DEADPOOL & WOLVERINE: TVA's New EVIL PLAN Revealed by Cinemacon Footage
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What if... Paradox is just Cassandra Nova in disguise?
In the Deadpool comics, the "bad guys" always assume Wade is moron who can be easily manipulated with money, power, etc. In the end Wade always sees through the BS and just goes along with it to have some kicks and does the right thing in the end.
This makes sense and I can see this happening. I guess this would even also explain why this section of the TVA looks different than the other sections we see in Loki seasons 1-2. We already saw Dox lead a group of old head loyalist TVA agents that couldn't see past Kang's lies. So, it makes sense that some of the loyalists would see that Loki is just too powerful now to be stopped directly and it would be in their best interests to bring in someone fresh to take Loki down indirectly. I'm assuming Deadpool will realize that he's doing more harm than good somewhere in the second act, which could be when he's sent to the Void where he reunites with Wolverine.
I always love your theories, but I feel like you guys put way more thought into the story than the actual writers do 😜
I believe that too hahaha
I believe that too... Lol 😂😂
True, except for the writer(s) of X-Men '97... 🥺
I think the theories are actually better than most of the crap Marvel has shit out lately.
Absolutely!
0:45 wait a minute… how the heck have y’all not created Dougpool merch yet?!!! It’s such a no brainer. I feel like it should’ve been the first Super Doug design y’all cooked up! Get on the ball. The streets need Dougpool merch! ❤
Since Owen Wilson was confirmed to return as Mobius shortly after Deadpool & Wolverine was announced, I can see a point in the third act where Mobius shows up in the Void to meet Deadpool & Wolverine and take them back to the TVA so they can kill the loyalists since he already has seen what Dox and her platoon did to the Scared Timeline. Though, I don't know if he'll actually have the technology to actually send Deadpool & Wolverine to the end of time so they can meet Loki and discuss what's happening in the multiverse at the end of the film.
When was he confirmed haven’t saw it anywhere
If I see mobius, I’m screaming in that theatre
I think a lot of leakers or sources confirmed that owen wilson won’t be appearing as mobius anymore.
He isn't in the movie
He wasn’t confirmed to return that was just a report
What if: The timelines the were being actively pruned were the ones with X-Men and the Fantastic 4, but due to Loki s2, theyre now allowed to "exist".
*”POOLVERINE: Feigi à Deux”* is gonna be awesome!!
😂
THANKS for this, Doug and Ryan (and Coburn)!!!!!
It was called the loom the thruput multiplier was what they tried to use to fix the loom
Smell like Randy Johnson! That's a deep cut. And bold of you to mess with a dude who exploded a bird with a fastball that one time
All you saw was a swooning bird, a Randy Johnson fastball, and feathers. Murderer.
Keep doin what you do man we all love your work ❤❤
@8:05 then i got a click.. keeping the theme of three “villains “. Deadpool isn’t opposed to killing / so paradox probably assumes he wouldn’t be opposed to pruning timelines.
Bro manages to squeeze all the ads he possibly can in these videos damn
With all the cameo were getting sound about right.
I am absolutely loving how Marvel is validating the existence of the fox movies and adding them to what they have. For example the two previous Spidermans.
@6:16 in the Deadpool comics wade actually looks up to captain America like genuine respects him
616 mentioned
Why do you think there's still a sacred Timeline in Deadpool & Wolverine?
Probably takes place before Loki
Yes
@@mykkimc521it asks why
Heres my theory we still have separate groups in the trailer. Perhaps this group only refers to the timeline. As the sacred timeline and only gose off the the plan of he who remains so they only take care of 616 and will clip the other branches
idk.
Nice idea. We'll find out soon...
I just hope the edginess from the 2 previous films will remain in this, and not make it dirty in any way
It will be better
Great theory!
Spoiler Alert!!! He’s one of the fans contributing to the “writing a movie in my head, then mad it doesn’t happen they way he thought it should”
so just your average nerd?? lol
"An occursion occurs....." 😂😂 Every damn vid 😂😂😂
I hated everything about that. If weren't for She Hulk already having done it, I'd say if your theory confirms, "jumping the shark" assumes a new meaning.
I was driving and trying to quickly start a video to listen to.
I read "Cinemacon" like one pronounces bacon.
@8:05 I was thinking if paradox’s department is rebels still believing in pruning how could replacing wade with Loki benefit them
in Loki S02 they have TVA Agents monitoring people on the timelines too, Hunter X5 is Brad Wolfe.
I see the office reference you did there 😂
I thought they were writing Kang out of the MCU? I thought Disney decided to distance themselves from Jonathan Majors... 😅😂
I knew those tv screens werent what we were getting it's like a perfectly placed image on a screen that can be changed
Y’all literally have the best jobs lol
So because he made a birthday wish, that's why the TVA showed up? LOL!
Notice how the mcu has been real quiet about female Loki..
ok buddy
👏👏👏👏well done 👍
Yeah because Deadpool certainly gives off the vibe of “easily being controlled and manipulated”
Avengers 69 1969 Kang gets the Avengers to fight for him in a battle against the Grandmaster.
