For anyone that doesn't get the title: Hydrocephalus is a condition where cerebrospinal fluid builds up in the head causing swelling. The joke being that the slide was overly swollen and also a "big brained" idea, sarcastically of course.
@Jean-Louis Bourgeois He definitely prefers the .40 Short & Weak. The round that resulted when the FBI switched to 10mm, then it hurt their soft little hands, so they made it weaker and smaller.
@First Name Last Name .40 S&W in terms of energy is at least comparable to .45ACP. There are .40S&W loads that are more powerful than .45ACP, and vice versa. Off the shelf .40S&W ball tends to be a 180gr bullet @ 1,000 ft/sec. Standard .45ACP is a 230gr bullet @ 850 ft/sec. Unless you're going subsonic, I think .40S&W seems better as you can get over 600 joules of muzzle energy without losing as much capacity over 9mm as you would with .45ACP.
I already kinda knew about the P7M10 but I thought "hydrocephalic" referred to some special feature in the gun. Then I googled the term and I can't stop laughing XDXDXDXD
I like how HK welcomes you in and I assume have no issue with saying "guys you tried but really screwed the pooch on this one" with no issues. Good for you and even good for HK for trying because you never know.
I loved the P7M10, for just one reason, the magazine is literally the exact same as the P7M13 magazine save for its markings, which meant that I could legally buy the M10 magazine during the Clinton ban and not pay the nasty high cost of the “pre-ban” M13 mags.
One of the armed HK inquisitors that stands watch over the Gray Room at all times. He coughed to stop Ian from committing blasphemy in the presence of the MP5 prototypes.
Well credit where its due. H&K figured out you can't stuff a .40 S&W into a gun designed to work with the .9mm cartridge. Pity that none of the other firearms companies at the time couldn't figure that out.
@@neutronalchemist3241 Nah I get that, just while some stronger designs could easily handle the increase in caliber, there were just about as many guns that weren't ready for that jump and, while not exploding like early glocks, definitely had shorter service lives
Ian, great video as always. But I've gotta say, I really personally appreciate that H&K allows you repeated access to their grey room, and you're clearly being obliged to share your honest opinions and assessments. I actually respect H&K even more knowing that they encourage the dissemination of knowledge and history. Be it good or bad. Keep up the great work!
I still own one. The owner hated it but 40 was really hot at the time and not many options were available. I bought it dirt cheap and it was barely shot. It has been basically a safe queen. I have always liked the PSP/P7 series. I have PSP, P7,P7M8, P7M13,P7K3, and P7M10. If only I had the 45 prototype lol. Great video Ian
I'm officially old. I remember when some of these "forgotten weapons" were the latest and greatest thing. I never realized I was living through some interesting times.
Funny thing when you start realizing stuff like that. Although I would only wish "interesting times" on someone who earned my eternal enmity. My first such realization was when I heard that the Rolling Stones were together for 24 years, and I don't even want to know how long ago that was. LOL
The .40 was a significant improvement in terminal performance over the 9mm, no matter what the internet says. It still is. And most 45’s in the 1990’s held less than 10 rounds, compared to the 12-15 of similar sized .40’s (Sorry Ian, but you started it.)
Got a cold in the middle of moving, so I've been sitting in bed watching your videos and occasionally getting up to help lift something heavy. Thank you for making these great videos!
I got to handle one of these some years ago. To me, it brought to mind the Pregnant Guppy/Super Guppy airplane used by NASA to transport rocket sections.
Exactly. He said, basically, anybody with half a clue about the american market would have known this would fail. Thanks for the hospitality! But seriously, HK knows what the deal is when it comes to this channel - it's history, it's facts. They don't mind.
Well, he even mentioned that HK USA was in disagreement with the HQ in Germany, so I guess HK USA doesn't really mind Ian bashing this abomination, they never wanted it to begin with.
