You think these people care about historical accuracy? Lol no. Do you think they'd be clamouring for diversity for a game set in Africa? No. These people don't deserve our attention.
Oh Metatron, I do hope you are not saying that the women were 'weak' because of how they had to deal with men's oppressive bs and constant appetite for conquest and bloodlust? Just because we weren't on the 'front lines,' doesn't mean we were weak. 💪💅🫀
Not probably obviously! Some did venture into parts of North Africa, the Mediterranean and the Middle East, but I doubt many in high numbers went to Northern Europe towards Bohemia.
Authenticity and accuracy is diversity. I don’t want ahistorical woke nonsense. Why not give us authentic European, Japanese, Chinese, North African, etc. stories? I don’t want to see random East Asians in Medieval Europe. Truth is inclusivity
Even the moors were white. Since they’re a different class of African settlers from the north and not from Sub Sahara. Check out the Berbers and their skin colors.
In history games? Of course, the European colonialisation from the 1700s. 😂 Let's be honest we all would love a game from that famous battle between the British Redcoats vs the Zulu warriors, we get to pick either side we want to play as, not only as a fun game but as a history lesson. But we know SJWs won't like that.
I think many of those voices actually are from the US, maybe UK, where indeed today many black people are present, but they might have no idea about central/eastern Europe, where it's quite rare to meet any black people. Especially in all the countries that are former Soviet states (as we saw in the map in this video). Or they know there are basically no black people there, even today, but they don't care and it's strictly ideological, because they think "representation" is the most important thing ever.
*Fun fact:* Daniel Vavra once said on X that he was very proud to be a pioneer in the progressive inclusion of "gender neutral toilets" in games. That comment was posted with the image of a medieval latrine. 🤣🤣🤣
As a native Czech who is proud of our rich history, thank you for this video. The KCD 2 game presents our history as it was, and has nothing to do with today's discrimination of any race, religion, or sexual orientation. History is history and should not be changed just to say "we are tolerant of anything and everything". Thank you
@@RenaudKyoku They will certainly not. What they met by diversity is the same thing that is explained in this video. Kutná Hora was quite an important city at that time, so there will most likely be noblemen and merchants from all around Europe. If there is one thing I am certain about in my life it is that Daniel Vávra would never even try to change history in this way. He is an idiot with really questionable opinions sometimes, but he is without a doubt a great game developer.
@@RenaudKyoku In the Czech dictionary, "diversity" does not mean people of a certain race, orientation or faith. :D Diversity means diversity in the environment = landscape, houses, monuments, and also the behavior of NPCs, which should be more realistic and shape the atmosphere of the given time. And also gameplay variety = improved combat, more gameplay options, such as developing your character as a personality based on decisions. That's diversity. ;)
It would also show that they care about political view rather than the game itself, it's nothing about hatred or r@cism but about kingdom a small country. as Czech I love black people.
@@roberw1912that's the issue it's always non black people putting arguments like that forward, showing how disconnected they are with the black community real issues
I'm ignoring LGBT voices. Kingdom Come Deliverance has a homosexual character and he is handled very authentically. He has given himself over to be a monk in order not to give in to his desires, and you have the option of giving him a personally supportive word. "That's not my business, it's between you and Our Lord." when he is worried you're going to mock him. Iirc when the interaction comes up you can mock him, show fear, or offer him encouragement in his difficult spiritual walk. They handled it perfectly, for giving the option to be respectful and remaining historically accurate.
Contrast that to Witcher 3 where there is a token, tacked on gay quest. But you cannot affect the quest in any way apart from clicking the button to advance to next line of monologue. Box-ticking exercise.
@@Steven9567 Christianity is so rare these days, it's difficult to find people who understand that. 1% of my country goes to church, and of them most are pro-LGBT.
@@vladtheimaplertepes15th century, mate. It literally is stated on the back of the box. Movement of Husiti is the main theme and let me paraphrase the definition of that movement: "(Husitism/Husitsvtí/Husitské hnutí) is a religious, ethnical and political movement established after the burning of Mistr Jan Hus on the 6th July of 1415 (šestého července roku páně 1415)." Source: Šmahel, František: Husitské Čechy, Struktury, procesy,ideje. Praha:NLN, 2001.
Metatron you don´t even realise how grateful we Czechs are that you actually said the Czech Republic is in Central Europe and not in Eastern Europe. People always get this wrong and basically take us as Russians :D
@@Beyonder1987 As a Czech individual, there IS a central Europe, I can assure you and It makes a huge difference if there is a war going on on the east.. closer you are, the more you feel it.. We are still the lucky ones
@@theforsakeen177 Abo in Australia are not descendants of Africans despite their black skin. They're more closely related to Indian subcontinent Asians. Sub-Saharan Africans never invented transoceanic sailing.
My mother who was born in 1943 remembers the first time she saw a black person in Brighton in the mid 1950s The chances of running across one in 1500s Bohemia ANYWHERE, including cities, were virtually none existent. Trying to claim otherwise is ludicrous.
Even now in cities below 100000 people it is exceedingly rare. "Cosmopolitan" people just have now clue about daily lives of people beyond their bubble.
i live in rural texas and i am one of only 15ish black students at the high-school i attend i remember asking my ex if “every black person could dance” and she said, verbatim “idk you’re the only black person i know and you can dance so ig”
Archeologist from Scandinavia here. Im super grateful for Metatron's content here on youtube. Where so many other creators fall short in the neutral and scientific without politics approach the Metatron stand strong! Its truly a breath of fresh air and I strongly support and stand behind this content which is strongly aligned with what I was taught in university here. Just pure and simple historical accuracy should always be a pillar when creating or sharing information/content.
This is so true. I can't even watch most of science UA-cam because they can't keep their fucking politics to themselves. I found an archeology channel the other day that was interesting. It took less than 15 minutes for the topic to swap to "the Alt Right Pipeline."
The people complaining are ussually people who aren't black and aren't gamers. Just random proffesional offended people looking for the next thing to feel offended by.
This game is set in Medieval Bohemia which is in fact a country where I come from and I feel proud that it represents our people and culture. We do not want any of the weird american propaganda so if anybody is complaining they can just piss off.
The Woke mind virus is modern day marxism which comes from Europe not America it is a weapon being used against us it is not something we are proud of or export.
I feel really bad for Daniel Vavra. They used against him the worst insults possible just because he wanted his own game to be as historically accurate as possible. In fact, he even had to cancel his promotional visit to Spain, where the political climate is very polarized and conflictive, just because the spanish press and social media were literaly calling him n3Zi. Simply 🤬
@@aj.j5833 In this case, Warhorse is completely free of any outside interference. But, Dan himself said that due to current western insanity, he often wonders how much he self-censors subconsciously in order to avoid unwanted controversies. Nobody wants to release a game they work on for 5 years and then get plastered all over game journalist websites as someone horrible.
African trader in 15th century Ghana: Wife, i will be traveling to this village with a population of 120 people in the middle of europe, yes I will be crossing the ocean then a dozen other major european cities to sell my stuff there. Please pack my bags.
Living in Czech, thanks for the video. It's a dangerous trend of people rewriting the history to fit their beliefs, or even worse judging history using todays standards....
Tbh i doubt its even that high, that would be 100k ppl, i live in Hungary, and id say its pretty comparable to Czechia in population numbers and ethnic composition, outside our capital i think ive seen black people like twice xd Central Europe is not LA as many ppl on twitter think
Either come to Spain or travel to England or France. The percentages are much much much higher. And take this as a friendly advice: PROTECT YOUR COUNTRY FROM GETTING MORE OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS
A month ago, Kotaku and IGN said that KCD2 must be more diverse in the means of there must be more black people and to that I said: "WHAT DO YOU MEAN MORE DIVERSITY???!!!!! IT'S A FUCKING HISTORICALLY ACCURATE GAME" Reject Wokeness, embrace Henry being hungry
I still worry about their publisher being Deep Silver. No matter who based the developer is, take Stellar Blade and what happened with that game due to publisher Sony.
Watch Warhorse get the last laugh for having germans, czechs, hungarians and cumans in Kuttenberg and then saying "See? Diversity. Just not the one you expected"
@Lowdian the craziest thing is the people who push for diversity also ignore the diversity in different ethnic groups and the nuances in their culture. All they see is race - they are real life racists.
People complaining about women in the first game is bonkers to me. They literally made a DLC called Women's Lot where you play as Theresa and it's one of the best DLC in the game. Instead of head on fighting it forces you to play stealthily and tactically. Guess they don't like REAL strong and empowered women because that's exactly what Theresa was.
Well, a lot of the people who like to complain about the things you mentioned believe that there isn't a real difference between men and women, that the supposed differences between the 2 sexes are just enforced by a sexist patriarchal society. Odds are, they'd be mad that you can fight with swords as Henry, but not as Theresa.
thoe who complain, never intended to purchase the game, or even read a tiny paragraph about the game. Do you expect them read about DLC that's past outrage lifespan?
Kutná Hora city - Kuttenberg will be definitely the most diverse location from both KCD 1 and KCD 2. There is possibility to meet Czechs, Moravians, Silesians, German, Italians and Jews. There is a small chance to meet people from other close countries like Hungarians, Poles or French. But to meet someone from Subsaharian Africa? Very unlikely.
@@Whayleejay That is a bold statement. How would you prove that it is impossible to be from Subsaharan African and travel to Bohemia? And we don't have complete records of every event that happened in those times, including the movement of foreigners in Kuttenberg.
@@MiroslavDrozen it's not impossible for them to do it, what I am saying is that it didn't occur. Not "possible" of course it's possible. They didn't, they didn't go there, because of both lack of an incentive and difficulty. Humans aren't known for going out of their way to do difficult things for no gain.
@@Whayleejay yeah i mean the Romans didn't went south of North Africa because the difficulty of the Saharan desert (ofcourse you have other reasons but you get the point)
The game devs take pride in that series having as much historical accuracy as possible. Anyone wanting to deviate from said historical accuracy is actually trying to distort history for the sake of propaganda.
It really matters to me too because my love of history started with playing assassins creed back in the late 2000s. They wrote the story in a way where your character is peripheral to real history unfolding around you without altering it (too much). Games can be a gateway to other varied interests when every aspect is treated with care by the writers and devs. If you play the new AC you’re not going to be getting that authenticity, clearly.
They need to do more than touchgrass they need to be brought back to reality ASAP and should be totally ignored like they were in the past when s*** was better .
@@30noir hell no they need to experince how it feels to live in third world country. And how it feels to live back in those medieval time periods cuz I can 100% be certain any of the idiots speaking nonsense will get punished harshly even by the church for speaking heresy.
This whole "controversy" is purely American thing. It can be boiled down to "uneducated people are assuming stuff". They don't know anything about Europe in middle ages or even just Europe or just middle ages at all. They don't know how long, expensive, tedious and dangerous was traveling in that time and thus they don't know than very few people actually traveled outside their kingdom even once in their life time... most of people in middle ages didn't even personally knew someone who did. If anyone traveled anywhere it was for a very good specific reason. Most commerce done between mutually exotic places (like Africa and Central/Northern Europe) was done in Mediterranean ports and goods (like ivory) changed hands many many times before they got from lets say Ethiopia to Germany or anywhere in that geographical space. There were very very rare black people there but all 3 or 4 of them were servants at court of richest nobles and they basically never left his palace because their purpose was to pour drinks and more importantly be a living proof to his guests how rich he is... literally 0 chance to meet them in person. The most "exotic" person you could realistically meet was an Arabian/Jewish trader who tagged along with an envoy from some middle eastern kingdom to Rome and other important seats of power.
If it were purely an American thing, than Vavra would not have had to cancel his appearance in spain because he was being called a n@zi by people on social media and in the press there. The far-left belief that equal representation is more important than history is as prevalent, if not moreso, in western Europe and Canada than it is in the USA.
My background is South-east Asian and it's pretty obvious growing up in North America that diversity usually means Black, or Muslim. It's just political power play, it's not about cultural learning and exploration.
