I watched a summary of the hearing, and the final conclusion is that every mistake they could've made, has been made. 1 - The school resource officer wasn't on campus 2 - The court failed to relay the information about the shooter to the federal government, that hes got a domestic violence past and can't buy a gun 3 - One of the teachers turned the locking mechanism the wrong way on the classroom door, so the shooter was able to open it from the outside 4 - The police chief didn't have a radio 5 - The police's radios didn't work inside the school 6 - Police chief held back the officers, even though they wanted to enter as they were hearing gunshots 7 - The discords, forums, and etc where the shooter shared his views and plans, didn't report him 8 - Some copies of the school layout plans that were in emergency bags all over the school ready to go for this exact situation, were wrong/weren't updated 9 - Dispatcher relayed the wrong classroom number to the officers (102 instead of 112) although the officers found the correct classroom right away And I'm sure theres more I just can't remember all of the mistakes. This whole thing was like a Final Destination movie where every safety measure fails simultaneously.
@@SobeCrunkMonster nah all of them. All guilty by association. Especially the golems who tackled, cuffed, tasered, and pepper sprayed parents outside for trying to rush in and stop it. ACAB UNTIL proven otherwise.
More so the fault of the chief since the state police and feds where there but just bcs they show up doesnt mean they have jurisdiction. So thats how the chief blocked them from clearing the school since there are jurisdiction rules in place to protect state rights and local rights this is just one of the one offs where it was used to stop the good from stopping the bad
@@Redmanfms where did u come up with the conclusion that he was talking about all three being in the political spectrum. Even if he was talking about them, woody would be the small minority that disagrees. You fridge temp Iq mor0n
The thing that pisses me off the most is the cops let their own officers go in and retrieve their own children but leave all the other kids there to die! Blood boiling
They've handled this whole situation so poorly that it's damn near criminal. If they fucked up they should come out and say it, what are they actually trying to hide? What we have seen so far is abysmal, I can't imagine the footage and details that they aren't willing to share with the public
@@L3GitOMYT1 haha imagine believing people of authority should suffer consequences when they misuse and abuse it very foreign concept to us Americans sir even though we don’t stfu about liberty and freedom or whatever
It isn't damn near criminal - it IS criminal. 'Losing' the body cam footage is felony obstruction of justice at the very least. They're trying to hide the fact they they failed to uphold their sworn duty to protect and serve, allowing one 18-year-old nutcase to massacre an entire class room of young children. Instead of doing their jobs, they cowered in fear. It's truly disgusting and they all should be charged and immediately fired.
@@HardenJID That isn't true across the board. Never undermine the power of the masses, especially in the age of social media where information travels in realtime and the public forms angry mobs (mostly online but sometimes IRL, too). Mobs that place undue pressure on the powers-that-be (politicians, government agencies, any sort of body with elected officials, etc) that either back them into a corner, forcing them to take action or otherwise risk their own reputation...or provides them with an opportunity to bolster their public approval.
@@dead7163 wrong. If "the police are corrupt and useless" is true then you most definitely need guns to protect yourself from those who would do you harm. This is just reality. We will never live in a utopia without violence. All good people can do is defend themselves and others as best they can and that is done with GUNS, like it or not.
There’s a documentary on Netflix called “terror at the mall”, it covers the attack on a Kenyan mall in 2013. There is a lot of security footage inside the mall. See the police response for that, it was utterly abysmal. Took vigilantes to go inside to save a few people.
@@ShivaOO7 Yeah, in Kenya, they let civilians do the job if the police aren't doing it. In the United States, your children just get murdered while the police prevent you from helping them and refuse to help them. Kenya is probably better then this shit.
@@jackygreenhow9889 Ever heard the expression "apples to oranges"? Obviously an underdeveloped nation with a minute fraction of the resources to allocate to LE shouldn't be held to the same standards as a world superpower. I'm no cop hater, but this is common sense. Conversely, directing displeasure towards LEOs rather than the busted ass system in which they exist is counter-productive and misguided. It IS an interesting story, but not a reasonable one to draw comparisons to.