I carried an M10 as a duty weapon for about 6 years, and carried the M13 for four years before that and an M8 before that. The P7's were a great duty weapon for its time.
One thing you may find interesting is that a version of this weapon was one of the handguns that were tested by the DOD to replace the M1911. The H&K model presented was the first handgun that passed the "mud" test and most of the testers though selecting it would be best. Strangely, the Beretta was selected, and a few weeks after that was announced, the Italian government announced it was going to spend millions for repair parts for its US made fighter jets.
Enrico Paolo Coronado I guess that’s the challenge of designing something that works so well in one caliber, that it really doesn’t work well in anything else
@@UnrelatedNonsense Unless if they do it right which is surprising since H&K is one of the top manufacturers of firearms in the world. How they manage to flop at appealing to LE is an interesting surprise.
You know there’s a group of people out there that own these that tell anybody who’ll listen “This is HKs best design, it was just too far ahead of its time...”
With regards to real life stopping power there is a guy here on YT who analyzed tens of thousands of real life shootings. The result was that there is very little difference in stopping power between .380ACP and anything more powerful like 9mm, .45, .357Mag or .40 ie it took between 2.1 and 1.8 hits to reliably stop an opponent. This was corroborated by some guy from a ammunition manufacturer (in another video) who explained that above a certain level results in ballistic gel could not be directly transferred to living tissue.
another thing that is intresting is how many rounds do the shooter have to fire. before the threat is taken care of. for i have fired 9 mm luger, .45 apc and 357 mag. Off them I would go with 9 mm luger. as even for a total beginner i was able to put hits on papper with it. It don´t matter if a hit on a toe would take out the threat if you can´t hit the broadside of a barn with the sidearm.
@@exploatores well yeah, stopping power is great but there is no sense carrying 500 SW revolver if you are recoil sensitive and can't hit anything 6ft in front of you because of that. I mean if you are comfortable shooting and can even hit something with 380, why have 500 that you can't hit anything with? Unless you are using it as a CQB club, but there is better options for that also.
Years ago my mother bought my dad the nickel plated version of this gun, think he shot it once. Still sits in the original HK box. I always thought it looked badass and weird ha.
Kudos to H&K for letting you showcase one of their failures. We all know they happen, but I doubt many companies would want the world to see their sillier ideas and failures.
I am a p7 fanboy.. I own the M8, M13 & yes I have a nickle M10. Love them all.. Though I thought that there was 2 guns in the box when it arrived at the gun store. Just happened to be one M10. It is a beast.
I got one of the MP 10’s and quickly began to experience some of the issues noted like the bore axis, slide weight, and no polygonal rifling. One other thing I noticed that was not mentioned is the magazines although marked for the M10 and M13 were basically interchangeable. Mine M10 mag worked also with theP7 M13. I swapped them once and they all functioned in either pistol. The weight was the biggest problem in addition to the cost. I would never see carrying the M10. The H&K USP IN 40 Cal was a much better platform despite being a full sized weapon.
Great video as usual. You have been in HK's grey room a few times now, have you ever considered making a video about the place? There's some cool looking hardware in the background, maybe a pan across the room to show us the setup they got?
@@luisgimenez8660 I am not all that sure: immediately after the cartridge has been fired the slide remains in its closed position almost motionless with respect to the frame. What causes muzzle climb is the angular momentum caused by the gas pressure acting upon the brass in the chamber. The so called moment arm in this case is determined by the distance between the barrel axis and the top of the shooter's hand on the grip. And said distance is the sama as in conventional P7. But you are right as far as the cycling of the gun is concerned: it will jerk more than a 9mm one.
You said the mass to the slide was added for the extra pressure of the .40S&W. Did you mean "recoil", as the 9mm, and .40 both run at the same SAAMI spec. pressure of 35,000psi, hence the abundance of "conversion" guns offered, which is simply a barrel and mag swap, as the .40 also uses the 9mm case head dimensions.
