Also crazy is NBC/Peacock broadcast live coverage of pro motocross. AMA and promoter making the money off of MB820. He gets $600 for placing 30 something overall. Yet ALL entries gotta pay for pro license. Gangster.
this video needs to be shared more. motocross cant even fill 40 gates without people like you. everyone is making money off this series except the riders.
Matt, the only word that comes to mind right now, is “unacceptable”. Seriously. Even at the lowest of levels, MX racing is an extremely low value event. I just prepped my buddies bike for a tiny local race where he paid $60/class (racing two classes) that are basically 10 minute motos. $120 for 20 minutes of racing before you pay for food/gas to get to the track etc. You privateers in the pro ranks paying that much just to hope you qualify for 2 30+ 2’s is just insane to me. Anyway, thanks for the content. We’re here for you brother.
This was a very insightful video! Thank you so much for giving us a glimpse into the cost of running with the big dogs. Keep up the great work! Can't wait for the next video.
Hey Matt just wanted to say thank you for your passion for the sport so many of us love. And also thanks you guys/gal for making my week better with your awesome videos you put out.
The amateur regionals are expensive because folks want to chase that dream and increase their odds. Enter as many areas and regionals as they can, then multiple classes if possible based on age and skill level. Unfortunately it’s become a money game at the amateur level as well, there are some really talented riders but if they have a mechanical issue, or a bad start, or they go down on a 5 lap moto, or the motos are cut short due to weather, they miss their ticket. Racing our local regional in Illinois against riders from Florida, Cali, Arizona, Canada, Mexico, the list goes on. Riders that train full time and have motor guys, suspension guys, trainers, practice mechanics, race mechanics, tutors, etc. Fly to the regionals, rent three separate cars and bitch about not having enough parking. Then don’t finish the weekend because they had a bad first moto and then off to the next regional halfway across the country….
Love this breakdown MattyB I've always wondered outside looking in what it actually takes to do one of these. Love the straight up honesty from you if u didn't lose any money bro then that's definitely a win in my book. Keep doing what you do and being you bro
Oh Yeah Thank you for being honest and letting us smoker fans know how much it takes to get out there as a privateer!!! Always a smoker fan but your non smoker is growing quickly on me and others i am sure!!!!!!
Matt...... I am sure that Star has another spot on a 250 for ya! Great video, I used to race dirt stock cars and can definitely say ......... We don't do it for the money! Shout out to Superfan and Top Chick too!!
Watch the the weege show today , he talks to all the privateers , some guys work all week and still race nationals they have real jobs and still race , that is what it’s all about , one guy does heating and cooling all week and goes racing , another guy is a lineman , that’s how the pay also and some sponsorship.. but some do have real jobs to support there dream and the love of the sport
It cost me a hundred back in the mid to late 80’s. Just to drive by the bike shop , if I looked it was $200 to 500, that’s weekly , I raced “A” class with my friends , and the national guys showed up and lapped us on our own track ! Next week bike for sale! Went mountain bike racing , got whooped by John Tomac , “Tomac attack “ they called it . Passed down to “ Beast Mode” You are exactly correct . Passionate about racing. I support !
Very cool insight - Had no idea what you guys spend to live the life... Also good to know that you DO in fact make some $$$ back from the actual racing - as a pro... You and J-Walk are easily the best independent, privateer, MX UA-camrs out here... Thanks for what you do --- Hope to see you at Southwick Baby! No Choice ... In the Contract!!
Yeah it's super expensive (compared to just running local races.) My buddy tried to talk me into being his mechanic for the entire season of Nationals (this was around `1995 or so) and was expecting me to pay for EVERYTHING (him and me) while I had to somehow keep my business running and pay a mortgage. As you can imagine, it didn't happen. Our estimated costs (with us camping instead of motels) were still around $15,000.00...and that assumed no major bike issues. As for local racing, even here in Idaho things have gone up compared to previous years. And will go up again next year. My own racing effort is struggling right now (missing this weekend's race due to clutch issues on the brat and cash flow.) and the rest of my season is in jeopardy as of today. Our race turnouts are somewhat down at most tracks (only the 50s,65s and 250 beginners came even close to full gates) even with our last race on the 8th having a good rider count.
