Actually, my governor suggested prayer as his legitimate policy plan solution to a record drought. So I think my governor might be weirder, at least in some ways
The president of my church in the 90's had been Eisenhower's Secretary of Agriculture during 1953-1961. While in office, he suggested the exact same thing. Here's a quote from the "Church News", just after his death in 1994: "On June 27, 1953, while visiting San Antonio, Texas, during a severe drought, Secretary Benson suggested to Gov. Alan Shivers "the wisdom of proclaiming a day of fasting and prayers for rain." On June 30, Gov. Shivers telephoned the Secretary to say San Antonio had more than two inches of rain. Someone sent him a newspaper clipping: *Secretary of Agriculture Ezra Taft Benson apparently has contacts that are literally out of this world. When Benson left San Antonio on Sunday he promised south Texas farmers and ranchers immediate drought aid. Less than 24 hours later it rained for the first time in months."*
Is it Abbott? That sounds like some ridiculous bs Abbott would say. I'd be happy he's not my governor anymore, buuuut now I'm in Florida so DeSantis isn't any better 😑
Boy was I glad to see it though! Montana has become a muddy doormat for wealthy two-homers who come here to ski and fish and don't care about the people who live here year round.
Dont forget that in this election cycle, the districts for state assembly and senate have been redrawn to be more fair (by court order). Please make sure to go out and vote this year! Wisconsin needs some common sense back in office, since we lost a lot of it in 2010 with gerrymandering being such a large factor.
Big agree!! He asked really tough questions, that I wish were asked more often! I will say, though, local newspapers generally do interviews with local candidates ahead of elections. Its not a podcast, but its not nothing.
@theskyway168 I wish Kentucky did that. It's way more difficult than it should be to dig up any information on what and who is on our ballots, what it means, what people stand for. I really miss Washington state's voter's pamphlet.
Hank is amazing as a serious interviewer. The context cuts, the ability to hold people to what they say - I don’t think I’ve truly appreciated just how good he is at the field.
I'm from Minnesota, so my Governor actually started the whole "call these weirdos weird to their face" thing. I'm not terrifically jazzed at the prospect of him leaving the job here but I'm certainly excited to vote for him for VP.
Also chiming in about Democratic governors in "red" states. I'm in Kansas, and we have a "blue" governor. We haven't had either party hold the governors office for more than 8 years since the 1950s. It keeps going back and forth between Democrats and Republicans because split ticket voting exists. Also, split ticket voting is way more popular than people think, since the same can't be said for other state-wide elections, like for Senator or President, or other state offices.
Hey! I'm an east coast elite who has never even considered visiting Kansas, and I just wanna tell you that I love Governor Laura Kelly! We need more people like her to come to DC and enter the Senate, haha. Seriously, I'm convinced that Democratic governors from red states (Andy Beshear, Jared Polis, Josh Shapiro, Laura Kelly, etc) and Republican governors from blue states (Chris Christie, Chris Sununu, Larry Hogan, Arnold Shwartzenegger, Phill Scott, etc) are going to save America. We're so polarized politically and we forget that a lot of Americans are pretty centrist. Blue state Republicans and red state democrats are often the last remaining centrists in politics, and we need a lot more of them if we wanna fix America. Sherrod Brown, Jon Tester, Joe Manchin, Lisa Murkowski, Mitt Romney, and Susan Collins are all great and they should all be supported.
@@michaele1654 I mostly agree, but as a Mainer, I really wish Senator Collins would _vote_ as independently as she speaks... Jared Golden strikes me as the better moderate, but you have to consider how "red" much of Maine's second district is. I have noticed, as someone who's originally from Missouri, that Maine is much less polarized than Missouri was, and that Alabama (where my friends live and where I am atm) is. In Maine, you can often have a conversation, about politics, with people who disagree with you, and everyone walks away on speaking terms. I feel like that was more common everywhere in the mid 2000s than it is now, but maybe that's just me getting older.
@@ArcherSeven yeah, I agree on all that. I think Collins will break with the GOP on Supreme Court votes (alongside Romney and Murkowski) but she's a pretty loyal Republican otherwise. I do think that Maine's special. I like it. Chill weather, chill people. I think I'd own a second house in Kennebunkport if I had the means... Never been to Alabama or Missouri so I can't judge them at all, but I agree on things feeling more polarized and angrier than they used to... I actually was up in Canada as an expat from 2018 to 2021, and I barely recognize the America that I returned to. It was a real culture shock when I got back. Something really changed in our country. I know a lot of things happened when I was gone, so idk if lockdown or the election or something else changed American culture, but I feel like most people have retreated to their corners and gotten a little scary. Like, I heard that violent threats against librarians have increased fiftyfold in the last two years. How have we gotten to the point that people think it's justified to threaten librarians? That's not the America that I remember... And, although I disagree with all of her political views, I respect that 36-year-old grandma Lauren Boebart reached under the aisle and made a connection with a Democrat. We all need to get together with members of the opposite party and do hand stuff at Beetlejuice while vaping. This is mostly a joke but also I do think that everyone should be more willing to date people who have different political views than we do
Over in California, we (well, I used to live there) have a top-two open primary, so in the places which have caught on at least, moderate "good government" types win more often than you'd expect. The party affiliation may be 'D', but that's a big tent. Everywhere should switch to ranked-choice, IRV, STAR voting, or whatever... Because they are all miles better than what most places currently do.
Former City Councillor in Montana here. The Governor tried to blame county commissions, school boards and schools for the high property taxes. Not only are all 3 types of local governments restricted on how much they can increase their budgets year to year, but the all have been running on such tight shoestring that important infrastructure has necessarily been neglected for decades, not to mention how far behind on pay teachers, for example, are.
