Things that upsetted me (I'm picky so beware lol) : •None of the characters were how I physically pictured them •Pips accent •Ravi's having no personality • No chemistry between them • Pip being nowhere near as clever as she was in the book • It was all super rushed •Nat being friends with Andie •No Stanley • Unnecessarily putting Pip's stepdad as a suspect • The whole Isla knowing she's not Andie thing • Becca being completely psychotic instead of just scared and a little crazy • The fact that Pip WENT WITH HER to go see Andie's body like she is sm smarter in the book • Barely any Howie Bowers • Naomi not feeling nearly as bad she did in the book about what happened • The fact that they didn't go back and retrace Sal's steps when that was one of the best parts of the book • How terrible the interviews were
you get me same with the location yes the location is pretty! but i pictured the town more janky, its not meant to be pretty its a small town with murders, and the town is so pretty, it messes with the cinimatic vibe of film, the book was more angsty and the film didnt have that same vibe
@coco-cv3ne if u read the book, he was so charismatic and funny, all the time. Pip and Ravi were also friends before they got together, a team. This wasn't the case in the show
was waiting for this video, I literally couldn't finish this show. I get some changes have to be made in adaptations, but some of the changes they made were just so nonsensical. Pip's character felt complerely different, and the way she found out most of her information made her seem frankly no where near as intelligent as she is in the book. she is literally spoonfed everything she finds out, she stumbles into everything instead of piecing it together. I couldn't get over how she literally immediately fucks up every single interview by pissing people off into not talking to her, in the book she gets a lot out of the interviews bc she's clever about how she asks things!
All the discoveries were so ridiculously groundless. Despite fucking her interviews up and pissing people off, THEY STILL GIVE HER ANSWERS FOR ABSOLUTELY NO FUCKING REASON!?!?!?!
I haven't read the book but I think those flaws were put in so Pip doesn't feel like a Mary Sue. I have my issues with people randomly throwing that phrase around but I think that's what they were trying to avoid.
Pip feels so dumb in the series, even the finale like omg. In the book she uses her brain to make logical connections and unravel truths that people don’t want to tell her. In the series it’s just SO ANNOYINGLY EASY!
If I hadn’t read the book I wouldn’t have understood a thing about episode 1, because the information was so weirdly put out. Episode one and we were ALREADY interviewing f*ing Max Hastings, but still had no context of Andy’s family, life, personality, Sal’s personality, the case and ambient at school… just terrible
Agree and I feel like a big part of it is this stupid 6 episode structure thing. I feel like they had to have her figure things out super fast so that they could squeeze everything in. The same thing happens in the Percy Jackson show when instead of naive kids who consistently walk into traps throughout their quest like they are in the books, they notice what’s going on right away, defeat the monster, and then move on. it’s so frustrating! Like why do shows insist on doing these short little seasons?
So many things were wrong 😭 My biggest issue: WHERE ON EARTH WAS STANLEY, HOW ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO CONTINUE WITHOUT HIM They changed sooooo many scenes. Like the role of Howie the drug dealer wasn’t at all how it was in the book. Nat was so much more involved in the book than in the show. Andie wasn’t portrayed as a more so “bad” person like she was in the first book. And I totally agree with the lack of mystery 😤
Ikkk WHERE THE HECK WAS STANLEYYYY! Also like ofc it makes scense to change some stuff when making a book a show but removing a character that you NEED for the next book/season is just not it:(. Also I was annoyed about Howie bowers because in the book the way she interviewed him was way better and smarter…. Idk I’m still not done the last book so Igtg read now but it’s rlly annoying:(
yes it was annoying that they missed his interview, especially bc his interview is so early on it really helps the reader understand more about the case (bc tbh to ppl who haven't read the book its probably very confusing). But the good news is that holly jackson confirmed he'll be in a s2 if they make it! they probably didn't cast him in s1 bc he is such a big character in s2 they most likely wanted to wait until they got a renewal so that it would help them get a more "high profile" actor after the show went popular.
Yess I was so mad that they made andie way more of a sweetheart when andie is not in real life. Andie's best friend called her flawless and said that her only flaw was that she dated a lot of guys which isn't true because in the book they said that andie isn't perfect and she was a bully to her own friends sometimes and that honestly added so much depth to andie's character that this innocent angel isn't at all innocent or an angel. And the monster sal singh is innocent. Ugh it's so frustrating
Okay, so a lot of thoughts. ● Ravi and Pip had more of a sibling energy than chemistry. ● The entire show was just two kids playing detective and everyone just telling us how smart Pip is without anything to show for it. ● The whole true crime podcast vibe that set the books apart for me in tne first place and was the essence of the series was missing. ● Even though the actors looked the part, they felt like completely different characters from those in the books. ● The relationships were so superficial. How Pip looked upto Sal like a brother. How Cara's dad was like a father figure to Pip. How close Pip was to Barney. None of it was done justice to in the show and so any reveals regarding them hardly made any emotional impact. ● Ravi just ditching Pip towards the end felt so out of character. ● The whole drama with Pip's dad was so unnecessary and irrelevant to the plot. It was frustrating to sit through this show to say the least.
@@hotmintchoco It really did. Ravi is one of the best book boyfriends for me and his chemistry with Pip in the books is so good. The show missed the whole point of them.
