When Goebbels Signed Germany's Suicide Pact - WW2 Special
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- Outnumbered, outgunned, and outproduced by the Allies, the noose seems to be tightening slowly but surely around the Third Reich. For Joseph Goebbels, salvation lies in a radical transformation of the economy and society - Total War. But first, he must sell it to the German people.
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When learning about Goebbels, the methodology of his lies and tricks are uncomfortably familiar. Many people around the world have received information with the same sinister twist from all sorts of newspapers, radio, television, and even UA-cam channels. While in its infancy, it can be difficult to grasp where this can lead to. That's why we make these videos, so that future generations can learn the destination of the road that the many Goebbels try to place us on.
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A perfect example is the US. The truth is a lie and the lie is the truth.
Very interesting, in todays France the government and the right have come up with the term "Islamo-gauchiste" islam-leftism, it's the new judeo-bolchevism, we are in dark, dark times
@@samdumaquis2033 way to compare things that are totally different
I just went back and looked at sparty in ep 1 of wah. it's really taking a toll on sparty's beard. I hope he's alright
@@rodgerjohnson3375 And which 51% of the population has bought into this cavalcade of deception, and which 49% are clear-eyed and rational?
Late in the war when it was clear to most that Germany was not going to win & the skies above German cities had become thick with Allied bombers, this speech gave rise to a whisper joke that was often repeated in the Ruhr..
"Dear Tommy, fly further
. We're all mine-workers here.
Fly further to Berlin
. There they've all screamed yes!"
'We must get the USAAF to wade in with greater force ... We can wreck Berlin from end to end if the USAAF will come in on it. It will cost between us 400-500 aircraft. It will cost Germany the war.' - Sir Arthur Harris, in a letter to Churchill, 3 November 1943
BBC Fact File : Big Week 20 to 25 February 1944 on line
@@nickdanger3802 It's impressive how the western Allies had already prouced a massive war effort and lethal damage to the Axis even before landing on the ground.
@@dusk6159 not really. WWII is the war that shows us the limits of strategic bombing. Its imprecise and its morale effect minimal. The resources spent on thousand bomber raids was largely worthless because it outstripped the actual infrastructural damage dealt. Had the allies focused their air force on close air support and raiding supply lines be attacking trains and supply depots, it would have been far more effective. The last war where large scale strategic bombing was attempted is Vietnam, and it failed there too. Nowadays its accepted that outside of using smart munitions to efficiently eliminate high priority targets, air forces should only provide close air support for ground forces.
@@volodymyrboitchouk There is no ground support to be doing on a non existent invading army a continent away.
Strategic bombing and similar means as a whole literally crippled and immobilized Germany + took out millions of soldiers and resources from the front, usually by the mere effect of having to stand guard from the US and UK/Commonwealth operations.
@@dusk6159 the evidence is against you there, friens. Even during the war it was admitted that the strategic bombing campaign was having minimal effect on Germany. I'm prety sure it was even discussed on this channel in the past. Top airforce officials in the US admitted that, far from weakening the German resolve and.puling forces away from other fronts, air raids were stiffening German resolve or had no effects at all.
Another interesting thing to note is that the USSR never engaged in serious strategic moving, even when it had the chance. If strategic bombing was so effective, then why didnt the Soviets use it? The US had vast resources to throw around and strategic bombing was implemented to give the airforce something to do.
When hearing Goebbels talking about a Scottish by-election, I wonder if anyone in the audience thought, "Good God! They are still having elections over there?"
Also when he said there was a single communist in Parliament I was pretty impressed. The election system is so broken here in the UK that a communist getting elected today is inconceivable
@@tomwh1993 Well, that's a good thing.
@@Darwinek well no its clearly not whatever your political ideology is. There's certainly enough communists in the UK to deserve at least a seat in Parliament. Its next to impossible for minor parties to get representation in Parliament, it's a broken and outdated system
@@tomwh1993 After the 1945 Labour landslide, the CPGB had for a short time, three MP's, mainly in the East End of London.
They didn't last for a number of reasons, the massive social reforms enacted by the Attlee government including most famously the NHS, which rather took away much of the appeal of Communists.