I read an article about how one mother sped to the school upon hearing the news that a mass shooting was taking place. She made it clear that she intended to take matters into her own hands once she saw that the police weren't doing a damn thing about the situation. They threatened her within bologna charges to prevent her from entering the building...but once she found an opportunity to do so, she was able to break in and retrieve her children by jumping a fence and entering in through a window (or something along those lines). When she shared her story with the media, the police dept attempted to silence her until it was picked up by too many outlets. Apparently they were afraid her account would made them look bad. Hmm, I wonder why. 🤔 Oh, I know. Because they didn't do s*** to help those babies while they were being massacred!! I hope the entire agency is held accountable for gross neglect. There were so many better ways they could have gone about this, but instead opted to cower in fear. And hearing about the body cam footage supposedly being 'lost' is absolutely absurd. All LEOs on the scene should be charged with obstruction of justice and immediately fired.
This was an 'Independent School District Police Force', in a town of 15,000 residents. We should be asking a lot of questions about what, exactly, is an 'Independent School District' and why does it have its own police force. Many towns this size hardly have any government at all.
Imagine what horror the surviving and injured children had to experience while they were trapped in room 111-112 with the gunman for over an hour while a group of cowardly grown men armed and armored stood right outside in the hallway pointing their weapons at a wall as if they were a frozen NPC unit in a video game. As a video gamer that is exactly what that picture looks like. Hope each one of those children can get a good attorney and sue the hell out of the school, police, city and state for the emotional and or physical trauma they had to endure while under the responsibility of the school district.
The one that gets me is the footage of the police running around with all the bells and whistles on but they're doing nothing and going nowhere in particular Too many chiefs not enough deputies
Yup, all these cops were ready to rock and did absolutely nothing, not a single one of them. They can talk all they want about how it was an order from up the chain to standby, but it is 100% ridiculous that it took an off-duty border patrol agent with soft armor, an old 12 ga, and a trucker hat to gain access and neutralize the shooter, after 40 minutes of the cops doing nothing, tax-payers of Uvalde should be furious that they pay to arm their police with the best gear possible and they won't even attempt to use it in order to save them or their children's lives.
I'm so sick of seeing these obese, potato-headed, cops squeezing into their tacticool military gear. All they accomplish is pointing m4s at harmless citizens, and cowering in the presence of actual threats.
@@ShivaOO7 The hell kind of question is that? Okay, I'll sign up right now. But the city should get a refund on all the wages they paid to those officers first. Because they're not doing their job. Do we have a deal?
My school santa fe high school had a shooting 10 people died and one of our school police officers rushed in towards the gunman and got shot in the arm and nearly died but I'm proud he at least tried his best.
Y'all remember when Mr. Jeff did a backflip from his secure cell and all the cameras malfunctioned. These devices go down at the most inconvenient times
It's also the fault of the individuals officers. They were ordered to stand and wait for an hour while a gunman was inside a classroom, and took no issue with it in the moment. It took over an hour for someone with the sensibility and bravery to gain entry to the school, and he wasn't even on duty, he did it because it's what anyone in his position should do, this was a failure on all levels, do not give any of these officers an easy-out, they should be stripped of their badges and sent to McDonalds to flip burgers, they are incompetent at best
I really don't want to be redundant, but if they had the presence of mind to wonder why they were being told to stand down, that's actually worse. They had the agency and free will to make the call and ignore the orders.
These cops literally detained and prevented parents from coming in to rescue their kids while they did...nothing. All the more reason why people should embrace 2A instead of relying on others who may or may not rescue them for their own safety.
Absolutely correct man. Law enforcement needs more motivated better trained individuals and people need to embrace the fact that they ARE THEIR OWN FIRST RESPONDERS.
Taylor always seems so passionate about his views on the cops. I can’t possibly think of anything that would have maybe given him a negative view of the law.