Fr i thought sals brother and her didnt have chemistry bc they were really far apart on age? Or maybe she just looks really young and he looks like he graduated hs already
US viewer, finished it before this video dropped and it took me until this video to be like "....Yeah, wasn't that great. Not absolutely horrible, but not that great either."
I’m so curious how they even could do a second season without Stanley Forbes. But I really felt like they set up the third book throughout the season rather than the second.
One of my biggest gripes was the lack of dimensioning the killers. Like the whole point of the last book is that pip is going after a black and white case becuase she is tired of solving cases where the person behind was actually good or even slightly in the right. They made (spoilers) Elliot seem like a psychopath and they didn’t make him fully confess. He barely seemed remorseful. Same with Becca. At the end, she isn’t even sorry for pip. She was GOING TO GO THROUGH WITH KILLING PIP. Pip literally becomes friends with Becca in the books because she knows she could have killed her but ended up not doing it. They even made Andie seem like such a good girl. We are supposed to wait until the last book to find out that Andie was valid in what she was doing. It completely messed up the character dynamics and made it all fall flat. And about Emma, she said how she studied those books like her life depended on it. She was very involved with Holly to make sure she did Pip justice. I think that she was just given horrible direction. I think that this show had so much potential but they just didn’t allow Holly to get enough creative control, which she has said. I just hope they get another season and see the backlash and allow Holly to take more control. Rant over.
@@Auraa10 EXACTLY. That is why book three made the series. I shows you that Andie wasn’t as bad as she seemed. At the end of book one, when pip is at the press conference, she says how Andie was not a good person. But then we get to see how deep her character went. And not to mention, they show you how Andie wanted money to escape her father when that was the whole mystery for AGAD. Like when you read Andies email, she says she needs money to escape someone but she never specified who. They completely revealed who the DT killer is before you even know about him😭
@@tino32vI'm confused as to how they plan to market a book 3 adaptation if it ever comes because the whole idea of As Good as Dead is centered around things coming full circle with Andie, Jason, Max, Becca, and all of the other characters who have been roped in since the beginning. If Andie's (and also Jason's by effect) story has been finished for the most part, the appeal for all of those readers who know the value of that twist will have disappeared and people won't come back to watch it.
No! That annoyed me too, as did the way they handled it. We saw a little bit of them looking for them and then boom we see his body. It wasn’t nearly as emotional as Pip was in the book. But also, they took out the “destroy the evidence and I’ll give him back”
Also, I didn't feel any suspense, fear, or build-up in any of the scenes. Everything was shot in broad daylight, people gave away clues so easily, there was no risk...
My biggest problem was with Andi’s character. In the first book they make a big deal about how Andi wasn’t the victim and no matter what others did, she was a main cause of her own death. Obviously this is all flipped on its head in the last book(won’t go into detail for book 3 spoilers), but in the show, they completely miss all possible nuance of her character. Her only flaw is that she sells drugs and slept with Elliot. She was a perfect friend and nearly perfect girlfriend and all these bad things just happened to happen to her. They make an attempt at depth with Becca’s monologue in e6, where her and Pip talk about how Andi caused it cause she sold drugs to Max, but it really doesn’t land as it is immediately followed up by the climax of the episode which takes all of your attention. there’s way more i could rant about and i might edit this comment to do just that.
I agree they didn't do her well...... but you also didn't understand the book. The point wasn't that Andi wasn't a victim- it was that she wasn't the 'perfect' victim, and then book 3 shows up the other side of her/her own thoughts.
They made pip seem like she needed the obvious to be pointed out by everyone and every scene was changed DRASTICALLY. My mom told me to shut up half way into the series cause i kept saying all the differences. Emma myers is a great actress but i feel like that role was not meant for her. There were so many important scenes missing and the scenes were so different to the actual description. The calamity party was not in an underground tunnel, it was in a normal house with a pool. I’m so mad they didn’t do better with the show. They also repeated the scene with andie and sal like 200 times before it even hit the 3rd episode. The show was a 4/10 for me
Can we also address the small slip up mistake they made with the ravi and sal photograph which was at the singhs house 😭😭😭😭 why does ravi look the same over the 5 years
I think that bad direction and writing were the root of most of the shows problems along with that same old issue of changing one element of the plot and them realising “oh dear now this bit doesn’t make sense either! Maybe we should just rewrite the whole thing??” Which is the failing of so many sequel adaptations but I’ve never seen it hit a first season so hard. Also the actual reason i stopped watching was because pip’s social skills were atrocious in the show and they made her out to be really uncaring and even mean at some points when really she does everything because she cares so much! They completely mischaracterised her imo.
didnt read the book and enjoyed the show but everytime ravi showed up it put me off because something about his acting is so stilted and limited, his brother sal was way more compelling
bro they literally changed characters roles in the show and CUT OUT VERY IMPORTANT CHARACTERS FOR THE NEXT BOOKS, like where the flying fish sticks is Stanley Forbes, how are they gonna make a season two, I'm literally dreading this
It’s pips accent I can’t get past it downloaded it to watch on the flight to Florida and I couldn’t get past the first 20 mins, I chose to nap over watching it 😂
I thought it was only me feel the action of emma was missing something. She did not pass the vibe pip have in the books. And she also has no chemistry with ravi actor. I was watching ep 4 and was like "im not rotting for them as i should" and them i realise i was forcing myself into it
never read the book, but what really made me pause and think that readers won't like it is the drug den scene. there was something so cringey about it, and there was no chemistry between ravi and pip. i'm so sorry for y'all who wanted this adaptation. overall to me it was fine, but I won't be rewatching or remembering it years down the line.
