Oroville Update 5th of July- Blasting Halted!
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Have no idea why this interest me so much but still wait on your regular updates thanks for the cool videos
John from Australia
rustbucketmokes There's millions of lives at stake downstream. Most relying on solid management procedures, for their livelihood.
All this in the hands of beaurocrats. That's why I'm interested. Praying God takes control.
Same for me)
Hello from Belarus!
Ditto and Kia Ora Cobber :)
Still watching from Wales...don't know why really....
Juan Brown is the answer. Dude is real. I'm sure most of us are thinking about the subjects we WISH Juan would cover for us. Juan is a pilot, good job, nice man. I would Love coverage of taboo subjects by Juan. No need for him to risk his job. So, let's just enjoy real coverage of at least 1 subject in our Lives. Thanks Juan !
It's late and forgot to add that I've been following your videos going back to, if not before, the emergency declaration and evacuation earlier this year. Also appreciated some of your travel videos, and explaining how your new video equipment improves the video quality and thus our viewing experience. Well done.
I've worked construction for 30 years now. Mostly has a heavy equipment operator. Those drill rigs make a lot of noise and it is very obvious to when they are drilling their current location. So so was the blast result of explosive placement at the wrong place, improper amount of explosives, i.e. to much, or was the rock weaker in that area resulting in a over blast. How did this get missed in the checks and balances of "controlled blasting". Great job continue the good work
Me too, Donald. I'm an operator also and been around a lot of shooting but doesn't it sound fishy to you about an 'unauthorised shot' on a project this BIG?? Me thinks there is a deteriorating rodent close by. Nobody would be shooting anything unless all the 'I''s were dotted and 'T's crossed. No jackleg blasters would be anywhere NEAR this project.
My guess would somebody reading a document wrong, and not being questioned by those that thought something wasn't quite right.
Probably someone higher up that has a quick temper.
Why doesn't surprise me that this happened. These are the same kind of people in charge now that built this engineering Marvel in the first place
True enough but as goofy as everything is, certain people would hate to let a crisis go to waste, even if they had to make one, and this gomm sure has the earmarks of a dandy if handled right/wrong.
I am sure a few days that the appropriate rotating medical practitioner will be put forth into the public eye to delivered a carefully scripted line of bovine excrement all the while obscuring the ocular receptors with the fleece.
If you're going to ask a question that refers to a document (FERC Report), then either quote the paragraph your referencing, or give the page number and paragraph number on the page. Otherwise, you allow DWR to weasel out of the answer by saying, 'I'm not familiar with the paragraph." I can't believe how poorly the "professional journalists" frame a question.
1:10 biennial 🙂
Thanks for another great update Juan 👍
"Vague answers to pointed questions…" LOL
Waoow flybys look nice in high res, gotta remember to hit HD.
If you've got an unlimited internet connection you go to into the youtube settings and tell it to always start in 4k ;)
c wired - It's not even a vague answer, it's no answer. 'Reviewing internal processes' just means there's some sort of miscommunication with the blasting contractor or lack of information. Should have followed up with more detailed questioning to drill down on these replies.
LOL Not certain our internet speeds but have that horder-kine disease where there are minimum 50 windows open at all times so if youtube is set on high res it'll often just spin its wheels. (must say tho, if you ever watch quality underwater kine vids def try the high res again!)
thnx for the vid Juan this has captivated me from the very start an i always look forward to ur updates. keep it up!!!
For Juan to fly over the dam and point things out, that's fun and games. But man, having to listen and participate in this very long government/media meeting seems like actual *work* . Thank you Juan for donating your time here to keep us informed.
Thanks!..it IS!
blancolirio thank you Juan.Hit me up next time you fly in to Dulles.
It will never cease to amaze me how quickly monumental infrastructure projects can be done when bureaucracy is pushed aside...thanks for keeping us informed!!!
Most projects which have spent millions of dollars have documented critical path schedules. Has it been made available?
Critical path? Blimey, that brought back memories of 1980s Production Management lectures. :D I doubt they'd release such a thing though, probably covered by the sensitive info thing.
