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Because smart TV's suck? I use a normal PC to run all my streaming.
You should review Minisforum mid-priced Mini-pcs like the UM780 XTX AMD Ryzen 7 7840HS
Just got got a Minis Forum UM790-Pro unit last week and there's no way I'm going to revert back to building a medium size tower PC as I've been doing for many, many years! Love these😀 Mini PC's!
Same. Waiting for mainstream to bandwagon on these just like how they did with the Steam Deck.
There's a place for a regular PC - I won't be playing many of my regular games on it, but for the home entertainment center is dead on. The 690S works great but I just want that extra power from the 780m and 5600MT memory for the living room and emulations - I think that some of my Wii games are just a little bit jittery at 1440p...the 780m should take care of that nicely 😁
The um790 Pro can run Fallout 4 medium quality at 4K @48 fps average, just fyi. No upscaling, and yes, performance dips under that but stays over 30. At 1440p it stays pegged at 60fps.
Did you check it for malware ? I saw that. A lot of them have malware on it
Same. Mounted on back of a ultrawide.
Mini PC's nowadays are capable enough to perform at a rate similar to powerful hardware of a few years ago, which, for the vast majority of people, is more than adequate for daily use, including 720p@high/1080p@medium gaming.
If it can hold at least 200 tabs on any given usage then I'll get it
The future is mini pc’s with discreet graphics. Mid to high end laptop parts in a small box without a screen display. Easier to cool than laptops.
sth like hx100g, but it's double as expensive as sth with an iGPU.
such a no brainer to sacrifice 4k for 1080p gaming, especially when tv's are upscaling anyways.
I replaced my 88 yr old mom’s 10+ yr old Dell tower with a low spec Trigkey about 18 months ago and it’s been great.
Thanks for that incredibly useful, life-changing information. 🤣
I've been thinking about just replacing my mother's All in One with an old monitor of mine with a mini PC. She just browses Facebook and UA-cam.
First thought you wrote a 88 year old computer :D
@@martinojep Uh oh, he outed himself as a time traveller 😂😂😂😂
Did you check it for malware ?
I use mini-PC's since I really discovered how NOISEY even regular Desktops are; I turned off a regular Dell desktop and was completely shocked how quiet the room was without it; I use one connected to a 50 inch TV; a couple in different rooms, and some for home lab machines/servers. The other defining trait is the lower power bill from using mini-PC's.
Will I ever buy another desktop or better yet build a regular PC; maybe, but by and large, day to day can be handled quite easily by a cheaper mini-PC for most normal tasks. I do use laptops for work, but by and large, I only use mini-PC's at the house for personal stuff.
Used an n100 to replace a desktop for my media pc. Runs plex, jellyfin, radarr, sonarr, 10TB of hard drives... At about 20 watts with two tv streams going at once.
I'm happy.
because they are powerful enough to run email word processing, web browsing, video streaming and light games, at an affordable price. we didn't have cheap mini pcs like this 10 years ago.
They're overrunning my house right this minute, that's for sure! Picked up a UM690S and then couldn't help myself and had to have a UM790Pro...living room and bedroom covered...
I feel you. I have 6 minis
Hi brads.. could you be selling one of them at a good price? I need one to upgrade my work laptop that I mainly use to design leathercraft stuff on illustrator and play last decade games but it's to slow.
Tech reviewers have been saying, "if you don't game or edit videos, this machine is good enough for everything" for most low-mid tier PCs for like 20 YEARS. It's not a particularly useful review because different games or video files demand different specs. They need to have some objective measures to do actual comparisons.
but if you just web browse and netflix you aint gaming and the n100 is enough for anyone rocking 1080p in general computing
@@ojmachine9545 Yeah sure or people could just get a 3 year old Thinkpad with a Ryzen chip from eBay for cheap with 3x performance
Yea or a 3yo Thinkpad
All I'm interested in is working and learning programming
@@TohTomajohsthen a mini pc may be all you need. My only gripe with them is the general lack of upgradability. Yeah, they're extremely less expensive than a custom route, but you're stuck with exactly what you've got. Then again, may be cheaper to just buy a new mini pc.
Did I just talk myself out of my stance? Shit.
