I am not collecting these but I feel your pain. I wonder where this industry is going. In the 90s, Image and Marvel pretty much made comics worthless and gimmicky (with variants covers and bonus material and other strange things). This eventually eliminated the speculator market (as these comics were overprinted and didn't have any value), the loss of demand made all comic-book publishers suffer from it and that is one of the contributing factors to Marvel going bankrupt. But with NECA and Mattel, this is not the case. They are not overproducing (afaik), and they are definitely selling what they produce. However... they are selling their stuff to people that get a big profit from it, and end up becoming their competition in terms of customer money allowance a month. Should I buy this Muckman figure or pay a scalper for the Turtles in disguise pack? I can imagine real people making these decisions. I don't think it affects NECA or Mattel too much, but I don't know... If I were working for these companies, I wouldn't like to see my products being sold for twice the money I sold them for, without getting a profit from that. In fact, should I increase the price, given that people are willing to pay that much? I don't think this will break the industry, but it will break the customers.
Thanks for making this video. I so pissed I don't even want to wait my energy with this topic!. I planned a week ahead of this day, went on to power con site at 12 noon as a non attendee. Didn't work, kept giving me error messages. Finally after 30 minutes I got in and all three exclusives were sold out. So was bid bad toy store after I found out through an email there now magicly up for pre order. And yep!. Sold out. Mattel you should be ashamed for this nonsense. And power con , you are unreal. And I'm sure those bot online orders did well. Thanks alot.
I’m sick and tired of exclusives and scalpers taking all the fun out of collecting. It’s in every freaking line now. Just makes you want to quit the hobby.
I know this line was doing well and at a good price now we’re going down the exclusives path so I’m done with it as far I’m concerned the line is dead.
Even with working from home during the pandemic and having the ability to go to stores in my area frequently, I can't convey just how difficult it has been to purchase the Masters Origins figures. I've witnessed stockers at Target being stopped by grown adults before the u-boat even makes it to the toy aisle in order to pilfer through the boxes for scarce items. I've searched store after store for certain figures, only to eventually find an abundance of particular figures at a local 'collector' shop for marked up prices. I tried to go to Big Bad Toy Store to no avail so as to order one of the exclusives, only to find that that the item sold out almost instantaneously- then see in the next moment, said items popping up on Ebay for grossly inflated prices. There is something wrong with product availability and distribution when basic characters like Orko can't be obtained for the regular price at which it is released without resorting to a scalper/flipper price online. To this day, I've yet to see the Keldor/Kronis pack or any of wave two at a physical retailer store, and many of the others I've only seen once. Aside from a peg full of He-Man and Skeletor figures, the allotted Origins space at local stores constantly stays empty. Alas, I've collected various MOTU items over the years, but at this point, it is no longer enjoyable. The Origins figures that I did manage to obtain via retail store, I went ahead and put them up for sale on the Org marketplace. I'm over it- Mattel can keep it. The line is an in-store retail line in name only, intentionally reliant on artificial inflation and scarcity. There is absolutely no reason, why in 2021, if Mattel truly wanted everyone to purchase an item, to not be able to offer a means to do so. At this juncture, Mattel wants it this way. With as hard as the items are for an adult to obtain, a kid has no hope.
The argument is Power Con does not have to allow non-attendees these exclusives. I understand that and commend them for that, however they allowed people to order 3 of each exclusive. The real culprit in all this is Mattel. This was a key accessory/figure set for Castle Grayskull. I would like to think at the very least the space armor figure gets a single carded release. These brand marketing teams have to be secretive and leave fans in the dark. They are re-releasing some of their Lord of power figures that was a powercon exclusive last year, albeit with different paint apps.
This thing was a mess, On the Power-con site they said they never had instant sellouts before so everyone should be able to get one. Obviously they weren't paying attention to how the past year has been with scalpers taking and botting everything. I'm so glad I read through their Q&A beforehand cause at 9 I was on BBTS and was able to grab them no problem and they were up for about 10 minutes like you said. But I did want to order through Power-con and see what the price difference was but the site wasn't working for me at all. I did read on the Q&A that the shipping and handling charge was going to be crazy expensive because Mattel made their Con boxes huge this year and they even apologized in advance for the insane shipping price so I think thats why BBTS was charging $220, $80, and $50
I think today was the nail in the coffin for me. Between the rise of evil 2pack, the turtles in disguise 4 pack, Major Blood and this I've had enough. Just no point being involved in any of this anymore, it's not fun. This hobby is going down a path I know longer want to follow. I had a great run but all things must come to an end.
The funny shit is when these companies say “What’s going on? Why aren’t we selling? What can we do to improve sales?” 🤦🏻♂️ Then they’ll pay some employee in marketing like $40/hr to figure out what we’ve been telling them for years!!
@@DerrickAntonio85- I guess the older you get the less patience you have. It's just time for a new hobby. No hard feelings but when the fun is gone it's time to move on.
Ia Super7 the only reliable toy company? I mean they done sold out of stuff and already put up additional pre-orders more than once over the last few months
I could understand making repaints of current or future figures as powercon exclusives but Secrets of Grayskull is a must for everyone. DAMN YOU MATTEL!!
Collecting for anything modern really sucks these days. With all the manufactured scarcity, scalpers, and product that's overpriced to begin with because of low production runs, it's just not fun anymore. Even when I come across mass-released retail product that I like, there's a very small chance that I'll actually buy it. Why bother starting a new line that I know is going to have gaping holes? I've pretty much given up on the GI Joe Classified line for the time being until Hasbro starts acting like Hasbro and repaints/reissues all the Target figures into the ground, as they do. Right now I'm collecting 90's Power Rangers and deluxe Superhuman Samurai figures. At least when something's hard to find from those lines, it's because pieces got broken or lost over time, so there's an earned rarity. Also the pieces that do exist are extra special because they survived rough play and/or were pieced together using replacement parts from multiple broken figures. That right there is worth more to me than some bullshit exclusive that sells out in 15 seconds. Also it takes a special kind of greedy scumbag to sell something at a 5x markup and still charge extra for shipping. At that price they should be including free overnight shipping.
