Pack of Lies (1987) Ellen Burstyn | Teri Garr - True Drama HD
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- Опубліковано 14 лют 2023
- In a case that would shock the nation, a friendly couple were discovered to be high-level Russian spies operating out of their quiet suburban home. Based on a true story.
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This is a truly gut wrenching story. Teri Garr and Ellen Burstyn both do wonderful jobs. Really a tragic story.
Came across this movie again and watched it for the 2nd time. Helen Burstyn is simply marvellous and the story was so well scripted and done. Brilliant actually.
Based on a true story that became a fairly successful Broadway play.
her name is Ellen.
Ellen Burstyn and Terry Garr are phenomenal in this. It's good to see Garr in a serious role. Great direction by Anthony Page.
Films based on true stories are usually much better than those based on fiction. So true of this movie. Great drama and suspense till the end.
You mean this was a true story? My goodness! The lady died of deep sorrow! Goodness gracious how emotions can be fatal sometimes! Yes, reality is always more complex! Helen lied about her true identity because naturally she could not possibly share it considering it was private but.. she could’ve been more understanding if she truly cared for Barbara as a friend that the issue was beyond Barbara. Much, much bigger than her! The matter exceeded friendship! If Barbara warned her she’d be an accomplice in the eye of law and public, betraying authorities, her citizenship and her country but I guess being caught and charged and put away for a considerable period of time is not easy to accept the reason Helen looked at it as an unforgivable betrayal whereas the other poor lady suffered from constant agony and died doubting her loyalty to someone who did not quite deserve it… or did she?!
Yes ! just knowing this happened to a real person makes it so much better.
@Hana.the.writer Helen probably wanted to keep betraying her "friends" and spying for the USSR. I read a couple of articles on the case, and it kept very close to the actual events. There was a son who was not portrayed. The daughter, Gay Search, became a TV presenter and a journalist.
Kept me on the edge of my chair. Alan Bates should not be overlooked for his good acting here. I spent almost the entire movie wondering if he wasn’t scamming Barbara and her husband.
@@hana.the.writer5074💯 agree
Non spoiler: great script, great cast. 3 wonderful lead females. Terri garr is so charismatic, and Ellen's performance was top class. Well worth a watch dont be put off by 3 minutes of overlaid music at 1.08 it stops and back to normal. Gives you An Inspector Calls vibe keeping you guessing and watching and the script does really well to plausibly keep that going. Well worth a watch and thanks for the upload👍
Powerful! The agony of trust obliterated, not being able to know what's real and what's not, not able to trust one's own knowing.
Like today with all the propaganda
@@terry4137 It's as if we live in the old Soviet Union. I'm in the US, and, those who have power are there for the power and wealth, and that's what they serve, not our Constitution, not the People. They're psychopaths. The two corporate parties have become enemies of democracy, and they'll tell us anything to manipulate us. I ask myself what does the most good for the most people, and I look for people who seek to serve the truth, who question and want us to question, who don't want to lock us up for not marching in lockstep. I have a lot of faith that most of us would like to be good neighbors to all mankind. Like you.
Much truth in your words
So much pain when one's trust is betrayed
Ellen Burstyn was absolutely brilliant in this role. Gosh I never knew she was such a great actress.
Agreed. She was fantastic she carried the whole film powerfully.
I'll watch anything with her in it
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Teri Garr is brilliant. What a performance! Wish she'd been given more parts like this. I didn't know how talented she was. She's as good as Barbara Stanwyck or Meryl Streep. Good parts are rare I guess, and they always go to the same people.
This is one of those exceptions that take time for the word to get around that it is...Exceptional.
Very, worthwhile watching, folks.
You won't regret it.
I watched for about fiteen minutes and did regret it.
This movie was so suspenseful and sad. Intriguing till the end.
A great movie. What a glimpse into the reality of "love-bombing" narcissistic abuse and the shattering that comes from an empath who believes in that treasured friendship.
Perfect comment. Im going through this now with someone i thought was a friend...at least she isnt a russian spy.....hopefully haha
I didn't see it like that at all. I think it was a genuine friendship from both parts. I'm disgusted by the way Alan Bates intrudes in a familyhome of people that in the beginning don't even know what's going on...must have been during the McCarthy period. And can you please stop using words like "narcist" and "empath"?? Those words mean nothing. Why this trying to fit every human being into a box??
