Here's How Bad Cheap Chinese Headers Fit On A Fine German Automobile. E55 AMG Long Tube Install.
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- Опубліковано 9 лис 2018
- Cheap Chinese Headers don't cost much but how bad do they fit? In this video, I install the cheapest long tube headers I could find on my 2003 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG and show you the good, the bad and the ugly truth with these types of exhaust systems. You may be surprised with the end results so stay tuned for the startup and test drive at the end. Oh, I also install Maybach engine mounts and a CLK Black Series Trans Mount!!
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What should I do next to the E55?
LegitStreetCars “straight pipe it”
Uh, three times the cost means three times more expensive. You wanted to say they are one-third the cost.
@@mathewfullerton8577 Good catch Matt. I caught it during editing and clarified in text on the screen.
@@LegitStreetCars Yeah, I'm a bit anal about stuff like that. Maybe I should hire myself out as an editor. Great video, though!
Please don’t do a Burble Tune!!!
I’m very disappointed with the whole thing, there was a major fail in the video.
You didnt start it up with open headers, that’s a right of passage to header installation.
Sorry dude, my neighbors can only take so much, lol
Lol i too was hoping that he would start it up
Seriously how could you resist starting that beautiful engine with open headers
LegitStreetCars
Haha that’s ok, try it next time when you do an install and aren’t at home.
Check the video of my cl55 amg with the open headers
You're gonna love the performance difference from the long tubes. They were the best mod I've done to my E55
How the hell are you going to install long tube headers and not do an open header startup at least? I feel like that was a missed opportunity. Do better LoL.
Yeah, I like my own comments. I've had too much to drink. What cha gonna do?
Alex, I'm following your blueprint for the E55 AMG. Thanks for all the great content !!!
So glad I found your channel. Just bought an '06 CLS55 and now I have an itch to mod it. Thank you for being the M113K goldmine of UA-cam.
I've been looking to do the same to my E55 so glad you made a video. I'm more glad to see that these don't hang really low and they are actually tight against the car.
Any exhaust leaks use the high temp permatex. I have used it on race cars for header gasket turbo flanges etc. It works great an won't blow out on 3 stage 1200 hp total shot nitrous engine.
Have Kleemann on mine. They looked gorgeous and the welds were superb when new, I didn't do the install myself but my mechanic didn't appear to have much trouble installing them. It's been 8 years now and no problems with them so far, you really get what you pay for.
Thank you for doing these videos. I have a 2006 sl500 and I enjoy watching you work on your Mercedes.
Chinese headers fit just fine on 1,000’s of LS cars 🤷🏽♂️ Speed Engineering, Texas Speed, Pace Setter, and OBX. My $1,4000 Stainless Workz headers broke welds.
I would TIG in any spots that you think need it and roll. They all make the same power.
Way to start a Legit Saturday!
Really good to see you showing those East Coast Euro poly engine mounts, theyre AWESOME in every sense of the word. There is VERY MINIMAL vibration transferred, the car handles a shade better because the engine stays still, and theyre rebuildable. Best option around.
I bought the exact same headers. I had no problem at all and I LOVE them!
Just began to develop a small exhaust leak. May have to consider your setup.
Thanks for posting.
"Got the headers in. Completed exhausted." I see what you did there.
did you have to cut that pipe?
Installed many China headers np no issues long lasting...
The flex sections are actually a left and right. Even though they look identical, they are not so you flip them and it would have fit better. I also used bolts and removed the threaded studs.
I tried them both ways. The other way was impossible to line up so im assuming I have it right this way
8:39 Completely exhausted.... ;)
Another fascinating video, keep it up bro!
Damn Alex, you’re a freakin BEAST! Nice work!
Driver side header work out is harder than any Gym work Out . Alex using
Braun and Brains together. Oh that shoulder pain . Beautiful job Alex . Thank you
For the excellent video.
Rob Canadianguy you dont go to the gym much, do you?
Another great vid!👍
Finally, i‘m excited 😍❤️
@legitstreetcars or anyone else - How can you reduce the risk of breaking the studs off in the engine or having the studs come out as happened in this video? Would it be a good idea to get some heat in the engine earlier in the day (drive it earlier) and still work on the car when it is somewhat warm (not too warm obviously as you don't want to burn yourself). What about using a blow torch to heat up the nuts?
