Yeah because those last 5 years of Kobe were soooooo good. Cat went out 17-65. 4 years later. LBJ gave them a chip and made them the most talked about team in the league.
@@dominicrigsby8547 Imma tell u a quick fact there are 3 teams who haven’t been to the Conf. Finals 5 who hasn’t been to the finals and 10 who never won a ring. Bron has did both in LA so to say is stunted is overdramatic to say it’s a little underwhelming might be the right one. I would’ve like to see him win at least one more ring but it’s not that easy
5:11 lonzo missed 2 years of basketball, Brandon Ingram’s own team doesn’t want to pay him , Julius randle is horrible playoff player and is a big red flag for contending teams . while losing kuzma and hart hurt , i would do the ad trade all over again and 10x over
Randle wouldn’t have to be the no. 1 in the playoffs, who’s to say Lonzo, Kuzma, or heart would get injured on the Lakers? That’s a weak argument. Who has developed aside Lebron? Pippen developed aside MJ, Pau is outspoken about how much Kobe helped him get better, but Kyrie is the closest thing Lebron has to either of those and he didn’t really develop alongside Bron, he stayed the same. Bron holds talent back, I’m sorry it’s the truth. All these players may not be where they want to be now, but seeing all their potentials and what they were able to achieve individually along their own paths it was clearly a bad decision and only proves that Lebron holds players and teams back.
@@NCOMBHOODIELol no the other guys right. Lebron definitely holds players back and really showed he was a bad leader with the young core. Not worth the trouble. He even holds AD back. Now AD would've been worth grabbing in free agency to replace Randle. Other than that the young core had serious depth. It definitely wasn't worth it for half a championship, two missed play off and multiple play ins just to get in.
@@NCOMBHOODIE Lol, I think we would've made a few changes to be a championship team. Like maybe get Kawaii instead of LeBron right after he won on the Raptors plus all that depth oh man. Kawaii doesn't deal with the Clipper curse so he's somewhat healthy. Also yeah it's a half a championship dude or like clearly an asterisk championship.
They won a ring thanks to Lebron and AD trade. If you look at all the pieces they traded to get AD, Josh Hart seems like the best piece and he is a role player. Lonzo Ball is perpetually injured, Brandon Ingram is on the trade block and Lakers actually signed Jaxson Hayes who was the 4rth lotto pick the Lakers gave up as part of the trade. Meanwhile Pelicans havent gotten to 2nd round even once since AD got traded pretty clear who won the trade.
Don’t get me wrong that history lesson is cool and all but he hasn’t done anything for us since the peak of Covid 🤷🏽♂️ I appreciate the championship he did bring. But at the same time lebron has also missed the playoffs more recently than he’s won us a championship. And didn’t exactly do us any favors demanding the front office to get rid of house for Westbrook or drafting bronny. I would rather trade and look to the future and have players who aren’t as demanding as opposed to fighting for a play in spot just to get our ass kicked by Denver again. Still impressive what he’s doing for his age for sure 💯 but in the grand scheme of things it’s not championship caliber and may not even be play-in caliber
@JuliusMartin-td6nj You act like the Lakers would have won a championship if Bron didnt bring in AD with him. Tell me how you think the core of Lonzo, Brandon Ingram and Josh Hart would have done instead? Would Lonzo and BI beat Denver and Jokic? You act like the Lakers would be world beaters today if Lebron didnt join lmao. Lakers even got Russell and Jaxson Hayes back so the reality is if Lebron didnt sign with the Lakers the Lakers would be even worse today as they would have no rings and only busts on their team.
A post prime lebron james lead team won't lose enough to get young talent in the draft, and can't win enough to win in the playoffs. He's now an average player
@roslolian11 the problem with what you’re saying is You’re speaking as a lebron fan first whereas I’m speaking as a Laker fan first . He did bring us a championship but at the same time that was 4-5 years ago. I don’t agree with the concept that they should hold on to someone for so long just because of what they did for us in the past. And while what he’s doing is still good, it’s not championship caliber. However I do realize what I’m saying is more than likely a waste of time on my end and it’s pretty much what I already said the first time around and given that if you weren’t able to comprehend what I said the first time around, I doubt this time will be much different
The issue is people expect teams in this period to win multiple championships in this era. No team can do it. The Bucks haven't even been back to the ECF since winning. Denver is panicking now to make moves because they got one title and that's really all they were going to get. This is Boston's last season to get a title. The Warriors is the only team that have been successful and they made a lot of changes to get it done each of those times. Teams change way too much. That Lakers core before LeBron was basically going to be a first round exit. Randle was already leaving. Ball would still have hus injury issues. The thing that really hurt the Lakers was the Westbrook trade. It depleted their roster when it wasnt necessary...
@KaiMcbride-i4v they haven't won anything since the bubble and that took a pandemic to win,they traded away their young players for him to have whatever he wants their in the hole deep with draft picks and they used the little picks they had to draft his son just because he wanted them on the team it's clear he/the Lakers aren't serious about winning they just want attention
as opposed to other teams that dont have him and also dont win rings? lol Its been years since Lebron left Miami and Cleveland check out how much they've accomplished since he left.
Fuck you mean "Galactus" 😂 He's the only athlete in Pro Sports to win a Ring & FMVP for 3 different Franchises, you goof ball. Everywhere he's been, he's won.