Glad you broke evenish lol It was great to see you out there racing at the top level and the experience is priceless and you will remember it for years "listen here son when i was young and fast i raced the best" type stories to any one that will listen lol I am in my mid 50's and race a few offroad events Race license-$330 Club membership-$100 Entry fees-$80 Travel-200km = 30litres of fuel at $1.80 /l = #54 A weekend campout with mates = Priceless And Deep Heat for my cramping legs 2 days after - $10 Why do we do it ? It's our way of life and when it all clicks we are never more alive What other races are you racing ?
That’s crazy but I figured not everybody can be rich racing dirt bikes. What I would really like to know is how much does it cost and you make to race a local pro race like the non national races? Maybe you could do a video on that? It can’t be that bad if you say you are making a living off of it. Keep ripping.
Yeah even with Harescrambles/ Cross Country races and Amateur Mx racing I was spending at least $500-$1000 every weekend or every other weekend for my boy to race. This was mainly in Oklahoma but I did notice a slight rise in prices in Texas, California and some places East of us.
Something is very wrong…. You guys should all be getting paid start money just for showing up to a race! You are the draw. The more desirable a riders presence, the greater the start money for that rider. No professional racer should have to pay an “entry” fee, that’s for amateur events.
I remember that dive motel you stayed in before Dilla that had the bullet hole in the window or wall...in that run down town in Pa.talk about putting your life on the line
The thing a lot of people don't understand is, in order for pro's to be paid, they have to put money in for entry. That way they get a decent pro payback for placing high. Motocross doesn't get the level of TV coverage and advertisement NASCAR, Indy, F1, golf, or football gets. The promoters aren't rolling in the cash they make from putting on these events. That's why they need to charge such high prices for pro entry. It's real nice when you win, or place high, because you get a big chunk of that purse, but a lot of the money comes from contingencies and sponsors and that's what helps some of those guys continue to get paid to ride. When it all adds up, it's still not enough really and so many "would be" top riders have to give up the sport due to just not being able to afford it anymore. All the power to those that keep striving for the top though. It's a journey that you'll remember for the rest of your life.
I always wondered do they also charge you to get in at the race track like the spectators have to pay to get in on top of your other expensives as well?
sorry bud but you got lied to about the race fuel. the required octane goes down at altitude. race fuel would have done nothing unless the ecu was tuned for a specific oxygenated fuel. beyond that, those entry costs are monstrous. keep up the good work!
Wish they would make racing more cost effective that’s why there are so many 2 stroke fans including me but if I had a choice of racing a 250 2stroke or 250/450 four stroke I would pick the 250/450 4 stroke if I didn’t have to change the oil after 2 days of riding and my first 05 Honda crf250 had it 6 months valves screwed cam chain went out the weekend before my second race on it cost me $5500 to get the bike built back from the bottom up still had trouble with something all the time with that bike but i was way faster and more comfortable than I was racing 125s but all my 2 strokes made it through me besides one rm 125 I blew up after buying it with wrong jetting I was younger like 13 so I wasn’t on top of the maintenance like now but my kx100 02 model I had for 3 years never done nothing but change the top end out never had one problem with any of my 2 strokes but as soon as I got into the four strokes I went broke stopped riding until recently my son got me back into the sport again 2 years ago and we back at it props to you MB820!!
Thanks for the info, pretty interesting. I guess there's a few ways to look at it. Motorsports is expensive period. Considering you are racing at the highest level it is a lot cheaper than trying to qualify for a cup race at NASCAR or an Indy race for example, which don't really have such a thing as privateer teams as such as we refer to them in MX. However I do think the entrance fees they charge are ridiculous. We're glad to have you out there and I hope you keep on doing what you're doing. Also, just to confirm, the pro license is required for every race? Or is that an annual fee? Sorry if I missed it.