Attlee himself had no time for Communists, as his Foreign Secretary Ernie Bevin told their conference (he was the major player in the diplomatic effort to persuade the US to do something very foreign to them going back to independence, being part of an alliance for security that was binding, which became NATO), 'there has never been a dictator who talked of peace but prepared for war, you just remember that'. In other words, Stalin is little better than the recently defeated Nazis (after all, Hitler and Stalin agreed in 1939 to both invade Poland and as time went on his mass murdering became clearer).
Bevin was just reminding any fellow travellers on the left of the party that 'Uncle Joe' wasn't so cuddly, or as Stalin called those in the West who had ignored or just pretended not to see things like the deliberate famines and the gulags, 'useful idiots'.
The CPGB membership in the UK peaked not long after the Nazi invasion of the USSR and the supplies the UK and later US gave Russia, previously the CPGB had opposed the fight against Hitler, calling it a 'capitalist war'.
MI5 bugging of the CPGB's modest London HQ revealed post war, a declining party almost wholly reliant on small donations from the USSR, it also revealed the USSR were not getting anything much from them.
The real split in the CPGB came in the 1956 brutal suppression of Hungary by the Soviets, some trying to somehow justify it, the rest just leaving the party.
Not in *that* crowd 😏
Incidentally, the Scottish idea of "The Common Weal' " far precedes Communism, and is something I am proud of. You need to look after your fellow man when the winters are harsh. 💛
One of the best Chapters of this Series in my opinion, once again thanks for all.
@guillermo sobernes speare We're very glad to have you with us, thanks for watching
This is what I was looking for! Thank you for covering this speech Sparty! A very important speech at the time to gauge the feeling of the German people on the home front and how things were about to change.
@Jay Jayson Thanks for watching!
Really good episode, Spartacus. I like how you've emphasised the ways in which politicians manufacture and propagandise perceived threats.
Want to add a small correction. During a war with Frederick the Great Peter wasn't a tzar. If I remember correctly he was a fan of Frederick and when he BECAME a tzar he immediately sued for peace and offered to become Frederick's ally. So Peter didn't fight Prussia at all.
Yes, Peter was a "germanophile" and could barely speak russian, as he was Prussian born. When Empress Elizabeth died and he became the Tzar he immediately withdrew Russia from the war.
"Be careful what one wishes for", I guess
Great work as always Spartacus, but this time i didn't cry! Greetings from France I was happy to hear you considered yourself a french.
Very sobering to see how desperate people can be led down an unspeakably dark path. Absolutely engrossing and terrifying presentation. Great work.
Thanks!
"I ask you, do you want pancakes ? If necessary, do you want a pancake more total and radical than anything we can imagine today ?"
Joseph goebbels' order at Denny's
Lmao underrated
Do you guys think Erich Ludendorff's post-WWI writings, particularly "Der Totale Krieg", influenced the Hitler and Goebbels' decision in 1943 to pursue a total war instead of seeking a political solution?
@Keith Lucas I implore you to ask this on the TimeGhost.tv forums because it's a great question, and I'd love to see the answer to it myself. That's the place to submit questions that Indy or Sparty can respond to in Out of the Foxholes episodes. Thanks for watching!
@@WorldWarTwo Done.
The presentation on this channel is so excellent thank you so much for such a good public resource
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I've noticed that your 'doom clock' is set for 3 to 12. That's quite accurate to be honest. Well done 👏.
Enjoyed this thanks lot's
Another great production! Thanks for all you do
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A true Master Class on fake news, spin and propaganda and I was constantly reflecting on recent political announcements from the last couple of decades to current.
(Spoilers😅)This speech was probably in the minds of the script writer of the movie, Downfall, during the scene when Goebbels replied to Mohnke saying that his conscripts cannot defend Berlin.
Sparty, I sincerely hope, one day you and the gang will travel to Budapest to do maybe a more extensive special on Carl Lutz, Raoul Wallenberg, etc. I would really love to help you out here wherever I can 🤗
Another topic: I would like to share with you a poem by Hungarian poet Miklós Radnóti (spelled Miklosch Radnoti), who was a key witness of the Holocaust, being himself a Jew. He was drafted into forced labor several times. His third he did not survive - he was shot, when he was too weak of hunger to continue the forced march.
My personal favorite poem of his is actually titled "Forced March" ("Erőltetett menet"). I could find the official English translation:
"Crazy, who, from collapsing, gets up for new advance,
and moves in stumbling torture the limbs to get his chance,
and still is heading forward as if with wings he'd fly,
in vain the trench is calling, he does not dare to die.
