The Teenage Engineering OP-XY Is Insane, But...
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I feel like this company is rather successfully taking the piss.
Any chance you would be willing to spell out what you really mean right here? Everytime I look up that expression the explanations never quite seem to fit how it seems to be being used. Do you just have to be British, or can an American hope to understand?
@@jacobmarley6781 Taking the piss = mocking / taking advantage of
@@jacobmarley6781As a Brit, we generally use it to express when someone, or a business, is asking for way more than is expected. But pretends it’s standard.
Eg, I buy burger & chips at a van, the guy says “£15 please”
I reply “Ya taking the piss mate!?”
Can be used at work
Boss: “Can you work tonight? It’s important”
Me: “You taking the piss Bob? I’m knackered!… Piss taker!!”
I mean, people do actually want hardware like this… its not like they make crap
@@jacobmarley6781 Well, taking the piss, not being serious, having a lend, mocking. I put successfully as they are selling these things and people want them.
Not my thing, but whadoIknow?
I speak German. These "German" headlines are riddled with mistakes. The umlaut dots in the word "aüf" make 0 sense. "Das" sequencer is BS, it should be "Der" sequencer. These guys are such insufferable posers.
Haha I just made the same remarks that you did !
Teenage Engineering are really unsufferable hipsters.
@Frikoppie-q2v
« Frank » is a Germanic name, it’s literally the name of the Germanic tribe that gave its name to France after the downfall of the Roman Empire. 🙂
@
I don’t know what the Frankists are.
All that I know is that the Franks, a Germanic tribe, have given their name to « France » (in today’s German language, France is called « Frankreich », which literally means « Kingdom of the Franks »).
Its humor. Get it Germaniac?
@ I bet the fact that you wrote “its” instead of “it’s” is a hilarious joke as well. God, I haven’t laughed like this in ages.
It is like Audi... You want color? Pay. You want less color? Pay more
Buy the Table 1000$ 😂🎉Hipster Machine 🎛️
Yeah i dont think the colour is the selling point here 😂
@@zwicker5585right? 😂
It's the Cybertruck of sequencers
Naw. Even tesla losers dont go that hard for the cybertruck. Hardware people love TE
You can take an iPad and koala sampler with you.
or just iPad.
Wow, really? You can do that?
Yes. You can be as lame as you want. Nobody is arguing that.
Mum? Is that you? Are you suggesting we have OP-XY at home?
An iPad will last you a few years at best. The battery will start to fail, the apps you use will stop working if the developer doesn't keep them up to date. An iPad is a touch screen, not tactile at all. You can't develop the muscle memory you can with a physical device. And yes, the XY has a battery, but TE will want to help you replace it. Apple will just tell you the device is near the end of its life and needs replacing.
The promotion is a bunch of jokes about the band D.A.F. "Liebe auf den ersten blick" is one of their hits and the pic of the two guys, they are dressed like DAF from the video.
@@julieblair7472 I had completely forgotten about DAF... kinda got lost behind vague memories of DOA and No Means No... but yea, it's them. I was hoping the ads were hinting at Kraftwerk, but they're apparently too colourful for the crew at TE... Looks like I'll be taking better care of my tried and twisted OP-Z for the foreseeable future...
I came here to say this lol. Great video.
OP = overpriced. It was there all along :D
When I see those shades of gray, I feel like I am in there computer game menu that tells me to adjust the brightness
No. I do not ever have fantasies about anything Teenage Engineering come up with. No. Noooooo! No!
i like how we're hitting ~half of the feature set of 90s grooveboxes for twice the price
True, a younger musician once asked why I didn't get rid of the MC505. I gave a quick demonstration and only showed her the possibilities of the arpeggiator and the D-Beam. That was the only time that I heard a young person say:'They don't build stuff like that anymore.'
I don't glorify it. Sound was mediocre at best, but that sequencer...
Not really. When were they ever battery powered and portable? Only the Yamaha QY series, if you think those are as easy to use and powerful then go fill your boots.
The Korg Triton Classic from the late ‘90s has a vastly superior sequencer.
I can't take Teenage Engineering seriously when the competition offers dramatically more functionality with an easier, faster workflow, for half or a third of the price. Like the Akai Force/MPC for example.
