Owners don't want season ticket holders, they don't spend in the clubshop week in week out. They want different supporters everyweek spending on merchandise and food
only the top clubs.because they can sell out.footbal is overated and over priced.but its life today.there are far better things to spend your money on.
Exactly! They want tourists from China, from America from all over. Come to.old Trafford as a one off and get your over priced souvenirs in the gift shop like it's Disney Land!
Glazers said this a long time ago. They don't want "legacy fans". They know Chinese fans spend £500 in th3 club shop, plus the ticket. So thats £550 for ONE game, one seat. A season ticket holder gives them £700 for the entire season and not a penny more.
@@JR-sj1jz I have never once heard any so-called supporter at any club, ever, anywhere, complain about their club spending money immediately after the event.
Stop paying players so much money. Salah is paid to do what he does. But he says I'm doing it so pay me more. How much do these players need , it is ego
If someone sees Simon Jordan walking down the street and they say to him, "Hi Simon," he would start an argument with them about how Simon isn't his name.
@@Dr.Yakub22 now this is just ridiculous. He's just calling it as he sees it and he has the holistic view to do so. He ended the sentiment by saying that the anger should be targeted at the bleeding players. So don't be a balloon towards Simon. From Australia, no worries mate!
No such thing as fans the word you’re looking for is customer. And prices go up everywhere. And you conveniently forgot the money goes to the players so is your issue the players the owners or Simon?
@@adammohamed.. Customers switch brands solely on opportunistic triggers. Fans are loyal to one brand. Perhaps there should be some 'cross dressing by hardcore supporters' next season, eh? All the Kopites have a weekend in London supporting Tottenham and the South Stand at Spurs get sent to the Kop to support the Reds. I'm sure all 30,000 supporters will be exhilerated by that suggestion, eh?
We need to start reducing player salaries and transfer fees to curb this issue. That is the real cause of the price increases and the reasons clubs are not making any money
It won't happen - the Americans are looking to steal the global game and they'll just set up in the USA with even higher salaries than currently exist.
Exactly! A lot of people are choosing to ignore this fact. That’s the root of the issue. One player on £200k/week costs the club roughly £10.5m a year for his salary alone. And that may be after costing the club £50m from their transfer fee. If the player stays at the club for 5 years, that’s an additional £42m on salaries (but don’t forget in the middle of that somewhere, the player will throw a strop that he’s not being paid enough and needs more to stay, so that may go up to £275k/week).
@ exactly just rashford and Antony are making a combined wage of over 500,000 a week. This is the reason united is not making any money. No player should make over 100,000 per week
@ clubs, agents , football governing agencies, sponsors. Even fans need to stop demanding clubs do everything to keep a player or demand clubs go to the market to buy expensive players.
@@check2000 A salary cap is a restraint of trade because it potentially restricts someone's earning capacity, which is against EU laws. Now tell me why that isn't true.
What's the point giving Simon Jordan a view on this. You'd need too have suffered a little in life to have a proper opinion on it and his answer shows that, people are working longer and have surplus money??? Really
The sentiment is missing from this. United paying players ridiculous wages, not shipping out the rubbish performers on high contracts and passing cost to fans. Fans being charged for miss management. The wage structure is the problem. Created by the owners.
when Simon asked him where is the greed coming from he started stuttering. No one wants to admit that the player and their agents are ruining this by their wage demands and winey attitude. People blame owners because owners cant retaliate against fans, however, players can just put a transfer request and leave if the fanbase are not behind them. These wage bills and agent fees are ridicules and the owners are being held hostage by it.
Simon is giving an analytical view on how football finances work and essentially saying if the fans don’t like the tkt price increases, blame the players and agents as that’s where the moneys actually going. For most fans however, we just see the inequality and unfairness of it. The money goes into the club and we then watch as millionaires and billionaires argue over who gets a bigger piece. There’s too much allocated to the players and agents and so the owners want more, and all the while, normal fans are being priced out of going to the game. The heart and soul has long since left top tier sport as far as I’m concerned and it’s a real shame but as ever, it’s the fans who suffer. No footballer on the planet deserves the wealth they receive and most owners and broadcasters couldn’t really give 2 hoots about the fans. Thats the reality.
Premier league clubs probably make 80% of their revenue from broadcasting and advertising. I don’t see how increasing season ticket prices really has any impact for prem teams! Only thing i can think of is; they want a certain demographic to be priced out!
The reason many of the clubs are losing money is because they are overpaying for players and overpaying players and also because agents are making obscene amounts of money despite not directly contributing to the sport. The EPL along with oil states and oligarchs buying football clubs as their personal vanity project have been the prime reason for transfer fees and salaries rising the world over.
If this game survives it’s greed for another decade , it will either be , a working man spending a weeks wages to attend a match , or the stadium will be half filled with millionaires , like Simon Jordan .
Criticise the greedy of the players, it doesn't make sense to run football to lose money so I myself blame the greed of the players , look at Salah , how much is he on and yet he wants even more money.
To many conflict in interests for Simon now, no longer gives a good opinion it’s always depending on which club and who’s his mate and who ain’t. Times up
Imagine sulking Rashford needing another new manager to get the best out of him being paid 300k per week. Fluke Shawarma missing another 300 games and getting paid £150k per week to stay home
Until football stops paying the ridiculous amounts for transfers, wages and agents fees this will continue. The greed in football is killing it for the fans.
What's killing it for the fans is the never ending timewasting, the never-ending false injuries, the deliberate timeouts. That's the one thing that I cannot stand paying top dollar for. I expect to watch a proper game of football with 90 minutes of football, not fifteen minutes of histrionics, fakery and advert breaks for US TV.