1980's. ? Try 1960's. I think this is a "Get 'er done" schedule
Why don't they concrete the entrance to the spillway to prevent scouring?
Juan... Press #1 for Refill on Margaritas, SWEEEET Sounds from V12s Supercharged .... !!
I was going through Oroville update withdrawal symptoms! Thanks for the update Juan! Awesome as always.
Great footage from the vintage airshow. Loved the gooney bird fly by, I thought he was going to do a touch and go, he was so low! Comprehensive reporting on the Oroville situation as always, thanks for the video, Juan.
That wasn't a Gooney. A DC-3 has only 2 engines.
Correct, the announcer said it was a DC-4
OK guys, I stand corrected, I knew I should've watched it more than once, but it left me with the impression that it had been a DC-3; but upon closer (2nd look) examination, my mistake seems obvious; I remain impressed with the fly by nevertheless.
Great flying on the part of the Orion pilot! Gee that silver and blue B25 was beautiful!
Thanks for presenting the press conference. You show why the press conference is valuable to the public and the agency. The DWR person gave an evasive answer to your question and the full story only came out because a journalist asked a followup. That journalist did their job and read the public record communications from FERC to DWR, and held DWR accountable in a very polite manner. As a construction person, I know that the work must continue and mistakes are just part of the process as ;long as the team addresses the causes. With the time pressure and consequences of errors the project management team has an incredible management challenge. Sounds as if DWR and Kiewit are doing the right thing here with the QA/QC work. Transparency helps these projects "get it right" but it can be very uncomfortable for the participants in the moment.
Don't know how those workers manage in the extreme heat there. More great reporting Juan. :)
ChrisB257, they are all union, I'm sure the extra pay and benefits knocks off a few degrees.
Adult behavior really doesn't change much from when we were children. Do you remember when you broke something when you were a child and your parents asked who did it? Do you remember how quiet you got? ... Seems like the same thing is happening now. Finger pointing soon to follow.
Thanks for another great report Juan! "Vague answers to pointed questions" should be the subtitle! A question for next time is regarding the 8 additional cameras that were mentioned. Wondering about timing and whether public will be able to view them. There is a particular need for a camera that will show the plunge pool area.
mighty luscombe:)), I'm in so .ca. and we still have tiny tiny bit of snow in Palm springs. thx for the ride again
Sounds like the dwr has no clue on many of these answers. Another amazing job jaun. keep up the excellent work!!
Another great update, Juan, thanks for all your work.
I got a sense of "official double speak", as answers to the questions. It is encouraging that the mainstream media seems to be making an effort towards relevant questioning.
The "unauthorized' blasting issue, understandably, will be investigated, duh.
My question would be, "who" does the investigating?
It's is a fair assumption that a lot of people within the general contractor's, and the DWR upper management, had a "oh crap" moment, after learning about the "damage" caused by the unauthorized blasting. From my understanding, the blasting company, is a sub contractor working for the general contractor.
So, "who" allowed the sub contractor to assume blasting without 'authorization", was "ok"?
And , given the murky and obscure policy of deciding what information or details are released to the public (ultimately, the taxpayer), under the "security" justification, I'm not convinced that anything other, than a "CYA" narrative will be coming from any of the principles involved.
Juan, is doing a great public service, he is asking the questions that many of us want answered. He deserves the support from all of us who believe his work is worthwhile.
If I may suggest, perhaps more of us could get involved in helping Juan's efforts to get to the truth. For those who enjoy digging up facts and researching "connections", share your findings with Juan.
He's one guy, a private, concerned citizen, doing a better job, in my opinion, that than the "pro's" working for the organizations of the mainstream media.
Maybe, more of us could focus on what is NOT being said, rather than what is coming from "official', PR sources.
Just my 2 cents worth.
Thanks Juan, love the updates and your reporting.