My biggest criticism was the ending, if they are trying to trick us with catching Cara’s dad as the killer, it doesn’t work when we still have a whole episode to go, it’s obvious there’s gonna be a twist ending
OMG SCREAM IT GIRL! I love the book because the plot twist, the characters EVERYTHING was well done. It was really disappointment to see it, it was lacking emotion, the plot twist at the end that is THE plot twist in the book was so FLATTT! I was so mad when I finished it. I think also 6 episodes is too short, they needed more time to explain more things.
The og Pip was much more tactful and sophisticated even when she was still building her confidence early on. She filled out a FOIA request for Sal’s interrogation early in the investigation. The show’s portrayal made her much more scattered and sloppy investigation wise. It took a throughly developed set of characters in the books and made them all feel flat, especially Ravi.
I did reread book one in anticipation of this two weeks before it came out in the US. I’m so disappointed. I love Pip and I like Emma Myers so the bar was high for me. The opening scene made me so mad. They gave away something huge Pip didn’t find out until the very end!! Where was Pip’s research? She did so much research in the book and here it’s like she barely does any. Where is Jason Bell as suspect number one?! Changing the calamity parties from being in a house to being in a cave or whatever it was seriously ruins parts of book two. The party being in a house was a major part of GGBB. And the storyline with Victor is so pointless. There was no need to change Pip’s family dynamic. I’m trying to push through and finish the series, but I don’t know if I can. I really wanted them to adapt all three books. Imagine AGAD in live action!! But I now I hope this is a one and done.
I like the casting and everything but OVERALL I feel like they changed a lot of things and excluded a lot of arches that I considered important. Like, where is Stanley? And why are Andie and Nat da Silva suddenly friends? Also they changed pip’s personality which I don’t personally enjoy
I need British and American tv writers to go to some sort of boot camp in the Nordic countries. Shows like Young Royals and the OG Skam are just running circles around them and making well-written, well-cast, well-acted, well-directed YA shows! It IS possible!
Tbh I really did like the show. I feel like it added a new storyline a bit. I was upset it didn’t include a few parts of the book but you can’t force everything into a show. Not only that if it was exactly like the book we would know every thing that would happen. I feel like the show gives people who never read the book a new pov. And I liked how young pip acted in the show because she is just a child going through this scary journey.
I did like it too. Though I hated that they changed Nat’s story (mentioned andie possible leaking her nudes once and didn’t follow up on it), disregarded Stanley, and made Howie a background character
I'm American and I've seen Wednesday but I didnt realize it was the same actress since she sounded so English to me lol. I did think her accent was different than the others but I really thought she was a proper Brit 😅
Daisy jones and the six is the only adaptation that I would say is done well like I was hooked from the first episode. I was so excited for AGGGTM but it sucked just watched 20 mins of the first episode and the accent is so bad I just couldn’t do it 😂🙃
It was so disappointing. Ravi and pip had no chemistry. Pip just didn't feel like the book character and I was so bored. And they could have easily done mixed media in the show. Without it it wasn't the same.
I started watching the series with my mom yesterday, I recommended the series because I read the book. As we were watching I was very confused because I couldn’t remember if this happened in the book or what the hell is going on😂 love your video on the series, made me feel like I was not crazy
I haven't watched the show yet, but I was surprised when you mentioned Emma Myers. I do LOVE her as Enid, so it's probably a combo of directing, writing, editing, and even casting.
Have watched the first two episodes. The main problem is Pip. She has absolutely no charisma. She's not a popular girl but she is charming enough that people will speak to her. Not in the show!!!
I was crying my eyes out while reading the book where Barney died. But in the series, it wasn't that emotional. And Pip's emotion for him seemed bland.(it just my opinion)
Absolutely HATED the addition of the subplot with Pippa finding her stepdad’s name in the hotel log. It did NOTHING for the overall story. It honestly just made her come across as really childish and petty. They completely changed her character. She never came across as being so clunky and naive in the book. I was so disappointed, because the book literally gives you EVERYTHING you need. Literally boo’d at the tv when it ended.
I was so hyped and a friend ask how was the viewing going and i was like, its bad 😭😭. Everything felt so wrong and awful and pip was characterised so odly?? Im so sad abt it
It’s such a shame because I don’t mind Emma as an actress and while I’m not necessarily against Americans being cast as Brits and vice versa, I think they probably should’ve stuck with a British actress in this case. It makes me feel like they casted her just to capitalise on the success of her role in Wednesday (which she was great in, but that was _such_ a different character)
So I just finished watching this as a non book reader, and my biggest gripe is that Pip didn't feel like a good detective. I don't really feel like she was piecing together the mystery effectively. The only comparison I can make here is The Batman, where I felt like Batman was really piecing together what The Riddler was doing in that movie. Also, Emma Myers really wasn't cutting it here, and I hate saying that too. Though, I think this is because this is her 2nd big role ever. She was so much better in Wednesday.
