Does the EU Really Need the UK? - Brexit Explained

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    When scrolling through comments you often see people say "they need us more than we need them". So we have tried to respond to that once and for all. We look at if the EU relies on the UK for trade, how the EU budget will cope without the UK and if the EU needs the UK as a security ally.
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  • @TLDRnews
    @TLDRnews  3 роки тому +13

    CHECK OUT OUR NEW VERSION UPDATED FOR 2020: ua-cam.com/video/bvOlKUp1RaU/v-deo.html

    • @johnshrigley8077
      @johnshrigley8077 3 роки тому

      @Alistair Bolden .

    • @billycorgan3934
      @billycorgan3934 3 роки тому +1

      It's quite pathetic to suggest 27 European countries needs UK... When it's gonna over this arrogant supremacist wave in The UK?
      Why Britain never talks about all the money they got from not paying taxes in the rest of Europe? Why do you think UK is paying 18 billion back to EU? Because the common market cause inequalities that UK takes advantage of it like Germany or France. The biggest economies collect more taxes and keeps more jobs than the smaller economies with this single market. So UK has no reasons to complain since collected far more than 18 billion from other countries.
      They took advantage of it and now tantrums just because Britain does not manage the EU.

    • @benverdel3073
      @benverdel3073 2 роки тому

      I liked the map at 3.10 of the uk without the eu.

    • @benverdel3073
      @benverdel3073 2 роки тому

      It's funny to see this video again now in july 2021. It was spot on and a lot of things have evolved over time.

  • @randomzocker8956
    @randomzocker8956 Рік тому +50

    As a European I havent noticed much from brexit.

    • @theultimatewazzer
      @theultimatewazzer 11 місяців тому +2

      As a brit i have felt it a lot 🤧

    • @dennysteezy139
      @dennysteezy139 6 місяців тому +1

      Really that you haven’t noticed much difference until now ?
      Do you think inflation is just because the war in UK and due to Covid ?
      We pay over £0.15 more for each product coming from the EU and we pay much more from countries far away from the EU due to the shipping cost.
      And worse than all of this is the government allowing and providing ViSAS to people from nigiria, India and other poor country’s with no common sense, and I makes my life so hard as I have to keep explaining them that they can do whatever they want at work, they can’t be late, they need to wear uniform, they can’t be sitting down during the working hours etc etc and they are always asking why why and why as they thing they’re back home

  • @adam108
    @adam108 Рік тому +18

    when I came to the UK, I was surprised by this porpaganda that the whole EU is crying because the UK wants to leave, meanwhile, in the EU somehow it was not talked about much, at least it was not the most narrow topic...

    • @dvidclapperton
      @dvidclapperton Рік тому +2

      Certainly a right wing claim that has been dispelled once again.

  • @CityWhisperer
    @CityWhisperer 4 роки тому +116

    I didn’t know this comment section was a meeting point for economic and trade experts.

    • @thisisaname5589
      @thisisaname5589 4 роки тому +5

      Just as likely to know what they're talking about as the average unelected bureaucrat.

    • @dave-in-nj9393
      @dave-in-nj9393 4 роки тому +5

      10 times more knowledgeable than the BBC on such matters as economics and fisheries.

    • @tamasmarcuis4455
      @tamasmarcuis4455 4 роки тому +5

      Well I am a trade and customs economist. So that would be a trade expert.
      As for most people here....well not so expert.

    • @dave-in-nj9393
      @dave-in-nj9393 4 роки тому +1

      @@tamasmarcuis4455 : that would make you about 1,000 times more expert than anyone on the BBC regarding trade and customs.

    • @colinyoung3685
      @colinyoung3685 4 роки тому

      I didn't know recognition from a third party (with the associated financial burden) was a prerequisite for discussing ideas.

  • @ulfosterberg1979
    @ulfosterberg1979 Рік тому +8

    I guess the question is settled now, three years after....

  • @livingthebestlife888
    @livingthebestlife888 5 років тому +858

    Sad to read some of the comments. I am German, my kids speak Spanish, my friends live in England, France, Netherlands. I feel "European" - what is the point of going back to narrow-minded nationalism. The EU is not always perfect but it has provided us with peace for many years now

    • @cristianpanga9325
      @cristianpanga9325 5 років тому +33

      Danke schon

    • @johnny5wd567
      @johnny5wd567 5 років тому +36

      I'm right there with you. I have relatives in the UK, in other EU countries and even outside the EU. So yeah...

    • @MeganoOdles
      @MeganoOdles 5 років тому +82

      NATO is the bedrock of peace in Europe, NOT the EU

    • @johnny5wd567
      @johnny5wd567 5 років тому +103

      @@MeganoOdles Militarily as a deterrent against the Warsaw Pact back in the days, yes. But it was the EU (or rather EEC and ECCS) which ensured the peace among its member states by ensuring no one member state has full control over coal and steel, back then the key to armament. Interdependency avoids certain types of conflict.
      Creating a stable environment for businesses and societies to develop, sharing the wealth (which is why some pay in more to the EU and some receive more from the EU), improves life in general and thereby avoid the need for certain type of conflict (like economic reasons or the situation shortly after the first world war). It's a proven fact.
      To preserve the peace, you'll need both. Saying NATO by itself is responsible for peace is an oversimplifocation. Not all EU members are part of NATO and for some time, France was not part of it yet common ground with Germany through EEC and ECCS did ensure there could not be a conflict rising by promoting shared values and shared economic benefits.
      I can't understand all the hostility today. I'm wondering what evil restrictions have been "imposed" that would cause such anger. It's always easier to point a finger to someone else rather than looking to solve one's own self-created problems (UK always had control of its borders, mass immigration is not caused by the EU - the UK parliament agreed and helped create around 95% of the regulations and treaties).
      Just get on with it and do as voted. The rest will get along just fine (at one time the EU was much smaller and that also worked fine).
      Stop complaining and start acting I'd say. No point in bickering about an emotional decision (it certainly looks like that in most cases, rather than based on reasoning given the most of the arguments displayed in these discussions between leave and remain voters).

    • @CornishCreamtea07
      @CornishCreamtea07 5 років тому +41

      Not liking the EU is not the same thing as not liking Europe, even if some dislike both.

  • @zaw408
    @zaw408 5 років тому +2181

    Yes please do a video about the EUs agricultural policy!

    • @jirivegner3711
      @jirivegner3711 5 років тому +94

      And an overview of EU budget.

    • @crazEgamer201
      @crazEgamer201 5 років тому +61

      Bumping this because I too want to know how the EU agricultural policy works and replies to comments helps push them further up to the top.

    • @Healermain15
      @Healermain15 5 років тому +16

      Yes! I'd love a video on that topic!

    • @SaturnusDK
      @SaturnusDK 5 років тому +16

      @@jirivegner3711 Just google "EU 2018 budget". The budget is public property.

    • @unformedeight
      @unformedeight 5 років тому +3

      Yesss! Doooo ittt xD

  • @UchihaDarkForce
    @UchihaDarkForce 4 роки тому +145

    Short answer: no. It's a loss but the EU is strong enough to go without GB

    • @dragospatrascu577
      @dragospatrascu577 4 роки тому +3

      @Mark Corfield just wait . negociations start in March. This is the "phony war period" . the new type of war, the economic won, starts soon.

    • @dragospatrascu577
      @dragospatrascu577 4 роки тому +3

      @Mark Corfield I know. all the world saw that. now the dance starts

    • @edoardoturco8780
      @edoardoturco8780 4 роки тому +11

      J S I’m sorry tho bother you, but...
      Actually , no counties in Europe is currently in recession and I’ll tell you more:
      Lot of them increased better thanUK in the last three years, to show you a comparasion:
      The gdp of Uk increased as much France one’s, a state full of strikes and Et similia

    • @edoardoturco8780
      @edoardoturco8780 4 роки тому +6

      Giovanni Giova Why?

    • @edoardoturco8780
      @edoardoturco8780 4 роки тому +10

      Giovanni Giova According to you the smaller economies inside the union should be KO right now... But they are improving better than the bigger state members. I could agree with you on a general concept: small fish eaten by bigger fish... That’s why we created it, to make a stronger fish rather than a group of lonely fishes.
      Understood the analogy ?

  • @GCS88
    @GCS88 Місяць тому +3

    As someone from Ireland the main thing I noticed are Brits suddenly moving here claiming Irish passports due to Irish ancestry.

  • @KingBobXVI
    @KingBobXVI 5 років тому +570

    "Does anyone _really_ want a video about the UK's farming policy?"
    ...
    ...yes.

    • @marketsolutionsdigital1238
      @marketsolutionsdigital1238 5 років тому +6

      It's maybe cos if they did, they would have to explain that the farming industry in the UK is roughly the same size as it was when entering Europe all those years ago, BUT, is in the hands of half as many businesses. So in Britain, since entering the EU, farming in britain hasn't grown whatsoever to this day, and is from what I can gather, dominated by a hand full of big players. Even those are restricted in the number of crops we can produce fairly each year. The number of which was reduced when entering the EU as part of the CAP conditions placed on us, from what I read somewhere. So the British farming industry took a big hit when entering the EU, the main reason we were granted the rebate, so we could afford to subsidise our own industry losses which just had its global competitiveness taken away from it. It heightened competitive and entry barriers to the industry, helping cause oligopolies which then sit with the other elites, which then create trade deals like TTIP. Europe is just another example of elites taking the piss for their own gain. That's why right wing parties are gaining favour in Europe right now.

    • @woodshed1006
      @woodshed1006 5 років тому +4

      @@marketsolutionsdigital1238 But leaving the eu would only speed up the process off less land owners as subsidies only slowed down process because smaller farmers had more money to keep afloat tbh there is a lot of issues for farming in the future. And as the management of farming money changes it will probably favour walk ways form town people to accesses the countryside. Not the best for small farmers

    • @Mikellewe
      @Mikellewe 5 років тому +3

      I would be interested to know how very wealthy landowners get money from the EU. Also how many MPs and Members of the House of Lords are in receipt of CAP money.

    • @woodshed1006
      @woodshed1006 5 років тому

      @@Mikellewe I mean I live In Scotland and iknow for a fact lots of eu money gets lost iń Westminster so I can't really help about England and there are lots of factors in play which I don't know about that's all I can help you

    • @borntodoit8744
      @borntodoit8744 5 років тому +3

      @@marketsolutionsdigital1238 under investment in UK is purely the fault of UK government not EU policy. That includes argriculture... Don't blame the EU for UK policy not investing in UK.
      Simple analysis, March 2019 GDP figures : UK GDP IS Split 21% industry (goods) and 79% services.. where industry contains all agricultural uk industry (=1% of UK GDP).
      Argriculture ...is nothing compares to financial services (which if lost (and it will) will have the killer blow to UK prosperity within months of brexit as we lose financial passporting to Europe.
      DOWN WITH BREXIT
      UP WITH EU...IS SENSE TO STAY IN EU AND REFORM IT FROM WITHIN

  • @akirapunk4883
    @akirapunk4883 5 років тому +545

    There are 4 big actors on the global stage: US, EU, Russia
    and China. They have massive territories, and serious political, economic and political weight.
    Do you think it’s a coincidence that both Trump and Putin would rather the EU break up into smaller, more vulnerable chunks?

    • @meandmetoo8436
      @meandmetoo8436 5 років тому +95

      Russia is not on par with US/China/EU.
      If anything, Russia is in the same pack as Brasil and India.

    • @TheKrank20
      @TheKrank20 5 років тому +36

      @@meandmetoo8436 Military.

    • @meandmetoo8436
      @meandmetoo8436 5 років тому +14

      @@TheKrank20 in this case yes.