Burnsteyn is just naïve, but I think I'd react the same and Helens friendship in my opinion real. She was guilty in the end but she didn't hurt that family, did she??(I skipped a bit.)
@@smoly37 sorry, the truth is that the Teri Garr character was an abusive narcissist who preyed on a neighbor whose character was an empathic and kind woman. Garr was a betrayer and a user, and cold to the bone as she was discovered. That was not a real friendship.
@lisaroy, I do believe you are very wrong. It was a true friendship. When you are a spy, how can you talk about your work even to your closest friend?
@@clairebourassa5943 Did you watch the end? Pure hatred. not sadness. she was the betrayer of her country and her "friend". Sadly, people in dirty businesses USE people. The husband understood this at 47 minutes in.
Amazing how much thrill, excitement and anxiety can be generated from within a tiny house.
Ellen was fab as usual. The rest of the cast were great too. Ellen is one of my top 3 female stars, the other two being Kathy Bates and Geraldine Page.
Excellent movie, enjoyed watching. Thank you.
Also LOUSE FLETCHER!! Such great artists.
Miss Teri Garr. She was a great actress!
What a VERY sad story… the friendship was so true and deep that it broke her heart… OR the falseness and betrayal broke her spirit… the deception and not being able to trust what you had thought was true, your misjudgement of reality, broke her.
Ellen B is SUCH a great actor… The story and her acting moved me and made my heart so sad as well. I could identify with this.
Thank you for posting this wonderful movie!
I've never trusted anyone, no one. I'm nice, but trust is not one of my skills.
Me also!
@@darkchocotony3391I wish I had your sense
Excellent & very gripping & brilliant acting thank you
Wow, great movie, Ellen and Teri were terrific! Thank you for posting!
I remember my mother putting up a calendar for 1961 and saying,
'Doesn't time fly!'
Always love watching this movie
Marvelous acting on all💓💓💓💓
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wow that was powerful and intense .. do we ever really know our neighbors ??
Sometimes only what they or we want them to know😥🤔😥🤔😥
Quite extraordinary! A spy drama with an emotional touch all the way through. What a great movie. Betrayal and deceiving are human factors but the answer to why is blowing in the wind.
I thoroughly enjoyed this wonderful film!
Ellen Burstyn’s British accent is amazing.
It was rubbish, sounded American, who did the casting....or the voice coaching ?
The only thing wrong with this film was her American accent. Her acting was great, but it's a shame they didn't have a bit of common sense and cast an English actress in the part.
BTW: there's no such thing as a British accent.
@@jumperontheline Or English unless you want to say the nation speaks RP
@@MrResearcher122Very true! Americans always seem to say British though ... except for one lady in San Francisco who told me she loved my "English accent". I was pretty shocked by her ignorance, especially as I was visiting from New Zealand 🙄 😂
Good movie, with excellent acting. What a beauty Ms. Garr was.
Thank you for posting this excelllent movie - best acting I'm seen in a ling time. Gripping till the very end.
Wow! Alan Bates! Brilliant actor.
Such an amazing movie; it's almost like seeing life streaming in front of you, with all the personal and intimate details of relationships between ordinary people. In the end, I felt sorry for the mom (Ellen Burstyn) who could not forgive herself for being deceived. She never realized that this friendship actually never existed and that her narcissistic friend betrayed both her country and her neighbors.
😂 I'm STILL WATCHING 😮
BE quite.
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If you know so MUCH, 😂🤣😮💯.
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@@jasanders5877 so why do you read comments before you watch the whole movie? and then blame people for what you read? They have as much right to share AFTER watching whatever they want to ...and it's your responsibility to not read what not want to know until done watching it for yourself...dont you think?
@@marianl3447 oh come on. There ARE THOSE who read some comments before watching just to see if its worth it. Lighten up! I do too and its great fun. We also know the risk of getting too much info by the way😂 nothing to do with "responsibility" lol
The friendship was real. And stop throwing around some lame diagnoses - "narcissistic" - yeah right.
@@marianl3447 Who in their right mind would read the comments without realizing there could be spoil alerts???? Smh.
This is brilliant, the story, the acting. Whatever happened to British TV, once, but no longer, the best in the world? Sad.
Absolutely riveting film! Thanks.
