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I love this channel, I get a thirst for reading and learning more, but also a bit stressed about all the new books I want to get 😂 I'd like some Vernon material to be reprinted, like the inner secrets trilogy 👍
My goal is never to create discontentment, but rather to introduce you to new possibilities and help you make an informed decision with your hard-earned dollars. Thanks for taking time to comment, and don't worry - you have the rest of your life to acquire, read, and perform with your magic library. Merry Christmas!
Kaufman’s ad in Genii said the new version of Greater Magic will be coming in 2025 and will be 3 volumes at 900 pages each(!). Better start saving now!
Great list. Aside from the ones you named that I already have, you listed the top of my wantlist. There's a few on this list that I regret letting fall through my fingertips.
@@EruditeMagic I was buying books from a guy a couple months ago and he mentioned some books he was putting up for sale soon. Darren Brown being one of them. I didn't even bother to ask him the price cause I didn't have the budget for any big purchases. He put it up for sale publicly for like $40-50. I should've at least asked what he planned to sell it for. I would've paid that in a second.
A terrific list of books to have. I do have the card magic of Nick Trost but a printed copy. But all these are great books, that should be reprinted. Great reviews👍😊👍😊👍
Agree with all of your top 10! Also, another book that I've always heard about but never read is Unreal by Bruce Bernstein... Would love to see that reprinted
I got it when it was reprinted the first time. Bernstein is a great thinker, but I'm not sure how much he performed. 🤷🏻 Some of the ideas read better than I think they would play. Nevertheless, I've learned from it and will perform his material in the future. There's also a lot of diversity in the material
I am interested in the list, but what needs to really be reprinted--just to save the material--are all of the booklets and comb-bound books (as well as the short run periodicals) put out by Karl Fulves. This is some of the best material in magic and it was published in formats that both had limited distribution and are prone to be easy to damage. A bound multi-volume set of Fulves is desperately needed, if only for archival and historical purposes. If I had the rights and all of the Fulves material (I think I have only about half), I would find a way to do it myself. Beyond that, the Vernon Books by Ganson (and the Vernon Chronicles series) that were last published by L&L should never be allowed to go out of print again. The Elmsley set from L&L. Goldstein's Lisp series. Pure Effect and Absolute Magic by Derren Brown. The Secrets of Bro. John Hamman by Kaufman. Williamson's Wonders by Kaufman. Complete Works of Derek Dingle by Kaufman, Lifesavers by Weber, Totally Out of Control by Kenner. Some of the Miracle Factory stuff like Art and Magic, Neo-Magic Artistry, and Benson by Starlight. The Card Magic of Nick Trost. The Barrie Richardson Trilogy (Theater of the Mind appears to gone already). I believe Drawing Room Deceptions is unavailable although it may be reprinted. The Ramsay Trilogy by Galloway. The Nash Trilogy by Minch. Eric Lewis' Crown Trilogy. Mind and Magic of David Berglas. The Berglas Effect by Kaufman and Showtime at the Tom-Foolery by Kaufman
@@EruditeMagic On the Vanishing Inc website there this button for out of print books "email when back in stock" - isn't using that button also a good way to help them determine which book is still in high enough demand?
I haven't been a big fan of Jay Sankey's over the years, but his Vanishing Inc. Trilogy is DEFINITELY his best material. You don't have to sift through the other stuff to find the good stuff; it's all in this trilogy. Andi Gladwin has hinted that it may be reprinted in the near future.
Indeed he [Andi] has. I think the big knock on Sankey is also his biggest strength: continuous output. When you continually put things out, you're bound to have some dogs along with the winners. But the set has too much value to stay OOP...
Since I got into magic in late 2012 I’ve wanted a copy of “Greater Magic”! I was very lucky to purchase a digital version of the “Card Magic of Nick Trost” for a few dollars from an LLePub sale a few years back. (I got all the Vernon books, Carney, Jennings, and more when they would have sales. I don’t mind digital at all). I really, really hope they reprint Johnny Thompson’s book. His “Commercial Classics of Magic” series is one of my got-to’s and I’ll treasure both volumes of his book for a long time. I didn’t know that “The Definitive Sankey” was formatted like that! That’s awesome!
As always, I thoroughly enjoyed seeing your list. I also enjoyed reading the suggestions of other viewers (and the readers of MBA). I would agree with nearly all of your list and the others additions. I have been extremely fortunate over the years in my purchases as I own every book in your list and those suggested by others. The only exception is that although I own a lot of Karl Fulves' books, I don't own all of them. I was very fortunate to actually spend an afternoon with Nick Trost and Al Thatcher on March 5, 1999. I was on my way to Akron for a hot air balloon safety seminar and I contacted Mr. Thatcher about visiting him on my way and asked if there might be other magicians I could also meet. He said he'd invite Mr. Trost over. It was an amazing afternoon spent with two amazing and wonderful magicians. I was able to have Mr. Trost autographed several of his books/booklets including The Card Magic of Nick Trost (1997). I missed my one chance to meet Ted Lesley. He lectured in Kansas City near Thanksgiving some years ago and I wanted to go, but I didn't want to make the 2-hour drive by myself. I've regretted that decision ever since. What would I add to the list? Although I own copies, I think Stewart James in Print: The First Fifty Years (1989) and The James Files (2000) should be reprinted. The Marlo Magazines in hardcover would be great. James Biss's Messing with Minds (2005) and Mind Blowing Menatlism (2008) might be nice to see reprinted.. However, Biss has become a controversial figure in magic. Hardcovers of these two book are hard to find. Messing with Minds was released as a numbered edition of 333 and Mind Blowing Mentalism was released as a numbered edition of 666. Both had paperback releases. He originally was going to write a third book, but criminal and legal issues sidetracked him. At the time the books were released, they were acclaimed. I don't know where they stand these days. Seeing some of the L&L books reprinted would be nice, especially Annemann: The Life and Times of a Legend compiled with commentary by Max Abrams (1992)
Thanks for your [always thoughtful] feedback! That's pretty cool that you got to meet some of these guys and have made some good good purchases over the years. As far as the Annemann book, I don't love that one. It's clunky and plain, IMO. I far prefer the Miracle Factory's Annemann's Enigma
@@EruditeMagic I guess I should clarify. All of my suggestions are actually books I do own. They're just ones I think maybe others in the magic/mentalism community would like to have reprinted so they'd be able to have access to them.