I'm part of the mini PC crowd, recently picked up the GMKtec with the N100. I'm surprised how capable it is.
Me too,. I got the G3.
We ended up getting my mom one of these for all her casual browsing, replacing the tower she had and freeing up a bunch of desk space, it's just perfect for that.
Small desk footprint, low power consumption, but... power enough to do almost everything. Also early generations of these with i3/i5/i7 cpus or equivalent are on the refurb/2nd hand market and at reasonable prices. So basic gaming is within reach (I play a LOT of DayZ on mine despite NOT having a GPU).
Got a Firebat P8 Pro plus with n100, 16gb ddr5 ram and 512gb ssd. A Total gamechanger @ 6w-7watts, sold my 2 pi4s for profit and got rid of my old powerhungry pc from 2015. I can uses this mini pc in many different ways for years to come. And it was only £115. if the highend mini pcs get better graphics i will totally jump on board. will go amd next time probably.
I went with the 35W Blink Ser5 with AMD 5700U, because it can handle games just fine if you don't ask too much of it. You're not going to play at ultra settings 60fps on your 4k monitor, but 720p at medium or low settings and 30-60 fps is completely doable. I was playing Bioshock Infinite (I know, it's old, but still a good looking game) on 1080p with medium settings, no problem.
One way to look at the mini pc's in the $500 range is if they have a AMD chip with the 780 igpu you more or less have a steam deck so for some that might be more compelling. And lets not forget that Oculink port for upgrades.
is the Oculink for something like if you bought a mini pc for general computing but then decide you need a dedicated graphis cars it enables the upgrade?
@@utubeape I bought mine because of the Oculink. With that I have a full blown computer with a real GPU I bought a Minisfourm EliteMini UM780 XTX. I'm waiting to build my next high-end gaming PC with the next new AMD chips that drop at the end of this year. This is my gaming rig for now. I got this as a toy and found out it has way more bang for the buck I also got it and a few others because I'm getting rid of all my old win 10 stuff that can't be upgraded anymore. My plan is to toss a rx7900xt on it and have built my own eGPU dock. Another reason I went with Oculink is I have a highend monitor 49" 240hz and the 780m igpu isn't going to hang with that in gaming.
Steam deck uses a 680m, the mini PCs have a much faster GPU that like 32gigs of ram
I love my Lenovo Thinkcentre with i5, 200Gb drive and 8gb of memory, and CD drive it so good and works well and cost me £45.00 plus postage now my daily drive with Linux Mint.
Im surprised it's taken this long for mini pc's to hit the consumer market. A lot of companies have switched to micro PC's. As long as a user doesn't need to run anything super heavy, a micro pc works fine. They are cheaper than laptops and smaller than a tower. The company I used to work for started transitioning all their at home employees to micros.
Mini's cover all the bases for a lot of people who don't need a high end PC in a home or office environment and to be honest they aren't that far away from being able to replace low end gaming machines either. As long as you go with a good brand kind of a no brainer for a lot of people.
I always recommend the N95/N100 mini PCs to those that want to mostly Stream due to the AV1 decoding especially if your wanting to do it in 4K as well as basic IoT stuff. I also recommend them for emulation up to PSP (anything newer will need a Mini PC with a Radeon 680M). For Home Servers I agree those Ryzen 5000 series Mini PCs are a smart choice. I do know of one reason to have a expensive Mini PC, and that is in dorms I've seen some were they are mounted in their bunk beds (the dorms are the size of a prison cell). There are some you can get on Alliexpress with RTX4060s in them so they are great at gaming while still being smaller than a ITX build. Other than that I would just recommend a 4~5L ITX Build if you want a small PC.
Half of the general population just keep the same family PC for over a decade and a lot of these mini PCs are multiple generations FASTER than a 2013 desktop PC anyways --snip-- .. 8 watts under load instead of 200..
replacing a custom built gaming-rig every three years when only one single family member actually plays games is what's truly jank
You can't compare a mini-pc to a gaming rig, even a decade old gaming rig. If I try compare those 11th gen Celeron chips to something like the 4720 I have on a decade-old laptop then it's 30% slower then the laptop and you can buy such laptop from e-bay for 250-300 dollars. You also get a screen when you buy the laptop.