True. Whenever liberal Americans talk about diversity and inclusivity, they always leave out Asians (excluding Middle East) and indigenous peoples and only talk about Hispanics, blacks, and Muslims.
Indeed, Chinese, Thai, and Japanese individuals have already been included as non-members of people of color in the United States. This may have been done to create vacancies in the DEI rankings, I presume. Alternatively, it could be an attempt to obtain additional subsidies for those who are idle.
Remember when there's a show with an all Asian cast (along with some Native Americans, if I heard right). And the first thing these people did is scream about the lack of "diversity". That is despite the cast of the show mostly came from different ethnicities from one another
I appreciate the level of respect Metatron brings in the video about KCD2 and the Czech history/culture in general. Btw pronunciation of Dan Vávra is spot on. A little detail, but I wouldn't expect anything less from a UA-camr fluent in several languages.
It would be better if they just showed more games within an African setting but instead it seems like a few bad apples are trying to make the world hate black people even more than before over the dumbest stuff
As a Czech, I think Kingdom Come is well representative of our history. I don't know why some people feel the need to change it, personally I think Africa has a very interesting and to many people unknown history and if someone wants to make a game based on it, I'll be happy to play it. But instead all I see are empty gestures from people who don't care about history but only about their own agenda.
Well if you want to be historical the coneot of race didn't rally exist back in the day. There were much more non-white people than commonly believed, even though there were still very few. You can find quite a few manuscripts and paintings of the era where you see non-whites and even in the city records you can read the various origin of the inhabitants.
They don't honestly care because they would have to first learn about Africa, their culture, and mythology/lore to create a game based on that. They don't do that because it's easier to throw it in randomly for social credit points. They pretend to care, but just not enough to actually do the research.
what I find the craziest about people wanting black people in historically accurate games like KCD is the fact that if there WERE black people in the game the historically accurate dialogue from NPCs walking around and seeing them would be too offensive to actually include. Can you imagine the sorts of things a Bohemian farmer would say upon seeing a black dude for the first time?
I think he would not even live long enough to hear anything nice thrown at him because they would likely kill him. A black person would be considered the devil in person at times like these 😂😢
People would consider him as čert (chort) a Czech/Slavic mythology creature Wich was christianized as form of devil (he have very dark skin), so people would be scare of black person literally 😅
They'd think it's the devil. Curly black hair and black eyes occur in many Czech songs and are a sign of magic and betrayal and demonic powers. Skin colour isn't mentioned at all, it's always the hair and eyes. Even when people say that somebody is black, they are talking about hair and eyes, not necessarily the skin. A white person with dark hair and eyes will be talked about as "black" so there's another problem with relying on written sources.
I am a Czech from Prague. Prague naturally is the center and most cosmopolitan city in the country. And, even now, in 2024, it is extremely rare to meet a black person here who is not a tourist. It is not so uncommon to see an Asian person here, as they are running some business (mainly Chinese and Vietnamese restaurants and some other shops), but that's a matter of development let's say last 50 years. During communist era Czechoslovakia served as a place where people from developing countries is Asia and also Africa studied based on political connections between the "Eastern block" and these developing countries. As for Asians, they were first who was settling here in some higher than negligible numbers, built ties that provided further influx of mainly Vietnamese people. Still, there are only around 38,000 people living here who declare Vietnamese allegiance, with other Asians it might be some 45-50,000 people and that is the development of as I said last 50 years. As for black people, yes, asi I said, there was a some influx of African students during mainly 80s and 90s, but it occured very rarely that some of them settled there and even with recent refugee Wavesthe number did not increase recognizably, which also applies for people from the Middle east (we are not destiny for them). So as I said it is still very rare now and if so it is the development of the last quarter of the 20th century and 21st century. So imagining 15th century Bohemia as somehow ethnically diverse area when it comes to non-Europeans, is really bizarre. Something like that would be extremely rare and could only occur on some very specific conditions. Yes, let's say some Italian merchant visiting mostly Prague could have a non white servant for instance, but putting such character into the game would require explanation of the background of such character, and while meeting with such character the other characters would not take it as normal but would be curious "who are you and how did you get here".
The conversations that normally would have quickly ended with 'don't be so f****ng stupid', are now policy notes for some Western politicians. The inmates are truly running the asylum.
I wouldn't say it's a debate, I'd say it's a one sided lunatic shouting... The problem is we have to respond because we have already seen what happens if we dismiss those hysterical ppl as your average "delusional apocalypse preacher" 😅
Daniel Vávra is deeply hated by the left for his opinions and for a very good reason at that. He doesn't give a crap about any inclusion and just delivers the best gaming product. He really cares about history and I admire him for it.
Not all the left, just the very far left. That's like saying all the right are racists because that's common on the very far right, are you racist because you are politically on the right? As for myself being politically left I seriously dislike SJW's and completely disagree with them, I like accuracy in historical representation or in the race/sex of existing characters and hate it when those tools get involved. So next time you are about to say "the left" remember that you are saying the equivalent of "the right are all racist" and remember to add the word "extreme" or "Far" before left or just not say "the left" and be more correct.
@JETWTF Lol who do you think fought against nazi ? It's the right wing, central and conservative type of people Recently a anti violence leftist shot Slovakia PM Leftis talk about peace but given the power they will kill people who don't agree with them
@@JETWTF "As for myself being politically left I seriously dislike SJW's and completely disagree with them" Same. Not all of them of course, but some of them go way too far with their 'activism'. During the Hogwart's legacy release for example, SJWs went around harassing anyone who streamed the game, even bringing one streamer to tears due to the constant harassment they received. Same stuff on reddit, constant attacks not just at people who played the game, but even people who were just like "eh, I don't think someone playing the game makes them a transphobe" would be called transphobes. Those people 100% deserve every single bit of pushback they receive because they make their entire movement look bad. They're the equivalent of those idiots who camp in the middle of a busy street and block people who have places to be. No one stuck in their car for an hour is going to have an ounce of sympathy for whatever those people are protesting.
No he's not. He's hated by the SJW section among the extreme-left. That's quite a difference. Especially using American political definitions where 'leftwing' translates as 'anything with views that don't rank as clinically insane such as saying being poor is always a choice, or women feel happier without human rights and with bombs going off at abortion clinics everything'. Which means that 'left' is meaningless since it's 98% of opinions. To the more sensible definition tons of leftwingers don't care about enforced American 'diversity'. The conservative left for example. The Dutch Socialist Party as a concrete example voted against the 2005 forced-diversity bill and their ideas are quite different, for example they are openly pro-Iran, pro-Russia and anti-Jewish with anti-semitic chanting a staple of their demos for 20 years now.
Why isn't there any Irish gingers in any Romance of the Three Kingdoms adaptations? Where are the Chinese people in the Iliad? Why don't any movies about Ghenghis Khan have any Colombians? Where are the Kangaroos in Lion King? Why no Klingons in King Arthur? NYPD Blue needs more Jedi!
Actually, iIrc, there was a character in RoTK who was described as having a copper-red beard and pale skin. While he wasn't Irish per se, he probably was partially Celtic. Not completely improbable, since there was an account of a Celtic settlement in Western China along the silk road.
KC:D1 was diverse. Germans, Bohemians/Czechs, and Cumans. I think I heard an English accent and even American ones, so for 1402 it was very progressive
@@GibsMeMunny I agree. And I find the entire idea of "everything is political" to be a self-fulfilling prophecy. Some things are only political because someone forcibly makes them so.
What are his politics? I just see someone not interested in perpetuating the rewriting of history that tends to happen when current conformity is being pushed among the people, willing or not.
The nigh persecution experienced by anyone to exhibits what the left calls “wrongthink” is legitimately nearing fascist levels of oppression. It’s ironic tbh, they have become so politically-correct that they have become what they wanted to destroy. Idiots.
Theyre using black characters as checkmarks by this point I mean look at star wars for example. They got a black saber wielding character on all the covers and what does he end up being in the end? A guy that shouts the main characters name 24/7 If the focus was on his the trilogy would be way less more shite
Imagine boiling your identity down to your most irrelevant characteristics, such that you can't feel represented by characters who are smart or courageous or passionate or loyal, etc. Those qualities aren't relatable to you.
People thinking Bohemia would have significant number of Asians in it are the same type of people who think it's feasible to commute to work everyday from New York to San Francisco and back. By Foot. No idea of geography. 🤣
I once saw an article where some gamer complained about the racism of KCD and the lack of black people, arguing that it is historically proven that they were there. Because there are paintings of them! Then he showed paintings of St. Maurice. An Egyptian... Yeah, picture of a Catholic saint from Egypt was used as a sincere proof that black people lived in medieval Bohemia.
Oh, my sweet summer child, you're about to be introduced to a world of conspiracies. "Egyptians were black." "Black people inhabited Europe and were displaced by white people." "It was actually black people who made Stonehenge". "Romans were black."
Which sane mercenary who is coming from Africa, would pass through Eritrea, then pass by the paradise Egypt, garden Eden Mesopotamia, rich Syria, very rich Anatolia, Constantinople, venture through mountains full of professional nomadic Looters, venture through the swamps and dark forests of Europe, sprinkled with castles of professional pillagers, just to hire in Bohemia for below average pay??? .
African mercenary? He would not have lasted TWO minutes in Southern Europe during that time, facing the European mercenaries (white and non-white) of the era. Let's not joke, please.
@@massimilianomencacci2510there were definitively african (sub-saharan) especially from the east coast participating in wars during the middle ages, however their activity was mainly in the muslim world with some occasions facing christians
There was a story from the 14th century, I believe, of a archbishop or cardinal travelling through Bohemian Kingdom from Rome and encountering a milleress who was so devoutly religious she bought her own Bible. There might have been strong women in Medieval times, they definitely did not act or look the way we imagine them now. They would be effectively the head of the household, as it sometimes also happens today, but would have to let the man (or command the man) do his masculine duties outside their house and when interacting with the outside. When you look into the stories, tales, fairy tales of old Europe, you find many stories of basically matriarchal families and households. It was just still in the context where patriarchal hierarchies and households were more common.
It happened but rarely, (noble woman get away with crimes etc when they hide it from husband) but during hussite war's in the Táborité radical clan was woman warriors (not a first line mostly projectile support) but was there, they was most effective in battle of Vítkov.
In the the first KCD there's a conversation in the tavern of Sasau where an npc tells other drunks that he once saw people with skin as dark as night coming off a boat in Venice, the drunks don't believe him as soon as he starts mentioning how the city is built on the water and the people move using canals.
Ok, so there were blacks comming off boats in Venice. What does that prove. Until 1953 I lived in East Germany and never saw a black person. The blacks from Venice obviously didn't come that far North.
@cestmoi1262 Chill out dude, he's just mentioning cool piece of game's attention to detail and historical realism in its world-building. It wasn't supposed (at least I think so) to prove anything...
@@cestmoi1262 If isn't clear by the last part of my comment, that interaction illustrates the fact that the common people of that area of Bohemia don't know where Venice is let alone that black people exist and just take it as the ramblings of a drunk when told about it.
Man that's cool it definitely reminds me of RDR1 small mini game race with John, after you win it and you go and sit at a random campfire, you hear random people talking about the race that wasn't there, but they heard the rumors that a guy showed up one day out of nowhere, on a black or gray horse, he rode so fast until no one could keep up with him, and then he disappeared just as quick, some people say they race against the devil that day .
Those people will never play the game. They hate you. They hate gamers. They want to destroy games and replace them with propaganda. NEVER give them an inch. ALWAYS reject them.
Question of representation is an important topic in modern society. It is sensible that people, who care about this topic and dont know the historical background, are concerned about it. Some media outlets therefore use it as a fuel to get views or readers, which is understandable. And it creates a chain reaction where Metatron is obviously defending against these media outlets, which he also does for the views. This system is messed up but don't just flame on people you don't know for no reason :]
Also this kuttenberg Wich will be in the game was peak of Czech - German ethnic fighting and literally genocides there was right before hussite wars a murder of Czech miner's (pro Hussites) by Germans and during Hussites war it was opposite way 😂, so it's wierd they act like white is just one people
I love Jeremy Clarkson's hot take on diversity at a farm sale in the Cotswalds, "Amazon have said they want as much diversity in this show as we can possibly manage, and I think we're doing well because if you look, there's every different type of white 60-year-old man here."