Great video and list like always. I have Volume 2 of the Sankey works and hoping to get 1 and 3. Here are some others I’m wanting to get -The Classic Magic of Larry Jennings - Williamson’s Wonders -Carneycopia - Tangled Web Others have been shared in the comments as well. Hoping I can pick these up some day.
Did some research on why Pure Effect and Absolute Magic were pulled, and it turns out that it's because Derren Brown was uncomfortable with fans tracking down his earlier work and buying it as laymen. He noticed that a strangely large amount of his lay fans had bought Pure Effect or Absolute Magic, and so before he published his more "layman friendly" works like Trick of The Mind and Confessions Of A Conjuror, he asked H&R to pull the two previous works as not to violate the boundaries between latpeople and working magicians.
I'd love to see a reprint of the 2-volume Collected Works of Alex Elmsley. I managed to get vol. 1 on the aftermarket, but you can't get vol. 2 for love nor money!
Looks like it 😁. I’m lucky in that I bought my copies of Pure Effect and Absolute Magic from Penguin when they were just averagely overpriced magic books. Absolute Magic is the source of one of my favorite quotes - “ There are many tricks, and many effects, but rarely a Grand Effect. There are many entertainers, but few real magicians. Many technicians, but few artists who use their art to explore their vision.”
Got Pureffect last year. I wasn't that impressed with it. Mainly because it is all card tricks. I was looking for his thoughts and ideas concerning mentalism, sadly they are not to be found in that book. I eventually stumbled upon a book from another author from that era that is certainly a book Derren must have studied. It is also out of print, and super hard to find. I will give Pureffect another try though. The card tricks are quite brilliant. I recently stumbled across a video on UA-cam from a VHS tape of him demonstrating most of the tricks in that book. Very inspiring.
I have a copy of Pure Effect and the other one, the name of which escapes me for the moment. What's striking about those early Derren Brown books is how young he must have been when he wrote them -- in many ways, they read like obvious juvenalia -- filled with rebellious dirty jokes and hat tips to Jerry Sadowitz. Yet at the same time, he appears to have had a close (correspondance) relationship with Teller. I'm sure both of those books pre-date his mentalist TV fame, yet he was clearly a deep thinker on the subject of magic -- hugely sophisticated for somebody so young -- and appears to have impressed all manner of much older, much more experienced magicians. Books like Pure Effect are really at the very heart of what I love about magic books, displaying a passion for scholarship and theory that in some sense is about as far removed from the $15 packet trick as you could hope to be, and yet at the same time, acknowledging the very close connection to the world of the Svengali Deck and others of it's ilk. I'd really like a copy of Greater Magic. I know it's not rare, but I've yet to come across a decent copy. As ever, Kaufman will do a wonderful job with the reprint -- but I'd love to see an el-cheapo Dover edition that made it available to anyone with $15 or $20 in their pocket.
It absolutely would, but I don’t see it happening. Kaufman has explained that the rights situation is quite dicey, as the Warren estate is a complicated, not-entirely-harmonious collection of separate entities.
How fun when the rights holders are so caught up in profiting from their ancestor's work that they don't make any money (because can't get along to see it published). Glad Kaufman secured the rights that he did - looking forward to seeing the final product
Our founders viewed what we now call “intellectual property”, that is, the ability to be the exclusive source fits distributing or disposing of one’s creation, as not really a natural right. So the constitution gives government the power to grant creators a monopoly on the distribution of their creations on the premise that that grant of license would benefit society, and would only be granted for a limited time. Now that rightsholders who are often not creators have hacked the laws in their favor, copyrights can be extended indefinitely and properties can be withheld instead of made available, in direct contravention of the founders idea. In my opinion, it should be the case that you use your copyright or lose it, and that copyrights should not exist in perpetuity.
The artful mentalism by Bob Cassidy is the one I've been looking for a long while, although I am a proud owner of The Jinx. I am still in search of The artful mentalism.
@Erudite Magic From Volume 1, the trick I have performed the most is 1002nd Aces. From Volume 2, I really love chapter 6, Faro Tapestries. Hard to pick one trick.
I had known you could still get Dear Mr Fantasy, in paperback, from Bannon himself, but I noticed he has moved it to the "no longer available" category. :(
Back when I originally reviewed it, you could still buy the paperback from him. I believe the reprint will be hard back [again] through Squash Publishing
@@EruditeMagic every book by Mr. Kronzek is really good. He has written what may be the best introduction to magic book for young people ever--and it is not bad for adults either. Grandpa Magic is a perfect book for the target audience.