AD had a career year last year. He started off in MVP talks this year. Only delusional LeBron fans will continue to say yall need a big man. The problem is LeBron and it's time for him to retire. But him and his fans just goin to continue to blame everything and everybody else while continuing to live in a fake world thinking a 40 year old player who doesn't play defense isn't the problem. Rating will go up in the NBA when LeBron retires because his fans (who never really watched basketball) going to retire with him and also a lot of media people who only talks to keep the focus on LeBron who is 40 years old, while it's way better players now.
@@wendellnevels8153my guy even with AD playing the 5 and having great years the lakers defense is still horrible. LeBron James or not Anthony Davis still needs to play next to a defensive center
seeing where they are now, stunt #1 wasnt really a stunt. kuzma is not a player to build around, ingram never learned defense and lonzo's knees/lower extremities were cooked. hart was also not someone to build around
I count the Bubble Chip. I don’t discount champions, but LA was a bit lucky to win that one. The conditions were just right for them, particularly AD and Bron, as they were able to stay healthy. There were other reasons as well, but LA should have kept their core and not trade them for Westbrook.
Does ppl forget the Lakers didn't trade anybody to get BRON , they traded everybody to get AD and the Lakers wouldn't of won another chip without both of them
In Lebron’s 5 years in LA he won a title, and went to another WCF. That success is better than the entire histories of more than half of the teams in the league. I know things are rough now but the Lakers will get another superstar when Lebron leaves and win again!
I mean when Bynum developed while Kobe was there and wasn’t pawned off, even when Pau got to the lakers and floundered in the playoffs Kobe pushed him to be greater.
False. ..outside of the center position, most of the legendary figures in lakers history were drafted......the only reason people saying lakers are win now is because lebron on the team.....after Shaq was traded, the Lakers went thru a 5 year rebuild before winning their next championship
@@scorpionJB most legendary figures of any franchise were drafted there. You can say that about almost any team..Lakers are known for getting big free agents and making trades for stars.
So In the 6 full seasons lebron has been on the Lakers they have made the playoffs 4×, wcf 2×, nba finals 1×, 1chip, since 2018-19 the only teams that have that same resume are the Celtics, nuggets, warriors, bucks, heat, mavs. But somehow lebron has stunted the lakers growth😂😂😂 Bos( 4 ecf, 2f, 1 chip, 6 playoff app) Mia( 3 ecf, 2f, 0 chip, 5 playoff app) Mil( 2 ecf, 1f, 1 chip, 6 playoff app) Lal( 2 wcf, 1f, 1 chip, 4 playoff app) Den( 2 wcf, 1f, 1 chip, 6 playoff app) Gsw( 2 wcf, 2f, 1chip, 3 playoff app) Mav( 2 wcf, 1f, 0 chips, 4 playoff app)
If it wasn't gonna be born it was gonna be Kawhi and PG. and we seen how that went. LeBron saved the franchise and got us a ring. a lot of things came into play on why we are here.as a Lakers fan I don't regret Lakers signing LeBron and Trading for AD. Just sucks we couldn't have a parade.
If a prime Wilt Chamberlain can get traded, anyone can get traded, meaning the Lakers should have traded LeBron 2 seasons ago, but they went with LeBron too long, and the Lakers and their fan's(myself included) are about to suffer some tough years with no draft picks
You mean the Lakers saved Davis from the pels? I mean no one wants to play with the pels, they all leavin that team, from CP3, Holiday, Davis, Cousins and probably Zion and Ingram might leave too!
Honestly if the Lakers never considered going after lebron , they would've had a championship contender team , Brooke Lopez, kcp , Julius Randall, jordan Clarkson, lonzo ball , Kyle kuzma , Brandon ingrim , Larry Nance Jr, and Alex Caruso
(+30 Year LA Lakers Fan) Appreciate your point of view on this. I know you will be honest 💯 but soon Lebron will join the Timberwolves in a swap for Julius Randle.
Maybe you should do a stunted growth on the NY Jets, no playoffs since 2010, 0-4 in AFC Championship Games, no winning season since 2015 and never having a real QB with a positive winning record and/or TD-INT ratio with this franchise.
He won them a championship, but after the Westbrook trade everything stunted and it’s only been downhill since 2021. Lakers were also in an awful spot the last 4ish years of Kobe’s career to so it seems to be history repeating itself. Bad player moves and terrible front office decisions put the lakers where they are now.
@roslolian11 I don't understand. Lebron is supposed to be this all time great that makes the players around him better. If that's the case he should have helped develop those guys and build a sustainable culture in LA. Instead he traded them all for AD who's basically wasting his prime in LA. The bubble championship was nearly five years ago. What have the Lakers done since?
I'm surprised you didn't mention Bron tendency to want a Yes Man as coach that prevents The Lakers organization from hiring a top coach with actual coaching presence.
The core of Lonzo (sat out 3 seasons), Julius Randle (is not Anthony Davis), Ingram (not my cup of tea) would've been a waste. Losing Malik Monk, KCP and Kuzma were more devastating. I still don't understand why they had it in for Kuzma So don't make the earlier core seem like the Lakers would've been better off
We were never excited about Lebron coming to the Lakers. Remember Kobe had to lecture us to accept LBJ, lol. Its because we already knew what he would do to the franchise. All the drama and loss of depth/ assets for a half a championship. Our skepticism was validated. I was way more into watching the young core enjoy each other, play hard every game and begin to figure things out.
Both at first yes with the bubble title to keep people happy but sadly that's it bad drafts AD not health and motovation gone also the organiztion did not get ypung tallent to develope to win a chip.