As a Czech, this theatre was incredibly arrogant and ignorant. I grew up in a much bigger town than Rataje (the biggest town in KCD1) and I first saw a black person when I was 20. In Rataje, you do not have to speak about "traders" in middle age, my god!! Go there now, sit down at the main street and count blacks passing by. There is none even if you sit there the whole year.
we got plenty in denmark. most are stranded here because they actually were going to sweden - sweden was very eager to give them all wellfare you see, it´s the only reason they came - our authorities made them stay however... we hardly give them anything though.
Yeah, I commute on public transport through the city center and the main square of Brno (2nd largest city in Czechia) every workday twice and I can count on one hand how many black people I see in a year.
I am gay and I think they should add that. The past wasn't butterflies and rainbows. We have it so good now and for some people to think it's horrible need to see what it was like. I am appreciative of the fact that I don't live in fear. It's crazy how people have blinders on and can't look at actual facts.
@@gamer2101 Agreed. It fits the themes of the game as well. People put into a state of stress, panic, and rage from war often looked for scapegoats. People like us would fit the bill (perceived as perverted servants of Satan who brought the wrath of God upon the land, for example).
It is simple. I am Czech. I live in city of 50K inhabitants. In my 37 years of living here, I have never met person of african descent in this town. Seriously. Never. And that is in 21st century, age of airplanes and globalization. Yes, we have roma, vietnamese, slovak and ukrainian minorities here. Most of whom arrived in 20th and 21st century (Roma started arriving in 15th I think). Now, I am not saying there is no black person in my city, but I doubt there are any significant numbers and if I was making a game about my city, I would not portray it as 2024 NYC, I can tell you that. I am extremely annoyed by western (mostly americans and brits) culture warriors who demand that everyone must cater to their imperialist US-centric melting pot view of the world. In fact, I find their obsession with black people in particular kind of creepy.
Normal Americans are annoyed by it too. The ones who always talk about it are jobless and sit in their parents’ homes typing on their MacBook Airs. The issue is, the moderators of subreddits and other online communities are also jobless losers - this results in echo chambers where all the leftist, jobless people sit around spreading their messages online like it is their job. It’s f*king insanity.
I totally agree with what you say this game better not have the wokeism, black lives matter, inclusively bullshit. Be proud of being a fellow Czech citizen I say.. am from the UK Wales and believe me I feel ashamed and pissed off to what's happening to my country. Before long the UK won't be majority white, just another infested shithole of people who culture I.E Islamic politics will want to take over. I hope Czech Republic defends its borders abd keeps its uniqueness. Basically stay white.
They understand what they're doing and thus have a deliberate intention of changing history. Black knights didn't exist. Even in Spain, where the Moors ruled, there were a few black people present, but they were mostly servants or soldiers, not knights or in positions of power. At the very least, they should give the black character a Moorish background.
Well if you want to be historical the concept of race didn't really exist back in the day. There were much more non-white people than commonly believed, even though there were still very few. You can find quite a few manuscripts and paintings of the era where you see non-whites and even in the city records you can read the various origin of the inhabitants.
@@gustavpepa6462 You must be historian to know that. Foreign settlement, ethnic migration and history of medieval economics is the PhD level of knowledge. Than again, I am yet to see good source confirming african individuals, let alone settlements, in medieval central europe. What I know is one polish bishop named "Maurus", which can be both interpreted as him being from north Africa or some pet form of name "Maurice".
Well, we can discuss how many races were in Bohemia around the year 1403 and that they are not represented in the game. But I would say that children were definitely there, and yet most people don't question why they aren't in the game. :D :D
thanks metatron, I've been saying it for years that Africa has rich folklore and myths and stories that can be told in games, and movies, but lets be honest, Triple AAA studios are to afraid and would rather shove black people in things that people probably weren't in
Absolutely and that's why we resist those corporation, because if they really cared we would get AC Ethiopia. That would be "stunning and brave", not the race swapping. That's anything but.
@@admirekashiri9879and as an European I would certainly like to hear some fresh tales never told (here) before. But I get it most studios will stick to what they know about and African folklore probably isn't on top of the list.
It is interesting that no one has yet mentioned one specific historical source that describes an encounter of Czechs with African blacks in the 15th century. In 1465 (about two generations after the story of KC-D takes place), the King of Bohemia sent an envoy to the Duke of Burgundy, King of France and King of Portugal. A member of the delegation was a young knight named Václav Šašek of Bířkov, who left a lengthy travelogue. During a visit to Lisbon, Czech diplomats saw black slaves imported from Africa and asked the Portuguese nobles about their origins. Václav Šašek recorded this episode as remarkable.
Yes that was under king George of Poděbrady, so called "Hussite King" he sent a "propaganda" contingent around Europe to prove Czechs aren't "devil sinner's" but a knighthood Land. He also proposed something like "European union" in medieval times with heart at France , but got approval only in Poland.
I dont want "diversity" tyvm. Im English and I want my Heritage and Ancestral homeland to be displayed Correctly. If these people want Africa then they can make a game based in Africa.
I agree! Just know it’s not all of us asking these stupid questions. I sure as hell would cringe if I saw a token black character in KCD2 or any IP meant to be in ancient or medieval Europe.
Now imagine what could happen if there was a new movie or game set in England during the mid-14th century. "What?! They cast a white guy as the Black Prince?!?"
What the people advocating for diversity (and massive immigration of course) do not want to see, is that the diversity of culture is already a thing, if you zoom out a little bit, the world is diverse. Now if you mix and blend everything, every culture into every country, what do you get.. we don't know really.
from a black, can these people stop trying to force us into places we shouldn't be and, i don't know. MAKE A GAME OR SOME SUCH SET IN AFRICA OR AN AFRICAN COUNTRY?! RESEARCH TEAMS EXIST FOR A REASON!
@@yenimitnellenellen747 yea know what, i would love to play a european person/white person, in a white person european setting! ITS ALMOST LIKE ITS JUST COMMON BACKGROUND INDENTIFICATION OR COMMON DECENCY!
Choosing gender in this type of game must be: 1. List of all genders to choose 2. If xou choose something else than male or female, you start game screaming on burning stake 3. Game over This is most historically accurate for dark age Europe.
I mean, if you choose something else than male or female, there's a very high chance you'll just be treated like male or female anyways. They weren't that eager to burn people unless they literally caught them in the act of having gay sex. Though it interestingly wasn't all bigotry. I remember reading about the case of a person who was born with both male and female sex characteristics and who was raised as a girl. Later on that person fell in love with a woman and wanted to marry them, which obviously they couldn't just do like that because well, same sex marriage was not allowed. This person was able to go to a court and manage to be legally recognized as a man instead after proving that they had male sexual characteristics, which meant they got the go-ahead to marry the woman they loved and were granted all other legal privileges of being a man. A lot of the time, the people back then weren't outright hateful, they just weren't sure how to categorize certain things and unless the subject was gay sex which the bible explicitly condemned, there often was a bit of room for negotiation.
@@gehlesen559 Well, homo-sexuality isn't a "gender" (sex) - read the comment you replied to. Sometimes, men (male) and women (female) were homosexual, but still men and women.
@@BlackQback you have three options in the medieval period: 1 male, attracted to females, female attracted to males, and male or female attracted to anything else. .
Keep fighting the good fight Metatron! Bravo! I give you this inspirational quote: “They tried to bury us, but they didn’t know we were seeds” - attributed to the Greek poet and scholar Dinos Christianopoulos.
someone make a movie/game set in pre-colonial sub-saharan Africa and then watch the endless critique about the "lack of white people" that will totally happen.... bruh...
Tbh I wish they'd stop whinging about medieval Europe not being portrayed as "diverse" by modern definition and actually make those pre-colonial sub-saharan African movies. There's so much you could do, but they'd rather complain than make historically epics that are accurate.
I'd play a shaka zulu grand strategy game or a mansa musa economy focused game in a heartbeat. we're literally missing out on good ideas because a whole faction of people is focused more on destroying white history than celebrating black history.
It would be quite disrespectful to include regular black people in KC2. Just because Czechs are white doesn't mean we don't have our own culture which should be respected. As someone from small town in Moravia (eastern part of Czech Republic) who saw a black person in CZ for the first time at the age 20 when I started studying in Prague I can say black people are EXTREMELY uncommon even today (everywhere else than in the two biggest cities).
Because the racists think white people could not have possibly lived in white-only cities and towns. They’re not only racist, they’re also historical revisionists, which I’d argue is even more dangerous.
Same damn question. Every damn time, someone makes something that takes place in medieval Europe. But I'm happy that Metatron has the energy to answer that question.
People who criticize this game for lack of diversity I criticize for lack of love for truth. Such people should be ashamed! (as our PRague's Castle Flag says: Love and Truth Will Win!)
ASCHTUALLY...indigenous australian are black, north africans kingdoms apart from blacks merchants also used blacks as soldiers in their armies, so did muslim asiatic kingdoms in the middle east.
@@theforsakeen177 Indigenous australian are different despite the looks. North africans kingdoms? Muslim asiatic kingdoms? You forgot they had slaves and mercenaries were rare in muslims kingdoms.
@@theforsakeen177 Indigenous australian / aborigines are not black sub-saharan people. They are genetically more related to none sub-saharan than to the black sub-saharan africans.
These people don't need to get any attention from the developers. Also, they don't need to get explanations about historical accuracy, since they don't care to listen. They just want to culturally appropriate everything and cancel people that don't agree with their insanity.
The main bad guy Istvan Toth is also gay and you capture his lover and use him to negotiate the end of the final seige. People complained without even playing.
I mean the game is inclusive and diverse by default, representing Czech people. It boggles my mind how this is so hard to understand for some people. They want every franchise to be the same, instead of every franchise being unique and different, which is diverse on realistic, macro scale. So their goal should not be to change existing stories, but to push to tell different stories altogether, so the sum total of the choice of games, movies and shows is very diverse. Not enough black people in media? Well make a show in modern day USA or in Africa. Too many white people? Shelf this medieval fantasy show for now, or green light some other show or a game taking place in different setting. When it comes to the last bit of the video about fictional settings, yes I don't mind it having many ethnic groups together, if this is how the setting is conceived from the start, especially if it's still explained in the lore. DG2 was a good example where it made sense. If they change existing universe like LOTR or The Witcher then it's wrong for the same reason changing history is wrong.
I would like to join the discussion with a counter question. Since we are talking about being inclusive. If there were a video game, movie or story about tribes in Africa, do we also have to add in white western people, Native Americans, Latin or people from Asia?
It is very hard to explain a person who follows a certain ideology about historical and scientific facts. They want to push todays political agendas into times where they were not present and feel then attacked if they do not find them there. But to become more specific, how should black people actual get there and what reasons should they have to stay there? There was no need and no slavery of black people in that region, so no one would have taken black people there, no black person would have had a reason to go there and they would have no reason to stay in that culture.
Funny thing is- Warhorse's last expansion for KCD was Women's Lot what let you see world from Theressa's pov. Way they implemented it to game in my humble opinion was great, she knew realities of her situation and surroundings and went through huge personal drama and through her view we saw what we couldn't see with in Henry's pov. Yet this political activists would only be happy if Theressa would have been main character, having love relation with black women and become Emperor of Holy Roman Empire.
I like Women’s Lot but not being able to put some armor on was annoying. Of course it would fit poorly & slow her down, but then, i just cheesed all the baddies with a bow anyway
@@cat-le1hf bro who gives a sht if he is real, too many people waiting for an ac samurai game with a male japanese as main character in mind. Is that so hard to understand you "restart" HAHAHHA
I don´t have access to these works, but it seems medieval Bohemia was more diverse than usually assumed. At least three historians covered it - Jaroslav Panušák - a Czech historian who has written extensively on the topic of diversity in medieval Bohemia and the role of people of color in the region. Petr Sommer - another Czech historian who has written about the presence of Asians and Africans in Bohemia during the Middle Ages. Hana Pátá - a Czech historian who has written about the trade and cultural exchange between Bohemia and other regions, including Africa and Asia.