Powercon confirmed the overwhelming number of orders for these items was only for 1 of them or 1 of each. Very few orders was seen of the max 3ea of the items. This is not an issue of scalpers, it was an issue of Mattel and Powercon not realizing the how many people were interested in the exclusives this year compared to previous years. These are "exclusives," if the numbers were made to where everyone could get one it wouldn't be a very good exclusive or collector items.
But this line didn’t start as an exclusive line it was a well priced line with almost everything easily available now it’s gone down the exclusive path it’s impossible my kids got into this line because it was in the shops readily available to buy it’s not just collectors that miss out it’s kids your kids who you get invested in this.
@@neitherhereorthere7131 Hordak and faker already exists in the line. Horde Trooper and Grizzlor will eventually get made. The power con exclusives are just variants of what is and or will be made in the toy line outside maybe the spirit of Grayskull. Variants are for collecting
Honestly....I'm done. The last ten or whatever months of trying to complete this line has been a total nightmare. I'm cancelling my Castle Grayskull preorder(that's been delayed shipping since Feb, now says august)and the next wave I have preordered. Fuck it, the artificial scarcity is the last straw. Whomever is responsible for this shitshow can SUCK IT.
I totally forgot to check powercon's website. I got a notification from Bigbad but then I saw the markup and I didn't feel like it. And that sour mood made me forgot to check the powercon source. 😑
Power”CON” claimed they didn’t know the numbers of exclusives, I just got an apology email from them stating although they had the same number of exclusives as last year they sold out faster… So they do know how many exclusives they were selling, how about sharing that number with us Power”CON”?!
They spent the last 2 years getting people into this brand/line. People were able to get them in their hands, hype has been building and love for collecting the line.. and boom never enough exclusives. HOWEVER.. take a look at the new reveals. Lords of Power Merman and Beastman.. They are all but telling everyone that they WILL make these available in the the regular line down the road. They just need something fresh and exclusive for the con. People need to relax a bit here on this one honestly.
I got shut out to. Same story. When i got in it was sold out. There are 2 rules about my collecting, number 1 - i collect to complete, number 2 - i dont pay scalper prices, so i am genuinly ending my collection, will be on ebay by the of the week. Im going to get back to collecting motuc and forget this fisher price looking crap. Cheap empty plastic - mcdonalds toy quality. $30 and sold for 130 on the same day? How is this collecting?! One person can buy limitless amouts? Total amatures. Even toy shops set limits to make sure everyone gets a chance. Scummy cheap bottom feeding robbing lower than a snakes belly amatures.
SOOO UPSET!!! Went to my kids grad mass 10 then got online at 11 central and all gone. Not even Horde Zombie He-man sold that fast in 2019. Come on Mattel, make more. As it is you can’t even find any at stores!
I’ve luckily ended up with ROE and the Faker exclusive but I completely agree with you. This exclusive shit has become a massive pain in the ass and it’s shutting a lot of the fans out who really want to enjoy some fuckin’ MOTU. Why is that so hard to grasp?
Hatter... mate... you're everything with your rants- even though it sucks for you- but you speak our minds on the "collecting chaos". Also, I don't know if we'd want a Harvey Dent because he lived long enough to become the villain, which in our case would be a flipper. But we do need a hero!
It's the Castle Greyskull thing that really seems screwed up since Mattel is trying REALLY, REALLY hard to get people to buy that $80 piece of Plastic (Vehicles and upcoming beasts have "Pieces" of the castle as stands, those Gargoyle that climb the walls in the art, Vehicles can connect to flag point, etc.) So while the "Armor" is going to be released as a single ("[They] didn't put in the foot pegs in the castle for JUST an exclusive" they've already said) the extra pieces of the castle don't really have an avenue for rerelease (Unless Mattel brings back Matty collector or Mattel's version of Hasbro pulse) Since the Horde 4-pack is going to show up at regular retail in singles (Hordak, Grizzlor, and (Grey) Horde Trooper are already confirmed by MOTU team at Mattel). And Dupli-Cat and Faker are Blue therefore WalMart Exclusive rerelease
Man I'm sorry that you couldn't get these. I did manage to get these at BBTS. I went there first and saw they were up and jumped on it immediately. Of course like many others, I didn't expect an instant sell out. I complained a bit online about the higher prices but after finding out so many people missed out, I guess it was worth it. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem like any more are going to be made. The one positive is many of these figures will probably get a retail release sometime in the near future. I don't get why anyone would buy something from someone on eBay when the item won't even be available until September at the earliest. Those people could just be taking their money and never actually getting the products.
Since the pandemic action figures have been skyscraper since then . So many new people got into collecting. Toy makers just don’t want over production of stuff
I've never, in my entire life, understood the concept of exclusives in the first place. Well, actually, that's not true: I know _why_ they exist. It's to get people through the door, using the mail order service (back in the day), or onto the website. But with their ridiculously low numbers, scarcity (depending on what shop they're in, you might as well live on another planet), they've always been a total finger (or two fingers, as I'm a Brit) to collectors. Transformers Wiki answers the question for why exclusives exist succinctly: "Because God hates you and doesn't want you to have toys."
This collecting thing is getting ridiculous...hasbro,with cobra island,neca,mattel...this is bullshit, I stop buying period. No more exclusive for me they can have it...I move on and collect others things...
@@dubblewokad Not much more? Individually carded the 4-pack would retail at $60. Power-Con charged 150% more, then BBTS increased to a total of 275%. That’s a significant difference.
@@grabberorange It's a Con Exclusive. It's a low print run.. to make less figures cost more to produce. To buy all from the PowerCon site was about $300.. to buy all from BBTS was about $350. To wait until the tooling they aren't going to waste is made into regular line wave in a year is $16 each. People need to relax. This is something special for the event. So yeah.. not much more.
@@dubblewokad you and your about/ approximates, give me some exact numbers. Maybe you should relax wasting time defending a company that doesn’t give a shit about you lol Faker, Dupli-Cat says it the name itself. They’re copies, no excuse for tooling. I’m fine with the single card faker to be released. And I got my figures for $14.99 not $16. So yeah...