17/20 are losing money and this is as a result of clubs spending above their means. If you offer players more money, they aren't going to ask to see how it effects the clubs finances. They are going to take it, just like people in any other line of work. PSG broke the market with the Neymar deal and from the money they made, Barcelona continued it signing Coutinho, Griezmann and Dembele for stupid money and offering stupid wages. Next thing it became the norm. The clubs have created this market, not the players. On Man Uniteds case, maybe if the Glazers invested some of their own money from time to time instead of taking mass amounts of dividends over the past 20 years, then ticket prices wouldn't have to be pushed up. Clubs are rotten from the top
For 3 decades I was a regular attender of football matches, mainly at Arsenal. Ten years ago I decided that it was just too expensive and stopped going. Working-class fans have been priced out of most PL grounds. The clubs now only want middle-class supporters and tourists. I’ll never stop loving the game but I hate what had happened to the business side. The clubs stopped caring about real fans years ago.
Im a Chelsea fan and have been for the past 36 years so I can only speak about my club. The problem we have is that a proper loyalty system was never put in place to reward the real fans. Every game will sell out at Stamford Bridge but what happens is you get the plastic fan and tourists turning up. Atmosphere is a joke sometimes. Last season I sat down with my son next to some tourist and he actually asked if Chelsea were playing in blue!! But if the game sells out every time then the owners couldn’t care or less about the loyal fans.
Ridiculous statement. The question wasn't about if he thinks it's right or not. He's just stating facts about the money involved in football clubs and what the potential reasons for the hike in prices are. Of course it's not right. Fans are what make football. But are we seriously that deluded to think money grows on trees
Everyone who goes food shopping knows how much extra we are getting rinsed this last few years, that’s just one example. I doubt Simon’s even truly noticed.
I think football in general has become far too greedy. The prices of tickets, the merchandise, players wages are insane aswell which imo isn't helping. Players imo should have a more modest wage & if they reach certain goals then they get bonuses. Surely by doing that it'd cover the cost of tickets which therefore then wouldn't be increased. It's very hard for fans these days when everything is increasing in price
Wasn’t the first televised game Tottenham against Nottingham Forest in 1982 ? Then there was a few games here and there for the rest of the decade before 92
The question where is the greed is staring us in the face with multi millionaire teenagers and agents. Pay them less. There is no way they should be paid 600k a week. Its ridiculous. Stronger business models where wages are % of revenue and not getting out of hand.
This is a lazy analysis. Gate receipts arent the biggest driver of revenue; tv deals and sponsorships are. We’re receiving less tv money because of our league position, and we’ve already got a ridiculous amount of sponsorship deals, which are almost certainly structured in a way that we get more $$ based on league position. Selling a few more burgers each week isnt going to be the difference between complying with PSR or failing. The club needs more income and to reduce expenses. Clearly, they’re looking at everyone; reducing wages, cutting ambassador roles etc, back to office, etc etc. Ticket prices are part and parcel of the same review.. it sucks, but it is what it is.
Kids prices shouldn’t go up, it’s not the kids that pay it’s the parents and it they remove the ability to afford the next generation of fans and parents being able to enjoy a game with their kids goes. Then less go and the TV costs go up, it’s lose lose. Maybe Utd should get rid of some of the players robbing salaries as a starting point
Just a bit dumb really. Let’s the rich get away with whatever they want - they already have/make enough money, they don’t have to raise ticket prices (which pale in comparison to TV money, sponsorship deals etc)
@MegaMikey2006 if you don't go it wouldn't hurt them much because your ticket would just go to someone else. Salary cap and being more substantial is the only way but won't happen because players and it's union will not allow it . If you get the broadcasters to pay more for the deals they do it will only price up your monthly bill on sky etc even further. You simply can't afford to price out younger fans because there the next generation otherwise you won't have people bringing kids to games. And it's unfair on the elderly people as well You just get tourist fans who will dilute the atmosphere in games and people will complain about that . All you will eat is pricing people out and only the well off can afford it .
Stupid statement there are people that are going to matches since they were born and its them people that are the most loyal are being priced out of it
The fault lies with clubs demanding inflated fees for their players, the players and their agents demanding over the top wages (don't get me started on their short career BS ). The people paying for it all is the match going fan and to a lesser extent the tv viewer.
Football finances should of been sorted 20 years ago there should be a wage limit on players and managers dont need Football agents why players cant sit down and discuss there own contracts is beyond me and ticket prices should have been capped long time ago,sad thing is the greed and stupidity will continue while the average person/family have to pay the increased prices
Stop moaning about it! If you don’t like it and can’t afford it, don’t go! But guess what? There’ll still be full stadiums every week, this whole complaint is pointless
@@michaelthornhill9073 But they won’t bud, thats the problem. They’re happy to protest and complain, but when it comes to actually doing something about it… Nothing
It's not pointless, it concerns a fundamental change in the whole culture of the English top tier. The only reason the Americans bought these clubs was because of 100+ years of almost entirely English traditions. Now they want the working man, even the honest middle class family man kicked out. Soon they will treat English football fans like Palestinians......
In less than two generations, football stadiums will be empty if they continue on this path. Because the elderly won’t be able to afford to go and fathers with young kids won’t be able to attend due to the price. People only see the present and not the future. Paying someone a million a week to kick a ball is beyond ridiculous.
Disgraceful human. Clubs and owners are reaping the benefits of an all time high multi billion TV rights package but still feel like they need to fleece their matchgoing supporters with ever-increasing ticket prices . It's not right on fans. Pure greed
...but not as a tradesman or on a National Minimum Wage. Simon Jordan appears not to give a damn about such folk. Yet these working class people were, and continue to be, the global backbone of the beautiful game.