Yup when I was looking for hardware sequencers for a potential live set, I realized my old mc-303 has more channels and flexibility than the modern ones for 2-3x the price, and it's not even ostensibly meant to be a sequencer.
That promo video is an AI reimagination of D.A.F.’s “Liebe auf den ersten Blick”
It definitely looks like an extremely capable device. And the price makes sense to me for all of that, given the generally premium prices for TE gear. The portability is also highly attractive, something missed by a lot of people who say "just buy x, y or z".
I do note that if Ableton were to do a firmware upgrade to the Move that gave it 8 tracks instead of 4, it could be an awfully good alternative to the OP-XY. And it's a lot cheaper.
"Extremely capable"? Did you mean extremely limited? Watch some tutorials about this device before writting anything...
Huh?
It's only $299???
Oh I missed that 2 at the beginning
Yep. Worth not more than $299.
@@SmallWorldBigThings $299 only covers the components and materials probably lol. So obviously it could never be that low. I was realistically thinking this would be 50% of the price of the OP-1F. Would be more fitting.
@@Softlol A little bit of plastic, a few switches, 2-cores old processor and 512MB RAM costs $299? In what world you are living?
@ I have designed and sold products in my country and overseas. So I do know about products production.
A signle high quality potentiometer can be around $20-$30. OP-XY has 4 of these so thats $80-$120 just for those 4 parts and you think the rest is gonna cost around $200? Development cost of the software should probably be free as well?
@@Softlol I can ensure you this doesn't have potentiometers for 20-30$. Including screen (which probably is the most costly part of the devise) everything all together not more than 150$.
wait until hardware-heads find out a laptop is hardware
Hahaha !!
@JBWozEre96 those two are just running software.....
Yes, it’s true, a computer can do pretty much everything the OP-XY can do and more, at least in terms of making sounds and music and putting it in a certain serial timeline.
But the process of getting there? It’s not at all the same. And for creativity, not just engineering… that matters a lot.
It’s like saying “You want a Moog? Just get the plugin.”
Yes, the objective stuff is (mostly) the same. But the experience is COMPLETELY different.
That’s what a T.E. customer is paying for. An experience. Whether that experience is worth the asking price is totally up to the individual.
"liebe aüf den ersten blick" is misspelled, such as "das sequenzer" lol
As a German, I can forgive the lack of proper capitalisation for design purposes, but not the random ü.
You don't get customers by mocking their language.
@ropeburn6684 same
@@ropeburn6684 Heavy metal umlaut. ;)
"Schritt-Sequenzen" is also kinda forced (and sounds like bureaucracy German "Amtsdeutsch") when German uses a lot of English loan words.
@@magicmulder true haha
You could buy a 88-key Master Keyboard, a Sampler, an Oxi one Hardware-Sequencer and still have Money left for Synthesizers.
And all of it is super handy to bring on your subway ride.
Well, bringing your 2.3K stuff to your subway ride is almost like bringing your rolex. Really secure
@@larryfraispertuis2371 like an Iphone or Macbook?
@@strangnetlet's be honest, nobody makes beats on the subway. They use that idea as a marketing strategy, but at the end of the day you are gonna be making music with this on your bedroom
@@1314Rubenor bringing it to your friends house, or on vacation, to a hotel room etc. you wont be making beats on the bus probably but its def far more portable than any laptop setup for someone on the go. Heck some people might just like to sit in the living room without having to disconnect their setup in their studio space
This is Sprockets and it’s time to dance
Touch my monkey.
people keep forgetting that teenage engineering is a lifestyle brand
"Lifestyle brand" is the politically correct way to call a "cashgrab".
I was waiting for Mike Myers’s Dieter to come out and dance with them in that commercial 😅
TE's ad lacks at least one shaved ferret. Not one banana either, that's disappointing. Eh, maybe that's why the price is so low? I give it 3 out 4 Guttenberg's.
Those Germans were hella German
we distance ourselves from them and they have nothing in common with normal germans.
As a German I strongly disagree.
They arent Germans lol
@@guido69x They look like Dieter from Sprocket (minus the monkey). That's why I thought they were Germans
@@gravity00x My bad. It was the cannibal look on the guys face that made me think they were German
I need this to have MULTI OUT over USB for this to make even the slightest bit of sense.