What an exceptional movie! Ellen Burstyn and Terry Garr are fantastic, their characters are so well played with great depth. Each of the actors does a wonderful job, and the suspense is thick. I felt disappointed in Garr's character, that she was at the end so cold and with "sociopathic" leanings, when Burstyn's character does let slip the hints about what is about to happen. It is so sad that the actual person played by Burstyn died of a heart attack just days after the capture went down...
The end? When Julie goes to the jail house & Helen tells her that her mother stabbed her in the back and she will never forgive her? What Julie should have said is " I will never forgive you for deceiving my mother and our family you commie witch". Helen was no real friend. That is not how the KJB works.
thank you so much for sharing this excellent movie
riveting, touching, excellent movie
This was a really good movie. It does puzzle me how anyone could grief over someone who had betrayed them, and their country.
You can then obviously throw friendship out without any feelings.
Aunty Helen was evil to the end. Telling Julie she would never forgive her mother for betraying her, messing with her head.
Helen was the deceiver.
You see, I thought about it this way too at first until I looked at it from another perspective. Helen lied about her identity only because naturally she could not possibly share it like I mentioned in another comment for it was private but she did share friendship with Barbara. That is what the film tried to deliver.. the complexity of reality. I felt awful for Barbara though for she did not recover from the turmoil and passed doubting her loyalty.
@@hana.the.writer5074 but how of the friendship was to ingratiate themselves into the community to be above suspicion ?? that was the greater deception that killed her ..
@@direwolf6234 absolutely. Helen was despicable. Pushy. Overbearing, and manipulative to the very end.
@@lcam9241I agree. I can’t believe Helen actually thought SHE was the betrayed one. I would’ve been furious at a “friend” that only used me as part of her deception.
The goofy ditzy Terri Garr character used as a cover for ruthless evil. You have to understand that Helen would have murdered all three of her neighbors if given orders to for 'the cause'.
What a treat! British movies at their best. Love it
wow ! excellent movie !! thank you so much for sharing it !🙏🙏🙏
Based on fact, the story of Peter and Helen Kroger - the neighbour's daughter grew up to be Gay Search, a BBC gardening presenter in later life.
I was truly fooled by what transpired in this movie and although it was taken from true incidents, I was sad how it played out
This os a good one; great acting, suspenseful and very well done. Better than Arlington Rd..
I watched this film back in 1989 in Malaysia broadcasted by TV RTM. I still remember this film since it is a good film. Never expected to watch it again in YT.😀
Moves pretty slowly, but gets more and more interesting - I´m used to the fast moving, hi tech flashing jangle of today´s movies.
This movie is AWESOME!!!❤❤
Felt so bad for the mom. Never having friends and all the lies.. so overwhelming.
What a brilliant movie. Top tier performances- did not expect this. Thanks for uploading.
I used to love Terry Garr ! I apparently saw her back in the mid 80's in L.A.,someone pointed her out walking on the street ,I couldn't tell ! Lol. 💜🥁🐉🎤🎶💞
Full of suspense but heavily embellished. For those not familiar with the real story, the character of Mrs Jackson wasn't anything like as neurotic as portrayed here. Once she became aware of Helen's real identity, she played her at her own game, and she didn't die a few weeks after, but 8 years later.
I think it didn't do justice to the real Mrs Jackson [Mrs Search], but reality is often less interesting.
Also they didn't spy from the parents bedroom but from the daughter's room. She also had a brother who wasn't in the film, being turned into a boyfriend instead.
If you google map, the real house is in Cranley Drive, Ruislip, London, right at the end of the road, and overlooked by the house in Courtfield Gardens. The upstairs windows used overlook the Kroger's bungalow opposite.
For a non speaking role, I thought the Russian spy was miscast. The real spy was quite a good looking man, very affable by all accounts, not like the bald headed rather podgy man in the film here. They would have done better using one of the other non speaking actors, those in the back of the car when Stewart turns up at the end, they both look more like the real Russian...
Helen Kroger said later, she spied because she saw the U.S. becoming a superpower and she and her husband wanted to restore balance, so they spied for Russia. She also said that as far as she knew they never got anyone killed because of what they did.
I wonder what they would think of Russia today, along with all those Cambridge Spies around the same time...
Thank you for your comment. It helps alot! Being betrade by a friend is never easy, I feel for the mom in this movie. (can't help but feel these American spies were democrats😳 after what you explained so well.✌🏼
Maybe, but one thing Peter and Helen had in common with a number of other spies then, is that they were Jews [Morris and Lona Cohen]. A number of Jews spied for Russia at the time.