Alex, after watching your videos for some time, I think the E55 will be my next car. I bought a 2001 GS430 and love it, but now I want more power LoL. I see a lot of E55s for around $16k and 80k miles. You can't beat that dollar performance
Dat Powerslide, Monsterr 😍😍😍
Haha damm. So glad you did a video on these. Was honestly so curious what the quality would be and longevity!
On the Engine Masters show on Motor Trend Freiburger bashed a header with a hammer on a dyno motor and
it had no effect on horsepower numbers. So anyone out there who needs to "massage" a header it's ok
to dent it a little.
Definitely as long as it's not pinched lol
Yeah, I saw that episode, too.
Just bend the heat shields: no dents on headers looks much better to :)
Your E55 is actually perfect 😍
Lol nice pun 8:39 ..Sounds good man, can't wait to hear it straight piped!
Pun alert @ 08:38 😅
Exhausted?
Nice I'm thinking of getting a e55
Great job Alex! But I have a question for you. What do you recommend for the C55? I recently had the starter replaced and found hole in exhaust, I want long tube headers like you are using on your E55 but not sure what to go for.
Working on this right now. Following along with you. Just got started and 5 studs came out. Break time now.
Gonna figure out how to take out steering shaft next.
Gracias.
Great Stuff! Your vids are Awesome.
so on my w210, E430, i have a muffler delete, secondary car delete, and resonator delete, let me tell you, it sounds sooooooooooooo good.
Love watching your videos from 🇦🇺
Do you happen to know if it's worth fitting long tube headers to the W210 E55? if so do the w211 ones look like they may fit, having trouble finding cheapo ones for my older benz.
Such a great car I really can't wait to get mine 😁
Ewww snow :-/
Great video like always. Wish I could install headers legally here too.
I'd love to see some WS6 Video again, I could just watch that car all day lol
Thanks for all your work posting these videos.
Any thoughts on a 2009 C63 overall? I have read mixed reviews.
Thanks again
Great Video Alex! I'm going to install mine this week. Do you have the p/n for the Maybach mounts?
I have the Kleemann long tube headers and x-pipe with resonator and all four catalysts deleted on my C63PP, very happy with the result and wouldnt change it, no matter the costs. Stock mufflers.
I was really never into Mercedes, just BMW. Between watch this channel and and Tavarish's, I am a changed man. Popped my cherry a few months back and bought a '92 300E w124 coupe. What a joy to drive !! 170k miles but ran like a clock. Very minimal repairs needed and never leaked any fluids. Sadly had to sell it for financial reasons. I will be in the market in the future for a '95 or so C36 AMG 6 cylinder, your thoughts?
Whenever I come across a stud like that, I usually take two other nuts and tighten them together on the opposite side. Then you can use two wrenches, one on the nuts that are tightened together and one on the stuck nut, to remove the one that is stuck. Just ensures that the threads on the stud are preserved. Great video!
Deez nuts
I used a cheap china 304 duel exhaust OBX from headers back on my 90 C4 Corvette and there was al sorts of cutting and welding involved to get them to fit, later on one of the welds on the exhaust brackets on the muffler broke china welds and I ended up welding it and reinforcing it, since then I have had no problems one thing I can say is it is a good looking exhaust and the 304 stainless is holding up well.
I installed a set of China Long tubes on my E55 and did it without a lift. I didnt need to fanangle the engine to the side either.. maybe I was just lucky but I was able to get it in.. it was super close though I bet the manufacturing tolerances vary enough to where you got a set that were a PITA to install. I also had new motor mounts in when I did the headers so maybe that helped a little.
Good information
Thanks
Would the CLK black trans mount and Maybach engine mounts fit a W209 M113 (MY2004 CLK500)? If so, would you recommend it?
Yes
How about the W204 C350, do they fit as well or is there an alternatve?
I'm the one who suggested them to Alex. I did the installation on my C55.
The CLK Black mounts fit perfectly on 211, 203, and 209 chassis. They make a difference you can feel.
Only the transmission mount will fit a 204.
@@RidgewoodMachine Thanks! What's the difference between the CLK Black vs Maybach engine mounts?
