Absolutely! Even with today's 550 based RTR's we can see, hear and feel a difference after eliminating the bullet connectors completely. My first "MOD" for every new car is to hardline the ESC straight into the motor!!
Are the tyres glued? Looks like there's a little lag on take-off. All I can think is those tyre pins are wearing down fast on that cement.. Need to get some dirt track.
Hey Glynn, have been waiting to see this type setup in action! Especially with the Top-Force. Now you do have me wondering how it will handle with a much lighter and higher performing battery. As always cant wait to see the up coming GPS speed test video's covering all the vintage brushed motors. Great job!
Really like how you sorted your TF. Glad you put modern electronics in as this buggy deserves to be run often. Can't wait to get one. That motor is perfect with it. Ride height should be arms parallel to the ground when dropped from a foot high. Sweet video Glenn! Now run it with a lipo. 😃👊🤘🤘
Very Expensive though . May as well install an Average Brushless and a buy a Lipo , Have More run time and better power delivery. I Seen it Priced at £150. Not sure if that’s RRP or Right rip-off price .
TAMIYA Legends Oh by that I assume it’s (Disco). Have you Any idea of the Rpm and torque. I see the BZ is 26500 rpm which is not slow but not fast, but has a 500 what ever’s of torque , I shoved an 11X2 supposed 39000 rpm in a Lunchbox but it can’t max out, no Torque. So I’m guessing the BZ may not a be a bad choice if it can max out . Under load
TAMIYA Legends It’s my Sons 😏 I’m afraid to trust him with a Lipo , so it’s Brushed for now, that sounds a pretty cool motor 👍, I may do the BZ and over volt it I start with an 8.4v
I put that motor in a blackfoot extreme with brushless sc and 2s lipo but it kept on flipping over and blowing its tyres off (even after glueing them on).........but it was soooo much fun😄👍
Glen, I think the Transpeed motors are all sensored brushless. But yes, they require a VERY expensive, very specific ESC to run them because the TBLE-02S (and 04S) will cut out due to no headroom for the current (02S is 60A; 04S is 65A). The whole Transpeed setup costs almost $500 from Tamiya USA! You can get a low turn Castle ESC and sensored brushless setup for about $150. That motor though sounds blisteringly quick! I wonder though just how long those brushes last given the high RPMs.
Just got this motor too, but it seems that it does not work with the speed controler that comes with Avante 2011, right? Which one are you using here, would it work on Avante too? Im a bit new to all this, and learning! Thank you for a great channel, keep up the good work! :-)
I now know which 540 I’m gonna buy for the holiday buggy when we upgrade it🤔😂😎 not having the hard punch off the line but having tons of mid and top end power will keep it from doing wheelies 😂
That's a savage motor , your right about the pinion it could do with a few teeth less (it took a while to wind up ) . That said it's great for top speed car park runs . Really looking forward to see a lipo run .
@@kasparov9 From what I can tell he's doing a hybrid , the v10 he has built requires a gearbox which is going to take another 6-8 months to build so he's rigged up some electrical motors for now , but he's talking about leaving them on after the v10 is finished . Can you believe he has developed ,designed and built that thing in his workshop with a lathe! !!! I'm really looking forward to seeing it he is a magician. Glad you liked it matey .
Funny you mention lathe I'm after a small rc motor lathe to skim the comme on a motor that I think Ive burnt a bit a few days ago. Its relalatively new and I think Ive stuffed something after watching timing change on these video.😐
I never got to try them but they always looked the coolest in the Tower Hobbies catalog. I remember my brother telling me about a fast one - maybe 240? "It'll go 60 mph but your battery will last 3 minutes!!!"
Do you skim your motors, I use to run these motors back in the day and would run a 16tooth indoors on carpet and maybe a tooth or two more outside on tarmac. if you get them this hot they burn the coms and brushes and never rev properly again... I always run my motors in on half voltage for a few mins to polish the com and get the brushes to have good area contact to avoid spike damage they also last longer between tunes... I also file the front and rear edge off the face of the brush less over lap means more revs
TAMIYA Legends I would love to tune and set up a couple of motor for you I’ve still got a few sets of unused soft brushes. Let me know if you’re interested would only cost you the postage
Great video. So how quick is it compared to the Dynatech 02h with a 10 turn rotor? Now I need one of these! And I'm regretting not getting one when there were plenty around. If anyone has this nib I'll purchase it off you if you want to sell thanks. :)
kasparov9 Tbh they are about the same on the videos I did, but the super modified was running a 21t pinion, it would smoke the Dynatech 10t using the same 17t pinion 🚗💨💨
STEVO D 313 It’s a Hell of a Brushed Motor Steve, as you said on a Nimh it goes well, got a Hotter competition Brushed Motor coming that I’ll stick a Lipo on, that should be interesting 😬😬😬
Ervin Strouse I like using the sport tuned on 2s Lipo, it’s fast enough for what I do, but you can still get some crazy wind brushed motors on eBay 🚗💨💨
Is there any way you can send me some links what I should get The cars Mo4 for chessie some the motors won't fit I don't know very much about these chassees
@@TAMIYALegends , you're right! I had never heard of these motors. There is a 49347 Transpeed MS which is 9T and 49386 Transpeed MS which is 10T. According to Tamiyabase these are both made by Orion.
