Well, technically, he's right. His HAND was indeed moving forward. The issue is that by the time his hand began to move forward, he no longer had the FOOTBALL in it.
Some of my favorite plays... the guys who pick up these live balls and return them show that they are TUNED IN to the game. They know the rules and are aware of what's happening beyond just their assignment. Fun stuff!
Every NFL coach should play this video along with instructions to take possession of any ball in the field of play and let the refs sort out whether it was an incomplete pass or not.
I hate “his hand was moving forward” argument. It doesn’t matter if his hand is moving forward if he has already lost control of the ball, which is the definition of a fumble.
NO IT DIDN'T!! I have VHS I filmed myself in the 1980's on a cheap camera and it looks better than that. I don't understand why the pros have film that looks worse than mine.
Not how that works, its the quality of the media and it being hilarious degraded, and not transferred to a better format when available. Dont get me wrong, watching in 480 was bad, but it wasn't unbearable mess.
The QB has to have control of the ball moving his arm forward when the ball is dislodged. Rodgers knew right away that the first play was a fumble. Why else would he be right where his teammate picked it up.
Seeing Ray Lewis be among those just sitting around watching the ball just kinda lay there doing nothing is a good reminder that even the all time greats arent perfect
KUDOS to the players who had their heads in the game! About 95% of players are more concerned with celebrating instead of focusing on what's really going on. If I were coaching and one of my players showed off for no other reason than to draw attention to himself, I'd send him to the shower.
If I'd walked up to a ref while he was making a call and yelled "HIS HAND WAS MOVING FORWARD!" I think my coach would still be yelling at me to this day...
As someone who's never played sports before, here's a dumb question: Can the players actually hear the ref's whistle on the field, in those massive stadiums packed with noise? Because if they *can* hear it each time, I cannot understand why they're not playing until the whistle. If they cannot always hear it, I could understand them assuming the play was dead based on how most similar plays look, and just that they couldn't hear the whistle as per usual.
I was a ref for local football with no crowd, and sometimes they didn't hear a whistle (or not). I think it's just brain fades, although I'm sure in a stadium it could be harder at times
I only played in high school, but when you have your head inside a plastic shell getting bashed around, some wind whistling by your earholes, and a ref who thinks he'll use the whistle up if he toots it more than a microsecond, you can definitely miss it. Never had much of a crowd at my games, but I'm sure crowd noise contributes too. In my opinion every whistle to end a play should be held a full 2 seconds.
The Saints at the time were very mad about this play because people were coming off and on the field. Essentially, it was a wild card play. The next offseason, the league got rid of it.
Imagine if instead of running he just casually meandered his way towards the endzone. How long do you think it would take the defense to cotton on? 1 minute? 2 minutes?
I don't understand how a pro player can stand right next to a ball that's rolling to stop on the ground and just ignore it. If you don't hear a whistle, pick it up, of course. But even if you think you've heard a whistle, pick it up anyway just to make sure - you're right there! That's what I would do. I'm not talking about if the ball is 15 yards away and you have to hustle past a bunch of guys, I understand doing that after every play just to be sure would be impractical. I mean if the ball is right next to you anyway, like in some of these clips, you might as well just bend over and pick the thing up. What's the worst that could happen?
"His hand was moving forward!" 🤣 If I'd walked up to a ref while he was making a call and yelled that, I'd have been sitting on the bench for at least the next few games.
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@EmberTheFlareon3579 ??? The guy who picked it up was in his own end zone and the other team couldn't take possession unless someone on the receiving team touched the ball first. It *was* a touchdown when he reached the other endzone.
On that first one it's really unbelievable No. 50 on the Bears doesn't just pick it up and run just in case, especially when he didn't hear a whistle. He could have run a long time since all the Packers were just standing around too.