I thought the show confused a good girl and a goody two shoes. Anna Maxwell Martin was in Line of Duty, Motherland and The Bletchley Circle. Plus a million other things. Btw, did you see we’re getting a new Thursday Murder Club book next year.
I am not alone! I was so excited for this, checking for a release date almost obsessively and I have been so disappointed. I understand the need to make things more visual for an adaptation. We can't have Pip sitting on her computer very much. But the way they went about it turned Pip into a passive character who is just a witness to people just wanting to share info with her out of the kindness of their heart. It robs her of her most important trait. Pip is smart, she is cunning. Naomi doesn't tell her to borrow her computer to lead her to the picture. Pip tricks her into it. Passive Pip isn't interesting. They also just erased Andy out of her own story. I guess they were afraid to show Andy as she was in all her imperfections. But if that is the case, they should not go near book 3 because if they can't handle showing a woman acting in ways that are not so nice to survive, they cannot handle the Pip of As Good as Dead.
I enjoyed the show but it was nowhere close to the book. Like it was OK and was a decent way to spend some time but I probably won't rewatch. I think I'll watch s2 if we get it. The older actors were so good, although I didn't like that they added the storyline with Pips dad bc they're so close in the books. I liked Mathew Baynton but did find him hard to take seriously sometimes lol. I felt like Pip didn't have to work for anything so there wasn't that much tension or intrigue. Like people just told her stuff and that was that. People told her to stop digging but she didn't dig; the fossil was on the surface. Imo there were too many characters. Connor and Zach were so irrelevant. I knew nothing about them. And Connor is going to be important for S2 surely (as well as a notably absent journalist?). It was too long and too short at once to do what it wanted.
I agree with all of this ! Pip didn't seem as smart as what she is like in the book. It didn't really feel like a proper investigation. And where was Stanley Forbes ?? Like he is so important in book 2.
they should have done it like it's a real story and it's a documentary. almost like they do with true crime based stories or like daisy jones but more so. like you know how in a documentary they would like go to for example a museum and look at an old newspaper and over it talk with a person who works at the museum about this piece that they are looking at and why it's important for this thing the documentary is about. and then there is a voice over while the host is walking somewhere about what their next step is and why. like that's what they should have attempted to do in a way. like a complete documentary-esque style type a tv show. like an investigative documentary
Have you ever read the naturals by Jennifer Lynn Barnes it’s basically 5 teenagers are in the fbi as part of a secret program they also all have natural talents eg. lie detector or profiler but it a 4 book series and I absolutely love it I read it in a week
I think that the area they filmed in was beautiful, but I wish the town was more dark and gloomy. I always pictured the town with more of a heaviness over it, and with more of a darker atmosphere! (Although that was just *my* interpretation) And personally I feel like they didn’t do Andie’s character justice 😭 like there wasn’t much to her in the show 🤷🏻♀️
They forgot Stanley....I honestly don't know how they're going to make a second series of this, if it gets a green light to get made, without introducing him in this first series set. Love the trilogy (last one was omg!!) not fully loving the adaptation 🫤
Another thing I really don’t understand is in the show. Pip is all upset because she told Sal where Andy went, but it’s pretty reasonable to assume even if she wouldn’t have said anything he would have found her. He was following her and she just went into a classroom and he was behind her like 30 seconds so he probably would’ve looked in the classroom when he walked by to see if if she was in there, even if Pip didn’t say anything. It just seems like if that’s why she was really upset. It’s a weird reason because the show makes it out like he really easily could’ve just found her on his own and probably would have so I don’t understand why she would feel so guilty about that and I also don’t understand Reasoning for a lot of things like running after the person in the woods when they were camping that seems like a dumb thing to do or she knows if you were after her and making threats against her, but she still doing things on her own and getting her herself in the situation that very easily could get her Killed just like Andy like she thinks Max is guilty but she’s rooting around his room hunting stuff like that doesn’t make any sense. You think that the dad is guilty why are you going to get yourself locked into a house if you think he’s holding a girl hostage there why would you ever go there even if you did call the police he could kill you before the police get there, this man has a teacher salary. He’s paying for two different homes and just casually going there all the time to feed a kidnapped girl. He has locked in the attic that just seems so outlandish and wild that why would he do that?
Idk I feel like Ravi especially felt kind of off in the adaptation? And Ravi and Pip’s relationship really lost the chemistry it had in the book, like it’s been a while since I read it but I remember them being one of my favorite parts of the book, and Ravi being one of my fave characters like he felt really earnest and funny in the books, but in the show he just feels awkward and different ig??
I just finished the first episode and eek was not a fan. Idk whether to even continue lol. Also on another note, you should totally watch Daisy Jones. It is AMAZING
One thing I really don’t get is the friend group of Sal. It’s really made out like he’s this good guy who doesn’t like drugs ball blah blah, but he hangs out with people that go to these parties where they do drugs and drink, and even so far as to go to a New Year’s Eve party and get drunk or high and drive home and get a wreck. It seems like you would make more sense if these were friends because she like to do drugs and drink and what not where is Sal did not. It just seems that these people would be friends at all let alone best friends.