the only positive that can come from this is now people realize why the second amendment is so so important, law enforcement will literally let your children die, but stop you if you try to do something about it. I can see them arguing that allowing people who were armed inside would've caused more deaths or chaos, which is a valid point, but that point gets thrown out the fucking window when the people who are suppose to protect you, and your children, are just fucking sitting there as they get murdered, and can only find courage when they're dealing with parents that trying to save said children, but only then. And i think i get why stopped the parents, if the parents ended up saving the day and domed the cringe lord shooter it would make people really consider police reform and a lot of law enforcement and politicians would be out needless middle man desk jobs. Its better to stop the parent just to add that one extra talking point barrier to protect these cow eyed sub humans that will let children die and think 'hey, it suck to be those parents but i need this job, i have a family to think about" because talking about the abhorrent action of stopping parent from saving their children is preferred to "why the fuck do we need law enforcement if they dont protect us?" Like for fuck sake, at least pull a parent to the side and low key tell them "and whatever you do, dont jump that fence over there because if you did we probably couldn't stop you from saving your children as there are no officers there" edit; pro strat would be to tell your partner to make a big scene and rush in during the distraction, or seek out all the parents (shouldn't be hard to find, they're obvious in distress) then all at once rush in, sending the unarmed parents in front to take the arrests with armed parents in back, if cops fire on you, and you die, you can take solace knowing you've just created a movement
Every single officer that responded needs to be kicked off the force and blacklisted from future law enforcement work. Their pensions should be taken away and given to the families of the victims.
You people are so soft you can’t accept a world where bad things happen, so it all has to be by design. This isn’t a movie. The bad guys have no grand scheme and sometimes the “good guys” piss their pants in fear.
It has to be because error stupidity is beyond calling a lack of clear thought or not knowing what to do, it’s the most obvious “let the shooting happen” ever
Yet another reason why you don’t give up your guns, by the way. If that dad didn’t get in there and stop the gunman, who knows how many more would’ve died?
That was proven false within days, the person who killed the shooter was one of the police team that breached the classroom. The dad admits himself that he wasn't even there when they breached.
@@TheOriginalTuhat Nah, the dad who was the off duty officer wasn't pepper sprayed or anything. He'd borrowed his barber's gun to go and help but everyone falsely claimed he went in by himself with his borrowed gun and took the dude out by himself. Instead it was the breach team of 5 cops who took out the shooter, the dad wasn't involved once he had gotten his wife and kids out.
Selflessness isn't something that can be taught. It needs to have been installed from a young age. As much as I dislike the police here for their selfish behavior, this should be lesson to the masses that you need to be strong enough to take care of yourself and the ones you love. when push comes to shove no one will look out for you, with very few exceptions.
Yeah. Too bad those elementary school children and a bunch of unarmed, unsuspecting, middle-aged, school staff didn’t just “look out for themselves” Bruh. You really think anyone can handle being thrust into situation like that? That what cops are for.
Police volunteer to serve and protect, stop acting like they are some unwilling conscripts. Those cops jobs is to face that risk, not fucking school children
when kyle says he is going off info from reddit I know he is wrong he also thought bannana taylor was sleepin her bed and said the cops were just scared of a black lady and left out a cop was shot and almost died
Strange that this was jumped on so much when the police at Columbine took at least an hour longer to breach that building. It's as if it's news to people that the police exist to enforce the law on behalf of large corporations.
That was way different. It was the first time something like that had happened and there were explosives involved. There was no “gameplan” for such an event at the time. This is way different and worse when you consider school shootings are basically normalized now and there is protocol for how to respond to them. Agree with your last point, but the two situations were very very different.
Don't disagree on the purpose of the police, but Columbine was more or less the first modern school shooting(along with some smaller ones around that time frame) that kicked off this whole cultural 'thing'. At that point no one had any policy in place to respond to these events. I remember in the year after everyone scrambling to figure out how to train and respond to school shootings, that was the year mesh backpacks in school became required. We strangely got lucky with Columbine; Those two assholes started a cultural meme of shooting up your school, but luckily their bombs didn't work and so the media didn't focus on that aspect Once an angry kid successfully bombs their school then we're going to be dealing with a whole other can of copycat worms.
Yeah but that was like 9/11. People were used to hijackings being just a way to make demands. Plane lands, hostages released and traded for fuel, fly to Libya or some shit. It was new. When Columbine happened, there were no SOPs for it.
@@TheGhostOfBucketCat It wasn't the first one, but I'll grant you that it was early. It's really not much different. People were outraged about the inaction of LE back then too. They had nearly a thousand officers responding within 30 minutes and the most generous report I've heard is that they entered the building over two hours later. 3.5 hours is probably more realistic. It's favorable for them to allow attacks to occur. Only strengthens their agenda.