As a football ref soccer to you across the pond and a cricket umpire all be it at an amateur level the first thing I would do if I was a Manager of any sports team is make all my players take and pass the Ref;s exam, the players may or may not have done so so but they knew the rules....and as a Ref we appreciate it
@@sebastianbenner977 I think it had to do with both teams' entire benches thinking the play was over, so they started walking onto the field to switch to the correct offense/defense squads. The result would be a penalty for both teams for having too many people on the field. The Rams could decline the penalty against the Saints to try and get their points, but the Saints would refuse to decline the penalty against the Rams, so it would be a net negative for the Rams as a result.
you do realize people would listen to sports games on radio? shitty no color resolution was still better then no video, just audio.. before radio it was just stories..
Not as bad as it looks. These clips are from people who taped the shows on VHS and then later converted them to DVDs and then uploaded them to the Internet. Then this channel grabbed them and made a compilation.
I am curious what the refs would do after a few minutes of players standing around knowing it was a live ball. One day I hope something like that happens and the video is posted on UA-cam.
The play keeps going on and the game clock will keep running. The coaches know when the play is still going on; they are the ones screaming for the players to pick up the balls.
I remember when this game happened for the bears. It's b******* cuz Roger's hand was moving forward. But then again I can't count on all my fingers and toes how many times the Bears have been screwed by NFL officials in the last 10 years
Plaxico Burress played for the Steelers in 2005, that's only 19 years ago, that footage of Plaxico on ESPN, C'Mon man, we had 1080p 19 years ago, it's like they dug up 180p instead.
Imagine being Julius Peppers and making a great play forcing a fumble only to have your teammates completely shit the bed and let the team you just forced a fumble on score the easiest TD of their life.
I really think they need to start using common sense on forward psst vrs fumble. If the ball moves forward its likely a forward pass. If it goes backwards it's likely a fumble.
1:45 " Illegal substitution on the return team. Nine-hundred and fifty four players on the field, half of whom aren't even in uniform. Five yard penalty. Re-kick."
Football is easier to bet on than any other team sport. Soccer or Hockey, a hot goalie or a freak goal changes the outcome. Basketball, a team could get hot from 3 or be ice cold and that's the game.
1:07 "HIS HAND WAS GOIN FORWARD" lol
Well, technically, he's right. His HAND was indeed moving forward. The issue is that by the time his hand began to move forward, he no longer had the FOOTBALL in it.
Fuckin killed me lmao
Seahawks fan 😂
much credit goes to the refs who correctly called these plays and didn't blow the whistle too early.
Credit to the camera operator at 1:50 who kept following the play. But not to whoever decided to cut to a different camera.
And to the players who kept their heads in the game and realized the reason they never heard a whistle was because the ref never blew it...
Not to the refs in the first clip, that call was BS
@@DanielDuhon .... after rewatching that play i agree. that call was definately bogus. damned refs. they can't get nothing right. oh wait....!
I love how number 28 for the Rams was immediately aware of the situation and went full speed.
Didn't matter that there were 40 players on the field
@@michaeld6147 where do you see 40 players on the field?
@@logicalblackman8228 There were players from both teams coming off the field, and players from both teams coming on to the field.
@@michaeld6147 where does it show that?
And went coast to coast...
"HIS HAND WAS MOVING FORWARD" LMFAO
Play till the whistle
Tuck rule.
One game its the tuck rule, then incomplete pass, then fumble, then illeagal man down field. Thats entertainment.
Richard Sherman lol.
It wasn't Sherm it was Earl Thomas
In any sport, always, always play to the whistle
I tried this in bowling. Family wouldn't talk to me for a week
@@44lionsfanabout to say the same thing about baseball
Doesn't work in golf, they kick you off the course.
On a more serious note, the way the rules are with replay, just take it to the house and let the refs sort it out.
Does that include baseball?
"Did you hear a whistle?" - every coach, every time
Some of my favorite plays... the guys who pick up these live balls and return them show that they are TUNED IN to the game. They know the rules and are aware of what's happening beyond just their assignment. Fun stuff!
What's crazy is most of the teams that were the beneficiary of a free play, even touchdown, ended up losing anyway lol
Plexico really shot himself in the foot on that play.
🤣
Well done sir, well done.