I like that Holly Jackson uses similar plot locations in her books, similar things for AGGGTM and her new book Rachel Price (great book! I can’t remember if you’ve read it yet or not!)
This is why we read the books. I hadn't seen Wednesday or even knew it was the same actress, but I quite liked the actress here, but like you I like the Pip of the book more, and she wasn't the same. I am glad you made this review as it is accurate, and it seemed very condensed or just sort of going through the main bits of the plot without developing any substance of investment for the audience to care about the characters. Loads of folk read the book anyway, so not sure there would be a large part of the audience who didn't know the story? I hope you will be able to do a review for the book James by Perceval Everett. x
Omg there definitely is!! And I would totally recommend you to start from the first book, you might already know the plot twists but you’ll have a much, much better experience reading the book. Also, the series keeps getting better and better and especially the third book!
I just got done watching the series, and to my surprise, I actually enjoyed it. Emma Myers is actually good for this roll and I was loving the twists and clues of this. While I see the flaws with this series, I enjoyed it
too many improbabilities. The biggest one being that Elliot supposedly sold his house a few years ago, but still owns it and visits it regularly. No explanation as to why he pretended to sell the house! And it's on a suburban street in a small town, but no-one notices ! This would only be possible in an anonymous big city or in the middle of nowhere.
Just finished the TV Show. Considering delving into the Book(s) next. As an American I didn't get hung up on Emma's Accent... Guess maybe having already watched her in Wednesday... I "accepted" that she was portraying a character and whatever "mistakes" or slips she made I forgave since (as an American) I suppose as long as I understood the character(s) without referring to Subtitles... It's good. Having grown up watching British TV (via PBS) and programs/movies/shows can be "all over the place" and I don't have a grounding with "how" someone in a particular location/time/setting "should" sound... I won't know there is a problem unless I really look for it... Classic Doctor Who (or Modern sometimes) had "American" characters and I "know" (or do now) the Actors were doing an imitation. Sometimes the writing "forced" them to speak "English" for the "Home" Audience (which would seem Odd to someone usually speaking "American English")... Oh well, planning to try the first Audiobook of the Series... See how good/bad the Narration(s) are.
I’ve never read the book, so I can’t judge about the adaptation part of it all, but I agree with everything you said about the show itself. I saw the first 3 episodes last night and I just saw the second half before coming to UA-cam. Yesterday I was intrigued, but it was late so I had to stop and go to bed. Then today I felt disappointed after maybe the 4th episode, I just think the writing gets poorer and poorer as it starts to unravel the “mystery.” Some things don’t even make sense, people seem to confess to easily and yes there were a lot of dragging, like Elliot could have run away before the police gets there, idk.
Thank you for this video…I just finished watching the show and thought to myself…ehhh I don’t see why the book is so popular in the bookworld…and the show almost made me remove this book from my TBR. Thanks to you I will keep it on my list and will get to it hopefully soon…❤❤❤❤
And also with what they did with becca and Andie’s relationship I mean they weren’t prefect sisters they were complicated so much like billy and max from stranger things were the elder one dies just to have a younger sibling to have their freedom which makes her bond more tragic that how becca never got know to that how much Andie cared for her and wanted to protect her
I never heard of or read the books, so I started watching the show kind of blindly. The premise was very intriguing, but as the show went on, I just had this feeling that many things were unresolved, that the main character was getting spoon-fed all this information from people (why were they willing to answer her questions?), and the final "twists" were, in theory, shocking, but they just somehow fell flat. I just felt like the execution was poor. You hit the nail on the head that Pip, the main character, was...boring and kind of 1-dimensional. Not to mention the amount of stupid, easily avoidable decisions she made started to piss me off. I kept telling my boyfriend that for someone so smart, she is so stupid. I am a little shocked though, at the number of people saying Pip and Ravi had no chemistry. I felt like it was actually the opposite! Hearing you talk about how much better the books are made me want to go out and buy them now.
Omg I didn’t realise she was American because the show felt so British otherwise, it didn’t cross my mind they’d cast foreigners. Every time I paused the show and played, her accent would stick out to me and I thought oof that’s weird she sounds like she’s doing a fake accent. I feel like Brits and Irish sometimes accidentally sound American when they act so just assumed it was that going on.
The accent was atrocious. I watched the whole thing, as it was so car crash I couldn’t stop. It very much aimed at a younger generations, that was my take away. It was a poor adaptation.
I haven't read the book(s) and I don't intend to, but I thought I'd share my opinion. The first thing I've noticed and disliked are the movie style and editing. I've noticed that at the beginning, they had a lot of camera shots that felt like they were trying to mimic Wes Anderson's style (which looked weird with the screen ratio), but then It'd change to more casual, BBC-style camera shots, and they abandoned that completely after, like, 3 episodes. Some cuts were weirdly done, and I hate that they included that hallway scene for what feels like a hundred times. Straying away from technical stuff, for me, there was no chemistry whatsoever between Pippa and Ravi. I tried to feel something, sympathy, when they were together on screen, but I literally couldn't care less about them. I also didn't like how the main character made dumb decisions constantly, e.g. going with the sister to the cave. She also wasn't clever in her interviews at all and I'm really surprised that any of the characters told her anything, with how she would ask questions. Were we, as viewers, supposed to know how much time had passed? I genuinely can't tell if it's been a week, month or longer. And lastly, I don't know whether it was included in the book or not, but why wasn't the aftermath shown? Like, no worry from the parents whatsoever - excuse me?? your daughter was kidnapped, drugged and almost died. The lack of emotional scenes was bad.