@@Rustyblackleford Stunt when Lebron gave them a ring? The stunt would have been Lakers core of Lonzo, Brandon Ingram and Josh Hart if Lebron didnt sign with the Lakers.
@roslolian11 why do you LeBron fans get upset if we bring up a truth? It is a system, no shade, it is what it is. But, I'm glad he gave is the only ring we EVER had...
It's not hating if it's the truth. The problem is that y'all think that you have to praise everything someone does if you're a fan, when you can also criticize the areas that deserve criticism.
@@jerrypastrana8176 nah its hate😂😂. No facts, half truths with no context. In the 6 full seasons lebron has been on the Lakers they have made the playoffs 4×, wcf 2×, nba finals 1×, 1chip, since 2018-19 the only teams that have that same resume are the Celtics, nuggets, warriors, bucks, heat, mavs Bos( 4 ecf, 2f, 1 chip, 6 playoff app) Mia( 3 ecf, 2f, 0 chip, 5 playoff app) Mil( 2 ecf, 1f, 1 chip, 6 playoff app) Lal( 2 wcf, 1f, 1 chip, 4 playoff app) Den( 2 wcf, 1f, 1 chip, 6 playoff app) Gsw( 2 wcf, 2f, 1chip, 3 playoff app) Mav( 2 wcf, 1f, 0 chips, 4 playoff app)
AD has never played a full season of 82 games. Also you casually omitted that he only played in 60, 36, 40 and 56 games since joining the Lakers prior to last two seasons you selectively chose to cite. In 13 seasons, AD has only played over 70 games three times. 😂 But go ahead and tell me he’s not injury prone.
5:39 while i agree with your perception on the nuggets and warriors being more patient with young players , they didn’t have a 35 year old superstar wen their championship window was upon them . the lakers had to speed up because lebron didn’t have time to wait and see if Brandon Ingram could be a number 2 or if lonzo ball could be what Lavar said he was going to be
Bron been tryna to give AD the keys ever since he sat foot in LA and AD just stays hurt and doesn’t play like he should be the leader so of course Bron gotta do what he has to do. That ain’t his fault
If course he stunted it. If lebron is on your team, your pretty much guaranteed not to have a top 10 pick because you're not going to lose enough. It's been like that since his 2nd year in the NBA
The only thing Lebron did to mortgage our future was play a role in the Westbrook trade. The forever injured Lonzo Ball & Ingram wasn't gonna win us a chip. & if it wasn't for the Westbrook trade & AD getting hurt in round 2 of 2021 against Phoenix, we'd probably have 2 more chips 🟣🟡🏆also Magic trading Zubac to the Clippers for Mike Muscala was another stupid move
Sucks when your home town team IS THE NBA. Time to trade both AD & LBJ 1 & 2. Put the ball into AR & DK hands. Been to both forum & staples games. All the way back 😉
As a Knicks fan, this is a stretch. Any GM wouldve made the AD trade. The Pelicans are probably closer to what the Lakers woudlve been and further removed from any championship contender. Also, you didnt mention the Lakers pursuit of Kawahi or Paul George, both anticipated moves helped clear the caps for a monster big 3. Lebron didn't cripple the Lakers, yall won a 'chip regardless of how anyone attempts to downgrade, remained relevant, Bronny's jersey has made up for any Euro stash pick, and the Lakers coaching decisions were questionable, at best. Think about this, Lebron coaches were Luke Walton and JJ Reddick.... yet you blame HIM? 😂 The Lakers were one of the worst teams before Lebron arrived!
People bring this topic up but it’s easy it’s ownership and management that’s always been the problem just like the Dallas cowboys but people hate bron so it’s just to say bron
Pelinka and Jennie Buss are stunting the Lakers. The Lakers were trash before LeBron, couldn’t get one person to play with Kobe. Literally was taking max contracts so they couldn’t bring another star. Made terrible draft choices, and they ran off Magic Johnson of all people from the franchise. They broke up a championship team for absolutely no reason, and have never attempted to put a team together since. Continued to miss vital trades, wouldn’t get legit coach. Refused to make any moves to get any vital players. Refuse to actually get a center, made a horrible decision in Westbrook because they were desperate for anything. The franchise is dis functional from the top down, and they will go right back obscurity after LeBron leaves.