Good break down. We should get what we saw in Loki with slight alterations.. I’m sure Paradox Is actually using Deadpool how Sebastian Shaw used Magneto in days of future past
Ohh, I thought Wade was working at Screen Crush, I saw the blue polo and name tag, and just assumed...
Deadpool is the new God of Mischief confirmed. He just says fuck more.
The scene of Deadpool replacing Loki and the concept of him replacing Loki just reminds me of Deadpool’s Secret Secret Wars so much
I wonder if Wade will reference Paradox name with the song of 666 quoting the Phrase Que passa Paradox?! Jokes apart he could be of the same fraction of General Dox.
Minor technical point from a British pedant 😀
You got the spelling and pronunciation wrong for Matthew MacFadyen.
The 'd' and the 'y' are the other way around (on the screen, you had MacFayden) and hence the pronunciation is, essentially, "McFadden"
You had me until the return of Kang was a possibility 😂
Loki was alright. Might actually be the best character journey of any of the movies films etc all in all well done.
very interesting theory as usual
I just have one question, HOW DOES CASSANDRA NIVA FIT INTO ANY IF THIS?
secret timeline is in quantum as explained in last ant man
Hi Ryan. What about Cassandra Nova? If she is indeed in the movie, the Kang theory doesn't stand...
TVA followed him back to his apartment.
The Randy Johnson slander was out of pocket lol
Yeah, I feel like despite her role in the comics, Cassandra Nova being a villain in any aspect of the Multiverse saga would make zero sense at this point, there's just absolutely no build up for it, and the conceit that she would work as a villain in this saga because "well comics!" is just not enough for general film going audiences to latch onto. Personally I hope everyone theorizing Cassandra Novas potential involvement in any of these upcoming projects is just wrong, I hope the marvel screenwriters are better than that kind of out of left field "fan service", fan theories don't always make good cinema.
I thought Cassandra Nova was confirmed as the villian for Deadpool 3
Love this and hope it is what happens.
I don’t think it’s the TVA, and don’t think Deadpool is saving anything. I think he’s being tricked into killing the FoX-Men universe
I just find it super interesting they are pushing Secret Wars so hard in DP3 then Cap4 and Thunderbolts are gonna come out, and it will be put on back burner.
Pretty sure kang is not a thing anymore.
Why the Randy Johnson smell reference?
The sacred time tree... Just doesn't flow as well
I'd be surprised if it dives that deep into the events of Loki. The movies rarely do that with the shows. Look at Dr. Strange 2. He goes to meet Wanda for the first time and the events in Westview are just handwaved away. How much of Ms. Marvel is talked about in the Marvels? Not much. Secret Invasion wasn't mentioned at all. The GotG Holiday Special isn't brought up in vol. 3 either.
Exactly! I think in order to make more plausible theories, this channel and its writers need to realize that the movies will always, justifiably or not, assume that general audiences did not watch or remember the Disney+ tv shows that built up to the movies, which in addition to the overlapping production schedules is why they always appear to "reset" the characters in the movies despite wherever they last left off in the show. At best we get a hand waving of the shows events. Hell I bet that in Cap 4, we will get a quick 2-3 sentence recap as to why he's in the suit and has the shield, no mention of the flagsmashers or Sharon or Walker or potentially even Bucky.
Mantis being revealed as Quill's sister was a pretty big plot point that 100% carried over
I have a question, if one breaks the fourth wall to address the audience, what earth are they speaking to?
Never forget what Randy Johnson did to that bird!
You guys remember The Doctor Strange photo and the rumor of Deadpool in the poster? U guys think it was a teaser that he’ll be apart of the multiverse?
The Road to Deadpool and Wolverine is getting very exciting!
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I’m still holding out that Vanessa and Sugar Bear (Peter) are an item now and that it only happened because Wade saved him at the end of the last one.
Your theory is pretty cool and well put together. I continue to worry that D&W will get too overstuffed with trying to advance the multiverse saga and not enough time on just being A Deadpool Movie and A Wolverine Movie.
Like, it'd be kind of sad if the 9 minutes of footage at CinemaCon was the only time we got to see most of the Deadpool Family, like Vanessa and Dopinder and all the gang, there.
That's very likely to happen, sorta like not seeing the Antman heist crew in Quantumania, just too much plot to deal with
There is no Paradox or TVA. It was always the beyonder playing games and setting up battleworld
i dont think the TVA will be villains in deadpool. I think the main issue will be that there are two or maybe even three timelines running adjacent to one another in the same universe (the fox universe) and since Deadpool is unique and can see all three simultaneously and exist in all three as a single entity, he is unique to try to somehow be tasked with merging them, but its all going to go wrong and some stuff gets lost that isn't supposed to get lost or starts ending up in the MCU because of shenanigans so something he does lets Cassandra Nova loose and then he has to hunt her down, however he can only use characters who are going to effectively be "deleted" in case they die. hence why a guy named Paradox is giving him this task, someone who deals with time anomalies.
It's a good theory and it makes sense, but I seriously doubt the writers will come up with something that smart. Still not convinced they even took into account the events of Loki season 2 or even all of season 1.