First-time viewer here. Full disclosure: I listened to the American Audiobook, so it was all from the perspective of America. I am unsure of the changes and how much they influence the story. That being said, I've only seen one episode. Pipp in the show (Accent aside) doesn't feel as cunning or likable. The pacing in the show is way off, nothing like the slower build of the book. And everyone seems too damn suspicious. And the book never seemed like satire. This feels like a cheesy teen show from a discount TV channel. It's also very visually unappealing. It wasn't all bad, but it was definitely a big letdown. Loved the video!
I havent read the books. I must say there were SO MANY EASYY situatons and reveals in the show. not the most intrigguing for sure! *The investigation itself was meh.* the ack of mystery and just basic information sources. The plot for the investigation really feel easy and forced at EVERY SINGLE POINT. For the most part in the first half i *struggled to understand her motivations*, showing 1 scene 10 times sis not cut out for me. The viewers dont really know important aspects of Sal being a good guy, his relationship with pip and Andie , Andies dad being horrible? like just saying 'controlling' doesnt cut out, Andy being a bully and a complicated person (got to know about this from another video), and Ravi's bond with his brother and so many more dynamics. Some flashback scenes would have def helped coz the depth of why the case is uncovered, what are the motivations of the characters, of us, etc does, like why was pip the only one who cared, and y did she? for a SCHOOL PROJECT, AFTER 5 YEARS? I donot think that Victors plot was unnecessary, and i liked that in the storyline. It was actually important to show that she grew vary of everyone around her as the case proceeded. it showed her mental state, and how untrustworthy she grew as a person, constantly thinking about who is really a good person, etc.. and ofc not every clue would become a lead, some have to be a miss. Also IDK if Ravi was a great help and a real team partner at all. he was just a cute boy kinda there, pippa basically solves it solo in my opinion. Dont get me wrong I LOVED HIM. INDIAN CUTIE YAY. but wish he had more of a role and character. all i know is he stays home alot ashamed to face the world, cant leave the village coz parent, but then after the allegations of his brother are solved FEELS STUCK THERE? heck idk what he was doing on the day of the murder 5 yrs ago, did he live together with his fam?. One other huge weird thing i felt was- after the Sal's innocence was proved and shown that he was actually murdered, he basically pushes pippa aside, tells her he is done and she should fuck off and he is not interested in helping???? its like his character changed completey. It was really offputting. And then suddenly he sees a marshmallow and goes back? Like dude what if he didnt have that fkn marshmallow in the bag and he Pippa actually died? Honestly if it actually happened i would be more hooked. coz the S2 plot could be ravi looking for pippa, he is having hard time facing the guilt for leaving her (partly understanding pippa here) and is geninuely concerend and realises he loved her. That would have been magnetic. Pipa could be kidnapped, struggling, dead, idk. I Did like Emma tho, i guess because i am not British i didnt catch her bad accent. also for the record i enjoyed watching her way more than jenna ortega on wednesday! I dont mind a S2 BUT THEY REALLY NEED TO WORK ON THE SHOW. Ig this was a rant-
This show is probably one of the worst shows I watched. It has it all- bad acting, lazy writing, bland characters. The only thing that is good is the location or the town they shot it in.
I never read the book but was excited for the show because the trailers made it seem compelling. But the entire time I was watching I kept saying, “wow she’s really bad at this! Wow she is not very smart! Wow that is a really bad decision!” and I wondered if the book was as frustrating to read. 😅 I did enjoy the show well enough. But it sounds like the book is much better!
I watched 3 episodes, and i thought maybe I was just too old for this show. It was borderline satire silly for me. When the guy was staring at pip when driving the car with the blonde girl, I burst out laughing by how ridiculous that shot looked. Also, the pacing was jarring. I was like damn ravi was convinced QUICK. Idk Cara is probably my favorite character 👀Personally, I grew up with Veronica Mars and i thought this was going to be similar. 👀it was not. granted i never read the books so take my opinion with a grain of salt.
Also I feel like the book made it feel like a mystery. The show just makes it seem like the police just didn’t ask enough questions
I haven't read the book yet but still I felt the same.
Yup that was definitely an issue I had.
@@nabeelmirza6060you should definitely read the book if you get the chance!!