Your question: "why did the blasting stop" was straight forward and her answer had nothing to do with what really happened. Do they know how bad this makes them look? She was lying. I wouldn't trust anything she says .... because when she was asked a very obvious straightforward question, she lied and gave some bullshit answer about some internal communication issues. Fake response. Fake news. Lying. Your problem, Juan, is that you are a nice guy and need to be more cynical (and of course, I don't want you to do anything of the sort - in fact, please don't change, the world needs more of you !!).
It wasn't until the next guy asked the same question ..... the SAME question you asked (and she knows that too !) but obvious that person knew some additional details ... and the TRUTH came out. Basically, someone made a pretty big blasting mistake (place/amount/depth - whatever) and caused some damage on the upper spillway. She should have started with this information in response to your question because it's the truth. Great question. Obvious answer. But you assumed that she wasn't going to lie to you.
Of note, I get the same type of half truths from my 15 year old. He understands it's lying. The major difference with my son is there are consequences when he is caught lying. In her case, you can only assume she/they will continue to lie.
it's amazing how far aircraft had advanced from Wright Bros to the onset of WWII... just amazing ..
Yes!
A shame that it seems to take conflict to really kick development further forward, but there ya go, that's us humans eh?
Thanks for the great videos, Juan! And for introducing so many to Aram's music. :)
Still the only REAL coverage of Oroville. Thanks for all of your efforts.
Juan, they always hesitate when answering your questions. Unauthorized blasting?? Backfilling? Not on confirmed plans yet... Tap dancing...
Juan you are the best at everything you do! Thanks again, great video! 🇺🇸✈️
Those long pregnant pauses say a lot!
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Biennial = every two years
Semi-annual = twice a year...
bi·an·nu·al
ˌbīˈany(o͞o)əl
adjective
adjective: bi-annual
occurring twice a year.
sem·i·an·nu·al
ˌsemēˈany(o͞o)əl,ˌseˌmīˈany(o͞o)əl
adjective
occurring twice a year; half-yearly.
You don't offer a term for every other year.
What surprises me is that the lake level has been maintained around 811-812 feet for several weeks now, with output from the Hyatt power plant cut to match summer lake inflows. If there is any chance that the delays could mean the lower spillway work may run past Nov 1 or the blasting damage to the upper spillway could impair its ability to handle 100k cps next winter then I think it imperative they use the summer to get the lake way down to
What a great airport to have an airshow at - doesn't look like a huge hoard (or maybe herd!) of people, and you are up close to the planes. Love the sound of the radials in the B-25 and DC-4 in their fly-bys, and the P-51s raise the hairs on my arms. That has to be a memorable experience strapping in and flying one of those birds. And as always, thanks for the great reporting and digging into those activities that other news agencies kinda gloss over!
Vague answers to pointed questions....lol. Great job as always Juan!
thx Juan
The biggest concern has to be getting this years construction to a point that should the spillway be used to an extreme, that new concrete infill, RCC and new spillways are not compromised.
Loved the brief glimpse of the older aircraft. Semi-annual refers to a twice-a-year occurrence, biennial is every two years.
Thanks for your info,your channel is MOST informative as I have friends and family who live below the dam.
Thank you Juan. Great reporting, the best!
I have had a big interest right from the start! I don't know why either! Tiger from Australia.
Juan, Are there any plans to line or repair the inlet to the spillway from the lake side to prevent the scouring effect on the inlet, which were such a major concern during low level water releases trying to keep the lake water level down.
not at this time...
2:10 Nice! Was that a short take-off for the DC-4?! Great shots of the fly-by, as well!
Thanks for the educational update.
That was a big airplane at a small airport, Wow!
Great Questions, Not so good answers.
Thanks for the Air Show Fly Bye's and Way to make a phone conference entertaining Juan!!!! 1 !!!! Can you add these questions to your infinite note pad for the next media phone conference please? How are the power plant turbine maintenance schedules coming along??? DWR had #1 in a rebuild phased scheduled for completion early this summer? Did they get the rebuilt parts back yet? and 2 more slotted for tear down and inspect about the same time this summer? Along with a turbine tube inspection????? Have they gotten a progress report or update on the turbine maintenance (#of) and (#of) repairs lately? I just thought someone should ask. Thanks again Juan for keeping em flying high. Stay safe and Peace Out.