Scams & Fantasies by Darwin Ortiz has been out of print for a while - so annoying!!! The grainy PDF copies out there do not do it justice. Hopefully this comes back into print soon. Love your channel!
I spoke to Andi Gladwin about a month ago re the Sankey books. He did not know if or when they would be republished. He said that it would cost £100,000.00 to get ready to republish and I don’t think that VI could take this risk. Contact VI if you want them to be republished.
Super controversial, and I could never truly suggest a reprint out of respect for the magician. I have always wanted to be able to read “the Harbin book” just once. I really enjoy reading books from people who think differently. Great list by the way🙌
For me, it's Scams and Fantasies with Cards by Darwin Ortiz, Totally Out of Control by Chris Kenner and Williamson's Wonders by David Williamson. I did pick up the reprints of Juan Tamariz's Sonata and David Roth's Expert Coin Magic, so that's two off my list.
@@EruditeMagic Awesome tip. Never thought of doing that actually. Just saw that Totally out of Control recently sold for about $150. Probably a much more accurate price estimate than $400.
I believe they sold a lot of their back stock in an effort to pare down. Don bought a good bit of that, so maybe he'll share more. They are not out of business, though. They republished the Trost Subtle Card Creations Book 1 this past year, as well as a second edition of Lewis Jones's Seventh Heaven. And, they are publishing the 9th (and final!) book in the Trost series in early 2023.
How about The Doors of Deception by Paul Vigil. Also I'd like your opinion on digital magazines and not being able to download them. I understand it is because the publisher is afraid of us sharing digital copies, but I can read and give away a printed copy just as easy. We should be able to keep what we buy digitally. What do you think?
I don't have any Paul Vigil books. 🤷🏻 For better or worse, it seems like the trend with digital. The world has moved away from physical ownership, and most people are comfortable paying for a subscription to access their purchases. I agree that if you are buying something outright, you should be able to download it. Out of curiosity, what's the magazine?
@EruditeMagic. I don't have any of Paul's books either, but I have heard it's great. I don't want to call the magazine out by name online. I'll tell you at magifest ( I'm assuming you are going again).
Personally, i’m not sure I buy the “there isn’t enough of a demand” thing. But I don’t see the behind the scenes, so maybe im wrong. I’m sure I am wrong. But to me, especially with the big companies like Vanishing Inc, Murphys who now owns L&L, and penguin who owns Hermetic, I just don’t see the issue with reprinting the old classics. I mean it’s been long enough since Bannons books went out of print, that there’s now a new generation of magicians who are missing out on that material. it only makes sense to reprint them. I really do hope the sankey books get reprinted. and maybe even include a 4th volume since Jay now has more material since it’s release.
I think it's more complex than that. The book market is a niche within a niche. It's far easier than you think to incur costs that you won't recoup, especially on something that already took a while to sell out the first time. Anyway, there will be a lot more books coming in the future (both old and new)!
@@EruditeMagic oh, i’m sure. like i said, there’s a lot I do not see or understand. And i try to not that that persuade my way of thinking. To me, and i’m sure to others, it seems as easy as flicking a switch and the printers in the back of the warehouse print away. Obviously we know that isn’t the case.. maybe that could be a good idea for a video. especially since you with with VI now, maybe a behind the curtain look into how these books are made and the decisions behind them
I understand. I don't know why, but those guys have never been my favorites (ducking the incoming volley 🏹🪓💣💥). A lot of their best creations have been done better in subsequent publications. 🤷🏻
I have the Dingle book. I don’t find it that impressive. There’s a fun Ace assembly at the end that uses a bunch of extra cards, but Kaufman says it was specifically designed to fool magicians and would be wasted on laymen.
Thanks for the great video, Jeff! I take the chance to ask one question, maybe you or someone else here knows the answer - is Simon Aronson's "Simply Simon" still in print? It is out of stock on all online dealers that I have checked. Vanishing Inc. support says that it might be discontinued (even though the product page lists it simply as out of stock). Thanks!
No problem. By definition, it's OOP if you can't get it at the manufacturer. It may get harder to find his works now that he's passed. I think he printed them himself for the most part. Hope you can find a copy!
@@EruditeMagic Yes, that's actually the point - it is not clear (at least to me) if it is still possible to get it at the manufacturer. It is still possible to send a Paypal payment on Simon Aronson's website, but it is not evident (again, to me) if the site is still maintained after he passed away. I have sent an email to address listed under "contacts" a couple of weeks ago but have got no reply at the moment. Anyway, Aronson's books are such big classics that I hope this will become available again soon! 🤞
@@EruditeMagic -- I'm like the kid in the marshmallow experiment -- I'd eat it now! Still, there is a great sense of satisfaction when it finally appears. One a week just isn't enough for me!
Copyright laws are problematic. It is criminal for publishers to restrict access to books on the basis of profit, given publishers did not write the books. Exorbitant prices, while giving advantage to first buyers, are not the solution either. So we are stuck with a failed market - rife with shortages and piracy.
