i think this will come in time. the boys entered LR with Caedrel as the shotcaller, so its obvious that they wont have a shotcaller anymore once he leaves (as a participating player). eventually they'll appoint one or two members as a shotcaller and that gap is covered.
@@highjumpkick999 Yeah and its a team of players that havent been on a team ever or havent been on a team in a long time (other than Rekkles) so they need to just work on it and learn at their pace. I think they got this as a team and Im hyped for them.
@@highjumpkick999 Isn't he coaching though? I'm not too familiar with pro teams and how they operate but isnt he allowed to be in voice comms during the matches?
@@brandonmandrell889 They never called Baus bad. Baus is great, but he's the definition of inconsistent. Yes, he seems to have the highest highs on the team, but he also has by FAR the lowest lows. *Peak* inconsistency.
That's not true, 2 members knew how to play instruments and taught the other 2. They weren't strong in music theory but that's not unusual for artists. They didn't just fuck around and make Hey Jude.
I think Baus was doing really really good with you on the team because you were almost forcing him to comm and you had an eye on him. In the scrims yeaterday he was so quiet and started falling into old patterns, like not tping for that fight which he 100% should have. He is genuinely one of yhe most gifted league players to touch the game but he constantly lets himself down with greed and solo play. Case in point, in the nno final he did the absolutely godly escape from the 3 man gank. Amazing right? No, because yhen he went back to the wave to greed for 3 ranged creeps and died, completely ruining it. He needs restraint, Caedral i would honestly get him a session with Alois to review one of the games and go into the detail. Alois has been vod reviewing the games and everytime he makes a point i think "damn i wish baus would hear this"
He is not selfish, he is unsure on how to contribute to the team. He buy them time, but they have no "plan", so without a plan to USE that tempo, tempo become worthless. Bauss didn't do as poorly as many people said thie day, some solo death were bad, but many of his move were amazing, just unexploited by the team sadly...
@@Masterpouya I never said he was selfish. Baus is my favourite league content creator and I've seen him grow so much at LR already. I just noticed in the scrims yesterday that he slipped a lot in terms of Comms and teamwork
I think Simons soloque style for making good but selfish plays on the map transfers to pro play surprisingly well. Surprising 9 players at once. edit. Didnt know Bwipo was irl challenger coach XD
@@crycrcfyhf8862 What do you mean by "most games" ... they win most games with Baus having good KDA. One bad scrim for Baus and ppl are writing him off. By the looks of it he had introvert / low energy mood that day
@@Argordeushe has multiple completely pointless and bad timed deaths basically every game. Not saying he doesn’t do well overall/later in the game tho.
i think what is unsaid most in the comment section and after ceadrel posted his talk with rekless that rekless was scared, not familiar with the team... so he did not talk or come on as a leader playing with LCK even tear 2 years the man knows macro. I think in time rekless will lead the team. Keep an eye on baus though we will see a man redefine toplane BAUS is crazy good!!!
I think he needs to figure out how to handle scenarios where 1.) He's losing a 1v1 side in the mid game and can't push the lane & 2.) How to contribute late when he's not the main carry. Obviously he plays to scale and is always up CS and wants to convert that to pressure but when the enemy team can hold him with 1 champion or he's getting picked before late game team fights he has to have the map awareness and foresight to know when it's a "group" game. When he can't 1v2 (or 1v1) he starts to run it. I think he can definitely sort it out.
The team looked uncertain on how to use the map advantage that he gave them. Caedrel was worse mechanically but knew how to use that advantage properly.
I mean Baus also was communicating a lot less. There was less cohesive communication in general. Also in their last set of scrims he fed tf out of fiora lmao
@@atifzaman8095 he doesn’t usually die on purpose to the enemy. He’ll try his best to execute, or die once or twice to reset his bounty. And he’ll usually only do that after proxy farming waves and getting a few plates. He was just taking poor trades and losing CS vs fiora
@ bruh I KNOW that. But there is a DIFFERENCE between GOOD deaths and BAD deaths. He was dying while not getting the wave, and not having it bounce back to his tower. Did you watch the fiora game? Usually his deaths allow him to get a lead which allows him to be a strong side laner mid-late. He could NOT match fiora because he FED her. He was NOT having good deaths that game
I've only seen highlights but it seemed that comms weren't as clear as when you were playing with respect to what the is the aim for the next minute/play
They played two scrims with Rekkless but played 3 weeks of games with Caedrel, it will take time and sadly there hasn't been enough time before the Redbull tournament. I expect them to get macro outplayed with maybe some highlights.
Bwipo definitely mentioned how the team just weren't making plans and such. It was regular that Varus has mid prio and just no one is trying to do anything off of it.
Before LR, only thing i know about Baus was his sion inting playstyle. Never really watch Baus before but now im slowly becoming a fan for his personality. But i have to say with no "baus's fan" filter. Baus needs to work on comm A LOT. Some simple sums/ults timer are definitely easy to call after a fight. But sometimes he just doesnt call it not sure why.