Thanks Juan another great video. I LOVE the way you shared the meet with the fly-bys. That looked like a C47 or something and he was really close to the ground on his fly by. WOW, I'm used to the P51's doing that but not the big guys. All I can say is MORE please LOL
Juan.. you're the man! Thanks for your excellent updates.
I see an impressive job site busy with activity day and night - under the lights. My hunch is that the contractors, working under pressure of the November deadline, are likely ahead of schedule. The pace is too fast for the SLOTH of The State who conjured up (non-existent) "blasting issues" to the slooow the work down. ... been here many times before.
Thanks for the update & a great video "Blancolirio".......I'll be at the upcoming community meeting in Oroville July 17th . I hope they can fill in that big hole and tie into the upper spillway and still finish on time, I'll keep my eyes & ears open. Great info.......
Love the phone conference! Fifteen weeks to go and it's clear, they are working without a final design plan. The November 1st objective for a 100,000 cfs release is flat impossible, so we need to hear about a contingency plan in the case that lake levels rise beyond the ability of the Hyatt Power Plant's release capacity. Logically and mathematically - all the data indicates that the embankment will be unprotected during the upcoming wet season.
I agree with c wired. When you asked why the blasting was stopped, a straight forward question, why didn't they just say there was unauthorized blasting that damaged the upper spillway? Why did the major media ppl have to drag that out of them, referencing the letters to FERC? It just didn't seem very transparent, and that causes ppl to worry about" what else are they not telling us". Keep up the great reporting Juan!!!!
Another great report Juan! Love the conference calls. Thanks for all the great videos you post! Don't know where you find the time! Watching from Kentucky.
The sheriff is after you for stealing the show!! Great report again! Work past Nov !, well yes if the spillway is not needed or delayed with the RVOS and all SIX of the turBINES working which they are/were suppose to be working on. Staying tuned!
The news conference seemed to go pretty well. I did not see them dodging any questions, including the unauthorized blasting issue. I like that there is a plan to use the main spillway if needed before all the construction is complete. This was one of the better DWR news conferences I've listened too. Good questions, Juan, thanks for the flyover and you usual outstanding coverage.👍👍.
I have been fortunate enough to get a ride in both a C-54 and a B-25. They are absolutely incredible machines. The B-25 was louder than I could ever imagine inside, and the C-54 was incredibly smooth inside, very awesome airplanes.
I've spent a lot of time with pilots on military and civilian flight simulators and with other hardware-in-the-loop flight simulation systems over the years and I very much appreciate Juan's technical perspective on this process. Thank you, Juan, for sharing your concerns!
Bi-annual, Juan. Semi-annual would be twice a year. Great video, as always, and getting better. Your look after her reply to your question on blasting was LOL priceless.
Great work Juan! From your viewpoint in the air and conversations with the project managers, does it appear that 500 people working 6 days/week x 10 hours/day is enough to complete the work in less than 4 months? And is there a plan in place to add more resources to make up lost time due to the blasting incident?
The answer you got about the blasting, given you were the first to ask, was kind of dodge wasn't it? Their answer says that there is a certain aversion to admitting mistakes at DWR and/or their contractors. Damaging the upper spillway could be a serious problem and no one got a straight answer.
Love that pass with the old DC-4!
Bi-annual is every other year Juan.
Semi-annual is usually every 6 months.
LOVE your postings!!
Sometimes when removing material next to a permanent structure it's advisable to use expanding grout vs. explosives. I wonder if they have considered that?
Anyone know if DWR has published a Gantt chart showing the project timeline/milestones?
Thanks for keeping us informed Juan. Really appreciate it. This is the only ongoing detailed information I have found since our evacuation was announced. Love the flyovers!!!
Race against time, engineering, crop loss, government involved, great better than any TV. great job.
I have not heard anything about the 6th generator upgrade completion. I makes since to me that it would be on line before the next flood season.
howdy from Sacramento. thanks again for the awesome information and your hard work putting these pieces together.