    • @meandmetoo8436
      @meandmetoo8436 5 років тому +12

      @@richardwillford2418 you forgot that they are a big exportator of gas though.
      But yes their economy is not that good AND their population is ageing.

    • @SteveDavies01
      @SteveDavies01 5 років тому +3

      Other than their massive nuclear capability. @@richardwillford2418

  • @yoemeuunitoful
    @yoemeuunitoful 4 роки тому +160

    I'd argue a rational brit is more a patriot than an overly emotional one.

    • @hyndscs
      @hyndscs 4 роки тому +7

      Agreed however getting Brits and EU to stop and analysis is harder than it used to be because they are no longer taught to critically analyse. Btw British and NZ educated

    • @jameswatsonatheistgamer
      @jameswatsonatheistgamer 4 роки тому +1

      Then you'd be wrong. Patriotism is patriotism.

    • @jameswatsonatheistgamer
      @jameswatsonatheistgamer 4 роки тому +4

      @@hyndscs Opinion. Not fact. We voted to leave the eussr and that's that.

    • @hyndscs
      @hyndscs 4 роки тому +12

      @@jameswatsonatheistgamer you have completely missed my point. That fact that we are no longer educated to analyse and critique. The person with the loudest voice is now heard not the person with the correct information or most persuasive arguement.
      And your remark if proof enough of that. I said nothing to the contrary in leaving and yet you have made the assumption that I was supporting the remain arguement.
      That is an exemplification of my exact point.
      You did not critically analyse my post.

    • @jameswatsonatheistgamer
      @jameswatsonatheistgamer 4 роки тому +1

      @@hyndscs We. So you've polled everyone in this country and British abroad. You must have a lot of free time on your hands. It's good that you've spoken to all 100 plus million of us .

  • @wingtaylor141
    @wingtaylor141 4 роки тому +94

    9:15 "Does anyone really want a video about the EU´s farming policy?" Given that the CAP "still accounts for 37% of the EU´s expenditure", yes, please go ahead...

    • @robinhood5627
      @robinhood5627 4 роки тому +3

      I said that, like well it's actually significant and really important to this so erm yuh...

    • @Taporeee
      @Taporeee 4 роки тому +2

      Yes we do.
      A fascinating topic.

  • @JamesHardaker
    @JamesHardaker 5 років тому +684

    based on the fact that UK politicians are panicking and EU politicians are not - the answer is pretty obvious.

    • @GCJNash
      @GCJNash 5 років тому +18

      Then don't play poker.

    • @dutchuncle3310
      @dutchuncle3310 5 років тому +34

      Anon Wibble the EU did not put the backstop in to prevent the Uk from exiting. It wanted the backstop to only apply to Northern Ireland wich would practically have been no more then a slight inconvenience to the rest of the UK. Unless I misread the downplaying by Whitehall of the value of the northern Irish economy to the UK.

    • @dutchuncle3310
      @dutchuncle3310 5 років тому +22

      Anon Wibble the bad thing is not that they said it, the problem is the UK really can not afford a hard Brexit.

    • @dutchuncle3310
      @dutchuncle3310 5 років тому +27

      shaun muppet finder the countries whose economies are most exposed to the UK appear to think they can. You also have to take into account that even a hard Brexit will not end all trade. Just make it more difficult, it also depends what the exports into consist off. The UK’s biggest exports: cars, car parts and financial services are not indispensable. In fact reducing these may be beneficial to the EU as a whole For instance the Netherlands wich is very exposed to the UK market will lose about 4% off its GDP about two Dillion, painful but not devastating. Also Dutch exports to the UK are mainly fresh vegetables wich will be difficult for the UK to get elsewhere, because the are bulky and have a short shelve life.

    • @stephenhathaway269
      @stephenhathaway269 5 років тому +8

      @Anon Wibble how convieniently simplistic you are. It is just plain stupidy i wonder or are you being deliberately disingenuous?

  • @DawryMike
    @DawryMike 5 років тому +247

    The UK went into a negotiation with no leverage and expected to win. The EU has made it's position clear for the past 2 years, the UK cant get the perks of an EU member with no strings attached.

    • @jirivegner3711
      @jirivegner3711 5 років тому +53

      No leverage and no negotiating position. No wonder everyone else thoughts are: WTF are they doing?

    • @adrivensketch3782
      @adrivensketch3782 5 років тому +13

      There isnt any perks to the eu except all the trade restrictions they put in place the eu is joke Netherlands will be leaving in the near future aswell and dont be surprised if Poland goes both countries suffering what werve suffered at the hands of the in-elected Brussels seriously hope we leave with a no deal the eu wont function hate tge stubborn lot in Brussels that make sure france and Germany get the best of it a deal woukd be bice but not mays deal or what Brussels has come up with both deals support the un-elected in Brussels i voted leave so we csn control our trade better for the economy

    • @RoScFan
      @RoScFan 5 років тому +46

      @@adrivensketch3782 youre so stupid.

    • @SaturnusDK
      @SaturnusDK 5 років тому +20

      @Mat H Well, triggering a referendum on the EU to solve an internal problem in the conservative party during the most severe refugee crisis in post-war European history wasn't exactly a brilliant idea on his part.

    • @Sjokola
      @Sjokola 5 років тому +30

      @@adrivensketch3782 A few points. First: please use punctuation. Your comment is really hard to read. Second: I don't think the Netherlands will leave. There is a leave movement but at the moment it's in the far minority. And Third: it's more of a question. Who are the unelected you are talking about? They parliament is chosen and has final say over the commission members. Even the European council are all elected leaders.

  • @adrianomendola9137
    @adrianomendola9137 4 роки тому +24

    Would really like a "what does the UK manufacture" video. Excellent idea.

    • @daverevill5577
      @daverevill5577 4 роки тому +1

      Yes and we know why we've been in the eu far to long

    • @kneedeacon2309
      @kneedeacon2309 3 роки тому +1

      Adriano Mendola - uk do not manufacture any stuffs now, all been moved to the eu countries by Brussell

  • @ThePkb22
    @ThePkb22 4 роки тому +36

    Quite simply. NO ONE has ever asked "What deal will the UK give to the EU"?
    It's always the other way round, even when posed by leading Brexiters.
    That, right there, tells us all we need to know about the balance of leverage in these negotiations, and therefore, who "needs" who, to the greater extent.

    • @lippydalips4537
      @lippydalips4537 4 роки тому +1

      Clever comment Phil lol I'm called Phil too lol haha😁👍

    • @blog251
      @blog251 4 роки тому +1

      Phil Booket - what exactly do you suggest we give to the EU - apart from £ billions every year? Regarding who needs who? We need each other.

    • @jeanjean59ful
      @jeanjean59ful 4 роки тому +4

      @@blog251 The 350 Millions per week that would go to the NHS after Brexit was a lie. Nigel Farage admitted it after the vote. Also, not paying the EU doesn;t mean you'd save that money, because it could cost way more not to have a deal with the EU. The EU is losing one partner. The UK is losing a group of partners.

    • @ThePkb22
      @ThePkb22 4 роки тому

      @@blog251 I totally agree. What we're talking about here, is the art of negotiation, and how it has been/should have been applied to these negotiations, from which our future relationship with the EU is likely to be set. It was a crucial part of my trade for 25 years.
      The first step, is to prepare thoroughly. That means assessing what it is you're intending to achieve, how you intend to achieve it, and what you're prepared to pay (which may not just be a financial calculation).
      You cannot do any of the above successfully if you begin by overestimating your leverage, and underestimating that of the other party/parties.
      Successful negotiations are about understanding the purpose of the negotiations, establishing a mutually beneficial relationship, building trust, and demonstrating good faith, throughout.
      Making threats, explicit or otherwise, particularly threats likely to hurt you, more than it will the party you're threatening, undermines all the above, and serves to strengthen the resolve of the other party. As does attempting (as the UK did) to circumnavigate the people with whom you're supposed to be negotiating, to appeal direct to the 'customer' or 'authorising body'.
      The UK's approach from the start has been combative, not co-operative, which only served to unite the other EU nations even further, and therefore make it less likely to get concessions.
      It's that age-old issue of UK politicians being SO concerned with how they come across in the domestic press/public opinion, they approach international diplomacy in strategic straight-jacket.
      My point was, had Leavers stopped to think about what they were saying, they might have been more realistic in their assessment of the consequences of UK's initiative and negotiations may have been more effective as a result.

    • @blog251
      @blog251 4 роки тому +2

      @@ThePkb22 I agree with a lot of what you say but it was clear that the EU negotiators knew Theresa May was bluffing and I believe that no deal should definitely be genuinely on the table. I believe it is on the table and if it means that it's the ONLY way we can rid ourselves of the EU then we should do it.

  • @ciangargan
    @ciangargan 5 років тому +67

    It's in the EU's best interest to punish the UK for leaving to keep the union strong. If Brexit goes terribly for the UK then no other country will even consider leaving the EU. It's a tough pill to swallow.

    • @BigHenFor
      @BigHenFor 5 років тому +36

      Nobody is punishing the UK. You cannot leave a club and then ask to use the facilities on terms equivalent to card-carrying members. That would be illogical and to suggest otherwise is disengenuous.

    • @magunra3k
      @magunra3k 5 років тому +4

      @@BigHenFor you can if that club insists that you keep paying your membership fees for a few more years and gets all salty because you were not happy with the unelected management making choices about what the members can and cannot do

    • @Woffenhorst
      @Woffenhorst 5 років тому +28

      @@magunra3k You don't get a refund on money you've already agreed to pay. Binding contracts and all that. You're welcome to leave, but you need to hold up your part of the contract anyway.

    • @magunra3k
      @magunra3k 5 років тому +1

      @@Woffenhorst well we changed our minds about the contract , deal with it.

    • @FriedrichHerschel
      @FriedrichHerschel 5 років тому +20

      @@magunra3k Try to cancel your phone contract today. You will pay until the end of the notice period, not end payments immediatly.

  • @Arka47o92
    @Arka47o92 5 років тому +1497

    As a French I have to say that I always wait your video.
    They are full of informations and fact. You do not put any judgment you are just explaining.
    And this is quite interesting imo.
    Keep doing what your doing. Carry on, cause a lot of people are interested in.

    • @anurgaprasad123
      @anurgaprasad123 5 років тому +30

      bonjour croissant with snails

    • @magnets1000
      @magnets1000 5 років тому +42

      Every source has some bias, and this video is no exception. I can clearly tell where the creators stand on their position on brexit

    • @smogstreaming
      @smogstreaming 5 років тому +21

      Thank you for learning to speak English. ^_^

    • @davidpower1583
      @davidpower1583 5 років тому +20

      As a French man how are you enjoying the riots?

    • @anurgaprasad123
      @anurgaprasad123 5 років тому +16

      @@davidpower1583 similar to us back in 2011

  • @wijk89
    @wijk89 2 роки тому +5

    The whole Brexit thing is emotionally driven and a bit silly.

  • @MsMinoula
    @MsMinoula 4 роки тому +43

    2:34 you used the symbol the other way round (smaller

    • @susanboyle7085
      @susanboyle7085 4 роки тому

      I know. It demonstrates wonderfully how inept they are.

    • @CityWhisperer
      @CityWhisperer 4 роки тому +3

      Susan Boyle oo someone isn’t happy with the results 😁

  • @jamescbender43081
    @jamescbender43081 5 років тому +384

    I'm an American (living in London) and politically I'm a Libertarian. Having said that, I don't get the "George Soros" comment. Granted, I've only seen a few of your videos, but they seem to be pretty objective to me. You're not making up the facts, just reporting them. And you've had some of the most balanced, clear and concise videos on Brexit that I've seen Good job! 👍

    • @faisalkhan786fk
      @faisalkhan786fk 5 років тому +39

      James Bender if you don't understand something yell 'fake news'. Yell loud enough and it negates the other person's facts.

