CONT. - Can You Rebel Against an Oppressive Muslim Ruler?
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Sir can you answer a question please, do the khawarage kill non muslims because my impression is they used to murder Muslims only?
Sir who did the companions fight first the hypocrites or the original disbelivers and who did ibn Taymiah says takes top priority in fighting?
Can you give me any evidence from the companions or the 4 righteous recommend generations that a ruler who makes interest and alcohol legal and allies with non believers against muslims does not take them out the fold of Islam?
Brother i love you in sake of allah but I'd like to please advise tim humble and Abdulrahman hassan to be careful in uae wallahi it's not a good place to give dawaa, yes they might have very good lifestyle and high wage there but they may not have the full freedom to speak about certain issues also considering uae is responsible for bloodshed and spreading fitna in many arab countries i would sincerely advise the brothers to relocate to another muslim country they are many options, jazak allah khayr
Finished it over the course of three days wa lillahi alhamd. Absolutely fantastic breakdown, clear as day for someone seeking the truth. One day I wish to be like the students of knowledge. Make dua for me. Jazaakum Allahu khairan
it's been 5 months and still haven't finished it ahahahah
14 hours. Subhanallah, we ask Allah عز و جل to preserve Ustadh ARH, and grant him (and the entire team) tawfeeq and goodness in this life and the next.
0:28>> Ustadh's incredible memory, may Allah increase Him In it.
2:52>> point 95 was not translated appropriately and Ustadh expounds on it.
4:17>> from point 78 to point 95 Ustadh explains it's meaning and further expounding.
10:48>> In the book مسائل الإمام أحمد a Man came to Imam Ahmed and asked Him about Ijma'(consensus) amongst the Muslims and Ustadh's explanation.
12:45>> The person who goes against the oppressive Muslim Rulers are three types namely.
15:51>> Shaykh Rabee' Al madhkali in His sharh of Aqeedatu Razziyan, and the statement of Imam Ahmed in His Usool-Us-Sunnah the issue of khurooj and further explanations by ustadh.
19:08>> The topic of anyone who rebels is He by default Khariji , Innovator etc and Ustadh's further explanations.
28:10>> Ustadh Abdulrahman hafidahullah explains what are the conditions to fight them.
30:07>> Summarisation of the points by Ustadh Abdulrahman Hassan.
42:09>> The issue of protesting in Muslim lands and Ustadh abdulrahman Hassan expounds on it.
46:57>> The Companions رضي الله عنهم said to Umarرضي الله عنه By Allah if We see in You an Issue that We reject. We will stand against You with Our swords and Ustadh's explanation.
49:42>> It's permissible to rebel with the swords due to the hadith" Whoever strives against them with His Hands." And Ustadh's explanation of it.
55:50>> They say it's permissible to rebel against a Ruler with a sword due to the khurooj of Musa Ibn Uqbah and Ustadh's explanation of it.
58:53>> An Athar from Umar رضي الله عنه where He said "Do not be Witnesses on Earth , until you take your rights from Your Leaders the way they take it from You , and You smack their necks in truth the way they smack Yours." And Ustadh's explanation of it.
1:03:05>> Ahmad Ibn Nasir Al Khuza'ee He was from the Imams who rebelled against Al-Wathiq, because He was an innovator and Imam Ahmed praised Him and Ustadh's explanation of it.
1:07:08>> Do You believe that Muhammad Ibn Saud and Muhammad Ibn Abdulwahab rebelled against the Ottoman Empire?
1:16:31>> Can there be an Ijma'(consensus) that forms after an issue of khilaf(disagreement) especially if that khilaf took place at the time of the Salaf.
1:19:51>> There is this statement We mentioned earlier, Shaykhul Islam Ibn Taymiyyah and Ibn Hajar, where He said about Al- Hassan Ibn Salih, like "the matter became settled."
1:22:44>> Khurooj (Rebellion) is not called khurooj unless there is sword accompanied by it.
1:24:53>> The incident of Dhul-quwaysirah at the Time of the Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم
1:32:55>> The Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم said along the lines of "If I was to be around to meet His lineage I will kill Them and Ustadh's explanation of it.