Yeah like that guy said, I think he’s just so used to the solo queue aspect that when he’s recently introduced to a team, he’s not used to comming as much. I think he just needs time to adapt and he’ll be better.
quite honestly makes a lot more sense in lane swaps though. Phase rush is really scary on a dive, and having ad on the tps back means u get to insta clear the wave a bit better which is the entire point
@@blitzcrank4840you really aren't, people would just straight up ignores you and you can't do anything about it, you can argue that his job is to cc but even that is a stretch when sion has no cdr on tank build on top of them already being hard to hit. Like you can just search up the seires where he played against tolkin tank sion when sion was massive or just watch bwipo in world, it's really not that good.
5:30 the biggest reason why shadowing syndra is good, is because you can have more control over your position if a fight breaks out. having to TP into a fight can be awkward with out any good wards. 13:20 poppy passive makes her tankier when she's low. might need to change runes or build path against her
I'd gave it some time honestly. Rekkles is still trying to mesh in with the team and adjust while Los Ratones is also trying to adjust with the new supp coming in instead of Sally.
Rekkles gives great info and understands his role way better than Caedrel. Crownie was a main shotcaller for a strong part of his career (namely when he went to Worlds with BDS) and will speak more, like he did at the NNO finals. With some work, this lineup has way more potential than with Caedrel in
@@OGKillerBee99 highly agree! Rekkles talks a lot about sums, ult cooldowns, positioning/movement of enemys. Thats his job and he does it. But he is not the macro play shot caller.
Yea but as a support in early game your rotations are also critical, so maybe here he should call his own shots depending on what players tell him they need kinda? Like gameplan: Early: Support Jgl Midlane keep track of jungle, know their positions and if they will be in a critical position in 30sec-1min and need a roam (whoever is free, midlane, sup or jgl) midgame: all about crossmap/objectives so jgl top mid adc should call what to take where to rotate lategame: engage players mark important chokes and pull trigger while calling out important targets, players with peel potential look for danger on damage dealers, only strong sidelane champion sidelane with tp up and know they are in danger
@@UpperMoon95 Yes but Rekkles doesn't want to be the shotcaller, that's why he left Fnatic, he was forced to be the shotcaller in G2 and that failed. He has stated multiple times in interviews that he doesn't want to be the igl. The only players in this team who can shotcall are jg and adc. Rekkles doesn't want to and Nemesis/Baus are clueless.
13:15 here and earlier in the game baus had solo kills on poppy but gave her E out of tower both times. i think if he runs to the tower and a bit perpendicular instead of away then she doesn't have the escape
we have to remember that baus is a soloque player, and he is a good one at that, so going into a team will be a learning curve for him, i hope caedrel and the team can help him more to learn the team side of the game and also make him a carry option, right now all i can see is baus being weakside and just proxy, but he can outplay 1v1 or 1v2 if he is slightly ahead, i hope he can have a good connection with jungle and support to push his advantages
I think Crownie is the one giving the most information on the team, at least proactively. He focuses a lot on the enemy ADC and will often spam his team to make a play just to get the enemy ADC summoners a minute or 2 before a major objective. The problem is that he's on ADC and that's usually not a role that gets to observe the map as often and isn't as good at recognizing the strength of others. If Crownie has flash down, he approaches the fight as if it's a losing one, which I whole-heartedly understand. Nemesis always starts off making calls, but as soon as a call is ignored, he stops making calls for the rest of the game. Again, understandable, it is very frustrating and he has recognized that to be a flaw in himself as well. Velja is a completely different beast when he's on comfort picks vs filling in a role that his team needs. When he's on point, every play this guy goes for is a winning one. He doesn't shot call a lot, but he is almost always the one asking what the team is planning to do a minute before it happens and reminding them to make a call. Baus just does Baus things, but it is so evident that Caedral is 100% right in this clip. He very often forgets to call out key ultimates or summoners. He recognizes tempo advantages on the map but does not communicate it. Things just fall into place and his team could benefit so much more if they knew what he was going to be doing beforehand. Rekkles I think is the one who needs to step up the most and make the calls. I think he's the most aware of how strong his team is at any given moment. I think the skill that should be built upon the most with him is, most of his team give out a lot of information during the game (except for Baus obviously XD), it has to be up to him to evaluate that information and orchestrate shotcalls for the next 3-5 minutes. All in all, they have superstars in every role. They just need a strong igl who can take advantage of that. The comms are there, but it's basically just background noise if there's no one forcing plays with those in mind. Los Ratones single-handedly got me interested in western league of legends again after over 10 years, and I think a lot of people share that sentiment.
the team is so mechanically gifted on top of that they all know how to play the game they just havent played enough together and need better communication
There is a definitely a lack of leadership in your absence. The plays were less orchestrated and thought out imo. I hope reckles will share more about his thought processes from his time in LCKa and everyone will listen and correct accordingly. Obviously nice to not have a 1-10 nautilus tho 😂
I have watched several scrim and those time Baus calls for something all just ignored him. There was just game where K'sante top was low health multiple times and every time enemy member came and Baus died. They lost that game.