Great job Juan as always.
How cool were those aeroplanes? Thanks Juan, I really enjoyed that clip...now to move on to the Oroville update (I may well comment again :) )
Blast it right?
NO DON'T BLAST IT.
10-4 commencing the blast.
Another great update. Every time I see an update the same thought comes to mind. "Oh my gosh, the expense."
Regulators and Inspectors. The reason the spillway needs to be replaced in the first place.
Kids... gotta love em...
Great video, as usual. Thanks Juan!
Juan Browne is the example for the new age of proper journalistic coverage , Cheers ! and thanks
Who doesn't love the sound of a Merlin!
Another great Job Juan. Thanks for keeping us up to date with the facts.
What does the project schedule look like? What were used to call the critical path method.
Juan,
Great info as always - thank you!
God bless
Paul
Juan, you're an international star! Excellent work!
Nice job with all you do Juan, Thanks.
Juan If blasting on the lower spillway has damaged the existing upper spillway, what is to happen next year when, aledgedly, the lower spillway is complete, and demo takes place on the upper spillway, possibly requiring additional blasting of bedrock up there? Will that upper spillway blasting possibly damage the now new lower spillway? Maybe someone needs to think that thru a little bit. Just saying........
good points!
Thanks for the great info, Juan. Great job.
LMBO!!! Love that look you gave when you asked the reason(s) why they stopped blasting and DWR gave you the typical vague answer... Classic!!!!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Risking washout of the new canyon roads sounds reasonable. 100cfs was about the highest they needed to run it, even after this record precipitation this last winter, and with no warning allowing them to lower the lake level in advance. So, assuming they have the new spillway done in time, 100cfs will probably be enough.
I agree.
thank you juan. you the best
Juan, would prefer you summarize the phone calls rather than have us listen to them. Thirty minutes is too long for an update. Thanks for continuing to cover this. Based on progress thus far, looks daunting for a November completion.
I think you're right. It was too long and painful.
Juan, that AVgas must have gold as a special anti-knock additive!
Price of regular car gas here in coastal NC. is currently $1.92 per gallon.
93 octane (premium) is $2.42 to $2.75, depending on the station.
And diesel is ranging from $2.19 to $2.43.
AV gas is 100LL that stands for 100 Octane low lead which in California is gold
Thank you, Juan, for another informative report.
Very informative. Thank you Juan.
Thanks Juan,
Really enjoy your Oroville dam series, your questions are great do you have an engineering and
construction background? Also enjoy your Luscombe flights. I have a restored 1957
Tri-Champ and fly and out of Santa Rosa.
Thanks again Juan ! The conference was noncommittal. . Its looking to me like this winter will be a repeat of last year ,they need to remove those roads by Dec. The Danish Maritime (DMI) Institute just reported the coldest July temperature ever recorded in the Northern hemisphere of -30.7°c, at Greenland summit on 7/5/17. Their graph on ice sheet thickness is also interesting and conflicts with the "model data " being aired by the IPCC.
Great airshow vids,was that a DC 4? I don't see many of them. Used to be a complete one sitting at Fairbanks airport. Take cae.
love your shows , you, and that Luscomb
Great work Juan , good questions . Enjoyed your intro clip of 2013 air fest. Is that a B-25 or B-26 , that's a nice looking plane and wow ,that DC-4 did a low fly over! Thanks for the update on all that construction work at Oroville Dam Spillway. Fall Season is in their rearview mirror! Good luck at this years Air Fest ,stay cool out there and enjoy the events.
Juan, questions for next time:
1. When is the emergency spillway work expected to be completed, including all of the secant wall, the buttress wall, and the RCC apron? If not by November 1st (as they've already stated), will work continue on that area this winter, or will it be taken up again next spring with a target completion of next winter?
2. How much, if any, of the lower spillway being done this year will have its final concrete surface by this November 1st? From what I gather (although I've yet to hear it said explicitly), it may be the bottom and topmost sections, maybe 40%(?) of what has been demolished. Or will it be none at all, and the entire thing will have only an RCC surface?