Yes, power consumption in the laptop is 60w average but the computer is not a significant part of the power bill. The AC is.
@shlomomarkman6374 if you leave it running all the time (possible with linux) it is something to take into consideration. Now the question is the hardware reliable to leave it on 24h for long periods??
@@shlomomarkman6374The problem with buying old laptops is the display quality. There are people obsessing about a decade old Thinkpads, but no one mentions that they always had terrible screens.
I am using the ser5 max as my main pc for now till my gaming pc is upgraded but for now its been great it sure can handle some good games too.
I've considered getting one to use as a Handbrake machine so it can quietly re-encode my Blu-Ray rips in the background without bogging down my desktop, but I'm an OCD fuck and can't decide what encoding settings I want to use anyway, so until I actually start running out of space on my NAS, I'm just sticking to the full fat rips lmao.
I am running a trio of Intel NUC's. 7th through 9th Gen between 32GB & 64GB of RAM & 1 to 2 TB drives in them.
I run Windows Server 2019 on 2 of them and the other is running Windows 11 Pro.
I like the fact they are easy to upgrade for memory and storage.
They are quiet and space efficient and sit on shelves taking no desk space at all.
I had a mini PC about three years ago, and it was no bigger than a tea coaster… crap memory, though only four gigs of ram with 64 gig, SSD. And you couldn’t upgrade it. It was okay bit slow though
Awesome video. I really admire that you are fair and honest about these systems. Keep up the great work. Fyi i have a Trigkey R7 5800H and i love it.
My new minisforum neptune HX99G is literally running brand new games in ultra at 60fps 1080p with 4k upscaling on tv, and it's actually loading shit several times faster than my skytech prism 2 that cost 5x as much. I honestly was not expecting this machine to blow me away and it was on sale on amazon with a 300 dollar discount.
You are the truth! Great information! I do have a question as I’m a rookie at PC’s. I’m only interested in emulation gaming some native gaming in future but primarily emulation. RPCS3 to be exact. Any Beelink can get 4K emulation? Perhaps 1440p?
Would you recommend the Ser6 or Ser7?
Or would something like a…..
Dell - G15 15.6" Gaming Laptop - AMD Ryzen 5 7640HS - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3050 - 16GB Memory - 1TB SSD - Dark Shadow Gray
The Dell is something that caught my eye at local Best Buy. Would love thoughts on this! Thank you! 👍
Depends on use case.
I had created a NAS with a Raspberry Pi4B, but got tired of issues with Raspberry OS, and other ARM issues. I bought a GMKtec Nucbox G3 to use debian12 amd64.
I shrunk the win 11 partition and installed debian12. I can't get debian12 to turn on Bluetooth, but I added a keyboard under win 11. The BIOS has too many settings related to Wi-Fi, and Bluetooth. But since win 11 worked, Bluetooth must be on in bios.
Perhaps debian12 doesn’t have a driver for it.
I tried lsusb and lspci, but couldn't find a bluetooth device listed. Solved by installing realtek-firmware or is it firmware-realtek. 8o)
I'm quite happy with my g3, even though it's only an N100, it was only $155 and is powerful enough for MY use case.
I’m connecting my SER 5 max to a 4070ti. I’m curious to see how it bottlenecks.
I got the Beelink SER5 just before christmas,i love this thing, i got it with the Ryzen 7 5800 H, it runs games fine and does everything i could want for under $400.
What type of games do you play
I play world of war planes, and nascar, thats mostly it for me,,but it plays them just fine
I game and work on my mini pc. I dont know what happened but they forgot to charge taxes for minis on Amazon in my country. It was soooo much cheaper to buy a ryzen 9 mini than a laptop. It plays 95% of games just fine.
Building your own pc is an art and joy to many, regardless.
Well said.
Two things continue to annoy me with mini PCs.
First, my lack of money.
Second, NONE of them make it easy to get to the part of the machine which has the fans/cooler so that you can easily clean the fan(s) and replace the thermal paste. NONE.
Otherwise, I am finding them very attractive as they are the closest to 80s home computers as we can get in 2024.