I think if velja has a bit more confidence and is a bit louder he could shot call pretty good for this team but generally its better like bwipo said to bausffs to ask the questions if your not sure but try be as quick about it as possible, if two people agree then you all commit to it etc
Baus doesn't say anything because he isn't comfortable playing with other people still even though they're so deep into it now. He's still adjusting and doesn't feel confident he can speak up since everyone calls him an inter..
pretty much expected. cant build teamwork in one day. everyone still adjusting someone will step up to be the main shout caller to process whats next on macros
As Caedrel said, they just "throw" information onto the vocal. Nothing with real intent or "level of importance". When Neme is saying to baus something he says "Baus! Ori no flash ! Ori no flash Baus !" -> This info is clear and efficient. Or Neme alraedy shout in the finals "Baus ! They are coming for you !! 3 top Baus !" -> Of course he hears that. But "Leona bot" is so dull... It's the same voiceline as "I'm b" or e"I need 50g"
He e forward is to proc phase rush and ensure q slow on sylas, which isn't bad at that position. He get caught just because he is always greedy as fuck.
@@rockmanzexo And being greedy to the limit you can survive barely is one of the difference between a safe diamond player and a proficient challenger player. The higher the elo, the more the very small details can impact the game.
@@Masterpouyain this case i would say it is baus level of greediness rather than challenger level. Leona shows in bot jungle and his teammates go top side. Obviously he should play safe a bit as weakside but he said fuck it and go for a plate. But I enjoy watching this play style because it is very fun to watch lol.
Without Caedrel the team became Solo que mess. Also Baus is strange one. His skill is near the top level but he choses to play weaker champions putting himself in disadvantage.
What champs he chooses over stronger ones then? He only plays solo que champs. Gragas is the only one he picked up recently and he builds full dmg. Instead of tanky ap bruiser.
I think I see what Cadrel isn't seeing. Often baus has tempo, and then the team wants to do something and just backs off and wastes bauss tempo. It doesn't matter if he dies, but it would have been better to die/tower dive in mid. The team makes baus waste his tempo, they also don't put pressure on the map so baus can push/pot pressure in sidelane. It's not about being safe, it's about superior macro. Caedrel lacks macro vision. He needs to play some high level HOTS before he can truely excell at league.
if sion baus went top, botlane will get pushed team would stack towards the herald and really not good on baus playstyle aurora was the biggest problem for teamfights so once he knew aurora was botlane and never came back to fight his sion, he went top easily. it resulted in one bot crash and a top turret push. baus mentality is really awesome, his only weakness is he keeps it to himself during the game in their team, caedrel was correct for baus should tell them aurora used her ult or something.
If bausis adhd is anything like mine, his problem isn't that he doesnt know that some of his plays are troll, he is just exhausted from tryharding/ focussing. Maybe they should play some arams in between?
He does know they're troll, he just can't help himself because he's used to making content. On his stream he dies so much just for entertainment, you can see it on his face, he loves it when he trolls in solo q but actually feels bad when he trolls his LR teammates
Can’t wait for what LS is gonna say about ur opinion on coaches…cuz ngl bwipo is 100% in the right. And obviously if ur a coach going in with the mindset that a coach can only do so much then ur looking to throw ur team under the bus as soon as you get the chance to push the downfall off urself. In any sport the coach will always say “it’s not you who lost to them I did. Players can only lose to other players. But coaches lose the games” It’s a bad mindset to have as a coach cuz u will be looking to blame. And that’s how you get fired real quick ngl
Do you mean caedrel has more or less? Because game knowledge wise I think caedrel has a lot more than bwipo. Skill and game knowledge are completely different things. There’s a reason why lcs and Lec can never do shit against LPL and lck. It’s not because they aren’t mechanically gifted it’s just they get out macro and micro into the shadow realm. Caedrel streams literally became famous because of his game knowledge and takes within the game. 400k of us tune into his streams not just because he’s funny but also because he really impress us with talking about what should happen and why it is happening and where it should be happening within a game. And being a caster needs a lot of game knowledge… no ones gonna watch you casting if you don’t know tf your talking about. A great example is kitty. No flame but she has no idea tf she is talking about in the LPL casting so she got sent home to home cast and no one watches her
Do you guys think Baus style will win in pro play? I like watching him play but in pro play idk if it’ll work because people are actually communicating and they group which he clearly doesn’t do well.
But then again idk what they’re playing for. Against other streamer teams and maybe bot tier EU/NA they’ll win but against the Asian teams they’re getting clapped.
lck and lpl teams punish this kind of style really well, it will be hard to do this every game. Maybe game 1 they do it, if it didnt work maybe just go normally next games.