Wisconsin is in a similar situation, the state legislature was defunding education, with Walker’s (the other TFG) help. At least Evers can still veto, they tried to take his power away via referenda (2).
Ryan Busse is an absolute delight and I am now very invested in the Governer's race for Montana. Between him and Pete Buttigieg I hope we continue to get more charmingly competent politicians as guest stars on vlogbrothers. Also Ron DeSantis is, unfortunately, my Governer. That title gave me pause.
@@franny5156because most Americans only vote during the presidential election there are lots of other races timed for the same ticket too, though there are plenty of other local elections such as school boards, county elections, and others. I currently live in a west coast city, and I definitely voted more days a year when I lived in rural central America than I do currently. There was less to talk about in the Midwest tbh so people would talk about local politics more. Mainly structural (roads bridges gas tax), health care, and school funding. Also, Americans don't get time off for voting so some need money more than voting may be worth to them at that moment, so local elections are ignored by most folk. Subsequently a lot of state stuff is lined up for the presidential election cycles so people can have a higher chance of voting for state stuff.
As a fellow Montanan, I just want to say thank you so much for giving Busse this platform. The elation of seeing Trump out but Gianforte in in 2020 was an emotional whiplash. I really, really hope the Montanan voters show up for Busse for the sake of our constitution.
I truly honestly wish there were more public voices like Ryan Busse at the national level. I live in a deep red southern state and long for a sane voice to unite instead of continue to divide.
Not an American, but it's so refreshing to have a politician sound like a person for once. A lot of people who have to watch what they say (mostly politicians and celebrities) tend to get that "polished" sound to their voice and their opinions, but this sounds like a guy who's looking at it like just another job that someone's gotta do, and I really, really appreciate that.
I’m one of the people who got CI-128 on the ballot this year to secure our reproductive rights. I manage the project to campaign for it and the progressive candidates who will protect it in Montana. My office is based in Missoula. Thank you Hank for giving this issue the time it so desperately needs during your interview!
Not an american, it's just nice to see a conversation about policy not mired by extreme views or personal attacks. Also, well up for more long-form content from you and John 👀👀
Hank.... I just can't with you bro. You are better(and your brother is not exactly a slouch, my guy) at being a human being than any other person on the face of the planet. I'm 54, and I find myself everyday trying to grow up to be like you... This world is a bigger place because you are in it. Thank you. For everything.
@@persimnon Hm. In my memory it was longer. It's only 26 minutes long. Maybe because I didn't know who he was before the interview and don't live in America. ua-cam.com/video/4U3MDy8FF8E/v-deo.html
I'm only 15min in but I find it really interesting. I'm german and never really hear about american state politics only about presidential elections which get so annoying
Same. I spend way to much time online and hear a lot about US politics, but it's usually national. And if not, it's probably about some policies in Texas, Florida or other red states taking away reproductive rights, banning books in schools or sth similar that seem outlandish from my (obviously biased) German view. So it was very interesting to hear a more in depth conversation about politics in Montana, a state I hardly knew anything about. Helped to remind me that I definitely don't know enough about the 'states' part in the 'United States of America' and I better get rid of some of the prejudices I still have.
@@AV-we6woyes it is rare to get such a candid view! When I talked to my German relatives about their political system I was super confused too 😂 I’m hoping y’all can stay positive and keep the far right away!
I'm in Australia and I listened to this while doing macrame. It's always fascinating to hear about the state and local level because so much is zoomed out. Hearing the same topics echoed around the world on those levels reminds me how many things we all have in common.
I live in the deep south. Its been so frustrating how for years the vast majority of people simply ignore politics, don’t interact with it at all and then complain about shit. Thank you for doing this interview and exposing people who might not have gotten a chance to see a politician.
I lived in Bozeman for gradschool when Gianforte got elected as Montana's congressman. I still can't believe he ever got elected. I don't think he has been good for Montana and I am glad that Montana Democrats are putting up a strong opposition to him.
My left ear really liked the part around 24:00 and about a minute after where it got all the sound, my right ear really liked it when the stereo sound came back :P
As a Montanan, thank you for bringing more attention to Ryan's candidacy and platform. I truly believe our state is a wonderful place and like my fellow Montanans want to do everything we can to keep it "the last best place."
Fellow Montanan here (hello from Butte America!) And I wanted to say thank you very much for making this video. As I get older (I'm currently in my 30's) I feel more and more that I do not agree with voting straight down a ticket with my party affiliation. Which requires staying plugged into politics way more than I want to be. And I find that difficult sometimes. This video helps. I look forward to learning more about Ryan in the coming weeks leading up to the election
I’m from the suburbs right outside of Chicago and didn’t think I’d be so invested on the drama of Montana politics for almost 50 minutes. Good luck on the elections Montanans.
If US national politics worry you as a citizen, your local elections may still be the single most important factor for positive change and protecting your rights! One of the US national Republican party's most common strategies when they fail at national goals through elections and congress is to shift the arena to the courts or state/local governments where they hope people aren't looking. Even if you don't think of yourself as a Democrat or any other specific identity, a surprising amount of taxes, regulation, and services are at least partially determined at the state and local level.
I’m from Michigan, and I really appreciated this conversation. His perspective is so refreshing because he is genuinely concerned about bettering Montana for all people.
This was frickin awesome. This candidate shares a lot of my views, and in very red areas would be considered a "looney lefty". He just wants the freedom to be left alone, and to make sure that government works as intended, to be stewards of the land, and to make sure your people are taken care of. I really like this format and hope you do more in the future.
My parents lived in Montana for the first few years of their marriage. They said it's a great place to live and a crappy place to make a living. I really loved this video and really appreciate you making it.