In reality, Ian, H&K was traveling and touring, and temptation got the better of them. They didn't have the comfort and safety of being back home, and got involved with a street walker named Hi Point. That's how the P7M10 was made.
That HK system is the best safety/cocking system ever developed. Someone needs to develop a new pistol around it, without the heat issues. The originals are getting too expensive to shoot. I’m kicking myself for never having bought one long ago (not a .40 though).
After this (very good!) video I revisited your P7 family video from January 2019. In that you mentioned the other two police service pistols in Germany at the time, the Walther P5 and the Sig Sauer P6/P225. While the SIG is probably as well known as it gets, wouldn't the Walther P5 be a worthy "forgotten" weapon for a video of its own?
I worked with the German riot police during the trials to adopt a new handgun and they had higher rates of accidental discharge using the squeeze cocker pistols than other types.
This looks like it was designed by a guy on a Friday afternoon before a holiday weekend. "Ummm, yeah... I going to need you to stay late today and get that .40S&W version finished. ...So, if you could do that, that would be great..."
The P7M10, the Colt 2000, the S&W Sigma and the CZ 100 should be put thru some sort of InRangeTV trial with Benny Hill music playing in the background.
As I’ve asked before, why didn’t someone at H and K turn the gas delay and barrel upside down?! As Ian mentioned, part of the appeal of the P7 is the low line from the barrel to the shooter’s arm. By inverting the barrel and gas delay, this improves the low line, takes the hot gas delay away from the shooters hand. Win, win.
Rolling Blackouts bore axis is the position of the barrel in relation to your grip point. Lower is regarded as better. The height of your sights offset from your barrel is referred to as “mechanical offset”
For anyone that doesn't get the title: Hydrocephalus is a condition where cerebrospinal fluid builds up in the head causing swelling.
The joke being that the slide was overly swollen and also a "big brained" idea, sarcastically of course.
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Back when my sister was younger she used to sing a song about water on the brain it went “hi ho the Derry o water on the brain water on the brain”
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Nothing grabs viewership better than a little pretentiousness.
The "capacity of a 45 and the stopping power of a 9mm". Now that's a burn!
Christopher Nemeth get the worst of both worlds!
@First Name Last Name
It is with FBI and police loads.
@First Name Last Name
They barely have enough powder load to cycle to slide, you're really gonna tell me that's gonna make for good stopping power?
@Jean-Louis Bourgeois He definitely prefers the .40 Short & Weak. The round that resulted when the FBI switched to 10mm, then it hurt their soft little hands, so they made it weaker and smaller.
@First Name Last Name .40 S&W in terms of energy is at least comparable to .45ACP. There are .40S&W loads that are more powerful than .45ACP, and vice versa. Off the shelf .40S&W ball tends to be a 180gr bullet @ 1,000 ft/sec. Standard .45ACP is a 230gr bullet @ 850 ft/sec. Unless you're going subsonic, I think .40S&W seems better as you can get over 600 joules of muzzle energy without losing as much capacity over 9mm as you would with .45ACP.
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fizz that’s what she said 😐
Never thought I'd see "hydrocephalic" used to describe a pistol
i thought it was some weird esoteric finish
that's one word I regret googling during breakfast
@Omne Obstat That was also me when I saw the notification
A water pistol maybe...
Here I was thinking it had some kind of novel water-based hydraulic recoil management or trigger system. Nope - just a fat head.
Gas-Delayed Hi-Point.
You did it, H&K.
Beat me to it....
Dang it, I was going to say that
HK: No Compromises
"You've come a long way, H&K"
can we call it a yeet canon?
Every day we get closer to the halo ce magnum
I already kinda knew about the P7M10 but I thought "hydrocephalic" referred to some special feature in the gun.
Then I googled the term and I can't stop laughing XDXDXDXD
I guessed it was waterproof, for "wet" work, then i had to watch to find out.
Wow, not a lot of people here that know much about human anatomy.