So let me get this straight, under Lebron, Lakers won NBA championships(bubble or not) won first NBA cup (hate it or love it) loss to the defending champs in the playoffs all while yes being a somewhat dysfunctional organization. Any other team not named Warriors, Celtics, or Nuggets would want that resume. Yes, moving forward there are challenges, but that’s the NBA, the game is continually evolving and LeBron has won throughout all of it
This is what bron ALWAYS does he jumps ship drains the team of their resources (young stars and money) then when he realizes it’s over he jumps to the next ship and gets all those coaches fired while he’s at it
No matter how you slice it he saved the franchise. Anyone who knows ball knows the utter shit show the lakers were for the last four years of Kobe’s career onward. The only redeeming season was 2016 because he retired so they had a narrative to run to drum up buzz. They’ve seen more relative success including playoff (appearances and a championship) in Brons stint than most organizations have in the last decade lmfaooo. The attendance and viewership increased as well as jersey sales and notoriety. But because it’s Bron they only will acknowledge that he “should have won more” when his coaching suggestions were repeatedly rejected as well as personnel changes, and they blew the championship cor thanks to pelinka as noted by multiple players on the 2020 team. Tis the cycle of life 😂
I forgot this dude a bron hater lol. He got them a chip + those players traded never became anything championship worthy. Some teams don’t even have a ring lol
this shit is hilarious to me bc a lebron team the only team someone finna make a video about. the lakers traded assets to win a title and make two conf. finals. something most teams do to try to get that one. and then they try and recoup their assets later. the clippers gave up everything for Kawhi & PG and it resulted in 1 conf. finals where they got bust by an inferior team although Kawhi was injured. Knicks gave up everything to try and do the same, nets gave up everything for the big 3, suns gave up everything to do it with Beal & KD, timberwolves did it for Rudy & Warriors are most likely going to do it within the next month or so. yet the only team in the entire group that won a title is the lakers and LA still has more drafted equity and even young guys than half those teams. it’s only cuz it’s LeBron James and the Lakers that its looked at as a failure bc they didn’t win two rings
The Lakers organization died the same day Dr buss did we just didn't know it, LeBron delivered on a championship since then Rob palinka and Jeannie Kobe friends are making sure lebron never wins anything else that's why he blew up the championship team Jeannie's drafting Lonzo ball over Jayson Tatum and not hiring tylue and taking DELO instead of Kyrie she has ruined this franchise but being a woman she gets a pass from the media and lebron gets all of the blame 😡
He stunted the Lakers and has totally embarrassed them they now look like a pathetic franchise. Especially since the “championship” was in 2020 when half the league took the year off and it was a short season. 2020 didn’t count we all know it
The lakers were booty before LeBron he brought them a banner they have been relevant what bugs me so much the fact the lakers besides being so valuable are cheap and dont spend in the luxury tax like the Celtics and warriors have spent so much more obtaining and retaining talent the fact the lakers have a family ownership that depends on the teams income versus other owners that are billionaires and willingness to spend big money the lakers without bron and ad would have been the pelicans with no Zion none young talent would have been close to take us anywhere Ingram the best player has most execs questioning what he is worth you expect me to believe paying Ingram so Randle we would be a player in the NBA the major mistake was Westbrook and going away from what always worked With bron defensive guys and shooting letting go of Caruso and Malik monk becuase they are cheap it’s been the same ol lake shit show they been since the beginning of the 2010s at least they hung another banner and at the worst if the lakers were smart could trade bron for young talent and draft picks and get off Anthony Davis easy he is a top 5 NBA guy for a load similar or more they traded for so the video should be how the lakers stunted LeBron and Ad u mean ad played 95 out of a 100 games and bron been there enough the problem is they need those guys to be there every night to compete becuase they have no depth but it’s the lakers fault not LeBron considering he brought Ad and a title they still have value and I feel the lakers have never gone all in on bron it’s been a major disappointment that deserves a deep dive
This is shouldn't be a video if you already know the answer to the question....LeBron stunned the Lakers future
And stunted
LOL the Pelicans havent exactly had a bright future getting the pieces Lakers gave them
They won a chip with bron something they wouldn't of won without him
Yeah because those last 5 years of Kobe were soooooo good. Cat went out 17-65. 4 years later. LBJ gave them a chip and made them the most talked about team in the league.
@@dominicrigsby8547 Imma tell u a quick fact there are 3 teams who haven’t been to the Conf. Finals 5 who hasn’t been to the finals and 10 who never won a ring. Bron has did both in LA so to say is stunted is overdramatic to say it’s a little underwhelming might be the right one. I would’ve like to see him win at least one more ring but it’s not that easy
It's great to see you broadening your focus from players to teams and other subjects.
That’s JC Stunted is the greatest!!!
I like keeping it about stunted growth but yes expand to teams, coaches etc!
5:11 lonzo missed 2 years of basketball, Brandon Ingram’s own team doesn’t want to pay him , Julius randle is horrible playoff player and is a big red flag for contending teams . while losing kuzma and hart hurt , i would do the ad trade all over again and 10x over
Randle wouldn’t have to be the no. 1 in the playoffs, who’s to say Lonzo, Kuzma, or heart would get injured on the Lakers? That’s a weak argument. Who has developed aside Lebron? Pippen developed aside MJ, Pau is outspoken about how much Kobe helped him get better, but Kyrie is the closest thing Lebron has to either of those and he didn’t really develop alongside Bron, he stayed the same. Bron holds talent back, I’m sorry it’s the truth. All these players may not be where they want to be now, but seeing all their potentials and what they were able to achieve individually along their own paths it was clearly a bad decision and only proves that Lebron holds players and teams back.
@ you the only one that had a problem with the comment so that means i made a strong argument 😂
@@NCOMBHOODIELol no the other guys right. Lebron definitely holds players back and really showed he was a bad leader with the young core. Not worth the trouble. He even holds AD back. Now AD would've been worth grabbing in free agency to replace Randle. Other than that the young core had serious depth. It definitely wasn't worth it for half a championship, two missed play off and multiple play ins just to get in.
@ there’s no such thing as a “half championship” and depth to do what ? win a title ? 😂😂😂
@@NCOMBHOODIE Lol, I think we would've made a few changes to be a championship team. Like maybe get Kawaii instead of LeBron right after he won on the Raptors plus all that depth oh man. Kawaii doesn't deal with the Clipper curse so he's somewhat healthy. Also yeah it's a half a championship dude or like clearly an asterisk championship.
They won a ring thanks to Lebron and AD trade. If you look at all the pieces they traded to get AD, Josh Hart seems like the best piece and he is a role player. Lonzo Ball is perpetually injured, Brandon Ingram is on the trade block and Lakers actually signed Jaxson Hayes who was the 4rth lotto pick the Lakers gave up as part of the trade.