As someone in what is definitely a red state, the climate change denial is definitely one of the most bafflingly obvious cases of paid speech I can think of (from the politicians, not the voters.) My knee-jerk is to say something like "Senator, have you looked in on your beach house lately?" and I know damn well the answer's almost definitely that they know and simply have no need to care about what their eyes show them clear as day.
As a Montanan, I thank you Hank for putting this guy out there on your channel, because more of us need to hear him talk about this stuff. The contrast with the out of touch poser we have in there right now couldn't be more stark. Busse is the real deal.
In particular, I like what he said about working people being at the center of the energy reformation. My biggest gripe with renewables is there's no effort being made to transition coal miners, or coal fired plant workers, into that industry. There's some effort being made with nuclear, because some of the skills do transfer over, but still not as much as there should be.
I have wanted to move to Montana for years. I am one of those politics nerds that decided not to relocate because of the changes in the laws there. I have a senior mother that would have come with me and those changes gave me pause when considering her needs. It's so beautiful and a great place to spend the second half of my life. Good luck to you guys. ❤
As a Dutchy living in Sweden. "How did I get through all that?" It was a very pleasant conversation and I learned a thing or two about another place. Catch y'all later!
@@weltfenos1021ya it’s the young earth creationists who want that to be real. If you look it up you’ll find they have even more crazy beliefs and are run by the type of people who would do tax evasion and beat there wives (multiple after the divorces)
Incorrect! “how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings" - Jesus in Luke 13:34 chicks = baby dinosaurs : )
Thank goodness you said something. That was gonna weight on me like a... Like a... Ah, dang, help me out here, guys. What's something large and heavy, but small enough to at least metaphorically not kill you? I dunno, like the baby version of... Something really big? I feel like this is on the tip of my tongue. Man. Now THIS is gonna weigh on me. Like a baby dinosaur. I'm sure someone will come up with a good simile I can use here.
I see the collin and samir reference. This is very interesting to sit through and listen to a guy who has no impact on me talk about current issues in your area. Thanks for making this!
I'm a white guy in South Africa. I didn't grow up in Apartheid, but i see the wounds it left every time i step outside. Knowing what led to things being the way they are helps do my part in making things better
I was at the state legislature last session. I watched in horror as they passed bill after bill in spite of really good arguments for not doing so. As a super majority of one political party there is no opposition they simply do what they want and the Governor signed all of the bills into law. Thanks for doing this Hank. As a native retired woman in Montana it is sad to see our state which for my whole life had been pretty politically balance between to parties. To be ruled by one ideology.
I love this political video. Haven't seen a lot of politics from the Greens. This is exciting! Especially hearing about a state that one doesn't hear a lot about.
Not an American, but this was interesting as hell, Hank. It's always fascinating to hear from such folk, whos principles seem more based on common sense than (what seems like to an outsider like me) arbitrary party lines.
Why did Republicans raise property taxes? The answer is easy…greed. They KNOW that people on fixed income or have low income can’t afford a raise in property taxes. And who is going to buy that property once it’s seized? It’s not going to be a local looking for more space or a better yard or whatever. It’s going to be a corporation. One that will rent the property and make a killing in profits. One that will collude with other corporations to keep property values high and make it near impossible for anyone or anything but a large corporation can buy any new property that comes on the market. I don’t doubt for a second that they knew EXACTLY what they were doing. And to add extra shine to my tin foil hat, I believe all that infighting was staged. They’ll keep the wheels spinning until people lose their homes so that the corporations those big money Republicans are buddy buddy with can buy them up and line everyone’s pockets in a year or two.
In all fairness property taxes are probably the most “fair” tax as you aren’t discouraging people from producing more as with income and sales tax also you cant take the land somewhere else it can’t be taxed like with the other two and in theory raising property taxes hurts big corporations buying lots of property the most
@@AceTester But if you're low-income or fixed-income, and you own property anyway because you inherited it or you bought it years ago, that property is your stability. Raising taxes beyond what you can afford takes your stability away. Meanwhile, corporations who own many properties are able to do so because of their excess of profit, and while their property taxes will be a higher total number, it'll also be a much lower percentage of their profits/disposable income.
I really appreciate how you keep a relatively neutral stance through this interview and give his competitor the benefit of the doubt at times where you say things like “I’m sure there’s a reason for X…” Generally this was a really fun interview to watch and you did a great job as an interviewer. I’d love to see more of you talking to people like this!
First, we don’t need a billionaire to be elected into the government. Second, tax guideline: no tax on poor, a bit tax on middle tax, high tax on rich.
Not American here, but this felt kind of exciting! Huge changes happened politically in the U.K. this year, with many place who have never had a labour MP voting one in. (Labour is sort of our equivalent of democrats). Any politician who genuinely wants to help, listen, and has plans to do things that will benefit people who need them most is exciting in my books. Too many are power hungry, greedy for more wealth than they need and/or keen on the attention. My opinion is: you don’t have to find a perfect candidate. You just need to pick the least worst option when you vote. You don’t have to go to a bar with them, or agree with their minor preferences, you need to find someone who is most likely to listen and represent you and your neighbours.
"How the heck did you get all the way through that?!" I got through it because I've gotten through them all since 2009 and 49:18 about Montana politics is not gonna break my streak. Never underestimate the force of habit!Also it was still pretty interesting 🙂
Here in Montana we don't have sales tax, so when we fund things the burden tends to go towards homeowners and property prices. This last round of property tax raises damaged first time homebuyers and first time famailies as it made starter home significantly more expensive. On top of that and the increase number of people moving into areas like Great Falls and Missoula are causing increase in rentals over homeownership. Which then increase property value which in turn increases tax burden, a 100k house turned 250k has the tax increase about as much.