Is anatomy really the word you're looking for? A lot of people here don't know a lot about English.
Adam, to be fair, it's a rather obscure medical condition, not an anatomic term.
I like how HK welcomes you in and I assume have no issue with saying "guys you tried but really screwed the pooch on this one" with no issues. Good for you and even good for HK for trying because you never know.
Gun Jesus whilst proselytizing to the HK apostles: One of you will betray me (casting a sideways glance at the P7M10)...
Oh god ... wait a minute, wasn't the G41 the one that truely sucked ?
I had a P7 PSP and it was the best handgun I have ever fired or owned. I wish someone would build it again.
I loved the P7M10, for just one reason, the magazine is literally the exact same as the P7M13 magazine save for its markings, which meant that I could legally buy the M10 magazine during the Clinton ban and not pay the nasty high cost of the “pre-ban” M13 mags.
Who DARE cough in the background while Ian speaketh?!?
Burn the heretic! No disrespecting the Gun Jesus!
One of the armed HK inquisitors that stands watch over the Gray Room at all times. He coughed to stop Ian from committing blasphemy in the presence of the MP5 prototypes.
Saw "hydrocephalic," thought "oof."
Saw the gun, thought, "ohhh." That's quite the look for a pistol, especially an H&K.
Well credit where its due. H&K figured out you can't stuff a .40 S&W into a gun designed to work with the .9mm cartridge. Pity that none of the other firearms companies at the time couldn't figure that out.
Many pistols designed to work with 9mm handle the .40 S&W pretty well.
Neutron Alchemist stop speaking logical, sir.
@@neutronalchemist3241 Is that why early 40 cal Glocks would explode? :p
@@zelpyzelp "many" is different from "all".
@@neutronalchemist3241 Nah I get that, just while some stronger designs could easily handle the increase in caliber, there were just about as many guns that weren't ready for that jump and, while not exploding like early glocks, definitely had shorter service lives
Ian, great video as always. But I've gotta say, I really personally appreciate that H&K allows you repeated access to their grey room, and you're clearly being obliged to share your honest opinions and assessments. I actually respect H&K even more knowing that they encourage the dissemination of knowledge and history. Be it good or bad. Keep up the great work!
Dr Hibbert: Good Lord! Gigantism!
The best judgement on that whole squeeze cocker gimmick is that no other handgun manufacturer tried to copy it.
I still own one. The owner hated it but 40 was really hot at the time and not many options were available. I bought it dirt cheap and it was barely shot. It has been basically a safe queen. I have always liked the PSP/P7 series. I have PSP, P7,P7M8, P7M13,P7K3, and P7M10. If only I had the 45 prototype lol. Great video Ian
I'm officially old. I remember when some of these "forgotten weapons" were the latest and greatest thing. I never realized I was living through some interesting times.
Funny thing when you start realizing stuff like that. Although I would only wish "interesting times" on someone who earned my eternal enmity. My first such realization was when I heard that the Rolling Stones were together for 24 years, and I don't even want to know how long ago that was. LOL
The .40 was a significant improvement in terminal performance over the 9mm, no matter what the internet says. It still is. And most 45’s in the 1990’s held less than 10 rounds, compared to the 12-15 of similar sized .40’s (Sorry Ian, but you started it.)
.40 for the win 💪 - best (not worst) of both imho!!! Have owned/shot all 3 - CZ varietals…
I would have gone with "beluga pistol'
I bought one of these for my mom for concealed carry, she took lessons and stuff and now shes a really good shot. Theyre fantastic guns.
Got a cold in the middle of moving, so I've been sitting in bed watching your videos and occasionally getting up to help lift something heavy. Thank you for making these great videos!
Happy New year Forgotten Weapons, and thanks for all the videos.
I got to handle one of these some years ago. To me, it brought to mind the Pregnant Guppy/Super Guppy airplane used by NASA to transport rocket sections.