    • @ecpgieicg
      @ecpgieicg 5 років тому +4

      I read it as half a joke. I am sure there are lots of petulant rants. But - I have seen - equally so, if not more, are comments expressing real view points and some do delve into their reasoning. Same with comments of comments. Quality videos attract quality comments. Open minded youtuber response further encourages that. Such is the pattern I’ve seen.

    • @MikkelKjrJensen
      @MikkelKjrJensen 5 років тому +15

      @@faisalkhan786fk Sometimes they do understand, they just don't like the facts being reported.

    • @TheSilence1
      @TheSilence1 5 років тому +28

      A good portion of people that support Brexit are of the right-wing. Some are even of the far-right. And to those people, any person or entity that is against isolationism is "an ally of the Jews and their schemes of global domination." George Soros, by the way, is a wealthy Jewish-American media mogul and Holocaust survivor. You see, a large part of Brexit's appeal to the right wing is more control over immigration. For the last two years, right wing elements have been making massive gains in all the major democracies of the world by uniting their people against immigration, and in particular Muslim refugees. For this, right wingers have been criticized by mainstream media and social media as zenophobic, racist, etc. In turn, right wingers criticize MSM as being funded by Soros (read Jews) and followers of social media are his "brainless puppets". You will often see right wingers frame this as a struggle between "nationalists" vs "globalists", but it should be clear to anyone that those are mere code words that can be substituted with conservative vs progressive, white vs non-white, Nazi vs Jew. Take your pick.

    • @boptah7489
      @boptah7489 5 років тому +2

      You cannot be a libertarian and think that this channel is balanced. This channel is an EU supporting channel. and so is socialist/fascist in its outlook.

  • @kiruschka123
    @kiruschka123 5 років тому +180

    You kinda forget to say that the UK's trade with countries outside of the EU are all happening under trade deals which were negotiated by the EU.
    This said, I would love to see a video if the UK actually could negotiate better deals (more preferable for themselves) with other countries like the USA/China etc. and how these countries could react to Britains main industries (finance, insurance etc.).

    • @gentlemanvontweed7147
      @gentlemanvontweed7147 5 років тому +47

      Currently the other major trading blocs want us to go no-deal because that means we'd have no leverage against them and they could analy rape us in any deal negotiations.
      If our leadership doesn't get its act together and start taking Brexit seriously, we can expect TESCO to sport yankee chem-foods and Chinese construction workers renovating our homes.

    • @quoth_raven
      @quoth_raven 5 років тому +15

      Probably they'll get worse deals because they will have less negotiating power: after Brexit there will be a scramble to set up deals replacing the EU deals, which will be much more urgent for the UK than the other partner ;)

    • @GuusJanssen
      @GuusJanssen 5 років тому +68

      It's factually *impossible* for the UK to negotiate better trade deals than the EU could. It's so simple, even a three year old can understand. So I'll explain it for the Leave Voters: imagine Brazil has negotiated a trade deal with the UK, and out of the thousands of conditions in that deal there are say 15 better for the UK compared to the EU deal with Brazil, the EU will immediately contact Brazil to renegotiate the EU deal with Brazil. And since there is no way the UK with its 65 million people will be more important to Brazil than the EU with 513 million people, Brazil will never allow the UK to get better terms than the EU. Just for fun I googled the EU - Brazil trade: the EU is Brazil's second biggest trading partner, while Brazil is the EU's 11th biggest trading partner. And the EU is the biggest foreign investor in Brazil. Guess who's afraid of who.
      Also: In the EU - Japan trade deal for instance is a "competition"-chapter that ensures that both sides commit themselves to maintaining comprehensive competition rules and transparency to another. One of the rules is that if (say) Japan is negotiating a trade deal with a third party (say the UK) that could potentially harm the economy of the other party (in this example the EU), Japan is required to provide full transparency to the EU in the Japan - UK negotiations, and the EU has veto rights on the deal between Japan and the EU. *BOOM*

    • @NJ-wb1cz
      @NJ-wb1cz 5 років тому +11

      @@GuusJanssen you're engaged in Project Fear! Under WTO rules Britain will get flooded with cheap goods and services, so it won't have to produce anything anymore! No production means no exports, no exports mean no problems! There's nothing more anti-globalist than having a global open market inside your borders!

    • @francesco8000
      @francesco8000 5 років тому +32

      "Under WTO rules Britain will get flooded with cheap goods and services, so it won't have to produce anything anymore! No production means no exports, no exports mean no problems! "
      Which also means no Jobs....if you don't have to product or export every company in the UK would close you moron.

  • @azarjalil
    @azarjalil 4 роки тому +1

    you guys are awesome! Thanks! all he video ideas are excellent. including the farming one.

  • @R0B1NG5
    @R0B1NG5 5 років тому +141

    I think I always just assumed the UK was less needed than the EU. Its just a matter of size, population ect. I don't logically see how it could be the other way, unless you have an inflated sense of self importance.

    • @flitsertheo
      @flitsertheo 5 років тому +49

      If the British are Number One for one thing then it's their inflated sense of self importance.

    • @captainmallard549
      @captainmallard549 5 років тому +12

      We have marmite. They don't.

    • @lesserspottedmugwump.363
      @lesserspottedmugwump.363 5 років тому +1

      The U.K.s GDP is larger than the smallest 34 EU countries combined.
      There are only 49 countries in the EU.

    • @lacasadipavlov
      @lacasadipavlov 5 років тому +12

      @@lesserspottedmugwump.363 are you sure? are you positive??

    • @danscutaru7579
      @danscutaru7579 5 років тому +1

      Which is just the case

  • @RBuckminsterFuller
    @RBuckminsterFuller 5 років тому +663

    The EU as a whole is a much larger economy than the UK by itself. The impact will be pretty clear. But what's wrong with the basic idea that we all need each other? Two people building a house can do a better job than either one by themselves.

    • @spaceowl5957
      @spaceowl5957 5 років тому +56

      RBuckminsterFuller
      I fully agree. Cooperation is arguably humanities biggest superpower. Cooperating benefits all of us

    • @lacasadipavlov
      @lacasadipavlov 5 років тому +55

      yes... except it's not 2 people. It was 28 people and one left...

    • @vogliounacocacola
      @vogliounacocacola 5 років тому +72

      Most people, or at least lots of them, don't like to think about complex issues. Most people like simple problems with even simpler solutions, and that's why populists prosper in times when there are big problems. They simplify them and simplify the solution.
      Unfortunately, modern economies and modern states are extremely complex things and as their problems go well beyond national frontiers, the only possible solutions are equally complex and transnational. You can't defeat terrorism, pollution, the economy, the wealth gap and all of these stuff as a single country because they're international problems. But it's much easier to sing Rule Britannia and wave your blue passport. It's simpler.

    • @DeathlordSlavik
      @DeathlordSlavik 5 років тому +34

      No point in building a house when the EU just lets someone else come in and burn it down then bans speech criticizing the people who burned it down because they are migrants.

    • @Kelmire1
      @Kelmire1 5 років тому +23

      You can't build a house with a communist that encourages mass migration and censors both people and all forms of media when said immigrants begin raping European women en mass.
      Cooperation is good when it makes sense. However, blind coopoeration is what led to the rise of Hitler.
      You think most Germans wanted unlimited warfare? They were solddown the river by corrupt politicians that weren't ll that different from EU leaders.
      Okay, think of it this wy... the EU commission is heavily in favor of open borders to mass foreign migration from outside Europe. However progressive a move you may think an ethnic invasion is, think on this: At no point was your consent or the consent of ANY European person's consent sought at any time over this issue. Good or bad, that is NOT democracy. They are fascists by definition.
      You can build a home with them, but I won't. Liberal values still mean something to me and censorship is not liberalism. It truly makes me wnt to cry when I see how brinwashed 21st centory Europeans truly are.
      Part of protecting diversity is ensuring that it exists in the first place - did you ever think of that? Multiculturlism is ultimtely the death of diversity and vriety is the spice of life.
      Your 'why can't we all just get along?' mentality, however noble, is utterly impractical and ultimately, when you really think about it; highly unethical.

  • @josephbanatlao6461
    @josephbanatlao6461 Рік тому +4

    After 4 years, the answer appears NOT

  • @cerber991
    @cerber991 4 роки тому +4

    Thank you for also including intra-EU trade when showing the portion of EU trade that is linked to the UK. That seems to be the more informative of the two, given the UK's current position as a member state and the fact that a change of said position would alter the trade share.
    And yes, your videos are very informative and comfortable to quote and to self-check for all angles considered, so please make that more in-depth video on UK manufacturing.
    P.S. Would be nice if you do a video covering evaluation of the benefits of EU membership the UK enjoys, since one can see devout Brexiteers quoting the net contributions from payments ballance, yet completely ignore the market access, passporting and competition benefits memership grants them and how these and others blow away the net contributions of the UK by value.

  • @keeyan2166
    @keeyan2166 5 років тому +337

    2:32 The greater than sign is the wrong way round...

    • @sebbyh9764
      @sebbyh9764 5 років тому +10

      Freudian slip?!?!?!

    • @Haav89
      @Haav89 5 років тому +1

      I didn't notice it 😂😂

    • @yannicmodritscher4646
      @yannicmodritscher4646 5 років тому +3

      @@sebbyh9764 Or one Mistake.

    • @IIAndersII
      @IIAndersII 5 років тому +5

      Oh god ... that mistake hurts my eyes.

    • @t1rjb1
      @t1rjb1 5 років тому

      No it isn't. Less than sign looks like a tilted L

  • @angelic8632002
    @angelic8632002 5 років тому +274

    I'm not sure if you have done a video on this yet, but could you put together a video on how much the common market in Europe boosts its members economies?
    A lot of people seems to fixate on the direct costs of being a member, not realizing the in terms of trade and job creation, that cost is negligible(or at least that's the impression Ive got from a cursory look into it).

    • @MDP1702
      @MDP1702 5 років тому +40

      The problem with that is, it is difficult to know exactly, we know that it boosts the economy quite a lot, but actually calculating is difficult.
      The best way to find out is basically letting the UK crash out and see how that impacts their economy on the short and long term and then compare it to eu nations and the UK before brexit.

    • @dictatoribenevolo8394
      @dictatoribenevolo8394 5 років тому +20

      just let the UK crash out, and you'll see the impact hab

    • @sugoruyo
      @sugoruyo 5 років тому +7

      @@MDP1702 or in a more constructive way we can try to extract data from the experiences of countries that went after it had reached a certain size. Say, looking at the last decade's new members.

    • @angelic8632002
      @angelic8632002 5 років тому +3

      @@sugoruyo This, as well as trying to compare other developed economies and how well the banking sector handles loans and investments, as well as tariffs etc.
      Sure its probably impossible to get a somewhat narrow number but we can at least put things in perspective and estimate a ballpark sum.

    • @SaturnusDK
      @SaturnusDK 5 років тому +5

      @@angelic8632002 Try taking the last 4-5 countries that joined the EU and see how their economies have evolved since joining the EU. That should give you a good starting point at least. For the best data probably only take those that joined in 2004.

  • @AlistairKiwi
    @AlistairKiwi 21 день тому +1

    The UK joined the EU in 1973. Not a founder. But it became a most important & powerful part of the EU. Also, while in the EU, the UK was the country the US turned to for US matters.

