Lotta h8 in the comment, i for 1 appreciated this talk. The pace is a bit slow, but that's ok. I like talks that challenge the historical orthodoxy about things like the hapsburg empire of Austria Hungary. History is many things but it is rarely boring and obvious, especially applied to such a strange and complex entity as AH
Hello i wanted to know if Mr.Deak is going to write a book on the habsburg army with many photos like a photo history book also do you know of any DVD's on the habsburg empire that are worth watching my grandfather served in the 27th Laibach Regt. a slovene Regt. in ww1 please let me know Richard.
It takes ages to get going but some of the insights towards the end are fascinating. Nonetheless, I think that the speaker is whitewashing the Dual Monarchy to some extent and the untertone of his speech is that there were frictions between peoples within it.
Versus what? The 750,000 Americans who were killed by other Americans (more than all American casualties in all American wars combined) in a civil war that went down when Franz Jospeh had been ruling the dual monarchy for twenty years! Would you call that “friction between peoples” within America? How about the “fractions” between Americans and Native Americans? Compared to what? Ireland and Scotland and the Jacobite Uprisings and other insurrections against Great Britain? Great Britain’s own civil war where the King Charles Stuart I was beheaded? Compared to what? The French Revolution and the Reign of Terror and the war in the Vendee where something like 300-400k were killed (mainly Catholic rebels who did not take to the bloody insane revolution). Compared to what? Basket case “nations” like Italy and Greece? Compared to what? Russia’s genocidal starvation campaign (Holodomor) against Ukrainians? Spain’s murderous civil war? 13 languages spoken in a multi-ethnic nation with everything from Jews to Muslims, intellectual and cultural urban centers that were bastions of culture, single monetary unit (like the EU a century later)... The place was amazing.
yet the less industrialized areas and nations within the empire benefitted greatly, there will always be frictions and some thing could have been done better but it was still the golden age of many of those countries
Could have been better most of the first 15 minutes could have been dropped. The Austrian official history in online in English and German "Austro-Hungary's Last war 1914-1918."
TO ALL THOSE WHO MIGHT BE INTERESTED A POSSIBLE ALTERNATIVE EXPLANATION OF THE 1914 SARAJEVO ASASSINATION THROUGH AN ACCIDENTAL LINGUISTIC MISUNDERSTANDING - doprava / pravo someone once said that history is too serious a science to be left just to historians I herewith wish to humbly submit my contribution as a LINGUIST namely, my idea is that the 1914 SA assassination may have been caused by an accidental linguistic misunderstanding - the CZECH word ''doprava'' and the local word (call it as you wish: Serbo-Croatian, koiné neo-štokavian, or just South(ern) Slav of the Eastern standard, Bosnia included) ''PRAVO'' > meaning GO STRAIGHT the Czech driver, a stranger to the city, probably got confused as he approached the bridge and (maybe upon asking) might have been instructed (orally by a local, traveling in the same vehicle or maybe by a not far-away local passer-by) or pre-instructed (again, orally by some local official who was in charge of charting the route) and was eventually made to understand that at that particular bridge he was supposed to TURN RIGHT instead od CONTINUING STRAIGHT ... this incidental stop was, as we all know, fatal please bear in mind that I am from THIS country and also that I am a trained linguist (got my M.A. degree) and multilingual, which includes Czech a similar misunderstanding happened to my as I once drove in the Moravian City of Olomouc and asked, stopping at the lights, the driver who was in the vehicle next to mine, how I could get to the railway station ... he told me ''jděte doprava'' which I instinctively understood (in my native language) as ''idite pravo'' - ''procede straight'' whereas I should have turned to the right ... the cultured Czech drivers were kind enough to NOT make any mass of it because losing a few second of the right-arrow signal ... LOOKING FORWARD TO YOUR COMMENTS Željko Novačić / ZELJKO NOVACIC on FB or mail to zenova@net.hr
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Lotta h8 in the comment, i for 1 appreciated this talk. The pace is a bit slow, but that's ok. I like talks that challenge the historical orthodoxy about things like the hapsburg empire of Austria Hungary. History is many things but it is rarely boring and obvious, especially applied to such a strange and complex entity as AH
Hello i wanted to know if Mr.Deak is going to write a book on the habsburg army
with many photos like a photo history book also do you know of any DVD's on the
habsburg empire that are worth watching my grandfather served in the 27th Laibach Regt. a slovene Regt. in ww1 please let me know Richard.