Hehe, a video promoting local elections (well, non-federal elections) coming out on the day of the local council elections here in Australia! Listened to most of this earlier today while getting ready to go vote, and just finishing up watching this evening 😊
I am in favor of responsible gun ownership, though i personally choose not to own or have access to a gun. My dad used to teach hunters' safety, and I've attended his classes, been certified, etc. I have also sustained a traumatic brain injury, which affects my ability to process data and make good choices under pressure. Therefore i choose not to put myself in that situation. If more people would choose to regulate themselves in that way, we'd be much less reliant on government to tell us what to do. Isn’t that desirable? As a social anarchist, I support that view. Thank you for doing something similar!
As a fellow Montanan, I fucking love Montana politics. It’s so buck wild. My favorite anti-Gianfore ad was the “those aren’t his cows” ad. Politics is serious business, but sometimes the framing is absurd
@@mariannetfinches I mean it’s basically what it says on the tin haha. Last election cycle, Gianforte ran an ad wearing a cowboy hat and there was a barn and cows. His opps ran an ad that was like “That’s a FAKE cowboy hat. That’s a PROP barn. Those aren’t HIS COWS. Gianforte isn’t a real Montanan. Vote for the other guy”
"Our differences are wide." Exactly! This is why I didn't understand undecided voters. I love that his kids were part of that constitutional lawsuit and we have framers available to speak to the intent. 💜 I love our paid purple Montana. Giant fart is scared to debate Busse.
Actually, my governor suggested prayer as his legitimate policy plan solution to a record drought. So I think my governor might be weirder, at least in some ways
No, we only wish that was weird.
Distressingly normal for the US.
STEG-O-SAUR-US
The president of my church in the 90's had been Eisenhower's Secretary of Agriculture during 1953-1961. While in office, he suggested the exact same thing. Here's a quote from the "Church News", just after his death in 1994:
"On June 27, 1953, while visiting San Antonio, Texas, during a severe drought, Secretary Benson suggested to Gov. Alan Shivers "the wisdom of proclaiming a day of fasting and prayers for rain." On June 30, Gov. Shivers telephoned the Secretary to say San Antonio had more than two inches of rain. Someone sent him a newspaper clipping:
*Secretary of Agriculture Ezra Taft Benson apparently has contacts that are literally out of this world. When Benson left San Antonio on Sunday he promised south Texas farmers and ranchers immediate drought aid. Less than 24 hours later it rained for the first time in months."*
Hello, fellow Utahns!
Is it Abbott? That sounds like some ridiculous bs Abbott would say.
I'd be happy he's not my governor anymore, buuuut now I'm in Florida so DeSantis isn't any better 😑
Hank I know we got rid of the four minute rule but goddamn
MWAHAHAAHAH
I'd argue educational
@@vlogbrothersfour hour video when?
It's educational!
@@darcy_1 we already have a channel for that, its called "Knowing Better" he just put up a 3 hour video this week.
I can finally sleep -- someone has explained how they got the stegosauruses on the ark.
Hank, when you said any kind of video makes sense on vlogbrothers, I was not expecting a fifty minute interview! 🤣
Wait, this isn't hankschannel?
More 50 minute interviews please.
Boy was I glad to see it though! Montana has become a muddy doormat for wealthy two-homers who come here to ski and fish and don't care about the people who live here year round.
Literally the first thing I thought lol. I've watched every video on this channel and this may be the longest outside of P4A livestreams!
I'm from Wisconsin. This man just earned my first ever political donation. For a race in a state I don't live in. Best of luck, Ryan!
FRJ
Dont forget that in this election cycle, the districts for state assembly and senate have been redrawn to be more fair (by court order). Please make sure to go out and vote this year!
Wisconsin needs some common sense back in office, since we lost a lot of it in 2010 with gerrymandering being such a large factor.
Me too! Just donated.
o/ neighbor. (MN wise)
"I think he likes to have 'Governor' on his business card" HOOOOOLY SHIT THAT BURN. Instantly invested. 10/10
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Man, I wish every state had a Hank green to interview awesome local candidates.
Big agree!! He asked really tough questions, that I wish were asked more often! I will say, though, local newspapers generally do interviews with local candidates ahead of elections. Its not a podcast, but its not nothing.
Time to go on tour, Hank!
Be the Hank Green you want to see in the world!
@theskyway168 I wish Kentucky did that. It's way more difficult than it should be to dig up any information on what and who is on our ballots, what it means, what people stand for. I really miss Washington state's voter's pamphlet.
Hank US tour to interview all the candidates 😂😂
Hank is amazing as a serious interviewer. The context cuts, the ability to hold people to what they say - I don’t think I’ve truly appreciated just how good he is at the field.
I'm from Minnesota, so my Governor actually started the whole "call these weirdos weird to their face" thing. I'm not terrifically jazzed at the prospect of him leaving the job here but I'm certainly excited to vote for him for VP.
I feel the exact same way.
Ok but hear me out: first female Native governor! And continuing our great traditional of excellent VPs. It'll be worth it!
Absolutely!!
so sad that tim would be leaving MN if he wins but I think peggy would be a great fit for gov
Ditto
Also chiming in about Democratic governors in "red" states. I'm in Kansas, and we have a "blue" governor. We haven't had either party hold the governors office for more than 8 years since the 1950s. It keeps going back and forth between Democrats and Republicans because split ticket voting exists.
Also, split ticket voting is way more popular than people think, since the same can't be said for other state-wide elections, like for Senator or President, or other state offices.