How's it not greed how much football brings in shirt prices ridiculous half time food or drink ridiculous ticket price ridiculous there's no game without fans
If you can’t afford to attend a football match - do not buy the ticket! A friend of mine bought a facility in North Carolina, USA, he turned into a very good indoor sports venue with 4 artificial turf soccer fields, every day it used reserved to the fullest by schools, leagues, academies, etc. Every year he raises the rates, renters complain, in turn they have to charge the players and their parents but my friend will not have it, he has a list of academies and schools waiting in queue to rent his facilities, just this October he showed me his schedule and all 4 of his fields are already reserved through February 2027!!! And he already made every one aware there would be an increase of certain % next September. I am a Man Utd fan, have visited England 8 times in the past 21 years and was NEVER been able to buy a ticket to a game, they were all sold out. I know there are thousands of fans, not local, not the ones who “built” the club but many-many fans dreaming of going to a game and pay the money.
Working class people cant afford to go to games anymore! Its enough to pay increased energy prices, and the food shop has doubled over the last 3 years! Clubs can find all sorts of ways to increase revenues with creative ways to sell advertising/sponsorship and co branding etc.. working class are the heart of every football club, taxing them mid season shows a lack of business acumen and understanding of what football is.
right wages are the issue, one week at villa wages would cover 6 sold out home game man u one weeks wages is 11 home games. thats only one weeks so if the players took one week less money on there current deal u could almost have free attendance and much cheaper prices
Yep the new theory is turnover in fans each game, so it becomes a special occasion one off, buy in the shop, scarf, drinks, food, they want tourists now!
I don’t know how anyone can justify removing the concession price for children. The owners just want full price paying tourists in their stadiums, and to hell with those who would support their team week in, week out.
Bought tickets to watch Arsenal not long ago, it was all foreign tourists as far as I could see around me. As it was a one off for them they were spending left right and centre in the club shop and on food and drink. These are the fans that owners want through the door instead of season ticket holders who won’t be spending that week on week. Fans thinking that not attending will send a message, it won’t. For every fan who doesn’t attend there is somebody else ready and waiting to take your seat
Cap the players salaries! and say what you want about pre premiership times! but it was the best time to watch football and it wasn't a tourist day out,
They want Corporate "Fans" , Tourists and the well heeled Prawn sandwich munching sit down at all cost brigade instead of the working class singing, chanting, swearing , shouting ,cheering , away following, stand at all cost ,Pie eating genuine Fan. Its already happening, after a goal, its polite Tennis crowd style applause from 3 ends of most grounds. They're the ones with the money.
I would argue that there iis not more disposable as Simon suggests. The 'simple' man on the street is getting hammered left and right nowadays with inflated prices hitting him at every angle.
Well the keyboard warriors have drawn me in here... A lot of hate towards Simon as if he's saying the price increases are right. He's just giving some potential reasons for why the increase has come about. Hes not saying he agrees with it! But what fans seem to not be able to answer or are avoiding is the simple question....where isnthe money going to come from? Seems to be there needs to be a genuine discussion around wage caps, different revenue streams etc Money doesnt grow on trees!
@mikezappa of course they are wanting to make money! No-one saying they aren't. And of course after investing millions they want some of it back. Wouldn't you! Or you telling me you'd invest in a club and just waste money. I'm not saying they aren't trying to make money. How about we have a serious conversation without the emotion. Investor/owners put in a hell of a lot of money right. Whether it's their own or on behalf of a investment fund. She should they get something back or just throw money away? How do they claim it back? What's the right way? Do fans want investors/owners to fork out money for stadiums or to get the best players and pay the best wages, of course they do? What's the solution? Do we have wage caps? Are clubs building up debt in order to invest in stadium upgrades? What do we do here? My point is that none of it is ideal or sustainable. Fans shouldn't pay more but the don't expect owners to invest all their money for nothing. What's the solution?
Simon has a point in that clubs need to maximise revenues. But it’s on fans. If prices are so high then they shouldn’t attend games. They should not attend games
@@Rocky-w5rhe has written columns throughout his career, including his own in the sun. He just likes to seperate himself all the time as not being "the media"
Where United has erred over the last 10 years or so is not increasing prices gradually to match inflation. They kept prices flat for the most part, and now they have to catch up
How can you want superstar driven, successful teams without understanding the financial reality of chasing that outcome. Every week I hear of fans screaming for big signings, booing managers whose teams stumble. They want their team to bring silverware. It costs. It’s terrible that lots of fans can’t afford to go watch their beloved teams but you reap what you sew.
After liverpool game on Sunday a couple of pundits were saying...give Salah what he wants or something along those lines.. Now obviously his wages would save club losing on transfer fee or replacing him but some of elite players want to play less football but guaranteed wouldn't take less money.. Not a dig at player it's short career but ask most top players if they would take a 1% cut of wages to save ticket price going up and it would interesting to see how many would do so.
Usually agree with Simon but the reason clubs aren't making money is their own mismanagement.. it should not be up to supporters to make up the short fall... they will still ramp up their mismanagement as turnover goes up.
United went years under the glazers without price increases. We’re over 400m in transfer debt, we’re at the PSR limit, we have a bunch of players we can’t sell due to an egotistical transfer strategy under Woodward, we’ve been out of the champions league (or dumped out early) for multiple seasons… there’s no money. Ineos need to cut costs and increase revenue wherever they can. Ticket prices are an easy lever to pull on, and they have to do it. Not pulling out any violins here; id rather they didnt have to do it, but it’s an unfortunate reality.
United fans want Ten Hag to be sack and United to pay release clause for Amorin. They also want the club to buy more players to win trophies but somehow don't want to pay more to watch the team. I am still trying to make sense of it
Clubs are cooking their books to pay less tax. Stop blaming players wages. The amount of money they make from tv and sponsors. Shouldn’t have to fleece their fans.