KCD is set in Bohemia. I can’t say I’ve ever been to Bohemia but in a few years of living in and visiting Russia and Ukraine, I don’t think I saw a single black person. Even today after the Western European slave trade importing black people for centuries and now large scale immigration from Africa into Europe, they are still rare in Central and especially Eastern Europe. KCD takes place before the slave trade and before easy long distance travel. I’m all for accurate representation… But the thing about representation… Is it has to actually represent something. What nonexistent Medieval Bohemian black people was KCD supposed to represent?
@Dave-ks9fi True. Also, even though intra-African slave trade existed since thousands of years ago, European involvement in the slave trade didn’t exist until at least 50-100 years after the renaissance began. That’s way after the medieval period ended.
I am from Czech Republic and you have right. In medieval Bohemia was practicly zero black people. Meet black guy in Bohemia in that time was like "win the first price in lotery".
@@gustavpepa6462 Perhaps Emperor Rudolf II (or Rudolf I in Bohemia) could have had one in his collection of art and curiosities, but that was in 16th and 17th c. (turn of the century).
Ok, I agree that there were very few black people in Bohemia at that time. Regarding the present day, haven’t you been to Kyiv, Lviv, or Kharkjv? Before the war in these cities there were a lot of black African students studying in universities.
I remember the creator of the game address this before the first one came out. When he said there was no blacks in that area at that time based on the historians he consulted, he got a reply: "What about the Moors?". Lol.
One funny thing about KCD1 is that black people were breifly mentioned in one tavern talk, the local charlatan was talking about how he saw a man in prague in all black as if he was the shadow or something like that, when i heard it late at night in the tavern it made me chukle mostly when the locals talking with the charlatan did not belive him at all.
There’s that stupid misconception some people have of viewing western slavs (czechs, slovaks and poles) as some kind of russian offspring. That’s completely false, these nations have adopted christianity and established their own feudal kingdoms hundreds of years before russia even existed.
Depends were that drama is set...... In the huge trade hubs of the Mediterranean, like Constantinople, Venice, Genoa etc I bet you could find some. And there would definitely have been a population of black people in the parts of the Iberian peninsula that were controlled by Moors. Having small numbers of black people there would be fine. Central and Northern Europe, not so much....
If it’s authentic that shouldn’t be an issue. Some black people did indeed go into the Iberian Peninsula with the Moors (Berbers and Arabs). But, if it’s forced like having a black Bohemian knight then ye avoid that nonsense.
...kind of missed the point of the video if that's your view. Black people did *exist* in medieval Europe, just not in significant numbers and it highly depends on *where* the setting is whether there are more or less of them around. So if a historical drama just so happens to feature a port town in Spain and a black guy is in the background working on the docks it isn't pushing some "inclusivity" agenda...that's just something that could have happened at the time.
@@nickklavdianos5136 Moors aren't black, neither were Nubians, Punics, Berbers, Tuaregs, or anyone north of the Sahara. The only ones who made it up there rarely went past the Arab world, and most of those did so as eunuchs in chains.
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Metatron, in your opinion, does pandering ever become racist?
You think these people care about historical accuracy? Lol no. Do you think they'd be clamouring for diversity for a game set in Africa? No. These people don't deserve our attention.
"Where Are The Black People In Kingdom Come Deliverance 2?" In Africa, mostly.
I agree with you Raph, Although you may be tilting at a never-ending windmill with this subject.
Oh Metatron, I do hope you are not saying that the women were 'weak' because of how they had to deal with men's oppressive bs and constant appetite for conquest and bloodlust? Just because we weren't on the 'front lines,' doesn't mean we were weak. 💪💅🫀
"Where are the black people in Kingdom Come Deliverance 2?"
Well....Probably in africa.
Didn't the same 'question' come up relating to the first game, and the game designer's response was basically 'fornicate off and expire'
That was what I was thinking. I gather they were doing things in Africa.
Not probably obviously! Some did venture into parts of North Africa, the Mediterranean and the Middle East, but I doubt many in high numbers went to Northern Europe towards Bohemia.
What time is the game? The Moors are black and they where in Europe after 500 right?
@@r-ex2945The Moors are not black in the sense sub-Saharan Africans are
We dont want diversity, we want historical accuracy
Amen. Full stop.
yeah like if a history is based on China or Japan the people of that place in the world are from there
Authenticity and accuracy is diversity. I don’t want ahistorical woke nonsense. Why not give us authentic European, Japanese, Chinese, North African, etc. stories? I don’t want to see random East Asians in Medieval Europe. Truth is inclusivity
@@snowyy.5275it's kind of crazy seeing reactionaries making up fake outrage to respond to on camera for views
Amen, history is brutal and depressing
In Africa, assumedly.
Who would’ve thought
Maybe a detachment of Moorish diplomats at the capital? I struggle to see any other way.
That's not fair...Some of them might be in Portugal.
Even the moors were white. Since they’re a different class of African settlers from the north and not from Sub Sahara. Check out the Berbers and their skin colors.
@@donradkos6655 Portuguese are black?? That’s racist.
There was a blacksmith in every village
Underrated af!
Budum tss
Delusional -pro- regressives: "Where are the non indigenous peoples?"
Warhorse: *introduces historically accurate slaves for nobles*
Pampum tims
👍😂
As a black man in Africa I have to ask where are all the white people I see almost no white people over here.. White people need more representation..
In history games? Of course, the European colonialisation from the 1700s. 😂
Let's be honest we all would love a game from that famous battle between the British Redcoats vs the Zulu warriors, we get to pick either side we want to play as, not only as a fun game but as a history lesson. But we know SJWs won't like that.
@@tristanbackup2536 would love such a game.
Now that's your chance of making a game about an italian withe guy in the Zulu Tribe it will be a huge success
@@renren47618 Jumping off of 10ft mud huts doesn't sound fun
Good one! Lol.
You wouldn't find a black person in czech village today but for some reason people think we should find one in medieval Bohemia.
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Seems you've not come across Andre Traveler! :D
I think many of those voices actually are from the US, maybe UK, where indeed today many black people are present, but they might have no idea about central/eastern Europe, where it's quite rare to meet any black people. Especially in all the countries that are former Soviet states (as we saw in the map in this video).
Or they know there are basically no black people there, even today, but they don't care and it's strictly ideological, because they think "representation" is the most important thing ever.
@@mrhoneybadger5539lol
Not "one", but "many black people and also lgbt people etc." 😅
*Fun fact:* Daniel Vavra once said on X that he was very proud to be a pioneer in the progressive inclusion of "gender neutral toilets" in games. That comment was posted with the image of a medieval latrine.
🤣🤣🤣
The guy sounds pretty based
Here in Czechia, he is kinda meme for his takes. @@Redspark77
@@Redspark77 Play some of his GREAT games, youngling!
Now that is a good joke
The guy is a dick but sometimes has his moments.
As a native Czech who is proud of our rich history, thank you for this video. The KCD 2 game presents our history as it was, and has nothing to do with today's discrimination of any race, religion, or sexual orientation. History is history and should not be changed just to say "we are tolerant of anything and everything". Thank you
I heard that they would submit to this diktat in KCD2 and insert a lot of "diversity". If so I will boycott the game...
@@RenaudKyoku They will certainly not. What they met by diversity is the same thing that is explained in this video. Kutná Hora was quite an important city at that time, so there will most likely be noblemen and merchants from all around Europe.
If there is one thing I am certain about in my life it is that Daniel Vávra would never even try to change history in this way. He is an idiot with really questionable opinions sometimes, but he is without a doubt a great game developer.
@@geography_czek5699 I guess we'll see, and I sure hope you are right
@@RenaudKyoku In the Czech dictionary, "diversity" does not mean people of a certain race, orientation or faith. :D Diversity means diversity in the environment = landscape, houses, monuments, and also the behavior of NPCs, which should be more realistic and shape the atmosphere of the given time. And also gameplay variety = improved combat, more gameplay options, such as developing your character as a personality based on decisions. That's diversity. ;)
@@geography_czek5699 Why do you think he's an idiot?
As a black man I'd be more offended, if warhorse didn't keep it original, I couldn't careless about Sjw's and there crap
"If you don't vote for me then you ain't black" - Joe Biden
Tell me about it.
Imagine sticking a white guy, in the middle of Montezuma's Aztecs?!
I'm sure that'd go down well, with the Left!
I never know where they find these people. Most black people I have met think just like you.
It would also show that they care about political view rather than the game itself, it's nothing about hatred or r@cism but about kingdom a small country.
as Czech I love black people.
@@roberw1912that's the issue it's always non black people putting arguments like that forward, showing how disconnected they are with the black community real issues
I'm ignoring LGBT voices.
Kingdom Come Deliverance has a homosexual character and he is handled very authentically. He has given himself over to be a monk in order not to give in to his desires, and you have the option of giving him a personally supportive word. "That's not my business, it's between you and Our Lord." when he is worried you're going to mock him. Iirc when the interaction comes up you can mock him, show fear, or offer him encouragement in his difficult spiritual walk. They handled it perfectly, for giving the option to be respectful and remaining historically accurate.
Contrast that to Witcher 3 where there is a token, tacked on gay quest. But you cannot affect the quest in any way apart from clicking the button to advance to next line of monologue. Box-ticking exercise.
yeah people don't understand lust is very bad and people were punish for their actions
@@Steven9567 Christianity is so rare these days, it's difficult to find people who understand that. 1% of my country goes to church, and of them most are pro-LGBT.
The first game had a realistic for the time homosexual relationship. Izvan Toth and Erik
Which quest is that? The one with the hunter early game? @@Tom_Quixote
"Where are the black people in Kingdom Come Deliverance 2?"
Exactly where they should be. Not in Bohemia in the 15th century.
In 12th century
@@vladtheimaplertepes15th century, mate. It literally is stated on the back of the box. Movement of Husiti is the main theme and let me paraphrase the definition of that movement:
"(Husitism/Husitsvtí/Husitské hnutí) is a religious, ethnical and political movement established after the burning of Mistr Jan Hus on the 6th July of 1415 (šestého července roku páně 1415)."
Source: Šmahel, František: Husitské Čechy, Struktury, procesy,ideje. Praha:NLN, 2001.
Well, there are blacksmiths
Metatron you don´t even realise how grateful we Czechs are that you actually said the Czech Republic is in Central Europe and not in Eastern Europe. People always get this wrong and basically take us as Russians :D
In reality there is no central europe. Just east, west, north and south. Czech are slavs so are east Europeans
@@Beyonder1987 As a Czech individual, there IS a central Europe, I can assure you and It makes a huge difference if there is a war going on on the east.. closer you are, the more you feel it.. We are still the lucky ones
@@martinezz8268 you would be a cannon fodder, a human shield for the west 😂😂😂😂
@@Beyonder1987 My friend as a German I would have to disagree seeing as we are smack dab in the middle of Europe
@@Beyonder1987 Tell us that you don't understand geography without telling us that you don't understand geography.
They are in Africa. The End.
also australia and asia (the middle east).
Also Japan lol.
@@ArcantropoloLol fr AC shadows be like
Maybe Portuguese diplomats or merchants bringing their ... Ahem... servants with them. Although, what would the Portuguese be doing in Bohemia ?
@@theforsakeen177 Abo in Australia are not descendants of Africans despite their black skin. They're more closely related to Indian subcontinent Asians. Sub-Saharan Africans never invented transoceanic sailing.
My mother who was born in 1943 remembers the first time she saw a black person in Brighton in the mid 1950s
The chances of running across one in 1500s Bohemia ANYWHERE, including cities, were virtually none existent.
Trying to claim otherwise is ludicrous.
Even now in cities below 100000 people it is exceedingly rare. "Cosmopolitan" people just have now clue about daily lives of people beyond their bubble.
I life prety much in this area, just across the boarder in austria.