Your reviews aren’t why I subscribe. I am bummed that my boy didn’t get something he wanted tho. Your realness and commentary is stellar! So buck up and get that milkshake and get you and wifey some power-con tix because flipper frank will have some fantastic shit to say at the con! POWER-CON needs your POWER-COM ! 🤙
This made me so F#@%ing angry! I tried loading the page as soon as they were about to open and it wouldn't load at all. Completely broken! I actually didn't know that BBTS was taking orders at the same time or I for sure would have gone with them. This was easily one of the most botched pre-sales that I've ever seen. The one that makes me the most angry is the Secrets of Grayskull pack. That's kind of needed to complete the Grayskull playset. It should have never been an exclusive in the first place! Mattel had better make more of these because it was horribly mishandled and they've only succeeded in p#@%ing off a lot of customers.
the good news is that they are doing last years exclusive LOP in regular release now with different decos...... so maybe they'll come out with all of these just slightly different and not in the fancy packaging.
Hatter, the exclusives should all have a preorder window either a week or a month. It works generally. It is the best solution to feeding the scalpers and forced scarcity of the store front s. I would still prefer to hunt for the thrill and to keep people employed. Keep the faith:)
my wife and I had 4 devices , 2 on charter net and 2 on verizon and the first second the screen showed up for us after 30 minutes of literal nonstop reloading pages, sold out. whaaaaaa ? i didnt want any extra , just trying to get 1 set but...... at least got it right off the bat from BBTS. and I was getting that as a just in case, I was going to cancel it if i got the cheaper order on power con.... I know, I should just be thankful i got a set even if it was 80 more dollars through the store.
I had that god damn accessories set in my shopping cart for BBTS but I was greedy and went back for the Faker. Once I added the faker I noticed the accessories set was sold out God damn it. But can we talk about this mark up at BBTS. Holy fuck balls
I was refreshing the link from 10:39am and then at 11am the F@#$ing crashes, I kept refreshing the link till 11:45am!!!!! everything was sold out when I was able to connect. 🤬🤬🤬
Yeah that’ll be it I guess I’ll just spray paint all mine army colors and give them to little kids. Thanks Matty you messed this line up as well this line up to if they do it’s to multi-verse I’ll just quit collecting all new stuff go to vintage online and custom
i came across aNECA diaroma video and the guy had a cartoon april O'Neal but she had a Cats head and she had a cat tail. Are these extras we can buy because it looked to professional to be homemade.
I gave up on trying to get this kind of thing back in the days of Mattycollector. Sat there refreshing the site over and over the day the Classics Battlecat was released, and it went from not yet available to sold out in one refresh. My interest in collecting the Classics line was put on indefinite hold that day. More power to those who can get it to work and actually walk away with something for their collection, but to me, it's just not worth the stress or disappointment. Hopefully something changes soon in the industry to make things more accessible to everyone.
I was on the fence about whether to try to get the Faker/Dupli-Cat set. By the time BBTS sent me the pre-order email, they were already sold out. Guess they decided for me! :P
That was so lame. I was waiting also and I couldn't get my screen to stop glitching. When I did I thought it was going to let me get them but my cart was empty everytime after I added. I refuse to pay the extreme mark up and I guess I will have to go without this time. Seems like super 7 is the only ones who have their shit together.
I landed an accessory set on the site around 12:30. It kept saying sorry no more but I kept adding to cart and it finally went thru. Shipping to east coast was $22 so same total as what BBTS was charging.
I got through BBTS, the shipping is $41 on the horde pack, so spending $20 more totally to not have to pay until August is worth it. I did not get the Grayskull Accessory pack, I'll have to find someone
Yea there were a few up on ebay and already sold for 500 dollars. Whos out of there fucking mind to spend that and also don't know if they will get it all way in september. Your ebay money back garutee will end before that!
i was soooo pissed about this goddamn shit i went out and killed myself mowing the lawn in the muggy heat. My wife "the angle sent from heaven that i clearly dont deserve" on the other hand, had 2 P.C's open. She had 1- faker/ dupli-cat and 1- Spirit of Grayskull. Had it in the cart, and just payed for it! and it vanished Into Thin fucking air!!! She help us prepare for this B.S. a week in advance and we still got screwed. So the quick thinker she is she quickly went to B.B.T.S and managed to secure one of each of those things there. This is ridiculous and totally unnecessary and it's taking the fun out of all of collecting. there's nothing fun about stressing out and jumping through unnecessary hoops. Anyway we wound up just hanging out and getting drunk together. My wife, Son and i. And before anyone flies off the handle don't worry my son's he's 30 years old. So yeah we 3 love hanging out togeather. The stuff that my wife got was from her and I to our son. we've been helping him collect the origins line cuz he wanted a taste of what I had when I collected in the 80s. I wasn't really a kid anymore at the time but I still had fun collecting the line. Hang in there Maddy, you got a great group of people in this comments sections. my wife and I love being a part of your community, and one last thing and very important! much love and a shout-out to "the Maddie wife"💜
It’s not cool this line was doing really well until they introduced exclusives now the likely hood of getting these figures without paying extortionate amount from eBayers is impossible.