  • @josev1544
    @josev1544 4 роки тому +66

    just by logic in general, any single entity is usually worse off leaving a group than the group itself. even though both lose out.

    • @Triton1051
      @Triton1051 4 роки тому +9

      simple logic isn't always preferable when discussing complex issues. a single entity might, just as easily, be far better off leaving the group. a child leaving a dysfunctional family for example. they might even initially miss their family and still be better off in the long run. there will almost certainly be problems at first, but change over time does often actually improve the overall situation.

    • @nissehult7376
      @nissehult7376 4 роки тому +4

      @nom deplumeone So, the countres in the EU are not part of the WORLD?

    • @Tespri
      @Tespri 4 роки тому +4

      @@nissehult7376
      Countries in EU are small part of the world. Part that has been in decline and isn't competitive on international markets anymore (which is why they support protectionist policies)

    • @DBArtsCreators
      @DBArtsCreators 4 роки тому +2

      Indeed, but the UK and EU are not single entities, and the UK isn't leaving to become a 100% independent isolationist entity. The UK is a conglomeration of millions with connections around the world, and will be joining the world as an equal entity rather than a fragment of another entity.

    • @martins4879
      @martins4879 4 роки тому

      @nom deplumeone who is keeping UK to trade with the world now? If every Brexiteer in UK is arguing with your logic, I don't need to wonder about anything.

  • @timur900subscribe
    @timur900subscribe 5 років тому +294

    Start of video: 'I very rarely read comments'. Later in video: 'Leave a comment if you want to see this.'

    • @trampoliiin
      @trampoliiin 5 років тому +17

      Because comments reflect user engagement that youtube measures and influences the recommendation algorithms with and keeps commenters coming back for more.

    • @timur900subscribe
      @timur900subscribe 5 років тому +10

      @@trampoliiin You are correct, but I just wanted to highlight the hypocrisy in him saying that he rarely reads comments, but then asks feedback on what video he should make.

    • @StNick119
      @StNick119 5 років тому +3

      If UA-camrs are anything like us, they can select which comments appear first, the most recent or the most highly rated. Generally, the highest-rated comments are less abusive and of better quality than the rest. "Rarely read comments" could also mean "Don't read most of the comments" while still reading top ones. In which case it would be important for people to comment the topics they want so that those topics can be liked and pushed up to the top.

    • @oceanplanet8160
      @oceanplanet8160 4 роки тому +6

      I'm pretty sure he was talking about other videos. But sure, act like a bitch.

    • @OldTeaMate
      @OldTeaMate 4 роки тому

      That's quite a static perception. You don't regard poster able to keep an eye out for specific comments on a certain video, in which he made two viewer opinion requests within the next couple of days or weeks?

  • @steves1015
    @steves1015 5 років тому +496

    Great video - I like the approach of using facts, not emotions, which is something this whole debacle has been sorely lacking.

    • @haruyanto8085
      @haruyanto8085 5 років тому +3

      @@asitpatel1853 "Outsider"? You're already an outsider

    • @steves1015
      @steves1015 5 років тому +2

      Asit Patel yeah I agree - I think it is useful for both people living within and outside of the UK.
      To be honest though, as a Brit, I’m mostly sick of hearing about it and want it to be just done with :)

    • @KingBobXVI
      @KingBobXVI 5 років тому +25

      @bobbi brown - "A free Britian voted overwhelmingly to be free of the EU bureaucrats."
      Facts, man; facts. The UK voted by less than a 2% margin to leave the EU. That is not "overwhelming" by any sense of the word.

    • @DaithXD
      @DaithXD 5 років тому +2

      @@bobbi brown Please don't forget that EU bureaucrats spare all members to have these bureaucrats themselves. UK will have to stock up with their own bureaucrats in the future.

    • @Coldheart322
      @Coldheart322 5 років тому +1

      @@DaithXD Depending on what you mean by bureaucrats, the UK has more than the EU has.

  • @iamhole
    @iamhole 4 роки тому +230

    you never touched on the common fisheries policy.

    • @themodelrailwaymen3649
      @themodelrailwaymen3649 4 роки тому +39

      No, and its worth ~£2bn to them in my calculations. Never mind the damage done to our marine ecology by their factory ships and the Dutch electro pulse techniques. Who checks their catches? They do.

    • @pete_lind
      @pete_lind 4 роки тому +21

      Most European countries have given tax payer money to keep fishing boats in business , that includes UK ... have you whined about that much ?
      And then half of all fresh fish that comes to market is thrown away as spoiled goods end of a day ... its the most idiotic system ever .
      First you subsidies with taxes a business that over produce , then you end throwing half of all its products away as trash .and pay for that too .

    • @themodelrailwaymen3649
      @themodelrailwaymen3649 4 роки тому +7

      @@pete_lind Never happened in the UK prior to '76. Seaside towns flourished also before the 47 year winter.

    • @pete_lind
      @pete_lind 4 роки тому +13

      @@themodelrailwaymen3649
      Independent , September 2017
      Europe imports about 75 % of the British catch, a cornucopia of 40 species that is too exotic for most domestic consumers .
      The group estimates around 90 % of the cod supply was imported from countries such as Iceland and Norway in 2014, a number not likely to change substantially no matter what terms are agreed on Brexit, especially as the oceans warm up.
      Much of the salmon consumed in Britain is farmed in steel cages off the coasts of Scotland, Norway or Iceland, while tuna are generally caught in the Indian Ocean and imported .
      Get the picture yet ?
      UK catch fish that is exported to EU and then imports fish to UK , from non EU countries , what if EU stops all fish import from UK , when they need to protect their fishermen ?

    • @craighills2977
      @craighills2977 4 роки тому +10

      @@pete_lind then we dont export the fish we catch.. maybe we eat it instead

  • @acmulhern
    @acmulhern 4 роки тому +7

    The EU farming lobbyists are like James Bond villains. They even look evil! And they're making it very difficult for organic farmers to make a living and for wildlife preservation workers to do yheir jobs.

  • @Struckgold
    @Struckgold 5 років тому +751

    It's remarkable that you have to explain that the UK needs needs the EU far more than vice versa.

    • @NJ-wb1cz
      @NJ-wb1cz 5 років тому +64

      @Felix B it won't come back because it never left! The Commonwealth is strong! UK is regrouping to capture those dirty rebels in North America and then conquer the world with combined forces! Combined UK US military will dominate the Earth! Everything is going according to plan!

    • @fburton8
      @fburton8 5 років тому +13

      He concluded "slightly more" not "far more".

    • @Chris-xl6pd
      @Chris-xl6pd 5 років тому +19

      Its remarkable that someone that subscribes to that view didnt pay enough attention to the information in front of them to realise it was "a bit more" not "far more".
      Typical another person that just shits on Brexit and only hears what they want to hear.

    • @MDP1702
      @MDP1702 5 років тому +72

      Christopher Everson
      At the end he said "it looks like we need the EU far more than they need us"
      Who didn't pay enough attention again?

    • @Chris-xl6pd
      @Chris-xl6pd 5 років тому +5

      @@MDP1702 12:45
      I rest my case

  • @TheDarkever
    @TheDarkever 5 років тому +248

    I work in a large EU company that makes 2 billions € revenues every year and has huge offices in London. In the last few months we have been hastily closing all warehouses in UK to avoid the devastating expenses on customs we would face by shipping from there, and we moved them to EU countries where we won't have to face these issues. Those are hundreds of jobs and tax money for the UK that are gone forever.

    • @MrGraemeb2022
      @MrGraemeb2022 5 років тому +22

      I don't know why you worry. The British government ( and Civil service) has no intention of leaving the EU. It won't happen. Democracy is a myth in the face of 'Remain' MPs, an arrogant and incompetent civil service and a mainstream media all of whom are totally opposed to what the democratic referendum result demands. We didn't want to go to war in Iraq, but we ended up there. We didn't want to go into Afghanistan, but we ended up there. We didn't want mass immigration, but we got it thrust upon us. Democracy? Yeah right. In your dreams people.
      Just go and watch 'Bake off' and 'Gogglebox'and let your 'betters' do what's best for you...

    • @eddherring4972
      @eddherring4972 5 років тому +10

      Baaaaaaa 🐑

    • @hymatwat9412
      @hymatwat9412 5 років тому

      TheDarkever good

    • @danceartist8203
      @danceartist8203 5 років тому +41

      @@MrGraemeb2022 Its not solely up to them anymore though. There is a growing sentiment in the EU that we might actually be better off without them. (They never really wanted to play along and have blocked some cool things in the past.)

    • @spidermanrosettastone1834
      @spidermanrosettastone1834 5 років тому +22

      @@hymatwat9412 yes but without money, you dont have good education, or healh, coz many pays for that, and If UK get poor your will looe EDUCATION, HEALTH, poor roads... etc etc, coz of the money... it a domimo effect, you will keep your nationalism, a greater cost than just money and jobs... no tax money no social programs... etc.

  • @zachtong5985
    @zachtong5985 4 роки тому +4

    Very good explanation of a highly complex issue for those of us outside the UK/EU. Other than a small number of very high priced goods there is very little overall interest in the US for UK goods which are often seen as inferior and over priced.

  • @crystalwalker6496
    @crystalwalker6496 4 роки тому +11

    I admit to not knowing as much being on this side of the pond and I can give you folks the benefit of the doubt on much of your presentation. Do dispute one of your points. It isn’t Brexit’s uncertainty. It is the uncertainty of Brexit that is causing trouble with investment. Brexit has not happened, once it has the uncertainties start flipping to certainties. It isn’t Brexit or no Brexit, it is this limbo currently going on that cannot be worked out until the obstructionists get out of the way.
    I think both sides will have short term pains, but long term gains. The UK lost a global empire, but still does well with all the commonwealth countries. The same will occur with leaving the single market. I was excited about the EU in its infancy back in my college days. But the world changes and progresses at a faster rate nowadays. Empires rise and fall in decades, not centuries and nothing is too big to fall. That’s got my curiosity. Will the EU fall? Not that Brexit will usher it it, but is it a bellwether or foreshadowing? I don’t see Brexit as a huge seismic shift economically, but politically and socially.
    I was born on the west side of the failed city of Detroit and moved away, so I realize bigger isn’t better. That clouds my perspective too.

    • @dallassukerkin6878
      @dallassukerkin6878 4 роки тому

      Hmm ... I do believe that your carefully measured words triggered a bot quite badly {looks at K L with embarassment :D}.

  • @PrawnzHD
    @PrawnzHD 5 років тому +30

    At 2:30 you did an error. The greater than sign is the wrong way around, so you're saying that UK is greater than EU in the video whilst telling us the opposite in the narration.

    • @AugustusCrosby
      @AugustusCrosby 5 років тому +5

      glad to know someone else noticed it. this is the first video of theirs ive seen and this mistake seems like a huge oversight and I'm not sure how much of the facts and figures can also be trusted.

    • @PrawnzHD
      @PrawnzHD 5 років тому +1

      @Percy Harry Hotspur thanks, but that's a grammatical error, not a factual one. The latter tend to be a lot more important as they're misleading whilst what i said was still fully understandable, and did not change the meaning of my point; unlike the greater than sign being the other way around.
      What I'm trying to say is that i don't care about my grammar as long as you 'get me'
      Interesting quote!

    • @jamesc9882
      @jamesc9882 5 років тому

      yea lmao

    • @NorthernSystems
      @NorthernSystems 5 років тому

      So happy that I wasn’t the only person to see this.