@@FixItRyan they are the same engine mounts but the Black transmission mount is the one Alex used. Maybachs use the standard MB trans mount.
Hey Alex. Quick question. Have you ever worked on an SLS AMG as a tech? Interested to hear your opinion on them. How do you think ownership would be like?
Every time I see people use Makita tools, it makes me happy. I think I'm becoming a fanboy...
Man, I wish I knew about Maybach engine Mounts before I replaced mine. Driver side sucked to get in, Not doing it over again.
ok just finished the video and it looks beautiful, as always great job!! Going to change my engine mounts through the front by moving the alternator and ac pump instead. LOL they are completely shot.
Thanks Bob!
Great video.
Did you keep the original mufflers or were they deleted?
I’ve got an 03 E500, with some magnaflow straight through mufflers, x pipe secondary cat delete, thinking about installing this kit. What do u think? Only thing I’m worried about no back pressure, and going from 3” to
2 1/4”.
just starting the video here so I don't know how it went yet, but I gotta say they headers look pretty damn ncie.
Exhaust is like top 3 most important mod.
Love the vids... Great content! Love the car but I prefer coupes. Any thoughts about the C207 w/M278 engine? I would appreciate your opinion!
i did those on right hand drive e55, which required they be modified to fit around steering, oem mufflers remain, and despite looking and looking, still cannot find why they rattle for half second on cold start. very impressed with low down torque they produce so after stressing about the rattle, i gave up on that and just enjoy them now. interesting that neither alex or nobody else seemed notice one side hangs lower at flex joint
Is it just me or does that front drivers lift pad look like it's on the floor pan at 15:23? Great vid btw
Hey Alex, just started following you, enjoy watching what you’ve been posting and learning the ins and outs of these cars, Did you end up selling those mid lengths yet? I’m not to far away from you
Hey Alex, You should've removed the other side of the pipe in order to make it fit better not only the passenger side, since both sides are welded at the X--pipe so it kept on pushing.
I have the same China headers, just stamped with a different brand. Like you alluded to, they're all knock-offs of ones made by American Racing Headers. I can't remember exactly why ARH even made them originally for the W211 E55 since it's such a relatively tiny market, but I think there was some serendipity involved. Anyway I think these long tubes and x-pipe on the E55 sound amazing. And I don't know the gains over shorties and mid-length headers, but I gained a consistent 5+ mph in my traps after swapping out the stock manifolds for these and getting an off-the-shelf retune. My only problem with them is the same problem I have with almost all long tube headers on any car, which is that they mess with ground clearance a good bit. The consensus best headers for the E55 are made by MBH, which incidentally don't reduce ground clearance, but the price of their x-pipe alone is almost what these China headers cost in their entirety.
very interested in seeing what you picked up on the dyno
The toe out on that trans am is like 5 degrees you should adjust the tie rods.
That's easy fitment. Really. I've seen header install that took much longer, and had to bash floors, header tubes etc... Then after multiple times in & out of the car they finally kind-of fit.
looking at a 06 cls55 amg. anything i should keep an eye out for? thanks. great vid like always
Nice job :) looking good
Alex, what did you do for the post cat sensors? Did you just extend the oil level sensor wires, or did you find some extensions that match up to the factory plugs?
Just bought a W211 keychain tag. Keep up the good content dude! More C55 content 😛
Packaging it up right now!! Thanks
Great video... yea I was also bumped you did not do a open header start up ...
Do you see any future issues with accessing components (starter motor, transmission removal, etc) with those long tubes installed?
It looks great
Not sure if you addressed this below or on another video... I installed these headers and extended the O2 sensors with Fabspeed universal 90 degree 02 spacers w/ catalytic converters. I still get a check engine light "P2096 Post Catalyst Fuel Trim System Too Lean Bank 1". Please help! Suggestions?! Recommendations?! Thx you!
Looks like it fits fine
Damn, weren't we just celebrating 100k subscribers like, 3 days ago? And you're sporting 113k already? Nice work!
Thanks brother. Yea the channel is growing great. Very thankful
Epic content!
So I plan on putting the m113k into my clk320. Will I be able to drop the motor with the headers installed?