Most of the pro teams in LEC/LCS are boosted, past few years if you compare it to the peak... so if baus wins map by pushing turrets, then joins teamfighs (and we know he can carry in teamfights) then I think they can win 75% of late games... but they have to not INT too hard in early game
Baus is doing nice shotcallign, but they allways ignore baus, i am not fanboying baus, i know he has some problems, but he only talks when he knows what hes saying, and they keep ignoring him
i know it isnt the draft because when i say the game is based on champ select not skill people say i am wrong so its 100% not the draft because that would mean i am right...even though after calling me wrong all people do on this dog shit game is complain about w/e champ they are against being broken and that is the only reason they are losing...but no i am the one that is wrong definitely
"aurora no ult, maybe this information is enough to fight on grubs" is like saying "karthus no Q, maybe this information is enough to fight on grubs" i think you guys are lying to yourselves, thinking you accomplish anything with these micro analyses.
Crownie need to stfu and baus need to talk a lil bit more about what hes doing and if he have a move in the head. Nemesis needs to be the leading captain of the team and rekkles is goated at tracking summs timing and map timing
if baus carries, i would be ok with it but if he doesn't even play carry champ and does this, I am flaming him all day, his whole stick is that he farms despite dying, that's hella annoying to play with when you need him in a fight but he's farming or dead
@@Gurpreet-sv5zg "dog players" and it's pro team scrims Okay boss. and they're in the learning and building synergy phase, they are at their weakest right now and will only become better from here
Watching this I can really feel the lack of a shotcaller.
Cadeel was huge driving force in macro play. He might have been worse as a support compared to reckless but his shot calling made up for it
i think this will come in time. the boys entered LR with Caedrel as the shotcaller, so its obvious that they wont have a shotcaller anymore once he leaves (as a participating player). eventually they'll appoint one or two members as a shotcaller and that gap is covered.
@@highjumpkick999 Yeah and its a team of players that havent been on a team ever or havent been on a team in a long time (other than Rekkles) so they need to just work on it and learn at their pace. I think they got this as a team and Im hyped for them.
@@highjumpkick999 Isn't he coaching though? I'm not too familiar with pro teams and how they operate but isnt he allowed to be in voice comms during the matches?
@@ash9424 no at least not for league
I like that Rekkles is very vocal about sums, utility, spells etc.
But they got no shotcaller for the map anymore
Sally was the scapegoat for anything that went wrong bc Caedrel could laugh anything off and it helped with vibes
also because he made baus look like a consistent player.
I love how Caedrel cheers them up when they lose and gets very critical when they win
@@eVill420not a single other player is triple-quadra killing solo in this team. Absolute hater
@@brandonmandrell889 They never called Baus bad. Baus is great, but he's the definition of inconsistent. Yes, he seems to have the highest highs on the team, but he also has by FAR the lowest lows. *Peak* inconsistency.
@@simone8172 being either worst or best is consistency.
Baus is like the Beatles of macro. He was never really taught what to do and they just kinda fuck around and do something genius every so often
Lmaoooooo
That's not true, 2 members knew how to play instruments and taught the other 2. They weren't strong in music theory but that's not unusual for artists. They didn't just fuck around and make Hey Jude.
No baus fanboy
I think Baus was doing really really good with you on the team because you were almost forcing him to comm and you had an eye on him. In the scrims yeaterday he was so quiet and started falling into old patterns, like not tping for that fight which he 100% should have.
He is genuinely one of yhe most gifted league players to touch the game but he constantly lets himself down with greed and solo play. Case in point, in the nno final he did the absolutely godly escape from the 3 man gank. Amazing right? No, because yhen he went back to the wave to greed for 3 ranged creeps and died, completely ruining it.
He needs restraint, Caedral i would honestly get him a session with Alois to review one of the games and go into the detail. Alois has been vod reviewing the games and everytime he makes a point i think "damn i wish baus would hear this"
Exactly.
Most gifted lmao
He is not selfish, he is unsure on how to contribute to the team.
He buy them time, but they have no "plan", so without a plan to USE that tempo, tempo become worthless.
Bauss didn't do as poorly as many people said thie day, some solo death were bad, but many of his move were amazing, just unexploited by the team sadly...
@@studentpilotx one of, and I completely stand by that
@@Masterpouya I never said he was selfish. Baus is my favourite league content creator and I've seen him grow so much at LR already. I just noticed in the scrims yesterday that he slipped a lot in terms of Comms and teamwork
I think Simons soloque style for making good but selfish plays on the map transfers to pro play surprisingly well. Surprising 9 players at once. edit. Didnt know Bwipo was irl challenger coach XD
Kida but most his deaths are still completely unnecessary and achieve nothing. Most games only two or three of his 8+ deaths are good.
@@crycrcfyhf8862 What do you mean by "most games" ... they win most games with Baus having good KDA.