Meanwhile Pelicans havent gotten to 2nd round even once since AD got traded pretty clear who won the trade.
Don’t get me wrong that history lesson is cool and all but he hasn’t done anything for us since the peak of Covid 🤷🏽♂️
I appreciate the championship he did bring. But at the same time lebron has also missed the playoffs more recently than he’s won us a championship. And didn’t exactly do us any favors demanding the front office to get rid of house for Westbrook or drafting bronny.
I would rather trade and look to the future and have players who aren’t as demanding as opposed to fighting for a play in spot just to get our ass kicked by Denver again.
Still impressive what he’s doing for his age for sure 💯 but in the grand scheme of things it’s not championship caliber and may not even be play-in caliber
@JuliusMartin-td6nj You act like the Lakers would have won a championship if Bron didnt bring in AD with him. Tell me how you think the core of Lonzo, Brandon Ingram and Josh Hart would have done instead?
Would Lonzo and BI beat Denver and Jokic? You act like the Lakers would be world beaters today if Lebron didnt join lmao. Lakers even got Russell and Jaxson Hayes back so the reality is if Lebron didnt sign with the Lakers the Lakers would be even worse today as they would have no rings and only busts on their team.
@@JuliusMartin-td6njgood assessment
A post prime lebron james lead team won't lose enough to get young talent in the draft, and can't win enough to win in the playoffs. He's now an average player
@roslolian11 the problem with what you’re saying is You’re speaking as a lebron fan first whereas I’m speaking as a Laker fan first . He did bring us a championship but at the same time that was 4-5 years ago. I don’t agree with the concept that they should hold on to someone for so long just because of what they did for us in the past. And while what he’s doing is still good, it’s not championship caliber. However I do realize what I’m saying is more than likely a waste of time on my end and it’s pretty much what I already said the first time around and given that if you weren’t able to comprehend what I said the first time around, I doubt this time will be much different
The issue is people expect teams in this period to win multiple championships in this era. No team can do it. The Bucks haven't even been back to the ECF since winning. Denver is panicking now to make moves because they got one title and that's really all they were going to get. This is Boston's last season to get a title. The Warriors is the only team that have been successful and they made a lot of changes to get it done each of those times. Teams change way too much. That Lakers core before LeBron was basically going to be a first round exit. Randle was already leaving. Ball would still have hus injury issues. The thing that really hurt the Lakers was the Westbrook trade. It depleted their roster when it wasnt necessary...
He def stunted their growth
Explain how
@KaiMcbride-i4v they haven't won anything since the bubble and that took a pandemic to win,they traded away their young players for him to have whatever he wants their in the hole deep with draft picks and they used the little picks they had to draft his son just because he wanted them on the team it's clear he/the Lakers aren't serious about winning they just want attention
@@NORTH_CAROLINAall those young players are absolutely dog shit today
Davis’ career reminds me of Ralph Sampson’s.
This isn’t just the Lakers but every place he goes it’s the same shit. He’s the Galactus of the NBA.
as opposed to other teams that dont have him and also dont win rings? lol Its been years since Lebron left Miami and Cleveland check out how much they've accomplished since he left.
What have those teams did since he left I'll wait
Fuck you mean "Galactus" 😂
He's the only athlete in Pro Sports to win a Ring & FMVP for 3 different Franchises, you goof ball. Everywhere he's been, he's won.
Also trading Zubac was one of moves that still has a crippling effect because they are still in search of big man down low.
AD had a career year last year. He started off in MVP talks this year. Only delusional LeBron fans will continue to say yall need a big man. The problem is LeBron and it's time for him to retire. But him and his fans just goin to continue to blame everything and everybody else while continuing to live in a fake world thinking a 40 year old player who doesn't play defense isn't the problem. Rating will go up in the NBA when LeBron retires because his fans (who never really watched basketball) going to retire with him and also a lot of media people who only talks to keep the focus on LeBron who is 40 years old, while it's way better players now.
@wendellnevels8153 I'm far from a LeBron fan and secondly AD is the one always complaining about playing the 5.
@@wendellnevels8153my guy even with AD playing the 5 and having great years the lakers defense is still horrible. LeBron James or not Anthony Davis still needs to play next to a defensive center
And magic traded him for a can of pringles and a mt dew.
Lebron have stunted the lakers when he joined that team.
He did both, after the chip , he’s stunted our growth due to wanting WB
seeing where they are now, stunt #1 wasnt really a stunt. kuzma is not a player to build around, ingram never learned defense and lonzo's knees/lower extremities were cooked. hart was also not someone to build around
Exactly
They won a ring. It was worth it. They are better than they were with Kobe atm.
I count the Bubble Chip. I don’t discount champions, but LA was a bit lucky to win that one. The conditions were just right for them, particularly AD and Bron, as they were able to stay healthy.
There were other reasons as well, but LA should have kept their core and not trade them for Westbrook.
What conditions were just right for them? I want to hear this dumb ish.
Does ppl forget the Lakers didn't trade anybody to get BRON , they traded everybody to get AD and the Lakers wouldn't of won another chip without both of them
I swear lebron fans always bring up his past accomplishments like there helping the current situation.
In Lebron’s 5 years in LA he won a title, and went to another WCF. That success is better than the entire histories of more than half of the teams in the league. I know things are rough now but the Lakers will get another superstar when Lebron leaves and win again!