If football club owners do not make money, then surely clubs need to do the decent thing and cap wages. The players would still play football whether they earn £300k a week or £3k a week. Football needs to get a grip of itself. What surprises me is that fans have not realised how powerful they actually are...simple solution is to boycott games and boycott buying merchandise.
Players earn 300K weekly to sit on the bench or in the stands. The tickets could never pay these wages. There is no Greed. The club needs to be more competently managed. A Football club is not profitable. It is to make money from other activities.
The greed is campaigning for brexit then moving to Monaco to pay 0 tax despite getting your desired outcome. He could pay tax, he can afford to pay tax, he just chooses not to. Simon talks economic reality. THEN increasing prices drastically
Supply and demand. No one is forcing you to go. The premier league is a global competition now. You all scream for the best players, where do you think the money comes from? TV rights all around the world. I’ve watched English football all my life for 40 years, no way I can watch my team and rock up and buy a GA ticket or online. Only chance I have is buying a hospitality ticket that will cost me a couple hundred quid. Don’t like it support a local non league team where you can stand have a cigarette and no one is busting your balls. Or, go for a two day trip to Germany & watch a bundesliga game.
If supporters want their wonderful heroes to be paid crazy money you need to pay for it…if you don’t like it don’t go. If you can’t afford it tough. I can’t afford doing what I like. That’s life. Change your hobby. Easy. I’d love to go watch Hans Zimmer but the 200/300 ticket price has priced me out sadly…for me
Not greed, stupidity. Spending Millions on Forever Hospitalized Luke Shaw, while firing loyal staff and increasing ticket prices for loyal fans who come and watch this failed club playing horrible football week in and week out.
01:00 what a bunch of crybabies. Supply vs demand, Football is now a luxury item, the same as the theatre or a fancy dinner if you don’t like it stop paying! At the end of the day football is now a business, as a business owner if you could have… a season ticket holder who pays £1200 and spends nothing else for the entire season OR A different tourist every week spending £300 in the gift shop! I know which one I would choose
U16 tickets from £25 to £66 so they don't wanna go anymore but he thinks its fair enough cos it means the club will sign an additional millionaire footballer.
It’s like me moaning about the prices of mansions! I can’t afford it so I don’t have one - simple solution support and go to your local clubs if ya can’t afford premier league tickets
Owners don't want season ticket holders, they don't spend in the clubshop week in week out. They want different supporters everyweek spending on merchandise and food
Well, in that scenario they will have no stadium atmosphere either. Tourists are more interested in taking selfies.....
only the top clubs.because they can sell out.footbal is overated and over priced.but its life today.there are far better things to spend your money on.
Exactly! They want tourists from China, from America from all over. Come to.old Trafford as a one off and get your over priced souvenirs in the gift shop like it's Disney Land!
Tbh the local supporters have been useless for a decade. All they did was sing against the glazers
Glazers said this a long time ago. They don't want "legacy fans". They know Chinese fans spend £500 in th3 club shop, plus the ticket. So thats £550 for ONE game, one seat. A season ticket holder gives them £700 for the entire season and not a penny more.
If 17 out of 20 are in debt then they're spending too much quite simply
Yes. Because of the demands of so-called supporters, most of which do not have sufficient chops.
@Mightyflynn77 so it's the fans fault that United for example spent all that money on Antony? Or Liverpool spent broke club record fees on Nunez?
@@JR-sj1jz I have never once heard any so-called supporter at any club, ever, anywhere, complain about their club spending money immediately after the event.
@@JR-sj1jzliverpool his debt free we sell to buy 😂😂😂
@Mightyflynn77 and I have never once heard of a club overpaying for a particular player because the fans forced the club to do so.
Stop paying players so much money. Salah is paid to do what he does. But he says I'm doing it so pay me more. How much do these players need , it is ego
Correct, same fans will say pay them what they want 🙃
That is why I hate the pay him what he wants
At the end of the day, it's a dick-measuring contest. 'He's getting more than me!'
Then who will keep tattoo artists in business ?
Why is Salah problem? He knows what he worth like any other job
Of course Simon defends something no football fan would agree with
If someone sees Simon Jordan walking down the street and they say to him, "Hi Simon," he would start an argument with them about how Simon isn't his name.
@@Dr.Yakub22 now this is just ridiculous. He's just calling it as he sees it and he has the holistic view to do so. He ended the sentiment by saying that the anger should be targeted at the bleeding players. So don't be a balloon towards Simon. From Australia, no worries mate!
@@dannyboy9573bollocks it's the clubs paying the players it all stops if all the fans boycott
No such thing as fans the word you’re looking for is customer. And prices go up everywhere. And you conveniently forgot the money goes to the players so is your issue the players the owners or Simon?
@@adammohamed.. Customers switch brands solely on opportunistic triggers. Fans are loyal to one brand. Perhaps there should be some 'cross dressing by hardcore supporters' next season, eh? All the Kopites have a weekend in London supporting Tottenham and the South Stand at Spurs get sent to the Kop to support the Reds. I'm sure all 30,000 supporters will be exhilerated by that suggestion, eh?
We need to start reducing player salaries and transfer fees to curb this issue. That is the real cause of the price increases and the reasons clubs are not making any money
It won't happen - the Americans are looking to steal the global game and they'll just set up in the USA with even higher salaries than currently exist.
Exactly! A lot of people are choosing to ignore this fact. That’s the root of the issue. One player on £200k/week costs the club roughly £10.5m a year for his salary alone. And that may be after costing the club £50m from their transfer fee. If the player stays at the club for 5 years, that’s an additional £42m on salaries (but don’t forget in the middle of that somewhere, the player will throw a strop that he’s not being paid enough and needs more to stay, so that may go up to £275k/week).