1:36:12 >> The Hadith مَنْ قُتِلَ دُونَ مالِهِ فهوَ شَهيدٌ . ومَنْ قُتِلَ دُونَ دِينِهِ فهوَ شَهيدٌ . ومَنْ قُتِلَ دُونَ دَمِهِ فهوَ شَهيدٌ ، ومَنْ قُتِلَ دُونَ أهلِهِ فهوَ شَهيدٌ ,How do we understand this does it not apply to fighting the Rulers and Ustadh's complete explanation.
1:38:20>> The hadith of Ibn Hibban and Ustadh Abdulrahman Hassan complete response to it.
1:44:53>> The Rulers are opposed and stood against due to their sins, as the Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم said" There will be Leaders who You will recognise them and You will dislike Them, Whoever opposes them will be successful and Whoever stays away from it will safe.
1:46:55>> The people of Madina sought an Islamic ruling from Imam Malik Ibn Anas regarding rebellion with Nafsan zakiyan(pure soul) and Imam Malik ruled it permissible.
1:50:41>> Imam Abu Hanifa used to obligate the rebellion against the Abbasid Empire and He saw fighting against them to being better than the with disbelievers.
1:57:32>> If a Muslim Ruler came to Your House and attempted to take Your Wife and Children will You fight Him back.
1:59:51>> What do you think about a Ruler who appoints the Disbelievers in high places and Ustadh Abdulrahman Hassan response to it.
2:01:21>> What if there was an Ash'ari government and they ordered all the Salafis to killed and can we fight them.
2:01:58>> You said the only time you can rebel is when He abandons the prayers.
2:04:31>> How can an issue have an ikhtilaf(differences) and have clear cut kufr(disbelief) ,it's a contradiction.
2:07:03>> If someone says leaving the salah is not major kufr can they rebel.
2:08:58>> The Salaf didn't like sitting with the Rulers.
2:12:18>> Who is the one who is fit to be talking about these issues.
2:18:47>> Do You approve of the doings of the oppressive Muslim Rulers...
2:21:04>> Can Someone call Himself an Athari, Salafi and still hold on to the belief that there is valid difference of opinion.
2:30:20>> The ending of podcast by the will and power of Allah سبحانه و تعالى.
May Allah bless you and accept this from you.
جزاك الله خيرا يا اخي الكريم
To the people who are in the comments arguing away with the numpties who think Khuruj is acceptable, please don't bother. If they won't be convinced by a 14 and a half hour video, what will they be? A truthful person only needs one evidence for him to accept it, while 5000 evidences won't be enough for the one who just wants to follow his desires. The proof has been established in this video. If they want to watch it, let them. If they don't, don't bother arguing with them. There's no point.
They are still quoting scholars, "but this scholars said....this history book said" while ignoring all the explicit texts and the scholars who declared ijmaa' in the matter.
the length of a video determines its truth? wow your down bad lol
@@elisq3807 Because the video was filled with Evidences.
@@limitedquantitysufiyyahexp4905 Tell me about it lol. Some people just don't get it do they?
So you think it's ok to just smile while those dictators put boots on our necks?
0:36 اللهم بارك Ustad's memory is amazing! May Allah preserve him.
Well obviously he studied before hand his memory is strong MashAllah but yk he probably goes thru 3 days of studying extensive before cuz these podcasts are 2-4 hours and all of it it’s in his head
@@YusifM411 this podcast was actually 15 hours this is just continuation
@@habibhussain1808 your telling me he sat there for 15 hours
@@YusifM411 yh knowledge brather
@@habibhussain1808 no he must have stopped and went back
I benefit so much from this channel May Allah bless everyone behind this channel Ameen
Subhanallah! I see why this podcast took half of the day to discuss because nowadays everyone falls into speaking against the Muslim rulers not knowing how serious its. It's a disease in the Ummah especially the youth that are not equipped enough. Allahu Musta'an.
