What the Hell Happened to Arkane Studios | Redfall
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- Опубліковано 1 тра 2023
- Another amazing studio bites the dust with it's lackluster release of Redfall.
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Alot of peeps are attributing this whole drama on the fact that this is Arkane's Austin division that made the game, not the studio in Lyon, and that's the reason it's bad. I really don't like that argument. If we look at Arkane's games, Dishonored 1 was co-deved by both Austin and Lyon, D2 and Deathloop was made by Lyon, and Prey and Redfall were done by Austin. So the studio that made goddamn PREY made this thing.
The actual 'X factor' that was behind all of Arkane's hits was director and co-founder Raphael Colantonio. He directed D1, which is a classic, but not D2, which is not as good. He then directed Prey, literally one of the greatest games ever made, and left Arkane.
And every game after his departure proceeded to be bad in some way. Make of that what you will.
The "X factor" is definitely something people will overlook, including myself. But I feel like most people don't designate how good/bad a game is based on the studio division (Lyon/Austin). I think most people will see "Arkane" and reference it as a whole vs. looking at who the director was.
For example, Rockstar. If GTA 6 turns out to be a total mess, whoever was in charge at the time, whether they're from Rockstar North or Rockstar South, Rockstar as a whole would get the blame. I don't think most people would dive into the nitty-gritty of why the game was bad/good, even though the nitty-gritty is damn important, aka who the director was etc.
Check the game's credits. Whilst there's still veterans in key positions, 70-80% of the world/level design team consists of people who've never worked on an Arkane game before -- but rather open world stuff all over the industry, from Mafia to Saints Row over Far Cry and Destiny. The OW design lead previousl worked at Bioware on ME Andromeda and ... (fittingly?) Anthem. A lot of these people where hired as recent as early 2022 too according to their LinkedIn (which probably says a bit about the game's development process...)
That's not accounting for the people that Colantonio took with his to WolfEye after Prey -- the "flop" that hurt some. The credits of Weird West show more than a dozen people who've prior worked at Arkane or collaborated with them. Prey's system lead meanwhile has moved on to Bungie. Rich Wilson, lead level designer on Prey, is at Archetype.
Great sight thanks!!
I wonder what happened internally. They were making nothing but gold until 2017, then with Wolfenstein Young Bloods, something had changed and never changed back.
Oof...Wolfenstein Young Bloods, that one was painful. Something internally must've happened. Leadership change up (for the worse) or something. Whatever it is, it's really unfortunate for us the players.
PS: Still curious about the next Lyon game. They still have the fantastic Dana Nightingale and a couple others.
Glad to see someone talking about this. Now Lyon is making a 3rd person licensed IP instead of a first person, immersive, and original world. People say Deathloop is bad but it is not, it still felt like an Arkane game.
Why talk about Dishonored (Arkane Lyon) as a reference, when Arkane Austin did Prey? Where is the logic of this introduction?
Just think, Microsoft believes this game is good enough for Game Pass. It's a huge mercy they are unlikely to seize Activision-Blizzard King.
Exactly. If this is the type of content they're will to put out and think it's okay, I can only imagine if they got a hold of such a massive company.
Acting like Microsoft is the only company to release broken games Lmao.
Blizzard/Activision/Sony/EA release tons of broken games
@@dwhalithey already gave Arkane one entire year of delay, you can’t blame Microsoft for that
they took your money and ran lol!
I'm just glad I spent $10 (Xbox gamepass) and not $70 😬😂
Microsoft execs happened. I dare say what released wasn't what their original vision was and were pressured to chase industry trends
I could definitely see this not being their original vision. With all the quality work they've done in the past, I just can't see them intentionally pushing something out of this quality but...it is 2023, and the industry has changed. With or without execs, they definitely do play a big factor which is unfortunate.
You’re wrong, we know that ZeniMax forced Arkane to do a live-service game, they never had a vision from the start
Zenimax forced them to make a live service game Microsoft atleast gave them a years delay to make it single player and not mtx ridden
I never wanted to hate this game. For me Arkane+vampires = gold
but somehow this game is boring and basic as a PS2 game
I had the same mindset about it being gold. Had high hopes just because of the fact it was from Arkane. It's very unfortunate they delivered such a boring and bland product =/
most ps2 games are better than redfall which is crazy
deathloop is so underrated...its so much fun and a nice alternate for dishonored
Agreed
They DMCA their own twitter account! bruh never go full....
They went woke...and lost all their soul...miss when they made dark messiah and dishonored,my favourite devs before Wolfenstein youngblood
Deathloop is good, check it out
Compelling story and Dishonored doesn't combine with each other. Every Dishonored game is just "kill that guy, kill another" for the whole game
Yes and that’s compelling, it’s a revenge story