For 1 year and so i am now using my 2 mini PCs completely, i even forgot what are the specs of my laptops and Mac Mini and even my so old desktop PCs. I am planning to buy more mini PCs in future, one of my mini PCs i use it for astrophotography, the other one is Minisforum with Ryzen 9 5900HX and upgraded all the way to 64GB RAM and i think 2.5TB SSDs [1TB + 1TB +500GB].
I just love processors like amd strix point, sdxelite, and intel arrow lake.
I'm waiting for minis with the specific processors.
With high speed ddr5 8555hrz ram.
The minis doesn't always have to be 4x4 in size. 6x6 would be good as well.
(I can use it as a living room pc + i can carry it to anywhere where i can connect it to a monitor. I do have a portable monitor from asus ...)
i think they totally replace any notion of a budget... or perhaps even a medium build tower. the new ryzen8 igpus are very impressive according to testers already. not as powerful as discreet gpus... but they are at or surpassing budget discreet gpus
I have 4 of these in my home. They're great for Streaming services!
Because they’re really good, take up little space, and use relatively little power, produce little noise, and they’re less expensive than their larger counterparts. Basically, most of the same reasons laptops and tablets sell more than desktops. They’re not a good option for really high-end gaming, but for most tasks, they’re a great choice.
But ive always loved mini pcs, but im ahead of this, putting the possibilty of 4080 graphical power with topline amd 16core min. chips, crazy interesting small liquid cooled units for the chips. Its a fun puzzle.
Last year I got a Beelink SER5 Mini PC AMD Ryzen 5 5560U for my mother. Thing works like a charm and I installed Linux on the thing with next to no issues. It's got performance, upgrade options, even does gaming quite nicely for the more causal side of modern gaming and handles most anything you throw at it older. Best of all no crazy huge power draws and heat generation. I may actually switch to one of these after my desktop gets old enough and by then the newer versions of these will be even better.
I own the Beelink SER5 with a Ryzen 5 5560U / 16 / 512. This thing is extremely snappy with W11 and Ubuntu based distros. Really that’s amazing the amount of power / silence / efficiency you get from a tiny box at 290€ on Amazon! Not a chance I’m getting back to a full size desktop anymore. Just no way.
I have 2 low spec mini pcs they are a lot of fun. AMD dual core A9400. and another with Intel N5095 4 core both are 8GB ram.
I actually downsized to a NUC 11 Enthusiast. I love it and it games well. I use a NUC N100 for a plex server and another one for a NAS.
9:07 -- helpful info about AZW, the OEM.
Thank you 👍
These are great for the office!
I stopped building large PC cases 10 years ago. I play video games and I dont need max setting to have fun. I'm always on the go so the gaming laptop was more viable.
I have my big-a$$ gaming PC tower on the left of my desk, a Pi 5 underneath my arm-mounted monitor, a mini-PC at center, a Pi4 at the right side of it, and another mini-PC at the far right... all connected to a hub so that I can use just one monitor, keyboard, and mouse to control all these devices. I just have to press the KVM switch buttons. Mini-PCs has come a long way and are very powerful now. For my next gaming build, I'm definitely downsizing and will focus more on power efficiency. My current gaming PC draws too much power. The GPU alone draws 420w+ when playing AAA games (not even a 3DMark GPU stress test!). The CPU draws 80-100w+. Overall power draw is like 600-900w 'coz I have a lot of stuff connected to it. Idle is at 200w+ 🫤
I've got lost into all that text. No offense mate. But what switch or thing do you use to change from one pc to another without having to going back and plug and unplug the devices ?
@@Helios.vfx. It's a combination of my monitor that has a built-in kvm switch and a USB Switch 4 in 4 Out, USB Switcher Selector which controls my keyboard, mouse, cam, and gamepad.
@@xellaz Thanks mate! I'll look it up
You could build some Frankenstein PC from old parts that would preform better than a good mini-pc if you want to play the newest games, but it's not a tiny box you can take with you. You could take it on vacation or to a friends house and have your entire emulation and movie collection.
From about 900/1000 watts down to 60 to prototype some work and only then sending back to workstation. I think saving up energy pays it off lol.