I mean motocross in itself is the most expensive sport/hobby I've ever done hands down. Something to tote the bike i.e. truck maybe trailer, bike, gear(helmet gloves boots jersey pants), gas for them, gate fees, constant cycle of parts etc etc blah blah. You guys know. It's expensive, no doubt, Matty. We know. -forgetting the added miles on ur truck = services for it coming sooner than later like tires, oil. Keep at it tho! Always crash at my house have a couple extra rooms for any Colorado activities ha(random fan stranger danger) so long as you don't mind a crying baby anyways
Are you allowed to gain or have outside sponsors that are independent from this? I am kinda saying like could a person help you with the entry fees as a non commercial person to get you into more nationals? I am sure you have some already but i am asking as a fan and a subscriber!!! I comment quite a bit on your videos knowing it helps but can I just offer a small amount to help you guys have funds to keep your cost down?
Sometimes you gotta pay to be the man. It is what it is. Long as your having fun beat that wallet like it owes you. No choice. At the end of the day it’s the cheapest sport with an engine you can do, and possibly the most fun you can have with your pants on simultaneously.
Lot of people in the comments have never lived paycheck to paycheck for your dream obviously. Find another sport where the entertainment pays to do their job and be the entertainment. Im sure theres a few but not any major ones. The amount of money the sport brings in, theres no reason these guys should have to pay to race.
Those guys don’t make the sport any money though and they make so much money because they add the costs in. It’s gotta come out of someone’s pocket at the end of the day but then the same lot complains other people get free stuff when it comes out of their pocket lol only when it apples to them do they support it
@@jro341 yeah I don’t simp over privateers like you and like you, I haven’t raced a national myself to get experience needed to know that answer. Go whine some more
Its crazy that you guys have to pay to race. Without you guys there wouldnt be a race. You guys should be covered by ticket sales
What's also crazy is the nationals have to pay to have races and they pay the stadiums for sx. Seems a little backwards.
Drama in Canada about payments too lol
I agree
Also crazy is NBC/Peacock broadcast live coverage of pro motocross. AMA and promoter making the money off of MB820. He gets $600 for placing 30 something overall. Yet ALL entries gotta pay for pro license.
Gangster.
Passion will always empty your pocket.. Braap!
this video needs to be shared more. motocross cant even fill 40 gates without people like you. everyone is making money off this series except the riders.
Matt, the only word that comes to mind right now, is “unacceptable”. Seriously. Even at the lowest of levels, MX racing is an extremely low value event. I just prepped my buddies bike for a tiny local race where he paid $60/class (racing two classes) that are basically 10 minute motos. $120 for 20 minutes of racing before you pay for food/gas to get to the track etc. You privateers in the pro ranks paying that much just to hope you qualify for 2 30+ 2’s is just insane to me. Anyway, thanks for the content. We’re here for you brother.
Dang. I guess I'll stop complaining about the $50 harescrambles and $40 motos lol
This was a very insightful video! Thank you so much for giving us a glimpse into the cost of running with the big dogs. Keep up the great work! Can't wait for the next video.
I Raced Amateur woods and a bit of motocross. Bike expenses are wild to say the least! Great riding Matt stick with it!
Hey Matt just wanted to say thank you for your passion for the sport so many of us love. And also thanks you guys/gal for making my week better with your awesome videos you put out.
The amateur regionals are expensive because folks want to chase that dream and increase their odds. Enter as many areas and regionals as they can, then multiple classes if possible based on age and skill level. Unfortunately it’s become a money game at the amateur level as well, there are some really talented riders but if they have a mechanical issue, or a bad start, or they go down on a 5 lap moto, or the motos are cut short due to weather, they miss their ticket. Racing our local regional in Illinois against riders from Florida, Cali, Arizona, Canada, Mexico, the list goes on. Riders that train full time and have motor guys, suspension guys, trainers, practice mechanics, race mechanics, tutors, etc. Fly to the regionals, rent three separate cars and bitch about not having enough parking. Then don’t finish the weekend because they had a bad first moto and then off to the next regional halfway across the country….
Keep at it 👍 hope to see you doing some more Nationals !!!
Thanks for being transparent man! Pretty neat info.