@Abu M the key here is scholars though. We have a lot of instances where the scholars have not made takfir of a leader but that leader is still not safe from the tongues of the people
So if one does a wrong we're expected to turn a blind eye ?
Ustadh creating history with the longest podcast!🤩
May Allah accept 🤲🏻
can u tell me if I want to search and quote a hadith, which is best app to use. There are some apps, but they do not have proper search engines
Shaykh Albani, may Allaah have mercy on him, said something profound: 'For the person who is seeking the truth: one evidence will be enough for him.'
Sadly, many people only see what they want to see; they only hear what they want to hear. If they happen to hear or see something which questions their ideas or opinions they will automatically put up a defensive wall of rejection. Whatever they selectively decide to adopt as the truth is in reality a mirror to their version of the truth they subconsciously believe in to begin with. It requires a great deal of sincerity and humility to accept the truth, even if it goes against a person's preconceived notions.
Ustadh Abdur Rahmaan and brother Shahid (may Allaah honour them) could just as well sit here for a hundred hours and bring forth a thousand evidences, however, it will make no difference whatsoever to some: they might as well be speaking to a brick wall.
اللهم بارك
So comprehensive that it couldn't fit in one video.
It felt so satisfying to finish alhamdulilah.
May الله honor the Ustadh and Shahid for defending the sunnah. آمين.
I'm incredibly grateful that the brothers made the effort to go over everything and present it so us laymen can understand and benefit from. May Allah accept your efforts and forgive us, amin.
That the issue has been made so clear is such an incredible benefit for those seeking truth. Alhamdulillah.
Ironically the people who love to fight the case of the other side either rely on unverified information through misguided callers or just use little bits of gathered evidence with no wholistic conclusion, they probably will not watch a 14 hour plus podcast with such refutation, they’d rather remain ignorant on their desires, hence with that ignorance stand before Allah and speak of what you lot say, fear Allah and the final day ameen
JazakAllaku Khayr Ustadh Abdulrahman and the whole team.
May Allah grant Ustadh abdurrahman Hassan a long life, ameen, the next Shaykh of the forthcoming decade insha'Allah
Wow finished all 14 hours alhamdulilah. Thank you for the clarifications. I was convinced at probably the 3 hour mark but the rest was very helpful especially these last 2.5 hrs. Thank you brothers. May Allah reward you aameen.
Barak Allah feek. Good work.
I suggest you cut the entire lecture into parts and upload them again, easier for people to watch and follow.
Also makes it easier to put in timestamps as well.
Whether you agree with him or disagree. You have to admit he is a very knowledgeable person mashallah. Memory on point.
Jazakumu allahu kheyraa for the content
MashaAllah tabarak Allah, very beneficial,
Just a reminder change the battery of the beautiful clock in the wall
جزاكم اللّٰه خيراً
From what I learned and understood from this long podcast are. 1: it's not allowed for anyone to rebel against a Muslim oppressive,corrupt,sinner etc leader. 2:the people of power can only rebel against a leader of the Muslim country if he's a clear disbeliever and even then they must weigh the maslaxa and the mafaasid. Plz do correct me if I'm wrong.May Allah reward you with goodness for your efforts and may Allah bless you!If we look and observe the reality of the world today,these Islamic rulings make absolute sense. Look at the end result of these Muslim countries Syria,Libya,Egypt,Sudan,Somalia etcetera etcetera. May Allah make us understand his complete religion and may Allah make us from those who fully summit to his commands amiin!
Well, correct. It is impermissible to rebel against the Muslim ruler unless if he commits obvious Kufr then it becomes obligatory to rebel against him.
And the Madakhila would label you a Khariji if you rebel against the Apostate ruler.
JazakAllah khair
Bro hajji will be like " he didn't show the texts on screen"
Without any backbiting or slandering, where has Hajji studied? Which scholars or students of knowledge has he studied with? Which books has he covered? Did he memorize Quran? What’s his level of Arabic proficiency? lol does anyone know ?
They are saying he is looking at a screen
@@1slam1c_h1stiry then it up to them to prove it
@@1slam1c_h1stiry What would that change? And when he is doing other classes is he also looking at a screen?