@ exactly just rashford and Antony are making a combined wage of over 500,000 a week. This is the reason united is not making any money. No player should make over 100,000 per week
Who’s “we” ? When you say “we” need to start reducing player salaries
@ clubs, agents , football governing agencies, sponsors. Even fans need to stop demanding clubs do everything to keep a player or demand clubs go to the market to buy expensive players.
Salary cap is the only thing that can fix it and it has to be agreed with the other big European leagues.
A salary cap would be illegal in the EU.
We are not in the EU
@@richardlewis7498 The OP referred to the other big European leagues that all are in the EU.
@@check2000 A salary cap is a restraint of trade because it potentially restricts someone's earning capacity, which is against EU laws. Now tell me why that isn't true.
Salary caps are so difficult to enforce. You can guarantee that clubs/ accountants will find ways to get around them.
What's the point giving Simon Jordan a view on this. You'd need too have suffered a little in life to have a proper opinion on it and his answer shows that, people are working longer and have surplus money??? Really
Most daft take I’ve ever heard him spout, and I tend to agree with him a lot
@@joelgrosschmidt5507he looks down at everyone
@@joelgrosschmidt5507 so do most idiots
He lost a hundred million quid, is that not suffering enough?
@williamsmith9315 is that why he bitter and talks down to people?
Transfer fees have gotten completely out of hand, has to be a big part of the price hikes
£66 for a child to watch United. Its nothing short of pure greed.
The sentiment is missing from this.
United paying players ridiculous wages, not shipping out the rubbish performers on high contracts and passing cost to fans.
Fans being charged for miss management. The wage structure is the problem. Created by the owners.
when Simon asked him where is the greed coming from he started stuttering. No one wants to admit that the player and their agents are ruining this by their wage demands and winey attitude. People blame owners because owners cant retaliate against fans, however, players can just put a transfer request and leave if the fanbase are not behind them. These wage bills and agent fees are ridicules and the owners are being held hostage by it.
Simon is giving an analytical view on how football finances work and essentially saying if the fans don’t like the tkt price increases, blame the players and agents as that’s where the moneys actually going. For most fans however, we just see the inequality and unfairness of it. The money goes into the club and we then watch as millionaires and billionaires argue over who gets a bigger piece. There’s too much allocated to the players and agents and so the owners want more, and all the while, normal fans are being priced out of going to the game. The heart and soul has long since left top tier sport as far as I’m concerned and it’s a real shame but as ever, it’s the fans who suffer. No footballer on the planet deserves the wealth they receive and most owners and broadcasters couldn’t really give 2 hoots about the fans. Thats the reality.
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Well said bro
People may have noticed that everything is up in price. As elderly people may freeze to death, maybe campaigning against tax & energy is an idea too
Campaign against tax 😂😂😂 How are we going to pay for these elderly people, then?
Premier league clubs probably make 80% of their revenue from broadcasting and advertising. I don’t see how increasing season ticket prices really has any impact for prem teams! Only thing i can think of is; they want a certain demographic to be priced out!
ticket revenue is what pays for stadium maintenance
This is where Simon is always really out of touch.
The reason many of the clubs are losing money is because they are overpaying for players and overpaying players and also because agents are making obscene amounts of money despite not directly contributing to the sport. The EPL along with oil states and oligarchs buying football clubs as their personal vanity project have been the prime reason for transfer fees and salaries rising the world over.
If this game survives it’s greed for another decade , it will either be , a working man spending a weeks wages to attend a match , or the stadium will be half filled with millionaires , like Simon Jordan .
Criticise the greedy of the players, it doesn't make sense to run football to lose money so I myself blame the greed of the players , look at Salah , how much is he on and yet he wants even more money.
To many conflict in interests for Simon now, no longer gives a good opinion it’s always depending on which club and who’s his mate and who ain’t. Times up
The players should reduces there wages by 2.5 % and that covers the tickets prices
Imagine sulking Rashford needing another new manager to get the best out of him being paid 300k per week. Fluke Shawarma missing another 300 games and getting paid £150k per week to stay home
Wrong Mr Jordan, the retirement age in the UK is 66. In 2 years time there is talk it may rise to 67?. But now it's 66.
They haven’t adjusted elderly concessions in line with retirement. Where is he getting this? Most clubs are scrapping it entirely.
Until football stops paying the ridiculous amounts for transfers, wages and agents fees this will continue. The greed in football is killing it for the fans.
The fans are a secondary issue. It’s all about the players , we pay to see the players , the players don’t pay to see us.
What's killing it for the fans is the never ending timewasting, the never-ending false injuries, the deliberate timeouts. That's the one thing that I cannot stand paying top dollar for. I expect to watch a proper game of football with 90 minutes of football, not fifteen minutes of histrionics, fakery and advert breaks for US TV.
17/20 are losing money and this is as a result of clubs spending above their means.
If you offer players more money, they aren't going to ask to see how it effects the clubs finances. They are going to take it, just like people in any other line of work.
PSG broke the market with the Neymar deal and from the money they made, Barcelona continued it signing Coutinho, Griezmann and Dembele for stupid money and offering stupid wages.
Next thing it became the norm. The clubs have created this market, not the players.
On Man Uniteds case, maybe if the Glazers invested some of their own money from time to time instead of taking mass amounts of dividends over the past 20 years, then ticket prices wouldn't have to be pushed up.
Clubs are rotten from the top
Strange how the German teams dont rip off fans but still have decent teams
One decent team that dominates
Exactly why I go to non-league now.
For 3 decades I was a regular attender of football matches, mainly at Arsenal. Ten years ago I decided that it was just too expensive and stopped going.
Working-class fans have been priced out of most PL grounds. The clubs now only want middle-class supporters and tourists.