  • @tizianae
    @tizianae 5 років тому +6

    I am Italian. I live in Dublin and I earn my living by using multilingualism. I live a happy life that I wouldn't have had of it weren't for the EU. I do contribute to the development of this country and myself. I'll always be thankful for the mindset I've acquired growing up on a pro-EU mentality.

  • @Rich-zj5xo
    @Rich-zj5xo 4 роки тому +8

    British people want to buy German cars this will not change after Brexit. But they may have to pay more for them and for food. The ordinary person will be poorer after Brexit.
    Would you build a new factory in Britain or Europe ask Tesla. Britain is a small island with few resources which is great for defence but adds costs to exports and imports.
    Europe will see more growth and investment in the next ten years than Britain.
    Brexit will be a disaster for Britain and ordinary British people .

    • @ojlbrickwork8092
      @ojlbrickwork8092 4 роки тому

      Really lol wouldn't bank on it

    • @neiltitmus9744
      @neiltitmus9744 3 роки тому

      @Alistair Bolden no c ok

    • @Rich-zj5xo
      @Rich-zj5xo 3 роки тому

      @King Maximus so we can buy food from USA 2000 miles away, Australia, New Zealand and sell our farmers out. Buy Japanese cars there good but the majority of UK people buy German if they can.
      Its all rubbish anyway Boris says we will prosper mightily, just words. I hope we do but ask him if we don't will he go on universal credit. No way will he..

    • @Rich-zj5xo
      @Rich-zj5xo 3 роки тому

      @Alistair Bolden Hi Alistair
      The USA as all countries acts in its own interests. The UK is not special in the USA interests, look at suez.
      Conventional war in Europe is unlikely in the foreseeable future in any major country.
      Who will the west i.e UK, EU USA have to defend its self against in the future. Economically and military probably China.

    • @Rich-zj5xo
      @Rich-zj5xo 3 роки тому

      @King Maximus Yes but Tesla just decided to build mega factory in Berlin not UK. We decided to leave EU. That's fine but its all about a deal. Nothing to do with sovereignty, EU market 450 million UK 65 million.
      USA wants a deal with EU first just using Brexit as a tool to weaken UK and EU.
      UK farmers can't compete with USA or Australia due to land mass and farming practices.
      I don't know of any deal where a smaller company buys at better rates than a larger 1.
      It does not matter what you or I think something will happen it will be good, bad or no change. I hope you are right and Iam wrong.

  • @robertharneis9506
    @robertharneis9506 4 роки тому +6

    This video discuses the EU as if it is a homgeous whole but the problem for the EU is that certain member states will suffer greatly from Brexit and others wont suffer much at all.

    • @allymcmoist1484
      @allymcmoist1484 4 роки тому +1

      @Zannekin We don't need help. We will be free to trade with whoever we like, on what terms suit us. It's called sovereignty.

    • @mgDuckyyy
      @mgDuckyyy 4 роки тому

      @Zannekin Do they?. The majority voted to stay?. But Europeans don't understand that word...Majority...

  • @brenorocha6687
    @brenorocha6687 5 років тому +115

    Of course I want a video about the EU farming policy!! Please!

    • @coolhandlukeful
      @coolhandlukeful 4 роки тому +2

      Farming and fisheries please.

    • @billycorgan3934
      @billycorgan3934 3 роки тому

      An extra one to check the UK supermarket's shelves after Brexit 🤣

  • @johanwittens7712
    @johanwittens7712 5 років тому +185

    Small error in the budget calculations though. The EU will not lose 13% of it's budget, it will lose only 6%. The Eu budget in 2018 was around 160 Billion Euro or 140 Billion pounds. We'll calculate in pounds for the UK to follow the video.
    So if the UK contributes 14 Billion pounds after the rebate, thats only 10% of 140 Billion, not 13% as claimed. Plus the EU will no longer be paying the 6 Billion per year that he UK now gets from the EU. So the net contribution of the UK is not 14 Billion, but only 8 Billion per year. Compared to the whole budget of 140 Billion that is only 5.8% of the total EU budget. Lets make it 6% to be generous.
    Or am i going crazy here?

    • @thompoz7114
      @thompoz7114 5 років тому +25

      This video is very inaccurate and poorly made. Just check 2:31. "The EU is larger bloc than the UK" but shows UK > EU.

    • @Wibinable
      @Wibinable 5 років тому +13

      Also, plenty of money that is "going" to the EU is actually for projects implemented in the UK. Much more so than for other countries. Thus, the gap gets even smaller.

    • @johanwittens7712
      @johanwittens7712 5 років тому +16

      @@Wibinable Yes but that is part of the 6 billion the uk gets from the eu every year. That is already included in my calculations. So if i didn't miss anything 6% is about right...

    • @pew-pew2224
      @pew-pew2224 5 років тому +22

      No and another fact that is missed is that the trade between the EU and the UK might be parts of complete products that is assembled in other EU-countries. This manufacturing could be located some where else in the EU. This will increase jobs and GDP in these countries and thus minimize the loss of buying power for EU as a whole. So it might not even be 6%.

    • @pauladams4886
      @pauladams4886 5 років тому +5

      Johan Wittens
      🇬🇧 Great 👍 we can spend it on our people , we voted out and we want out

  • @gernotp382
    @gernotp382 4 роки тому +1

    Very good video! Thank you!

  • @jonsid6628
    @jonsid6628 4 роки тому +3

    No one "needs" anyone. And no one knows if the UK or EU will be "better " once the UK leaves.

    • @kneedeacon2309
      @kneedeacon2309 3 роки тому +1

      Jon Sid X- once uk leaves ,we can be better friends, nobody controls anybody, individual countries control themselves.

  • @anaveragepondturtle886
    @anaveragepondturtle886 5 років тому +95

    Yeah actually please do a video on the EU agricultural policy. And the the Netherlands as well

    • @duckpuddles
      @duckpuddles 5 років тому +3

      As a farmer in the UK I can vouch for the fact that we have been screwed for decades. I visit Germany and France quite a bit and observe farms half my size with equipment and buildings fit for a farm twice my size. On top of that they are all receiving higher prices for their crops and cheaper inputs.

    • @astonm1990
      @astonm1990 5 років тому +2

      @@duckpuddles Higher prices? There are now tarrifs between EU countries so how do they get higher prices?

    • @nigelwilliams8191
      @nigelwilliams8191 5 років тому

      @@astonm1990 We get short changed by exchange rates and haulage.

    • @JeroenJA
      @JeroenJA 5 років тому

      as I thought UK imports a LOT of it's food from the Netherlands, an argicultural video should include as well EU spending on it, as Uk depence on import foods..
      and of course, currect EU countries dependence on UK as a market to sell it's food to..

    • @JeroenJA
      @JeroenJA 5 років тому

      @@duckpuddles : for that critic, UK can now stay, under just the threat of UK budget drop, good steps now were made to severely further lessen EU spending on agriculture.
      I'm quity happy with that to, ALL western european countries , for Belgium, the nett contribution is 3 billion euros... seen in comparison to population we pay net a lot more then UK does ... But Belgium was littler and less capable to negotiate a discount like that.. although Belgium succesfully lobbied to lessen the importance of argicultural spending in the EU budget in the nineties.

  • @primotef8863
    @primotef8863 5 років тому +25

    UK and EU don't TECHNICALLY need eachother, but separating would be less of a loss for the EU. Both parties still lose quite a bit, though.

    • @biker3762
      @biker3762 5 років тому

      yh EU stil has another 27 or how many countries to deal with yes they will loose money a big amount but still run smooth but the uk could loose their whole economy is it worth taking this risk if they can't even leave in 2 years what will they do when they're out with no plans and crazy politicians they better start thinking or they will be on a third world economy margin

  • @MervynPartin
    @MervynPartin 4 роки тому +103

    Of course the EU needs the UK- There are still one or two industries left here to be transferred to Europe

    • @Isochest
      @Isochest 4 роки тому +11

      That is how they see us

    • @shaunpmarshall
      @shaunpmarshall 4 роки тому +15

      The EU is done if we stop being a cash cow

    • @Isochest
      @Isochest 4 роки тому +5

      @@shaunpmarshall So be it.

    • @shaunpmarshall
      @shaunpmarshall 4 роки тому +8

      @@Isochest ..just read an article about labour voting students ..if I see that blue EU dictatorship flag one more time I will go mad

    • @tomdoyle6030
      @tomdoyle6030 4 роки тому +11

      Yup .. sad thing is they were all moved with EU grants and funding so we basically paid to take our own jobs away

  • @fredmidtgaard5487
    @fredmidtgaard5487 4 роки тому +2

    I am pretty sure that the UK needs Europe more than we need them. It can be sorted out with goodwill on both sides. The worst is the poisonous atmosphere against Europe that many foreigners report on in the UK. Many scientists are leaving the UK for Europe now and scholarships for European students studying in UK institutions will no longer be given after this year.

  • @RunawayNomad17
    @RunawayNomad17 Рік тому +5

    well 4 years on and it is clear who needs who more 😉

  • @maelleamand
    @maelleamand 5 років тому +25

    Thanks a lot for your hard work and clear explanations !

    • @shaunclark425
      @shaunclark425 4 роки тому +2

      NO - BRITS DONT WANT TO HAVE MILLION MORE POORING IN FROM THE MIDDLE EAST AND AFRICA LIKE THE REST OF EUROPE.. THE EU SUPPORTS THIS OPEN BORDER TREASON THAT HAS BROUGHT IN MASS RAPES AND CHILD MOLESTATIONS; NUMEROUS MURDERS, ACID ATTACKS AND TERRORISM; NO GO AREAS .. AND THE UMPTEEN MILLIONS NEED TO BE HOUSED AND LOOKED AFTER (AND THEY ARE PUT INFRONT OF OUR OWN PEOPLE).. S ODONT RY AND DISTRACT PEOPLE WITH MINOR ISSUES SO YOU CAN SUPPOR THE DOWNFALL OF THE WEST....SO YES BREXIT IS A GOOD IDEA..FOR MORE RELIABLE INFORON WHAT IS REALY GOING ON
      SEE LIKE LAUREN SOUTHERN(SEE HER DOCUMENTARY 'BORDERLESS'),RED ICE TV, AND PAUL JOSEPH WATSON..

  • @flexwinggpipi
    @flexwinggpipi 5 років тому +51

    Ultimately, Brexit isnt all about the money

    • @anurgaprasad123
      @anurgaprasad123 5 років тому +18

      "Damn the economy will be worse off and Britain will be losing money, time to post 'Brexit isnt all about the money' comment" - You

    • @lifeyoushouldtryit
      @lifeyoushouldtryit 5 років тому +14

      @@anurgaprasad123 the remainer projection that everything anyone says is damage control and manipulation is laughable, try having principals and believing in something more than money, like sovereignty.

    • @Spedley_2142
      @Spedley_2142 5 років тому

      I think it is - all that money stored in the Cayman Islands.

    • @tomlaptain646
      @tomlaptain646 5 років тому +3

      @@lifeyoushouldtryit And that's how the Nazi's happened.

    • @spaceowl5957
      @spaceowl5957 5 років тому +6

      Tom Laptain I agree with you and the guy you responded to.
      I think it really isn't about money and the economy for many people - it's about tribalism.
      ...Which is how the nazis happened

  • @abdoujarapov
    @abdoujarapov 4 роки тому +11

    It's nice to see balanced, intelligent comment for a change.

    • @ruthbashford3176
      @ruthbashford3176 4 роки тому +1

      in your opinion

    • @henriquefreitas9255
      @henriquefreitas9255 4 роки тому +2

      I think he didnt mention the most important point. The EU needs to keep the UK so they won't fall apart as other countries follow suit. And they need a hard bad deal brexit as an example for other countries.