"why does it got to be black?" because they wanted it to be perfect. /icepirates
just buy a used roland FA for 400 Bugs. It might look not so fancy but you get overall 20 times the features. And 3000 Sounds from every genre ever. just saying...
Or MC-101... ;)
How are you supposed to put that in your backpack lol. The main selling point for these things are that they are tiny and can do a lot of stuff.
The read of “Bluetooth LE MIDI” got me good
Looks like an interesting device and, if money was no object, I'd get one just because it looks fun. I like the ads too
299$ ? I think this also would be too much for what it offers.
Teenage Engineering are a beautiful parody of themselves.
Liebe auf den ersten Blick. No "ü".
Like Weaver said... Nothing new
Das sequenzer
@@Fabo4dictator Der Sequenzer
@@Fabo4dictator der gerät
As a native German I cringed hard at their misuse of my language... and the price is insane
ok
@@ExcalibrariensesOk
In a world where companies try to make their gear offerings accessible for a modest cost, there are those companies who put themselves above all that and cater to the few with big bucks willing to pay for repackaged updated technology with a somewhat cool design. I love my pocket operators but I have no interest in this.
This. It’s interesting that TE gets the hate for their higher priced gear, but typically the critique doesn’t give credit to their Pocket Operators - which seem like a pretty great value, and they could probably charge a lot more for.
I'm pretty sure one of the reasons the price point of this was set that high was for preventing Bad Gear featuring it this month.
Have to wait for the floor model from Klangfarbe!
He's getting the gear from an austrian store, I think...
You know, a lot of ins, a lot of outs. A lot of what-have-yous...
Dream Machine. Unattainable, like the rest of dreams nowadays. "The elite laughs at your struggles" lol.
Nothing to dream about, really.
Sadomasochistic dreams... but no one has a right to take it away from you ;)
The sexy part is why all music nerds will buy it. They do know how to market their products. :D
I would say the "sexy" part is what keeps real musicians away.
@@pw6002 "real musicians"
@@Softlol
Yup.
In opposition to hipsters.
I haven't heard a demo of this thing that I like. That tells me all I need to know now about it's versatility and usability for me, personally.
I love how synth shills are making videos about how mind blowing it is. No one believes you and it's insulting. Hope it doesn't sell well.
I feel like once a synth gets over $1200 it becomes serious diminishing returns.
@5:10 that moment you make some fire beat and just start dancing
where my poor Yamaha folks at? We basically brothers at this point xD
You can drop that on a PC w machine learning and have it build you one of these from scratch
16 years of learning German has finally paid off
I wouldn't buy the Teenage Engineering OP-XY I for a tenth of the asking price, in fact, I would not have any Teenage Engineering product, big bucks for toys, spend the money on better gear
always funny reading butthurt teenage engineering haters. Its amazing that stuff like this triggers you so much.
The Leica of musical instruments. No shade, it’s just a niche market. Their marketing is on point. Funny as fuck.
They are mocking old school EBM band D.A.F. 😁😁😁
Weaver Beats isn't really an educated fella.
@@str8andalert 🍻🍻
@@str8andalertwho tf knows who daf is? Obscure hipster shit
@@MyNameJeff.. don't excuse your ignorance. they are a reference of underground 80s!
@@elitsvaika2830 oh you’re so cool. I bet you wouldn’t like them if they were mainstream.
Dude you're the best!! I'm dying here!!!
For that money you can buy a PC with Nvidia 4090
The Dream Machine is An ASR 10, FL Studio or Any AKAI MPC. Them folks is Triiiiiiiiiiiiipin"
5:49 wtf did I just watched? 😂😂😂😂
You can get a MacBook pro with Ableton and logic pro 😂😂
Which do not fit in your pocket.
@ yeah but you can make much wider variety of music... And you can actually see every parameter in detail
@@kond1eyou can do the same with this. Its literally designed to make music. Its not for everyone but some people find this creative process much better than a mouse and screen
@ fair point
@@6581punkwhat pants are you wearing that an OP-XY fits in your pocket?
Wow, the OP-XY wall. And I thought modular was expensive.