He'd answer to your question, what for this strain's to stand,
that there's a dear wife waiting, and perhaps a wiser end.
Yet this good guy's quite crazy, through his old home behind
since long the winds are blowing, from blaze and ashes blind.
The back wall fell to pieces, the plum tree's broken down,
and gotten rough from scaring those nights so sweet at home.
Oh, couldn't I believe yet - not kept in heart alone -
that there is still a homeland, so dear for me to roam;
if there were still the old porch, and sitting in the sun,
and peaceful bees were humming while cools the jelly plum,
the ending summer dozing o'er the garden's dreamy flair,
and midst green foliage swaying the fruit so firm and bare,
and Fanni stands there waiting, blonde, the hawthorn hedge aside,
and shadows written slowly by a slow late morning's light. -
Could all this still come true yet! The moon's so round today!
Don't stride ahead, my comrade, shout at me - I can't stay!"
I hope you consider looking into his biography a little and leveraging his works to give back some of the mood of the time back then through his eyes/thoughts.
Dear Dora, I am indeed planning to do that, but what with D-Day prep being in full swing I haven't yet been able to get down to formulating any details. It will probably be for publishing in October 1944 (2023) so we would go to Budapest in the summer of 23. I would definitely appreciate your help once we start planning and executing that.
@@spartacus-olsson sounds awsome! You know where to find me 🙂
And I love that poem, thank you - I will read more. I already picked up an annotated folio of his genocide themed poems.
“Do you want total war?”
“Yes”
Germany was doomed
"[...] the goal is to end german aggression" That's not quite right, after all it was unconditional surrender or nothing. Not that such a surrender would come with the extermination of germans, but it's much more than just stopping german aggression.
There something not quite right with your argument- a lot of things actually. A) it wasn’t unconditional surrender in the beginning. B) unconditional surrender is not the same as being wiped off the map. C) the reason they demanded unconditional surrender was that they would be the guaranteed end to aggression. We can go on…
Again a great episode keep up the great work to bring history to the masses
@Austin Grezenski Thank you for watching
Baffling that the Nazis were so incompetent when it came to getting to a war footing with competing interests (unlike say Britain which mobilised a war economy swiftly) yet they were cruel and methodical in the war against humanity in the camps and 'efficient' extermination of so called undesirables like Jews, gypsies, Slavs, disabled people etc.
Horrific juxtaposition.
On another note, Goebells surely must be one of the strongest orators in modern history. The man surely knew how to whip up a crowd into a frenzy with rhetoric. However self destructive, intellectually corrupt and dishonest his speeches were. He knew how toto portray wild enthusiasm of his speech by his audience to the wider public listening on the radio who would get hooked line and sinker...
The Axis powers in general bet all their chips on a quick war over their opponents. Once they lost that bet, they had lost the entire game.
There is a very easy reason to why germany actually throughout the war never 100% went for a total war economy (yes even in 1945 it wasnt a total war economy like the soviets for example despite the situation): WW1 and the revolution
The nazis feared that any hardship on the people at home would loead to a repeat of 1918/1919. Germany had a total war economy during WW1 and it ended in the country collapsing (which the nazis saw as one of the greatest desasters in german history).
Hitler didnt want to be dragged out of his palace by the starving masses...
There were food shortages and other society breakdowns at home that caused German civilians to lose support for WW1. I’m guessing the Nazis we’re trying to keep the home life as normal as possible, and combined with war victories on foreign soil would keep the war (and thus the Nazis) popular with the German people.
I do very much appreciate your presentation everytime I watch. I have a question: I'm having trouble discerning when did the Allies unequivocally know of the Holocaust? At 0:50-0:55, you spoke of, "...recent Allied propaganda campaign focusing on the genocide of the Jews". I have heard that Churchill gave a speech sometime before D-Day, I think I have heard as early as El Alamein battles, telling the world about the Holocaust after an Ultra intercept. Escapees spoke of the hell and the genocide, but they weren't believed. It is often portrayed that the be Western Allies didn't know anything until they came across camps while on recon.
Could help clarify this for me? If you have already made an episode that I have overlooked or missed, my apologies.