Where can one find the real story? Is it à book? A film?
Hi I only recall my mom in heaven telling me she read the book in the 1980s sorry don't recall any more information💓💓💓💓💓💓💓💓
@@GeeparisGoogle the film title and it will tell you.
WOW, what a treat! Thank you❤❤
Wow! What an ending..
We don't believe that people can fool us. But they can, somehow. I had a friend fool me for many years.
Barb's inability to understand that Helen's friendship was not genuine if she was prepared to betray Barb's country. Her loyalty and conscience were misplaced.
😢say what NOW 😮
The friendship was real.
Very good movie !
One of the truly great movies of all times !!!
I suppose that I had never seen a proper drama all thespian like, thank you much appreciated.
Great movie!
Amazing acting by Ellen Bernstein. Looked like a low budget film until you look at the amazing cast.
I had watched this movie a couple of times 😢 ❤❤and I would watch it again what great performance of all the actors on top with Eileen second to none( to Ingrid whom I had adored as a young woman) 😊She played with her eyes her heart with her entire human being ❤❤HereI I have two stars in my mind's eyes ❤❤Hats Down 😊
* Ellen Burstyn
A really great movie. THank you
Excellent movie!
Good movie with great actors but a very abrupt ending. 😮
Agreed. The movie should have ended with the mother looking out the window with no commentary. That wouldn't have seemed abrupt, imo. What made the ending abrupt was ... "and then she died 8 weeks later." According to another commenter, the true story didn't involve the mother dying 8 weeks later, but 8 years later.
🇬🇧 Thanks for sharing. 👍
Yes, brilliant!
Surprisingly good.
simple script made great by these actors
very good indeed!
Has this taken a place during the cold war ? I just started watching . 💜🥁🐉🎤🎶💞
Helen & Peter Kroger were arrested in 1961 in Britain. They were convicted of espionage & imprisoned. They were exchanged in 1969 by Britain and spent the rest of their lives in Russia. They taught spy skills in Russia. They were awarded medals & honors for their service to the USSR.
Whoa !! So,it was based on a true event !! I was wondering. Thank you ! Thank you so much for the info & reply !! 👍💜🥁🐉🎤🎶💞
I hate that the end of the movie got cut off, I feel cheated. I recommend that you let your movies play out till the end. It’s a big disappointment. A very good movie. Great acting by both Ellen Burstyn and Terry Garr. Glad you posted it, but I would like the ending.
Anything with Ellen Burstyn will be worth my while, Terri Garr is a tremendous plus, but Richard Bucket💐 too🤗👏
Great movie
Good movie...especially from the 80s!
Please 🙏🏼 put your movies on playlists thank you ❤
Good movie!
Being born in 1960 i remember that kind of decor - Most of Grannies victoriana had been binned being seen as worthless and old fashioned - replaced with a kind of strange frumpiness now collectable in its self as retro or vintage - I much prefered the sadly binned victoriana myself
Nice movie
Great movie, Spoiler comment so don't read:
Well worth a watch, brilliantly builds tension and keeps you guessing with a plausible script. The acting is first class especially the 3 female leads who completely carry the film so well. After building the intrigue so strobly i was hoping for a bit more of a plot twist at the end, but wouldn't stop me recommending. Please try and include the credits 🙏
So shut your gob
I actually was thinking that it was the father who was the spy and they were trying to get him to crack.
@@marysisak2359 yep, it needed a twist of some kind
This is real life. Real people suffered because the government used them as emotional cannon fodder. You want a plot twist to make it more entertaining for you?
Does it seem like the music that starts at 1:08:32 is out of place and too loud to anyone ? Seems like it was added as overlapping the original movie. I've seen this film before and I surely don't remember that. Any ideas ?
My thought exactly. I had to pause the film and check to see if it wasn't leaking from another opened tab. Glad when it finally ended.
@@patrickryan1515 Haha ! I thought the same thing at first. I'm wondering if the music/song that was actually in the original movie has a copyright protection or something. Maybe they needed to cover it with this to override the copyright. Oh, well.....still a great film.
@@foryourviewingpleasure966 Glad you, too, could overlook this defect to allow you to conclude "It was a great film" The decomposition of Ms. Burstyn's character was near brilliant.