Funny enough, I thought the promo video was expertly done. But I also love D.A.F.
Dirtywave m8 says hi
Seriously. In every way shape and form superior and the price is amazing
To each their own. I find zero pleasure programming music.
I got an Op1 to see what it was all about but really didn’t like the tape recorder. I like to try this, if I find it used, on sale or at an estate sale.
I think it’s cool and I want it. I might get the sweater too. Come at me. 💀
Just get an iPad or iPad mini, buy Drambo, koala sampler, and spend the rest in whichever good synths you want (Zeeon, Nambu and Nerd synth are my go to synths). This thing has no right to be this crazy expensive
It's a designer groove box! Do you lose your mind every time you see somebody wearing LV?
So why music channels are reviewing it? It should be reviewed by people interested in design.
@SmallWorldBigThings If you say so
@@SmallWorldBigThings Because it's a mix of great design and great instrument? Yes the price point do not reflect what it can do. But you can argue it reflects the design. Because the design can cost whatever they want.
@@Softlol Non of these for me... but I suppose much depends on a personal taste :)
Function list is insane. How does it sounds ? Better then Roland synths ?
The 2030 Agenda groovebox.
I see people apologise their way through the stages of buying TE stuff and then really enjoy what they've got. Apart from the choir.
is the whole vibe of this channel hacky grouchy takes?
If you want a fun, little, portable music device get a m8 tracker
Much better choice! MUCH better! 👍👍👍
5:20 I'm pretty sure TE at this point have YOU in mind when they think of this stuff...
I loved th promo video!
Equal part cool and hilarious.
I hope apple buys Teenage Engineering
Yes... prices could be more reasonable after that 😂😂😂
Somebody please petition behringer to clone it
What for? Get something better.
They haven't cloned a single TE thing yet so not likely.
@@Softlol Because devices from TE it is mostly software. Behringer do not "clone" software.
I never got the hype, just buy a laptop and a cheap midi controller and you'll be fine.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 “Just get a computer” YES!!!
It’s portable octatrack. The more I hear about it, that’s the only comparison I could think of…
You don't even imagine how far away it is from Octatrack. OP-XY it is a toy with nice animations on a screen...
🙃 you are wrong. It is a computer but a WEAK computer that can only run 1 software BUT has built-in controllers. 🕺.
But thats the case with all hardware
Built specifically for music instead of web browsing
It’s shit.
At this point, you might as well just buy an iPad Pro, get Cubasis with it’s additional Steinberg plugins, a few more extra plugins, a MIDI keyboard,and save a bunch of money while having more power and capability.
You can buy portability for less, a full sized synth for less, a laptop for less, a MPC, Maschine, or Elektron for less. Basically, there are so many better choices out there. Get it if you want it but it’s not revolutionary. It’s mostly a cash grab.
The OP shit is cool, but the pricing is absolutely horrible. You could get a used mpc one and mk2 for half that and have a much better setup going. They definitely have the "apple effect" where people will buy it regardless of how much of a ripoff it is 😂
Not saying its not expensive for what it is, but to put things in prospective, you can find pianos that cost 10x what this does. I know people that have spent more on cymbals for their drum kit.
Those will last forever and aren’t made of plastic trash
@@xkidmidnightxThese are made of metal as well, and my OG OP-1 has been going strong for well over a decade now.
What a stupid comparison. Really dumb.
@@xkidmidnightxplastic lol. Maybe touch a teenage engineering device before you comment on it 😂
The piano won't be a tiny plastic box that costs 30$ to manufacture.
The real question now is one is asking: is it even better than the cirklon???
judging by the video, they're making it out to be some kind of "Zirklon B"... (don't google that... but if you do, plz note that I left an "r" in that) 🙈
The cirklon isn't a synth or drum sampler. It's just a sequencer. Not really comparable.
@@jocee2257 I mean as a sketch pad yeah you can't compare them but in overall usage it's most important feature is the sequencer. The OPZ had a lot to offer too but it was mostly revered for its sequencing abilities, even used to sequence lighting of sets. In studio use, people aren't gonna be reaching for this thing for its synth and sampler, they are going to be using it for its sequencing capabilities. So at this price point, is it better than a cirklon for sequencing?