Meh.? 🤷🏻😄 I have them, but feel like they're not an invaluable resource, and certainly not the exclusive place to learn Vernon material. His best magic is printed far and wide in any number of resources: Stars of Magic, Greater Magic, Jinx, etc., or in a newer book with a better version of his original. There's got to be a downside to being called "the Professor," and it looks like his will be falling just outside my top 10 for reprints. 😉
@@EruditeMagic 2 that immediately come to mind is papercliped card effect & his organic coins across & majority of the material in the set I had on DVD already 📀 as well & great thing about that set is that it came with dvds aswell # bonus 🧐😎🧙♂️💁♂️🤳🧙♂️🐰🪄
That’s an interesting book. Fisher is kind of full of himself, but beneath the bluster is some good stuff. There’s a refinement of Marlo’s “No-Clutch Bottom Placement” that’s not very difficult and can be useful.
@@EruditeMagic I've had that book for a long time and never used any of it. Every once in a while I sit down to try to learn his half pass again. I appreciate that the description is detailed...but it may be a little too detailed? I'll eventually put in the time to get it down, as I don't have a solid half pass in my arsenal, but I'm not quite sure it's as revolutionary as he claims it to be...
I find it odd, and misleading, when people refer to Out of Print books as being "unavailable." They're not. All of these books can be acquired, you just have to pay what they're worth. An alternate title for this video could be "Books that I wish were cheaper." Supply and demand. It's capitalism at its finest.
Out of Print: (of a book) no longer available [unavailable] from the publisher. "the title I want is out of print" Oxford doesn't find it misleading or odd...🤷🏻 😄
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Very appreciative of your efforts. Fortunate to have many of these books. Missing Sankey and Bannon but the future looks bright!
Thanks, btrigg! If those are the two you're missing, indeed, the future does look bright! 😎
I love this channel, I get a thirst for reading and learning more, but also a bit stressed about all the new books I want to get 😂 I'd like some Vernon material to be reprinted, like the inner secrets trilogy 👍
My goal is never to create discontentment, but rather to introduce you to new possibilities and help you make an informed decision with your hard-earned dollars. Thanks for taking time to comment, and don't worry - you have the rest of your life to acquire, read, and perform with your magic library. Merry Christmas!
Kaufman’s ad in Genii said the new version of Greater Magic will be coming in 2025 and will be 3 volumes at 900 pages each(!). Better start saving now!
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Nice list.
The Trost book should be in everyone’s top ten!
Definitely in mine!
Great list. Aside from the ones you named that I already have, you listed the top of my wantlist.
There's a few on this list that I regret letting fall through my fingertips.
Which ones give you the biggest regret?
@@EruditeMagic I was buying books from a guy a couple months ago and he mentioned some books he was putting up for sale soon. Darren Brown being one of them. I didn't even bother to ask him the price cause I didn't have the budget for any big purchases.
He put it up for sale publicly for like $40-50. I should've at least asked what he planned to sell it for. I would've paid that in a second.
Lesson learned 😄
@@EruditeMagic yep!
A terrific list of books to have. I do have the card magic of Nick Trost but a printed copy. But all these are great books, that should be reprinted. Great reviews👍😊👍😊👍
Thanks, Robert! 🙏
Agree with all of your top 10!
Also, another book that I've always heard about but never read is Unreal by Bruce Bernstein... Would love to see that reprinted
I got it when it was reprinted the first time. Bernstein is a great thinker, but I'm not sure how much he performed. 🤷🏻 Some of the ideas read better than I think they would play. Nevertheless, I've learned from it and will perform his material in the future. There's also a lot of diversity in the material
I am interested in the list, but what needs to really be reprinted--just to save the material--are all of the booklets and comb-bound books (as well as the short run periodicals) put out by Karl Fulves. This is some of the best material in magic and it was published in formats that both had limited distribution and are prone to be easy to damage. A bound multi-volume set of Fulves is desperately needed, if only for archival and historical purposes. If I had the rights and all of the Fulves material (I think I have only about half), I would find a way to do it myself.
Beyond that, the Vernon Books by Ganson (and the Vernon Chronicles series) that were last published by L&L should never be allowed to go out of print again. The Elmsley set from L&L. Goldstein's Lisp series. Pure Effect and Absolute Magic by Derren Brown. The Secrets of Bro. John Hamman by Kaufman. Williamson's Wonders by Kaufman. Complete Works of Derek Dingle by Kaufman, Lifesavers by Weber, Totally Out of Control by Kenner. Some of the Miracle Factory stuff like Art and Magic, Neo-Magic Artistry, and Benson by Starlight. The Card Magic of Nick Trost. The Barrie Richardson Trilogy (Theater of the Mind appears to gone already). I believe Drawing Room Deceptions is unavailable although it may be reprinted. The Ramsay Trilogy by Galloway. The Nash Trilogy by Minch. Eric Lewis' Crown Trilogy. Mind and Magic of David Berglas. The Berglas Effect by Kaufman and Showtime at the Tom-Foolery by Kaufman
I enjoyed reading this list - thanks for sharing, Brett!
I’d really like to see the Pallbearer’s Review collection get back in print.
Definitely the Jay Sankey books. All those reviews highly recommending them - and I can't get them... 😭
They are quite the hit! (and having a set, I understand why)
@@EruditeMagic On the Vanishing Inc website there this button for out of print books "email when back in stock" - isn't using that button also a good way to help them determine which book is still in high enough demand?
Sounds like it's as good as any to me!
I haven't been a big fan of Jay Sankey's over the years, but his Vanishing Inc. Trilogy is DEFINITELY his best material. You don't have to sift through the other stuff to find the good stuff; it's all in this trilogy. Andi Gladwin has hinted that it may be reprinted in the near future.
Indeed he [Andi] has.
