Woodworking guide from experienced carpenter. How to securely fasten beams
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- Woodworking guide from expereance carpenter. How to securely fasten beams. Woodworking ideas and projects. Woodworking ASMR. Woodworking tips and skills.
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Drywall screws! Nice!
😅
lol came here to say this😂
Nieodpowiednie wkręty
I immediately thought that too, but maybe it's just for the movie
Load bearing drywall screws /s
The guy that built my deck must’ve watch this video. It fell down when all the drywall screws broke.
The idiot who lived at my house before me hung a gate with them, those all broke off, gate was terrible anyways thats gone. And the gutters too, which will be a project soon enough. But then again everything he did was terrible
Exactly..that why you use special nails called Tico..
I was going to say: The better way is to use screws and nails. Nails by themselves will pull out. Screws by themselves will shear(break). Use both and neither will happen😊
@@Boggyboytadthey make nails specifically for those tie brackets lol, this video was made by someone who knows basically nothing
Camr jere to day that
Those are some funny looking 10 gauge galvanized nails.
What I really want to know is , where can I find that hammer
I came to leave that comment. Now what do I do? 😢
@@nathanarievlis3985 its a paslode air nailer
@@JohnPlissken If you're still here, get some sleep, you've done your job.
You took 7 hours to do a 2 min job!! Great work !!
I always take tips from people who use drywall screws for structural framing. Perfect.
Wrong screws.
@@adammalzahn7238duh
Shouldnt use screws at all....@@adammalzahn7238
Drywall screws do not have the required shear strength for this installation. Beware.
Это говорит на сколько опытный это турист. Турист и точка.
Yeah, we all get that drywall screws are not the proper application here but thank you for scientifically explaining it because some people still won’t get it but oh well
100% crappy insulation
Insulation? 😂 make sure them screws are warm! @@davidgalloway5598
They won't last a year
My first thought was "Those holes in the hanger are NOT just decoration!"
My second thought was "screws? NO!"
My third thought was "DRYWALL screws?! OH NO!"
Three strikes and you're OUT!
Thank you ( and others ), You have just saved me a potential disaster. I'll get proper help for the job I need doing.
@@jackieking1522and also those screw are too short. Those are fosfate screws that will rot with time. Just get zinc based screws or hard steel like simpsons or others.
They make galvanized screws for this specific application.
So you are wrong in the screw application part.
I’m the owner of the deck he built. Just wanted to let everyone know not to use drywall screws. It’s already fell apart.
You're probably lying but it doesn't matter. Whoever the owner is, they know now that this was a very expensive mistake. We need to start punishing these scammer contractors. Forget company names; we need business owner names, and when they commit fraud they go to prison, plus pay for all damages caused by horrible construction.
@@drengr2759 calm down dude. the last thing we need is more government.
Чёрные саморезы!? 😢Ты гений,чувак!😢Ты просто ,гений!😢😢😢
Вот тоже хотел написать; опытный плотник типо. Такого к дереву и подпускать нельзя.
Но ты меня опередил.
@@Kvammenfishing а в чем прикол то
Почему так ниготивно к саморезам
@@user-zb4qv7or6j черные саморезы ломаются под нагрузкой
@@user-zb4qv7or6jгниёт (ржавеет быстро) не держит нагрузку. Очень не надёжно!
@@user-zb4qv7or6j такими саморезами можно только гисокартон крутить. Как уже писали гниет и нагрузку не держит. Ломаает их как спички. И уж я вообще молчу не дай бог на наружних работах их применять. Такого мастрера к стенке и растрелять.
I think this guy deliberately does things unsafe like this just to get comments.
Welcome to UA-cam
This is the real comment
Of course. He's the original "tradesman troll".
Mission accomplished
He's also farmer now.
For Joyce hanger, you can use construction schools.Or you can use a Palm nailer with Galvani.Zed screws makes a job a lot easier and faster.And it would help if you had a real drill
Drywall screws aside, this actually seems useful
if you want to take 3x as long to do a job. it completely unnecessary.
If you use nails on the hanger instead of those dumb screws, it seems like a decent tip. It keeps the joist in position.