Hey! I'm an east coast elite who has never even considered visiting Kansas, and I just wanna tell you that I love Governor Laura Kelly! We need more people like her to come to DC and enter the Senate, haha. Seriously, I'm convinced that Democratic governors from red states (Andy Beshear, Jared Polis, Josh Shapiro, Laura Kelly, etc) and Republican governors from blue states (Chris Christie, Chris Sununu, Larry Hogan, Arnold Shwartzenegger, Phill Scott, etc) are going to save America. We're so polarized politically and we forget that a lot of Americans are pretty centrist. Blue state Republicans and red state democrats are often the last remaining centrists in politics, and we need a lot more of them if we wanna fix America. Sherrod Brown, Jon Tester, Joe Manchin, Lisa Murkowski, Mitt Romney, and Susan Collins are all great and they should all be supported.
@@michaele1654 I mostly agree, but as a Mainer, I really wish Senator Collins would _vote_ as independently as she speaks... Jared Golden strikes me as the better moderate, but you have to consider how "red" much of Maine's second district is.
I have noticed, as someone who's originally from Missouri, that Maine is much less polarized than Missouri was, and that Alabama (where my friends live and where I am atm) is. In Maine, you can often have a conversation, about politics, with people who disagree with you, and everyone walks away on speaking terms. I feel like that was more common everywhere in the mid 2000s than it is now, but maybe that's just me getting older.
@@ArcherSeven yeah, I agree on all that. I think Collins will break with the GOP on Supreme Court votes (alongside Romney and Murkowski) but she's a pretty loyal Republican otherwise. I do think that Maine's special. I like it. Chill weather, chill people. I think I'd own a second house in Kennebunkport if I had the means... Never been to Alabama or Missouri so I can't judge them at all, but I agree on things feeling more polarized and angrier than they used to... I actually was up in Canada as an expat from 2018 to 2021, and I barely recognize the America that I returned to. It was a real culture shock when I got back. Something really changed in our country. I know a lot of things happened when I was gone, so idk if lockdown or the election or something else changed American culture, but I feel like most people have retreated to their corners and gotten a little scary. Like, I heard that violent threats against librarians have increased fiftyfold in the last two years. How have we gotten to the point that people think it's justified to threaten librarians? That's not the America that I remember...
And, although I disagree with all of her political views, I respect that 36-year-old grandma Lauren Boebart reached under the aisle and made a connection with a Democrat. We all need to get together with members of the opposite party and do hand stuff at Beetlejuice while vaping. This is mostly a joke but also I do think that everyone should be more willing to date people who have different political views than we do
Fellow Kansan here, and I love my “red” state Democratic governor and the split ticket voting and culture that exists to make that happen!
Over in California, we (well, I used to live there) have a top-two open primary, so in the places which have caught on at least, moderate "good government" types win more often than you'd expect. The party affiliation may be 'D', but that's a big tent.
Everywhere should switch to ranked-choice, IRV, STAR voting, or whatever... Because they are all miles better than what most places currently do.
Former City Councillor in Montana here. The Governor tried to blame county commissions, school boards and schools for the high property taxes. Not only are all 3 types of local governments restricted on how much they can increase their budgets year to year, but the all have been running on such tight shoestring that important infrastructure has necessarily been neglected for decades, not to mention how far behind on pay teachers, for example, are.
Sounds like voting for the Greed Over People party is working out for regular folks 😢
Thank you for serving and thank you for sharing.
Wow that governor is even worse than he sounds from this interview. Best of luck with getting rid of him!
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Wisconsin is in a similar situation, the state legislature was defunding education, with Walker’s (the other TFG) help. At least Evers can still veto, they tried to take his power away via referenda (2).
A crash course on organized labor history would be lit 🔥
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Ryan Busse is an absolute delight and I am now very invested in the Governer's race for Montana. Between him and Pete Buttigieg I hope we continue to get more charmingly competent politicians as guest stars on vlogbrothers.
Also Ron DeSantis is, unfortunately, my Governer. That title gave me pause.
Hey I have a question as non american, are the national elections at the same time as the local elections?
@@franny5156because most Americans only vote during the presidential election there are lots of other races timed for the same ticket too, though there are plenty of other local elections such as school boards, county elections, and others.
I currently live in a west coast city, and I definitely voted more days a year when I lived in rural central America than I do currently. There was less to talk about in the Midwest tbh so people would talk about local politics more. Mainly structural (roads bridges gas tax), health care, and school funding.
Also, Americans don't get time off for voting so some need money more than voting may be worth to them at that moment, so local elections are ignored by most folk. Subsequently a lot of state stuff is lined up for the presidential election cycles so people can have a higher chance of voting for state stuff.
Ryan bussy
I'm sorry.
@@franny5156 Only the November elections are the same time.
I think your governor is actually super weird. Those white boots and his odd smile? Something is off.
Fellow Missoulian here, thank you for giving Ryan Busse this kind of platform!
I read that as "mussolinian" at first and was both confused and concerned, hahaha
@@fullmetal929 me too haha. hail duce
@@fullmetal929Me too lmao
As a fellow Montanan, I just want to say thank you so much for giving Busse this platform. The elation of seeing Trump out but Gianforte in in 2020 was an emotional whiplash. I really, really hope the Montanan voters show up for Busse for the sake of our constitution.
I truly honestly wish there were more public voices like Ryan Busse at the national level. I live in a deep red southern state and long for a sane voice to unite instead of continue to divide.
Not an American, but it's so refreshing to have a politician sound like a person for once. A lot of people who have to watch what they say (mostly politicians and celebrities) tend to get that "polished" sound to their voice and their opinions, but this sounds like a guy who's looking at it like just another job that someone's gotta do, and I really, really appreciate that.