6:38 More like "Thanks to HK for letting me into the Gray Room to bash their failed pistol" 🙈
Exactly. He said, basically, anybody with half a clue about the american market would have known this would fail. Thanks for the hospitality! But seriously, HK knows what the deal is when it comes to this channel - it's history, it's facts. They don't mind.
@@scottstewart5784 the sainted monks of the HK grey room know that only truth may pass the lips of Gun Jesus , They would not dream of impinging !
@@Govanmauler Or infringing! Like the Second Amendment says, Gun Jesus shall not be infringed.
Well, he even mentioned that HK USA was in disagreement with the HQ in Germany, so I guess HK USA doesn't really mind Ian bashing this abomination, they never wanted it to begin with.
@@ytfakemail on top off that, the brass in Krautland that push for it have been enjoying their pensions for a while.
That whopping great slide reminds me of a lot of the "blaster" designs from the old 2000AD comic
Grokk!
@@visionist7☺
I carried an M10 as a duty weapon for about 6 years, and carried the M13 for four years before that and an M8 before that. The P7's were a great duty weapon for its time.
One thing you may find interesting is that a version of this weapon was one of the handguns that were tested by the DOD to replace the M1911. The H&K model presented was the first handgun that passed the "mud" test and most of the testers though selecting it would be best. Strangely, the Beretta was selected, and a few weeks after that was announced, the Italian government announced it was going to spend millions for repair parts for its US made fighter jets.
Hot damn the forehead on that gun lol
at least a fivehead
Scott Stewart I’d go so far as to call it a fortyhead. *finger guns*
@@alastair852 your joke is an order of magnitude improvement
Thank you , Ian .
I would rather see a review about that UMP in the background!
That one is coming.
Basically it was a "Good Idea, Terrible Execution" moment for H&K.
Enrico Paolo Coronado I guess that’s the challenge of designing something that works so well in one caliber, that it really doesn’t work well in anything else
@@UnrelatedNonsense Unless if they do it right which is surprising since H&K is one of the top manufacturers of firearms in the world.
How they manage to flop at appealing to LE is an interesting surprise.
The additional weight was for higher melee damage.
And gun jesus did say unto H&K, what werest thou thinking welding a pound of iron onto thy slide....
Great 👍 video and p7 m10 prices only going up . Terrific engineering
Hi-Point: Bruh
Lots of comments from people who have never owned one. Been carrying one since 1995. Great pistol.
You know there’s a group of people out there that own these that tell anybody who’ll listen “This is HKs best design, it was just too far ahead of its time...”
One of the sickest burn on address of .40 cal. i have ever heard
@First Name Last Name Probably true early on its lifespan, but suppose the technique to manufacture and load the carts have improved since
@First Name Last Name I am not arguing on that since i myself have limited knowledge on the matter. I just found it sounding cool, that's all
vIcaRus it is true. Compromises will always be compromises.
Koji 888 it’s 2020 and there’s still 40SW fans out there? Wow.
With regards to real life stopping power there is a guy here on YT who analyzed tens of thousands of real life shootings.
The result was that there is very little difference in stopping power between .380ACP and anything more powerful like 9mm, .45, .357Mag or .40 ie it took between 2.1 and 1.8 hits to reliably stop an opponent.
This was corroborated by some guy from a ammunition manufacturer (in another video) who explained that above a certain level results in ballistic gel could not be directly transferred to living tissue.
another thing that is intresting is how many rounds do the shooter have to fire. before the threat is taken care of. for i have fired 9 mm luger, .45 apc and 357 mag. Off them I would go with 9 mm luger. as even for a total beginner i was able to put hits on papper with it. It don´t matter if a hit on a toe would take out the threat if you can´t hit the broadside of a barn with the sidearm.
Exploatores “Fast is fine, but accuracy is final.” -Wyatt Earp
@@exploatores well yeah, stopping power is great but there is no sense carrying 500 SW revolver if you are recoil sensitive and can't hit anything 6ft in front of you because of that. I mean if you are comfortable shooting and can even hit something with 380, why have 500 that you can't hit anything with? Unless you are using it as a CQB club, but there is better options for that also.