One bad scrim for Baus and ppl are writing him off. By the looks of it he had introvert / low energy mood that day
Why Are you calling him Simon? Are you his friend or What?
@@Argordeushe has multiple completely pointless and bad timed deaths basically every game. Not saying he doesn’t do well overall/later in the game tho.
@@crycrcfyhf8862I wouldn't say pointless, but some are definitely not worth it
i think what is unsaid most in the comment section and after ceadrel posted his talk with rekless that rekless was scared, not familiar with the team... so he did not talk or come on as a leader playing with LCK even tear 2 years the man knows macro. I think in time rekless will lead the team.
Keep an eye on baus though we will see a man redefine toplane BAUS is crazy good!!!
I think he needs to figure out how to handle scenarios where 1.) He's losing a 1v1 side in the mid game and can't push the lane & 2.) How to contribute late when he's not the main carry. Obviously he plays to scale and is always up CS and wants to convert that to pressure but when the enemy team can hold him with 1 champion or he's getting picked before late game team fights he has to have the map awareness and foresight to know when it's a "group" game. When he can't 1v2 (or 1v1) he starts to run it. I think he can definitely sort it out.
Yeah, its insane how much potential Baus have
@@KeyaruArtproblem is that if he changes his retardation of the gameplay he may lose what got him high elo in the first place .. whatever that was
The team looked uncertain on how to use the map advantage that he gave them. Caedrel was worse mechanically but knew how to use that advantage properly.
I mean Baus also was communicating a lot less. There was less cohesive communication in general. Also in their last set of scrims he fed tf out of fiora lmao
@@FrostySnowman334 Its potent fiora and nemesis also completely threw vs fiora, stating he didnt know his R could be parried by fiora XD
@@tusda179 idk if you watched the game but Baus would literally die for no reason during lane phase 💀 like multiple times
@@atifzaman8095 he doesn’t usually die on purpose to the enemy. He’ll try his best to execute, or die once or twice to reset his bounty. And he’ll usually only do that after proxy farming waves and getting a few plates. He was just taking poor trades and losing CS vs fiora
@ bruh I KNOW that. But there is a DIFFERENCE between GOOD deaths and BAD deaths. He was dying while not getting the wave, and not having it bounce back to his tower. Did you watch the fiora game? Usually his deaths allow him to get a lead which allows him to be a strong side laner mid-late. He could NOT match fiora because he FED her. He was NOT having good deaths that game
Ready for cadrel to start counting the number of words baus says each game
I've only seen highlights but it seemed that comms weren't as clear as when you were playing with respect to what the is the aim for the next minute/play
They played two scrims with Rekkless but played 3 weeks of games with Caedrel, it will take time and sadly there hasn't been enough time before the Redbull tournament. I expect them to get macro outplayed with maybe some highlights.
Bwipo definitely mentioned how the team just weren't making plans and such. It was regular that Varus has mid prio and just no one is trying to do anything off of it.
Before LR, only thing i know about Baus was his sion inting playstyle. Never really watch Baus before but now im slowly becoming a fan for his personality. But i have to say with no "baus's fan" filter. Baus needs to work on comm A LOT. Some simple sums/ults timer are definitely easy to call after a fight. But sometimes he just doesnt call it not sure why.
Too focused on his own shit.
He's played soloq to an audience for thousands and thousands of games, he's just seriously not used to comms yet
Yeah like that guy said, I think he’s just so used to the solo queue aspect that when he’s recently introduced to a team, he’s not used to comming as much. I think he just needs time to adapt and he’ll be better.
Man building LETHALITY Sion in a pro setting is still just wild
Tank sion is trash tho
Tank Sion = not good
quite honestly makes a lot more sense in lane swaps though. Phase rush is really scary on a dive, and having ad on the tps back means u get to insta clear the wave a bit better which is the entire point
@@millionelectricvolts6117 Still better than lethality. You're more useful to the team.
@@blitzcrank4840you really aren't, people would just straight up ignores you and you can't do anything about it, you can argue that his job is to cc but even that is a stretch when sion has no cdr on tank build on top of them already being hard to hit. Like you can just search up the seires where he played against tolkin tank sion when sion was massive or just watch bwipo in world, it's really not that good.
I mean csacsi on poppy is insane
1:14 ok that was a good one
5:30 the biggest reason why shadowing syndra is good, is because you can have more control over your position if a fight breaks out. having to TP into a fight can be awkward with out any good wards.
13:20 poppy passive makes her tankier when she's low. might need to change runes or build path against her
i mean caedrel shotcalling is really missing. they gotta fix that asap
I'd gave it some time honestly. Rekkles is still trying to mesh in with the team and adjust while Los Ratones is also trying to adjust with the new supp coming in instead of Sally.
Hopefully rekkles can become more comfortable and be a confident igl
never been his strong-suit afaik. i think Neme or Crownie need to step up.
Rekkles gives great info and understands his role way better than Caedrel. Crownie was a main shotcaller for a strong part of his career (namely when he went to Worlds with BDS) and will speak more, like he did at the NNO finals.