You’ll score one or two or all of them…you seem to always get the HTF stuff. I’m still hunting the TMNT 4 pack and I literally have 4 people looking in 3 different states. 🙄
Dude!! I will never get used to the insane scalp prices 😂 (It’s so infuriating to the point I just laugh...now I understand the Joker lol) I wonder if these are being sold and bought by the same scalpers just to establish a price on the secondary market? 🤔
I already get my heart Brocken from NECA, I can’t live with another heart ache. Not going to even try to collect MOTU. “Mattel you did this, I’m nothing without my toys.” Lol. Love your videos!! 👍🏽💪🏽👌🏽
There no power in power con! Site was terrible worst than neca! These are the reasons why i hate exclusives,why not just make made to order so anyone can get it,or they are just hyping it,if thats the case well be aware of its backlash some are getting tired of this kinda set up before they knew it more and more of their toys will end up peg warmers and wil only be sold due sale/mark down prices,believe me this will come.,cause with their currently releasing 3 motu versions Origins Masterverse Cgi Things will shift
@@leekingsnatch3228 you mean the scalpers? Thing is, fans dont list their figures on ebay for 5 times the price they just bought it for - scalpers do that. And idiot companies make it so easy for them to do it. Limitless quantities and most people being locked out until they are sold out? Thats not life - thats bad business. I bet alot of people stop collecting origins because of this. And that is why lines die. Right now some chubby sticky guy in his mothers basement will be expecting his 50 exclusives to sell on ebay - and thats 50 genuine fans who have to do without. 50 fans who have just been slapped in the face after supporting and investing to make the line work. There should have been a limit as to how many you could buy. Stupid mattel. Trying to grab attention while making unobtainable figures in the line.......stupid stupid stupid mattel. sooo... have a great night :-)
I can't believe everything is sold out, the Lords of Power set lasted forever on bigbadtoystore. Guess that's what I get for not being awake at 12 to even try shit
haha you haven't seen the previous site the remaded just a little while ago, now looks way better, i dont think they expected the mass amount of people wanting to buy this stuff, but yeah the site performed frankly bad, i wonder how many of them were on sale.... don't be pissed about it, exclusive are always hard and expensive to get
This is the stuff that made me change what I collect. It’s tiresome and as adults who have jobs I can’t run to stores all the time or early mornings to find things. It’s a real mess for almost every line. Super 7 is the only ones really doing this well.
Already sent u a message about this. But this was kinda defatting. I got the hoard set & copicat but I’m. Not happy because I paid more on BBToys. I was on @ 1050. Nothing hit refresh 5 minutes later... crash. For about a week & a half I prepped for this. Probably the only reason I knew BBTOYS was selling some. Again 2 outta 3. But not happy it went down like this. What’s new...
@@madhatterreviews6705 yeah but I wish this wasn’t the game. However I predict the suit, grizzlor (in light brown), maybe grey hoardak troops will get a regular release.
GAYYYYY... I was online 5 minutes early, could never get into the site.. kept crashing or going to a page with the rainbow SheRa character saying the page was updating. 30 mins before the page finally opened to the shopping part... This was freaking stupid. Same deal with the BBTS nonsense, they get them same time and mark them up!!.. stupid.. especially with the castle parts.. that is the dumbest part!!
Yeah hype dies, September comes, eBay floods with them, prices drop. Sucks to pay flipper prices.. so someone else is gonna have to pay that for me.. going to Target to get some more Major Bludds right now.. fuckers two can play these games!!
Dang I feel lucky I totally ordered last minute I got the attendee order and got my self 1 four pack and 2 of the faker packs and 2 of the secrets of grayskull packs I should have ordered more lol now I don't even want to open them
I tried for 40 minutes im on the East coast i couldn't beat the bots and tp just see them on ebay is telling me thats fans are not who bought these items they were purchased to resell.And as a fan i fell as you all do we got fucked
I am not collecting these but I feel your pain. I wonder where this industry is going. In the 90s, Image and Marvel pretty much made comics worthless and gimmicky (with variants covers and bonus material and other strange things). This eventually eliminated the speculator market (as these comics were overprinted and didn't have any value), the loss of demand made all comic-book publishers suffer from it and that is one of the contributing factors to Marvel going bankrupt. But with NECA and Mattel, this is not the case. They are not overproducing (afaik), and they are definitely selling what they produce. However... they are selling their stuff to people that get a big profit from it, and end up becoming their competition in terms of customer money allowance a month. Should I buy this Muckman figure or pay a scalper for the Turtles in disguise pack? I can imagine real people making these decisions. I don't think it affects NECA or Mattel too much, but I don't know... If I were working for these companies, I wouldn't like to see my products being sold for twice the money I sold them for, without getting a profit from that. In fact, should I increase the price, given that people are willing to pay that much? I don't think this will break the industry, but it will break the customers.
Great points
Exactly and if that’s the case many people will just stop buying altogether besides the scalpers and others who have that kinda money to burn
Thanks for making this video. I so pissed I don't even want to wait my energy with this topic!. I planned a week ahead of this day, went on to power con site at 12 noon as a non attendee. Didn't work, kept giving me error messages. Finally after 30 minutes I got in and all three exclusives were sold out. So was bid bad toy store after I found out through an email there now magicly up for pre order. And yep!. Sold out. Mattel you should be ashamed for this nonsense. And power con , you are unreal. And I'm sure those bot online orders did well. Thanks alot.
Same then when I did have the horde pack it said 800 seconds to count down that junkie ass site sucks
@@joshuastarcher4272 that sucks. Unreal!
For sure, really frustrating process
Toy collecting sucks. Exclusives, scalpers, poor distribution, insane aftermarket prices.
It's really mental illness at this point...from everyone involved. We need a vaccine.
I’m sick and tired of exclusives and scalpers taking all the fun out of collecting. It’s in every freaking line now. Just makes you want to quit the hobby.
yup, super annoying
Fully agree bro
I know this line was doing well and at a good price now we’re going down the exclusives path so I’m done with it as far I’m concerned the line is dead.
Even with working from home during the pandemic and having the ability to go to stores in my area frequently, I can't convey just how difficult it has been to purchase the Masters Origins figures. I've witnessed stockers at Target being stopped by grown adults before the u-boat even makes it to the toy aisle in order to pilfer through the boxes for scarce items. I've searched store after store for certain figures, only to eventually find an abundance of particular figures at a local 'collector' shop for marked up prices. I tried to go to Big Bad Toy Store to no avail so as to order one of the exclusives, only to find that that the item sold out almost instantaneously- then see in the next moment, said items popping up on Ebay for grossly inflated prices. There is something wrong with product availability and distribution when basic characters like Orko can't be obtained for the regular price at which it is released without resorting to a scalper/flipper price online. To this day, I've yet to see the Keldor/Kronis pack or any of wave two at a physical retailer store, and many of the others I've only seen once. Aside from a peg full of He-Man and Skeletor figures, the allotted Origins space at local stores constantly stays empty.