@@KingBeevr "if you want to take 3x as long to do a job. it completely unnecessary."
For people wondering why all the trades workers here are having a conniption about the drywall screws, it's that they're made of hard, brittle steel that will snap as the joists move over time with changes in temperature and humidity. I don't want to get too into weeds with the technicalities here, but let's just say it's not ideal when the fastners that hold your house together fail.
Plus...they ARE NOT galvanized...perfectly said
not to mention....rust!
This post was just asking for wrath.
If you screw a piece of plywood down to a piece of 2 by or another piece of plywood and run the screw all the way down, a regular screw starts to countersink into the face of the wood, if you do the same thing with a drywall screw it just shears the head of the screw off once it goes tight. They are not good for anything but drywall
@@thefinalkayakboss Absolutely! That's why they call them drywall screws.
Don’t ever use drywall screws for joist hangers
What else should be used?
@@wick-jw5kq
Joist hanger nails or structural joist hanger screws.
We used to call them teko? Nails. Short and stout head. Not sure were the name from @wick-jw5kq
Don't ever use drywall screws outside lol
Either tico nails or Simpson sd screws
That's exactly what I was saying.You don't use drywall screws.Use construction screws and at that rate.Put in that little curve for whatever the hell you put on top of the wood told it in place.You'll be there till the cows.Come home till next year to finish a small project.I couldn't imagine working on a project where it's.You gotta work by the foot
Cant trust an "expereance" carpenter that uses gloves with a drill, and drywall screws for something that needs a better screw and nails
(Sharp eye) Fabric gloves?! Noooo!
And a bloody pink drill
They make us wear ANSI gloves now in commercial per OSHA. But this person is an imposter or just a homeowner dyi thinking this will save them money. What it will do is have your delivery person suing your homeowners insurance
Looks like drywall screws
Yes no good
They are, and drywall screws have very little shear strength.
Just to set the bracket, maybe. But go back and install more of the right screws later.
@@damonrice8469 I agree you could do that, but why not use the correct screws right away?
In a world where building codes and galvanized nails weren’t yet invented. there was ONE man! His expereance was profound. 5 years later all decks collapsed and he did it all again! EXPEREANCE!!!!!!!!!
😊😊
I never use galvanized, even inside only stainless steel SPAX screws
Most would have put the line over 3/4 of an inch and lined the edge of the joist with that ensuring it is not tilted over. of course you have to calculate that from the start and an X on the side you want the joist to be on help so everyone knows where the next one goes. No guessing where the centre of the joist is that way.
Joe - umm, *experience
@@Ritcheyyysounds like you’re wasting money on overpriced consumables. There’s nothing wrong with galvanized, also if you’re only using screws and no nails, no way you can be that productive. Additionally, screws lack sheer strength. In certain applications it’s not stronger than a nail…
Drywall screws will definitely last forever 😅😅😅
It's also why actual experienced professionals get any construction job done in way faster than an amateur.
Definitely not a tradesman
Tail light warranty on that shiiii
Nope, a carpenter would have just shot it there in 5 seconds
@@manuelk3386I'm glad he did it slowly so I could see how it's done. 5 seconds mark and I'm lost 😂 More than likely he can do it faster but when you're teaching you have to go slower.
Is this a joke? Place the metal.on your board. Hold it by the bottom and eyeball it to flush. One of the point of these brackets is to reduce the amount of holes put in to the board.
@pattydali the whole thing is dumb. Hangers take nails, not drywall screws
Love these shorts!
Good work 😮
I was proud until I saw the drywall screws being inserted lol
Really? Do you actually believe that wasn't a complete waste of time? If you can't handle throwing a board and hanger without the help of screwing a board on top of it, then you don't deserve to get paid.
В России это шурупы по дереву
@@Nameentered proud? Nah but it still works till the Sheetrock screws came in 😂
@@podpis_nerazborchivaв России оцынковка шурупы по дереву!
Do you feel superior now? @@Nameentered
Lmao!!! I love when I check the comments and there's no need to add my thoughts. Lmao!!
And yet you did anyway... LOL
drywall screws I think not a good idea they aren't very strong and will rust
Deck screws on hangars. Nice.