I’m one of the people who got CI-128 on the ballot this year to secure our reproductive rights. I manage the project to campaign for it and the progressive candidates who will protect it in Montana. My office is based in Missoula. Thank you Hank for giving this issue the time it so desperately needs during your interview!
Best of luck!
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As a montanan, thank you for this work!!!
@@wildstargazer gotchu fam
Not an american, it's just nice to see a conversation about policy not mired by extreme views or personal attacks. Also, well up for more long-form content from you and John 👀👀
Thank you for positive political content. This shit stresses me out so hard sometimes
Hank.... I just can't with you bro. You are better(and your brother is not exactly a slouch, my guy) at being a human being than any other person on the face of the planet. I'm 54, and I find myself everyday trying to grow up to be like you...
This world is a bigger place because you are in it.
Thank you. For everything.
Now I want an upload of the whole Pete Buttigieg conversation
@@Neonb88 There is one. At least I saw an hour or so of it.
@@florian-249link? I can’t find it
@@persimnon Hm. In my memory it was longer. It's only 26 minutes long. Maybe because I didn't know who he was before the interview and don't live in America.
ua-cam.com/video/4U3MDy8FF8E/v-deo.html
@@florian-249 ah, that was the one I’ve already seen. Was hoping you found a hidden longer version because I really liked the interview
😂😂😂 neonb88 why?? That guy failed upwards AF
I'm in Canada. I made it all the way through. Crossing my fingers for human rights, both for your state and country.
I'm only 15min in but I find it really interesting. I'm german and never really hear about american state politics only about presidential elections which get so annoying
Same. I spend way to much time online and hear a lot about US politics, but it's usually national. And if not, it's probably about some policies in Texas, Florida or other red states taking away reproductive rights, banning books in schools or sth similar that seem outlandish from my (obviously biased) German view. So it was very interesting to hear a more in depth conversation about politics in Montana, a state I hardly knew anything about. Helped to remind me that I definitely don't know enough about the 'states' part in the 'United States of America' and I better get rid of some of the prejudices I still have.
@@AV-we6woyes it is rare to get such a candid view! When I talked to my German relatives about their political system I was super confused too 😂 I’m hoping y’all can stay positive and keep the far right away!
Another Canadian echoing this
Agreed! Lots of us Canadians are invested in American politics since some of the trends seep over the border 😅
Hank, I saw a tweet of yours quoted in a UA-cam short by the USDOT a couple days ago. Seems like Pete is keeping tabs on you after the interview!
I'm in Australia and I listened to this while doing macrame. It's always fascinating to hear about the state and local level because so much is zoomed out. Hearing the same topics echoed around the world on those levels reminds me how many things we all have in common.
I live in the deep south. Its been so frustrating how for years the vast majority of people simply ignore politics, don’t interact with it at all and then complain about shit. Thank you for doing this interview and exposing people who might not have gotten a chance to see a politician.
This guy rules. I hope he can overcome partisanship and win
I lived in Bozeman for gradschool when Gianforte got elected as Montana's congressman. I still can't believe he ever got elected. I don't think he has been good for Montana and I am glad that Montana Democrats are putting up a strong opposition to him.
My left ear really liked the part around 24:00 and about a minute after where it got all the sound, my right ear really liked it when the stereo sound came back :P
Both my ears are liking _what_ they are hearing, very good discussion
ty for commenting this bc i was listening with just my right earphone in and was so confused
I was just looking through the comments to see if anyone else was talking about the audio weirdness
Thanks. I was afraid I had ripped the inside of the chord on my headphones again, lol.
Lmao thank you
As a Montanan, thank you for bringing more attention to Ryan's candidacy and platform. I truly believe our state is a wonderful place and like my fellow Montanans want to do everything we can to keep it "the last best place."
Fellow Montanan here (hello from Butte America!) And I wanted to say thank you very much for making this video. As I get older (I'm currently in my 30's) I feel more and more that I do not agree with voting straight down a ticket with my party affiliation. Which requires staying plugged into politics way more than I want to be. And I find that difficult sometimes. This video helps. I look forward to learning more about Ryan in the coming weeks leading up to the election
I’m from the suburbs right outside of Chicago and didn’t think I’d be so invested on the drama of Montana politics for almost 50 minutes. Good luck on the elections Montanans.
Opening humor, very solid. No laughs, very dry. Quality jokes. Dad level jokes.
If US national politics worry you as a citizen, your local elections may still be the single most important factor for positive change and protecting your rights!
One of the US national Republican party's most common strategies when they fail at national goals through elections and congress is to shift the arena to the courts or state/local governments where they hope people aren't looking. Even if you don't think of yourself as a Democrat or any other specific identity, a surprising amount of taxes, regulation, and services are at least partially determined at the state and local level.
I’m from Michigan, and I really appreciated this conversation. His perspective is so refreshing because he is genuinely concerned about bettering Montana for all people.
Michigan mentioned ✋
@@AlRoderick🫱✋ Michigan represent
I live in montana currently. Thank you for posting this.
I'm listening from Europe and there's nothing I can say. Good luck, Montana.
This was frickin awesome. This candidate shares a lot of my views, and in very red areas would be considered a "looney lefty". He just wants the freedom to be left alone, and to make sure that government works as intended, to be stewards of the land, and to make sure your people are taken care of. I really like this format and hope you do more in the future.
I'm not from Montana, but this is an excellent interview for even non-Montanas.
My parents lived in Montana for the first few years of their marriage. They said it's a great place to live and a crappy place to make a living. I really loved this video and really appreciate you making it.