Alas, I've collected various MOTU items over the years, but at this point, it is no longer enjoyable. The Origins figures that I did manage to obtain via retail store, I went ahead and put them up for sale on the Org marketplace. I'm over it- Mattel can keep it. The line is an in-store retail line in name only, intentionally reliant on artificial inflation and scarcity. There is absolutely no reason, why in 2021, if Mattel truly wanted everyone to purchase an item, to not be able to offer a means to do so. At this juncture, Mattel wants it this way. With as hard as the items are for an adult to obtain, a kid has no hope.
I feel ya
Agreed Brother!!! This exclusive game has gotten ridiculous indeed!
The argument is Power Con does not have to allow non-attendees these exclusives. I understand that and commend them for that, however they allowed people to order 3 of each exclusive. The real culprit in all this is Mattel. This was a key accessory/figure set for Castle Grayskull. I would like to think at the very least the space armor figure gets a single carded release. These brand marketing teams have to be secretive and leave fans in the dark. They are re-releasing some of their Lord of power figures that was a powercon exclusive last year, albeit with different paint apps.
This thing was a mess, On the Power-con site they said they never had instant sellouts before so everyone should be able to get one. Obviously they weren't paying attention to how the past year has been with scalpers taking and botting everything. I'm so glad I read through their Q&A beforehand cause at 9 I was on BBTS and was able to grab them no problem and they were up for about 10 minutes like you said. But I did want to order through Power-con and see what the price difference was but the site wasn't working for me at all. I did read on the Q&A that the shipping and handling charge was going to be crazy expensive because Mattel made their Con boxes huge this year and they even apologized in advance for the insane shipping price so I think thats why BBTS was charging $220, $80, and $50
I think today was the nail in the coffin for me. Between the rise of evil 2pack, the turtles in disguise 4 pack, Major Blood and this I've had enough. Just no point being involved in any of this anymore, it's not fun. This hobby is going down a path I know longer want to follow. I had a great run but all things must come to an end.
@Ray Ray couldn't agree with you more. Too many exclusives, I will never finish Origins. I'm out.
@@DerrickAntonio85 Totally. If these companies don't want our business, there are plenty of others that do!
The funny shit is when these companies say “What’s going on? Why aren’t we selling? What can we do to improve sales?” 🤦🏻♂️ Then they’ll pay some employee in marketing like $40/hr to figure out what we’ve been telling them for years!!
@@DerrickAntonio85- I guess the older you get the less patience you have. It's just time for a new hobby. No hard feelings but when the fun is gone it's time to move on.
Ia Super7 the only reliable toy company? I mean they done sold out of stuff and already put up additional pre-orders more than once over the last few months
I can understand exclusives at cons but the store exclusives have gotta go.
I could understand making repaints of current or future figures as powercon exclusives but Secrets of Grayskull is a must for everyone.
DAMN YOU MATTEL!!
Collecting for anything modern really sucks these days. With all the manufactured scarcity, scalpers, and product that's overpriced to begin with because of low production runs, it's just not fun anymore.
Even when I come across mass-released retail product that I like, there's a very small chance that I'll actually buy it. Why bother starting a new line that I know is going to have gaping holes? I've pretty much given up on the GI Joe Classified line for the time being until Hasbro starts acting like Hasbro and repaints/reissues all the Target figures into the ground, as they do.
Right now I'm collecting 90's Power Rangers and deluxe Superhuman Samurai figures. At least when something's hard to find from those lines, it's because pieces got broken or lost over time, so there's an earned rarity. Also the pieces that do exist are extra special because they survived rough play and/or were pieced together using replacement parts from multiple broken figures. That right there is worth more to me than some bullshit exclusive that sells out in 15 seconds.
Also it takes a special kind of greedy scumbag to sell something at a 5x markup and still charge extra for shipping. At that price they should be including free overnight shipping.
Powercon confirmed the overwhelming number of orders for these items was only for 1 of them or 1 of each. Very few orders was seen of the max 3ea of the items. This is not an issue of scalpers, it was an issue of Mattel and Powercon not realizing the how many people were interested in the exclusives this year compared to previous years. These are "exclusives," if the numbers were made to where everyone could get one it wouldn't be a very good exclusive or collector items.
But this line didn’t start as an exclusive line it was a well priced line with almost everything easily available now it’s gone down the exclusive path it’s impossible my kids got into this line because it was in the shops readily available to buy it’s not just collectors that miss out it’s kids your kids who you get invested in this.
@@neitherhereorthere7131 Hordak and faker already exists in the line. Horde Trooper and Grizzlor will eventually get made. The power con exclusives are just variants of what is and or will be made in the toy line outside maybe the spirit of Grayskull. Variants are for collecting
Honestly....I'm done.
The last ten or whatever months of trying to complete this line has been a total nightmare. I'm cancelling my Castle Grayskull preorder(that's been delayed shipping since Feb, now says august)and the next wave I have preordered. Fuck it, the artificial scarcity is the last straw. Whomever is responsible for this shitshow can SUCK IT.
Feel you man
I totally forgot to check powercon's website. I got a notification from Bigbad but then I saw the markup and I didn't feel like it. And that sour mood made me forgot to check the powercon source. 😑
Power”CON” claimed they didn’t know the numbers of exclusives, I just got an apology email from them stating although they had the same number of exclusives as last year they sold out faster… So they do know how many exclusives they were selling, how about sharing that number with us Power”CON”?!
They spent the last 2 years getting people into this brand/line. People were able to get them in their hands, hype has been building and love for collecting the line.. and boom never enough exclusives. HOWEVER.. take a look at the new reveals. Lords of Power Merman and Beastman.. They are all but telling everyone that they WILL make these available in the the regular line down the road. They just need something fresh and exclusive for the con. People need to relax a bit here on this one honestly.