Damn, you beat me to it 😂
You just won the internet.
Every NFL coach should play this video along with instructions to take possession of any ball in the field of play and let the refs sort out whether it was an incomplete pass or not.
I hate “his hand was moving forward” argument. It doesn’t matter if his hand is moving forward if he has already lost control of the ball, which is the definition of a fumble.
Tell that to an og Patriots fan. They might have a thing or two to say about the "tuck rule"😂
Bro, if I'd yelled that at a ref, my coach would have benched me for the next few games.
Joey Harrington ... my god those were dark days for my Lions. Looks like a much brighter future now though! Fingers crossed...
Ya kids, that’s what television used to look like.
Try hockey on a black and white TV in the 70s.
NO IT DIDN'T!! I have VHS I filmed myself in the 1980's on a cheap camera and it looks better than that. I don't understand why the pros have film that looks worse than mine.
Not how that works, its the quality of the media and it being hilarious degraded, and not transferred to a better format when available. Dont get me wrong, watching in 480 was bad, but it wasn't unbearable mess.
It did not whatsoever look like that.
Dude mentioned Aaron Rodgers off rip with this grainy ass film and I thought the same
The "Tuck Rule" made some of these plays ridiculous
A real tuck rule unlike brady
To all those that are saying well his hand/arm was moving forward yeah well it's moving forward without the ball in control
The QB has to have control of the ball moving his arm forward when the ball is dislodged. Rodgers knew right away that the first play was a fumble. Why else would he be right where his teammate picked it up.
@@Paulafan5exactly if he would have had control of the ball when his arm was going forward it would have been rolled incomplete pass
Seeing Ray Lewis be among those just sitting around watching the ball just kinda lay there doing nothing is a good reminder that even the all time greats arent perfect
KUDOS to the players who had their heads in the game! About 95% of players are more concerned with celebrating instead of focusing on what's really going on. If I were coaching and one of my players showed off for no other reason than to draw attention to himself, I'd send him to the shower.
I can still hear my coach yelling at me about playing until you hear the whistle
20 years later.. Yep I hear there voices saying that...
If I'd walked up to a ref while he was making a call and yelled "HIS HAND WAS MOVING FORWARD!" I think my coach would still be yelling at me to this day...
Thumbs up for making the thumbnail picture the first clip.
I think I remember the Plaxico Burress one. I was watching my Vikings and it was shown as a gamebreak.
As someone who's never played sports before, here's a dumb question: Can the players actually hear the ref's whistle on the field, in those massive stadiums packed with noise? Because if they *can* hear it each time, I cannot understand why they're not playing until the whistle. If they cannot always hear it, I could understand them assuming the play was dead based on how most similar plays look, and just that they couldn't hear the whistle as per usual.
I was a ref for local football with no crowd, and sometimes they didn't hear a whistle (or not). I think it's just brain fades, although I'm sure in a stadium it could be harder at times
I only played in high school, but when you have your head inside a plastic shell getting bashed around, some wind whistling by your earholes, and a ref who thinks he'll use the whistle up if he toots it more than a microsecond, you can definitely miss it. Never had much of a crowd at my games, but I'm sure crowd noise contributes too. In my opinion every whistle to end a play should be held a full 2 seconds.
2:16….why was this rule ever changed?
The Saints at the time were very mad about this play because people were coming off and on the field. Essentially, it was a wild card play. The next offseason, the league got rid of it.
@@sijdnsd6460,
Basically, they didn't like that no one knew the play was live... so they the league got rid of the play. *Shakes Head*
So now its a automatic touchback??
Imagine if instead of running he just casually meandered his way towards the endzone. How long do you think it would take the defense to cotton on? 1 minute? 2 minutes?
2:47 if he didn't spike the ball and just broke out into a run for his endzone, would they have given him it? Pfft, unlikely. Little jank ijs
I don't understand how a pro player can stand right next to a ball that's rolling to stop on the ground and just ignore it. If you don't hear a whistle, pick it up, of course. But even if you think you've heard a whistle, pick it up anyway just to make sure - you're right there! That's what I would do. I'm not talking about if the ball is 15 yards away and you have to hustle past a bunch of guys, I understand doing that after every play just to be sure would be impractical. I mean if the ball is right next to you anyway, like in some of these clips, you might as well just bend over and pick the thing up. What's the worst that could happen?