@@user-dx8eh2vc5r can u tell me if I want to search and quote a hadith, which is best app to use. There are some apps, but they do not have proper search engines
May Allaah bless you both. You have saved a lot from great fitna of current time. Every second of this PodCast is valuable. May Allaah protect you both.
Alhamdulilaah!
Masha'Allah the last 2 hours
SubhanAllahi we bi hamdihi
الحافظ ماشاء الله ربي يبارك والله انت صاحب علم
وَإِن طَآئِفَتَانِ مِنَ ٱلۡمُؤۡمِنِينَ ٱقۡتَتَلُواْ فَأَصۡلِحُواْ بَيۡنَهُمَاۖ فَإِنۢ بَغَتۡ إِحۡدَىٰهُمَا عَلَى ٱلۡأُخۡرَىٰ فَقَٰتِلُواْ ٱلَّتِي تَبۡغِي حَتَّىٰ تَفِيٓءَ إِلَىٰٓ أَمۡرِ ٱللَّهِۚ فَإِن فَآءَتۡ فَأَصۡلِحُواْ بَيۡنَهُمَا بِٱلۡعَدۡلِ وَأَقۡسِطُوٓاْۖ إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ يُحِبُّ ٱلۡمُقۡسِطِينَ
And if two parties or groups among the believers fall to fighting, then make peace between them both, but if one of them rebels against the other, then fight you (all) against the one that which rebels till it complies with the Command of Allah; then if it complies, then make reconciliation between them justly, and be equitable. Verily! Allah loves those who are equitable.
-Surah Al-Hujurat, Ayah 9
This seems like an ongoing issue. Another vid came to my feed an happen to flick through it. Insult were used. When is this gonna end. This is why I said, put the evidence proof on the screen. So we can see.
you can open the kutub, he mentions where he got the proofs from
I love you for the sake of Allah.
I have only one doubt brother plz clear me Ameer muawiya r.a raised sword against Ali r.a is that also a khurooj plz kindly answer me and clear my doubt
I like that know the snipit is 2hr
Hey can u do concubines concepts and like mocked hadiths and like Sunni and shia?
he must have a photographic memory
Sorry if my pronunciation is wrong Imam hanifa imam malik imam shafia imam abu tayamma stand against ruler thats mean all of them r khawarji
So which group will those who make bai'a of the Mahdi will belong to? The Kharijis, the Mubtadi, or the Bughat?
I have a question to the salafi brothers, I’m from Colombia South America, I was born and raised Muslim here. Is Muhammad bin salman and the Saudi leaders consider my leaders?? Should I listen and obey them??
No they are not. They only rule the kingdom of Saudi Arabia.
@@sonofpaper5722 stop lying
Yes brother. They are legit leaders.
@@limitedquantitysufiyyahexp4905 and erdoghan?
@@wissamyassine1447 Yes bro, watch the podcast, they've dealt with this issue.
Ikhwaani, what is the case of the Khuruuj of Aala Saud against the Ottoman Caliphate?
Many scholars said this is not khurooj because Aal Saud never gave bay'ah or recognized the Ottomans as their leaders. Even if it was khurooj, as Ustadh mentioned in the podcast, even if a person sought power and achieved power through khurooj, it is haram but it now becomes obligatory to obey him. So in the end it is irrelevant.
@@alhomsiyyah
So when Najdis do Khuruj its allowed because they didnt give bayah.
That same principle can be used aswell to defend the Khuruj of Hussain r.a and Ibn Zubayr r:a
@@sali3492 if there's no bay'ah, there's no khurooj. So why do you keep saying the people of Najd did khurooj?
@@alhomsiyyah
That same principle can be used to defend Hussain r.a and Ibn Zubayr r.a they didnt give mujrim Yazid bayah.
Anyways i noticed Najdis make the rules on when to do rebellion. For example in Libya they support Rebel Haftar..... double standard?