Thank you, very very much for all of your work
P.S. I recently watched a video of a young Black Man in America tell a story of being harassed by the police for no reason, and he was wearing attire from a football club in England(I researched it. Wanted to know who is selling these and why is a younger generation wearing them), that was an SA Brown shirt, red band included. No Swastika. It was sad that the juxtaposition was missed by most everyone in the video, the comments, and indeed, UA-cam.
I apologize for wandering thought. Thank you again for making sure that more people Never Forget.
The YN Allies knew the details of the Holocaust as it developed. They didn’t have the exact death tolls right, but knew it was in the millions. They found out in a multitude of ways from 1942 and onwards. Spartacus has covered this in extreme detail in the War Against Humanity episodes.
"Austrian Emperor? It should be Austrian Empress Maria Theresa
The idea of a total war was an idea that came from the German Army s post war analyses after ww1. 1920.
How can one forget when one sees it happening again.
Perhaps change your motto of:
_Never Forget_ to: _DO SOMETHING!_
Total war? What have the British (and its Empire) been doing since 1939; the Russians since 1941; the Americans since 1942? Germans came to that idea late.
19:10 why do I hear Frolic playing right now
Goebbels himself gave the right comment of his notorious Sportpalast-Speech in his diary: “This was the day of imbecility! They would have jumped out of the fourth floor of the Columbia-House if I would have ordered it.“
Well, they got exactly what they asked for (and after it they complained…).
Best episode
@Chris Stewart Thanks for watching!
How did the allied react to this speech?
Too late for going into war economy
So they’re gonna play this one out huh?
Great video
Thanks!
There should have been an Indy warning
''Hitler has been largely immune from criticism''
Sounds an awful lot like a certain war mongering madman making headlines right now. I wonder how long it will last.
Putin’s army is nothing like the German Wehrmacht. If it were, we’d have been in all out war (ww3) many months ago.
NEVER. FORGET.
I won’t. Certainly not for a long time.
Although you've obviously had training in German, your accent shows a little.
If you want to improve, hit me up.
Nonetheless, great video, and thank you very much for informing all of us.
edit: although he definitely said that, I feel it deminishes your video by showing goebbels not showing what the video says.
It seems the nazi theses are the ones that were in "the protocols of the elders of Zion". It was published in 1902-1903 but was it the ones that went into Goebbels and Hitler?
Otherwise, your thesis that Peter was Peter stopped the war because there were too many wars is quite not standard.
Generally, it is thought that Peter was a big fan of Frederick the Great. Frederick offered Eastern Prussia to Russia to end the war, but Peter wanted only a medal. This saved Frederick who otherwise would have lost everything.
In a sense, this attitude of holding off as much as possible makes sense considering that Frederick was saved at the last minute. When Roosevelt died before the end of the war, the Nazis hoped that his successor would change sides. This did not happen, fortunately, but here was their hope.
At this point of the war, it was clear to the Nazis that they would lose. But Peter having saved Frederick the Great at the last minute makes this crazy attitude actually look reasonable.
Good name for the next COD game. Not such a good name for your future foreign policy.
sad to say i like his speeches
Bruh, there should be a link to an original video
the italian war industry will outproduce the allies easily
Messes counter attack will put things in order :p
Luxembourg will also outproduce the axis
Ahhh… The heady days of denial and eternal optimism, so sweet, so short…
Sure thing
Hope they make a video on that. We've seen German and Japanese but not them
I'm commenting in aid of the channel... but truly, despite deeply being familiar with the history, your presentation has left me struggling to find appropriate words. Well done.
@The Black Bear We appreciate you watching and your support. The subject matter is never easy, but it is important to remember these relatively recent, and horrific events. Thank you and please stay tuned as we continue exploring all the dark corners of this war
@@WorldWarTwo thanks for your response. I believe that your work is both important and extremely well done.
@@theblackbear211 Europe, especially its population, had It rough for two separate centuries with the birth of the concept and practice of total war by Napoleon and then, especially, later with the nazis.
But just think about the lessons, evolution and peace that got put in practice after it, though simultaneously one still feels sorry for the state of the third world, for example.
Regular occurrence here.... One of the great history channels on all of UA-cam.
@@SeveredLegs Agreed.
In an alternate universe:
“Do you want a total war?!”
“No!”
“I understand, have a nice day”
Reality: Oh i can't hear you! Nevermind! Here have one Total War schnapps!
Imagine if they gave a war, and nobody came...