With some work, this lineup has way more potential than with Caedrel in
@@OGKillerBee99 highly agree! Rekkles talks a lot about sums, ult cooldowns, positioning/movement of enemys. Thats his job and he does it. But he is not the macro play shot caller.
Yea but as a support in early game your rotations are also critical, so maybe here he should call his own shots depending on what players tell him they need kinda?
Like gameplan:
Early: Support Jgl Midlane keep track of jungle, know their positions and if they will be in a critical position in 30sec-1min and need a roam (whoever is free, midlane, sup or jgl)
midgame: all about crossmap/objectives so jgl top mid adc should call what to take where to rotate
lategame: engage players mark important chokes and pull trigger while calling out important targets, players with peel potential look for danger on damage dealers, only strong sidelane champion sidelane with tp up and know they are in danger
@@UpperMoon95 Yes but Rekkles doesn't want to be the shotcaller, that's why he left Fnatic, he was forced to be the shotcaller in G2 and that failed. He has stated multiple times in interviews that he doesn't want to be the igl. The only players in this team who can shotcall are jg and adc. Rekkles doesn't want to and Nemesis/Baus are clueless.
13:15 here and earlier in the game baus had solo kills on poppy but gave her E out of tower both times. i think if he runs to the tower and a bit perpendicular instead of away then she doesn't have the escape
we have to remember that baus is a soloque player, and he is a good one at that, so going into a team will be a learning curve for him, i hope caedrel and the team can help him more to learn the team side of the game and also make him a carry option, right now all i can see is baus being weakside and just proxy, but he can outplay 1v1 or 1v2 if he is slightly ahead, i hope he can have a good connection with jungle and support to push his advantages
I think if they Analyse their games together every time and get closer together as a team, this team will be insane even without Caedrels shotcalls
I think Crownie is the one giving the most information on the team, at least proactively. He focuses a lot on the enemy ADC and will often spam his team to make a play just to get the enemy ADC summoners a minute or 2 before a major objective. The problem is that he's on ADC and that's usually not a role that gets to observe the map as often and isn't as good at recognizing the strength of others. If Crownie has flash down, he approaches the fight as if it's a losing one, which I whole-heartedly understand.
Nemesis always starts off making calls, but as soon as a call is ignored, he stops making calls for the rest of the game. Again, understandable, it is very frustrating and he has recognized that to be a flaw in himself as well.
Velja is a completely different beast when he's on comfort picks vs filling in a role that his team needs. When he's on point, every play this guy goes for is a winning one. He doesn't shot call a lot, but he is almost always the one asking what the team is planning to do a minute before it happens and reminding them to make a call.
Baus just does Baus things, but it is so evident that Caedral is 100% right in this clip. He very often forgets to call out key ultimates or summoners. He recognizes tempo advantages on the map but does not communicate it. Things just fall into place and his team could benefit so much more if they knew what he was going to be doing beforehand.
Rekkles I think is the one who needs to step up the most and make the calls. I think he's the most aware of how strong his team is at any given moment. I think the skill that should be built upon the most with him is, most of his team give out a lot of information during the game (except for Baus obviously XD), it has to be up to him to evaluate that information and orchestrate shotcalls for the next 3-5 minutes.
All in all, they have superstars in every role. They just need a strong igl who can take advantage of that. The comms are there, but it's basically just background noise if there's no one forcing plays with those in mind. Los Ratones single-handedly got me interested in western league of legends again after over 10 years, and I think a lot of people share that sentiment.
Its crazy how things change in a month, hes doing great now🎉
The fact that baus ends with a gold lead every game should kinda show that maybe the math is on his side, but my man does need to speak up to his team
5:20 baus thinks going opposite side with TP advantage is the way to go.
the team is so mechanically gifted on top of that they all know how to play the game they just havent played enough together and need better communication
I want to learn baus how tempo works, 2 minutes later... ok baus knows XD
7:20 Baus always plays like this in solo Q actually Caedral ahaha. It's Neme who's bad with sidelanes imo. I hope you guys see this tbh
There are definitely times Baus forgets to call out flashes or ults. Probably a habit from solo play.
maybe caedrel isnt as good as rekkles but he was definitely the backbone of the team
When Velja asked what's the plan?? sums up the lack of shotcalling since Pedro left. They'll fix that asap.
allergic to being alive in games - pedro
Baus: 'I am rally weak'
*kills botlane 1v2*
xD
There is a definitely a lack of leadership in your absence. The plays were less orchestrated and thought out imo.
I hope reckles will share more about his thought processes from his time in LCKa and everyone will listen and correct accordingly.