If i was a cop and my commander said dint go idc im saving those kids fire me. You take an oath to protect and serve you should die as a cop before the victim if you’re right there on seen
You guys should really watch some Donut Operator videos before you talk about police situations. He has a video about this, and he is reviewing footage of people who have actual knowledge and timelines of what exactly happened discussing it. He was in command, he was the chief, he had no radio on him, he used his cell phone to talk to 911 to coordinate everything, he did tell everyone to stand down and not even enter the school, said he had to "set up a team first", waited almost 2 hours while they heard more gunshots, and then 6 officers ended up going in and shooting him (I believe they said 6 ran to the door but only 3 made it in during the gunfight).
Cops aren’t there to serve and protect, that’s just a motto that makes them feel good. Cops Enforce Laws Period! Law and order! That’s all they’re thinking when they’re on the job. That’s how cops can do things like tackle and disarm a husband from charging in to save his wife. It’s not about right and wrong, there is ZERO good or evil in an officers eyes, only threat or non threat, only compliant or non compliant. If you need cops to start protecting and helping more than you should be targeting the minor law enforcement aspects of policing. For instance, an officer handing out a 200 dollar ticket for a broken taillight for an unemployed single parent on the way to a daycare center should honestly be punished to doing so; he IS enforcing a law. But he is also harming a community member who is in a rough position and this action is CLEARLY not good nor is it protecting anybody in that moment. If you want heros, then heroic behavior has to be exemplified or DIRECTLY REWARDED, and never punished. And rule-following that hurts people needs to be punished instead. Much more officer discretion must be allowed, so that certain laws CAN be ignored when situations call for it. And remove quotas! No more using cops as high school hallway bullies, tipping others kids upside down and shaking loose change out… If cities need money they can have two options; directly tax your citizens more OR spend less. That’s it, no other options. Personally I’d remove tickets and fines from society all together and just have people with a certain amount of minor violations do mandatory charity work or even just time in jail.I’m sure the lawyer in the white BMW with 80 speeding tickets in the last 100 days will think a bit harder before speeding next time if you have him 21 days jail time minimum mandatory with extra time added for ANY bad behavior. If removing all tickets and fines is too much lost income for certain municipalities then they can waive fines and tickets for individuals with under a certain income, it’s a half measure and it has room for loopholes but it’ll work.
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I watched a summary of the hearing, and the final conclusion is that every mistake they could've made, has been made.
1 - The school resource officer wasn't on campus
2 - The court failed to relay the information about the shooter to the federal government, that hes got a domestic violence past and can't buy a gun
3 - One of the teachers turned the locking mechanism the wrong way on the classroom door, so the shooter was able to open it from the outside
4 - The police chief didn't have a radio
5 - The police's radios didn't work inside the school
6 - Police chief held back the officers, even though they wanted to enter as they were hearing gunshots
7 - The discords, forums, and etc where the shooter shared his views and plans, didn't report him
8 - Some copies of the school layout plans that were in emergency bags all over the school ready to go for this exact situation, were wrong/weren't updated
9 - Dispatcher relayed the wrong classroom number to the officers (102 instead of 112) although the officers found the correct classroom right away
And I'm sure theres more I just can't remember all of the mistakes. This whole thing was like a Final Destination movie where every safety measure fails simultaneously.
Well with cops and police departments like this I see no reason why we shouldn't turn in our guns for our own safety
Taylor is literally a homosexual man
My guns have never hurt anyone. Common sense would be for everyone to give me their guns.
@@Matt-xc6sp he's being sarcastic
@@commanderosis435 I’m not. Hand em over
@@Matt-xc6sp ok give me 75k to replace it all
They should charge all those cowards with criminal negligence.
you mean the ones in charge of the operation lol
@@SobeCrunkMonster nah all of them. All guilty by association. Especially the golems who tackled, cuffed, tasered, and pepper sprayed parents outside for trying to rush in and stop it. ACAB UNTIL proven otherwise.
@@SobeCrunkMonster and the ones saying "i was just following orders"
A minor misdimeanor, a slap on the wrist? lol.
@@BudMasta Are you a moron? Criminal Negligence can result in years of prison. Besides, its not like you could accuse them of murder. Idiot.
Happy to see that both sides of the political isle can agree that the police were absolutely horrible in this tragedy.
yet we still fund them , buy them new weapons and armor just to do nothing.
Except one side sees this and says the cops should be the only people with guns! fucking crazies.