The accent killed me and I was really upset they removed the scene where Pippa and Ravi are following Sal’s last footsteps. 😢
I was sad about that to :(
I fixed the accent by watching it with the Norwegian dub lol
YES AND THE PIP DESTROYING ALL THE EVIDENCE
they removed the best scenes and lostso many oppertunities including this one ;(
That was messed up
Things that upsetted me (I'm picky so beware lol) :
•None of the characters were how I physically pictured them
•Pips accent
•Ravi's having no personality
• No chemistry between them
• Pip being nowhere near as clever as she was in the book
• It was all super rushed
•Nat being friends with Andie
•No Stanley
• Unnecessarily putting Pip's stepdad as a suspect
• The whole Isla knowing she's not Andie thing
• Becca being completely psychotic instead of just scared and a little crazy
• The fact that Pip WENT WITH HER to go see Andie's body like she is sm smarter in the book
• Barely any Howie Bowers
• Naomi not feeling nearly as bad she did in the book about what happened
• The fact that they didn't go back and retrace Sal's steps when that was one of the best parts of the book
• How terrible the interviews were
100% agree
Wow couldnt agree more. U just said everything so spot on!
you get me same with the location
yes the location is pretty! but i pictured the town more janky, its not meant to be pretty its a small town with murders, and the town is so pretty, it messes with the cinimatic vibe of film, the book was more angsty and the film didnt have that same vibe
Ravi was great he was just sheltered as he should be
@coco-cv3ne if u read the book, he was so charismatic and funny, all the time. Pip and Ravi were also friends before they got together, a team. This wasn't the case in the show
was waiting for this video, I literally couldn't finish this show. I get some changes have to be made in adaptations, but some of the changes they made were just so nonsensical. Pip's character felt complerely different, and the way she found out most of her information made her seem frankly no where near as intelligent as she is in the book. she is literally spoonfed everything she finds out, she stumbles into everything instead of piecing it together. I couldn't get over how she literally immediately fucks up every single interview by pissing people off into not talking to her, in the book she gets a lot out of the interviews bc she's clever about how she asks things!
My thoughts exactly !!! She felt like a completely different character
I've not read it yet. But now I'm curious 🤔
All the discoveries were so ridiculously groundless. Despite fucking her interviews up and pissing people off, THEY STILL GIVE HER ANSWERS FOR ABSOLUTELY NO FUCKING REASON!?!?!?!
Thiiis!! I loved Pip in the books but her in the series was SO ANNOYING. She seems so dumb just like you pointed out :D
I haven't read the book but I think those flaws were put in so Pip doesn't feel like a Mary Sue. I have my issues with people randomly throwing that phrase around but I think that's what they were trying to avoid.
Pip feels so dumb in the series, even the finale like omg. In the book she uses her brain to make logical connections and unravel truths that people don’t want to tell her. In the series it’s just SO ANNOYINGLY EASY!
Also! When Ravi pushes her with the muffins???? I was like OMG WHO ARE YOU, WHAT DID YOU DO WITH RAVI?
If I hadn’t read the book I wouldn’t have understood a thing about episode 1, because the information was so weirdly put out. Episode one and we were ALREADY interviewing f*ing Max Hastings, but still had no context of Andy’s family, life, personality, Sal’s personality, the case and ambient at school… just terrible
Agree and I feel like a big part of it is this stupid 6 episode structure thing. I feel like they had to have her figure things out super fast so that they could squeeze everything in. The same thing happens in the Percy Jackson show when instead of naive kids who consistently walk into traps throughout their quest like they are in the books, they notice what’s going on right away, defeat the monster, and then move on. it’s so frustrating! Like why do shows insist on doing these short little seasons?
So many things were wrong 😭
My biggest issue:
WHERE ON EARTH WAS STANLEY, HOW ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO CONTINUE WITHOUT HIM
They changed sooooo many scenes. Like the role of Howie the drug dealer wasn’t at all how it was in the book. Nat was so much more involved in the book than in the show. Andie wasn’t portrayed as a more so “bad” person like she was in the first book. And I totally agree with the lack of mystery 😤
SAME I WAS WAITING FOR HIM AND WAS SO SAD HE WASNT THERE
NO FR HES A GREAT CHARACTER N HES ESSENTIAL TO IT 🙄
Ikkk WHERE THE HECK WAS STANLEYYYY! Also like ofc it makes scense to change some stuff when making a book a show but removing a character that you NEED for the next book/season is just not it:(. Also I was annoyed about Howie bowers because in the book the way she interviewed him was way better and smarter…. Idk I’m still not done the last book so Igtg read now but it’s rlly annoying:(
yes it was annoying that they missed his interview, especially bc his interview is so early on it really helps the reader understand more about the case (bc tbh to ppl who haven't read the book its probably very confusing). But the good news is that holly jackson confirmed he'll be in a s2 if they make it! they probably didn't cast him in s1 bc he is such a big character in s2 they most likely wanted to wait until they got a renewal so that it would help them get a more "high profile" actor after the show went popular.
Yess I was so mad that they made andie way more of a sweetheart when andie is not in real life. Andie's best friend called her flawless and said that her only flaw was that she dated a lot of guys which isn't true because in the book they said that andie isn't perfect and she was a bully to her own friends sometimes and that honestly added so much depth to andie's character that this innocent angel isn't at all innocent or an angel. And the monster sal singh is innocent. Ugh it's so frustrating
Okay, so a lot of thoughts.
● Ravi and Pip had more of a sibling energy than chemistry.
● The entire show was just two kids playing detective and everyone just telling us how smart Pip is without anything to show for it.
● The whole true crime podcast vibe that set the books apart for me in tne first place and was the essence of the series was missing.
● Even though the actors looked the part, they felt like completely different characters from those in the books.
● The relationships were so superficial. How Pip looked upto Sal like a brother. How Cara's dad was like a father figure to Pip. How close Pip was to Barney. None of it was done justice to in the show and so any reveals regarding them hardly made any emotional impact.