Obviously nice to not have a 1-10 nautilus tho 😂
0-5 top laner 1v2s enemy botlane
10cs/min + 5 plates toplaner -> 1v2 ennemy botlane would be a more acurated statement for the very same situation :)
Sally knew how to pilot the baus like a mech but when they needed someone to slap his ass and call him Sally he vanished :(
I have watched several scrim and those time Baus calls for something all just ignored him. There was just game where K'sante top was low health multiple times and every time enemy member came and Baus died. They lost that game.
I think if velja has a bit more confidence and is a bit louder he could shot call pretty good for this team but generally its better like bwipo said to bausffs to ask the questions if your not sure but try be as quick about it as possible, if two people agree then you all commit to it etc
Draft gap with the poppy
-Aurora no ult-
Not my lane not my problems
Baus doesn't say anything because he isn't comfortable playing with other people still even though they're so deep into it now. He's still adjusting and doesn't feel confident he can speak up since everyone calls him an inter..
pretty much expected. cant build teamwork in one day. everyone still adjusting someone will step up to be the main shout caller to process whats next on macros
What I don't get are the plays like the one Velja says, Leona bot... Leona bot cara Baus, so Baus e forwards and dies, like WTF
I don't think he was listening. That's why Caedrel always yelled at him to back off repeatedly.
As Caedrel said, they just "throw" information onto the vocal. Nothing with real intent or "level of importance".
When Neme is saying to baus something he says "Baus! Ori no flash ! Ori no flash Baus !" -> This info is clear and efficient.
Or Neme alraedy shout in the finals "Baus ! They are coming for you !! 3 top Baus !"
-> Of course he hears that.
But "Leona bot" is so dull... It's the same voiceline as "I'm b" or e"I need 50g"
He e forward is to proc phase rush and ensure q slow on sylas, which isn't bad at that position. He get caught just because he is always greedy as fuck.
@@rockmanzexo And being greedy to the limit you can survive barely is one of the difference between a safe diamond player and a proficient challenger player.
The higher the elo, the more the very small details can impact the game.
@@Masterpouyain this case i would say it is baus level of greediness rather than challenger level. Leona shows in bot jungle and his teammates go top side. Obviously he should play safe a bit as weakside but he said fuck it and go for a plate.
But I enjoy watching this play style because it is very fun to watch lol.
If Baus is sick and dying in-game he caught it from your support games Caedral O.O
Without Caedrel the team became Solo que mess. Also Baus is strange one. His skill is near the top level but he choses to play weaker champions putting himself in disadvantage.
What champs he chooses over stronger ones then?
He only plays solo que champs.
Gragas is the only one he picked up recently and he builds full dmg. Instead of tanky ap bruiser.
i get the same feel from baus as when he has too much lp and messes around to lose some on purpose
Baus needs to 1v1 this guy and expose him
I think I see what Cadrel isn't seeing. Often baus has tempo, and then the team wants to do something and just backs off and wastes bauss tempo. It doesn't matter if he dies, but it would have been better to die/tower dive in mid. The team makes baus waste his tempo, they also don't put pressure on the map so baus can push/pot pressure in sidelane. It's not about being safe, it's about superior macro. Caedrel lacks macro vision. He needs to play some high level HOTS before he can truely excell at league.
I'm pretty sure that he had to take the FFS out of his name when he was a sub on a pro team. Riot wouldn't let him keep "offensive language"
I feel like the coaching shouldnt only focus on Baus tho, maybe hebcoulr also advise rekky on shotcalling
I feel like Caedrel became Faker of LR, having talented individuals and him guiding them to victory. Then after he's gone they all inted
Caedrel is better than Faker.
They will re-calibrate.
He don't shotcall "live" anymore, but he will teach them and they are gonna be AMAZING.
Well fakers team won 0 games without him and it wasn't even close they at least won some here
coach is playing rts
This is like when faker had to take a break, nooo?
shoegaze mentioned!!!
if sion baus went top, botlane will get pushed
team would stack towards the herald and really not good on baus playstyle
aurora was the biggest problem for teamfights so once he knew aurora was botlane
and never came back to fight his sion, he went top easily.
it resulted in one bot crash and a top turret push.
baus mentality is really awesome, his only weakness is he keeps it to himself during the game in their team,
caedrel was correct for baus should tell them aurora used her ult or something.
I think baus also cares too much what viewers think and viewers dont know pro play well enough to encourage a new playstyle
5:20 and then does exactly that against T1
why bwipos head cant stop moving
ADHD
If bausis adhd is anything like mine, his problem isn't that he doesnt know that some of his plays are troll, he is just exhausted from tryharding/ focussing. Maybe they should play some arams in between?
He does know they're troll, he just can't help himself because he's used to making content. On his stream he dies so much just for entertainment, you can see it on his face, he loves it when he trolls in solo q but actually feels bad when he trolls his LR teammates
if caedrel can upgrade baus gamesense.... will anyone be able to beat him?
