Every single point you made is exactly what I use chatgpt for. It is like having all my English teachers on hand to guide and critique my grammar and ideas, as well as provide some additional story ideas, arcs, incidents, and even dialogue. I find that I use it sparingly and go into the text and change it to be what I want it to be. But I can tell that it is a far better system and avoids the staring at a blank screen syndrome.
What's your stance on using ChatGTP for tweaks of grammar, flow, or clarity, and using it as a "better" thesaurus as long as it doesn't write or rewrite (includes changing the tone of a line) anything for you? And in the context that English is one's second language
This content hits home, subbed. I reluctantly logged into openai, paid a monthly fee for premium features and proceeded to drop in the unfinished novel that I started nearly a decade ago. The result was an editor, a co-writer, a beta reader, a producer, a small child interested in any generally new information, an old wise man with a vast library of knowledge, and a partner that just never gets tired. Using check GPT to create outlines, different charts, descriptions, just characterizing different aspects of the story and how things relate to each other and how things contrast each other is, like you say, 'invaluable'. Not a creator, but someone who's always open to answer any question about the content you feed it. Again, I mentioned I was reluctant about the whole thing but when something is good is good, and I give it credit. We thought the issue was authors bypassing artists for visuals. The true issue is artists bypassing authors for storytelling, plot twist.
This is how i have chat Gpt help me. I have it write me a list of 20-30 ways of what happens and if i like it, i use that for a writing prompt and come up with what i need like i have the races down, where the setting take place and write an entire chapter based on that and my hands hate it when i have it written on paper as i have what i have typed as i want it done and then take that entire thing and have chat gpt read my chapter to me and if i dont like it i rewrite it on paper and retype it. I usually take too long on writing a chapter as i like to plan it out
If I suck at writing but have finished stories in my mind. If I tell AI everything that happens, what the characters are thinking and what everything looks like, am I an author?
Honestly, idk. AI is a really fine line for writers. My advice you have to find what works for you and what you find acceptable. Personally, I believe for me to be a writer then I have to write all of the prose.
I would say you're the creator, it just takes the little bit extra of actually writing it from your own mind that truly makes you the author. AI is an incredible tool for small tweaks but it will never catch the thrill of the story or voice in dialogue - in essence it will neve capture the fire within the human soul.
Personally i think if i created the story, created the characters, the themes, the arcs, the premise, the world building, and the plot, i wrote it, regardless on who wrote the initial “draft” of the chapter. I’m not particularly good at putting the right words on a blank sheet of paper, so i use GPT to help me get that first draft of a scene on paper but meticulously change and edit things (sentences, words, emotions, themes) to look exactly the way i want it to. In my opinion, it’s a matter of using tools accessible to me to bring it to life. If you just gave it a sentence or two and let it go nuts or even go scene by scene giving it a premise and moving on without touching it, then maybe you’re leaning a bit too much but if you use it as more of a smart, unbiased collaborator, brainstorming and giving yourself a starting point but are clearly present in every sentence of a story, in my opinion (which i know is kind of a hot take) I don’t think it matters if you personally thought up every word. I think it’s pretty obvious if something was written solely by AI, and it definitely reflects in quality, but if you just use to to plot out a scene and go in and completely personalizing and making it your own, i think it’s really useful for bridging the gap and giving more people who may struggle with that the ability to tell a good story.
@darkarcmiley3388 I started letting the AI do all of the writing, but I've found I've learned more about writting and I now use the AI less and less. I mainly use it as my beta reader.
Spellcheck is the only acceptable reason to me. The rest of it you should simply know. I've got a series spanning 5 completed novels, 1 novella, and a sixth novel as a wip. I know how all the characters felt during situations. If I don't, I go back and reread it. And maybe its the infosec in me, but I never trust anything that says its not connected to the internet. Grammarly is an AI bot, but I only use it for spelling and some grammar, because it makes plenty of grammar mistakes.
Every single point you made is exactly what I use chatgpt for. It is like having all my English teachers on hand to guide and critique my grammar and ideas, as well as provide some additional story ideas, arcs, incidents, and even dialogue. I find that I use it sparingly and go into the text and change it to be what I want it to be. But I can tell that it is a far better system and avoids the staring at a blank screen syndrome.