@@TAMIYALegends, I've heard of that one. Something like $370 if I remember right. It would cool if you could review one and explain if it is actually special enough to warrant that price. The cheap Hobbywing 1060 can go down to 12 turn with 7.4V.
Lot's of acceleration! Nice! Such a cool brushed motor.
... and yeah, dropping down in pinion would make it ridiculous accelerating :-)
If you still have the motor it would be cool to see it done with a lipo and a gps for speed . That motor is brutal.
Use some decent motor to esc connectors will help with smoother current draw as those ones are awful
Absolutely! Even with today's 550 based RTR's we can see, hear and feel a difference after eliminating the bullet connectors completely. My first "MOD" for every new car is to hardline the ESC straight into the motor!!
i just bought another O2H to drive in one of my top force's. The other will be on display on my only original evolution, never driven, never will.
Who said you need brushless to go fast!
David Jenkins
Absolutely buddy 👊🏻
No need for brushless when brushed is this fast!!
Though going 104km/h with my Traxxas Rustler was fun!
Are the tyres glued? Looks like there's a little lag on take-off. All I can think is those tyre pins are wearing down fast on that cement.. Need to get some dirt track.
l got rustler VLX is just as fast if not slower even than what l see IMPRESSIVE
Just come across your video and would like to know where you can buy the motor and esc from cheers keep up the good vids.
Great looking buggy. Tamiya always created the best looking rigs imo
Buying ASAP! Putting this in my lunch box
Hey Glynn, have been waiting to see this type setup in action! Especially with the Top-Force. Now you do have me wondering how it will handle with a much lighter and higher performing battery. As always cant wait to see the up coming GPS speed test video's covering all the vintage brushed motors. Great job!
You should run this on 8.4 volt to really see that motor rev..
Really like how you sorted your TF. Glad you put modern electronics in as this buggy deserves to be run often. Can't wait to get one. That motor is perfect with it. Ride height should be arms parallel to the ground when dropped from a foot high. Sweet video Glenn! Now run it with a lipo. 😃👊🤘🤘
Theibault
Yeah I think you’re right about the drop test buddy, I’ve got some new shocks coming for it, so I’ll set it up properly when they arrive 😎👊🏻
Very Expensive though .
May as well install an Average Brushless and a buy a Lipo , Have More run time and better power delivery.
I Seen it Priced at £150.
Not sure if that’s RRP or Right rip-off price .
nasty nick
Yeah there getting harder to find now for a good price 😞
TAMIYA Legends
Oh by that I assume it’s (Disco).
Have you Any idea of the Rpm and torque. I see the BZ is 26500 rpm which is not slow but not fast, but has a 500 what ever’s of torque , I shoved an 11X2 supposed 39000 rpm in a Lunchbox but it can’t max out, no Torque. So I’m guessing the BZ may not a be a bad choice if it can max out . Under load
nasty nick
I think it was 38k rpm and 300 torque from memory. But I cranked the timing up on it 😂👊🏻
TAMIYA Legends
It’s my Sons 😏 I’m afraid to trust him with a Lipo , so it’s Brushed for now, that sounds a pretty cool motor 👍,
I may do the BZ and over volt it I start with an 8.4v
TAMIYA Legends
Thanks for your input
Quicker than a Tesla model 3 😄👍
Are those motors better then the D3 Please let me know thank you
Fantastic video Glenn, that motor is great...nice job buddy 👍
I put that motor in a blackfoot extreme with brushless sc and 2s lipo but it kept on flipping over and blowing its tyres off (even after glueing them on).........but it was soooo much fun😄👍
Phil Moffett
Haha I bet that was pretty insane in that truck 🚗💨💨
Thanks for watching buddy 😊👊🏻
Glen, I think the Transpeed motors are all sensored brushless. But yes, they require a VERY expensive, very specific ESC to run them because the TBLE-02S (and 04S) will cut out due to no headroom for the current (02S is 60A; 04S is 65A). The whole Transpeed setup costs almost $500 from Tamiya USA! You can get a low turn Castle ESC and sensored brushless setup for about $150.
