He got better, as usual. And yes he willingly took the cure to erase his own mutant genes and is now just a normal human. His own Iron man suit got destroyed by an enraged Xavier in the final issue of Immortal X-men
Way back when Omega Sentinel told Nimrod that in all the timelines she was in, mutants always won, I thought it was interesting the opposition to all of the timelines/lives that Moira had where non-mutant humans. What if Enigma manipulated the results of their attempts to see their opposite sides win, that Omega Sentinel and Moira had no choice but to side with Enigma, as Sebastian Shaw would say, 'The Winning Side'?
Interesting but I’d say for Omega it’s more so true than for Moira because with her it’s timelines that Enigma was tied too and could manipulate as we learned it was him who sent Omega while posing as a Phalanx. While with Moira we learnt he couldn’t really affect her timelines, hell it’s why he needs her so he can go through them by merging together like. If anything the reason the Mutants always lost in her timelines it’s that they never really understood how bad things were with humanity and machines and that it was inevitable that a war would be raged by both sides. I like to believe once Moira learnt all this it’s why there was a shift in the Krakoan era to why Mutants where able to win in some parts that weren’t Enigma induced.
@@MatthewLoh-ru1mw but….why would you/he be close to the guy who killed you? They weren’t close or even had a warm relationship. Hence, the killing. When last we saw Shinobi, he was hugging his biological father, Leland. Where is the editor?
Shinobi Shaw has the same powers as Kitty Pride so I don’t understand why she had to phase him when he could just phase on his own. Could Sentinel City be the origin of the Phalanx? We haven’t seen the Phalanx’s origin in this timeline yet. Please keep the Krakoan Era going.
Nope. KRAKOA Era is ending. Let it go. Haven't you SEEN the press announcements of the new X-men era 'From the Ashes'? And no, Phalanx is from SPACE, not from the earth, please get your facts straight
BREAKS MY HEART to know this will never EVER be made to appear even a half of a half of a half as good on-screen as in the comics. What I would give to be able be apart of the making process if ever the "Krakoan Era' were adapted to screen. Hollywood wouldn't know where to start or finish! The ability to flesh out characters and storylines the way the comics do but condensing it to a palatable 4 or even 6 part series of films starting from a normal day at the Mansion until everything changes... Humans discover Krakoa "Revelation of Krakoa", (it being mutant island not some monster island or enemy Introducing Arrako in "Krakoa vs Arrako"/"X of Swords ⚔️ ( which will end in seeing Krakoas efforts to liberate and bring peace to their sister island, the terra forming of Mars Moira explains her mutant abilities in "Sins of Sinister" (this can be a two parter ) ends with the resetting of the new Timeline Hellfire gala massacre./The war on Arrako Storm leading the charge Then finally"X-Men: Redemption' All the other little side stories could be given their own Disney+ series which tie into whats going on on the big screen I just say start with all the major events on the big screen. Which eventually becomes a big coordinated battle where the tv and movies collide! But Forge should have his own series with Children of the Vault feat. Cable and Bishop and some big name Cameos in certain episodes. Beasts betrayal and how hes been keeping Krakoa safe in the background. The eXiles, Dead Mutants all Disney + worthy storylines.
Nah, it wouldn't work on the big screen or TV shows. It's too high concept for ordinary viewers and the budget would be blown. The Krakoan Era should stay as a comics-only thing
So like, why do they need Ms. Marvel to convince Doom when they have bloody Emma Frost within the same fucking room. They are trying to shovel her in and forcefeed her to us so hard, it just makes me like her less and less.
Oh, because Emma Frost could FORCE Doom to comply and help, you mean? You don't understand if I read you right. But maybe I am reading you wrong? I want to give you the benefit of the doubt. All men's minds are puddy in the hands of the White Queen... all, save Doom's. Doom cannot be controlled by Emma Frost. Do your research. Doom's willpower cannot be bent by Emma Frost and she cannot invade his mind -- and Doom told her that in honesty, threatening her with his wrath were she to attempt it again. Wisely, Frost desisted. Also Jean Grey cannot invade Doom's mind. Zebediah Killgrave, the so-called "Purple Man," is helpless before Doom. Also Charles Xavier and his wretched and vicious parasitic twin can't control Doom either, and if you are paying attention, you'd realize that Doom, a non-mutant, bested the technology of Cerebro itself, fine-tuning a version that works on his non-mutant brain. Let me make it even clearer: Doom's mind cannot be invaded or controlled by even ONSLAUGHT. Nuff said.