Exactly
Lebron played 6 years in LA, this is his 7th with No chance of ring. But yeah many teams never won a ring. Its worth it.
Those ring highlights are great aren’t they
He dislikes Lebron, so his opinion is biased. He’s a Kobe fan.
It was in a dome in the pandimac did bron did it since no
He definitely hurt them after the 2020 ring by working with Pelika to gut their championship roster for Russ. That was a huge mistake
LeBron James is not the gm 😂
@@NCOMBHOODIE thankyou
The Lakers have never been known for developing talent and drafting. They’ve always been a win now club.
Exactly
I mean when Bynum developed while Kobe was there and wasn’t pawned off, even when Pau got to the lakers and floundered in the playoffs Kobe pushed him to be greater.
False. ..outside of the center position, most of the legendary figures in lakers history were drafted......the only reason people saying lakers are win now is because lebron on the team.....after Shaq was traded, the Lakers went thru a 5 year rebuild before winning their next championship
@@scorpionJB most legendary figures of any franchise were drafted there. You can say that about almost any team..Lakers are known for getting big free agents and making trades for stars.
And yet they drafted Bronny.
As a Lakers fan this was a great story 💯 keep up the great work bro 💯
Rob Pelinka need to be fired
Good Episode!!!!! I just sent it to my cousin who is a LeBron super fan!!!!
Could you please make a video on my TrashJuice home team??? The 6ers🙄🙄🙄🙄
So In the 6 full seasons lebron has been on the Lakers they have made the playoffs 4×, wcf 2×, nba finals 1×, 1chip, since 2018-19 the only teams that have that same resume are the Celtics, nuggets, warriors, bucks, heat, mavs. But somehow lebron has stunted the lakers growth😂😂😂
Bos( 4 ecf, 2f, 1 chip, 6 playoff app)
Mia( 3 ecf, 2f, 0 chip, 5 playoff app)
Mil( 2 ecf, 1f, 1 chip, 6 playoff app)
Lal( 2 wcf, 1f, 1 chip, 4 playoff app)
Den( 2 wcf, 1f, 1 chip, 6 playoff app)
Gsw( 2 wcf, 2f, 1chip, 3 playoff app)
Mav( 2 wcf, 1f, 0 chips, 4 playoff app)
If it wasn't gonna be born it was gonna be Kawhi and PG. and we seen how that went. LeBron saved the franchise and got us a ring. a lot of things came into play on why we are here.as a Lakers fan I don't regret Lakers signing LeBron and Trading for AD. Just sucks we couldn't have a parade.
Rob Pelinka is the problem of the Lakers not Lebron
If a prime Wilt Chamberlain can get traded, anyone can get traded, meaning the Lakers should have traded LeBron 2 seasons ago, but they went with LeBron too long, and the Lakers and their fan's(myself included) are about to suffer some tough years with no draft picks
LeBron & MJ are 100 times better than Wilt so no. those two should never be traded
Lebron James might be ducking that Diddy STORM 👀
You mean the Lakers saved Davis from the pels? I mean no one wants to play with the pels, they all leavin that team, from CP3, Holiday, Davis, Cousins and probably Zion and Ingram might leave too!
Lebron James has stunted the entire league - look at the ratings.
The AD trade was a blessing for the young talent especially for Lonzo Ball. They're allowed to develop their skills.
yeah and it worked out so well for him to
We need a Stunted Growth on Zion, Julius Randle and Mikal Bridges.
Honestly if the Lakers never considered going after lebron , they would've had a championship contender team , Brooke Lopez, kcp , Julius Randall, jordan Clarkson, lonzo ball , Kyle kuzma , Brandon ingrim , Larry Nance Jr, and Alex Caruso
Jc This is not cool I love your stuff but I am a life long lakers fan. Lakers nation is upset enough we don't need the hate 😊
(+30 Year LA Lakers Fan)
Appreciate your point of view on this. I know you will be honest 💯 but soon
Lebron will join the Timberwolves in a swap for Julius Randle.
Maybe you should do a stunted growth on the NY Jets, no playoffs since 2010, 0-4 in AFC Championship Games, no winning season since 2015 and never having a real QB with a positive winning record and/or TD-INT ratio with this franchise.
He won them a championship, but after the Westbrook trade everything stunted and it’s only been downhill since 2021. Lakers were also in an awful spot the last 4ish years of Kobe’s career to so it seems to be history repeating itself. Bad player moves and terrible front office decisions put the lakers where they are now.
He won them a championship though thats more than teams other than GSW, Celts and Nuggets can say.
@@roslolian11 exactly
They mortgage their future for that bubble ring and why do people keep bringing up a wcf that they were swept in?
@AggravatedMan365 by future you mean Lonzo, Brandon Ingram, Josh Hart and Jaxson Hayes? lol
A ring easily worth all those players combined
@roslolian11 I don't understand. Lebron is supposed to be this all time great that makes the players around him better. If that's the case he should have helped develop those guys and build a sustainable culture in LA. Instead he traded them all for AD who's basically wasting his prime in LA. The bubble championship was nearly five years ago. What have the Lakers done since?
I'm surprised you didn't mention Bron tendency to want a Yes Man as coach that prevents The Lakers organization from hiring a top coach with actual coaching presence.
The core of Lonzo (sat out 3 seasons), Julius Randle (is not Anthony Davis), Ingram (not my cup of tea) would've been a waste.