Goodluck if your riding this weekend and Godbless
Worth the price to live your Dream Matty B 💪 Moto Life. Nothing like it 🤙😉
Another great video!!! The Fans need to know this information!!!
Eyebrow national champion. Get that Revlon sponsorship dude.
Love this breakdown MattyB I've always wondered outside looking in what it actually takes to do one of these. Love the straight up honesty from you if u didn't lose any money bro then that's definitely a win in my book. Keep doing what you do and being you bro
glad you came out on the plus side man. keep chasin it buddy!
Oh Yeah Thank you for being honest and letting us smoker fans know how much it takes to get out there as a privateer!!! Always a smoker fan but your non smoker is growing quickly on me and others i am sure!!!!!!
Right on bro , Ya it’s expensive to race , be happy you actually made some back , keep going bro ! Welcome to Lakewood anytime
Matt...... I am sure that Star has another spot on a 250 for ya!
Great video, I used to race dirt stock cars and can definitely say ......... We don't do it for the money!
Shout out to Superfan and Top Chick too!!
Sup B K ✊
we love seeing you out there MattyB. and enjoy you and Top Chicks commentary
Absolutely no choice tho! Keep digging Matty love the videos
Keep pushin matty b i fw the videos
Watch the the weege show today , he talks to all the privateers , some guys work all week and still race nationals they have real jobs and still race , that is what it’s all about , one guy does heating and cooling all week and goes racing , another guy is a lineman , that’s how the pay also and some sponsorship.. but some do have real jobs to support there dream and the love of the sport
Might ban you from racing after telling 😂 keep ripping bro
It cost me a hundred back in the mid to late 80’s. Just to drive by the bike shop , if I looked it was $200 to 500, that’s weekly , I raced “A” class with my friends , and the national guys showed up and lapped us on our own track ! Next week bike for sale! Went mountain bike racing , got whooped by John Tomac , “Tomac attack “ they called it . Passed down to “ Beast Mode” You are exactly correct . Passionate about racing. I support !
200$ to 500$ a week to keep up a 2 stroke you got ripped off
@@lithium25693 just saying it’s expensive
Excellent subject matter, very satisfying information!
🐝🏁 Video 👍 good job Matt 👏 👊
Very cool insight - Had no idea what you guys spend to live the life... Also good to know that you DO in fact make some $$$ back from the actual racing - as a pro... You and J-Walk are easily the best independent, privateer, MX UA-camrs out here... Thanks for what you do --- Hope to see you at Southwick Baby! No Choice ... In the Contract!!
Thanks for the cost breakdown!!
If you lived in canada and drove that far the gas alone would have cost you $2200
Yeah it's super expensive (compared to just running local races.) My buddy tried to talk me into being his mechanic for the entire season of Nationals (this was around `1995 or so) and was expecting me to pay for EVERYTHING (him and me) while I had to somehow keep my business running and pay a mortgage. As you can imagine, it didn't happen. Our estimated costs (with us camping instead of motels) were still around $15,000.00...and that assumed no major bike issues.
As for local racing, even here in Idaho things have gone up compared to previous years. And will go up again next year. My own racing effort is struggling right now (missing this weekend's race due to clutch issues on the brat and cash flow.) and the rest of my season is in jeopardy as of today.
Our race turnouts are somewhat down at most tracks (only the 50s,65s and 250 beginners came even close to full gates) even with our last race on the 8th having a good rider count.
Glad you broke evenish lol
It was great to see you out there racing at the top level and the experience is priceless and you will remember it for years
"listen here son when i was young and fast i raced the best" type stories to any one that will listen lol
I am in my mid 50's and race a few offroad events
Race license-$330
Club membership-$100
Entry fees-$80
Travel-200km = 30litres of fuel at $1.80 /l = #54
A weekend campout with mates = Priceless
And Deep Heat for my cramping legs 2 days after - $10
Why do we do it ? It's our way of life and when it all clicks we are never more alive
What other races are you racing ?