"His hand was moving forward!" 🤣
If I'd walked up to a ref while he was making a call and yelled that, I'd have been sitting on the bench for at least the next few games.
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Alot of new rules would make some of these plays dead before the touchdown. NFL ruined alot about football over the years. It's more like chess today
That punt doesn't happen today. The moment the ball touches the ground in the endzone it's dead.
Ya. I wish they hadn’t changed that
@@TexansFan218
when did they change this rule
@@Michael-sb8jf It was in 2004. It was this play that caused the rule change.
My question is, how did they not call it a TD? Dude was well in the endzone.
@EmberTheFlareon3579 ??? The guy who picked it up was in his own end zone and the other team couldn't take possession unless someone on the receiving team touched the ball first. It *was* a touchdown when he reached the other endzone.
This is the opposite of the Titans-Lions Thanksgiving not-whistled-down-when-he's-down moment.
The last one was a bad call. He releases the ball on the 31 and it lands right on the 30.
Some of these plays are now totally impossible by the rule that the offense cannot advance a fumble by the offense.
Play 'till you hear a whistle. Every coach tells their players this all the time. How quickly they forget LOL
Joey Harrington was so awful that his bad pass attempt actually led to a good gain for the Lions
Pittsburgh/Jacksonville - it that's not a good example of watching an idiot in action, I don't know what is.
On that first one it's really unbelievable No. 50 on the Bears doesn't just pick it up and run just in case, especially when he didn't hear a whistle. He could have run a long time since all the Packers were just standing around too.
The second stupidest thing Plaxico Burress has done.
I my school days... I went to a few schools from 7-12 grade.. All my coach's always said "play till you hear the whistle....."
As a football ref soccer to you across the pond and a cricket umpire all be it at an amateur level the first thing I would do if I was a Manager of any sports team is make all my players take and pass the Ref;s exam, the players may or may not have done so so but they knew the rules....and as a Ref we appreciate it
1:43 is so great
Why was that not a touchdown as soon the player entered the end zone?
@@sebastianbenner977 I think it had to do with both teams' entire benches thinking the play was over, so they started walking onto the field to switch to the correct offense/defense squads. The result would be a penalty for both teams for having too many people on the field. The Rams could decline the penalty against the Saints to try and get their points, but the Saints would refuse to decline the penalty against the Rams, so it would be a net negative for the Rams as a result.
If you don't hear the whistle, KEEP PLAYING
Play until the whistle is blown 🤌🏾
Imagine your whole job is playing football and not knowing the rules. Professional athletes honestly are so lazy at times.
They're paid to be paid, sports is an afterthought.
Play until you hear the whistle.
Oh man those are EMBARRASSING!
TV resolution was so bad in the 80's it's a miracle people even watched sports. That's what I thought back then, too.
you do realize people would listen to sports games on radio? shitty no color resolution was still better then no video, just audio.. before radio it was just stories..
@@o1-preview Imagination has better resolution than 480p.
Not as bad as it looks. These clips are from people who taped the shows on VHS and then later converted them to DVDs and then uploaded them to the Internet. Then this channel grabbed them and made a compilation.
@@christinef7739 It's as bad as I remember it.
@@anotherlover6954 Whatever. I'm not going to argue with you, except to say you must have had a crappy TV.
I can't watch this. Smh
Play till the whistle
I remember watching that Bears game and screaming at the Bears players to jump on that ball. I was so pissed off....
U always play to the whistle and at least wait til the whistle to celebrate.
For the love of God people! If you don't hear a whistle...HOLD ONTO THE BALL!!!!!!
I am curious what the refs would do after a few minutes of players standing around knowing it was a live ball. One day I hope something like that happens and the video is posted on UA-cam.