Losing Malik Monk, KCP and Kuzma were more devastating. I still don't understand why they had it in for Kuzma
So don't make the earlier core seem like the Lakers would've been better off
We were never excited about Lebron coming to the Lakers. Remember Kobe had to lecture us to accept LBJ, lol. Its because we already knew what he would do to the franchise. All the drama and loss of depth/ assets for a half a championship. Our skepticism was validated. I was way more into watching the young core enjoy each other, play hard every game and begin to figure things out.
Both at first yes with the bubble title to keep people happy but sadly that's it bad drafts AD not health and motovation gone also the organiztion did not get ypung tallent to develope to win a chip.
He needs to retire 💯
Can you do one of Luc Mbah a Moute?
Great video. 11:35
Stunt #1 Rob Pestinka
Stunt #2 Jeannie Buss
Stunt #3 The LeBron "system "
Looking forward to that Sherman Douglas joint.
@@Rustyblackleford Stunt when Lebron gave them a ring?
The stunt would have been Lakers core of Lonzo, Brandon Ingram and Josh Hart if Lebron didnt sign with the Lakers.
@roslolian11 why do you LeBron fans get upset if we bring up a truth? It is a system, no shade, it is what it is. But, I'm glad he gave is the only ring we EVER had...
Can you do a vid on Rashad Vaughn, Justin Patton and Georgios Papagiannis
All were lottery or near lottery picks that didn't pan out
You really a Bron hater … still fuck with your content but boy you be riding bron back
It's not hating if it's the truth. The problem is that y'all think that you have to praise everything someone does if you're a fan, when you can also criticize the areas that deserve criticism.
Soooo hate is the new truth. You new fans are infatuated with these dudes.
@@jerrypastrana8176what was the truth ?
@@jerrypastrana8176 nah its hate😂😂. No facts, half truths with no context. In the 6 full seasons lebron has been on the Lakers they have made the playoffs 4×, wcf 2×, nba finals 1×, 1chip, since 2018-19 the only teams that have that same resume are the Celtics, nuggets, warriors, bucks, heat, mavs
Bos( 4 ecf, 2f, 1 chip, 6 playoff app)
Mia( 3 ecf, 2f, 0 chip, 5 playoff app)
Mil( 2 ecf, 1f, 1 chip, 6 playoff app)
Lal( 2 wcf, 1f, 1 chip, 4 playoff app)
Den( 2 wcf, 1f, 1 chip, 6 playoff app)
Gsw( 2 wcf, 2f, 1chip, 3 playoff app)
Mav( 2 wcf, 1f, 0 chips, 4 playoff app)
Don't forget Josh Hart was traded away as well.
“AD struggles with injuries”
AD played 76 games last year and every game this year. See how being a hater makes you start lying
AD has never played a full season of 82 games. Also you casually omitted that he only played in 60, 36, 40 and 56 games since joining the Lakers prior to last two seasons you selectively chose to cite. In 13 seasons, AD has only played over 70 games three times. 😂 But go ahead and tell me he’s not injury prone.
Bro really put Westbrick as if that was a mistake😂
5:39 while i agree with your perception on the nuggets and warriors being more patient with young players , they didn’t have a 35 year old superstar wen their championship window was upon them . the lakers had to speed up because lebron didn’t have time to wait and see if Brandon Ingram could be a number 2 or if lonzo ball could be what Lavar said he was going to be
LeBron James going to jail for what he did at them Diddy parties
Go touch grass
Bron been tryna to give AD the keys ever since he sat foot in LA and AD just stays hurt and doesn’t play like he should be the leader so of course Bron gotta do what he has to do. That ain’t his fault
He definitely stunted their growth. They traded all of their aspects and assets for a 40yr old 😂
the lakers can do it cause they are not like others team. Even when lebron retires they'll sign another superstar like luka doncic and win again
If course he stunted it. If lebron is on your team, your pretty much guaranteed not to have a top 10 pick because you're not going to lose enough. It's been like that since his 2nd year in the NBA
They should have kept the young talent they had
Definitely saved it
The only thing Lebron did to mortgage our future was play a role in the Westbrook trade. The forever injured Lonzo Ball & Ingram wasn't gonna win us a chip. & if it wasn't for the Westbrook trade & AD getting hurt in round 2 of 2021 against Phoenix, we'd probably have 2 more chips 🟣🟡🏆also Magic trading Zubac to the Clippers for Mike Muscala was another stupid move
Lebron destroyed the Lakers franchise
Sucks when your home town team IS THE NBA. Time to trade both AD & LBJ 1 & 2. Put the ball into AR & DK hands. Been to both forum & staples games. All the way back 😉
No trade clause for Lebron James . So what can you do about it.
Feel like ur leaving the importance of javale McGee out in this video
It’s staples center forever
As a Knicks fan, this is a stretch. Any GM wouldve made the AD trade. The Pelicans are probably closer to what the Lakers woudlve been and further removed from any championship contender. Also, you didnt mention the Lakers pursuit of Kawahi or Paul George, both anticipated moves helped clear the caps for a monster big 3. Lebron didn't cripple the Lakers, yall won a 'chip regardless of how anyone attempts to downgrade, remained relevant, Bronny's jersey has made up for any Euro stash pick, and the Lakers coaching decisions were questionable, at best. Think about this, Lebron coaches were Luke Walton and JJ Reddick.... yet you blame HIM? 😂 The Lakers were one of the worst teams before Lebron arrived!