More so the fault of the chief since the state police and feds where there but just bcs they show up doesnt mean they have jurisdiction. So thats how the chief blocked them from clearing the school since there are jurisdiction rules in place to protect state rights and local rights this is just one of the one offs where it was used to stop the good from stopping the bad
But Woody didn't agree dimwit.
@@Redmanfms where did u come up with the conclusion that he was talking about all three being in the political spectrum. Even if he was talking about them, woody would be the small minority that disagrees. You fridge temp Iq mor0n
The thing that pisses me off the most is the cops let their own officers go in and retrieve their own children but leave all the other kids there to die! Blood boiling
I occasionally check in on the Uvalde Police Department facebook page to see some of the comments. They won't be living that shit down for a while.
They should be in jail
@@allighast9714 amen
They've handled this whole situation so poorly that it's damn near criminal. If they fucked up they should come out and say it, what are they actually trying to hide? What we have seen so far is abysmal, I can't imagine the footage and details that they aren't willing to share with the public
They shot some kids I'm guessing.
@@L3GitOMYT1 haha imagine believing people of authority should suffer consequences when they misuse and abuse it very foreign concept to us Americans sir even though we don’t stfu about liberty and freedom or whatever
It isn't damn near criminal - it IS criminal. 'Losing' the body cam footage is felony obstruction of justice at the very least. They're trying to hide the fact they they failed to uphold their sworn duty to protect and serve, allowing one 18-year-old nutcase to massacre an entire class room of young children. Instead of doing their jobs, they cowered in fear. It's truly disgusting and they all should be charged and immediately fired.
@@jenjuice432 and still nothing will happen….remember rules and the law are only for us common folk not people with authority or who are wealthy.
@@HardenJID That isn't true across the board. Never undermine the power of the masses, especially in the age of social media where information travels in realtime and the public forms angry mobs (mostly online but sometimes IRL, too). Mobs that place undue pressure on the powers-that-be (politicians, government agencies, any sort of body with elected officials, etc) that either back them into a corner, forcing them to take action or otherwise risk their own reputation...or provides them with an opportunity to bolster their public approval.
Thank god our taxes go towards hiring such brave officers like this!
Maybe those lefties had a point with “defunding the police” if this is the best they can do with 40% of the municipal budget.
The same people who say “YOU DONT NEED A GUN, YOU CAN CALL THE POLCIE.”
Also say “THE POLICE ARE CORRUPT
AND USELESS!”
both true
@@dead7163 wrong. If "the police are corrupt and useless" is true then you most definitely need guns to protect yourself from those who would do you harm. This is just reality. We will never live in a utopia without violence. All good people can do is defend themselves and others as best they can and that is done with GUNS, like it or not.
@@dead7163 you're braindead
There’s a documentary on Netflix called “terror at the mall”, it covers the attack on a Kenyan mall in 2013. There is a lot of security footage inside the mall. See the police response for that, it was utterly abysmal. Took vigilantes to go inside to save a few people.
Yeah, Kenya is a little different than the United States there, bud.
@@ShivaOO7 yeah obviously, just interesting to note. I was comparing the two in order to show the difference, or lack of.
@@ShivaOO7 BUD
@@ShivaOO7 Yeah, in Kenya, they let civilians do the job if the police aren't doing it. In the United States, your children just get murdered while the police prevent you from helping them and refuse to help them. Kenya is probably better then this shit.
@@jackygreenhow9889 Ever heard the expression "apples to oranges"?
Obviously an underdeveloped nation with a minute fraction of the resources to allocate to LE shouldn't be held to the same standards as a world superpower.
I'm no cop hater, but this is common sense.
Conversely, directing displeasure towards LEOs rather than the busted ass system in which they exist is counter-productive and misguided.
It IS an interesting story, but not a reasonable one to draw comparisons to.
They need to fire the whole department & start over. Cowards
I read an article about how one mother sped to the school upon hearing the news that a mass shooting was taking place. She made it clear that she intended to take matters into her own hands once she saw that the police weren't doing a damn thing about the situation.
They threatened her within bologna charges to prevent her from entering the building...but once she found an opportunity to do so, she was able to break in and retrieve her children by jumping a fence and entering in through a window (or something along those lines).
When she shared her story with the media, the police dept attempted to silence her until it was picked up by too many outlets. Apparently they were afraid her account would made them look bad. Hmm, I wonder why. 🤔
Oh, I know. Because they didn't do s*** to help those babies while they were being massacred!! I hope the entire agency is held accountable for gross neglect. There were so many better ways they could have gone about this, but instead opted to cower in fear.