I think the big knock on Sankey is also his biggest strength: continuous output. When you continually put things out, you're bound to have some dogs along with the winners. But the set has too much value to stay OOP...
Since I got into magic in late 2012 I’ve wanted a copy of “Greater Magic”! I was very lucky to purchase a digital version of the “Card Magic of Nick Trost” for a few dollars from an LLePub sale a few years back. (I got all the Vernon books, Carney, Jennings, and more when they would have sales. I don’t mind digital at all). I really, really hope they reprint Johnny Thompson’s book. His “Commercial Classics of Magic” series is one of my got-to’s and I’ll treasure both volumes of his book for a long time. I didn’t know that “The Definitive Sankey” was formatted like that! That’s awesome!
Great list since 2012!!
I'm glad I found what lies inside for 20 bucks on mercari, it is fun looking for these books, I would also like to find one degree
Very nice - that's a good deal! 👌
As always, I thoroughly enjoyed seeing your list. I also enjoyed reading the suggestions of other viewers (and the readers of MBA). I would agree with nearly all of your list and the others additions. I have been extremely fortunate over the years in my purchases as I own every book in your list and those suggested by others. The only exception is that although I own a lot of Karl Fulves' books, I don't own all of them.
I was very fortunate to actually spend an afternoon with Nick Trost and Al Thatcher on March 5, 1999. I was on my way to Akron for a hot air balloon safety seminar and I contacted Mr. Thatcher about visiting him on my way and asked if there might be other magicians I could also meet. He said he'd invite Mr. Trost over. It was an amazing afternoon spent with two amazing and wonderful magicians. I was able to have Mr. Trost autographed several of his books/booklets including The Card Magic of Nick Trost (1997). I missed my one chance to meet Ted Lesley. He lectured in Kansas City near Thanksgiving some years ago and I wanted to go, but I didn't want to make the 2-hour drive by myself. I've regretted that decision ever since.
What would I add to the list? Although I own copies, I think Stewart James in Print: The First Fifty Years (1989) and The James Files (2000) should be reprinted. The Marlo Magazines in hardcover would be great. James Biss's Messing with Minds (2005) and Mind Blowing Menatlism (2008) might be nice to see reprinted.. However, Biss has become a controversial figure in magic. Hardcovers of these two book are hard to find. Messing with Minds was released as a numbered edition of 333 and Mind Blowing Mentalism was released as a numbered edition of 666. Both had paperback releases. He originally was going to write a third book, but criminal and legal issues sidetracked him. At the time the books were released, they were acclaimed. I don't know where they stand these days. Seeing some of the L&L books reprinted would be nice, especially Annemann: The Life and Times of a Legend compiled with commentary by Max Abrams (1992)
Thanks for your [always thoughtful] feedback! That's pretty cool that you got to meet some of these guys and have made some good good purchases over the years.
As far as the Annemann book, I don't love that one. It's clunky and plain, IMO. I far prefer the Miracle Factory's Annemann's Enigma
@@EruditeMagic Yeah, I have that also.😀
It's a better book, so I don't know how much you're missing by not having the Abrams tome 🤷🏻
Regardless, best of luck with your quest!
@@EruditeMagic I guess I should clarify. All of my suggestions are actually books I do own. They're just ones I think maybe others in the magic/mentalism community would like to have reprinted so they'd be able to have access to them.
Awesome, thank you! 🙌
The Classic Magic of Larry Jennings is my pick. You can create whole close up acts from just this book.
I also agree on Trost and Bannon
That book definitely has some good tricks in it!
This should be fun 😀
I hope it is 😉
Very good likelihood that Penguin (the owners of Hermetic Press) will reprint Paramiracles.
That would be great - I hope so!! 🤩
Great video and list like always. I have Volume 2 of the Sankey works and hoping to get 1 and 3. Here are some others I’m wanting to get
-The Classic Magic of Larry Jennings
- Williamson’s Wonders
-Carneycopia
- Tangled Web
Others have been shared in the comments as well. Hoping I can pick these up some day.
I'm sure you'll be able to procure them eventually. Persist, persist, persist!
Robert Neale's "Life, Death & Card Tricks". John Carneys' books.
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I don’t have the Sankey books but I do have his DVD’s from 20 years ago. Very good material.
He's put out a bunch of stuff over the years in a variety of formats! Of course, I'm partial to the printed word magic
Did some research on why Pure Effect and Absolute Magic were pulled, and it turns out that it's because Derren Brown was uncomfortable with fans tracking down his earlier work and buying it as laymen. He noticed that a strangely large amount of his lay fans had bought Pure Effect or Absolute Magic, and so before he published his more "layman friendly" works like Trick of The Mind and Confessions Of A Conjuror, he asked H&R to pull the two previous works as not to violate the boundaries between latpeople and working magicians.
Very interesting! I don't agree with Derren, but I guess it is what it is 🤷🏻
I'd love to see a reprint of the 2-volume Collected Works of Alex Elmsley. I managed to get vol. 1 on the aftermarket, but you can't get vol. 2 for love nor money!
Funny how that works, right??! Hope you find a copy of vol 2 🤞
Great list! It may be more recent, but I really wish John Bannon would reprint Destination Zero....
I hear you! That's another Squash Publishing
Paramiracles is a great book!
For sure! Do you have a favorite trick from it?
I believe H&R holds the publication rights to Derren Brown’s earliest books. I seem to recall that Brown had requested they not be republished.