All good except tour using drywall screws 😆
Drywall screws are the BEST structural thing ever invented😂😂😂
Not for exterior, they rust
@@billseverns5332sarcasm isn’t your strong point is it
Drywall is not structural, nor are the fasteners.
@@cwoliver3488imagine taking the internet this seriously
@@cwoliver3488you and bill must be from the same bloodline
И все это крутится черным саморезом! Я бы в шею гнал таких работников
Вы знаете случаи разрушения строения по причине чёрных саморезов? Я- нет. Ни одного.
@@user-xx1jm6gy7mдундук ты вася
@@user-xx1jm6gy7mа много ли зданий вы знаете?
@@user-xx1jm6gy7mне поверишь у меня опалубку вырвало внутрений контур(комнаты) с таких 35 шурупиков
Много случаев было когда он лопается, вчера только под нагрузкой лопнул
Ya know what also works? Just looking at it with your eyes when screwing it in. Or using a small cut off gauge block. Or just not caring if it’s not literally perfect.
I love the little green check mark ✅ at the end like it was done right.
Is this why balconies fall when people get on them
Yep
Why would that be exactly?
@@Edward_Scissor_Feetdry wall screws.
@@Edward_Scissor_FeetBecause they're not strong enough in diameter
YES!!!!!
I was just watching the video and smiling knowing exactly what the comments were going to say 😆😆
😮😮к😊😊
drywall screws? LOL
Same.
Went and made popcorn before opening the comments.
@marktasker9581 You knew 'cos you got "EXPEREANCE!"
The shade from their cowboy hats must be nice in the summer!
Was going to say the same thing. Strong tie #10 1 1/2” required
“Woodworking guide from expereance carpenter” says it all
Right😂
EXACTLY! the statement tracks!
not every carpenter is from an english speaking country, boy
Those gloves said it all 😂
@@herculesbrofister265 Woodworking and carpentry are completely different things
Чёрные саморезы повышают количество комментариев и популярность видео. 😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮
😂😂Тоже заметил, особенно которые в шары долбятся и думают что это для гипсокартона😂
@@user-hp7fr5xt9i смешно, что вы не знаете назначения и качества этих саморезов. Они для ГКЛ/дерево
😮😢ДД@@user-hp7fr5xt9i
😂😂👏
это каким надо быть слабоумный имбецилом чтобы не понять что это просто демонстрация
Wow, they finally started using hangers, but drywall screws, lol.
Step 1 - don't use drywall screws
Step 2 - don't post a video on UA-cam showing how NOT to do structural construction work.
Step 3: Take your tools and dump them in the river.
Tico nails or simpson galvanized hanger screws only
yup!!!
Nails, never screws. Screws are brittle. And those will rust.
You can tell he’s an expert by his knitted work gloves.
and his high quality screw gun!
Awesome, but what's with drywall screws?
Все опытные плотники используют саморезы для гипсокартона в силовых элементах!))) а вы разве не знали? 😅
😂😂😂
Ну это не гипсокартонные, у тех шляпка под конус и меньше в диаметре, также резьба шире. Но да, они из этого же материала сделаны, тоже черные. Черными саморезами лучше не крутить балки и лаги, они лопнуть могут под нагрузкой.
@@idstrctmsf вы не правы, они не могут лопнуть, они обязательно лопнут.
Ay..!! Cómo me gustan estos videos..😊
The shear strength on those drywall screws must be top notch!
He got some of those Jedi Drywall screws for this job.
I'm sure inspectors love these videos
I am an inspector, and decks is where I saw the majority of structural violations.
@@ParchmentKH77ftw oh jeez. You probably have stories for days 🤣.
I mean these videos are the construction or "wood working" equivalent of life hacks or 5 minute crafts. No one should take them seriously
Indeed we do 😂😂
You’re gonna be on that job all day long with this method
Legit. On top of being completely unnecessary, unless you have no idea how to get timber edges flush.
Good tip for amateurs
Teko nails are called out for hangers. This will not hold up. Screws snap. Nails bend.
Never wear knit gloves while using drills or powered hand tools. 😮
В таком узле, лучше использовать гвозди подходящего размера и минимум по 3 шт. на каждую сторону!.
