@404 TV Yes, it is. If you don't know, in 2002, the Hockenheimring organisers and Herman Tilke butchered and massacred this poor boy from high speed fun to boring race
@@johnpaularibowo1636technically it isn’t as the old hockenheim didn’t have the chicanes. They were added after the tragic death of Jim Clark in 1968 and then they added a chicane at the oustkurve after a crash there killed another driver in 1982. This chicane became the second and the original second chicane (named after Senna after his death) became the third chicane. And even before that before the track took the shape we know today before the 2002 rebuild it was 12km long and had a triangular shape.
Yeah really wish they did, or have tracks that have been in the calendar in the last decade at least. Licensing issues probably don't allow that, which is a shame
Esta versión del circuito de Hockenhiem no es la versión antigua ya que la verdadera versión es la que se uso hasta 1981 o sea con dos chicanas la chicana previa a oskurve no existía era todo una curva larga donde entre otros murió Jim Clark
I miss the old Hockenhiem. The long straightaways, the speeds they reach and the awesome layout of the track are all the matter the best Hockenhiem ring yet. I wish that section of the track was never left in the wilderness where the grass grew over the racing surface and remained open to the world of F1 and beyond the world of motorsport racing.
"Sakhir's outer circuit is an almost-oval..." The true Hockenheimring: "Ach! Am ich eine joke zu du?" And it was a stunning circuit! A very unfortunate loss, they could have at least kept the old sections as paths for a park and/or natural reserve in the sorrounding forest... But it actually seems everyone was too shortsighted to be able reaching such an agreement.
I'm taking a small break from practicing this track, and was curious to see the old layout. About 5 seconds after turn 1, I was completely and hopelessly lost as to where the car was on the track. MAJOR changes to this one's layout.
It would be nice to seeing a lap without the three chicanes. It’ll be interesting to see if the 2020 cars can take the Sudkurve (where the second chicane was) without lifting the acceleration pedal.
Not so interested in "without any chicanes" (bit boring tbh) but the 1970-81 (70-01 for motorbikes) layout, with no Ostkurve chicane (a chicane was first installed in 82, then changed in 92) and with the other two chicanes untightened (the first chicane was slowed in 82, the second chicane in 94) would be brilliant.
Great stuff! Where are all of these Old Tracks available for Assetto Corsa? And how do you place the newer F1Cars into these Assetto Corsa Tracks? Anyone with answers out there? Thanks!
Ngl this layout is really overrated like yeah ik its classic, but the layout is really boring, i prefer the new one tbh and tbh, the new one is much better and the new Hockenheim is on my top 10 favorite track list, the old layout is on my worst track list
This was the REAL Hockenheim!
i miss hockenheim :(
@404 TV Yes, it is. If you don't know, in 2002, the Hockenheimring organisers and Herman Tilke butchered and massacred this poor boy from high speed fun to boring race
@404 TV thx zoomer
Nobody wanted this! You do not know nothing about history!@404TVfr
@@johnpaularibowo1636technically it isn’t as the old hockenheim didn’t have the chicanes. They were added after the tragic death of Jim Clark in 1968 and then they added a chicane at the oustkurve after a crash there killed another driver in 1982. This chicane became the second and the original second chicane (named after Senna after his death) became the third chicane. And even before that before the track took the shape we know today before the 2002 rebuild it was 12km long and had a triangular shape.
I wish F1 games had different configurations of each track.
Yeah really wish they did, or have tracks that have been in the calendar in the last decade at least. Licensing issues probably don't allow that, which is a shame
Mitsos1311 also, no, the short versions of Bahrain, COTA, Silverstone, etc. in the game don’t count.
@@ChiChiWoo wish they'd put the layout of Bahrain they'll use for the second race this year in the game. It won't happen, but would've been cool
Esta versión del circuito de Hockenhiem no es la versión antigua ya que la verdadera versión es la que se uso hasta 1981 o sea con dos chicanas la chicana previa a oskurve no existía era todo una curva larga donde entre otros murió Jim Clark
@@Mitsos1311 imagine Nordschleife on F1 2020, it would be soooo great
I miss the old Hockenhiem. The long straightaways, the speeds they reach and the awesome layout of the track are all the matter the best Hockenhiem ring yet. I wish that section of the track was never left in the wilderness where the grass grew over the racing surface and remained open to the world of F1 and beyond the world of motorsport racing.
I'm pretty sure there's no racing surface anymore, they just destroyed it and planted trees over it
We love kimi
The older Hockenheim layout, the "Dreieckskurs" would be amazing, too....
"Sakhir's outer circuit is an almost-oval..."
The true Hockenheimring: "Ach! Am ich eine joke zu du?"
And it was a stunning circuit! A very unfortunate loss, they could have at least kept the old sections as paths for a park and/or natural reserve in the sorrounding forest... But it actually seems everyone was too shortsighted to be able reaching such an agreement.
Bist du deutsch?
@@martinklein2736 No, I just was imitating a thick German accent.