And hearing about the body cam footage supposedly being 'lost' is absolutely absurd. All LEOs on the scene should be charged with obstruction of justice and immediately fired.
This was an 'Independent School District Police Force', in a town of 15,000 residents. We should be asking a lot of questions about what, exactly, is an 'Independent School District' and why does it have its own police force. Many towns this size hardly have any government at all.
It sounds like everyone on site should be fired and blacklisted from joining any pd in the country.
Just wait until you see the body cam footage. I won’t spoil it for you but buckle up.
I heard rumors... is it gonna be released?
@@ChucksSEADnDEAD couldn’t tell you for sure. Hopefully a leak will happen before they can release their doctored video.
Imagine what horror the surviving and injured children had to experience while they were trapped in room 111-112 with the gunman for over an hour while a group of cowardly grown men armed and armored stood right outside in the hallway pointing their weapons at a wall as if they were a frozen NPC unit in a video game. As a video gamer that is exactly what that picture looks like. Hope each one of those children can get a good attorney and sue the hell out of the school, police, city and state for the emotional and or physical trauma they had to endure while under the responsibility of the school district.
From what I’ve heard a lady snuck in and rescued her kids while it was happening
The one that gets me is the footage of the police running around with all the bells and whistles on but they're doing nothing and going nowhere in particular
Too many chiefs not enough deputies
Yup, all these cops were ready to rock and did absolutely nothing, not a single one of them. They can talk all they want about how it was an order from up the chain to standby, but it is 100% ridiculous that it took an off-duty border patrol agent with soft armor, an old 12 ga, and a trucker hat to gain access and neutralize the shooter, after 40 minutes of the cops doing nothing, tax-payers of Uvalde should be furious that they pay to arm their police with the best gear possible and they won't even attempt to use it in order to save them or their children's lives.
I'm so sick of seeing these obese, potato-headed, cops squeezing into their tacticool military gear. All they accomplish is pointing m4s at harmless citizens, and cowering in the presence of actual threats.
Why don't you sign up, smart guy?
@@ShivaOO7 The hell kind of question is that? Okay, I'll sign up right now. But the city should get a refund on all the wages they paid to those officers first. Because they're not doing their job. Do we have a deal?
Absolutely. Spot on.
A lot of police are afraid of their own shadow
My school santa fe high school had a shooting 10 people died and one of our school police officers rushed in towards the gunman and got shot in the arm and nearly died but I'm proud he at least tried his best.
Y'all remember when Mr. Jeff did a backflip from his secure cell and all the cameras malfunctioned. These devices go down at the most inconvenient times
Quite a few cops that where there asked “why are we not going in” and the chief said stay outside so it’s is absolutely the chain of commands fault
Ok the good old we were just following orders bs excuse
It's also the fault of the individuals officers. They were ordered to stand and wait for an hour while a gunman was inside a classroom, and took no issue with it in the moment. It took over an hour for someone with the sensibility and bravery to gain entry to the school, and he wasn't even on duty, he did it because it's what anyone in his position should do, this was a failure on all levels, do not give any of these officers an easy-out, they should be stripped of their badges and sent to McDonalds to flip burgers, they are incompetent at best
All were cowards
I really don't want to be redundant, but if they had the presence of mind to wonder why they were being told to stand down, that's actually worse. They had the agency and free will to make the call and ignore the orders.
We were just following orders hasn't worked since 1945.
Leave it to woody to defend the chief 😂
This just gives greater incentive to stay strapped
These cops literally detained and prevented parents from coming in to rescue their kids while they did...nothing.
All the more reason why people should embrace 2A instead of relying on others who may or may not rescue them for their own safety.
Absolutely correct man. Law enforcement needs more motivated better trained individuals and people need to embrace the fact that they ARE THEIR OWN FIRST RESPONDERS.
Taylor always seems so passionate about his views on the cops. I can’t possibly think of anything that would have maybe given him a negative view of the law.
the only positive that can come from this is now people realize why the second amendment is so so important, law enforcement will literally let your children die, but stop you if you try to do something about it. I can see them arguing that allowing people who were armed inside would've caused more deaths or chaos, which is a valid point, but that point gets thrown out the fucking window when the people who are suppose to protect you, and your children, are just fucking sitting there as they get murdered, and can only find courage when they're dealing with parents that trying to save said children, but only then.