Miss Marvel being in on this is so stupid that it's almost ruining the story for me. Of all the mutants with righteous anger wanting to get their hands on orcas they give Miss Marvel a mission, sure, why not. We can trust this person with the most sensitive information we just met her last week. It's insulting to the reader. And then to have her brokering deals with doom to save the day oh my God that's horrible writing. And why is Disney even bothering to do this isn't it a little late the movie is already failed horribly stuffing her in the X-Men afterwards isn't going to help anything. I had little opinion on this Marvel one way or another but I certainly didn't dislike the character but now doing this kind of stuff it makes me not enjoy the character because I had little opinion on this Marvel one way or another but I certainly didn't dislike the character but now doing this kind of stuff it makes me not enjoy the character because of I had little opinion on this Marvel one way or another but I certainly didn't dislike the character but now doing this kind of stuff it makes me not enjoy the character because of the bad storytelling behind it
Ms. Marvel feels like a fan stand-in that actually works storywise. It's actually fun seeing how she interacts with different factions.
Never clicked so fast oh my god, what a title
Yo I did the exact same thing 😂😂😂😂
lmfao me too
Doom Is The Greatest, Pay Homage Peasants 😤 Great Video!
I like how doom came in to help, that will play importance later on
Doom makes the best intros
How long did Orchis think they could hide Sentinel City from DOOM!
1:11 😮😢😅😊😊😅😊😮😢😢
This is amazing! I subscribed right away!
With Doom the Xmen can't lose!
They still have to confront Omega Sentinel, Moira, and of course, Nimrod!
If anyone can find a way to bait Nimrod it is Doom
We need a Nimrod x Ultron Collab ...
Good afternoon comic break down 😁😊
.... Am I the only one waiting for Ultron to pop up 😂😂
How'd I miss Shaw being able to walk again?
Is he still "Depowered"?
What happened to his cool looking purple "Ironman" suit?
Dude I forgot. 😂😂😂😂😂
He got better, as usual. And yes he willingly took the cure to erase his own mutant genes and is now just a normal human. His own Iron man suit got destroyed by an enraged Xavier in the final issue of Immortal X-men
Doom and his mutants stealing the show . Oh and the cover 0:42 🔥
Great issue doom unleashing his x men was awesome orchis is done and sentinel city rises
Way back when Omega Sentinel told Nimrod that in all the timelines she was in, mutants always won, I thought it was interesting the opposition to all of the timelines/lives that Moira had where non-mutant humans.
What if Enigma manipulated the results of their attempts to see their opposite sides win, that Omega Sentinel and Moira had no choice but to side with Enigma, as Sebastian Shaw would say, 'The Winning Side'?
Interesting but I’d say for Omega it’s more so true than for Moira because with her it’s timelines that Enigma was tied too and could manipulate as we learned it was him who sent Omega while posing as a Phalanx.
While with Moira we learnt he couldn’t really affect her timelines, hell it’s why he needs her so he can go through them by merging together like. If anything the reason the Mutants always lost in her timelines it’s that they never really understood how bad things were with humanity and machines and that it was inevitable that a war would be raged by both sides.
I like to believe once Moira learnt all this it’s why there was a shift in the Krakoan era to why Mutants where able to win in some parts that weren’t Enigma induced.
It's time for the X-Men to Whip it, Whip it good.
Welcome back Comic Breakdown!
Nice!
I mean - it’s okay.
I’m just wanting to see how this all concludes. It’s meandered for so long.
Did I miss a retcon? Isn’t Shinobi the son of Harry Leland? Shaw killed him at one point. How does their interaction make sense?
He got resurrected during the Krakoa era
@@MatthewLoh-ru1mw but….why would you/he be close to the guy who killed you? They weren’t close or even had a warm relationship. Hence, the killing. When last we saw Shinobi, he was hugging his biological father, Leland. Where is the editor?
@@rojelioperez6235 I don't know. I guess the editors were sleeping 😅 on the job!
Doom joins the war.
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Shinobi Shaw has the same powers as Kitty Pride so I don’t understand why she had to phase him when he could just phase on his own.
Could Sentinel City be the origin of the Phalanx? We haven’t seen the Phalanx’s origin in this timeline yet.
Please keep the Krakoan Era going.
Nope. KRAKOA Era is ending. Let it go. Haven't you SEEN the press announcements of the new X-men era 'From the Ashes'? And no, Phalanx is from SPACE, not from the earth, please get your facts straight
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BREAKS MY HEART to know this will never EVER be made to appear even a half of a half of a half as good on-screen as in the comics. What I would give to be able be apart of the making process if ever the "Krakoan Era' were adapted to screen. Hollywood wouldn't know where to start or finish! The ability to flesh out characters and storylines the way the comics do but condensing it to a palatable 4 or even 6 part series of films starting from a normal day at the Mansion until everything changes...