In my ruaral Village there are still no black people living here😅
This was an era where outside of Port cities and trading hubs you would be highly suspicious of people from even just a few villages away
i live in rural texas and i am one of only 15ish black students at the high-school i attend
i remember asking my ex if “every black person could dance” and she said, verbatim
“idk you’re the only black person i know and you can dance so ig”
B...b...but Robin Hood!!!
Archeologist from Scandinavia here. Im super grateful for Metatron's content here on youtube. Where so many other creators fall short in the neutral and scientific without politics approach the Metatron stand strong! Its truly a breath of fresh air and I strongly support and stand behind this content which is strongly aligned with what I was taught in university here. Just pure and simple historical accuracy should always be a pillar when creating or sharing information/content.
Thank you for your support!
This is so true. I can't even watch most of science UA-cam because they can't keep their fucking politics to themselves.
I found an archeology channel the other day that was interesting. It took less than 15 minutes for the topic to swap to "the Alt Right Pipeline."
No. They are politically incorrect! There is a Black Viking Queen in Netflix show already!!!
The people complaining are ussually people who aren't black and aren't gamers. Just random proffesional offended people looking for the next thing to feel offended by.
true but you also have ''black'' people that complain too.
Brainrot is universal you know
This game is set in Medieval Bohemia which is in fact a country where I come from and I feel proud that it represents our people and culture. We do not want any of the weird american propaganda so if anybody is complaining they can just piss off.
The Woke mind virus is modern day marxism which comes from Europe not America it is a weapon being used against us it is not something we are proud of or export.
WHAT? Bavaria ISN'T the end all be all in Germany?
Americans don't even run America anymore.
Američani nimajo svoje zgodovine, zato hočejo uničiti našo.
Přesně. Please, stop trying to appropriate our culture, stop trying to rewrite our history.
I feel really bad for Daniel Vavra. They used against him the worst insults possible just because he wanted his own game to be as historically accurate as possible. In fact, he even had to cancel his promotional visit to Spain, where the political climate is very polarized and conflictive, just because the spanish press and social media were literaly calling him n3Zi. Simply 🤬
Hence me making this video. I can't stand it when people don't do anything wrong, and they get canceled.
As a Spaniard...it makes me sad.
But don't worry, he has te truth on his side.
And we will defend him until the end for that.
We need to put pressure on Deep Silver not to put pressure on Warhorse. Deep Silver does not have a good track record.
Buy the game. Let us vote with our wallet, buff kingdom come and dry out ac shadows
@@aj.j5833 In this case, Warhorse is completely free of any outside interference. But, Dan himself said that due to current western insanity, he often wonders how much he self-censors subconsciously in order to avoid unwanted controversies. Nobody wants to release a game they work on for 5 years and then get plastered all over game journalist websites as someone horrible.
African trader in 15th century Ghana: Wife, i will be traveling to this village with a population of 120 people in the middle of europe, yes I will be crossing the ocean then a dozen other major european cities to sell my stuff there. Please pack my bags.
Africans never developed a written language
Wife: Are you insane? Bring me my sword. I'VE GOT CENTRAL EUROPE KNIGHTS TO SLAY.
@embee7434 hell yeah girl boss representation!!
Do not forget the Alps😂
@@leonjohnson9625coook 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Living in Czech, thanks for the video. It's a dangerous trend of people rewriting the history to fit their beliefs, or even worse judging history using todays standards....
I live in Bohemia in these days. The black population is 0.01 percent. Vastly increased from 400 years back.
Tbh i doubt its even that high, that would be 100k ppl, i live in Hungary, and id say its pretty comparable to Czechia in population numbers and ethnic composition, outside our capital i think ive seen black people like twice xd Central Europe is not LA as many ppl on twitter think
@@kaades_ your math ain't mathing. 0,01% of the entire Czech population would be about 1050 people.
@@blarfroer8066 oh shit xd you are right
Kinda forgot about that percent part...
@@kaades_ 100k of black in the most racist region of Europe is insane
Either come to Spain or travel to England or France. The percentages are much much much higher. And take this as a friendly advice: PROTECT YOUR COUNTRY FROM GETTING MORE OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS
A month ago, Kotaku and IGN said that KCD2 must be more diverse in the means of there must be more black people and to that I said:
"WHAT DO YOU MEAN MORE DIVERSITY???!!!!!
IT'S A FUCKING HISTORICALLY ACCURATE GAME"
Reject Wokeness, embrace Henry being hungry
Racial Marxism just became Black supremacy at this point.
Same as "diverse" means "less White".
Or "less light skin"...
Or "more Black".
I still worry about their publisher being Deep Silver. No matter who based the developer is, take Stellar Blade and what happened with that game due to publisher Sony.
Watch Warhorse get the last laugh for having germans, czechs, hungarians and cumans in Kuttenberg and then saying "See? Diversity. Just not the one you expected"
@Lowdian the craziest thing is the people who push for diversity also ignore the diversity in different ethnic groups and the nuances in their culture.
All they see is race - they are real life racists.
@@panzer00 Just remember when they call us a name they are projecting. they think if they think or feel one way so must everyone else.
People complaining about women in the first game is bonkers to me. They literally made a DLC called Women's Lot where you play as Theresa and it's one of the best DLC in the game. Instead of head on fighting it forces you to play stealthily and tactically. Guess they don't like REAL strong and empowered women because that's exactly what Theresa was.
They ignored the part where she saves Henry.
Well, a lot of the people who like to complain about the things you mentioned believe that there isn't a real difference between men and women, that the supposed differences between the 2 sexes are just enforced by a sexist patriarchal society.
Odds are, they'd be mad that you can fight with swords as Henry, but not as Theresa.
dude, they've never even played the game...
thoe who complain, never intended to purchase the game, or even read a tiny paragraph about the game. Do you expect them read about DLC that's past outrage lifespan?
@@hristohristov2882 Never played it, won't buy it, why on earth is ANYBODY paying attention to those useless eaters?
Kutná Hora city - Kuttenberg will be definitely the most diverse location from both KCD 1 and KCD 2. There is possibility to meet Czechs, Moravians, Silesians, German, Italians and Jews. There is a small chance to meet people from other close countries like Hungarians, Poles or French. But to meet someone from Subsaharian Africa? Very unlikely.
those are all white oppressors!!11 /sarcasm off
not unlikely, literally impossible. You'd NEVER see one, they'd be so novel, that it would be literally written down somewhere.
@@Whayleejay That is a bold statement. How would you prove that it is impossible to be from Subsaharan African and travel to Bohemia? And we don't have complete records of every event that happened in those times, including the movement of foreigners in Kuttenberg.
@@MiroslavDrozen it's not impossible for them to do it, what I am saying is that it didn't occur. Not "possible" of course it's possible. They didn't, they didn't go there, because of both lack of an incentive and difficulty. Humans aren't known for going out of their way to do difficult things for no gain.
@@Whayleejay yeah i mean the Romans didn't went south of North Africa because the difficulty of the Saharan desert (ofcourse you have other reasons but you get the point)
The game devs take pride in that series having as much historical accuracy as possible. Anyone wanting to deviate from said historical accuracy is actually trying to distort history for the sake of propaganda.
Very true
Exactly I’m so sick of this nonsense.
It really matters to me too because my love of history started with playing assassins creed back in the late 2000s. They wrote the story in a way where your character is peripheral to real history unfolding around you without altering it (too much). Games can be a gateway to other varied interests when every aspect is treated with care by the writers and devs. If you play the new AC you’re not going to be getting that authenticity, clearly.
The only time I would want the game let me subvert historical accuracy is if it let me do fun video game stuff like kill the king or build a castle.
@@metatronytthere are three gay people in the first game as well also Cumans are non whites
They are outside the game render distance.
Ok this one was gold I'm not gonna lie.
we wasz invisible n sheet
@@Blox117 invisible kangz
Occlusion culling 😆
No. They are politically incorrect! There is a Black Viking Queen in Netflix show already!!!
Anyone who thinks medieval settings need modern political theory needs to touch grass
No. They need to eat glass.
Or even visit rural areas in the US, Canada, and Europe.
Anyone thinking that this is a serious issue is literally brain damage.
They need to do more than touchgrass they need to be brought back to reality ASAP and should be totally ignored like they were in the past when s*** was better .
@@30noir hell no they need to experince how it feels to live in third world country. And how it feels to live back in those medieval time periods cuz I can 100% be certain any of the idiots speaking nonsense will get punished harshly even by the church for speaking heresy.
This whole "controversy" is purely American thing. It can be boiled down to "uneducated people are assuming stuff". They don't know anything about Europe in middle ages or even just Europe or just middle ages at all. They don't know how long, expensive, tedious and dangerous was traveling in that time and thus they don't know than very few people actually traveled outside their kingdom even once in their life time... most of people in middle ages didn't even personally knew someone who did. If anyone traveled anywhere it was for a very good specific reason. Most commerce done between mutually exotic places (like Africa and Central/Northern Europe) was done in Mediterranean ports and goods (like ivory) changed hands many many times before they got from lets say Ethiopia to Germany or anywhere in that geographical space. There were very very rare black people there but all 3 or 4 of them were servants at court of richest nobles and they basically never left his palace because their purpose was to pour drinks and more importantly be a living proof to his guests how rich he is... literally 0 chance to meet them in person. The most "exotic" person you could realistically meet was an Arabian/Jewish trader who tagged along with an envoy from some middle eastern kingdom to Rome and other important seats of power.
If it were purely an American thing, than Vavra would not have had to cancel his appearance in spain because he was being called a n@zi by people on social media and in the press there.
The far-left belief that equal representation is more important than history is as prevalent, if not moreso, in western Europe and Canada than it is in the USA.
Amen
@@lamebubblesflysohigh France, UK, Scandanavia and Canada are just as bad as USA with woke stuff, even worse actually.
They know they just don't care. It's not about reality It's about unattainable goals and division. The war isn't meant to be won.
No. They are politically incorrect! There is a Black Viking Queen in Netflix show already!!!
Diversity and inclusion only ever meant, "more black people."
Many Asian male, including India, Pilipin, Korean, Vietnam, japan and many more are not include in woke inclusion
It’s literally just a code word for anti-white. That’s it they don’t actually mean diversity
yes it's a black supremecist agenda
And more alphabet soup people.
Sadly yes to both of these comments
My background is South-east Asian and it's pretty obvious growing up in North America that diversity usually means Black, or Muslim. It's just political power play, it's not about cultural learning and exploration.
Yeah you describe USA. We here in middle Europe don't play that game ❤
True. Whenever liberal Americans talk about diversity and inclusivity, they always leave out Asians (excluding Middle East) and indigenous peoples and only talk about Hispanics, blacks, and Muslims.
Indeed, Chinese, Thai, and Japanese individuals have already been included as non-members of people of color in the United States. This may have been done to create vacancies in the DEI rankings, I presume. Alternatively, it could be an attempt to obtain additional subsidies for those who are idle.
Remember when there's a show with an all Asian cast (along with some Native Americans, if I heard right). And the first thing these people did is scream about the lack of "diversity".
That is despite the cast of the show mostly came from different ethnicities from one another
@@ryannathaniel9296 Which one? I watch a lot of k drama and these very same people would be screaming why k dramas only have Korean actors
The place in Bohemia where the game takes place does not have people like that NOWADAYS, let alone 621 years ago.....
Well... There are some Vietnamese people nowadays. But mostly yes.
A few of them yes, but its mostly just in Prague. Outside Prague its really rare.
@@RandomGuyplayschess-yv2op I wish most of the migrants in my country were Vietnamese tbh. Because, you know.
@@RandomGuyplayschess-yv2op Yeah, all of them arrived in last 30 years.
I have a friend who is from that part of eurpa and she always says that people of melanin are never seen in her village
I appreciate the level of respect Metatron brings in the video about KCD2 and the Czech history/culture in general.
Btw pronunciation of Dan Vávra is spot on. A little detail, but I wouldn't expect anything less from a UA-camr fluent in several languages.
As a black man I can confidently say they gotta have dat gravy in them castles son smh
Africa?