Hey Alex there is a C55 with 235k on the clock for only 5k on Craigslist in Federal way Washington. It looked to be in good shape with few problems. I think this car would fit your channel Well! I'd watch 🤘
Cool vid, have s question have R320. What is it with these Benz radios? Can't change station or adjust volume. I scanned the car got a code said cd eject button stuck. Any pointer you can give? Once again cool vid.
How do you put the stud back in ? Do you put thread it into engine first or can you do it with manifold ?
Hey Alex, do the aero, panels that bolt on underneath the body no longer fit with the header installation?
For breaking up the rust on studs the very best product I've found has been "Break Free". You can get it at almost any Cabela's Sporting Goods store since it is used for cleaning guns and was developed to clean military M16 in Vietnam.
Awesome I'll check it out.
@@LegitStreetCars We used it to break loose bolts on 100 year old Historical Trollies when we were refurbishing them. Just a few drops would penetrate so fast that 1-1/2" diameter bolts could be loosened in just hours. Bolts and studs like the ones shown would come loose within minutes. I used it on the exhaust bolts of my old 1967 200D (110.110.10.32765) when it finally needed replacement. Two drops on each an hour later then nuts came off easily. I've had several MB's and am looking at a 2005 E320 wagon and have looked for a long time like you suggest to get the best for the least looking them over thoroughly before buying. VERY GOOD ADVICE.
ALEX, I bought these same headers from XS-Power and had no fit issues Other than the heat shield which was not a big deal at all it crumps very easily.. I put a thread on AMG FORUM. I bought the VRP pulley also and I noticed a great power increase with the headers . It sounds great too!
Nice.6_-29-20 e55amg. Need license..Keep it original. I say mods. Maybach mounts. China headers. Pully.169kmi.2005.Thanks for your service. CHICAGO Tommy.
Hey i have a E63AMG and it has gone into limp mode twice. I just turned the car off and opened the door. Gave it a few seconds and the car was fine. But why did it go into limp mode and what do i do about it
What about the rear O2 sensors? No check engine light?
Hahaha the bleep 😭 great video man 🙏🏼
5 years and still counting how ive yet to find that one song @ 7:40 to jam...
Zip tie the after cat o2s off heat shield. Just need to any electronic signals to eliminate chk engine light
Do the adapter plate an put a big Whipple charger on it.
I have a 2013 e550w4 and want to put a weistec exhaust on it. Any chance you want to do it and share the experience? Love your videos
Alex, make sure you address that front driveshaft knuckle, those parts arent fun sounding when they break, nice video keep It up btw!
Hey Alex what about the check engine light? What did you do about it?
Hey man fan of the channel for a while now, also in Illinois lol, but quick question for you. I have had several subscribers and followers of my small channel along with people I meet at shows ask me why my 2005 c55 makes that wining sound on cold startup then quiets down after it warms up, almost every m113\113k does this same thing! There are so many different things people say it could be on the forms. Thus I have no good answer for them or myself. As my car has only 59k miles on it bought with 19k on it and has made this noise since day one, there has to be an explanation lol I was wondering with your vast AMG experience if you may be able to shed some light! Thanks for the content as always man! Cheers
Alex , ALifeWithCars
Are you gonna add killer chiller for better recovery?
I know it's been 5 years since you've done this video. But I think you are the best guy to ask. I am trying to install long tube headers on a driver's side. It is a pain! Do you recall if you've had studs in when aligning headers on a driver's side or you've threaded studs in after alignment? Thanks!
Acetone mixed with ATF makes a really good penetrating oil.
Been there done it easy :)
1 tip heat shields before bolting down everything mount it loose mark the heat shield areas where it touch, remove everything and use and nice big clean rubber hammer. Problem solve plenty of clearance nothing is touching: Clearance afterwards :) Approx my F finger between 😁😁😁
Also did my Midt Length Headers myself in my garage in the floor having good jacks and MB jack pads helps alot. Did in December last year. Installed everything lined up. Had car picked up with transporter - exhaust shop adjusted those really bad fitting Downpipes is so off I don't understand what the point was lol but u difently need a skilled exhaust to finish up.
(Mine starte d leaking) had it fixed but yes the grafit gaskets are crap:)
And today long headers.
Awesome video
4 years later after this video went live im still wondering for the song at 7:40 and every so often it still pops in my mind how i should never buy chinese headers 🤣