Can you talk about Blessed Karl
It takes ages to get going but some of the insights towards the end are fascinating. Nonetheless, I think that the speaker is whitewashing the Dual Monarchy to some extent and the untertone of his speech is that there were frictions between peoples within it.
Versus what? The 750,000 Americans who were killed by other Americans (more than all American casualties in all American wars combined) in a civil war that went down when Franz Jospeh had been ruling the dual monarchy for twenty years! Would you call that “friction between peoples” within America? How about the “fractions” between Americans and Native Americans?
Compared to what? Ireland and Scotland and the Jacobite Uprisings and other insurrections against Great Britain? Great Britain’s own civil war where the King Charles Stuart I was beheaded?
Compared to what? The French Revolution and the Reign of Terror and the war in the Vendee where something like 300-400k were killed (mainly Catholic rebels who did not take to the bloody insane revolution).
Compared to what? Basket case “nations” like Italy and Greece?
Compared to what? Russia’s genocidal starvation campaign (Holodomor) against Ukrainians? Spain’s murderous civil war?
13 languages spoken in a multi-ethnic nation with everything from Jews to Muslims, intellectual and cultural urban centers that were bastions of culture, single monetary unit (like the EU a century later)...
The place was amazing.
yet the less industrialized areas and nations within the empire benefitted greatly, there will always be frictions and some thing could have been done better but it was still the golden age of many of those countries
ages & ages.
Starts 13:30.
Could have been better most of the first 15 minutes could have been dropped. The Austrian official history in online in English and German "Austro-Hungary's Last war 1914-1918."
Thank you for this presentation. Quite a bit of knowledge can be gleaned from it.
TO ALL THOSE WHO MIGHT BE INTERESTED
A POSSIBLE ALTERNATIVE EXPLANATION OF THE 1914 SARAJEVO ASASSINATION THROUGH AN ACCIDENTAL LINGUISTIC MISUNDERSTANDING - doprava / pravo
someone once said that history is too serious a science to be left just to historians
I herewith wish to humbly submit my contribution as a LINGUIST
namely, my idea is that the 1914 SA assassination may have been caused by an accidental linguistic misunderstanding - the CZECH word ''doprava'' and the local word (call it as you wish: Serbo-Croatian, koiné neo-štokavian, or just South(ern) Slav of the Eastern standard, Bosnia included) ''PRAVO'' > meaning GO STRAIGHT
the Czech driver, a stranger to the city, probably got confused as he approached the bridge and (maybe upon asking) might have been instructed (orally by a local, traveling in the same vehicle or maybe by a not far-away local passer-by) or pre-instructed (again, orally by some local official who was in charge of charting the route) and was eventually made to understand that at that particular bridge he was supposed to TURN RIGHT instead od CONTINUING STRAIGHT ... this incidental stop was, as we all know, fatal
please bear in mind that I am from THIS country and also that I am a trained linguist (got my M.A. degree) and multilingual, which includes Czech
a similar misunderstanding happened to my as I once drove in the Moravian City of Olomouc and asked, stopping at the lights, the driver who was in the vehicle next to mine, how I could get to the railway station ... he told me ''jděte doprava'' which I instinctively understood (in my native language) as ''idite pravo'' - ''procede straight'' whereas I should have turned to the right ... the cultured Czech drivers were kind enough to NOT make any mass of it because losing a few second of the right-arrow signal ...
LOOKING FORWARD TO YOUR COMMENTS
Željko Novačić / ZELJKO NOVACIC on FB or mail to zenova@net.hr
So many words around so little content delivered at such a slow pace by a ............
Note to speaker. 1) Drop the first 15 minutes of useless information. 2) stop talking about your process and tell us what you learned.
Jesus man, Yugoslavians in Austria-Hungary??!!
Southern Slavs. Yes.
Dissapointing
What is he even taking about?😊