They dont care about Africa, pal.
It would be better if they just showed more games within an African setting but instead it seems like a few bad apples are trying to make the world hate black people even more than before over the dumbest stuff
If they want to set anything in Africa, they'd rather create a fictional country than representing actual cultures
A KcD in the African Kingdoms of Mali or smth... I should totally Buy it!
They don't care about that. They only care about African Americans.
As a Czech, I think Kingdom Come is well representative of our history. I don't know why some people feel the need to change it, personally I think Africa has a very interesting and to many people unknown history and if someone wants to make a game based on it, I'll be happy to play it. But instead all I see are empty gestures from people who don't care about history but only about their own agenda.
Exactly.
Well if you want to be historical the coneot of race didn't rally exist back in the day. There were much more non-white people than commonly believed, even though there were still very few.
You can find quite a few manuscripts and paintings of the era where you see non-whites and even in the city records you can read the various origin of the inhabitants.
@@schmidtleo_01 not in Bohemia. Fuck woke bs.
They don't honestly care because they would have to first learn about Africa, their culture, and mythology/lore to create a game based on that. They don't do that because it's easier to throw it in randomly for social credit points. They pretend to care, but just not enough to actually do the research.
Exactly. Racist people just want to erase the culture of others. An RPG set in Africa would look absolutely gorgeous, I would play that too!
what I find the craziest about people wanting black people in historically accurate games like KCD is the fact that if there WERE black people in the game the historically accurate dialogue from NPCs walking around and seeing them would be too offensive to actually include. Can you imagine the sorts of things a Bohemian farmer would say upon seeing a black dude for the first time?
I think he would not even live long enough to hear anything nice thrown at him because they would likely kill him. A black person would be considered the devil in person at times like these 😂😢
I wouldn't be surprised if they actually thought a black man was a demon with how different and unusual he looked.
People would consider him as čert (chort) a Czech/Slavic mythology creature Wich was christianized as form of devil (he have very dark skin), so people would be scare of black person literally 😅
They'd think it's the devil.
Curly black hair and black eyes occur in many Czech songs and are a sign of magic and betrayal and demonic powers. Skin colour isn't mentioned at all, it's always the hair and eyes. Even when people say that somebody is black, they are talking about hair and eyes, not necessarily the skin. A white person with dark hair and eyes will be talked about as "black" so there's another problem with relying on written sources.
They don't think about that part
I am a Czech from Prague. Prague naturally is the center and most cosmopolitan city in the country. And, even now, in 2024, it is extremely rare to meet a black person here who is not a tourist. It is not so uncommon to see an Asian person here, as they are running some business (mainly Chinese and Vietnamese restaurants and some other shops), but that's a matter of development let's say last 50 years. During communist era Czechoslovakia served as a place where people from developing countries is Asia and also Africa studied based on political connections between the "Eastern block" and these developing countries. As for Asians, they were first who was settling here in some higher than negligible numbers, built ties that provided further influx of mainly Vietnamese people. Still, there are only around 38,000 people living here who declare Vietnamese allegiance, with other Asians it might be some 45-50,000 people and that is the development of as I said last 50 years. As for black people, yes, asi I said, there was a some influx of African students during mainly 80s and 90s, but it occured very rarely that some of them settled there and even with recent refugee Wavesthe number did not increase recognizably, which also applies for people from the Middle east (we are not destiny for them). So as I said it is still very rare now and if so it is the development of the last quarter of the 20th century and 21st century. So imagining 15th century Bohemia as somehow ethnically diverse area when it comes to non-Europeans, is really bizarre.
Something like that would be extremely rare and could only occur on some very specific conditions. Yes, let's say some Italian merchant visiting mostly Prague could have a non white servant for instance, but putting such character into the game would require explanation of the background of such character, and while meeting with such character the other characters would not take it as normal but would be curious "who are you and how did you get here".
>it is extremely rare to meet a black person here who is not a tourist
Keep it that way
The most astonishing thing about this debate is that is actually a debate.
true. its bullshit
Queensub 2 resended
It's a debate because intellectuals have nothing more important to worry about these days.
The conversations that normally would have quickly ended with 'don't be so f****ng stupid', are now policy notes for some Western politicians. The inmates are truly running the asylum.
I wouldn't say it's a debate, I'd say it's a one sided lunatic shouting... The problem is we have to respond because we have already seen what happens if we dismiss those hysterical ppl as your average "delusional apocalypse preacher" 😅
Daniel Vávra is deeply hated by the left for his opinions and for a very good reason at that. He doesn't give a crap about any inclusion and just delivers the best gaming product. He really cares about history and I admire him for it.
Not all the left, just the very far left. That's like saying all the right are racists because that's common on the very far right, are you racist because you are politically on the right? As for myself being politically left I seriously dislike SJW's and completely disagree with them, I like accuracy in historical representation or in the race/sex of existing characters and hate it when those tools get involved. So next time you are about to say "the left" remember that you are saying the equivalent of "the right are all racist" and remember to add the word "extreme" or "Far" before left or just not say "the left" and be more correct.
@JETWTF
Lol who do you think fought against nazi ?
It's the right wing, central and conservative type of people
Recently a anti violence leftist shot Slovakia PM
Leftis talk about peace but given the power they will kill people who don't agree with them
@@JETWTF "As for myself being politically left I seriously dislike SJW's and completely disagree with them"
Same. Not all of them of course, but some of them go way too far with their 'activism'. During the Hogwart's legacy release for example, SJWs went around harassing anyone who streamed the game, even bringing one streamer to tears due to the constant harassment they received. Same stuff on reddit, constant attacks not just at people who played the game, but even people who were just like "eh, I don't think someone playing the game makes them a transphobe" would be called transphobes.
Those people 100% deserve every single bit of pushback they receive because they make their entire movement look bad. They're the equivalent of those idiots who camp in the middle of a busy street and block people who have places to be. No one stuck in their car for an hour is going to have an ounce of sympathy for whatever those people are protesting.
No he's not. He's hated by the SJW section among the extreme-left. That's quite a difference.
Especially using American political definitions where 'leftwing' translates as 'anything with views that don't rank as clinically insane such as saying being poor is always a choice, or women feel happier without human rights and with bombs going off at abortion clinics everything'.
Which means that 'left' is meaningless since it's 98% of opinions.
To the more sensible definition tons of leftwingers don't care about enforced American 'diversity'. The conservative left for example. The Dutch Socialist Party as a concrete example voted against the 2005 forced-diversity bill and their ideas are quite different, for example they are openly pro-Iran, pro-Russia and anti-Jewish with anti-semitic chanting a staple of their demos for 20 years now.
It's just some terminally online people stuck on reddit and tumblr, really.
Why isn't there any Irish gingers in any Romance of the Three Kingdoms adaptations?
Where are the Chinese people in the Iliad?
Why don't any movies about Ghenghis Khan have any Colombians?
Where are the Kangaroos in Lion King?
Why no Klingons in King Arthur?
NYPD Blue needs more Jedi!
Kangaroos in Lion King 😂😂
Actually, iIrc, there was a character in RoTK who was described as having a copper-red beard and pale skin. While he wasn't Irish per se, he probably was partially Celtic. Not completely improbable, since there was an account of a Celtic settlement in Western China along the silk road.
@@nickyliu8762 You would have a better chance of naming all the places the Irish arent found :D Hahahaha
KC:D1 was diverse. Germans, Bohemians/Czechs, and Cumans. I think I heard an English accent and even American ones, so for 1402 it was very progressive
Where are the black people in Ghost of Tsushima?
Well, that question has been answered by AC Shadow, lol.
@@samdaniels2
That is a completely different time period =/
@@vulfreyde I mean there are Greeks, Romans and Celtic Gladiators.
According to AC Japanese are Blacks.
Be funny if GoT puts a black guy in 13th century Japan.
"He is inserting his politics for refusing to have diversity in the game"
No, he's just not inserting YOUR politics into the game.
To the people who believe everything is political, absence of politics is a political statement.
@@GibsMeMunny I agree. And I find the entire idea of "everything is political" to be a self-fulfilling prophecy. Some things are only political because someone forcibly makes them so.
@@Jimbotheone As above so below, as below so above.
What are his politics? I just see someone not interested in perpetuating the rewriting of history that tends to happen when current conformity is being pushed among the people, willing or not.
@@cipherstormwolf14 as within so without..
Imagine having to be represented in every piece of media to validate your lifestyle.
Well, that is the point, isn't it? Not to be accepted, but validation at the cost of everything that doesn't.
The nigh persecution experienced by anyone to exhibits what the left calls “wrongthink” is legitimately nearing fascist levels of oppression.
It’s ironic tbh, they have become so politically-correct that they have become what they wanted to destroy. Idiots.
Theyre using black characters as checkmarks by this point
I mean look at star wars for example. They got a black saber wielding character on all the covers and what does he end up being in the end? A guy that shouts the main characters name 24/7
If the focus was on his the trilogy would be way less more shite
Imagine boiling your identity down to your most irrelevant characteristics, such that you can't feel represented by characters who are smart or courageous or passionate or loyal, etc. Those qualities aren't relatable to you.
Yeah... like all those movies set in non-white countries but star a white main character. How strange...
People thinking Bohemia would have significant number of Asians in it are the same type of people who think it's feasible to commute to work everyday from New York to San Francisco and back. By Foot. No idea of geography. 🤣
Asia cant be that far. I live in prague and my vietnamese collegue commutes on bike. Check mate
I once saw an article where some gamer complained about the racism of KCD and the lack of black people, arguing that it is historically proven that they were there. Because there are paintings of them!
Then he showed paintings of St. Maurice. An Egyptian... Yeah, picture of a Catholic saint from Egypt was used as a sincere proof that black people lived in medieval Bohemia.
Oh, my sweet summer child, you're about to be introduced to a world of conspiracies. "Egyptians were black."
"Black people inhabited Europe and were displaced by white people."
"It was actually black people who made Stonehenge".
"Romans were black."
Which sane mercenary who is coming from Africa, would pass through Eritrea, then pass by the paradise Egypt, garden Eden Mesopotamia, rich Syria, very rich Anatolia, Constantinople, venture through mountains full of professional nomadic Looters, venture through the swamps and dark forests of Europe, sprinkled with castles of professional pillagers, just to hire in Bohemia for below average pay???
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African mercenary? He would not have lasted TWO minutes in Southern Europe during that time, facing the European mercenaries (white and non-white) of the era. Let's not joke, please.
One adventurous homie.
@@massimilianomencacci2510there were definitively african (sub-saharan) especially from the east coast participating in wars during the middle ages, however their activity was mainly in the muslim world with some occasions facing christians
40 years ago there were no Africans in Bohemia and neither was there 600 years ago
40 years ago there were many african students on Czech universities... but usually they returned home to be usefull
@@janmlcoch8766 yes, may be total 100 african students at the same moment in whole czechoslovakia. I met first black guy in CZ in 2005 on university.
@@thePavuk me too, and the number of lower hundreds is fair many for our republic.
There was Mirecek and he was studying medicine :D And when stepan's mom saw him for the first time she almost got a heart attack :)
There was a story from the 14th century, I believe, of a archbishop or cardinal travelling through Bohemian Kingdom from Rome and encountering a milleress who was so devoutly religious she bought her own Bible. There might have been strong women in Medieval times, they definitely did not act or look the way we imagine them now. They would be effectively the head of the household, as it sometimes also happens today, but would have to let the man (or command the man) do his masculine duties outside their house and when interacting with the outside. When you look into the stories, tales, fairy tales of old Europe, you find many stories of basically matriarchal families and households. It was just still in the context where patriarchal hierarchies and households were more common.
It happened but rarely, (noble woman get away with crimes etc when they hide it from husband) but during hussite war's in the Táborité radical clan was woman warriors (not a first line mostly projectile support) but was there, they was most effective in battle of Vítkov.
In the the first KCD there's a conversation in the tavern of Sasau where an npc tells other drunks that he once saw people with skin as dark as night coming off a boat in Venice, the drunks don't believe him as soon as he starts mentioning how the city is built on the water and the people move using canals.