I want to get a mini pc. I have monitor, keyboard and mouse. Is that all I need to have?
I bought a GMKtec NucBox G3 to use as a NAS. GMKtec doesn't support Linux, just Windows. I doubt I'll ever get a BIOS update. It appears to work fine under debian12.
The problem for me is that they are essentially unable to be upgraded, other than the ram and storage. I consider these when I occasionally think about upgrading or buying a new PC but always come to the conclusion that they are stuck with the CPU and graphics capability they have and would make for a bad investment if I want to upgrade down the line. I just upgraded my X470-chipset build(X470 being from 2018!!) to a Ryzen 7 5700X up from a 3700X. I don't think these mini PCs will have upgradability like this. If I wanted to, I could get a new graphics card. Can't do that with these mini PCs.
So far that's my thoughts as well as well as reading comments about "low end" this and that.
Sounds like if you want to do more than just check email and watch videos, you need more than a mini-PC.
@@VRNocturne that's why i think mini itx actually works great if you want power in a small package.
That’s the PC mindset coming out. You can’t upgrade PlayStations or Xbox’s either. They have a generational life of 5-10 years then you get another one. You can apply the same philosophy here.
What can these do that laptops couldn't 10 years ago tho
use about 1/10th of the power, run cooler and be next to silent. Oh and run Windows 11 securely.
Besides the cool and quiet, you can use a better monitor, better keyboard, better mouse, and usually more ports for connecting things.
How long has the Mac Mini been around again? This demand has been around for quite a long time. I had a Gigibyte Brix back in 2014. It ran hot, but it did the job.
I keep my Laptop docked to a 1440p Monitor along with a real Keyboard and Mouse by Corsair (also less wear and tear on the laptop). My laptop isn't at the same power level as my PC, but aside from DCS (a flight simulator) my laptop can do anything my PC can.
I like having these features- A built in screen (that I can fold down while using the 27" monitor, if I want) a built in UPS (battery life is so-so) and a built in keyboard/trackpad.
My Laptop is a Legion 5 from 2020 with an RTX2060. I only got it because I needed to replace a GTX 780ti, and the pricing on cards at the time, would have put me out, at least $1000 for a budget-grade performance boost, at best.
(edit) -If I could have found a Mobile R-7 4800H along with a Mobile 2060 in a small case, for less than my laptop, I would have.-
Should be- If I could find a mini PC with the mobile parts, equivalent to those in my Laptop, without the added price of a track pad, Keyboard, and Screen (a mini PC)- I would have taken that setup.
Aside from the so-so battery life, the only other negative is, when I stress the Laptop, the fans do get loud.
@@craigprocter1232 Windows 11 ugh. I had to uninstall and do a fresh install, back to Win10. The operating system that will remind you of the days with Vista.
I've been kind of spamming the usual suspect channels that kind of cater to the mini pc community, begging for some sort of consistency with reviews and benchmarks as well as comparisons - such as, when reviewing a new model, have a chart with previous reviews numbers ready to show where the review subject stands with regard to other items that have been reviewed. I mean, this isn't ETA PRIME here, just looking to hawk some affiliate link goods on whoever drops by, right?
God, ETA Prime was such a waste of time.
it's nice to have a minipc for Retro Emulation A good minipc i have a pc but a pc you can't bring at your friends and play retro games.
Has anyone used theese for audio production
A portable monitor would be a great addition to these mini pc
Great emulation boxes. Worth it for that alone.
Good enough for 98% of people out there and saving you up bucks in energy
Especially when some of them come with pre build malware
Whats the best one with a ryzen apu for havkintosh lol
Im so confused as to why they dont offer a slightly bigger one with like a RTX 3050 low profile in there, literally would be the perfect console replacement especially if they made it look gamerish
Good up on the malware info, Very important, regardless of mistakes. Sorry for them but....
If Android TVs have malware, i wonder how many of these have a worm? Any studies related to mini PCs and brands?
As an example, Beelink is said to have one (Reddit).
The number 1 reason for me is by far the price.
You can have a complete mini pc for the price of an itx motherboard.
I actually thought the video would explain this as it makes no sense to me right now.