Humans discover Krakoa "Revelation of Krakoa", (it being mutant island not some monster island or enemy
Introducing Arrako in "Krakoa vs Arrako"/"X of Swords ⚔️ ( which will end in seeing Krakoas efforts to liberate and bring peace to their sister island, the terra forming of Mars
Moira explains her mutant abilities in "Sins of Sinister" (this can be a two parter ) ends with the resetting of the new Timeline
Hellfire gala massacre./The war on Arrako Storm leading the charge
Then finally"X-Men: Redemption'
All the other little side stories could be given their own Disney+ series which tie into whats going on on the big screen I just say start with all the major events on the big screen. Which eventually becomes a big coordinated battle where the tv and movies collide! But Forge should have his own series with Children of the Vault feat. Cable and Bishop and some big name Cameos in certain episodes. Beasts betrayal and how hes been keeping Krakoa safe in the background. The eXiles, Dead Mutants all Disney + worthy storylines.
Nah, it wouldn't work on the big screen or TV shows. It's too high concept for ordinary viewers and the budget would be blown. The Krakoan Era should stay as a comics-only thing
@@MatthewLoh-ru1mw I need at least a tease..where the X-Men of the movie universe end up in a future where "Krakoan Era" is a thing.
@@KingofUnpopularOpinion no, it will never happen! Feige already said no
@@MatthewLoh-ru1mw WHAT!? When did he say that?
@@KingofUnpopularOpinion I don't know, but I read it somewhere
First!!!!!!!
How is Wolverine in this issue? But also has its powers taken by Sabertooth in that issue?
Through the power of comics time and editorial issues. A tale as old as crossover books.
@@GM_MorganV what?
@@lordm91 Sabertooth War, despite shipping at the same time as time as this book, takes place before Fall of the House of X/Rise of the Powers of X
This is presumably after
7:05 Who okayed that mouth? That looks weird as heck
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So like, why do they need Ms. Marvel to convince Doom when they have bloody Emma Frost within the same fucking room. They are trying to shovel her in and forcefeed her to us so hard, it just makes me like her less and less.
Oh, because Emma Frost could FORCE Doom to comply and help, you mean? You don't understand if I read you right. But maybe I am reading you wrong? I want to give you the benefit of the doubt.
All men's minds are puddy in the hands of the White Queen... all, save Doom's. Doom cannot be controlled by Emma Frost. Do your research. Doom's willpower cannot be bent by Emma Frost and she cannot invade his mind -- and Doom told her that in honesty, threatening her with his wrath were she to attempt it again. Wisely, Frost desisted.
Also Jean Grey cannot invade Doom's mind. Zebediah Killgrave, the so-called "Purple Man," is helpless before Doom. Also Charles Xavier and his wretched and vicious parasitic twin can't control Doom either, and if you are paying attention, you'd realize that Doom, a non-mutant, bested the technology of Cerebro itself, fine-tuning a version that works on his non-mutant brain.
Let me make it even clearer: Doom's mind cannot be invaded or controlled by even ONSLAUGHT. Nuff said.
Wish this was Disney’s goal.
It's not and it never will. Feige himself even stated he will not adapt the Krakoa Era
HOW IS WOLVERINE DOING THAT AND HE GOT DEPOWERED IN HIS OWN TITLE? LIKE WTF IS THE TIMELINE HERE ?
Sabretooth war takes place before all this
I'd of blocked kamala after she called, i wouldn't want a mr.fantastic ripoff calling me.
Look out! Kamala has a long arm and an oversized hand!
I've always been an X-Men fan, Avengers, nah !!
DOOM did nothing wrong, he did everything correct
Yes, so he can take over the world
Miss Marvel being in on this is so stupid that it's almost ruining the story for me.
Of all the mutants with righteous anger wanting to get their hands on orcas they give Miss Marvel a mission, sure, why not. We can trust this person with the most sensitive information we just met her last week. It's insulting to the reader.
And then to have her brokering deals with doom to save the day oh my God that's horrible writing.
And why is Disney even bothering to do this isn't it a little late the movie is already failed horribly stuffing her in the X-Men afterwards isn't going to help anything.
I had little opinion on this Marvel one way or another but I certainly didn't dislike the character but now doing this kind of stuff it makes me not enjoy the character because I had little opinion on this Marvel one way or another but I certainly didn't dislike the character but now doing this kind of stuff it makes me not enjoy the character because of I had little opinion on this Marvel one way or another but I certainly didn't dislike the character but now doing this kind of stuff it makes me not enjoy the character because of the bad storytelling behind it
Nazi Steve is back?
Pretty cool. 1st time in my 53 years of life I was happy Doom actually helped!😂💯📠