И саморезы другие😊
Шип надо делать 😂😂😂
Белые или жëлтые)
Ни в коем случае черные
Сначало он сделал видео с желтыми саморезами😂,но было мало просмотров😅.
Автор залил видео задом наперед. Это он на самом деле их извлекает)
😂😂
😂😂😂
drywall screws aside.. if you want to use up even more of your time and get it even more anally aligned, drill a viewport hole in the alignment plank and mark the center of the end of your joist.. screw the plank on so you can see the mark, line them up perfectly.
Of course.. a much faster way to get the result you are looking for is to just create create a template to hang over the rim joist. Then cut a very small length of joist from some scrap to set in the hangar with a center mark on it.... hang on the template to space downward, place hanger, slide in the small marker piece... achieve the same result in 10 seconds.
Especially with PT joists that vary in size.
Screws will snap. Bettee 3.5mm x 30mm twist nail
At least blue galv.
The make specific nails for this. No need of twist nails. Simply hanger nails. Been out for decades
@jameylebel I've seen a few products but the 30mm sheridised twist nail is standard since 1980s . Other products tested y manufacturers will suffice. The screws on video are drywall/ sheet rock screws and are wholly useless for this task
@@jameylebelas you mentioned there are nails that are specific for this use and there are screws that are specific to this use as well
You can use screws. Just not drywall screws. They have screws that are designed for sheer strength
少なくとも日本人の大工には、
自分が楽をする為に
｢大事な木に、それも見える位置に余計な穴を開ける｣という｢愚かな行為｣は
概念すらないし、絶対に許されない✋
しかも開けた穴をそのままにしておくなんてプロとして有り得ない行為😮💨
Drywall screws are a nice touch!
Screws are great for grip but shit for sheer.
How to turn an hour job into a 3-hour job all while using drywall screws😊
In this episode of "How to get kicked off a job site" we get a bonus lesson in failing your inspection and snapping ankles with a poorly built deck. Tune in next time when we show you how to check for gas leaks at the main with nothing more than a cigarette lighter!
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!!!
Can't wait for that episode.... please do the follow up "How to make stupid videos with no fingers" or "I was the best looking guy in the Burn Ward"
- OR - when the contractor supplies the wrong fastenings.
This man is a genious and must be protected at all costs!
TECO nails are a lot more fun than that when you use a palm driver.
You can fill up all the holes too!😅
I've seen inspections fail for not using nails in your hangers. Those screws will snap during cold weather.
Doesn't need to be cold
Simpson strong tie screws. Pass any inspection. Shear strength is key and there galvanized.
These drywall screws have absolutely no shear strength whatsoever.
Videos are made like this just for the comments lol
На черные саморезы самый то!
Они ржавеют, лопаются. но мы не себе стоим..
You CANNOT use screws on joist hangers! Joist hanger nails ONLY.
Are those outdoor drywall screws "deck-rated" ?🤣
Next time dont use drywall screws for a floor joist 🙄
Next time learn when you're being trolled.
Только кронштейн не оставляй висеть только на черных саморезах.
Massive "I know a guy who can do it cheaper" energy.
Always use square twist nails, never screws of any type!
Drywall Screws!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Make sure when you call for inspection, you point that out to the inspector. He will give you bonus points! 👍💯
So where are the hanger screws??? FAIL!!!
You mean his hangnails? I think they’re holding the drill.
Чёрные саморезы 😂😂😂
I know, right😂
Drywall screws though 🤔🤭🤦🏼♂️🤣🤣 you guys crack me up
There are hex cap screws specifically designed and made by the joist hangar company for outdoor durability.
"Опытный" гвоздями 100-120 бьет,но никак не на эти говносаморезы и уголки😂 это шляпа
Не бьются опоры бруса гвоздями.
@@user-jb9hn3xi2cон пишет про монтаж без опор бруса.
@@konstantins5333 тогда это не монтаж, а хня... Плавали, знаем.
@@user-jb9hn3xi2c но и чёрные саморезы не используют. они калёные, шляаки у них отлетают на раз два.