"he's not saying anything" that's what happens when you put soloq players into a team
it seems to me that they need to speak more, especialy baus, he says like 3 words in 10 minutes
Can’t wait for what LS is gonna say about ur opinion on coaches…cuz ngl bwipo is 100% in the right. And obviously if ur a coach going in with the mindset that a coach can only do so much then ur looking to throw ur team under the bus as soon as you get the chance to push the downfall off urself. In any sport the coach will always say “it’s not you who lost to them I did. Players can only lose to other players. But coaches lose the games” It’s a bad mindset to have as a coach cuz u will be looking to blame. And that’s how you get fired real quick ngl
How is Caedrel game knowledge even on the same level as Bwipo?
Do you mean caedrel has more or less? Because game knowledge wise I think caedrel has a lot more than bwipo. Skill and game knowledge are completely different things. There’s a reason why lcs and Lec can never do shit against LPL and lck. It’s not because they aren’t mechanically gifted it’s just they get out macro and micro into the shadow realm. Caedrel streams literally became famous because of his game knowledge and takes within the game. 400k of us tune into his streams not just because he’s funny but also because he really impress us with talking about what should happen and why it is happening and where it should be happening within a game. And being a caster needs a lot of game knowledge… no ones gonna watch you casting if you don’t know tf your talking about. A great example is kitty. No flame but she has no idea tf she is talking about in the LPL casting so she got sent home to home cast and no one watches her
@ id have to disagree. Both are pretty good on the subject tho
It's obvious that the Bauss has little to no experience of competitive play, you need to teach him
Bwipo is like Vladimir Kramnik for league. He is a legend but he is delusional and dumb.
He's not delusional nor dumb. He just always uses 1000 words where 100 would get the same point across.
i hope they get better, now that caedrel is just coach again, baus and the others dying too many times in a game more noticeable
Do you guys think Baus style will win in pro play? I like watching him play but in pro play idk if it’ll work because people are actually communicating and they group which he clearly doesn’t do well.
But then again idk what they’re playing for. Against other streamer teams and maybe bot tier EU/NA they’ll win but against the Asian teams they’re getting clapped.
@@PappiiKim123 They're definitely not planning to beat any LCK/LPL teams. Even LEC would be very very tough for them
The fact that they still wins with this big liability still shocked me
lck and lpl teams punish this kind of style really well, it will be hard to do this every game. Maybe game 1 they do it, if it didnt work maybe just go normally next games.
Most of the pro teams in LEC/LCS are boosted, past few years if you compare it to the peak... so if baus wins map by pushing turrets, then joins teamfighs (and we know he can carry in teamfights) then I think they can win 75% of late games... but they have to not INT too hard in early game
don't bully my streamer he's good believe me :(
First we Los Ratones
Baus losing against Vizicsacsi poppy. No need to be sad about it. Do you remember how many top tier players he clapped with that poppy?
Baus is doing nice shotcallign, but they allways ignore baus, i am not fanboying baus, i know he has some problems, but he only talks when he knows what hes saying, and they keep ignoring him
I’ve always said Baus is a good player but not a good team player. His communications are horrible for a team.
i know it isnt the draft because when i say the game is based on champ select not skill people say i am wrong so its 100% not the draft because that would mean i am right...even though after calling me wrong all people do on this dog shit game is complain about w/e champ they are against being broken and that is the only reason they are losing...but no i am the one that is wrong definitely
"aurora no ult, maybe this information is enough to fight on grubs" is like saying "karthus no Q, maybe this information is enough to fight on grubs"
i think you guys are lying to yourselves, thinking you accomplish anything with these micro analyses.
fnatic are the best XD
Sorry but Bwipo's claim is just arrogance, for a 25 year old.
Bwipo is unbearable now wtf
: D
The Glazing is unreal over this guy
Negative comments on every video from you is also unreal bud, go watch something else that doesn't increase your blood pressure like T1 videos perhaps
@@Schneizeeeeelfell for the rage bait bro
@@Schneizeeeeellook at the username
French - opinion discarded
@@andreas5341That's rude!
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Crownie need to stfu and baus need to talk a lil bit more about what hes doing and if he have a move in the head. Nemesis needs to be the leading captain of the team and rekkles is goated at tracking summs timing and map timing
FIRSTTTTTTTTT
if baus carries, i would be ok with it but if he doesn't even play carry champ and does this, I am flaming him all day, his whole stick is that he farms despite dying, that's hella annoying to play with when you need him in a fight but he's farming or dead
You dont understand the game at a high level but thats okay
@@SenatorDodo09 I mean he is losing against dog players. We can pretend this is "high level" to appease your brain :)
@@Gurpreet-sv5zg "dog players" and it's pro team scrims
Okay boss.
and they're in the learning and building synergy phase, they are at their weakest right now and will only become better from here
lol bwipo is cocky for a 3 - 2 loss against Gen-g? no wonder he went to LCS.
the guy wont go to a gym that champs go
He will do the EU classic - live off of one series to remain relevant. See 2019 G2.
Caedrel talks way too much, 1v1 Baus instead and then we can see who is talking
10:16 timing xdd