That's terrible German
Manusia Ganteng read the reply above yours
Deutsche Sprache, schwere Sprache
Shame what they done to the old circuit, they could maintain it and use for other categories of motorsport, at least the new circuit it's good
They couldn't. There is no money for the whole circuit.
Back then when F1 tracks had variety.
@404 TV ❤i mean you could say the same thing about monza and that circuit host some of the best races
This track is beautiful. Bring back old Hockenheim
It would be really boring in todays cars.
@@TravelwithPavel I don't think so.
it would be like racing in Monza.
Is Monza boring?
You could not bring it back easily. The old Layouts paving is removed.
Some news bud, it’s gone completely
Sadly they can’t convince the German government to cut forest down and have 2 variations
1:46 Slide Job!
s🅱️inalla
Great lap.
You would setup the car to go much faster than 334 km/h on the straights, even in 1995-1996 with the ~700 hp engines they approached 350 km/h.
yeah but they weighed like 500kg back in the day not like 1000 or something
@@thunderbolt_blitz And the aerodynamics weren't as intense as they are now.
2001 spec cars hit close to 360 km/h and 1'38 laptimes.
Imagine 2005 spec cars, which I believe, are the most powerful.
@@r.a.6459 *2004. The FIA cut some of the downforce in 2005 cars
So glad they redesigned it… now they just gotta get it back on the calendar!
I wished that the old Hockenheim circuit layout is still used today
Thats still the real Hockenheimring for me
I'm taking a small break from practicing this track, and was curious to see the old layout.
About 5 seconds after turn 1, I was completely and hopelessly lost as to where the car was on the track.
MAJOR changes to this one's layout.
Wie ich diese Strecke geliebt habe. Du schießt in den Wald rein und auch wieder raus und dann das geile Motodrom 👍
Kimi:bwoah speed!
It would be nice to seeing a lap without the three chicanes. It’ll be interesting to see if the 2020 cars can take the Sudkurve (where the second chicane was) without lifting the acceleration pedal.
Not so interested in "without any chicanes" (bit boring tbh) but the 1970-81 (70-01 for motorbikes) layout, with no Ostkurve chicane (a chicane was first installed in 82, then changed in 92) and with the other two chicanes untightened (the first chicane was slowed in 82, the second chicane in 94) would be brilliant.
Wasn’t it called the ostkurve
@@joemannari4545 Yes, it was. I’m getting my German tracks mixed up. Ta.
I miss this track ALOT
New Hockenheim: Sad Cry
Old Hockenheim: HAPPY CRY
The best Hockenheimring EVER.
@404 TV Ever heard of opinions?
@404 TV There aren't good or bad opinions most of the times.
@404 TV Your opinion is surely seen as a bad one by others, therefore there's no good or bad opinions (mostly).
I really miss this track... Lovely♥️
Kimi ..the living LEGEND!!!
Why hockenheimring old layout has been demolish?
I love this track so much 😥😥😥
The land isn't owned by them anymore
Someone gone to the real old Hockenheimring the ost curve was a banking
hring was in the black forest... There were much more trees outside the track....
hockenheim isn't in theblack forest mate
Great stuff! Where are all of these Old Tracks available for Assetto Corsa? And how do you place the newer F1Cars into these Assetto Corsa Tracks? Anyone with answers out there? Thanks!
1:46
Binotto: Pronto kimi
Raikkonen: si?
Binotto: S🅱️INNALA
Anteeksi. En puhu pizza.
Kimi: bwoah nu.
Can you do Hockenheim with the Banking
Que saudades dessa pista😓😓😓
Bring back old hockenheim
Its appalling that they completely covered it in grass. Why couldnt they just keep it like they keep the old oval at Monza
Because they cut down some trees to make the new parts, which they plant back more trees in the old layout
and now, without chicanes...
It's me or the video lags?
Personally I like old one more than new one
If some can do this...
MP4-20 on THIS exact circuit!!
...just don't try to flat-spot tyres, cos 2005 tyre rules are BS.
İs this cars DLC??
And tracks
No these are all mods added in to the game
thank you I'll check better
@@borainci8062 you can find the links to the mods in the description on _most_ of my videos
Thank you so much your videos are very good
this year's Ferrari dont like this circuit😆
I love the old Hockemheim. The current track is a shit. Thanks Tilke 🤦🏻♂️
@lol shit According with you of course.
@404 TV Your mother
Blame the F1, and to some extent, the FIA.
After all, Tilke just do what his clients demands
@404 TV man, I was just 4 y.o. when the track changed.
But yeah, those things influenced their decision to change the track
* drunk finnish sounds *
Boh, i think uuuuuhhh the circuit is too long
The track looksnlike an blimp the that is being destroyed
Ironic
*laughs in Hindenburg*
monza 2
Ngl this layout is really overrated like yeah ik its classic, but the layout is really boring, i prefer the new one tbh and tbh, the new one is much better and the new Hockenheim is on my top 10 favorite track list, the old layout is on my worst track list
@404 TV sorry lop
This track is so dull to drive on.