    • @abdoujarapov
      @abdoujarapov 4 роки тому

      @@ruthbashford3176 I only have my opinion. Department of the obvious. I'm happy for you to point out the errors.

    • @abdoujarapov
      @abdoujarapov 4 роки тому +1

      @@henriquefreitas9255 OK. He missed other things too. I agree with your point.

    • @paulritchie5868
      @paulritchie5868 4 роки тому

      The EU is and was an brilliant idea,but,over populated by corrupt politicians who are just filling their own pockets,we need less government and less politicians ,only then will it get better,if your a small country the EU is for you,if your a big country,you pay for the rest.

  • @kasper7203
    @kasper7203 3 роки тому +1

    1 year later.. The answer is a resounding "NO!".. The UK has consistently failed to adhere to deadlines and promises. The uncertainty and delays now almost costs the EU more than a simple no deal Brexit would have. Enough is enough. Cut off Britain..

  • @blameyourself4489
    @blameyourself4489 5 років тому +238

    I didn't quite get all those facts TLDR News. Could you talk feelings with me instead?

    • @danielwebb8402
      @danielwebb8402 5 років тому +16

      Love it!

    • @mathiasgaming4586
      @mathiasgaming4586 5 років тому +8

      ❤️

    • @freudsigmund72
      @freudsigmund72 5 років тому +17

      Who wants to talk about feelings and facts when you only have to believe in Brexit?

    • @Ghost_PM11
      @Ghost_PM11 5 років тому +13

      @@freudsigmund72 They are not believing hard enough.

    • @sandybrown3879
      @sandybrown3879 5 років тому +1

      We believe because we were promised--Brexit means Brexit

  • @alignmentsixtrading4200
    @alignmentsixtrading4200 5 років тому +156

    Soooo the areas that voted Brexit the most are the areas that will get the massive job losses and negative impact then

    • @SaturnusDK
      @SaturnusDK 5 років тому +62

      Basically yes. These are also generally the poorest areas of the UK, and in fact some of the poorest areas in all of Europe, and have gotten large regional support from the EU that will now disappear. So for these areas there will be a double whammy effect.

    • @CloudyDaze
      @CloudyDaze 5 років тому +38

      So basically the exact same same demographic that brought Donald Trump into office in America.
      Greaaaaat.

    • @jungoogie
      @jungoogie 5 років тому +20

      @@CloudyDaze The difference is we in America can vote Trump out in 2 years while people in the UK are stuck with this cluster dump for many years to come. Thankfully we got the house back so we have a check on our baby and chief until we can get a competent president again.

    • @tomgjgj
      @tomgjgj 5 років тому +7

      @@jungoogie I guess ... they could always... have another referendum?
      God, referendums are dumb.

    • @CloudyDaze
      @CloudyDaze 5 років тому +2

      Tom J I don't think they have the time to. You need a 10 week minimum to announce it and they only have 17 or so weeks before the forced hard brexit

  • @pr4442
    @pr4442 4 роки тому +1

    Very solid analysis and I agree with your conclusions.

  • @alanreid9385
    @alanreid9385 4 роки тому +13

    Unionists say that
    independence would be really devastating for Scotland, I don't think so -
    remember back to 2014 and how often did we comments from Better Together
    expressing the sentiment of Scotland being too wee, too poor, too stupid to
    cope with independence.
    Now take a look at these comments which were made in
    the context of Brexit:
    Boris Johnson - "natural desire for
    self-government"
    Chris Grayling: "We don't currently have the full
    levers to make decisions in the interests of this country"
    Ian Duncan Smith: "I'm so tired of hearing that
    we're too little, too inconsequential."
    Michael Gove: "Are we really too small, too weak,
    and too powerless to make a success of self-rule?"
    Michael Gove: " I believe that the decisions
    which govern all our lives, the laws we must all obey and the taxes we must all
    pay should be decided by people we choose and who we can throw out if we want
    change."
    And then you can see how they apply equally to the
    people of Scotland.

    • @brovahkiin4302
      @brovahkiin4302 4 роки тому +3

      Well, many people, like me, think a united europe in general is stronger and better. After all, a big point of the Scotland debate was, that scottland would also exit the EU, leaving it with neither the Euro, not the pound.
      People like me also think brexit is absolute bs and anyone who wants it is an absolute moron or profiteering from the disaster.

    • @kevinhorgan2770
      @kevinhorgan2770 4 роки тому

      Alan reid
      I agree I believe that a vote to rid Scotland from U.K. is a great idea.
      Good luck Scotland .

    • @alanreid4774
      @alanreid4774 4 роки тому

      kevin horgan you English natZ could help by growing a spine and voting for English independence!

    • @alanreid9385
      @alanreid9385 4 роки тому

      @@kevinhorgan2770 we don't need luck, we just need rid of england.

    • @allymcmoist1484
      @allymcmoist1484 4 роки тому

      The problem with your argument is that Scotland would be ruled by people who we can't ever prosecute or vote out, if the SNP get their way. They want us ruled from Brussels.

  • @Tayet4Buri
    @Tayet4Buri 5 років тому +39

    I'm German and while I agree with you generally, the debates in Germany concerning the car industry oppose your standpoint. Some people threw around job-loss numbers of around 18000, but the car industry is heavyly automated already and constantly expanding into emerging markets like India and other parts of Asia. There were plans in place to move for example space intensive warehouses to cheaper countries, closer to those emerging markets loooong before Brexit. Therefore, the common opinion is that Brexit will not cause that big of a change for us.

    • @alanwalters5304
      @alanwalters5304 5 років тому +1

      see yeh lar uk can start manurfacturing asoon as car industries do one

    • @666mrdoctor
      @666mrdoctor 5 років тому +4

      Great to know. Go Europe go 🇪🇺🇪🇺🇪🇺🇪🇺🇪🇺🇪🇺

    • @mrdcaiken
      @mrdcaiken 4 роки тому

      @@alanwalters5304 why, because everyone's wages have gone down ?

  • @astrolonim2032
    @astrolonim2032 5 років тому +69

    YES! I really want a video about the EU’s farming policy. It confuses the shit out of me.

    • @smashing-3291
      @smashing-3291 5 років тому +17

      @bobbi brown "No vid is needed
      The EU bureaucrats are free of accountability and are corrupt."
      Wow very informative, we don't need to learn anything anymore. Thanks random stranger on the internet with infinite wisdom on these matters.

    • @achandler6583
      @achandler6583 5 років тому

      It's meant to

    • @Lillith.
      @Lillith. 5 років тому

      From what I can tell it's summed up with work inefficient, get money. Otherwise France wouldn't be the biggest recipient.

  • @x19kittyboo
    @x19kittyboo 4 роки тому +11

    Well this aged well!😂😂😂

    • @earthone4939
      @earthone4939 3 роки тому

      Why does literally everyone say this? I have seen this comment at least 4 times.

    • @x19kittyboo
      @x19kittyboo 3 роки тому

      If you can't work that out, maybe you should avoid commenting.🤦‍♂️

  • @simongibbs2986
    @simongibbs2986 4 роки тому

    Great video. Very interesting.

  • @tyomkolton
    @tyomkolton 5 років тому +83

    So in the end of the video you said “it seems UK needs EU slightly more than they need UK”. And then in just 2 sentences you repeat the sentence but instead of “slightly” you use “far more”. When did these words become synonymous?

    • @asdfghyter
      @asdfghyter 5 років тому +16

      Since UK, sarcasm and understatements.

    • @John-Kuro
      @John-Kuro 5 років тому +10

      No bias here move along citizen.

    • @quandary1382
      @quandary1382 4 роки тому +14

      It's almost like some bias crept in....but surely not, they claim to be impartial and just give facts.

    • @roro-mm7cc
      @roro-mm7cc 4 роки тому +1

      clearly sarcasm. you must not be british if unable to detect.

    • @lankhmarowner8105
      @lankhmarowner8105 4 роки тому +1

      Yes, you detected one of the many areas of bias in this video. Remember, while they are pretending to make a "fact checking" video, the video is created by anti-Brexiteers so there is little hope of impartiality here.

  • @QazwerDave
    @QazwerDave 5 років тому +300

    The ">" symbol used wrong. Should be "

    • @devtekve1396
      @devtekve1396 5 років тому +11

      I though I was becoming crazy

    • @thagor8590
      @thagor8590 5 років тому +28

      Difficult to take this video seriously after that.

    • @wimmerlu
      @wimmerlu 5 років тому +11

      this actually made me browse the comments xD
      so is this fake news?

    • @EyesOfGehenna
      @EyesOfGehenna 5 років тому +22

      I see especially more and more Brits and Americans make this mistake recently. If that's how they treat their math, no wonder they thought a Brexit would be positive for them :P

    • @ihato8535
      @ihato8535 5 років тому +5

      This reminds me of that one science channel that mistakenly put O2H as the water molecule.

  • @troywright359
    @troywright359 4 роки тому +31

    Didn't cover immigration or legal supercession.
    there are three issues here, finance, immigration and legaal.
    You covered 1 of the three. can you please cover the other 2?

    • @Goldigga5
      @Goldigga5 4 роки тому +25

      Britain had the right to deport EU migrants who don't find work within 3 months. Immigration is a scapegoat and was never an issue if the government actually did use those EU laws to their advantage.

  • @pelvist
    @pelvist 4 роки тому +8

    They do, in more ways than you think. Right now they are hoping and willing Britains exit from the EU to be as damaging as possible for Britain. Think of it like this: If Britain flourishes after leaving the EU then other EU countries will have the confidence to follow. The EU is fragile and has been since the recession and problems with Greece. It is in their best interest for Britain to fail and they will try to make that so. No deal we could ever get from the EU will be good for a Britain outside of the EU.
    If you voted remain, I hope the behavior of the EU bureaucrats and our very own government over the past three years has shown you the light, or at the very least help you understand why half the country voted to leave in the first place.

    • @MersyyLife
      @MersyyLife 4 роки тому +1

      That was the sentiment a few months back, it's considerably different now, Junker has even said he wants to avoid a no deal which would smear his legacy or something

  • @TheDarkever
    @TheDarkever 5 років тому +30

    I'd be VERY INTERESTED in a deep economic analysis of the new interactions after a No Deal Brexit. I'm a sucker for this large-scale stuff ;)

    • @alexc664
      @alexc664 5 років тому +2

      Yes I'd like to see how UK deals with having to buy at "store" price instead of "supplier" after they lose all the deals EU has with the rest of the world.

    • @dumbdumber7203
      @dumbdumber7203 5 років тому +2

      The UK will do just fine and so will the EU.

    • @nerfedgod
      @nerfedgod 5 років тому +1

      @bobbi brown You really think the UK is something, don't you? Let me rephrase that for you:
      "Brexit does not mean that Brits will not BEG for fair trade deals."

    • @jessepylvalainen2288
      @jessepylvalainen2288 5 років тому +3

      As an international investor, I would say that the most severe threat to the UK economy really lies in the Financial sector.
      You might find this odd, because banks do not necessarily play a major role in peoples everyday life, well they do but I don’t think you really think about banks when your swinging your Visa or MasterCard. However when it comes to business and investments, banks practically speaking finance just about all of it.
      Now investments bring jobs as everyone knows, but perhaps more importantly they boost the productivity of given industry which again leads to higher wage growth and better quality of living (not for everyone equally but generally speaking).
      Now, obviously if the access to the EU single market is being restricted then a company that might have EU operations in the UK is forced to ask a question. Is there a better way to continue my business? Car manufacturers are great example of this and thats why so many are already leaving. Not only is there some clouds in the near term future for the sector but also their UK operations were in large part for servicing their EU customers (Exports).
      Anyway back to finance. London is by far the financial center and thats what has allowed a lot of government bond issues throughout the EU to take place in the UK. This brings a ton of indirect income and wealth to the UK and also secures the pounds position as one of the most respected currency in the world.
      Now what if the EU truly would like to play hard ball and started talking about “un fair tax practices in the UK territory”? Cayman Islands, Virgin Islands come to mind right off the bat.
      Now imagine if for example the EU would use this as an excuse to force higher tariffs just like in case of anti-dumping duties on Chinese Steel products. Granted it would be most embarrassing for EU itself as well but it’s a possible scenario.