Ok, so there were blacks comming off boats in Venice. What does that prove. Until 1953 I lived in East Germany and never saw a black person. The blacks from Venice obviously didn't come that far North.
@cestmoi1262 Chill out dude, he's just mentioning cool piece of game's attention to detail and historical realism in its world-building. It wasn't supposed (at least I think so) to prove anything...
@@cestmoi1262 If isn't clear by the last part of my comment, that interaction illustrates the fact that the common people of that area of Bohemia don't know where Venice is let alone that black people exist and just take it as the ramblings of a drunk when told about it.
Damn, I have played this game around ten times and yet I have missed that dialogue
Man that's cool it definitely reminds me of RDR1 small mini game race with John, after you win it and you go and sit at a random campfire, you hear random people talking about the race that wasn't there, but they heard the rumors that a guy showed up one day out of nowhere, on a black or gray horse, he rode so fast until no one could keep up with him, and then he disappeared just as quick, some people say they race against the devil that day .
Those people will never play the game.
They hate you. They hate gamers. They want to destroy games and replace them with propaganda.
NEVER give them an inch. ALWAYS reject them.
They just want to dictate everyone else what to play
It is also right and just to ridicule them until they cry...and then ridicule them for crying.
Blackrock wants to know your location.
Question of representation is an important topic in modern society. It is sensible that people, who care about this topic and dont know the historical background, are concerned about it. Some media outlets therefore use it as a fuel to get views or readers, which is understandable. And it creates a chain reaction where Metatron is obviously defending against these media outlets, which he also does for the views. This system is messed up but don't just flame on people you don't know for no reason :]
MOVIES WERNT ENOUGH IT SEEMS
If Americans only knew how diverse Europeans are and how much "they love" each other 🤣
In America racism is casual.
In the Balkans is ranked.
Most normal Americans know bro. It’s these far leftists and college kids that are brainwashed that don’t know.
Also this kuttenberg Wich will be in the game was peak of Czech - German ethnic fighting and literally genocides there was right before hussite wars a murder of Czech miner's (pro Hussites) by Germans and during Hussites war it was opposite way 😂, so it's wierd they act like white is just one people
They had a whole semester dedicated to the history of European hatred of each other when I was in school.
@@brad4058 everyone hated each other or neutral at best
I love Jeremy Clarkson's hot take on diversity at a farm sale in the Cotswalds, "Amazon have said they want as much diversity in this show as we can possibly manage, and I think we're doing well because if you look, there's every different type of white 60-year-old man here."
As a Czech, this theatre was incredibly arrogant and ignorant. I grew up in a much bigger town than Rataje (the biggest town in KCD1) and I first saw a black person when I was 20. In Rataje, you do not have to speak about "traders" in middle age, my god!! Go there now, sit down at the main street and count blacks passing by. There is none even if you sit there the whole year.
Well, to be fair, due to KCD's popularisation of Rataje and surroundings, there might be some black tourist there once in a blue moon xD
Good for your country.
we got plenty in denmark. most are stranded here because they actually were going to sweden - sweden was very eager to give them all wellfare you see, it´s the only reason they came - our authorities made them stay however... we hardly give them anything though.
Yeah, I commute on public transport through the city center and the main square of Brno (2nd largest city in Czechia) every workday twice and I can count on one hand how many black people I see in a year.
Right?? Even in bigger cities like Olomouc, there is almost no black person :DD the only place I would expect to see one is Prague tbh
I mean if the LGBT crew wants some representation, they could add some burnings at the stake for them? Would they appreciate that inclusivity?
I am gay and I think they should add that. The past wasn't butterflies and rainbows. We have it so good now and for some people to think it's horrible need to see what it was like. I am appreciative of the fact that I don't live in fear. It's crazy how people have blinders on and can't look at actual facts.
I support this
I support the stakes.
@@gamer2101 Agreed. It fits the themes of the game as well. People put into a state of stress, panic, and rage from war often looked for scapegoats. People like us would fit the bill (perceived as perverted servants of Satan who brought the wrath of God upon the land, for example).
Caucasians were boy lovers. They embraced homosexuality. Especially Greeks and Romans.
These people are insufferable
I agree. I'm Asian American, and these people don't speak for me. They need to stfu! 🤦♂️
To be fair, everyone are insufferable.
@@BushidobullThe perpetual victims like that gay guy in the video are way worse. It's not even close.
@@Ewil.Bluetooth By being the forever victims they don't have to worry about being accountable for their actions.
I like KCD and the concept of KCD II because their will to historical accuracy. I have part I played quite often as for example "Baldurs Gate"
They are in Africa.
Yes
Where they belong!
@@Athanasios-pg2gf🎯
@@Athanasios-pg2gfnot if your almoravid or masmuda (almohad)
@@saratmodugu2721 those are arabs and amazighs from north africa they weren't black they looked Mediterranean and they invaded Spain not Bohemia.
It is simple. I am Czech. I live in city of 50K inhabitants. In my 37 years of living here, I have never met person of african descent in this town. Seriously. Never. And that is in 21st century, age of airplanes and globalization. Yes, we have roma, vietnamese, slovak and ukrainian minorities here. Most of whom arrived in 20th and 21st century (Roma started arriving in 15th I think). Now, I am not saying there is no black person in my city, but I doubt there are any significant numbers and if I was making a game about my city, I would not portray it as 2024 NYC, I can tell you that. I am extremely annoyed by western (mostly americans and brits) culture warriors who demand that everyone must cater to their imperialist US-centric melting pot view of the world. In fact, I find their obsession with black people in particular kind of creepy.
Normal Americans are annoyed by it too.
The ones who always talk about it are jobless and sit in their parents’ homes typing on their MacBook Airs.
The issue is, the moderators of subreddits and other online communities are also jobless losers - this results in echo chambers where all the leftist, jobless people sit around spreading their messages online like it is their job. It’s f*king insanity.
I totally agree with what you say this game better not have the wokeism, black lives matter, inclusively bullshit. Be proud of being a fellow Czech citizen I say.. am from the UK Wales and believe me I feel ashamed and pissed off to what's happening to my country. Before long the UK won't be majority white, just another infested shithole of people who culture I.E Islamic politics will want to take over. I hope Czech Republic defends its borders abd keeps its uniqueness. Basically stay white.
At least 50% of Americans and Brits agree with you… probably more than 50%.
@@qztip I hope so, but in that case you need to stop giving those crazies positions of power
@@8Paul7 voting isn’t very effective these days, I’m sorry to say.
Warhorse Studios work very closely with historians I think they know what they're doing, they're not changing history.
But Deep Silver. We as gamers must act pre-emptily with them make sure they don't try their BS with Warhorse Studio.
You couldnt be historian to know, that in the medieval era was practicly zero black people in Bohemia.
They understand what they're doing and thus have a deliberate intention of changing history. Black knights didn't exist. Even in Spain, where the Moors ruled, there were a few black people present, but they were mostly servants or soldiers, not knights or in positions of power. At the very least, they should give the black character a Moorish background.
Well if you want to be historical the concept of race didn't really exist back in the day. There were much more non-white people than commonly believed, even though there were still very few.
You can find quite a few manuscripts and paintings of the era where you see non-whites and even in the city records you can read the various origin of the inhabitants.
@@gustavpepa6462 You must be historian to know that. Foreign settlement, ethnic migration and history of medieval economics is the PhD level of knowledge. Than again, I am yet to see good source confirming african individuals, let alone settlements, in medieval central europe. What I know is one polish bishop named "Maurus", which can be both interpreted as him being from north Africa or some pet form of name "Maurice".
Well, we can discuss how many races were in Bohemia around the year 1403 and that they are not represented in the game. But I would say that children were definitely there, and yet most people don't question why they aren't in the game. :D :D
All this "backlash" sounds so much like trolling at this point, that I'll invoke Poe's law.
Blacklash , you say? 😊
@@RaelNikolaidis Woke-lash then? 🤣😂🤣😂
You misspelled 'black-lash' and I find both those terms offensive
@@ronin2963 Sorry, you lost me there 😂🤣
@@nicolasandresmartinez-cond126 sometimes you gotta laugh or you’ll cry. 😭
thanks metatron, I've been saying it for years that Africa has rich folklore and myths and stories that can be told in games, and movies, but lets be honest, Triple AAA studios are to afraid and would rather shove black people in things that people probably weren't in
Absolutely and that's why we resist those corporation, because if they really cared we would get AC Ethiopia. That would be "stunning and brave", not the race swapping. That's anything but.
Screw them I as an African would rather see indie studios make stories based on our history.
@@admirekashiri9879I'd love to see an immersive historical game from Ethiopia.
@@admirekashiri9879and as an European I would certainly like to hear some fresh tales never told (here) before. But I get it most studios will stick to what they know about and African folklore probably isn't on top of the list.
@@afiiik1 One set during the Adal Abyssinian war would be epic.
It is interesting that no one has yet mentioned one specific historical source that describes an encounter of Czechs with African blacks in the 15th century. In 1465 (about two generations after the story of KC-D takes place), the King of Bohemia sent an envoy to the Duke of Burgundy, King of France and King of Portugal. A member of the delegation was a young knight named Václav Šašek of Bířkov, who left a lengthy travelogue. During a visit to Lisbon, Czech diplomats saw black slaves imported from Africa and asked the Portuguese nobles about their origins. Václav Šašek recorded this episode as remarkable.
Yes that was under king George of Poděbrady, so called "Hussite King" he sent a "propaganda" contingent around Europe to prove Czechs aren't "devil sinner's" but a knighthood Land. He also proposed something like "European union" in medieval times with heart at France , but got approval only in Poland.
Historical accuracy is the most important.
Probably in Africa getting enslaved by the African kingdom of Kongo.
Congo*
I dont want "diversity" tyvm. Im English and I want my Heritage and Ancestral homeland to be displayed Correctly. If these people want Africa then they can make a game based in Africa.
Man wouldn’t that be a hit! Going to get to work right now
I agree! Just know it’s not all of us asking these stupid questions. I sure as hell would cringe if I saw a token black character in KCD2 or any IP meant to be in ancient or medieval Europe.
Now imagine what could happen if there was a new movie or game set in England during the mid-14th century. "What?! They cast a white guy as the Black Prince?!?"
What the people advocating for diversity (and massive immigration of course) do not want to see, is that the diversity of culture is already a thing, if you zoom out a little bit, the world is diverse. Now if you mix and blend everything, every culture into every country, what do you get.. we don't know really.
What fun! A game set in Africa where you are an African tribe capturing rival African tribes and selling them to others!
from a black, can these people stop trying to force us into places we shouldn't be and, i don't know. MAKE A GAME OR SOME SUCH SET IN AFRICA OR AN AFRICAN COUNTRY?! RESEARCH TEAMS EXIST FOR A REASON!
you dont wanna die in the plauge? its called the black plauge for a reason so you gotta show solidarity brother
@@Bcorcoran100 ya know what, i should have specified the location. i was caught lacking, and am i am sorry.
@@Bcorcoran100 It is called black plague, because it creates black blisters on the skin.
Speaking as a white person, I would LOVE to play as an African person in an African setting!
@@yenimitnellenellen747 yea know what, i would love to play a european person/white person, in a white person european setting! ITS ALMOST LIKE ITS JUST COMMON BACKGROUND INDENTIFICATION OR COMMON DECENCY!
I love the atmosphere and authentity of kcd.
It amazes me that this has to even be explained or even be a discussion.
Yes.
Choosing gender in this type of game must be:
1. List of all genders to choose
2. If xou choose something else than male or female, you start game screaming on burning stake
3. Game over
This is most historically accurate for dark age Europe.
Nah. Depending on your social status you could get away with homosexuality in the medieval period.
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I mean, if you choose something else than male or female, there's a very high chance you'll just be treated like male or female anyways. They weren't that eager to burn people unless they literally caught them in the act of having gay sex.
Though it interestingly wasn't all bigotry.