*sees .40 S&W appear on, explained by, and shat on by Forgotten Weapons*
[Laughs triumphantly in 10mm ownership]
Didn't he say "thou shalt not practice hand-cannoniering?"
Edit: fixed grammar and it's just a friendly joke, just in case
3:42 No, Ian, that is clearly James Bond's gun.
Years ago my mother bought my dad the nickel plated version of this gun, think he shot it once. Still sits in the original HK box. I always thought it looked badass and weird ha.
Guns & Ammo gave it 5 stars and a game changer!
Great pistol. One of my friends calls it a boat anchor. These shoot really well but are a little heavy for daily carry
Loved my M13
That's a fancy Hi Point.
Another good video McCollum
Most law enforcement 40 S&W ammo generates close 500 FPE. I'd say that's a bit more then the standard 350 FPE 9mm.
Still worse penetration and permanent wound cavity so yea your round is still dead
ImDønêCårîng and .40 in anything CCW oriented feels like catching a MLB pitcher’s fastball #youch
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Kudos to H&K for letting you showcase one of their failures. We all know they happen, but I doubt many companies would want the world to see their sillier ideas and failures.
The greater mass is testament to the dramatically increased power of .40 to 9mm.
You were being fast & loose. :)
Nice discussion.
I am a p7 fanboy.. I own the M8, M13 & yes I have a nickle M10. Love them all.. Though I thought that there was 2 guns in the box when it arrived at the gun store. Just happened to be one M10. It is a beast.
Good 2020! More interesting weapon reviews! Thank you for your work from Russia.
Q: "007 Your mission is a top secret mission to America. Here is the sidearm you will be using." " Bond: "This looks blooding disgusting."
H & K makes a Hi-Point! And out of respect to H&K's over thinking everything, Ian uses medical terminology to describe their folly!
The 9mm regular P7 is a still-loved law enforcement sidearm in Germany.
I got one of the MP 10’s and quickly began to experience some of the issues noted like the bore axis, slide weight, and no polygonal rifling. One other thing I noticed that was not mentioned is the magazines although marked for the M10 and M13 were basically interchangeable. Mine M10 mag worked also with theP7 M13. I swapped them once and they all functioned in either pistol. The weight was the biggest problem in addition to the cost. I would never see carrying the M10. The H&K USP IN 40 Cal was a much better platform despite being a full sized weapon.
With a slide/barrel in the standard profile, but 5 or so inches long, the M10 would have been a sweet gun.
Great video as usual. You have been in HK's grey room a few times now, have you ever considered making a video about the place? There's some cool looking hardware in the background, maybe a pan across the room to show us the setup they got?
On M10, the bore axis _is_ the same as that of the 9mm variety. All the offset happened _over_ the barrel.
In this case is more important the axis (gravity center)of the slide recoiling.
@@luisgimenez8660 I am not all that sure: immediately after the cartridge has been fired the slide remains in its closed position almost motionless with respect to the frame. What causes muzzle climb is the angular momentum caused by the gas pressure acting upon the brass in the chamber. The so called moment arm in this case is determined by the distance between the barrel axis and the top of the shooter's hand on the grip. And said distance is the sama as in conventional P7. But you are right as far as the cycling of the gun is concerned: it will jerk more than a 9mm one.
There's nothing funny about hydrocephalus but it's an accurate description
Serial number 007. Koch... Heckler & Koch...
You said the mass to the slide was added for the extra pressure of the .40S&W. Did you mean "recoil", as the 9mm, and .40 both run at the same SAAMI spec. pressure of 35,000psi, hence the abundance of "conversion" guns offered, which is simply a barrel and mag swap, as the .40 also uses the 9mm case head dimensions.
I have never felt as though my Patreon dollars were wasted on you. Thanks once again for a great video!