    • @dcarbs2979
      @dcarbs2979 4 роки тому

      @@jessepylvalainen2288 Thanks for your perspective. As someone who has experience in finance myself and seriously looked into becoming a City investment banker with research into hedge funds too, the UK is culturally and regulatorially different to Europe and the EU in a way that will still allow the UK to thrive with or without the EU. This includes primarily the free market regulation to create ever more innovative investment products that is different to Europe and in particular Germany even as a member of the EU. The UK market is even more flexible and free than the US market too. This will continue to attract trade if we leave. Most of the European banks trade in and from London and assuming that loose regulation and entrepreneurial culture is maintained, will continue to do so. And that is a factor that is independent of leaving or not, which I believe has a bigger influence over The City than the EU. The biggest threat the UK finance sector and economy in general 15 years either side of 2019 is and was the 2008 crash. Caused by over ambitious risks that didn't come to fruition from a very small and specific part of the Finance sector. So much, that most people in finance didn't know about themselves until the proverbial hit the fan. It was built on fiat money, not based on any tangible or valuable assets. Had a last minute RBS deal not been achieved, it would cause money to freeze, unable to be moved to and from businesses, and consequently individuals. It's like the blood of the economy. If it can't move to pay for goods and services, the economy as we know is dead and soon people to follow as food and fuel etc dries up. Leaving the EU, even in the worst case scenario will allow money, food and goods to move and have non-zero value. It can't compete with the calamity that was averted in 2008!

  • @sarahcardosodesousa8507
    @sarahcardosodesousa8507 5 років тому +4

    Thank you for your videos. I always watch them to understand better the Brexit and also to train my listening skills. They best!

  • @leotran9259
    @leotran9259 4 роки тому +7

    How the tides have turned recently

    • @Doss3332
      @Doss3332 4 роки тому +3

      How so?

    • @sorcererberoll4641
      @sorcererberoll4641 4 роки тому

      Don't take me seriously the eu couldn’t decide on a budget after the uk left

  • @vincentmckenna1755
    @vincentmckenna1755 3 роки тому +2

    Germany not happy,with a 42% increase in eu payments

  • @nathanav1634
    @nathanav1634 5 років тому +31

    My Nan moved to Spain in the 90s and lived there as a UK ex pat for 20 years enjoying everything Spain had to offer... Yet she voted Brexit... I just can't reconcile with such stupidity. How is it the older generation are so misinformed about the benefits of the EU?

    • @tralfamadorian5270
      @tralfamadorian5270 5 років тому +2

      Yea, and considering the great age gap in support versus opposition to the eu and the slim margin of the result, how would the referendum turned out had it been held as little as two or three years later.

    • @RawReadyGaming121
      @RawReadyGaming121 5 років тому +9

      The older generation know a lot more about the EU than us younger generation. They were around when all the so called experts were telling them how dreadfull not being part of the Euro would be to the UK economy. Look how that turned out. My parents live in Spain too, and have worked with EU companies and have experienced it all first hand, and voted to Leave. Of course the EU has its benefits, but there are a lot of problems that are building up and eventually I believe the EU will crumble. We certainly won't be the last country to leave, and in us leaving, it provides us a with a great opportunity to trade globally with far faster growing economies, rather than being part of the EU where we have to put up external trade tariffs.

    • @Luca-sz5uy
      @Luca-sz5uy 5 років тому +5

      @@RawReadyGaming121 I would be happy to see a No Deal "against" the UK. As a German who is annoyed by the EU's inefficieny (which is largely to its small actual power over its members) I think it would really help to have a disruptive event that enables reforms and more focus on the future. Also I'd really like to have a enemy the Europeans can oppose together. We could see in Britain that a few propaganda slogans really convince the idiots of anything (I only say bus) and we Europeans should use that to our benefit.

    • @maltager5106
      @maltager5106 5 років тому +3

      The point isn't that the EU hasn't any benefits, it is whether the benefits outweigh the costs. Of course, if you want to live in Spain, and you can do so, why not? But when you want to weigh the benefits and costs of the European Union, you cannot just say "I can live in Spain!" and that's all. You have to also counter balance the costs which may be more than the benefit of living in Spain.
      I am not saying that the costs outweigh the benefits, just that you cannot dismiss her line of thinking just because she enjoyed the benefits while they were available.

  • @ellinmara5997
    @ellinmara5997 4 роки тому +50

    I gotta say this: From the bottom of my heart, THANK YOU, Finland! You guys are beyond awesome.

    • @Doss3332
      @Doss3332 4 роки тому

      🙃

    • @maurituomisto8007
      @maurituomisto8007 3 роки тому +1

      You're wellcome, we are also paying Italys budget deficit. 😖

    • @suserman7775
      @suserman7775 2 роки тому +1

      @@maurituomisto8007 Fexit? Or should we just call it Finish !?

    • @DoubleAAce
      @DoubleAAce 2 роки тому

      my guy finland has a population of 5 mil while UK is 65 mil do u really think finland can do much

    • @ulfosterberg1979
      @ulfosterberg1979 Рік тому +1

      @@DoubleAAce As for security Finland has a bigger and more able army than uk.

  • @pinchermartyn3959
    @pinchermartyn3959 4 роки тому +17

    Can you do a video on the the EU Common Fisheries Policy and how fish stocks have been devastated?

    • @kneedeacon2309
      @kneedeacon2309 3 роки тому +2

      PincherMartyn - all the countries fish in their own waters, if you want more fish, you buy from one another, so what is the problem

  • @boundertube
    @boundertube 4 роки тому +1

    Was I really being forced to watch a 4min unskippable advert about glue!?!?

  • @VolkerHett
    @VolkerHett 5 років тому +53

    Yes please, make a video about what is actually produced in the UK.

    • @JacobPlat
      @JacobPlat 5 років тому +17

      that's gonna be a short video!

    • @gentlemanvontweed7147
      @gentlemanvontweed7147 5 років тому +1

      @@JacobPlat Come on mate, I'll miss your pubs and craft breweries.

    • @paulmackilligin1754
      @paulmackilligin1754 5 років тому +5

      Well, that's kind of the point. A single car, for example, will be made in the UK, and Germany, and Spain, and Poland, etc. etc. The supply chains are so tightly integrated these days that you can't say where a car is made, except of course to say it is made in the EU/EEA. Brexit (well, actually leaving the Single Market and Customs Union ) will break that chain. In my own town, BMW have already announced that it will stop production of the Mini for the entire month of April 2019, as they don't know whether the supply chain will still be in place immediately after Brexit happens on 30th March 2019.
      They normally stop production for maintenance, etc. for a period over the summer, so they have just decided to bring that stoppage forward to April because of uncertainty over the supply chain. But it shows how tightly integrated production is these days. The obvious question is, "why don't they just stock pile a month's worth of parts to use in April?" It seems they just can't do that. I guess they don't have the facilities for doing that, and it would be too expensive for them to build those facilities. Ultimately, if we can't retain frictionless movement of goods between the UK and the rest of the EU then car manufacturers like VW will have no choice but to move production from the UK to elsewhere within the EU.

    • @czarzenana5125
      @czarzenana5125 5 років тому +3

      I second that, because the only thing I could come up with is whisky and corned beef.

    • @czarzenana5125
      @czarzenana5125 5 років тому +1

      @@gentlemanvontweed7147
      Pubs close before midnight in the UK and the stuff they pour into glasses we use for our car engines.

  • @ericbashir7275
    @ericbashir7275 5 років тому +9

    When I watch your videos, I learn a lot not just on Global politics, but also on video animation ideas and storytelling. You guys are the best. Can you do a video on education opportunities in the UK for international students? Particularly graduate students. Thanks. This video and the enter e-Estonia video are my favourites so far! Much love, guys.

  • @JoshuaDHarvey
    @JoshuaDHarvey 3 роки тому

    Great video thank you

  • @woutervanwijk4369
    @woutervanwijk4369 4 роки тому +2

    You forget to mention that one of the most important reasons for the Union's hard line is to prevent other countries to follow the UK.

  •  5 років тому +14

    The figures for the english economy are artificially inflated by the habit of companies distributing goods from england to Ireland. That's over now we'll have our own distributors or go to France or the Nederlands instead. The free trade agreement with Japan and NZ is real handy because they drive on the same side as the english. So the Germans just have to send those cars east instead of west.

    • @NLTops
      @NLTops 5 років тому +2

      The only reason Ireland isn't unified today is because of Ye Olde English method of conquest. I'm not trying to give rise to a new IRA but honestly if they feel so English they should feck back off to their own island. As a Dutchman I say, we would gladly assist you with any distribution issues by means of Rotterdam port. The largest port in Europe but I'm sure we can make it bigger.

    •  5 років тому +1

      @@NLTops The english contamination will be largely cured by brexit. It'll be great finally getting rid of that disgusting cancer.

    • @tompatrikc
      @tompatrikc 5 років тому

      @@NLTops They don't feel English? Nor do the Welsh or Scottish...

  • @revitplumber
    @revitplumber 5 років тому +67

    Is there any validity to the argument “The EU needs Great Britain to suffer from Brexit to prevent other countries from leaving the EU”?

    • @alejandroagudosanchez5183
      @alejandroagudosanchez5183 5 років тому +18

      Will be valid if the UK chooses to hard Brexit "no deal".

    • @jstitus916
      @jstitus916 5 років тому +13

      Sounds like something a 16 year old girl who was stood up for prom would say personally.

    • @revitplumber
      @revitplumber 5 років тому +10

      jstitus916 The statement is no less valid even if it resembles an adolescent mindset.

    • @spaceowl5957
      @spaceowl5957 5 років тому +15

      They're definitely getting a worse deal than the one they have now. The EU is not gonna reward them for leaving...

    • @revitplumber
      @revitplumber 5 років тому +2

      In the short term it will be worse than the status quo. I never implied otherwise. It might also be worse in the long term too, but we won’t know that until much later.
      Secondly, my question did not imply that they should be rewarded for leaving. It specifically asked if the EU is intentionally making the break up worse than it need be in order to deter other countries from leaving the EU. It’s a sentiment I’ve heard from people like Ian Bremer and other globalization supporters. I wanted to know if there was any support for his view, but thanks for your contribution to the conversation.

  • @flybobbie1449
    @flybobbie1449 4 роки тому +4

    Up to now haven't we been obliged to trade with the EU because they restrict who we can independently trade with. If we can trade more with other countries, then there will be less reliance on trading with the EU.

    • @fba90130
      @fba90130 4 роки тому +3

      Just because you CAN trade doesn't mean that the trade is available or that the market is open. Trades are done only if both parties are willing. Trades done at cannon point is no longer a thing.

    • @flybobbie1449
      @flybobbie1449 4 роки тому

      @@fba90130 So long as there is free trade, if you have something people want they will buy it.
      How often have i seen some Russian video and there is a new JCB digger in it. JCB export all over the world.