I can’t lie this theory is extremely plausible I’d be shocked if this wasn’t the plot of the movie
Wouldn't it be a great way to introduce Death by making it seem as if Deadpool dies, but he actually lives and that passes Death off, so she revives Thanos (who we all know was in love with Death) to bring her Deadpool?
I want to see Deadpool get serious angry. Would be nice to see mobius, maybe mobius is the one that tellls Deadpool what’s really going on, I think that would be fitting
My take on the story: The TVA is letting the Fox universe die, following on from Wolverine's death in Logan, who had been key to that universe staying alive. They try to remove Deadpool from that universe to speed up it's death, but Deadpool decides he needs to save the Fox universe and travels the multiverse to get a new Wolverine to replace Logan. He'll meet lots of Wolverines and other fox universe people, eg, Blade (Wesley Snipes version, not the new guy!)
I was also at CinemaCon. The new title of Thunderbolts is Thunderbolts* (with an asterisk). Rumor is Deadpool will be joining the team! Any thoughts? Let the ruminating begin!
I definitely believe that the "Sacred Timeline" was a bundle of multiple nearly identical timelines rather than literally one single timeline; after all, if the TVA was OK with the Avengers' time heist then that means they were OK with at least one alternate timeline existing where Captain America lived out his life alongside Peggy (and quite possibly with another timeline's Steve secretly living in the main MCU's timeline with her all along).
How do you know how Randy Johnson smells?
I hope you make a video on the deadpool designed by himself popcorn bucket
So the tva has been slowly bringing in mutants like in the marvels, now with Deadpool and wolverine
This is a stretch. I appreciate you all connecting so many dots, but it reeks of the Wanda/Mephisto theory again.
What's wrong with Randy Johnson? man had a killer fastball (literally).
I think the story is going to be more straightforward. So much of the movie will be focused on the dynamic between Deadpool and Wolverine that I don't think they'll have the time for a plot that's too complicated.
It'll probably be something like Cassandra Nova trying to get into the TVA so she can build a supercharged Cerebro and use it to mind control entire universes. And the TVA is trying to stop her but her psychic powers are too strong so they need Deadpool, who's too crazy to be mind controlled.
Anyone else thing Paradox is He Who Remains from another universe?
I’m Succession’s Michael McFadden. He’s Succession’s Matthew Mac-FAD-i-yen. You’re not the only one who gets us confused.
I really want to love Deadpool 3 but I wish I didn’t NEED to see Loki to like it. I did see it it, and enjoyed it, but that’s the one of my issues with the current mcu, the marvels was incoherent without watching the Disney plus shows
I've learned to live with skipping entire movies (even seasons, in the case of marvel series) and then not knowing what's going on in the next one. It's a trade-off, honestly. Nothing will get me to watch things like the immortals or captain marvel or morbius, and the way things are going I see myself skipping a lot of the upcoming stuff too.
Still Kang Gang...😈👽👿
I wonder if we're going to see what happened to Ravonna in Deadpool & Wolverine, maybe she was either pruned by Alioth or she tamed it.
Hopefully this ends on a high note, cuz apparently that was just a warmup ep and X-Men '97 somehow gets MUCH crazier.
still not ok... 🥺
How do you know what Randy Johnson smells like? And do you mean the baseball player?
Deadpool as the Scapegoat for all the bad events in the timelines? Lmao
@1:57 so it seems the tva we get in tva is older sect who was part of the he who remains regime
Sounds good in theory but doesn’t account for Cassandra Nova (unless you’re just gonna say she made Paradox do it)
your theory is nice, but too complicated, it's still a film about deadpool, I don't expect such an elaborate plot and anyway something that would take away a lot of importance from wolverine
I was waiting for someone else to say this. I've been saying this since the super bowl trailer aired
evertrying thing in the video ?
So, if this all goes into DP’s wallbreaking and prevents paradoxes from time manipulation; then She-Hulk has to be in this. If wall breaking is DP’s true power, Jen was always first and shown to be able to rewrite a bad ending to a show while ignoring logic. If X-23 is in the movie, we might get a she-hulk vs X-23 fight.
Wait, Colton got out of the TV?? How?? When?? Why??
That is a very heavy theory. It makes sense. I'm so stoked to see this film. It's going to be hilarious if Wade is really the MCU Jesus.😂😂😂
Ryan, this video is wayy better than your last one about X-Men 97'. I couldn't watch it all the way through even though the intro was hysterical... But I stopped watching New Rockstars because of one of your guests and the other one made me feel bad about loving Marvel as much as I do. Your buddy in the TV is great along with your cute puppy. Some of the things you say as him are brilliant. I lost my Shih Tzu a few months ago and your little buddy reminds me of her... Thank you for all the content, your attention to detail has seriously helped with Marvel not making close to perfect content anymore.
I would be way more excited for Marvel and Deadpool three if Jonathan Majors was still Kang. Marvel should’ve just kept him. They’re wasting so much potential and so many story lines.
Wait!!! You let him out of the tv!?!?!?!😳😳😳
How could Wade ever fight a wolverine with berserker?