@@BlackFlag1719 or the politicians had to go hand to hand, live on TV.
Victory and War (Sieg / Krieg) sound to a point pretty similar in German language. So it always sounds a bit like "do you want total victory" when Goebbels asks to you want total war.
NSDAP : Emotional damage
This was an excellent special focusing on fine details I never knew. Thanx TG Team!
@Andy Reznick Thanks very much for watching
I love Spartacus so much and his smooth, relaxed story teller voice; however, it still confuses the heck out of me when I don’t get smacked in the face with one of Indys hard hitting intros within a half second of clicking on a video. Love you all and thank you for everything you do to keep our history alive!
@LandonStevens Thanks so much for watching, please stay tuned for more of Indy's great intros every week, and Sparty's somber narration. Thanks for being a great audience!
@@WorldWarTwo there should be a special where Spartacus reads wartime jokes, and he smiles and laughs... I simply can't imagine him not being a grim narrator of terrible things.
7:08 The real irony of the bolshevik "boogeyman" is that in WWI Germany was essential to it's creation. They originally provided Lenin with sanctuary and a soapbox - NOW they worry about Bolshevism, they didn't seem to mind it at all in 1917.
good point.
Probably would add however that this was probably not widely known at the time. Downplayed for sure by the Nazis who had been in power for about 10 years.
@@jacksonreilly3441 The German Communist Party (KPD) was the third-largest party in Germany and particularly strong in the capital Berlin. It was actually the most popular party among Germany's unemployed, with the Nazis in second place among that constituency. Hitler did not just promise to destroy "Bolshevism". He said he would sweep the "hundred parties" of German politics away. Basically a one-party state, but millions of Germans rejected parliamentary democracy. The Weimar Republic was also denounced by the Nazis as the "Judenrepublik", the "Jew Republic". And the Nazis were scarcely keener on the "Marxist" SPD, despite the latter's bitter relationship with the KPD.
Yep. The sealed train from Switzerland.
Reads quite familiar when you look at the US funding and elevation of the Taliban to fight the Soviet Union only to have to be defeated themselves by said Taliban.
German joke: A child finds a picture of his grandfather standing in a crowd as a young man with his hand raised. He asks his grandfather what he was doing there. He answers: Yes, it was at a big conference, where someone asked, "Do you want total war?" So I stood up, raised my hand and said, " Stop, wait a moment!"
Gotta love that sarcastic deadpan German humor. XD
If i remember correctly there is a moment in the speech where Goebbels almost lets the word ''extermination'' slip out of his mouth when talking about the Jews. Then he corrects himself just in time by saying something like ''relocation'' or ''deportation'' i think, all of this in german of course. It's a particularly chilling passage.
I read that, the source is an American historian who claims he got it from the recorded version. I personally have never recognized which part he was talking about.
So not sure how true it is. Plenty of other content in the speech however refers to "Jewish measures" so there's that.
Goebbels' secretary claimed she knew nothing of the extermination because people were told that the Jews were simply being sent to repopulate the Sudetenland with German speakers.
@@gurufabbes1I am German and I have heard his exact words. It’s true.
@@vaolin1703 I speak German as well but I can't really pinpoint the moment. I've tried.
@@gurufabbes1 Okay. One video is called “Goebbels - Do you want Total War? | TOTALEN KRIEG” and the moment is at 0:30
I also like that you are actually dissecting the content. In terms of rhetoric, particularly if you understand German, its unparalled and is widely referenced in German media (negatively of course).The content of the speech also I think makes it harder for Holocaust deniers, given the virulent anti-semitism in it and references to the "Jewish measures" "judenmassnahmen".
I mean, at this most dramatic moment, everything is in danger, he chooses THIS moment, to go on a radical tirade against the Jews and defend the "Jewish measures". It is very relevant and overlooked.
@gurufabbes1 Thanks for exploring the war with us. It's only through examining the past and such effective propaganda, that we can hope to avoid repeating such awful times.
Laughed very hard at the idea of Goebbels making claims about a communist revolution in Peebles 😂
Edmund Blackadder screams.
@@aleksazunjic9672 This is the same nonsense that this entire video is talking about. Did you learn nothing?
Vague slogans about undefined, sinister enemies, "cultural marxists" being no different to "Judeo-Bolshevists" or the like. Whipping up fears of conspiracies that don't actually exist, in order to convince stupid people to be afraid of anything vaguely left or liberal in character.