I plan to get two minipc's, one for office and one for home as I don't like laptops. Synch both with the cloud. Done with work, just press power button and leave.
One thing I am concerned about with mini PCs is having enough USB ports and audio ins and outs and ideally an SD card reader.
I use my mini pc as mini gamecube
Will thise min pc with a egpu be good for gaming
Mine is 🤣I have a minisforum UM790 pro and I had a left over 650 watt PSU and a RX6900XT, bought an oculink board for £37 and an oculink adapter(£10) to replace one of the M.2 drives. The other M.2 is a 4 terabyte job. I have it set up so that for netflix or web browsing I just have the UM790 running and when I want to play a game I just restart but power on the PSU first. Its a little bit DIY messy, but is so close to my gaming rig in performance makes no difference. I wont be going back to a full tower again, although next year I might go ITX, but no hurry because what I have now is fine.
7950x set to 105w Eco mode in the inWin ChopIn .... ultimate productivity machine
What is the purpose of these mini PC's? I have a two year old laptop and don't have very good wi-fi signal. I can get one of these mini-PC's for free. But I'm not sure what benefit a mini-PC would do for me?
Would it boost my wi-fi signal? I'm using someone else's signal, so I don't know what it would do for me?
Its not very expensive to buy a wi fi booster that just plugs into a spare plug socket. And mini PC's have come on in leaps and bounds in just the last 12 months, It would make your laptop feel ancient. Read the latest reviews from about the last 4 to 6 months to get a feel for what they can do. Oh and avoid the cheapo ones if you intend to do any gaming!
Do these mini pcs come with windows and a legit windows key so i can reformat whenever i want and put a clean windoes install on there?
Not all. Be careful.
Often pre-installed with local account option giving me the impression they don't want the product number to register imo. Some bios are locked up pretty tight but you can wipe and install your own OS. I'd do that anyway- bloatware malware keyloggers they do come from various places . Known name brands would be choice for assurance but the lower cost ones are 50/50. Do research and reviews on any you choose
They look like fun little things.
And more addictive than crack 🤣, so be careful!
I envy you guys. I wanted to hug one of those and they're after all the payments and bs. About 1500 usd lol
Honestly some of these mini pcs are being used by creative professionals and have 32 gb of ram.
If Mac minis can be used for design and editing work I don’t see why mini pc’s with similar or better specs as them can’t also be used for the same things
If a mini pc can do what you want in a high end pc then why not? It also take less space in your table too.
I love my Minis
Me: watching this whole editing 4k video
for what most people use them for that's all you need
Mini pcs are everywhere because Stone Cold said so. Now give me a hell yea 🍻
Beelink SER5!
I need to get one so I can run a Discord bot on it.
They're only popular when Costco /sam's club sell them.
I still do not know why not pickup a used Mac Air. They are less than $300 and it comes complete. Now you have something that can do EVERYTHING a mini-pc that is also portable.
Used Mac Airs, at least those valued at $300, will likely be based on an outdated Intel chipset, which do not support the latest operating system. Also Windows based systems are more flexible. They run more software and are compatible with more external hardware.
@@colinstock325 If you do not mind the weight, you can still get a under $500 Windows laptop that gets the job done. It is still more portable and usable than a mini PC. If you buy a $1k laptop, now you have both a mini PC and a portable PC.
What colin just said🤣🤣😎😎
@@iamrocketray have you seen the specs for Win 11 support? Please. An outdated Mac air for under $100 with Catalina is much better.
yes the cheaper ones are the best
u have some mini pc over for me ?
Because firetv, firecubes, video thumb sticks like rokus, suck. Mini pcs are awesome.
Getting a steam deck was the gateway drug for me getting a mini PC, I've got another one(UM 780 XTX)coming this Friday 🤣🤣🤣🤣😎😎
@@iamrocketray that comes in some nice options. Easy to clean and maintain and replace parts even if needed. I stand by the mini pc race.
Beelink mini PCs are trash. The USB ports are on 100% of the time, even when shutdown. There's no way to disable this in BIOS - Beelink states it's required for Wake-on-LAN. This is the only mfg that has this problem.
There should be an option to disable WoL as well. Most PCs do. If you dont need WoL, then turning it off should disable the USB ports as well, unless of course, Beelink is lying and it's simply a engineering flaw.