As for me i dont do Nifaaq Khuruj, i believe to rebel against oppressor is not only religious duty but also humane
I thought this was 11 hours
This is all based on Saudi Wahhabi Narrative
The Prophet pbuh said
The best Jihad is to speak word of justice to an oppressive ruler
Sunnan Abu Dawood
Hadith 2040
1:38:20
1:57:33
assalamu alaikum majority of these lay muslims conflate ijtihad with khilaf. they dont know difference between this terms. some of them are people of hava/ whims and desires even though they know both terminologies/ what they mean and difference between these terms and still insist in their misguidance. just to not accept khuja i.e Quran and authentic Sunnah. they just throw that term, its khilaf/ ikhtilaf-difference as if it is ijtihad/ valid-accepted difference. well there is khilaf between us and kitabis/ yahud wa nasara and it does not make it valid. majority of nasara believe in trinity and claim Isa alayhi salatu wa sallam to be Allah auzubillah. and we dont believe, its khilaf/ difference between them and us. its not ijtihad/ valid-accepted difference. and most funniest thing i ever heard was ‘abandoning/leaving salah is kufur’ is khilaf what they ment was ijtihad. its ijmah of sahaba radi Allahu anhum. this ijdihad is not wether leaving salah us kufur or not. rather wether they reject is or dont pray it because of laziness. they didnt differ on issue rather on its details. use terms in its right place. also i see other daes who claim sahaba radi Allahu anhu did not differ/ never differed in aqeedah, they differed only in fiqh issues. which false too, they never differed in usul, they only differed in furuu issues. and not all differences in non fundamental issues are valid/accepted. la adri wa Allahu alam
However i believe the Khuruj of Hussain(r.a) was based upon truth. Had i been alive at that time, i would certaintly have joined him against the oppressors.
You should thank Allah that you are alive in the time that you are, only Allah knows who you would have joined or fought against or slandered or whether or not you would have saved yourself and stayed silent during such fitnah.
@@alhomsiyyah
The point iam making is that the the khuruj of Hussain r.a was justified because he never gave oppressor Yazid bayah
@@sali3492 you said with certainty that you would have joined Hussein. How would you have certainty of that? Many of the Sahabah didn't even join him, let alone approve of him going to Kufa.
@@alhomsiyyah
The Sahabah made wrong ijtihad.
We shouldnt forget that Yazid came in illegitimate way to the throne, also he was boasting to have avenged his mushriks fathers killed at badr.
Also about "certaintly" u are right, but i would have loved to join him during that time or even joining Ibn Zubayr r.a against Yazid/Hajjaj
@@sali3492 the Sahabah were wrong to try to keep him from being killed by Yazeed's army and betrayed by the people of Kufa?
It doesn't matter how a leader comes into power, even if they did it through an illegitimate manner. You must obey them once they are in power over you. You would know this if you listened to the podcast.
brothers if you are unable to speak the truth stay quite instead rather than being a muta'āalim the biggest scolars have this 'aqeedah but they stay quite for al Maslaha and here you are speaking in great deen matters
و هذا من التعالم ، اعرف قدرك يا أخي بارك الله فيك
The Pious Salaf may Allah be Pleased with them are from the Golden Age of Islam
Not the 1800's (Adbul Wahhab and the other Najdis)
Salafi is a false claim of the modern day khawrij
Own goal making it 14 hours if the matter has consensus.
The 14 hours is for the likes of you who don't want to follow the consensus! Hence, the brothers have taken the time to address each and every half-baked, misinformed and foolish counter argument that is made despite the clear ahadith of the prophet sal Allaho alayhi wasallam and the ijma'a of the scholars. You would be aware of the reason for the long podcast if you had the sabr and ikhlaas to learn something in depth for the sale of Allah, not jus make flippant remarks giving away your own ignorance on the matter.
The rulers are murtadeen
So these arguments wouldn’t count
Oh my actual God, I never knew people like you actually existed.
@@limitedquantitysufiyyahexp4905 lol ... "actual"
1:57:33
1:03:06
The Pious Salaf may Allah be Pleased with them are from the Golden Age of Islam
Not the 1800's (Adbul Wahhab and the other Najdis)
Salafi is a false claim of the modern day khawrij