LeDiddy ruined the NBA
Also they were made to win the bubble ring cause they wanted to pay tribute to Kobe
People bring this topic up but it’s easy it’s ownership and management that’s always been the problem just like the Dallas cowboys but people hate bron so it’s just to say bron
Definitely screwed them over for the foreseeable future.
Pelinka and Jennie Buss are stunting the Lakers. The Lakers were trash before LeBron, couldn’t get one person to play with Kobe. Literally was taking max contracts so they couldn’t bring another star. Made terrible draft choices, and they ran off Magic Johnson of all people from the franchise. They broke up a championship team for absolutely no reason, and have never attempted to put a team together since. Continued to miss vital trades, wouldn’t get legit coach. Refused to make any moves to get any vital players. Refuse to actually get a center, made a horrible decision in Westbrook because they were desperate for anything. The franchise is dis functional from the top down, and they will go right back obscurity after LeBron leaves.
So let me get this straight, under Lebron, Lakers won NBA championships(bubble or not) won first NBA cup (hate it or love it) loss to the defending champs in the playoffs all while yes being a somewhat dysfunctional organization. Any other team not named Warriors, Celtics, or Nuggets would want that resume. Yes, moving forward there are challenges, but that’s the NBA, the game is continually evolving and LeBron has won throughout all of it
This is what bron ALWAYS does he jumps ship drains the team of their resources (young stars and money) then when he realizes it’s over he jumps to the next ship and gets all those coaches fired while he’s at it
In the end, it was all worth it. 😑🏆🏀1️⃣7️⃣
No matter how you slice it he saved the franchise. Anyone who knows ball knows the utter shit show the lakers were for the last four years of Kobe’s career onward. The only redeeming season was 2016 because he retired so they had a narrative to run to drum up buzz. They’ve seen more relative success including playoff (appearances and a championship) in Brons stint than most organizations have in the last decade lmfaooo. The attendance and viewership increased as well as jersey sales and notoriety. But because it’s Bron they only will acknowledge that he “should have won more” when his coaching suggestions were repeatedly rejected as well as personnel changes, and they blew the championship cor thanks to pelinka as noted by multiple players on the 2020 team. Tis the cycle of life 😂
What` future?
Stunt #4 .. Clutch sports
Stunted easy
I forgot this dude a bron hater lol. He got them a chip + those players traded never became anything championship worthy. Some teams don’t even have a ring lol
Should've stayed in Cleveland God's will is gods will
0:10 Did??
😂
The Celtics fan in me is enthused.
this shit is hilarious to me bc a lebron team the only team someone finna make a video about. the lakers traded assets to win a title and make two conf. finals. something most teams do to try to get that one. and then they try and recoup their assets later. the clippers gave up everything for Kawhi & PG and it resulted in 1 conf. finals where they got bust by an inferior team although Kawhi was injured. Knicks gave up everything to try and do the same, nets gave up everything for the big 3, suns gave up everything to do it with Beal & KD, timberwolves did it for Rudy & Warriors are most likely going to do it within the next month or so. yet the only team in the entire group that won a title is the lakers and LA still has more drafted equity and even young guys than half those teams. it’s only cuz it’s LeBron James and the Lakers that its looked at as a failure bc they didn’t win two rings
Lakerses🤔
The Lakers organization died the same day Dr buss did we just didn't know it, LeBron delivered on a championship since then Rob palinka and Jeannie Kobe friends are making sure lebron never wins anything else that's why he blew up the championship team Jeannie's drafting Lonzo ball over Jayson Tatum and not hiring tylue and taking DELO instead of Kyrie she has ruined this franchise but being a woman she gets a pass from the media and lebron gets all of the blame 😡
Kobe had to die for that ring 😂no lie
Stagnated.
He stunted the Lakers and has totally embarrassed them they now look like a pathetic franchise. Especially since the “championship” was in 2020 when half the league took the year off and it was a short season. 2020 didn’t count we all know it
Bro this video is a straight L these mofos so weird
Can lebron please retire ! He not even the best player to come out of HS.
Lakers weren’t never gonna win a urging regardless
They won’t a chip delete this vid LOL
The lakers were booty before LeBron he brought them a banner they have been relevant what bugs me so much the fact the lakers besides being so valuable are cheap and dont spend in the luxury tax like the Celtics and warriors have spent so much more obtaining and retaining talent the fact the lakers have a family ownership that depends on the teams income versus other owners that are billionaires and willingness to spend big money the lakers without bron and ad would have been the pelicans with no Zion none young talent would have been close to take us anywhere Ingram the best player has most execs questioning what he is worth you expect me to believe paying Ingram so Randle we would be a player in the NBA the major mistake was Westbrook and going away from what always worked
With bron defensive guys and shooting letting go of Caruso and Malik monk becuase they are cheap it’s been the same ol lake shit show they been since the beginning of the 2010s at least they hung another banner and at the worst if the lakers were smart could trade bron for young talent and draft picks and get off Anthony Davis easy he is a top 5 NBA guy for a load similar or more they traded for so the video should be how the lakers stunted LeBron and Ad u mean ad played 95 out of a 100 games and bron been there enough the problem is they need those guys to be there every night to compete becuase they have no depth but it’s the lakers fault not LeBron considering he brought Ad and a title they still have value and I feel the lakers have never gone all in on bron it’s been a major disappointment that deserves a deep dive
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The lakers are trash
You LeBron haters and Kobe dck riders sure love overlooking Kobe’s last 3 years
Cry a bit more
@@dominicrigsby8547😂😂😂
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