@@gattart 🫣
Zoolander being out to good use in their advert. 😐
i hope to get one :) just wish it did 8 bars, like really 64 steps in 2024 come on
i have to say i disagree with the demo catering to the more average user. i roll my eyes whenever i hear the same old same old in other gear demos. that said, you will not find me anywhere near the op-xy.
For the price of this should rather buy an iPad. What am I saying, depending on the model you can buy up to 5 iPads for this money…
There’s probably equal demand and units needed to meet that demand, right? About the same number of people making electronic music - who want a uniquely tactile experience - as there are people wanting to use iPads. So they could keep manufacturing costs about the same, have about the same revenue earned, etc. totally checks out as a comparison.
I will wait for it to be on rutracker
They’re hyping the sequencing capabilities but they give you one multi-function output. I can choose to sequence cv or gate but not both at the same time. Which is weird because you traditionally need both. All the videos I’ve watched about this it’s been presented as a stand alone device. It’s interesting in TE’s literature they hype its ability to sequence external gear yet it’s a bit handicapped in that space. Is this sequencer more powerful than a Elektron sequencer?
Who’s their idea guy ……and where did they get this.
feelin' the Molly lmao
i watch Weaver Beats both for music news and comedy
''this guy has been practicing mewing'' 😂😂
He overmewed, looks silly
or practiced being stung by a bee
I think this is a strategy, making something so niche that only VIP music producers of fame can buy it, and so you can associate yourself as a brand with these VIP producers? or is this far fetched? ... sad tho
Yeah im selling my hardware and getting a better computer
Those guys are AI
I am sorry. I admire them but a nice iPad + controller with case is betterer I think.
Not everyone likes tapping a touchscreen though. I love the option of recording on an iPhone or iPad, but it’s also nice to have an all in one device like what teenage engineering is doing. It’s nice to tap some keys
I agree. It’s just too expensive for what it is I think.
iPad and Drambo
This is a JOKE. Just get a Deluge.. Synthstrom Deluge makes this thing look like a joke
Roland MC-101, Dirtwave M8, Polyend Tracker Mini, Synthstrom Deluge.... so many better options than this overpriced toy :/
@@SmallWorldBigThings 100% Agree, I combine the mc101 and Deluge often.
@@GanjaBabyy So we are on the same boat ;)
I really liked the possibilities of the OP-Z sequencer. The OP-XY looks promising, but at what cost, unfortunately! And honestly, didn’t you also feel, like me, that all the UA-cam videos of the OP-XY mostly showcase mediocre music? I haven’t heard anything yet that makes me want to dive in. This is also a comment that applies to the OP-Z, which, despite its punch-in capabilities, often results in mediocre music, particularly in terms of synthesis quality. Take Cuckoo, for example-his music doesn’t inspire me.
It's not even correct german: "auf" (which means "on" in this context) doesn't have an "ü".
And it's "der" Sequenzer, not "das" Sequenzer.
I would not even learn to use this thing when my laptop/Tablet out performs any Teenage Enginering product any day..
You could say that about drums, guitars, synths, orchestral instruments, mixers, rack gear, pedals.
But I get your point. Also why music sounds like 💩 today though
You must have big pockets if you can fit your laptop in one.
You can apply this argument to everything hardware. A computer outperforms everything basically. But the point of hardware is that it's physical and contained. You can't get the same feeling on the PC at all. I enjoy hardware way more than sitting on my PC. It feels more real and fun to me. But it's also just insanely more expensive (not even talking about TE).
Efficient German dancing
Synth Balenciaga
All the branding and ideas are a tribute to DAF (Deutsche Amerikanische Freundschaft). Lieb AUM ersten blickt is the name of a song that they ripped the videos idea from.
I have BEEF, that demo track is way too 4-4 to be IDM
@5:57 Mewing chad 😂
But seriously, I really consider this demo unique.
this machine deserves propr roasting. I'm disappointed
When did Teenage Engineering actually delivered a non-disapointing product ?
Ah yes, never ! 😁
@@pw6002 everyone agrees their products are amazing, just priced terribly. 90% of the reviews I have seen of the OG OP-1 or OP-Z where only positive. Only the price point being the big draw back.
But is it 50 shades of grey?
A much needed review