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Never thought I'd make fun of a gun for its forehead before, but here I am.
In reality, Ian, H&K was traveling and touring, and temptation got the better of them. They didn't have the comfort and safety of being back home, and got involved with a street walker named Hi Point. That's how the P7M10 was made.
Casually flexing the 007 serial number 😂
"In reality, you kinda get the capacity of a 45 with the stopping powah of a 9mm.."
savage roast, you should be a gun world's stand up comedian 😂
I still dream to see at least one review of any of the korobov tkb rifles
I love my P7M10. I shot very well with it at the Police academy. In fact I could out shoot any of the other students with their Glocks, S&W and Sigs.
hey Ian review the 600. nitro express Pfeifer Zeliska revolver
Sandra Medrano yes
Yes
_yes_
Please fire it too, Lord!
I'm sure he'd love to if you have one to borrow for him.
Why didn't they just drill out the gas port to increase the resistance against slide opening??
I'm here because I heard the gun being in a book by Lee Child named ”Heat” (good book btw) so I simply wanted to find out more about it :)
That HK system is the best safety/cocking system ever developed. Someone needs to develop a new pistol around it, without the heat issues.
The originals are getting too expensive to shoot. I’m kicking myself for never having bought one long ago (not a .40 though).
After this (very good!) video I revisited your P7 family video from January 2019. In that you mentioned the other two police service pistols in Germany at the time, the Walther P5 and the Sig Sauer P6/P225. While the SIG is probably as well known as it gets, wouldn't the Walther P5 be a worthy "forgotten" weapon for a video of its own?
I worked with the German riot police during the trials to adopt a new handgun and they had higher rates of accidental discharge using the squeeze cocker pistols than other types.
Today's episode of Best-forgotten Weapons features this...
This looks like it was designed by a guy on a Friday afternoon before a holiday weekend.
"Ummm, yeah... I going to need you to stay late today and get that .40S&W version finished. ...So, if you could do that, that would be great..."
The one on the back right over your right shoulder, east of the albino, what's it called?
Would a stronger recoil spring or spring combination have served the purpose? I have a Beretta in .40S&W that I'm quite fond of.
This is a very good looking gun in my opinion.
A precise machine.
It doesn't actually look terrible from the side.
The P7M10, the Colt 2000, the S&W Sigma and the CZ 100 should be put thru some sort of InRangeTV trial with Benny Hill music playing in the background.
Serial number 007. Which is funny, because I can't imagine James Bond discreetly slipping this monstrosity into his tuxedo jacket.
As I’ve asked before, why didn’t someone at H and K turn the gas delay and barrel upside down?!
As Ian mentioned, part of the appeal of the P7 is the low line from the barrel to the shooter’s arm. By inverting the barrel and gas delay, this improves the low line, takes the hot gas delay away from the shooters hand. Win, win.
One minute in and Ian already has the 40S&W fanboys losing their minds. I almost expected to hear “WORLDSTAR” from the background in a German accent
Hehe, Hydro-Phalic pistol. Love Germany. Amazing birthday present for me.
It's Big Brain Time!
A pistol which doubles as a body shield only the Germans could have designed such a beast.
What I wouldn’t give to spend a week in that room, unsupervised
The "bore" axis isn't actually higher, the reciprocating mass they added is high, but the bore stayed right where it was.
Its like I'm watching a modern version of "Tails of the Gun"!
I don't think that's how "bore axis" works. My understanding is that sight height is completely different from bore axis.
Rolling Blackouts bore axis is the position of the barrel in relation to your grip point. Lower is regarded as better.
The height of your sights offset from your barrel is referred to as “mechanical offset”
Oh, a super nice HighPoint
Well that’s a word that I regret googling
The p7 and Hipoint both look down upon this strange creation.
That's not the serial number. That's the gun of James Bond.
A video on the P11 would be awesome
OH LAWD IT COMIN