Also, if you can't disable WoL, that also a flaw, since that means anyone with access to your network can potentially wake your PC.
Dude, if you are gonna have a segment of you waving your hand around in front of the camera, then turn off the autofocus.
To answer the videos' title questions Why are Mini PCs everywhere in 2024? Its because of 2 reasons. First is Inflation that should explain itself, with food prices going up our youtube machines have to be cheap! Secondly Intel needed a way to sale a ton of underpowered CPUs without looking like cheap junk compared to the competition to keep the Intel stock price up so Intel gets out of the NUC market so it can be flooded with other brands! Sadly, the $250 dollar Mini's are a good deal but if you want to spend more than $400 for a Mini PC an M2 Mac Mini is a far better deal to be honest.
Question is can it handle FL Studio?
Yes no problem! if you get a decent one with reasonable internal graphics.
@@iamrocketray SOLD
Because it's the start of pc form factor evolution, 3-5 years from now all big and heavy desktop chasis will be replaced by mini pc.
Shitty way, hopefully not going to happen
Probably more-so when Thunderbolt & USB4 is standard equipment on these mini systems and external GPU’s are considered standard equipment overall.
Agreed, ITX will be considered large Form Factor. Anything bigger will be obsolete.
Can you build your own mini pc
Mini-PC's aren't really a DIY thing, with the exception of buying one barebones ( without memory or storage ); everything else tends to be proprietary. You could technically buy an X86/X64 Single Board Computer, 3-D print a case, and have a DIY build. With any mini-PC, in the end, you have a relatively quiet, low cost, power efficient computer.. The main reason I use MINI-PC's is not just the size, but the quiet !!! Reality is- other than USB /Video/LAN connectivity, there's very little possible configuration in most mini-PC's; but that is never what it was about in the first place; it was about cheap, low priced, quiet desktop replacement .. Most Single Board Computers ( versions not a pre-built mini-pc ) will usually cost more than a prebuilt; so why even bother ? In every mini-PC that I've seen or bought, the port layout, and case configuration are unique; so not really a DIY beyond changing out memory /storage options as that is about it. Sure you can graft an external GPU onto the mini-pc, but why not build a full sized PC at that point ? It just makes little sense for cobbling together a mini-pc with an external GPU, other than to brag that "I did it" ..
There are also ARM based processors to consider; DIY to a degree, like the Raspberry PI or Orange PI; but in the end, most "mini-PC's" are about cheap, efficient low power PC's that serve as daily drivers for browsing the web or light office work. Some will utilize mini-PC's as a home lab server; a different topic.
@@MrPir84free wow thanks 🫂
If you just need to go online and do some productivity, why would you need an x86 system at all? You an go online and even cast to a monitor, from any mobile device you already own. However, if you're trying to any low end gaming, those AMD Ryzen 7 units are not that bad. SERIOUSLY low end gaming. SEriously seriously LOW END GAMING.
@BePatient888 Tell that to my UM790 pro, it plays everything at 50 FPS plus(yes even cyberpunk and Starfield)
they are fantastic and cheap
When a mini PC has fast boot up time, quick response and plays in 4K, it can make a big old desktop look like crap. I have one that does everything I need and its speed blows away my desktop and my laptop. It even outputs in Dolby Atmos. The American companies are very slow to adapt because they refuse to lower their prices. It sort of like when Japanese cars took over in the nineteen eighties. People need to learn history and pay attention to it.
This is a worrying evolution, but it doesn't surprise me since most people have no technical background.
These small boxes get super hot compared to their well ventilated larger siblings. What that means for your SSD is that you compromise data integrity. If you make plenty of backups on external media this might not be the end of the world, but most people don't, so they end up losing valuable data. In a mini pc the SSD is usually the first component that fails, sometimes as early as 6 months. And then there's Chinese spyware which comes pre-configured via hardware. The Chinese Communist Party is watching you !
ETA Prime
They suck for gaming BUT if you do not game online they are just fine.
Cheap ones suck for gaming(intel ones), but the better ones on 780m graphics can play any game you can throw at them!
For $500 I'd better get real PC....