And i think i get why stopped the parents, if the parents ended up saving the day and domed the cringe lord shooter it would make people really consider police reform and a lot of law enforcement and politicians would be out needless middle man desk jobs. Its better to stop the parent just to add that one extra talking point barrier to protect these cow eyed sub humans that will let children die and think 'hey, it suck to be those parents but i need this job, i have a family to think about" because talking about the abhorrent action of stopping parent from saving their children is preferred to "why the fuck do we need law enforcement if they dont protect us?"
Like for fuck sake, at least pull a parent to the side and low key tell them "and whatever you do, dont jump that fence over there because if you did we probably couldn't stop you from saving your children as there are no officers there"
edit; pro strat would be to tell your partner to make a big scene and rush in during the distraction, or seek out all the parents (shouldn't be hard to find, they're obvious in distress) then all at once rush in, sending the unarmed parents in front to take the arrests with armed parents in back, if cops fire on you, and you die, you can take solace knowing you've just created a movement
Everything y'all said are facts, to me.
Every single officer that responded needs to be kicked off the force and blacklisted from future law enforcement work.
Their pensions should be taken away and given to the families of the victims.
pigs generate revenue for the state
They should bring back the stockade and free rotten vegetables to the public for these kinds of events…
Break out the tar and feathers and toss some tea in the ocean for good measure
This smells like alphabet soup
They treated it like it was a hostage situation. But we all know, the shooter obviously wasn't taking hostages.
Strange that this clip hasn’t blown up
Ok we need to start forcing these people to retire and get out
I live an hour out from this small town. When it comes to cops, they are all lazy in the small town.
Cheif was definetly told by big brother to let this happen or risk being suicided.
You people are so soft you can’t accept a world where bad things happen, so it all has to be by design. This isn’t a movie. The bad guys have no grand scheme and sometimes the “good guys” piss their pants in fear.
It has to be because error stupidity is beyond calling a lack of clear thought or not knowing what to do, it’s the most obvious “let the shooting happen” ever
Chief is just a coward
No need to assume malice when incompetence is a much simpler answer
For a detailed breakdown checkout donut operator.
So weird it is almost like the situation was orchestrated by higher powers haha. Only kidding of course.
Yet another reason why you don’t give up your guns, by the way. If that dad didn’t get in there and stop the gunman, who knows how many more would’ve died?
He was a federal agent and don’t suck off the cops then every chance you get and maybe there could be actual consequences for them like everyone else
That was proven false within days, the person who killed the shooter was one of the police team that breached the classroom. The dad admits himself that he wasn't even there when they breached.
@@hsouler5633 tf, was that dad the one who got pepper sprayed then?
@@TheOriginalTuhat Nah, the dad who was the off duty officer wasn't pepper sprayed or anything. He'd borrowed his barber's gun to go and help but everyone falsely claimed he went in by himself with his borrowed gun and took the dude out by himself.
Instead it was the breach team of 5 cops who took out the shooter, the dad wasn't involved once he had gotten his wife and kids out.
Selflessness isn't something that can be taught. It needs to have been installed from a young age.
As much as I dislike the police here for their selfish behavior, this should be lesson to the masses that you need to be strong enough to take care of yourself and the ones you love. when push comes to shove no one will look out for you, with very few exceptions.
Yeah. Too bad those elementary school children and a bunch of unarmed, unsuspecting, middle-aged, school staff didn’t just “look out for themselves”
Bruh. You really think anyone can handle being thrust into situation like that? That what cops are for.
Police volunteer to serve and protect, stop acting like they are some unwilling conscripts. Those cops jobs is to face that risk, not fucking school children
At this point your better off handling problems yourself, and calling the cops for cleanup
Its like the cops were acting like they were letting it happen
You spelled 'Guarding the False Flag' wrong.
when kyle says he is going off info from reddit I know he is wrong he also thought bannana taylor was sleepin her bed and said the cops were just scared of a black lady and left out a cop was shot and almost died
Is woody clipping his nails ? 💅
Dear Anonymous...
Did they want border patrol to look good?