I’ll never stop loving the game but I hate what had happened to the business side.
The clubs stopped caring about real fans years ago.
Im a Chelsea fan and have been for the past 36 years so I can only speak about my club. The problem we have is that a proper loyalty system was never put in place to reward the real fans. Every game will sell out at Stamford Bridge but what happens is you get the plastic fan and tourists turning up. Atmosphere is a joke sometimes. Last season I sat down with my son next to some tourist and he actually asked if Chelsea were playing in blue!! But if the game sells out every time then the owners couldn’t care or less about the loyal fans.
Simon has no idea about the real world.
Ridiculous statement. The question wasn't about if he thinks it's right or not. He's just stating facts about the money involved in football clubs and what the potential reasons for the hike in prices are.
Of course it's not right. Fans are what make football. But are we seriously that deluded to think money grows on trees
Everyone who goes food shopping knows how much extra we are getting rinsed this last few years, that’s just one example. I doubt Simon’s even truly noticed.
I think football in general has become far too greedy. The prices of tickets, the merchandise, players wages are insane aswell which imo isn't helping. Players imo should have a more modest wage & if they reach certain goals then they get bonuses. Surely by doing that it'd cover the cost of tickets which therefore then wouldn't be increased. It's very hard for fans these days when everything is increasing in price
Jordan: "40 years ago,there was no football on TV."
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Wasn’t the first televised game Tottenham against Nottingham Forest in 1982 ? Then there was a few games here and there for the rest of the decade before 92
The question where is the greed is staring us in the face with multi millionaire teenagers and agents. Pay them less. There is no way they should be paid 600k a week. Its ridiculous. Stronger business models where wages are % of revenue and not getting out of hand.
Wasn't Old Trafford leaking water likr a waterfall a few months ago, if the stadiums falling to pieces 30years ago whats the excuse now
What a can of worms Jimmy Hill opened up!! :)
Jordan is basically too cowardly to say: 'EPL football is no longer for British families - it's for Club 28-40 football tourists.'
This is a lazy analysis. Gate receipts arent the biggest driver of revenue; tv deals and sponsorships are. We’re receiving less tv money because of our league position, and we’ve already got a ridiculous amount of sponsorship deals, which are almost certainly structured in a way that we get more $$ based on league position. Selling a few more burgers each week isnt going to be the difference between complying with PSR or failing.
The club needs more income and to reduce expenses. Clearly, they’re looking at everyone; reducing wages, cutting ambassador roles etc, back to office, etc etc. Ticket prices are part and parcel of the same review.. it sucks, but it is what it is.
Kids prices shouldn’t go up, it’s not the kids that pay it’s the parents and it they remove the ability to afford the next generation of fans and parents being able to enjoy a game with their kids goes. Then less go and the TV costs go up, it’s lose lose. Maybe Utd should get rid of some of the players robbing salaries as a starting point
Continue on this path and in two generations football stadiums will be empty
Honestly if you don’t like the prices don’t go. Simples
That's just a clueless opinion
Learn more about it first please
Just a bit dumb really. Let’s the rich get away with whatever they want - they already have/make enough money, they don’t have to raise ticket prices (which pale in comparison to TV money, sponsorship deals etc)
The clubs will keep putting up the prices until it hurts their bottom line - and it won’t hurt their bottom line until people stop going.
@MegaMikey2006 if you don't go it wouldn't hurt them much because your ticket would just go to someone else.
Salary cap and being more substantial is the only way but won't happen because players and it's union will not allow it .
If you get the broadcasters to pay more for the deals they do it will only price up your monthly bill on sky etc even further.
You simply can't afford to price out younger fans because there the next generation otherwise you won't have people bringing kids to games.
And it's unfair on the elderly people as well
You just get tourist fans who will dilute the atmosphere in games and people will complain about that .
All you will eat is pricing people out and only the well off can afford it .
Stupid statement there are people that are going to matches since they were born and its them people that are the most loyal are being priced out of it
What else would you expect from Jordan. He is an utter tool
"Whether it's right or wrong, that's another question?" No Simon that is the question you tit
The fault lies with clubs demanding inflated fees for their players, the players and their agents demanding over the top wages (don't get me started on their short career BS ). The people paying for it all is the match going fan and to a lesser extent the tv viewer.
Simon is so bitter that he failed in football. I love it.
He literally laughs at poor people like you 😂🤣
Always good to see people with no money telling people with money how to spend it. 😂
If your not a season ticket holders and try get tickets to watch match, £240 I paid for two tickets for Liverpool v Bologna game.
Football finances should of been sorted 20 years ago there should be a wage limit on players and managers dont need Football agents why players cant sit down and discuss there own contracts is beyond me and ticket prices should have been capped long time ago,sad thing is the greed and stupidity will continue while the average person/family have to pay the increased prices
Stop moaning about it! If you don’t like it and can’t afford it, don’t go! But guess what? There’ll still be full stadiums every week, this whole complaint is pointless
Not if season ticket holders start boycotting games
Stadiums will. Be full of either transient fans or a a higher demographic, moving football in the cricket fans sphere.
@@michaelthornhill9073 But they won’t bud, thats the problem. They’re happy to protest and complain, but when it comes to actually doing something about it… Nothing
It's not pointless, it concerns a fundamental change in the whole culture of the English top tier. The only reason the Americans bought these clubs was because of 100+ years of almost entirely English traditions. Now they want the working man, even the honest middle class family man kicked out. Soon they will treat English football fans like Palestinians......
In less than two generations, football stadiums will be empty if they continue on this path. Because the elderly won’t be able to afford to go and fathers with young kids won’t be able to attend due to the price. People only see the present and not the future.