What's your stance on using ChatGTP for tweaks of grammar, flow, or clarity, and using it as a "better" thesaurus as long as it doesn't write or rewrite (includes changing the tone of a line) anything for you? And in the context that English is one's second language
I'm not totally opposed but you've just got to be very careful. It's got to be a tool, not something for creation.
@@WritingQuest Exactly, I'm using it as a tool. To be precise, I'm using it to learn about my own writing
Brilliant. Thank you.
This content hits home, subbed. I reluctantly logged into openai, paid a monthly fee for premium features and proceeded to drop in the unfinished novel that I started nearly a decade ago. The result was an editor, a co-writer, a beta reader, a producer, a small child interested in any generally new information, an old wise man with a vast library of knowledge, and a partner that just never gets tired. Using check GPT to create outlines, different charts, descriptions, just characterizing different aspects of the story and how things relate to each other and how things contrast each other is, like you say, 'invaluable'. Not a creator, but someone who's always open to answer any question about the content you feed it. Again, I mentioned I was reluctant about the whole thing but when something is good is good, and I give it credit. We thought the issue was authors bypassing artists for visuals. The true issue is artists bypassing authors for storytelling, plot twist.
This is how i have chat Gpt help me. I have it write me a list of 20-30 ways of what happens and if i like it, i use that for a writing prompt and come up with what i need like i have the races down, where the setting take place and write an entire chapter based on that and my hands hate it when i have it written on paper as i have what i have typed as i want it done and then take that entire thing and have chat gpt read my chapter to me and if i dont like it i rewrite it on paper and retype it. I usually take too long on writing a chapter as i like to plan it out
The problem now with getting human editor is, a lot of them are just using AI now
This is totally fair, and unfortunate.
If I suck at writing but have finished stories in my mind. If I tell AI everything that happens, what the characters are thinking and what everything looks like, am I an author?
Honestly, idk. AI is a really fine line for writers. My advice you have to find what works for you and what you find acceptable. Personally, I believe for me to be a writer then I have to write all of the prose.
I would say you're the creator, it just takes the little bit extra of actually writing it from your own mind that truly makes you the author. AI is an incredible tool for small tweaks but it will never catch the thrill of the story or voice in dialogue - in essence it will neve capture the fire within the human soul.
Personally i think if i created the story, created the characters, the themes, the arcs, the premise, the world building, and the plot, i wrote it, regardless on who wrote the initial “draft” of the chapter. I’m not particularly good at putting the right words on a blank sheet of paper, so i use GPT to help me get that first draft of a scene on paper but meticulously change and edit things (sentences, words, emotions, themes) to look exactly the way i want it to. In my opinion, it’s a matter of using tools accessible to me to bring it to life. If you just gave it a sentence or two and let it go nuts or even go scene by scene giving it a premise and moving on without touching it, then maybe you’re leaning a bit too much but if you use it as more of a smart, unbiased collaborator, brainstorming and giving yourself a starting point but are clearly present in every sentence of a story, in my opinion (which i know is kind of a hot take) I don’t think it matters if you personally thought up every word. I think it’s pretty obvious if something was written solely by AI, and it definitely reflects in quality, but if you just use to to plot out a scene and go in and completely personalizing and making it your own, i think it’s really useful for bridging the gap and giving more people who may struggle with that the ability to tell a good story.
@darkarcmiley3388 I started letting the AI do all of the writing, but I've found I've learned more about writting and I now use the AI less and less. I mainly use it as my beta reader.
This would stunt writer's development and creativity.
Definite no for me.
Spellcheck is the only acceptable reason to me. The rest of it you should simply know. I've got a series spanning 5 completed novels, 1 novella, and a sixth novel as a wip. I know how all the characters felt during situations. If I don't, I go back and reread it. And maybe its the infosec in me, but I never trust anything that says its not connected to the internet. Grammarly is an AI bot, but I only use it for spelling and some grammar, because it makes plenty of grammar mistakes.