I got shut out to. Same story. When i got in it was sold out. There are 2 rules about my collecting, number 1 - i collect to complete, number 2 - i dont pay scalper prices, so i am genuinly ending my collection, will be on ebay by the of the week. Im going to get back to collecting motuc and forget this fisher price looking crap. Cheap empty plastic - mcdonalds toy quality. $30 and sold for 130 on the same day? How is this collecting?! One person can buy limitless amouts? Total amatures. Even toy shops set limits to make sure everyone gets a chance. Scummy cheap bottom feeding robbing lower than a snakes belly amatures.
If the servers went down for 40 minutes, wtf bought them all? Sounds like bs to me… I love BBTS but they were part of the problem too 💯
SOOO UPSET!!! Went to my kids grad mass 10 then got online at 11 central and all gone. Not even Horde Zombie He-man sold that fast in 2019. Come on Mattel, make more. As it is you can’t even find any at stores!
Power Conned! They knew it was gonna happen!
totally lol
I’ve luckily ended up with ROE and the Faker exclusive but I completely agree with you. This exclusive shit has become a massive pain in the ass and it’s shutting a lot of the fans out who really want to enjoy some fuckin’ MOTU. Why is that so hard to grasp?
Well, on the bright side, everything selling out so quickly saved me over $200
True 😂
I was getting a little frantic for a bit thinking I needed those
but yeah now I’m up 200
Hatter... mate... you're everything with your rants- even though it sucks for you- but you speak our minds on the "collecting chaos". Also, I don't know if we'd want a Harvey Dent because he lived long enough to become the villain, which in our case would be a flipper. But we do need a hero!
hahaha thanks man, I didnt think about the whole two-face of it all but dammit, someone stop this madness!
Yep... I got screwed over too, only wanted the spirit of Grayskull
It's the Castle Greyskull thing that really seems screwed up since Mattel is trying REALLY, REALLY hard to get people to buy that $80 piece of Plastic (Vehicles and upcoming beasts have "Pieces" of the castle as stands, those Gargoyle that climb the walls in the art, Vehicles can connect to flag point, etc.) So while the "Armor" is going to be released as a single ("[They] didn't put in the foot pegs in the castle for JUST an exclusive" they've already said) the extra pieces of the castle don't really have an avenue for rerelease (Unless Mattel brings back Matty collector or Mattel's version of Hasbro pulse)
Since the Horde 4-pack is going to show up at regular retail in singles (Hordak, Grizzlor, and (Grey) Horde Trooper are already confirmed by MOTU team at Mattel). And Dupli-Cat and Faker are Blue therefore WalMart Exclusive rerelease
Worry not! The "power" is in your heart, not in earthly plastic!
hahahah
You are so right😢
And to make/complete castle Grayskull pack as an accessory pack/exclusive is insulting
Man I'm sorry that you couldn't get these. I did manage to get these at BBTS. I went there first and saw they were up and jumped on it immediately. Of course like many others, I didn't expect an instant sell out. I complained a bit online about the higher prices but after finding out so many people missed out, I guess it was worth it. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem like any more are going to be made. The one positive is many of these figures will probably get a retail release sometime in the near future. I don't get why anyone would buy something from someone on eBay when the item won't even be available until September at the earliest. Those people could just be taking their money and never actually getting the products.
Since the pandemic action figures have been skyscraper since then . So many new people got into collecting. Toy makers just don’t want over production of stuff
In the FAQ list on PowerCon, it said BBTS was selling. I forgot until I saw it on Facebook and in my email.
I've never, in my entire life, understood the concept of exclusives in the first place. Well, actually, that's not true: I know _why_ they exist. It's to get people through the door, using the mail order service (back in the day), or onto the website. But with their ridiculously low numbers, scarcity (depending on what shop they're in, you might as well live on another planet), they've always been a total finger (or two fingers, as I'm a Brit) to collectors.
Transformers Wiki answers the question for why exclusives exist succinctly: "Because God hates you and doesn't want you to have toys."
I was waiting for flipper frank with an end credit scene. LOL!
....we need more Flipper Frank!!!
@@robd1329 I think he might be coming....
Artificial scarcity! I heard that the Louvre is exhibiting the Power-Con figures right next to the Mona Lisa.
This collecting thing is getting ridiculous...hasbro,with cobra island,neca,mattel...this is bullshit, I stop buying period. No more exclusive for me they can have it...I move on and collect others things...
I am most upset about the robot and spirit of grayskull. We should be able to get some version of that for our castle.
yepp
Annoying how these PowerCon Exclusives get marked up, then BBTS marks them up to an even more ridiculous price.
Not much higher than Power Con site when all said and done. Maybe $40-$50 more on BBTS for everything together.
@@dubblewokad Not much more? Individually carded the 4-pack would retail at $60. Power-Con charged 150% more, then BBTS increased to a total of 275%. That’s a significant difference.
@@grabberorange It's a Con Exclusive. It's a low print run.. to make less figures cost more to produce. To buy all from the PowerCon site was about $300.. to buy all from BBTS was about $350. To wait until the tooling they aren't going to waste is made into regular line wave in a year is $16 each. People need to relax. This is something special for the event. So yeah.. not much more.
@@dubblewokad you and your about/ approximates, give me some exact numbers. Maybe you should relax wasting time defending a company that doesn’t give a shit about you lol Faker, Dupli-Cat says it the name itself. They’re copies, no excuse for tooling. I’m fine with the single card faker to be released. And I got my figures for $14.99 not $16. So yeah...
Your reviews aren’t why I subscribe. I am bummed that my boy didn’t get something he wanted tho. Your realness and commentary is stellar! So buck up and get that milkshake and get you and wifey some power-con tix because flipper frank will have some fantastic shit to say at the con! POWER-CON needs your POWER-COM ! 🤙
hahaha, wow talk about a rallying speech! thanks for the support brother
This made me so F#@%ing angry! I tried loading the page as soon as they were about to open and it wouldn't load at all. Completely broken! I actually didn't know that BBTS was taking orders at the same time or I for sure would have gone with them. This was easily one of the most botched pre-sales that I've ever seen. The one that makes me the most angry is the Secrets of Grayskull pack. That's kind of needed to complete the Grayskull playset. It should have never been an exclusive in the first place! Mattel had better make more of these because it was horribly mishandled and they've only succeeded in p#@%ing off a lot of customers.