I remember reading about the case of a person who was born with both male and female sex characteristics and who was raised as a girl. Later on that person fell in love with a woman and wanted to marry them, which obviously they couldn't just do like that because well, same sex marriage was not allowed. This person was able to go to a court and manage to be legally recognized as a man instead after proving that they had male sexual characteristics, which meant they got the go-ahead to marry the woman they loved and were granted all other legal privileges of being a man.
A lot of the time, the people back then weren't outright hateful, they just weren't sure how to categorize certain things and unless the subject was gay sex which the bible explicitly condemned, there often was a bit of room for negotiation.
@@gehlesen559 Well, homo-sexuality isn't a "gender" (sex) - read the comment you replied to. Sometimes, men (male) and women (female) were homosexual, but still men and women.
@@BlackQback you have three options in the medieval period: 1 male, attracted to females, female attracted to males, and male or female attracted to anything else.
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@@gehlesen559 I know. But read the comment you first replied to (not mine). Twice if you need to.
Keep fighting the good fight Metatron! Bravo! I give you this inspirational quote:
“They tried to bury us, but they didn’t know we were seeds” - attributed to the Greek poet and scholar Dinos Christianopoulos.
Lets not forget there are actual Cumans from Asia, germans and hungarians in the first game. And thats pretty diverse for me(not a norm in that place)
someone make a movie/game set in pre-colonial sub-saharan Africa and then watch the endless critique about the "lack of white people" that will totally happen.... bruh...
Dude, they are progs...
They can't ACCEPT their hypocrite statements.
Tbh I wish they'd stop whinging about medieval Europe not being portrayed as "diverse" by modern definition and actually make those pre-colonial sub-saharan African movies. There's so much you could do, but they'd rather complain than make historically epics that are accurate.
I'd play a shaka zulu grand strategy game or a mansa musa economy focused game in a heartbeat. we're literally missing out on good ideas because a whole faction of people is focused more on destroying white history than celebrating black history.
@@LordVader1094 they won't they hate wyite people
The real story of Mansa Musa. Staring Jackie Chan.
I'm sure a lot of people hate you for your honesty, but dont give up, people will common sense will support you
Remember when wakanda stormed the beaches of Normandy and put a man on the moon.
Me either..
Remember when Asgard got their butts handed to them by wood shield wearing spear chuckers in the first Asgard-Zulu war?
Pepperidge Farm remembers.
6 mil yrs and they invented the Stick.
@@fetus2280dude we Africans had our own weapons and culture in Africa. Don't be blind to your own hate.
@@HelpMe-nd4mb Yup, sticks and hide shields. Not hate, Reality. Deal with it.
@@HelpMe-nd4mb yeah, sticks with rocks at the end.
It would be quite disrespectful to include regular black people in KC2. Just because Czechs are white doesn't mean we don't have our own culture which should be respected. As someone from small town in Moravia (eastern part of Czech Republic) who saw a black person in CZ for the first time at the age 20 when I started studying in Prague I can say black people are EXTREMELY uncommon even today (everywhere else than in the two biggest cities).
Why is it so insanely to controversial to say that African people are from Africa?
Because the racists think white people could not have possibly lived in white-only cities and towns.
They’re not only racist, they’re also historical revisionists, which I’d argue is even more dangerous.
Because before you know it Europeans are allowed to say that Europeans are from Europe and it's their continent and they get to say how to run it.
@@FrancisFjordCupola There are, sadly, way to many people that can't fathom that White people can be indigenous. Like Europeans are..
I am a strong empowered woman and I ask for the TRUTH to be represented!!!
Thank you, FEARLESS LEADER!!! ❤
Same damn question. Every damn time, someone makes something that takes place in medieval Europe.
But I'm happy that Metatron has the energy to answer that question.
People who criticize this game for lack of diversity I criticize for lack of love for truth. Such people should be ashamed!
(as our PRague's Castle Flag says: Love and Truth Will Win!)
In África, specifically in the subsaharan part.
Thanks for the TED talk.
ASCHTUALLY...indigenous australian are black, north africans kingdoms apart from blacks merchants also used blacks as soldiers in their armies, so did muslim asiatic kingdoms in the middle east.
@@theforsakeen177 Indigenous australian are different despite the looks. North africans kingdoms? Muslim asiatic kingdoms? You forgot they had slaves and mercenaries were rare in muslims kingdoms.
@@theforsakeen177 Indigenous australian / aborigines are not black sub-saharan people. They are genetically more related to none sub-saharan than to the black sub-saharan africans.
@@theforsakeen177 Abos are genetically related to sub-saharan africans? Wow, never knew.
The aboriginals of Australia are not related to sub-saharan Africans as they can have blonde hair and blue eyes.
These people don't need to get any attention from the developers. Also, they don't need to get explanations about historical accuracy, since they don't care to listen. They just want to culturally appropriate everything and cancel people that don't agree with their insanity.
they want to destory wyite people
There is already a gay character in KCD. In the monastery one of the novices is so deviated he was forced into cloister.
The main bad guy Istvan Toth is also gay and you capture his lover and use him to negotiate the end of the final seige. People complained without even playing.
I mean the game is inclusive and diverse by default, representing Czech people. It boggles my mind how this is so hard to understand for some people. They want every franchise to be the same, instead of every franchise being unique and different, which is diverse on realistic, macro scale. So their goal should not be to change existing stories, but to push to tell different stories altogether, so the sum total of the choice of games, movies and shows is very diverse. Not enough black people in media? Well make a show in modern day USA or in Africa. Too many white people? Shelf this medieval fantasy show for now, or green light some other show or a game taking place in different setting.
When it comes to the last bit of the video about fictional settings, yes I don't mind it having many ethnic groups together, if this is how the setting is conceived from the start, especially if it's still explained in the lore. DG2 was a good example where it made sense. If they change existing universe like LOTR or The Witcher then it's wrong for the same reason changing history is wrong.
I would like to join the discussion with a counter question. Since we are talking about being inclusive. If there were a video game, movie or story about tribes in Africa, do we also have to add in white western people, Native Americans, Latin or people from Asia?
I'll support KC:D2 on release. Not only the first one was fantastic but also completly free of modern day bulls**
"Ayo hol up, you finna tell me we wuzn't Bohemian Kangz?!"
You spend too much time on black Twitter 😂
Charles IV had black servant (a gifted slave) in his royal court 😂
Das rite, and he taught the white caveman how to bathe and season they food @@holextv5595
@@holextv5595 Wow cool, guess we should make 75% of the characters black now.
hey man, most black people dont believe in this stuff so don't insult all of us
It is very hard to explain a person who follows a certain ideology about historical and scientific facts. They want to push todays political agendas into times where they were not present and feel then attacked if they do not find them there. But to become more specific, how should black people actual get there and what reasons should they have to stay there? There was no need and no slavery of black people in that region, so no one would have taken black people there, no black person would have had a reason to go there and they would have no reason to stay in that culture.
Funny thing is- Warhorse's last expansion for KCD was Women's Lot what let you see world from Theressa's pov. Way they implemented it to game in my humble opinion was great, she knew realities of her situation and surroundings and went through huge personal drama and through her view we saw what we couldn't see with in Henry's pov. Yet this political activists would only be happy if Theressa would have been main character, having love relation with black women and become Emperor of Holy Roman Empire.
I like Women’s Lot but not being able to put some armor on was annoying. Of course it would fit poorly & slow her down, but then, i just cheesed all the baddies with a bow anyway
Admittedly the fantasy scenario you proposed probably would make for an interesting fantasy game
Might as well be asking why you can't cast fireball in this historically accurate medieval sim game
"Where are the black people in Kingdom Come Deliverance 2?"
Evidently in AC: Shadows...
oh this is hilarious. Good answer. Cheers 😉
I am laughing so hard :D
@@cat-le1hf Hope u are being sarcastic for humor's sake, otherwise you are "restarted"
@@cat-le1hf What a terrible comment, you restart.
@@cat-le1hf bro who gives a sht if he is real, too many people waiting for an ac samurai game with a male japanese as main character in mind. Is that so hard to understand you "restart" HAHAHHA
I don´t have access to these works, but it seems medieval Bohemia was more diverse than usually assumed. At least three historians covered it -
Jaroslav Panušák - a Czech historian who has written extensively on the topic of diversity in medieval Bohemia and the role of people of color in the region.
Petr Sommer - another Czech historian who has written about the presence of Asians and Africans in Bohemia during the Middle Ages.
Hana Pátá - a Czech historian who has written about the trade and cultural exchange between Bohemia and other regions, including Africa and Asia.
KCD is set in Bohemia. I can’t say I’ve ever been to Bohemia but in a few years of living in and visiting Russia and Ukraine, I don’t think I saw a single black person. Even today after the Western European slave trade importing black people for centuries and now large scale immigration from Africa into Europe, they are still rare in Central and especially Eastern Europe. KCD takes place before the slave trade and before easy long distance travel.
I’m all for accurate representation… But the thing about representation… Is it has to actually represent something. What nonexistent Medieval Bohemian black people was KCD supposed to represent?
The African slave trade didn't bring people into Europe. The market was basically out to the colonies.
@Dave-ks9fi
True. Also, even though intra-African slave trade existed since thousands of years ago, European involvement in the slave trade didn’t exist until at least 50-100 years after the renaissance began. That’s way after the medieval period ended.
I am from Czech Republic and you have right. In medieval Bohemia was practicly zero black people. Meet black guy in Bohemia in that time was like "win the first price in lotery".
@@gustavpepa6462 Perhaps Emperor Rudolf II (or Rudolf I in Bohemia) could have had one in his collection of art and curiosities, but that was in 16th and 17th c. (turn of the century).
Ok, I agree that there were very few black people in Bohemia at that time. Regarding the present day, haven’t you been to Kyiv, Lviv, or Kharkjv? Before the war in these cities there were a lot of black African students studying in universities.
I remember the creator of the game address this before the first one came out. When he said there was no blacks in that area at that time based on the historians he consulted, he got a reply: "What about the Moors?". Lol.
Lets use a more simple argument:
Mostly of the times a place Will be arround the people of that place.
There is where their hypocresy Starts...
I can't wait to play this game !!!! i just recently started my 2nd playthrough of KCD1 right now.
I should do the same.
I was disgusted at the lack of Australians in the first game considering it's set near Austria.
One funny thing about KCD1 is that black people were breifly mentioned in one tavern talk, the local charlatan was talking about how he saw a man in prague in all black as if he was the shadow or something like that, when i heard it late at night in the tavern it made me chukle mostly when the locals talking with the charlatan did not belive him at all.
The idea of Czech Republic being Eastern European is a remnant of the cold war and the political idea of "Eastern Europe".
There’s that stupid misconception some people have of viewing western slavs (czechs, slovaks and poles) as some kind of russian offspring. That’s completely false, these nations have adopted christianity and established their own feudal kingdoms hundreds of years before russia even existed.
If there are black people in a medieval Europe drama i will not go see it.
Depends were that drama is set...... In the huge trade hubs of the Mediterranean, like Constantinople, Venice, Genoa etc I bet you could find some. And there would definitely have been a population of black people in the parts of the Iberian peninsula that were controlled by Moors. Having small numbers of black people there would be fine. Central and Northern Europe, not so much....
@@nickklavdianos5136please just dont happen in the heartland of bohemia or anywhere DIDN’T mentioned them
If it’s authentic that shouldn’t be an issue. Some black people did indeed go into the Iberian Peninsula with the Moors (Berbers and Arabs). But, if it’s forced like having a black Bohemian knight then ye avoid that nonsense.
...kind of missed the point of the video if that's your view. Black people did *exist* in medieval Europe, just not in significant numbers and it highly depends on *where* the setting is whether there are more or less of them around. So if a historical drama just so happens to feature a port town in Spain and a black guy is in the background working on the docks it isn't pushing some "inclusivity" agenda...that's just something that could have happened at the time.
@@nickklavdianos5136 Moors aren't black, neither were Nubians, Punics, Berbers, Tuaregs, or anyone north of the Sahara.
The only ones who made it up there rarely went past the Arab world, and most of those did so as eunuchs in chains.