Paying someone a million a week to kick a ball is beyond ridiculous.
Would it be nice if premier league clubs players said we will keep tickets at same price and make up the difference for season. Just a thought 💭
Disgraceful human. Clubs and owners are reaping the benefits of an all time high multi billion TV rights package but still feel like they need to fleece their matchgoing supporters with ever-increasing ticket prices . It's not right on fans. Pure greed
17/20 male LOSSES.. what’s the benefit that they’re reaping
50 pound ticket to 5K. Nope, not greed right
Jordan is an elitist and despises the working class. What a sad little man
Yep his pal Jimmy Ratcliffe won't even pay tax on his billions. Scum of the earth.
He works.
...but not as a tradesman or on a National Minimum Wage. Simon Jordan appears not to give a damn about such folk. Yet these working class people were, and continue to be, the global backbone of the beautiful game.
@darrenlee9237 He employed hundreds of people.
Has your salary gone up in the past 5 years ? Has the price of chips gone in the past 5 years?
How's it not greed how much football brings in shirt prices ridiculous half time food or drink ridiculous ticket price ridiculous there's no game without fans
If you can’t afford to attend a football match - do not buy the ticket! A friend of mine bought a facility in North Carolina, USA, he turned into a very good indoor sports venue with 4 artificial turf soccer fields, every day it used reserved to the fullest by schools, leagues, academies, etc. Every year he raises the rates, renters complain, in turn they have to charge the players and their parents but my friend will not have it, he has a list of academies and schools waiting in queue to rent his facilities, just this October he showed me his schedule and all 4 of his fields are already reserved through February 2027!!! And he already made every one aware there would be an increase of certain % next September.
I am a Man Utd fan, have visited England 8 times in the past 21 years and was NEVER been able to buy a ticket to a game, they were all sold out. I know there are thousands of fans, not local, not the ones who “built” the club but many-many fans dreaming of going to a game and pay the money.
There's always tickets on general sale to buy for cup games ect.. the fact you can't get a ticket says more about you as a fan than anything else 👍
Working class people cant afford to go to games anymore! Its enough to pay increased energy prices, and the food shop has doubled over the last 3 years!
Clubs can find all sorts of ways to increase revenues with creative ways to sell advertising/sponsorship and co branding etc.. working class are the heart of every football club, taxing them mid season shows a lack of business acumen and understanding of what football is.
right wages are the issue, one week at villa wages would cover 6 sold out home game
man u one weeks wages is 11 home games. thats only one weeks so if the players took one week less money on there current deal u could almost have free attendance and much cheaper prices
Yep the new theory is turnover in fans each game, so it becomes a special occasion one off, buy in the shop, scarf, drinks, food, they want tourists now!
Simon says 'A lot of people are working longer so there's more disposable income' ...
People are being forced to work longer for 0 disposable income because of deranged, elitist pricks that are ruining this world.
I don’t know how anyone can justify removing the concession price for children.
The owners just want full price paying tourists in their stadiums, and to hell with those who would support their team week in, week out.
Football will move to the Middle East just like formula one
'Commercially hardfaced'? No Simon, you're morally bankrupt, just like the owners who are trying to fleece loyal fans.
Bought tickets to watch Arsenal not long ago, it was all foreign tourists as far as I could see around me. As it was a one off for them they were spending left right and centre in the club shop and on food and drink. These are the fans that owners want through the door instead of season ticket holders who won’t be spending that week on week.
Fans thinking that not attending will send a message, it won’t. For every fan who doesn’t attend there is somebody else ready and waiting to take your seat
Cap the players salaries! and say what you want about pre premiership times! but it was the best time to watch football and it wasn't a tourist day out,
My heart bleeds for the Tax Exhile Jim Ratcliffe, has his bank blance dropped below 60 billion.
This is why Simon is no longer the boss.
They want Corporate "Fans" , Tourists and the well heeled Prawn sandwich munching sit down at all cost brigade instead of the working class singing, chanting, swearing , shouting ,cheering , away following, stand at all cost ,Pie eating genuine Fan. Its already happening, after a goal, its polite Tennis crowd style applause from 3 ends of most grounds. They're the ones with the money.
I would argue that there iis not more disposable as Simon suggests. The 'simple' man on the street is getting hammered left and right nowadays with inflated prices hitting him at every angle.
Might be that the football bubble is bursting could be a good thing long term.
Cancel your tv subscriptions and they’ll notice
Absolutely.. 👍🏽
As Jonathan Pie said.. "We live in an economy, not a society".
Well the keyboard warriors have drawn me in here...
A lot of hate towards Simon as if he's saying the price increases are right. He's just giving some potential reasons for why the increase has come about. Hes not saying he agrees with it!
But what fans seem to not be able to answer or are avoiding is the simple question....where isnthe money going to come from?
Seems to be there needs to be a genuine discussion around wage caps, different revenue streams etc
Money doesnt grow on trees!
What Simon is saying is that the club owners are not greedy people. Assuming you agree, its amazing that you both can say this with a straight face
@mikezappa of course they are wanting to make money! No-one saying they aren't. And of course after investing millions they want some of it back. Wouldn't you! Or you telling me you'd invest in a club and just waste money. I'm not saying they aren't trying to make money. How about we have a serious conversation without the emotion.
Investor/owners put in a hell of a lot of money right. Whether it's their own or on behalf of a investment fund. She should they get something back or just throw money away? How do they claim it back? What's the right way?
Do fans want investors/owners to fork out money for stadiums or to get the best players and pay the best wages, of course they do? What's the solution? Do we have wage caps?
Are clubs building up debt in order to invest in stadium upgrades? What do we do here?
My point is that none of it is ideal or sustainable. Fans shouldn't pay more but the don't expect owners to invest all their money for nothing. What's the solution?