    • @fba90130
      @fba90130 4 роки тому +2

      @@flybobbie1449 IF you have something people will want to buy. Also it isn't that simple unless you're the only source of the thing people want. The country you want to trade with may not be willing to trade with you at the terms you want. So nothing is guaranteed just because you can now legally trade with a country.
      If I divorce my wife I can legally marry a supermodel. That doesn't mean I will marry a supermodel.

    • @flybobbie1449
      @flybobbie1449 4 роки тому

      @@fba90130 Well that is up to individual countries to decide. Russia might want F35 fighters, doesn't mean the US has to sell them. You can walk into a shop, the keeper as the right to refuse a sale.

    • @fba90130
      @fba90130 4 роки тому +2

      @@flybobbie1449 Exactly. I don't know where people get the confidence that they WILL be able to make up the loss in trade with the EU with some other yet unknown and unspecified countries. There must be a reason why the UK wanted into EU before. One must question whether the trade outside the EU is really that lucrative.

  • @martinrogers2719
    @martinrogers2719 4 роки тому +2

    Better question does UK need EU?? the answer is no of course

    • @kneedeacon2309
      @kneedeacon2309 3 роки тому

      Martin Rogers - if uk needs the eu , why are we desperate to get out- we must be stupid

    • @walterrudich2175
      @walterrudich2175 3 роки тому +1

      @@kneedeacon2309 Yes - you are.

  • @Marcus_Aurelius_1978
    @Marcus_Aurelius_1978 5 років тому +26

    I am a german citizen and I don't think it's a question of who needs whom more. Of course it is sad to see that, a long-time friend and ally, wants to leave the EU community just to save some Million pounds. We, all of Europe - England included - should keep together and form an even stronger alliance to withstand the troubles that may or may not lie ahead of us.I want England to stay in the EU - not for economic or sentimental reasons - but because it is the right thing to do! We need a stronger Europe - now more than ever - to make this world a happier place again.

    • @Marcus_Aurelius_1978
      @Marcus_Aurelius_1978 5 років тому +1

      EU and UK

    • @Marcus_Aurelius_1978
      @Marcus_Aurelius_1978 5 років тому +10

      Hmm I think it is sad that you see it that way. Don't you think people change after such a long period of time? Especially not every german citizen has the same mindset as those fools back in the day. I would say an overwhelming majority wouldn't agree with that idology. I won't dispute of what has happend in the past, was an absoloute nightmare. But don't you think to be stuck in the past and make references to it in the present is a little selfdestrucitve!? Of course we must teach in schools all over Europe how bad it was but at the same time we must lecture how to prevent that something like it could never - ever - happen again!

    • @Marcus_Aurelius_1978
      @Marcus_Aurelius_1978 5 років тому +9

      Well I am sorry to hear that your dad and your grandpa had to endure so much pain. But these people who startet WW1/WW2 they have NOTHING in common with the majority of people who live now in Germany. Sure there are some bad ones inbetween but you can go to almost every country on this planet where there are really bad people hiding in the shadows just to revolt against their politicians.I think it is unfair to load all the responsibility on our shoulders when we haven't done anything wrong. But just because we were born as a german citizens. Don't you think that's a little hypocritical!? Speaking of Common Wealth!? Do you want to live in times like Knights and Kings and Queens? That would define someone who is stuck in time and wouldn't want any change at all...

    • @Marcus_Aurelius_1978
      @Marcus_Aurelius_1978 5 років тому +5

      All right if that's the way you want it... then there's nothing more what I can do! I think it is sad because ... ugh you know what!? Just forget about it! Have a nice life!

    • @tylerjam1980
      @tylerjam1980 5 років тому +4

      It’s nothing to do with saving Money. That’s the biggest myth. We know that short term we will be worse off. Long term we are resourceful and I’m sure we can pick the economy up. We voted out to control our borders. Note I did not say close our borders so don’t tar me with the racist brush. We need immigration. But we need the right kind of immigration. We also need to make our own laws and rules. Those that will benefit those under the rule of our sovereign state. The EU has become something that was never agreed. I believe that the EU beast is intentional and that it is the means towards a one world government under the premise of “good”. The world is on the brink of enslavement and we wander blindly and willingly into it for the sake of convenience and possessions. This Brexit is a hint of the woke awareness but this war is by no means won. India is on the route to cashless society. Won’t be long until we are on the system. No freedoms. Fully traceable. Fully controllable.

  • @Qddens
    @Qddens 5 років тому +23

    Please change the greater sign, it's the wrong way around and is such a distraction (~2:35)

    • @MrJonezy541
      @MrJonezy541 5 років тому

      Nah I'd say it's the right way around

  • @kolinsin23
    @kolinsin23 4 роки тому +1

    Awesome video, excellent points on both sides backed with tangible data. When will you take over the houses of parliament?

  • @chrisangus7078
    @chrisangus7078 3 роки тому

    A good clear informitive report thank you

  • @moumous87
    @moumous87 5 років тому +215

    2:32 the inequality sign is wrong: should be UK < EU

  • @JSTONE9352
    @JSTONE9352 4 роки тому +55

    As an American and an outside observer I find this all interesting and more complex than I realized before.

    • @maxnoerenberg6370
      @maxnoerenberg6370 4 роки тому

      same here, especially imagining what the US trade deal with the EU and the UK will look like!

    • @kistosable
      @kistosable 4 роки тому +4

      Will be interesting, of course US will support UK, but what about Australia (important military Spanish client) or what about India an important Russian trader?? Maybe the common wealth isn't that big of a deal anymore

    • @maxnoerenberg6370
      @maxnoerenberg6370 4 роки тому +1

      @@kistosable Germany is also a major trading partner with Australia and Japan ( prob China as well ) ...the famous Berlin streetcars ( trams ) have been spotted in Melbourne....loved that sight ha ha

    • @benjaminbabik8970
      @benjaminbabik8970 4 роки тому +3

      It has always been this complicated. It is sad that some people were forced to go to vote without knowing all of this.

    • @paulh1679
      @paulh1679 4 роки тому +2

      @@maxnoerenberg6370 If trump is in power it will only work as long as we don't upset him!

  • @joshuaphilips-kerrigan3220
    @joshuaphilips-kerrigan3220 4 роки тому +7

    The EU is scared Brexit will work, if Britain does better out of the EU it could cause other countries to leave if it is successful

  • @gibmattson1217
    @gibmattson1217 4 роки тому

    GOOD VID. THANKS.

  • @dookdawg214
    @dookdawg214 5 років тому +137

    You guys brushed over some very important details. You briefly pointed out that EU exports to UK are only about 16% compared to 44% from UK to EU. But when you put that into % of GDP terms, it's even more staggering (I don't remember the exact numbers, but it's something like a 3% hit for the EU vs. a 16% hit for the UK). However, where the EU loses out on trade tarifs and disruption, they gain big on relocation of manufacturers and, above all, financial-service firms. That means new jobs and tax revenues for Europe and net job losses for the UK. In contrast, the UK has very little to gain from relocations. Another point you barely brought up is that, in the case of a no-deal Brexit, the UK loses access to ALL the FTAs they're in through the EU, like with South Korea, Mexico and Canada (and soon Japan and Singapore). All in all, a no-deal Brexit will feel like a broken finger for the EU. For the UK it will feel like a violent car accident. In a game of chicken, the UK loses bigly. And I really hope there's a no-deal Brexit, because I believe it would provide the case study that the EU really needs.

    • @SaturnusDK
      @SaturnusDK 5 років тому +19

      There are days when I share your cynical view but mostly I try to stay objective and keep in mind that both parties lose. It's better to avoid loss if it can be prevented at all.

    • @kienng4510
      @kienng4510 5 років тому +14

      You have to see the big picture: in 50 years the UK will be as wealthy as never before! You just have to throw this and the next generation under the bus. Plus, you can go around and brag about how independent and proud you are as a brit.

    • @dookdawg214
      @dookdawg214 5 років тому +25

      @@kienng4510 The UK need look no further than ex-colonial powers like Spain and Portugal. Christ, Portugal used to rule half the west -- now it's a country of cleaning ladies. Aside from speaking English -- and a financial infrstructure that can be easily replaced over time, and probably will -- the UK doesn't have much of anything the world wants or needs. The coutnry is in its final death throes.

    • @astonm1990
      @astonm1990 5 років тому +12

      @@dookdawg214 The funny things is that the main EU language is English, not German or French. Many EU regulation is directly implemented from Uk regulation. Why on earth would they UK give up all this influence?

    • @Commentator541
      @Commentator541 5 років тому +17

      @@astonm1990 Basically some UK politicians took bribe from Russia. Also, UK wanted to be given the lead of EU, but French and German folk said this is a threesome, so the UK decided to go jerk off on their own.

  • @DominicTheG
    @DominicTheG 5 років тому +9

    TLDR News, I think it would be a very good idea to post your sources in the video description for people that want to double check everything.

    • @PaulAlexander-tokyomagic
      @PaulAlexander-tokyomagic 5 років тому

      They did. Right. At. The. Beginning.

    • @DominicTheG
      @DominicTheG 5 років тому

      @@PaulAlexander-tokyomagic Sorry, but what do you mean?

    • @HendraYunan
      @HendraYunan 5 років тому

      @@DominicTheG They mentioned the sources already. Not very detailed, but it was indeed already mentioned.

  • @MassiveLib
    @MassiveLib 4 роки тому +9

    Why does the EU need a national anthem, a court, a bank, flag and army....

    • @thephilosopherofculture4559
      @thephilosopherofculture4559 4 роки тому +3

      To get a sense of unity into the Europeans, and to make it efficient and stronger. The EU is an economic giant, a political dwarf and a military worm. The English army is just part of that worm, i.e. even less significant. This is all highly inefficient and has almost zero effectiveness this made the EU the laughing stock of the world, that is, until King Donald the First came along, now Europe is #2.

    • @zannierzan9634
      @zannierzan9634 4 роки тому +4

      @@thephilosopherofculture4559 How is EU "the laughing stock of the world"? Third world countries trying to export into Europe are met with immense difficulty to cope with EU regulations, and EU's leverage on international trade deals is huge. If it had been a bilateral agreement between such countries and say, Romania, lower quality products would have found its way into Europe at much heftier price.

    • @ufologyexplored4634
      @ufologyexplored4634 4 роки тому

      You need all these in place before a painless takeover of all the EU nation countries ,the silent assassin.

    • @Karen1963Yorks
      @Karen1963Yorks 4 роки тому

      @@thephilosopherofculture4559 The English army?

    • @benjaminwade7489
      @benjaminwade7489 4 роки тому +1

      @@thephilosopherofculture4559 When was the EU ever known as the laughing stock of the world?

  • @TheBigk1964
    @TheBigk1964 3 роки тому +1

    A manufacturing breakdown would be interesting!

  • @hansw15
    @hansw15 5 років тому +8

    I actually would like to see more investigation into how much of the UK - EU trade is actually UK - EU - Non EU trade, I believe it could be interesting.
    I also wonder about the claims that were made that UK trade would benefit from leaving the Single Market on the basis that the EU limited the options for UK importers of agricultural resources. One example at the time was that UK sugar production was prevented from importing sugar canes from 3rd world countries and were forced to import more expensive and less effective sugar beets. And I think it would make for an interesting topic, to look into how many of the claims about UK trade being limited by the EU is true or not.

  • @niaseer1938
    @niaseer1938 4 роки тому +6

    Could I get a list of your citations please? c:

  • @222ferike
    @222ferike 4 роки тому

    Well explained video - I personally agree with the fact that only time and God will be able to say whether this whole arguing was or not for the better for both sides.