So what you're saying is that we need to email him with requests to republish? 😄
Looks like it 😁. I’m lucky in that I bought my copies of Pure Effect and Absolute Magic from Penguin when they were just averagely overpriced magic books. Absolute Magic is the source of one of my favorite quotes - “ There are many tricks, and many effects, but rarely a Grand Effect. There are many entertainers, but few real magicians. Many technicians, but few artists who use their art to explore their vision.”
Good foresight on your part! 😄 And thanks for the quote! Do you perform any tricks from those books?
Haven’t yet, but if I were to try one, I’m pretty sure it would be “A Rose for Zamiel.” Lovely story and a petty effect.
Sankey, Sankey, Sankey! Thank you Jeff!
You bet, James!! 👍
Got Pureffect last year. I wasn't that impressed with it. Mainly because it is all card tricks. I was looking for his thoughts and ideas concerning mentalism, sadly they are not to be found in that book. I eventually stumbled upon a book from another author from that era that is certainly a book Derren must have studied. It is also out of print, and super hard to find. I will give Pureffect another try though. The card tricks are quite brilliant. I recently stumbled across a video on UA-cam from a VHS tape of him demonstrating most of the tricks in that book. Very inspiring.
Good to know!
I have a copy of Pure Effect and the other one, the name of which escapes me for the moment. What's striking about those early Derren Brown books is how young he must have been when he wrote them -- in many ways, they read like obvious juvenalia -- filled with rebellious dirty jokes and hat tips to Jerry Sadowitz. Yet at the same time, he appears to have had a close (correspondance) relationship with Teller. I'm sure both of those books pre-date his mentalist TV fame, yet he was clearly a deep thinker on the subject of magic -- hugely sophisticated for somebody so young -- and appears to have impressed all manner of much older, much more experienced magicians. Books like Pure Effect are really at the very heart of what I love about magic books, displaying a passion for scholarship and theory that in some sense is about as far removed from the $15 packet trick as you could hope to be, and yet at the same time, acknowledging the very close connection to the world of the Svengali Deck and others of it's ilk.
I'd really like a copy of Greater Magic. I know it's not rare, but I've yet to come across a decent copy. As ever, Kaufman will do a wonderful job with the reprint -- but I'd love to see an el-cheapo Dover edition that made it available to anyone with $15 or $20 in their pocket.
That would be fascinating to have a Dover-style version of Greater Magic 🤔
It absolutely would, but I don’t see it happening. Kaufman has explained that the rights situation is quite dicey, as the Warren estate is a complicated, not-entirely-harmonious collection of separate entities.
How fun when the rights holders are so caught up in profiting from their ancestor's work that they don't make any money (because can't get along to see it published). Glad Kaufman secured the rights that he did - looking forward to seeing the final product
Our founders viewed what we now call “intellectual property”, that is, the ability to be the exclusive source fits distributing or disposing of one’s creation, as not really a natural right. So the constitution gives government the power to grant creators a monopoly on the distribution of their creations on the premise that that grant of license would benefit society, and would only be granted for a limited time. Now that rightsholders who are often not creators have hacked the laws in their favor, copyrights can be extended indefinitely and properties can be withheld instead of made available, in direct contravention of the founders idea. In my opinion, it should be the case that you use your copyright or lose it, and that copyrights should not exist in perpetuity.
The artful mentalism by Bob Cassidy is the one I've been looking for a long while, although I am a proud owner of The Jinx. I am still in search of The artful mentalism.
Hope you find it!! 💙
The Collected Works of Alex Elmsley. Those are two of my favorite books in my collection.
What's your favorite trick from each volume?
@Erudite Magic From Volume 1, the trick I have performed the most is 1002nd Aces. From Volume 2, I really love chapter 6, Faro Tapestries. Hard to pick one trick.
Awesome 🙌
The code by fenik would be great for a reprint
How about "The Mind and Magic of David Berglas", "Absolute Magic" by Derren Brown, and "Stunners Plus" by Larry Becker?
Stunners Plus is still available as an ebook, but a ton of great mentalism and mental magic there - thanks for sharing!
I had known you could still get Dear Mr Fantasy, in paperback, from Bannon himself, but I noticed he has moved it to the "no longer available" category. :(
Back when I originally reviewed it, you could still buy the paperback from him. I believe the reprint will be hard back [again] through Squash Publishing
I have the paperback…it’s the most unassuming book but boy does it have some of the best card effects.
I agree. When you look at it, it doesn't look that special
That's what I've heard, but I don't work for them!
That's great - enjoy!
Artful Deceptions, by yours truly.
Wait, so you don't have a copy of your own book? 🤔
@@EruditeMagic every book by Mr. Kronzek is really good. He has written what may be the best introduction to magic book for young people ever--and it is not bad for adults either. Grandpa Magic is a perfect book for the target audience.
@@BrettFeinsteinSecondAccount thanks for the heads up!
@@EruditeMagic Yes, I have a copy. However, another print run would be nice. The first sold out quickly.
Scams & Fantasies by Darwin Ortiz has been out of print for a while - so annoying!!! The grainy PDF copies out there do not do it justice. Hopefully this comes back into print soon. Love your channel!
Thanks, Rehan! I always hope all magic books come back into print 😄👍
I am happy to have pure effect.
You should be!
What about bound to please by Simon aronson I want that book badly
My vote is for Magic & Meaning by Eugene Burger and Robert Neale.