I'm fully with you friend, and for sure I won't go to Power-Con..
Dude I feel the same way and I'm pissed as fuck. Nothing nothing for what. Make more I need a ghost for my castle to.
the good news is that they are doing last years exclusive LOP in regular release now with different decos...... so maybe they'll come out with all of these just slightly different and not in the fancy packaging.
That would be sweet these were all dope as fuck
YEP.
It’s like they want the toy industry to implode. People are getting sick of this shit and are gona just walk away
It is ridiculous already. This crap doesnt happen anywhere else
Not enough, too many "gotta have it at any price" types support the scalping after market.
Hatter, the exclusives should all have a preorder window either a week or a month. It works generally. It is the best solution to feeding the scalpers and forced scarcity of the store front s. I would still prefer to hunt for the thrill and to keep people employed. Keep the faith:)
Gonna wait for this stuff to hit eBay in force. What a hassle.
my wife and I had 4 devices , 2 on charter net and 2 on verizon and the first second the screen showed up for us after 30 minutes of literal nonstop reloading pages, sold out. whaaaaaa ? i didnt want any extra , just trying to get 1 set but...... at least got it right off the bat from BBTS. and I was getting that as a just in case, I was going to cancel it if i got the cheaper order on power con.... I know, I should just be thankful i got a set even if it was 80 more dollars through the store.
I did get a set from BBTS and from Powercon as well. I have the power!
I had that god damn accessories set in my shopping cart for BBTS but I was greedy and went back for the Faker. Once I added the faker I noticed the accessories set was sold out God damn it. But can we talk about this mark up at BBTS. Holy fuck balls
yeppppp
Same experience for me. Couldn't get anything. Very unrealistic for someone to not be able to at least get 1 of each.
I was refreshing the link from 10:39am and then at 11am the F@#$ing crashes, I kept refreshing the link till 11:45am!!!!! everything was sold out when I was able to connect. 🤬🤬🤬
Still easier to get than NECA TMNTs IMO
Mad Hatter, you are the hero we got, not the one we deserve, or however that goes LOL!
lol, thanks man! I wont let you down!
Had the same issue; it is ridiculous, but they want to create hype.
The BBTS pre-orders sold out within minutes and I was very fortunate to pre-order all 3 sets through them
Yeah as soon as I got shut out of powercon I tried going on big bed toy store and Bam completely sold out
Yeah that’ll be it I guess I’ll just spray paint all mine army colors and give them to little kids. Thanks Matty you messed this line up as well this line up to if they do it’s to multi-verse I’ll just quit collecting all new stuff go to vintage online and custom
i came across aNECA diaroma video and the guy had a cartoon april O'Neal but she had a Cats head and she had a cat tail. Are these extras we can buy because it looked to professional to be homemade.
That’s a custom by a super talented dude named zelu1984 if it’s the one I’m thinking of
I gave up on trying to get this kind of thing back in the days of Mattycollector. Sat there refreshing the site over and over the day the Classics Battlecat was released, and it went from not yet available to sold out in one refresh. My interest in collecting the Classics line was put on indefinite hold that day. More power to those who can get it to work and actually walk away with something for their collection, but to me, it's just not worth the stress or disappointment. Hopefully something changes soon in the industry to make things more accessible to everyone.
Flipper frank didn't even get his hands on this shit!!!!
Unfluckinbelievable!!!! 😜
Lol I know!!
Flipper frank was on his off day
MOTU exclusives and tmnt exclusives G I Joe exclusives and transformer exclusives never last long why? Because the nostalgia 80s always rocks hard
I was on the fence about whether to try to get the Faker/Dupli-Cat set. By the time BBTS sent me the pre-order email, they were already sold out. Guess they decided for me! :P
That was so lame. I was waiting also and I couldn't get my screen to stop glitching. When I did I thought it was going to let me get them but my cart was empty everytime after I added. I refuse to pay the extreme mark up and I guess I will have to go without this time. Seems like super 7 is the only ones who have their shit together.
I landed an accessory set on the site around 12:30. It kept saying sorry no more but I kept adding to cart and it finally went thru. Shipping to east coast was $22 so same total as what BBTS was charging.
Same here
How depressing. Mattey inflicts more anger and pain again to collectors.
for me there is no different to the retail figures....both im not able to get, thx mattel
hate how this is handled! sucks every time! just make more, keep collectors happy. 😏
I got through BBTS, the shipping is $41 on the horde pack, so spending $20 more totally to not have to pay until August is worth it. I did not get the Grayskull Accessory pack, I'll have to find someone
No more opening song?
Used the short one this time Jsut to keep it quick haha
Yeah I agree with you! Complete crap! Scalpers win again! All I wanted was the spaceman set.
Super7 do a better job having a 1 month window... They need to get the IP back....
Yea there were a few up on ebay and already sold for 500 dollars. Whos out of there fucking mind to spend that and also don't know if they will get it all way in september. Your ebay money back garutee will end before that!
Money saved from this equals Hatter buying more turtles. Your loss Mattel.
hahaa, the silver lining!
i was soooo pissed about this goddamn shit i went out and killed myself mowing the lawn in the muggy heat. My wife "the angle sent from heaven that i clearly dont deserve" on the other hand, had 2 P.C's open. She had 1- faker/ dupli-cat and 1- Spirit of Grayskull. Had it in the cart, and just payed for it! and it vanished Into Thin fucking air!!! She help us prepare for this B.S. a week in advance and we still got screwed. So the quick thinker she is she quickly went to B.B.T.S and managed to secure one of each of those things there. This is ridiculous and totally unnecessary and it's taking the fun out of all of collecting. there's nothing fun about stressing out and jumping through unnecessary hoops. Anyway we wound up just hanging out and getting drunk together. My wife, Son and i. And before anyone flies off the handle don't worry my son's he's 30 years old. So yeah we 3 love hanging out togeather. The stuff that my wife got was from her and I to our son. we've been helping him collect the origins line cuz he wanted a taste of what I had when I collected in the 80s. I wasn't really a kid anymore at the time but I still had fun collecting the line.