That’s crazy but I figured not everybody can be rich racing dirt bikes. What I would really like to know is how much does it cost and you make to race a local pro race like the non national races? Maybe you could do a video on that? It can’t be that bad if you say you are making a living off of it. Keep ripping.
Average Joe classes are 30 , pro local I’ve seen 40 per class ( moto 1 and 2 ) gate fee 20 ea , thy charge for a pit bike
Much respect dude
Yeah even with Harescrambles/ Cross Country races and Amateur Mx racing I was spending at least $500-$1000 every weekend or every other weekend for my boy to race.
This was mainly in Oklahoma but I did notice a slight rise in prices in Texas, California and some places East of us.
Good for you, I hope you achieve your goals.👍
Keep at it mate! Top 30 is there 👍🏼
Always do your best and have fun. Never quit when you still have something to give. It's not a funeral, make some noise. Privateer power.
Keep livin the dream man.
Something is very wrong…. You guys should all be getting paid start money just for showing up to a race! You are the draw. The more desirable a riders presence, the greater the start money for that rider. No professional racer should have to pay an “entry” fee, that’s for amateur events.
100% agree.
100%. You gotta work hard to have a Pro License to begin with.
Racing is a rich kids sport!!
I remember that dive motel you stayed in before Dilla that had the bullet hole in the window or wall...in that run down town in Pa.talk about putting your life on the line
The thing a lot of people don't understand is, in order for pro's to be paid, they have to put money in for entry. That way they get a decent pro payback for placing high. Motocross doesn't get the level of TV coverage and advertisement NASCAR, Indy, F1, golf, or football gets. The promoters aren't rolling in the cash they make from putting on these events. That's why they need to charge such high prices for pro entry. It's real nice when you win, or place high, because you get a big chunk of that purse, but a lot of the money comes from contingencies and sponsors and that's what helps some of those guys continue to get paid to ride. When it all adds up, it's still not enough really and so many "would be" top riders have to give up the sport due to just not being able to afford it anymore. All the power to those that keep striving for the top though. It's a journey that you'll remember for the rest of your life.
Appreciate all the privateers w/o you it would not be thank you 👍💪
Your majestic bro anyways nice video
Brrrraaaappppp... Qual and race lorrettas getn crazyyy $$$$$
I always wondered do they also charge you to get in at the race track like the spectators have to pay to get in on top of your other expensives as well?
sorry bud but you got lied to about the race fuel. the required octane goes down at altitude. race fuel would have done nothing unless the ecu was tuned for a specific oxygenated fuel. beyond that, those entry costs are monstrous. keep up the good work!
racing is like gambling. the good thing about racing is that you get too old to do it.
Wish they would make racing more cost effective that’s why there are so many 2 stroke fans including me but if I had a choice of racing a 250 2stroke or 250/450 four stroke I would pick the 250/450 4 stroke if I didn’t have to change the oil after 2 days of riding and my first 05 Honda crf250 had it 6 months valves screwed cam chain went out the weekend before my second race on it cost me $5500 to get the bike built back from the bottom up still had trouble with something all the time with that bike but i was way faster and more comfortable than I was racing 125s but all my 2 strokes made it through me besides one rm 125 I blew up after buying it with wrong jetting I was younger like 13 so I wasn’t on top of the maintenance like now but my kx100 02 model I had for 3 years never done nothing but change the top end out never had one problem with any of my 2 strokes but as soon as I got into the four strokes I went broke stopped riding until recently my son got me back into the sport again 2 years ago and we back at it props to you MB820!!
Thanks for the info, pretty interesting. I guess there's a few ways to look at it. Motorsports is expensive period. Considering you are racing at the highest level it is a lot cheaper than trying to qualify for a cup race at NASCAR or an Indy race for example, which don't really have such a thing as privateer teams as such as we refer to them in MX. However I do think the entrance fees they charge are ridiculous. We're glad to have you out there and I hope you keep on doing what you're doing. Also, just to confirm, the pro license is required for every race? Or is that an annual fee? Sorry if I missed it.
It's a yearly thing.
hey man how were your arms after the moto's i wanted to ask if the arm pump is getting better with riding the new bike
shout out Ricky! TPB for life!