You had me at Eugene Burger! 🤩
I spoke to Andi Gladwin about a month ago re the Sankey books. He did not know if or when they would be republished. He said that it would cost £100,000.00 to get ready to republish and I don’t think that VI could take this risk. Contact VI if you want them to be republished.
That's a big number!! 💸
Also, can you get your bosses to reprint Above the Fold by Aviles please? :)
😆 🤷♂️ We'll see
do you know if vanishing inc will be reprinting what lies inside?
I really want to see Tangled Web by Eric Mead get reprinted
There's a decent chance since it's been reprinted before, and it's in the Hermetic Press stable that Penguin now owns 👍
@@EruditeMagic This is more up to Eric than Penguin.
What do you mean?
Why Derren Brown's Pure Effect and not Absolute Magic? Both are great books but most people (myself included) prefer the latter.
Good question - one for which I don't have an answer except 'natural selection' 😄🤷🏻
@@EruditeMagic fair enough, I just thought there may be something deeper to picking one and not the other (I still recommend you get both though LOL)
Of course! Who doesn't want both??
@@EruditeMagic Well, as I already own both, me I suppose LOL
Super controversial, and I could never truly suggest a reprint out of respect for the magician. I have always wanted to be able to read “the Harbin book” just once. I really enjoy reading books from people who think differently. Great list by the way🙌
Thanks, Wayne! I totally understand your suggestion and respect that you want to read it 🙂👍
For me, it's Scams and Fantasies with Cards by Darwin Ortiz, Totally Out of Control by Chris Kenner and Williamson's Wonders by David Williamson. I did pick up the reprints of Juan Tamariz's Sonata and David Roth's Expert Coin Magic, so that's two off my list.
Great list, and great pickups!
I have all 3 of those books in perfect condition. (Ortiz, Kenner and Williamson) Do you know what they are worth?
@@Mongoose191 Whatever somebody is willing to pay for them? There are copies on ebay for exorbitant prices, but nobody seems to be buying them.
I always look at "sold items" filter for eBay 🤨
@@EruditeMagic Awesome tip. Never thought of doing that actually. Just saw that Totally out of Control recently sold for about $150. Probably a much more accurate price estimate than $400.
I thought H&R was bought or closed-- can you provide a link? Thanks. Great show as always, Jeff!
I believe they sold a lot of their back stock in an effort to pare down. Don bought a good bit of that, so maybe he'll share more.
They are not out of business, though. They republished the Trost Subtle Card Creations Book 1 this past year, as well as a second edition of Lewis Jones's Seventh Heaven. And, they are publishing the 9th (and final!) book in the Trost series in early 2023.
@@EruditeMagic thank you so much for the detailed answer!
Sure thing!
How about The Doors of Deception by Paul Vigil. Also I'd like your opinion on digital magazines and not being able to download them. I understand it is because the publisher is afraid of us sharing digital copies, but I can read and give away a printed copy just as easy. We should be able to keep what we buy digitally. What do you think?
I don't have any Paul Vigil books. 🤷🏻
For better or worse, it seems like the trend with digital. The world has moved away from physical ownership, and most people are comfortable paying for a subscription to access their purchases. I agree that if you are buying something outright, you should be able to download it. Out of curiosity, what's the magazine?
@EruditeMagic. I don't have any of Paul's books either, but I have heard it's great. I don't want to call the magazine out by name online. I'll tell you at magifest ( I'm assuming you are going again).
Indeed - I will be there!
Personally, i’m not sure I buy the “there isn’t enough of a demand” thing. But I don’t see the behind the scenes, so maybe im wrong. I’m sure I am wrong. But to me, especially with the big companies like Vanishing Inc, Murphys who now owns L&L, and penguin who owns Hermetic, I just don’t see the issue with reprinting the old classics. I mean it’s been long enough since Bannons books went out of print, that there’s now a new generation of magicians who are missing out on that material. it only makes sense to reprint them.
I really do hope the sankey books get reprinted. and maybe even include a 4th volume since Jay now has more material since it’s release.
I think if they won’t reprint, they should at least sell the rights to someone who will
I think it's more complex than that. The book market is a niche within a niche. It's far easier than you think to incur costs that you won't recoup, especially on something that already took a while to sell out the first time. Anyway, there will be a lot more books coming in the future (both old and new)!
@@EruditeMagic oh, i’m sure. like i said, there’s a lot I do not see or understand. And i try to not that that persuade my way of thinking. To me, and i’m sure to others, it seems as easy as flicking a switch and the printers in the back of the warehouse print away. Obviously we know that isn’t the case..
maybe that could be a good idea for a video. especially since you with with VI now, maybe a behind the curtain look into how these books are made and the decisions behind them
I already had that as a future episode, and I just put another tick mark next to it. Thanks for the suggestion! 😁👍
Need Sankey #1 and I'll have the set. :(
So close 🤏
Good list, but my top three aren't on your list: Vernon, Dingle, and Elmsley
I understand. I don't know why, but those guys have never been my favorites (ducking the incoming volley 🏹🪓💣💥). A lot of their best creations have been done better in subsequent publications. 🤷🏻
I have the Dingle book. I don’t find it that impressive. There’s a fun Ace assembly at the end that uses a bunch of extra cards, but Kaufman says it was specifically designed to fool magicians and would be wasted on laymen.
I think there's a reason that Dingle was known as the magician's magician...