Hang in there Maddy, you got a great group of people in this comments sections. my wife and I love being a part of your community, and one last thing and very important! much love and a shout-out to "the Maddie wife"💜
What do you think you'll be reviewing next?
Hunting that Major bludd and Gecko so hopefully doing those next!
@@madhatterreviews6705 Nice! I wouldn't mind more Super7 reviews either!
It’s not cool this line was doing really well until they introduced exclusives now the likely hood of getting these figures without paying extortionate amount from eBayers is impossible.
You’ll score one or two or all of them…you seem to always get the HTF stuff.
I’m still hunting the TMNT 4 pack and I literally have 4 people looking in 3 different states. 🙄
Hopin we both get lucky!
Dude!! I will never get used to the insane scalp prices 😂 (It’s so infuriating to the point I just laugh...now I understand the Joker lol) I wonder if these are being sold and bought by the same scalpers just to establish
a price on the secondary market? 🤔
Sick of these exclusives that are impossible to get without busting a wallet in half!
I already get my heart Brocken from NECA, I can’t live with another heart ache. Not going to even try to collect MOTU.
“Mattel you did this, I’m nothing without my toys.” Lol. Love your videos!! 👍🏽💪🏽👌🏽
Seems like Super7 is definitely catering to the fans tho, regardless if they’re stuff is more pricey at least we know they literally have our backs
@@antoniomontana2034 I agree! Even though it takes a little longer to get, but I can wait knowing that they restocked. 👍🏽
How much was this set??
150 for the 4 pack, 60 for the faker one and 30 for the grayskll set
@@madhatterreviews6705 i would have gone for it....too bad most of money went on Neca crap and regular Origins figures
There no power in power con! Site was terrible worst than neca! These are the reasons why i hate exclusives,why not just make made to order so anyone can get it,or they are just hyping it,if thats the case well be aware of its backlash some are getting tired of this kinda set up before they knew it more and more of their toys will end up peg warmers and wil only be sold due sale/mark down prices,believe me this will come.,cause with their currently releasing 3 motu versions
Origins
Masterverse
Cgi
Things will shift
Just another example that Super 7 is the only company that really wants the fans to be happy ! Super 7 forever !!!!
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This
Super7 rules
The fans that got their figures from Power-Con 2021 are happy. You win some and you lose some. That’s life. Have a great day.
@@leekingsnatch3228 you mean the scalpers? Thing is, fans dont list their figures on ebay for 5 times the price they just bought it for - scalpers do that. And idiot companies make it so easy for them to do it. Limitless quantities and most people being locked out until they are sold out? Thats not life - thats bad business. I bet alot of people stop collecting origins because of this. And that is why lines die. Right now some chubby sticky guy in his mothers basement will be expecting his 50 exclusives to sell on ebay - and thats 50 genuine fans who have to do without. 50 fans who have just been slapped in the face after supporting and investing to make the line work. There should have been a limit as to how many you could buy. Stupid mattel. Trying to grab attention while making unobtainable figures in the line.......stupid stupid stupid mattel. sooo... have a great night :-)
Same as signature April. Sold out in 2 mins. Kinda bs with these flippers man
I can't believe everything is sold out, the Lords of Power set lasted forever on bigbadtoystore. Guess that's what I get for not being awake at 12 to even try shit
If anyone needs customs done . I make them. Turns out you can switch G I Joe. N wwe action figure can interwork with each other but only the Elite.
haha you haven't seen the previous site the remaded just a little while ago, now looks way better, i dont think they expected the mass amount of people wanting to buy this stuff, but yeah the site performed frankly bad, i wonder how many of them were on sale.... don't be pissed about it, exclusive are always hard and expensive to get
Don't tell people what they should pissed about!
Sounds like their in cohoots with Neca!
This is the stuff that made me change what I collect. It’s tiresome and as adults who have jobs I can’t run to stores all the time or early mornings to find things. It’s a real mess for almost every line. Super 7 is the only ones really doing this well.
100% brother
100%???lolol the prices for super 7 doubled lmfao
Already sent u a message about this. But this was kinda defatting. I got the hoard set & copicat but I’m. Not happy because I paid more on BBToys. I was on @ 1050. Nothing hit refresh 5 minutes later... crash. For about a week & a half I prepped for this. Probably the only reason I knew BBTOYS was selling some. Again 2 outta 3. But not happy it went down like this. What’s new...
Yup, but grats on grabbing at least something man!
@@madhatterreviews6705 yeah but I wish this wasn’t the game. However I predict the suit, grizzlor (in light brown), maybe grey hoardak troops will get a regular release.
GAYYYYY... I was online 5 minutes early, could never get into the site.. kept crashing or going to a page with the rainbow SheRa character saying the page was updating. 30 mins before the page finally opened to the shopping part... This was freaking stupid. Same deal with the BBTS nonsense, they get them same time and mark them up!!.. stupid.. especially with the castle parts.. that is the dumbest part!!
Also why wasn't it limit of one??.. atleast 2/3s more people would have got them.
Yeah hype dies, September comes, eBay floods with them, prices drop. Sucks to pay flipper prices.. so someone else is gonna have to pay that for me.. going to Target to get some more Major Bludds right now.. fuckers two can play these games!!
Dang I feel lucky I totally ordered last minute I got the attendee order and got my self 1 four pack and 2 of the faker packs and 2 of the secrets of grayskull packs I should have ordered more lol now I don't even want to open them
So did neca get back to you🐢
Oh god no
I tried for 40 minutes im on the East coast i couldn't beat the bots and tp just see them on ebay is telling me thats fans are not who bought these items they were purchased to resell.And as a fan i fell as you all do we got fucked
Flipless Frank
lol
Lol not surprised
Complete BS!!!!!!!!!!!
😕😕
Now it’s a real hobby lol
Ebaybee.