Simon has a point in that clubs need to maximise revenues. But it’s on fans. If prices are so high then they shouldn’t attend games. They should not attend games
Simon is on the take, this man is no longer qualified to be expected to show any journalistic integrity. Disgusting.
Simon has never claimed to be a journalist.
Simon has always been a radio jockey, not a journalist.
Let me give you an advice , if you cant afford it dont buy it , simple as that
@@Rocky-w5rhe has written columns throughout his career, including his own in the sun.
He just likes to seperate himself all the time as not being "the media"
@@Dr.Yakub22 Disc Jockey
Where United has erred over the last 10 years or so is not increasing prices gradually to match inflation. They kept prices flat for the most part, and now they have to catch up
How can you want superstar driven, successful teams without understanding the financial reality of chasing that outcome. Every week I hear of fans screaming for big signings, booing managers whose teams stumble. They want their team to bring silverware. It costs. It’s terrible that lots of fans can’t afford to go watch their beloved teams but you reap what you sew.
Simon is spot on. If we want the best, guess what, you have to pay for it.
What Simon says would be right in principle if the cost being covered was Brunos wages and not Mason Mounts. The cost has to reflect the experience.
Failed club owner crying Simon😅😅😅
Rashford gets paid £175k per game on average to be average. Shocking to charge over 200% increase for sulking rashford
£175k?
Last contract was £325k before bonuses.
Even with a deduction for not being in CL he is on more than £175k.
@@albertbrammer9263 325k before tax?
After liverpool game on Sunday a couple of pundits were saying...give Salah what he wants or something along those lines..
Now obviously his wages would save club losing on transfer fee or replacing him but some of elite players want to play less football but guaranteed wouldn't take less money..
Not a dig at player it's short career but ask most top players if they would take a 1% cut of wages to save ticket price going up and it would interesting to see how many would do so.
Just like how fans want bad players to replaced with better players ,it's about time some fans are replaced with better fans who spend more money.
Greedy players/agents are driving up the prices
Usually agree with Simon but the reason clubs aren't making money is their own mismanagement.. it should not be up to supporters to make up the short fall... they will still ramp up their mismanagement as turnover goes up.
United went years under the glazers without price increases. We’re over 400m in transfer debt, we’re at the PSR limit, we have a bunch of players we can’t sell due to an egotistical transfer strategy under Woodward, we’ve been out of the champions league (or dumped out early) for multiple seasons… there’s no money. Ineos need to cut costs and increase revenue wherever they can. Ticket prices are an easy lever to pull on, and they have to do it. Not pulling out any violins here; id rather they didnt have to do it, but it’s an unfortunate reality.
United fans want Ten Hag to be sack and United to pay release clause for Amorin. They also want the club to buy more players to win trophies but somehow don't want to pay more to watch the team. I am still trying to make sense of it
Clubs are cooking their books to pay less tax. Stop blaming players wages. The amount of money they make from tv and sponsors. Shouldn’t have to fleece their fans.
If football club owners do not make money, then surely clubs need to do the decent thing and cap wages. The players would still play football whether they earn £300k a week or £3k a week.
Football needs to get a grip of itself. What surprises me is that fans have not realised how powerful they actually are...simple solution is to boycott games and boycott buying merchandise.
Players earn 300K weekly to sit on the bench or in the stands. The tickets could never pay these wages. There is no Greed. The club needs to be more competently managed. A Football club is not profitable. It is to make money from other activities.
The greed is campaigning for brexit then moving to Monaco to pay 0 tax despite getting your desired outcome. He could pay tax, he can afford to pay tax, he just chooses not to. Simon talks economic reality. THEN increasing prices drastically
Simon just reminding people his feet haven't touched the ground in many years.
Shock! Simon siding with the owners!😂
Supply and demand. No one is forcing you to go. The premier league is a global competition now. You all scream for the best players, where do you think the money comes from? TV rights all around the world. I’ve watched English football all my life for 40 years, no way I can watch my team and rock up and buy a GA ticket or online. Only chance I have is buying a hospitality ticket that will cost me a couple hundred quid. Don’t like it support a local non league team where you can stand have a cigarette and no one is busting your balls. Or, go for a two day trip to Germany & watch a bundesliga game.
Simon Jordan, what a anchor
It costs more to watch Brighton than it does to watch United. It costs more to watch Villa, Newcastle, and Liverpool… the prices arent crazy, sorry
Simon wants footballers/fans in the Gulag!
If supporters want their wonderful heroes to be paid crazy money you need to pay for it…if you don’t like it don’t go. If you can’t afford it tough. I can’t afford doing what I like. That’s life. Change your hobby. Easy. I’d love to go watch Hans Zimmer but the 200/300 ticket price has priced me out sadly…for me
Not greed, stupidity.
Spending Millions on Forever Hospitalized Luke Shaw, while firing loyal staff and increasing ticket prices for loyal fans who come and watch this failed club playing horrible football week in and week out.
Fans paying for the glazers mismanagement of the club. Paying for their debt.
Liverpool don't buy player s9 no need for ticket hikes
01:00 what a bunch of crybabies.
Supply vs demand, Football is now a luxury item, the same as the theatre or a fancy dinner if you don’t like it stop paying!
At the end of the day football is now a business, as a business owner if you could have…
a season ticket holder who pays £1200 and spends nothing else for the entire season
OR
A different tourist every week spending £300 in the gift shop!
I know which one I would choose
U16 tickets from £25 to £66 so they don't wanna go anymore but he thinks its fair enough cos it means the club will sign an additional millionaire footballer.
It’s like me moaning about the prices of mansions! I can’t afford it so I don’t have one - simple solution support and go to your local clubs if ya can’t afford premier league tickets