That motor though sounds blisteringly quick! I wonder though just how long those brushes last given the high RPMs.
Do you have a link to the esc you have used
The D twos and the D threes were the best for high power modified motors look him up
Brushed Power thanks Tamiya. I Have a 8x1 Turn Brushed in my Touring Car.
Speed Freak oh I bet that goes a bit 🚗💨💨
Thanks for watching buddy 👊🏻
Just got this motor too, but it seems that it does not work with the speed controler that comes with Avante 2011, right? Which one are you using here, would it work on Avante too? Im a bit new to all this, and learning! Thank you for a great channel, keep up the good work! :-)
21 is way to big 17 0r 19 at most , great buggy though , always liked the Top Force .........
I now know which 540 I’m gonna buy for the holiday buggy when we upgrade it🤔😂😎 not having the hard punch off the line but having tons of mid and top end power will keep it from doing wheelies 😂
Excellent 😅👊🏻
Good luck finding one lol
Wow that's quick enough, great,😀
bluesimon13ify
Thanks for watching buddy 😊👊🏻
I used to have a Top Force in the 90's.......Great Vid Thanks!!!
Superb kit, I have the same, but I still seek that motorization put him to have a good report power and autonomy
Very nice motor big thumbs up my friend XD😁👍
Which pinion and spur did you instal??
samuel yon
I believe I was using the 17t pinion on this run 🤔
That's a savage motor , your right about the pinion it could do with a few teeth less (it took a while to wind up ) . That said it's great for top speed car park runs . Really looking forward to see a lipo run .
I saw that link that you provided just now, that's nuts a supercharger! Thing looks like a beast, I wonder how will it go?
@@kasparov9 From what I can tell he's doing a hybrid , the v10 he has built requires a gearbox which is going to take another 6-8 months to build so he's rigged up some electrical motors for now , but he's talking about leaving them on after the v10 is finished . Can you believe he has developed ,designed and built that thing in his workshop with a lathe! !!! I'm really looking forward to seeing it he is a magician. Glad you liked it matey .
Funny you mention lathe I'm after a small rc motor lathe to skim the comme on a motor that I think Ive burnt a bit a few days ago.
Its relalatively new and I think Ive stuffed something after watching timing change on these video.😐
Can't wait to see that thing go!
@@kasparov9 Hudy do a mini lathe for motors etc , it's about £ 130 . How's your build coming on ?
test the old school kyosho le mans super motors from the 80's... my faves :D
chloe devereaux
Yes 😍👊🏻
@@TAMIYALegends sweet :D
I never got to try them but they always looked the coolest in the Tower Hobbies catalog. I remember my brother telling me about a fast one - maybe 240? "It'll go 60 mph but your battery will last 3 minutes!!!"
hi could you recomend a good brushless motor and esc combo for a tamiya dark impact df03 as an upgrade from stock.
nunchuckerz the eBay 9t 4370kv motors are good there £28 including esc , that’s what I use in mine
is an Atomik Fireball any good?
That goes quite nicely! 😎👍
Do you skim your motors, I use to run these motors back in the day and would run a 16tooth indoors on carpet and maybe a tooth or two more outside on tarmac. if you get them this hot they burn the coms and brushes and never rev properly again... I always run my motors in on half voltage for a few mins to polish the com and get the brushes to have good area contact to avoid spike damage they also last longer between tunes... I also file the front and rear edge off the face of the brush less over lap means more revs
Neil Fastfreddie Anderson
No I’ve never owned a comm lathe Neil, always got the model shop to skim them for me 👊🏻
TAMIYA Legends I would love to tune and set up a couple of motor for you I’ve still got a few sets of unused soft brushes. Let me know if you’re interested would only cost you the postage
Neil Fastfreddie Anderson
So how would that work Neil, I send you a motor, you tune it and send it back to me buddy?
TAMIYA Legends yes I have a dyno as well so I can tune the best speed to current draw send me your 11 double I’ll takes some pics of the process
Neil Fastfreddie Anderson
Where you based Neil?
#tireslayer ;p
What esc did you use thanks
Great video. So how quick is it compared to the Dynatech 02h with a 10 turn rotor?