Shits planned
Strange that this was jumped on so much when the police at Columbine took at least an hour longer to breach that building. It's as if it's news to people that the police exist to enforce the law on behalf of large corporations.
That was way different. It was the first time something like that had happened and there were explosives involved. There was no “gameplan” for such an event at the time. This is way different and worse when you consider school shootings are basically normalized now and there is protocol for how to respond to them. Agree with your last point, but the two situations were very very different.
Don't disagree on the purpose of the police, but Columbine was more or less the first modern school shooting(along with some smaller ones around that time frame) that kicked off this whole cultural 'thing'. At that point no one had any policy in place to respond to these events. I remember in the year after everyone scrambling to figure out how to train and respond to school shootings, that was the year mesh backpacks in school became required. We strangely got lucky with Columbine; Those two assholes started a cultural meme of shooting up your school, but luckily their bombs didn't work and so the media didn't focus on that aspect Once an angry kid successfully bombs their school then we're going to be dealing with a whole other can of copycat worms.
Yeah but that was like 9/11. People were used to hijackings being just a way to make demands. Plane lands, hostages released and traded for fuel, fly to Libya or some shit. It was new.
When Columbine happened, there were no SOPs for it.
@@TheGhostOfBucketCat It wasn't the first one, but I'll grant you that it was early. It's really not much different. People were outraged about the inaction of LE back then too. They had nearly a thousand officers responding within 30 minutes and the most generous report I've heard is that they entered the building over two hours later. 3.5 hours is probably more realistic.
It's favorable for them to allow attacks to occur. Only strengthens their agenda.
All the cops there... Life in prison
For cowardice
Too much “cover your ass” and not enough common sense, a trend I keep seeing over and over.
People forget Texas state law prohibits police from killing an armed suspect until he reaches double digit fatalities.
Kyle interrupted Taylor so many times in this short clip. Love Kyle but come on man.
Think about it....dead children are a better political tool than rescued children
If i was a cop and my commander said dint go idc im saving those kids fire me. You take an oath to protect and serve you should die as a cop before the victim if you’re right there on seen
You guys should really watch some Donut Operator videos before you talk about police situations. He has a video about this, and he is reviewing footage of people who have actual knowledge and timelines of what exactly happened discussing it. He was in command, he was the chief, he had no radio on him, he used his cell phone to talk to 911 to coordinate everything, he did tell everyone to stand down and not even enter the school, said he had to "set up a team first", waited almost 2 hours while they heard more gunshots, and then 6 officers ended up going in and shooting him (I believe they said 6 ran to the door but only 3 made it in during the gunfight).
Bootlicker Operator
@@DennisMartinezCalifornia You must have a super high IQ
Cops aren’t there to serve and protect, that’s just a motto that makes them feel good.
Cops
Enforce
Laws
Period!
Law and order!
That’s all they’re thinking when they’re on the job. That’s how cops can do things like tackle and disarm a husband from charging in to save his wife. It’s not about right and wrong, there is ZERO good or evil in an officers eyes, only threat or non threat, only compliant or non compliant. If you need cops to start protecting and helping more than you should be targeting the minor law enforcement aspects of policing. For instance, an officer handing out a 200 dollar ticket for a broken taillight for an unemployed single parent on the way to a daycare center should honestly be punished to doing so; he IS enforcing a law. But he is also harming a community member who is in a rough position and this action is CLEARLY not good nor is it protecting anybody in that moment.
If you want heros, then heroic behavior has to be exemplified or DIRECTLY REWARDED, and never punished. And rule-following that hurts people needs to be punished instead.
Much more officer discretion must be allowed, so that certain laws CAN be ignored when situations call for it. And remove quotas! No more using cops as high school hallway bullies, tipping others kids upside down and shaking loose change out…
If cities need money they can have two options; directly tax your citizens more OR spend less. That’s it, no other options.
Personally I’d remove tickets and fines from society all together and just have people with a certain amount of minor violations do mandatory charity work or even just time in jail.I’m sure the lawyer in the white BMW with 80 speeding tickets in the last 100 days will think a bit harder before speeding next time if you have him 21 days jail time minimum mandatory with extra time added for ANY bad behavior.
If removing all tickets and fines is too much lost income for certain municipalities then they can waive fines and tickets for individuals with under a certain income, it’s a half measure and it has room for loopholes but it’ll work.
False flag
Ok windmill brain