I recently got the 5 Greater Magic books from a resale shop near my house for $100
That's great! I'm guessing they used eBay to price them - how else would they know the value? 🤷🏻
@@EruditeMagic Yeah I've gotten some great stuff there. They use Amazon and eBay. I also recently found Asi Wind : Repertoire for $45 there.
😳🤯😱 My question is who would trade that one in for [ostensibly] less than $45 ⁉️
@@EruditeMagic I was thinking the same thing. lol
im trying to get paramiracles republished / back in print I'm in contact with penguin
Wouldn't that be great?
All the Harry Lorayne books that are out of print!!!
Those would be welcome reprints for sure!
Thanks for the great video, Jeff! I take the chance to ask one question, maybe you or someone else here knows the answer - is Simon Aronson's "Simply Simon" still in print? It is out of stock on all online dealers that I have checked. Vanishing Inc. support says that it might be discontinued (even though the product page lists it simply as out of stock). Thanks!
No problem. By definition, it's OOP if you can't get it at the manufacturer. It may get harder to find his works now that he's passed. I think he printed them himself for the most part. Hope you can find a copy!
@@EruditeMagic Yes, that's actually the point - it is not clear (at least to me) if it is still possible to get it at the manufacturer. It is still possible to send a Paypal payment on Simon Aronson's website, but it is not evident (again, to me) if the site is still maintained after he passed away. I have sent an email to address listed under "contacts" a couple of weeks ago but have got no reply at the moment. Anyway, Aronson's books are such big classics that I hope this will become available again soon! 🤞
Focus by Phil Goldstein
If you love packet tricks, this is certainly going to be high on the list 👍
Well, I have 4 out of 10.
Awesome! Which 4? 🤔
Do you think there’s any one person that has a bigger library than you?
For sure - there are many! ua-cam.com/video/dQGk-7SOv0E/v-deo.html
Bob Cassidy books.
You obviously know I agree!
So frustating. I see a new Erudite Magic video appear -- then I find out I have to wait five hours to see it!?! I hate it!
I feel the same way when I see an advertisement for a new magic book. "What do you mean it's not shipping NOW?!" 😡😄 Hang in there, Twat!
@@EruditeMagic -- I'm like the kid in the marshmallow experiment -- I'd eat it now! Still, there is a great sense of satisfaction when it finally appears. One a week just isn't enough for me!
😄👍
With POD technology these days why not let Lulu just print them? The cost of a big run is a modern day fallacy.
Copyright laws are problematic. It is criminal for publishers to restrict access to books on the basis of profit, given publishers did not write the books. Exorbitant prices, while giving advantage to first buyers, are not the solution either. So we are stuck with a failed market - rife with shortages and piracy.
Every publisher is taking a gamble on the initial demand, which can be unpredictable - tough to know 🤷🏻
Publishers are hedging bets by having multiple releases, which protect their overall profits. Will Vanishing Inc reprint Sankey collection?
I hope so!
Bob Cassidy books
Great choice!! 👌
This shows how heavily skewed you are towards mentalism. Where are the Vernon books?
Meh.? 🤷🏻😄 I have them, but feel like they're not an invaluable resource, and certainly not the exclusive place to learn Vernon material. His best magic is printed far and wide in any number of resources: Stars of Magic, Greater Magic, Jinx, etc., or in a newer book with a better version of his original. There's got to be a downside to being called "the Professor," and it looks like his will be falling just outside my top 10 for reprints. 😉
I have Definitive Sankey autographed 🧐😎🧙♂️🐰Canada's🇨🇦 King of close up Magic & my #1 Favorite close up Magician 🎩in the World/Magic Universe 🧙♂️🪄🐰😎
Nice!! 👍
@@EruditeMagic Ty ...one of my personal Fav. Book Sets In my vast magic library collection # walking magic shop 🧙♂️🪄🐰😎
Do you have favorite tricks from these books you're willing to share? 🤔
@@EruditeMagic 2 that immediately come to mind is papercliped card effect & his organic coins across & majority of the material in the set I had on DVD already 📀 as well & great thing about that set is that it came with dvds aswell # bonus 🧐😎🧙♂️💁♂️🤳🧙♂️🐰🪄
All good stuff!
Paper Engine
That one is in production (I 'preordered'), but I'm dubious that Mr. Fisher is going to deliver on his promise. 😕
That’s an interesting book. Fisher is kind of full of himself, but beneath the bluster is some good stuff. There’s a refinement of Marlo’s “No-Clutch Bottom Placement” that’s not very difficult and can be useful.
I'll have to look it up if [when?] I get my copy of the book
@@EruditeMagic I've had that book for a long time and never used any of it. Every once in a while I sit down to try to learn his half pass again. I appreciate that the description is detailed...but it may be a little too detailed? I'll eventually put in the time to get it down, as I don't have a solid half pass in my arsenal, but I'm not quite sure it's as revolutionary as he claims it to be...
Valid 👍
"l wish l would have pulled the trigger"????
Never would l have thought to hear your making such a grammar mistake ... 😂😂😂
It's nice to know that I'm good enough to surprise people when I say something grammatically incorrect 💪😎👍🦚
I find it odd, and misleading, when people refer to Out of Print books as being "unavailable." They're not. All of these books can be acquired, you just have to pay what they're worth. An alternate title for this video could be "Books that I wish were cheaper." Supply and demand. It's capitalism at its finest.
Out of Print: (of a book) no longer available [unavailable] from the publisher.
"the title I want is out of print"
Oxford doesn't find it misleading or odd...🤷🏻 😄
way to miss the point. 🙄