Yes music far too loud. Bad, careless dubbing.
Yeah, thought the music was coming from a neighbor's. Just din't go with the scene.
It was very suspenseful 1st to middle & towards the end ,but the ending was strange & let down. 💜🥁🐉🎤🎶💞
Well, that's the way real life is.
Yes, the ending was horrible.
@@debbietalbert959 Right !? Lol. 💜
I think you're referring to the abrupt ending where the daughter narrates that her mother died 8 weeks later? The movie was so good and then they ruined that last little bit. Too abrupt, and frankly unnecessary. According to another commenter, the real lady died 8 years later, not 8 weeks. The narration at the end was so disconnected from the rest of the movie. Still, good movie, tho.
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I was so engrossed in this movie, but I absolutely hated the ending. There was no reconciliation or explanations given. The ending came too quickly, and the fact that she died four weeks later changed my mind about the movie. Very sad. 😢
I hear you, but I don't think the whole movie is ruined by that dumb last few sentences. The last narration should have simply said, "A few weeks after that, my mother started to recover a bit, though she was never the same. It was hard for her to trust people after such a deep betrayal. Eight years later she passed away. It was a heart attack, but my father and I think it was brought on by the broken heart that never fully mended."
It's amazing the way people can lie like that, I can't even lie about what time I go to bed at. Lol
Ive seen another version of this theme exactly the same staring Micheal York instead of alan bates and have i seen this movie before i think so.Good movie😢which stared Micheal York and a famous brittis actress forgot her name.judy dench
Great. Thanks ( JW HC)
Good movie.
Very sad movie. It makes you feel you can’t trust anyone. It was just wrong for the government to use those people and hurt them. They should’ve found another way.
I hate that the end of the movie got cut off, I feel cheated. I recommend that you let your movies play out till the end. It’s a big disappointment. A very good movie. Glad you posted it, but I would like the ending.
Wonderful drama, with Alan Bates, one of Britain's respected thespians. Two American leads, Teri Garr and Ellen Burstyn, made this a psychological drama with deep layers. Love, friendship and betrayal and political espionage are the dramatic themes, but the 50s suburban neurosis and lurking curiosity added a storyline which feminist could chew over, and Freud could spit out. Burstyn's English accent seemed flawless, and her sisterly chumminess with Garr's character, may have been rooted in both actresses American Irish heritage. You could tell these two like each other off screen.
I don't remember this one. I love both Ellen burystn and Teri garr.
Who the heck asks "OK, fess up, who was on the phone". Seriously??? Who does that? How nosy is that???
My fave, fave film ever...good to send Link to your frenemy to verify if friend or not...works for me. Great film on its own merit though. Especially love the young actress Sammi Davis.
Nice to see terri garr not acting too simple-minded.
I always thought Ellen Burstyn was due a diva spot in the autumn of her career, but as so often, she didn't quite make it - through no fault of hr own. In any case, I'll always hold Alice, Sarah, and Lois in the highest regard - Chris, not so much 😀.
For some reason, I always saw Teri Garr as the typical, occasionally quirky, sporadically ditzy, button-cute, all-American girl - in the vein of all those 1960s to 80s adorable Gidget-y girls-next-door coming out of Hollywood film factories and TV-land: Candy Clark, Karen Valentine, Karen Allen, Mackenzie Phillips, ...
In real life, their names were Morris and Lona Cohen, and they only served 7 years before they were sent back to Russia in a prisoner exchange.
I researched this. They were given literally a royalty welcome by the Russians when they arrived. They were honored by the Russian Govt..They have special honored gravestones from the Russian Govt. as well. They are considered by the Russians as "Hero's". The Russian Govt. even made stamps with them on them.
Terry is a dancer, she was playing down her talents there! OMG, just looked up, Terry is 80 now!
That got me!
I can’t take all that anymore in name of national security
sir, super movie, thank you please
She was the mother of Regan. In the exorcist 😮😮
She was brave
To do that thriller of movie ? I’ll will
Have been terrified 😢😂
speaking for myself, if i were into criminal activity of any kind, i'd sure be suspicious of a TENT popping up in front of my house & the men popping in & out of it! LOL.
i have had a crush on terri garr for decades ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Im American and I would deny it and claim another country too.
This movie kept me interested, but the ending was a letdown.