Уголок не шляпа ,а саморезы просто не выдержат переменные нагрузки ,но тоже имеет место быть
Using drywall screws for a deck is not recommended. They are not designed to withstand outdoor conditions or support the weight and stress that a deck experiences. It's best to use screws specifically made for decking, which are corrosion-resistant and built to handle outdoor environments.
It's more about the shear strength, but for sure drywall screws will rust.
@@SaucyOperator Both screws and twist nails have their advantages and disadvantages for deck construction. Screws tend to provide a stronger hold and are less likely to work loose over time, making them a popular choice for decks. Twist nails, on the other hand, can be quicker to install and are often less expensive, but they may not offer the same level of stability as screws. Ultimately, the best choice depends on factors such as budget, personal preference, and the specific requirements of your deck project.
@@BabashiSensei We're talking about the hangers man. Not assembly of the deck boards, pickets, or railings. Specifically joist hangers. You can nail them or use screws designed for hangers, but they better have the shear strength recommended. Otherwise you will have issues. I know how to build a deck, I've been a carpenter for over 30 years.
@@SaucyOperator are lag bolts or nails better for this? And what size
@@BabashiSensei Use the hanger screws Simpson recommends for whatever hanger you are using.
Nice solution, but wrong screws. Galvanized Nails = stronger and rust resistance. Drywall screws heads will break off by over torquing.
Oh yeah make sure those drywall interior screws are nice and lined up
Damn Sheetrock screws in joist hangers🧐
Всё отлично, только на черные саморезы нельзя крепить!
Они хрупкие!
Удачи!
Шляпки чёрных саморезов отлетают, когда на них идёт нагрузка.
Не зря их не любят, ими можно шкатулку собрать, шпингалет прикрутить, затянуть ГКЛ.
Driving drywall screws into oak with a drill. Damn you’re good
But drywall screws are cheaper!!!
I've been a carpenter for 159 years. A big no no. not only the drywall screws 😂 but.... that ledger is going to rot.
Для надёжности ещё заменить чёрные саморезы на жёлтые и будет порядок 😅
Будет чуть дольше.
@@PeocTaT1Гвозди и только гвозди. Саморезы разве только для того, чтобы руками не держать пока гвозди забиваешь. А лучше вообще их в силовых конструкциях не применять
Да согласен, конечно есть формула при которой количество черных саморезов нивелирует поперечную нагрузку но все таки гвозди или желтые саморезы лучше
That is pretty clever!!!
👋🤝❤️
every time i see a scene like that in youtube shorts, i have anxiety that it is another diaz construction educational video
You better put that red X on the screen (take down that green check mark).
Those drywall screws have (0) shear strength, and that 2x4 joist will drop in prob 4 or 5 years (as your butted up to the house, so all the water will fall right into that area).
They have joist nails for that - cheap and will last the age of the deck
4 to 5 years is pretty optimistic I reckon. Maybe with minimal use and good luck.
Поздно увидел) тоже самое делал недавно , только пальцами на ощупь ровнял) хорошая идея!
Someone must have commented by now… “nice start - then, just screwed it all up!”
На чёрный саморез?
Омериконцы же 😂
Черный саморез?????? На улице????
Гоните в шею этого мастера"!!!
А какой лучше шуруп?
Гвоздём можно?
That’s some pretty wood.
"experienced carpenter"?!?
От НЕОПЫТНОГО ПЛОТНИКА хочется добавить,никогда не используйте саморезы по гипроку в ответственных местах для этого есть конструкционные саморезы они не хрупкие!
Bros using drywall screws and calls himself an experienced carpenter
This guy's channel should be called "Confidently Incorrect Wood Edition"
I just came to peek why this seemingly boring clip has lots of comments...lol
Пожалуйста, только не шурупы для гипса... Для такого рода работ замечательно подойдут гвозди, кровельные саморезы, кровельные гвозди.
Хоть один написал, что применять вместо черных саморезов! Респект тебе!!!!
Глухари нужно применять и обычные гвозди.
Decking screws are best.
Для таких видов работ применяются специальные саморезы и гвозди для перфорированного крепежа, с усиленной головкой. Никакие кровельные гвозди и саморезы не подойдут
Galvanized nails