@@aleksazunjic9672 The video at the top of this page literally addresses that exact claim. It's confirmation bias, nothing more. The majority of the Bolshevik party were orthodox Christians and atheists. Jews were present, e.g. Trotsky and Martov, but as a minority.
You're on a video about the dangers of fascist propaganda and you're repeating fascist propaganda. Think about that.
@@Ahrlin9
I just took the effort to look into who composed the politbureau in 1917.
Would you have the courtesy to define what is a majority? Just so that we are talking about the same subject.
@@Ahrlin9 Martov was a Menshevik who self exiled himself after the October Revolution
"WOLLT IHR DEN TOTALER KRIEG!?"
"DO YOU WANT TOTAL WAR!?"
Those words still give me the goosebumps and chills.
Yep. But of course not in a good way.
Be careful what you wish for.
I only recently saw the last part of the banner with “shorter war”
Even in Berlin they needed that to get the crowd going, but it could not be seen on the radio.
It's a sentence that is iconic, but particularly iconic because in no context would anyone ever ask such a thing in a public address to the nation.
“Total War”
Sherman have appear
A lot of Shermans have appear
the nazi party: "We will be also closing down luxury restaurants."
Goering: "Over my dead body!!!"
Allies: We could arrange that
There is a German joke
"Do you want Total War?"
"No!"
"What do you want then?"
"Maoam!" (Maoam is a chewy sweets)
The Nazi world-view was a powerful conception as Spartacus describes it. The Bolshevist hordes on one hand and the Capitalist terror bombers on the other -- both controlled by you-know-who. It was nutty, yes, but did explain how two ideologically opposed adversaries (Communism & Capitalism) could find common cause in order to destroy Germany.
Germans after WW2: wait, are we the baddies
An excellent episode on the German transition to Total War. Thank you TimeGhost team!
Wow, waking up in midday, ignoring intelligence briefs because they are too long and boring, and spending all your time lounging around? Where have I heard that before?
I assume Hitler didn’t spend all morning on the toilet though.
Gross exaggerations, except for waking up at midday.
Hitler and Goebbels being fans of Frederick the Great is kind of ironic. Since Frederick the Great was gay 😏🏳️🌈
Not only that but he loved France and french culture
I always found the propaganda the N*zis used a very interesting topic. Thank you for making videos about it.
Really digging this tie Spartacus! Nice touch with the pocket square as well. 4/5
Thank you!!!
I love the way you show the rhetoric trap that was laid open to the people, who fell in it without realizing that it was a self-fulfilling prophecy! It is such an accurate and at the same time terrifying description of what this whole war and nazism is generally. Thanks so much again for your hard works !
@Kevin Kalomeni you're welcome, thanks for watching with us!
The archival video footage of Goebbels' speech really made this video. I love the narration combined with the coverage. It makes it more alive.
Excellent doc, as always, but a correction: The Spanish Republic was far from be a communist regime. The communist party was very secondary. Even the Stalin's target during our civil war was just to get an alliance with France. Not a communist regime! When Stalin failed (Munich Conference)he left the Spanish Republic.
"Well, I for one did not ask for total war" (German civilian in 1945)
How about an episode about the early use of Television in WW2, the Germans were in many ways ahead of their time with outside broadcasting, lifestyle and variety programmes..
They had a lot of modernist tv shows. For instance...
Heinz's Helden
Gunther's Island
Let's Make a Deal That You Can't Refuse
My Price is Right
I Love Lilly
Das Bormann Bundel
Wheel of Misfortune
Schaden-Fruende
Das ist Altvays Funniezisch im der silly Delphie
then again..... Germany does seem to have dominant position in the EU today. Maybe Joey saw the destination but not the path?
One of the more fascinating episodes. I find these terrifying glimpses into the inner workings of this insane but so very real ideology and socio-political system most interesting, much more so than strictly military history.
@Werd Lert Very glad to have you with us, thank you for watching. The amazing thing about this war is the endless facets of terror, planning, intelligence, armaments, and absolutely everything that went into it. We appreciate having such an enthusiastic audience to explore with us. Stay tuned
I'm always impressed with the amount of detail you guys put into your videos. I consider myself a WW2 buff, but I didn't know about this speech or what was in it. I knew that these became the Nazi party's stance in the war, didn't know when it was broadcasted to the people. Fascinating stuff. I've found it hard to find these speeches translated into English, maybe because it will inspire Neo Nazi's or something? I just want to know what they were saying exactly to get these people so fired up they thought they could control the world.