"governmentorial candidate body slams hank green" ... add "for charity" at the end and you got yourself a winner
I came here to comment the same thing
Gubernatorial
As someone in what is definitely a red state, the climate change denial is definitely one of the most bafflingly obvious cases of paid speech I can think of (from the politicians, not the voters.) My knee-jerk is to say something like "Senator, have you looked in on your beach house lately?" and I know damn well the answer's almost definitely that they know and simply have no need to care about what their eyes show them clear as day.
As a Montanan, I thank you Hank for putting this guy out there on your channel, because more of us need to hear him talk about this stuff. The contrast with the out of touch poser we have in there right now couldn't be more stark. Busse is the real deal.
I desperately wish I lived in Montana so I could vote for this guy
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Folks like Busse, Walz, Shapiro, and Whitmer are why I'm so confused when the pundits say Democrats don't have a deep bench.
Hank, I got all the way through that as a non-American because it was refreshing to hear there are parts of your country that are not that polarized
This is the kind of perspective America needs more of. Thank you both for sharing this important moment for Montana!!
Local government is always key!
I wish there was a candid UA-cam interview like this for every State race!!
In particular, I like what he said about working people being at the center of the energy reformation. My biggest gripe with renewables is there's no effort being made to transition coal miners, or coal fired plant workers, into that industry. There's some effort being made with nuclear, because some of the skills do transfer over, but still not as much as there should be.
Another fellow Missoulian here! great conversation here, and I'm stoked to learn more about Ryan and his ideas!
Read this comment and then saw the username... hi Andy!
The democrat-knife fight statement is so true it hurts
As an Ohioan, my governor might not be weirder but my senator definitely is...
Thank you for doing and posting this interview. We don't get to hear enough of Busse. -- A Bozeman Local
I'm gonna say it. I don't care how long the vlogbrothers video is i'm gonna watch it. This is a power you wield.
I have wanted to move to Montana for years. I am one of those politics nerds that decided not to relocate because of the changes in the laws there. I have a senior mother that would have come with me and those changes gave me pause when considering her needs. It's so beautiful and a great place to spend the second half of my life. Good luck to you guys. ❤
It's weird to say this-because it was the president, and it was Obama-but look how far you've come, Hank! I'm looking forward to this.
As a Dutchy living in Sweden. "How did I get through all that?"
It was a very pleasant conversation and I learned a thing or two about another place.
Catch y'all later!
Good job, Hank!👍💯
Good luck, Ryan Busse!
Montana is a magical (and deeply weird) place. Here's hoping we're able to keep it that way. Remember to vote!
Hello from Italy! It was an interesting interview. Go Montana people! Make your voice heard by voting for somebody who wants your wellbeing!
I forget I'm in Montana right now and that Hank is also in Montana.
FOR REAL! Startles me every time I remember
That thumbnail made you look the most like John I've ever seen.
I literally thought it *was* John until I read this comment!
They’re becoming twins
it's sth about the frown and the quiff i think? I have stared at this image too long and I cant really tell
@@_Kathrin_ i think his face hit middle age finally
In case anyone was wondering, there is nothing about baby dinosaurs in the Bible. I checked.
Even the fundamental creationists have to be like "what? Excuse me"
@@weltfenos1021ya it’s the young earth creationists who want that to be real. If you look it up you’ll find they have even more crazy beliefs and are run by the type of people who would do tax evasion and beat there wives (multiple after the divorces)
Incorrect!
“how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings"
- Jesus in Luke 13:34
chicks = baby dinosaurs
: )
Thank goodness you said something. That was gonna weight on me like a... Like a...
Ah, dang, help me out here, guys. What's something large and heavy, but small enough to at least metaphorically not kill you? I dunno, like the baby version of... Something really big? I feel like this is on the tip of my tongue.
Man. Now THIS is gonna weigh on me. Like a baby dinosaur. I'm sure someone will come up with a good simile I can use here.
Thank you for reading the bible for us 😊
24:18 “These loud, mic’ed-up social media warriors - they don’t represent most folks.” … then Hank turns his mic off for the rest of the segment.. 😂
I need to hear more about his position on socks, sock trading, and deregulation of the sock market.
"My world-view is to allow people to have their world views" - put that on a t-shirt, a sign, a button, a billboard. What a great and earnest idea.
This guy is just so real and sensible. I wish him all the luck in his race.
I see the collin and samir reference.
This is very interesting to sit through and listen to a guy who has no impact on me talk about current issues in your area. Thanks for making this!
I'm a white guy in South Africa. I didn't grow up in Apartheid, but i see the wounds it left every time i step outside. Knowing what led to things being the way they are helps do my part in making things better
Recently moved from Montana to Idaho and I am sad to not get to vote in MT this year, but excited to vote in the local elections here now!
"Gubernatorial candidate body-slams cancer survivor" might be tough to spin positively.
Based on the cancer diagnosis reports, "Gubernatorial candidate body-slams brother of author John Green" is a more likely headline 😂
Sometimes I have hope.
I'm a french canadian, so it's not often.
But here we go! What a treat.
Hope.
My governor is pretty effing awesome and I don't want to lose him but I hope he can do for this country what he did for the state.
Tim Walz??
This man should be a governor of something ❤❤
Thanks for that Hank! Its nice to see political candidates that behave as if they are humans. Also highlights others that are so darn weird.
I was at the state legislature last session. I watched in horror as they passed bill after bill in spite of really good arguments for not doing so. As a super majority of one political party there is no opposition they simply do what they want and the Governor signed all of the bills into law.
Thanks for doing this Hank. As a native retired woman in Montana it is sad to see our state which for my whole life had been pretty politically balance between to parties. To be ruled by one ideology.
I love this political video. Haven't seen a lot of politics from the Greens. This is exciting! Especially hearing about a state that one doesn't hear a lot about.