Damn! Top Chick must have heard how much you spent and put your a$$ on the couch.
Seems like. Your back into your normal head space it was rough seeing you down and out last season two strokes can be rough at times when racing 450s.
!nothing but RESPECT. This is not the easy way, I know it. Miroslav /Europe
It’s one of those things as a racer, I knew! But, if you race for money your not having fun!!! 😉🤙🏻✊🏻👊🏻
Do you get a new tire for each race?
Talking about things that alot of people wonder about.
I see you sleep on a pull out couch, that's all we needed to know about the financial situation of pro motocross :)
One might say his pullout game is strong......
Add what most people really spend on food and lodging. 4 or 5 nights on the road. Another grand or so at least.
Chik-fil-a is good!!
That's ft up bro That's way to much for a privatere .and you know dam well they know that
You have Marketing exposure on YT to offer to get more sponsors, any potential in working that for Fuel expenses and other regular costs?
Wait why did Yamaha pay you? Just because a rider used their bike or is there some sort of deal/sponsorship you have with them?
Contingency. That’s why the field is one brand heavy from year to year. Privateers bread & butter is contingency $$
I mean motocross in itself is the most expensive sport/hobby I've ever done hands down. Something to tote the bike i.e. truck maybe trailer, bike, gear(helmet gloves boots jersey pants), gas for them, gate fees, constant cycle of parts etc etc blah blah. You guys know. It's expensive, no doubt, Matty. We know.
-forgetting the added miles on ur truck = services for it coming sooner than later like tires, oil. Keep at it tho! Always crash at my house have a couple extra rooms for any Colorado activities ha(random fan stranger danger) so long as you don't mind a crying baby anyways
-almost as bad as playing ice hockey lol
Well done mate it's expensive
Are you allowed to gain or have outside sponsors that are independent from this? I am kinda saying like could a person help you with the entry fees as a non commercial person to get you into more nationals? I am sure you have some already but i am asking as a fan and a subscriber!!! I comment quite a bit on your videos knowing it helps but can I just offer a small amount to help you guys have funds to keep your cost down?
Back in the 90’s Jeff Glass got Surf detergent for a sponsor so it is possible to get outside support. I think he was one of the first to do that.
js4 and you can ride anything and go fast with no prep
Pirelli doesn't go to the Nationals, what? why support them then? Dunlop was always my fav, or Michelin. Damn Pirelli if they dont support!
Mxgp
@natel7382 OK, but we talking America
I'm pretty sure perelli is more of a European supporting brand they are the Dunlop of the MXGP SERIES
Run Aviation fuel. 110 low lead.
Only about 6 bucks a gallon. Bet it doesn't boil at elevation 😂
Av is 100 not 110
Sometimes you gotta pay to be the man. It is what it is. Long as your having fun beat that wallet like it owes you. No choice. At the end of the day it’s the cheapest sport with an engine you can do, and possibly the most fun you can have with your pants on simultaneously.
Lot of people in the comments have never lived paycheck to paycheck for your dream obviously. Find another sport where the entertainment pays to do their job and be the entertainment. Im sure theres a few but not any major ones. The amount of money the sport brings in, theres no reason these guys should have to pay to race.
Those guys don’t make the sport any money though and they make so much money because they add the costs in. It’s gotta come out of someone’s pocket at the end of the day but then the same lot complains other people get free stuff when it comes out of their pocket lol only when it apples to them do they support it
@@midnite_in_november Sure lol whatever you say
@@midnite_in_november Says the guy that had to ask why Yamaha paid Matt.
@@jro341 yeah I don’t simp over privateers like you and like you, I haven’t raced a national myself to get experience needed to know that answer. Go whine some more
@@Sprocket74 facts dont change if you ignore them
cost money to race and smoke hash and shit
Ass, gas, or grass, nobody rides for free.
All this is nothing new, lol.
Still cheaper than road racing or any other motorsport! Except trials ! Cheap as chips 😂
+$30k for the bike, parts, gear and a car
Hope to see you again at spring creek.