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Great video. The dishonesty of using Friedrich II's image in Nazi propaganda really struck me. To me, Friedrich's character seems nothing like Hitler's. His policies promoted tolerance and freedom (relatively to monarchies at the time), and he saw himself as a servant of the state, not its "essence" (the the concept of the Führer). In fact, Friedrich and Hitler probably had very little in common with each other (they both liked dogs, I guess).
Also (and slightly off-topic), wasn't Prussia nearly beaten in the Seven Years War, until Empress Elizabeth died and the pro-Prussian Peter III became Emperor?
Is any of these assessments correct?
Yes, the Czarina died and the alliances changed, sparing Friedrich the Great. Goebbels clutched at this straw when Roosevelt died and mentioned the historical parallel to Hitler. It seemed to lift his spirits temporarily.
Goebbels was picking up on a shift to the left in British elections which would see Churchill
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defeated in 1945. The by-elections tended to tell that story, with fringe candidates picking up surprisingly large votes and occasionally winning. There was a wartime truce, so by-elections were normally not contested by mainstream parties - for example, a previously Conservative-held seat would not be contested by Labour or the Liberals, in an attempt to give the new Conservative candidate a free run. But instead independents and eccentrics would throw their hat in the ring.
The "unconditional surrender" demand was stating what had existed since 1939, that WWII was an existential struggle.
Re Women in the German labour force: It is a myth. German women were already proportionally more engaged in the labour market than in Britain already in 1939. There was no great numbers of people idling. The total war drive recruitment covering women between 16 and 45 found only 1.5 million potential workers, with 700,000 of them requiring part time positions. Hans Kehrl, never believed Germany could acquire more than 700,000 additional female workers. This does not in any way replace the lost workforce gathered up for the meatgrinder in the East. The Total War declaration was pure propaganda, nothing more.
"You guys are still allowed elections?"
Fantastic narration as always Spartacus!
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What other options were given to Germany besides just fully and randomly surrendering in 1943? Could we get a video on all this peace offer exchange that went on after Dunkirk up to 45?
It’s a bit of a complicated thing to cover. The simple reason is that while the Nazi leadership consistently refused to entertain any peace talks whatsoever, some individuals made openings to the United Nations Allies. It’s difficult to see how you should rate that on any scale of credibility. Thus, the better way to handle those events is within the story when it happens - we have covered some of that in Indy’s coverage, and we will in Astrid’s soon.
The long and short of it? Until January 1943, the Germans could have entertained a great variety of peace offers, but refused to do so. We can only speculate what the terms would have been, since they refused to entertain such an idea, and by the basic logic of war and diplomacy, you don’t offer peace terms until you are asked, and you don’t ask until you’re about to give up, or you have achieved your goals in a position of strength. Neither was ever achieved.
By early 1943, by all military and economic standards Germany was in a position when they needed to sue for peace, but by then they had committed such incredible atrocities that the only condition on offer would be unconditional surrender. The reasoning behind that was that it was clear that to achieve lasting peace, the Nazi regime (and those of the other Axis) had to go, which in turn means they could not be a viable negotiating partner.
I always love these videos. They are a incredible way to remember the dark past that we all struggle and want to forget - specially during these times a podcaster here said that "should be a NSDAP party legalized" because of "free speech".
As a historian once said (i don't remember which one rn, but i think it was Marc Bloch) "the objective of the historian is to reminds the society what she want to forget". Continue the good work, boys.
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@@WorldWarTwo as a future historian on college i say that you guys are both inspiring and doing a incredible work.
One of my favourite parts of watching these is when really stupid decisions are made by the axis , or when they say contradictory statements based on false information, he just sits there quietly, for 2 seconds, shuts his eyes(as if to shake off the stupidity), exhales, and says "But,"
Now we see how apocalyptic the Reich really is.
No, this whole speech - apart from the new rules about a few slackers and women - was just a mood lifter rather than actual policy shift.
They didn't divert resources from the efforts against undesirables. Those resources could have gone towards fighting the Russians.
As someone who is 165 cm short too, i am insulted to be of same height as Goebbels 🤣
I’m so hyped for the newest episode!