Knife fight= 14 Point policy plan? I love it!
Not an American, but this was interesting as hell, Hank. It's always fascinating to hear from such folk, whos principles seem more based on common sense than (what seems like to an outsider like me) arbitrary party lines.
Why did Republicans raise property taxes? The answer is easy…greed.
They KNOW that people on fixed income or have low income can’t afford a raise in property taxes.
And who is going to buy that property once it’s seized?
It’s not going to be a local looking for more space or a better yard or whatever.
It’s going to be a corporation. One that will rent the property and make a killing in profits. One that will collude with other corporations to keep property values high and make it near impossible for anyone or anything but a large corporation can buy any new property that comes on the market.
I don’t doubt for a second that they knew EXACTLY what they were doing.
And to add extra shine to my tin foil hat, I believe all that infighting was staged. They’ll keep the wheels spinning until people lose their homes so that the corporations those big money Republicans are buddy buddy with can buy them up and line everyone’s pockets in a year or two.
In all fairness property taxes are probably the most “fair” tax as you aren’t discouraging people from producing more as with income and sales tax also you cant take the land somewhere else it can’t be taxed like with the other two and in theory raising property taxes hurts big corporations buying lots of property the most
@@AceTester But if you're low-income or fixed-income, and you own property anyway because you inherited it or you bought it years ago, that property is your stability. Raising taxes beyond what you can afford takes your stability away.
Meanwhile, corporations who own many properties are able to do so because of their excess of profit, and while their property taxes will be a higher total number, it'll also be a much lower percentage of their profits/disposable income.
Great, great interview. 💙
I'm so excited about this! Thank you from a blue dot in Billings 💙
I really appreciate how you keep a relatively neutral stance through this interview and give his competitor the benefit of the doubt at times where you say things like “I’m sure there’s a reason for X…”
Generally this was a really fun interview to watch and you did a great job as an interviewer. I’d love to see more of you talking to people like this!
Hank: My Governor is weirder than yours!
Me: Oklahoma
I have loved listening to this and your interview with Pete Buttigieg. Please do more :)
I've been in DC for a couple years but I'm hoping to move back to Bozeman next year and I CANNOT WAIT to have Ryan Busse as my governor.
First, we don’t need a billionaire to be elected into the government.
Second, tax guideline: no tax on poor, a bit tax on middle tax, high tax on rich.
I like that tax guideline
I have been advocating that style of tax for a long time.
Not American here, but this felt kind of exciting!
Huge changes happened politically in the U.K. this year, with many place who have never had a labour MP voting one in. (Labour is sort of our equivalent of democrats).
Any politician who genuinely wants to help, listen, and has plans to do things that will benefit people who need them most is exciting in my books. Too many are power hungry, greedy for more wealth than they need and/or keen on the attention.
My opinion is: you don’t have to find a perfect candidate. You just need to pick the least worst option when you vote. You don’t have to go to a bar with them, or agree with their minor preferences, you need to find someone who is most likely to listen and represent you and your neighbours.
im not eligible to vote in Montana, but if I could I'd vote for this guy, he seems nice and chill
As a non American that made it all the way through, that was a very interesting slice of US politics thanks Hank!
More of this type of content, please! I love your style of interviewing; the honesty is refreshing!
the montana constitution preamble was actually taught in a nature writing course i was in so yes some people do read it for fun! 😂
My governor is Tim Walz for now!
"How the heck did you get all the way through that?!"
I got through it because I've gotten through them all since 2009 and 49:18 about Montana politics is not gonna break my streak. Never underestimate the force of habit!Also it was still pretty interesting 🙂
What’s wrong with taxes!!! I live in New Zealand and my taxes pay for healthcare, education, fun services. For me and for others.
Here in Montana we don't have sales tax, so when we fund things the burden tends to go towards homeowners and property prices. This last round of property tax raises damaged first time homebuyers and first time famailies as it made starter home significantly more expensive. On top of that and the increase number of people moving into areas like Great Falls and Missoula are causing increase in rentals over homeownership. Which then increase property value which in turn increases tax burden, a 100k house turned 250k has the tax increase about as much.
Hehe, a video promoting local elections (well, non-federal elections) coming out on the day of the local council elections here in Australia! Listened to most of this earlier today while getting ready to go vote, and just finishing up watching this evening 😊
Great interview and convo. Thanks Hank and Ryan. Appreciated and important, cheers!
I am in favor of responsible gun ownership, though i personally choose not to own or have access to a gun. My dad used to teach hunters' safety, and I've attended his classes, been certified, etc. I have also sustained a traumatic brain injury, which affects my ability to process data and make good choices under pressure. Therefore i choose not to put myself in that situation. If more people would choose to regulate themselves in that way, we'd be much less reliant on government to tell us what to do. Isn’t that desirable? As a social anarchist, I support that view. Thank you for doing something similar!
As a fellow Montanan, I fucking love Montana politics. It’s so buck wild. My favorite anti-Gianfore ad was the “those aren’t his cows” ad.
Politics is serious business, but sometimes the framing is absurd
I have no idea what the cow thing is, but hearing that phrase out of context made me chuckle
@@mariannetfinches I mean it’s basically what it says on the tin haha. Last election cycle, Gianforte ran an ad wearing a cowboy hat and there was a barn and cows. His opps ran an ad that was like “That’s a FAKE cowboy hat. That’s a PROP barn. Those aren’t HIS COWS. Gianforte isn’t a real Montanan. Vote for the other guy”
"Our differences are wide." Exactly! This is why I didn't understand undecided voters.
I love that his kids were part of that constitutional lawsuit and we have framers available to speak to the intent. 💜
I love our paid purple Montana.
Giant fart is scared to debate Busse.