The play keeps going on and the game clock will keep running. The coaches know when the play is still going on; they are the ones screaming for the players to pick up the balls.
I remember when this game happened for the bears. It's b******* cuz Roger's hand was moving forward. But then again I can't count on all my fingers and toes how many times the Bears have been screwed by NFL officials in the last 10 years
Plaxico Burress played for the Steelers in 2005, that's only 19 years ago, that footage of Plaxico on ESPN, C'Mon man, we had 1080p 19 years ago, it's like they dug up 180p instead.
I love when the thumbnail is the opening clip. Then that way I don’t have to wait for it! Yay!
My heart, pierced when he said Plaxico Burress and that old ass looking footage..damn that was like 2 days ago not that long ago 😅
I'm gonna let you finish, but HIS HAND WAS GOIN FORWARD!
Proverbs 15:26
The thoughts of the wicked are an abomination to the LORD: but the words of the pure are pleasant words.
recovered by a player of the fumbl- HIS HAND WAS GOIN FORWAERD
I thought you couldn’t fumble a ball forward and then make additional progress.
Tuck game still hurts as a raider fan. Cheated.
Whatever happened to the Tuck Rule?
Terrell Suggs looking like an idiot by celebrating while the play is still live. The “youngster had to come to his rescue 🤷🏽♂️
Plaxico was 100% still in the college rules mindset when he spiked that football
That last one was very clearly an incomplete pass, dumped to get rid of it. The Ravens had every right to be angry
Imagine being Julius Peppers and making a great play forcing a fumble only to have your teammates completely shit the bed and let the team you just forced a fumble on score the easiest TD of their life.
chicago stadiu,m looks good when they are winning all that blue
I really think they need to start using common sense on forward psst vrs fumble. If the ball moves forward its likely a forward pass. If it goes backwards it's likely a fumble.
Lesson learned: don't stop playing until they blow the whistle!
Should have started the video a couple seconds earlier. I had to go back to the beginning just to figure out who was on offense!
People saying they need to play the whistle have never been in a stadium during a game
When American Football turns into Rugby 😅
These NFL players need to go back to playing prep football!😂
John 3:17
For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
Play to the whistle
Credit to the Steelers for being the only team dumb enough to do that twice, here.
Ray Lewis looking the other way like there’s a murder going on.
Ain’t over til it’s over.
1:45 " Illegal substitution on the return team. Nine-hundred and fifty four players on the field, half of whom aren't even in uniform. Five yard penalty. Re-kick."
Both teams were illegally substituting players...
@@aralornwolf3140 Indeed! And I don't know why but it cheeses me off that the whole thing didn't get called back.
Brady would have had every single one of these called a dead ball
That was literally the only thing Boykins did as a Packer but I will always remember him
Suggs and Lewis on the same team takes me back. Football used to be great
Thank you! Love NFL :)
This is why I never bet on football. Games turn on freak plays no one could predict
Football is easier to bet on than any other team sport. Soccer or Hockey, a hot goalie or a freak goal changes the outcome. Basketball, a team could get hot from 3 or be ice cold and that's the game.
Shit tube now requires me to sign in or agree to be tracked through history or I can't view any videos. 😕
The first play was the beginning of the end for Lovey Smith
I love the Packers scoring, always, over the Bears
2:23 The play should have been blown dead after the receiver’s right knee went down.
well, wheres the blue bean bag to indicate a loose ball that no ref seemed to throw as they should so that people on the field knew it was live??
Bears looked bad in that clip 🤦♂️ but still my team
#BearDown
Tuck rule effed everything up 😑😩🙄
I find in unbelievable that the refs called a play in Detroit's favor.
1:43 105 yard defensive touchdown!
Often wonder how some people are considered professional.
The bears have been downhill as a franchise ever since that play I think
plaxico burress really shot himself in the foot on that play
Can someone explain to a non american what makes a ball live or not after it has been dropped?
First one is pass. Incomplete. Terrible call.
Hiw does the quality of each clip just get worse than the last?
I thought you can't advance a fumble?