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Goebbels was the third best propagandist in world war 2!!!
Tokyo Rosie was the second best propagandist because they were not really sure who it was, even though they they one was taken prisoner after the war!
But Churchill and Roosevelt tie for first because of the Doolittle's raid, Churchill speech on the battle of Britain! They really didn't lie but they didn't tell the truth either! They inspired millons to total victory!
The Allies: Bruh you are abit late on the Total War thing
This sounds like a special video to upset all the sympathisers of the anti-democratic agitators around the world.
This speech (which can be heard online) has a major slip where Goebbels starts to say the Ausrottung (eradiacation) of the Jews, and then catches himself and converts it to the softer Ausschaltung. I am not, however, sure that this slip penetrated much at the time. Victor Klemperer, for example, was aware of the Total War speech and wrote some about it, but he never mentions "eradication." By this point he was pretty aware of what was going on, and if any of his friends had noticed this, it would have circulated in the Jewish gossip network in Dresden.
The clock behind him stuck at two minutes to Midnight was a nice touch.
Iron Maiden would be proud.
@@joemiller9931 you're the only one who got it 😁
Shakespeare, ‘Cry ‘Havoc!’ and let slip the dogs of war’ pops to mind. Great episode Spartacus.
@@GaudiaCertaminisGaming THX, I did a little read on the subject. Sparty's delivery trigger my thought. Also the word Havoc had a more drastic and literal meaning in the time that Shakespeare wrote.
Which play is that? Richard III?
@@DrJones20 Shakeseare’s Julius Caesar.AS I read from web.
19:02 I have never seen this photo, colorized or otherwise. It is bone-chilling and stark for the setting and subject. Wow.
Brilliant clarifications. And this is exactly why politics should be thought to all citizens by independent international entities, instead of filling their minds with nationalist garbage. Not knowing anything about politics is how peoples' minds are easily stirred into doing horrible things
Ah yes, I too am revolted by the Capitalist-Bolshevik-Communist-Free Market forces of the Jews!
Cognitive dissonance? Never met him. :p
People forget that the “hard working” Hitler had a lot of daily “Executive time”.
I, for one, see what you did there. And I applaud it ;)
Yeah - I wouldn’t mind having his schedule: starting the day at noon, frequent breaks for snacks, end the day around 6pm with a walk with the dogs and a film. Hitler had it made, and he threw it all away on some stupid plan to invade the Soviet Union while on some serious drugs!
I suppose people never really know what they have until it’s gone…
@@wilberwhateley7569 He didn't end the day at 6PM, he sometimes had conferences late at night. And as far as drugs, Dr. Morell gave him mostly vitamins and injections of caffeine.
“When logs need to be added to the fire, how many people would demolish their house for fuel? That’s what it means to be trapped in total war… and stare into the darkness beyond.” -unknown
I'm very happy that my great-grandfather, Karl Franz Hildebrandt, decided that after WW1, he had enough and moved to Switzerland!
And funny note: Recently we did DNA tests in the family and came to the conclusion that from our german side, they were not even technically german to start with but originally from Scandinavia and Ireland/Scotland! :D
Or we in Scandinavian origin in Germany with all the rapes from the Swedish armies of mercenaries from Germany.
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This, indeed was a masterclass! Thank you, Spartacus!!
Never Forget!!
Thank you!
I must say, I've been watching this channel since the beginning and your speaking and overall screen presence have improved remarkably. (It was good to begin with, but it's quite excellent now.) Well done Spartacus, and thank you for doing what you do.
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Along with many of your other excellent presentations, this rings of modern familiarity. 8:30 is like listening to my neighbor -- without all the cursing. Rural living, I guess...
Is the cursing fair and balanced as well?
The Casablanca declaration was possibly the worst move the Allies could have made at the time. Between this and the Morgenthau plan it gave propagandists in Germany all the fuel they ever needed to drag it out to the bloody end.
"Total war means total destruction". Not only Goebbels fault. WW1 in retrospect was a failure as an armistice was signed when Germany suffered minor war damage. It allowed later Hitler to claim that the German army was stabbed in the back. So this resulted in the Casablanca conference in 1943 to decide that only unconditional surrender would stop the war. Another reason for the Germans to fight to the end: the Nazi regime was involved in so many atrocities that any negotiations were impossible.