Another awesome video!!!! That air show was amazing to watch...The p 51 were very cool but the dc-4 pilot must have been one good pilot....Im thinking he/she was a fire retardent dropping pilot in real life...just a hunch...
Pressure is on with the spillway to get done before Novemeber...thx for keeping it real with the spillway updates....
That wiener walz was like: StRRRRAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS...followed by a very nice but sharp bank to the left....
Your videos are inspiring to watch. You have undoubtedly, as stated many times here, have effected change in fair, unbiased, responsible "Reporting/Journalism" across the internet as well as the "Main Street Media."
I am so impressed with your abilities to fly/pilot aircraft and the dedication to Aviation you display Juan.
You are multi-talented and obviously a really cool guy/Dad/Reporter/Pilot. Thanks so much for the continual updates Juan.
I very much enjoy your updates!
Bi-annual = every 2 years. (Bicycle)
Semi-annual = every half of a year. (Semi-Circle)
The terms have been confounded, where biannual has taken both meanings.
Has it been determined that the "aeration" design
will reduce cavitation and not intensify it?
How and with what material will the "humungous hole" be filled?
Is the overall gradient of the chute going to be changed, or will it be steepened
at some point as before, causing the flow velocity to increase from
("x"?) to ("y"?)?
Is 100K cfs enough?
Is the spillway design fully capable of handling 100K cfs?
What’s being done (repair, redesign) to the gates and the
spillway structure itself?
Was the alternative of a "humungous" splash pad/energy dissipator
considered, or will the final design retain an abruptly increased gradient to
handle the difference in elevation between the spillway and the bottom of the
ridge?
Were the P and S waves from both earthquakes and blasting thoroughly modeled or
calculated in the design process, and what safety factor was used in the new
(and old) design? Were harmonics and their possible/potential effects
considered and found irrelevant, or?
What geomorphic processes caused the existing fracturing of the "bedrock"
in the geologic past?
Does the integrity of spillway structure depend upon the bedrock continuing to
be forever stable (or throughout the useful life [what is it?] of the structure)?
Sorry if I missed it, but what kind of damage was done by recent blasting to
the remaining spillway structure? Is that structure to remain or be replaced?
Did the damaging blast exceed specification and/or was its location authorized?
What was/were the causal factor(s) of the damage?
Sorry for the dumb questions.
I've been watching your videos, especially the Oroville reporting. As usual, excellent job. Perhaps the "regular" media are finally getting their journalistic act together and actually beginning to formulate more intelligent questions than they have over the past several months. Who was filming the video from The Mighty Luskin? Hope I spelled that correctly. Thanks for the update and great job as usual!
Thank you again, Capt. Browne, for the fine reporting and fly-over. You are bringing "history in the making" as I wasn't around when the big dams were being constructed around the US. What an immense project/fix this is, and they only had one big screw up thus far: "unauthorized" blasting. What a mess, but at the same time, what an impressive work site.
I think you said work was starting at 6 AM. it should be no work from 1:30 PM to about 5:30 PM to miss the heat of the day. Use this time for inspections. This work could be 20/7. Thanks for the great REPORTS Juan.
Thanks again Juan for an excellent update.
Thanks for another great video, Juan. It's always nice to catch up on what's happening, since the pictures and videos from DWR aren't coming out as often.
I recall hearing some time ago from DWR that the project was "ahead of schedule". We haven't heard that lately and looking at the progress, I wonder if it's still on schedule and how they will possibly be ready for operation on November 1st. The spillway was turned off on May 21st. That allows just over 5 months. We're almost 2 months into the schedule and it sure doesn't look like they are making much progress. Sure, the bottom section is moving ahead, but it's relatively trivial compared to the massive areas where the erosion took place.
I know they won't make the plans public, but it would be interesting to see some engineering drawings.
The answers to the questions about the blasting issue were very vague, particularly about damage to the remaining part of the fco spillway.
I was surprised to hear that they will not lay down RCC in the part of the emergency spillway between the weir and the secant wall.