Now I need one of these! And I'm regretting not getting one when there were plenty around.
If anyone has this nib I'll purchase it off you if you want to sell thanks. :)
kasparov9
Tbh they are about the same on the videos I did, but the super modified was running a 21t pinion, it would smoke the Dynatech 10t using the same 17t pinion 🚗💨💨
wow that's sounds great! @@TAMIYALegends
@@TAMIYALegends Ok I just bought a nib super modified so will test it out on my supershot, can't wait.
Wow, I just bought a second hand DT-02. Listing said it has a tuned motor in it. I pulled it out and it's one of these!
Thomas Pai
Wow 😊
That’s awesome, this is a great motor 😎👊🏻
@@TAMIYALegends Yeah! Can't wait to try it out.
Nice, can you try with a Lipo battery please?
andrew mccluskey
Hi,
Yes it’s in future videos buddy 👊🏻
Awesome buggy
I have that 11T motor. Still have not run in yet.
Yusman Jamil
You’ll love it when you eventually run it my friend 🚗💨💨
Thanks for watching 👊🏻
just found one of these motors in a pilot Cosworth escort I have
Andy Smith
These are great motors buddy, plenty of rpm 🚗💨💨
Check it out when I fitted it to the Lunchbox 😂👊🏻
Thats one fancy motor
Its moving great on that nimh pack
STEVO D 313
It’s a Hell of a Brushed Motor Steve, as you said on a Nimh it goes well, got a Hotter competition Brushed Motor coming that I’ll stick a Lipo on, that should be interesting 😬😬😬
@@TAMIYALegends That Reedy was insane.😀😀😀
Do you need to get a bearing kit for the Top Force or does it come with bearings?
MrDanno19
My kit came with bearings, an absolute must for this buggy 😎👊🏻
Cool! Since I’ve watched this video I’m dying to get a TF and do it up right!
I found one and it's in my possession. Cool Vid 👍👍👍👍
Luis L.P. RC's
Excellent, looking forward to seeing it running 🚗💨💨
@@TAMIYALegends Your first video you made on this motor gave me luck. I found a Technigold and Super Modified on the same night on Ebay and new. 👍👍👍👍👍
Luis L.P. RC's
Sweet 🤓👊🏻
I love the old Tamiya Motors 😍👊🏻
What is the best gross motor for mo4
Ervin Strouse
It’s kinda up to you my friend, on how and where you run it 🚗💨💨
Is just at 5:40 brush motor I have brushless but this car can only handle a brushed motor
Ervin Strouse
I like using the sport tuned on 2s Lipo, it’s fast enough for what I do, but you can still get some crazy wind brushed motors on eBay 🚗💨💨
Is there any way you can send me some links what I should get The cars Mo4 for chessie some the motors won't fit I don't know very much about these chassees
Ervin Strouse
What’s stopping the motors you have from fitting into the car?
try a 550 motor in it should be the same speed but cheaper
try a Traxxas TRX3785 Titan 550 Motor 12T
it should fit most tamiya cars
Which esc did you use?
MrDanno19
It’s a New Rain 320A Brushed unlimited speedo that does both Nimh and Lipo 👊🏻
Thanks for the info! I think I need to build that exact setup. Never realized how beautiful the Top Force is.
One more question. Can the Tble 02 handle that motor?
MrDanno19
Oh no definitely not buddy, I believe that has a 23t limit
TAMIYA Legends good to know. Thanks for the info, it’s much appreciated!
The Transpeed motors are brushless so not really a fair comparison. 11T is the hottest Tamiya brushed motor.
TechnicBlakbird
Hi,
Tamiya actually did Transpeed in Brushed Motors first, there’s a 8&9t available but very rare now unfortunately 😞
@@TAMIYALegends , you're right! I had never heard of these motors. There is a 49347 Transpeed MS which is 9T and 49386 Transpeed MS which is 10T. According to Tamiyabase these are both made by Orion.
TechnicBlakbird
Tamiya actually made a stand alone speedo for them called Voltec, mega expensive lol 😂
Maybe get hold of one in the future 😬
@@TAMIYALegends, I've heard of that one. Something like $370 if I remember right. It would cool if you could review one and explain if it is actually special enough to warrant that price. The cheap Hobbywing 1060 can go down to 12 turn with 7.4V.
I was wrong, the Volac MS speed controller is actually $485.
www.tamiyausa.com/shop/tamiya-goods/rc-esc-hp-volac-ms-c3/none/