● Ravi just ditching Pip towards the end felt so out of character.
● The whole drama with Pip's dad was so unnecessary and irrelevant to the plot.
It was frustrating to sit through this show to say the least.
the finale kiss felt very forced tbh
@@hotmintchoco It really did. Ravi is one of the best book boyfriends for me and his chemistry with Pip in the books is so good. The show missed the whole point of them.
IM SO MAD ABOUT PIP AND RAVI HAVING NO CHEMISTRY
they have more chemistry off stage if that makes sense they get along more when there not filming (zain and Emma)
They had mad chemistry.. you just didn't like a brown guy kissing a white girl
there was def chemistry I loved them
I feel like Pip and Max had more chemistry than Pip and Ravi😂
@@Sassie-Sassiemax was a creep and a r*pist?? Not sure what chemistry looks like you..
Omg I agree! When they weren’t focused on the murder I was skipping through the scenes 😭
a like to the seventeen in the profile💎 and i skipped too😅
I hated the wardrobe and there was so zero chemistry. I wonder if it’s because I thought pip looked around 12. She felt miscast
Same for the wardrobe
Agreed. It's a miscast for sure.
Fr i thought sals brother and her didnt have chemistry bc they were really far apart on age? Or maybe she just looks really young and he looks like he graduated hs already
Her clothes were VILE. Shoulder vests and shorts were murder.
Did we ever get to see that one “Talk nerdy to me” shirt when she met up with Ravi?
I was honestly mad they changed Nat’s character. They took away her ark and now they won’t be able to make her hate pip in the feature.
US viewer, finished it before this video dropped and it took me until this video to be like "....Yeah, wasn't that great. Not absolutely horrible, but not that great either."
exactly! i almost wished it was worse because i’d rather watch an entertaining 0/10 than a boring 6/10
I’m so curious how they even could do a second season without Stanley Forbes. But I really felt like they set up the third book throughout the season rather than the second.
EXACTLY I was questioning if they were trying to mix both the first and second book in the first season
as an american, I actually had no idea that emma wasn't british lol
Ikrrr me too!
One of my biggest gripes was the lack of dimensioning the killers. Like the whole point of the last book is that pip is going after a black and white case becuase she is tired of solving cases where the person behind was actually good or even slightly in the right. They made (spoilers) Elliot seem like a psychopath and they didn’t make him fully confess. He barely seemed remorseful. Same with Becca. At the end, she isn’t even sorry for pip. She was GOING TO GO THROUGH WITH KILLING PIP. Pip literally becomes friends with Becca in the books because she knows she could have killed her but ended up not doing it. They even made Andie seem like such a good girl. We are supposed to wait until the last book to find out that Andie was valid in what she was doing. It completely messed up the character dynamics and made it all fall flat. And about Emma, she said how she studied those books like her life depended on it. She was very involved with Holly to make sure she did Pip justice. I think that she was just given horrible direction. I think that this show had so much potential but they just didn’t allow Holly to get enough creative control, which she has said. I just hope they get another season and see the backlash and allow Holly to take more control. Rant over.
Omg I agree with everything you just said. It made me mad how it seemed like they were crushing book 3 andie into a season about book 1
@@Auraa10 EXACTLY. That is why book three made the series. I shows you that Andie wasn’t as bad as she seemed. At the end of book one, when pip is at the press conference, she says how Andie was not a good person. But then we get to see how deep her character went. And not to mention, they show you how Andie wanted money to escape her father when that was the whole mystery for AGAD. Like when you read Andies email, she says she needs money to escape someone but she never specified who. They completely revealed who the DT killer is before you even know about him😭
@@tino32vI'm confused as to how they plan to market a book 3 adaptation if it ever comes because the whole idea of As Good as Dead is centered around things coming full circle with Andie, Jason, Max, Becca, and all of the other characters who have been roped in since the beginning. If Andie's (and also Jason's by effect) story has been finished for the most part, the appeal for all of those readers who know the value of that twist will have disappeared and people won't come back to watch it.
I agreeeeeee!!!!
- the accent was SO BAD
- where was the podcast element to it?
Tbf she was good in Wednesday!
The podcast element is in the second book Good Girl, Bad Blood
@@Kittyzero13426 oh yeah I know, but I meant more mixed media as well * podcast was just the thing that came out haha
4:14 YES! I always imagined Pip as a brave stubborn (in a good way) smart girl, but in the show she seemed too ‘sensitive’ to deal with the case ..
SPOILER:
am I the only one really mad at barney not being a golden retwiever and the way he died completely different ?
No! That annoyed me too, as did the way they handled it. We saw a little bit of them looking for them and then boom we see his body. It wasn’t nearly as emotional as Pip was in the book. But also, they took out the “destroy the evidence and I’ll give him back”
@@Kristianalexis1 yeah exactly ! I missed that part too
yes
I put the show on while i was assembling a jigsaw puzzle. Let’s just say the puzzle got like 80% of my attention)))
GIRL, SAME! Watched it on double screen mode while literally solving puzzels at the app named "Jigsaw Puzzels."
😂😂You roasted it too well
And Barney was a golden retriever 😭
Also, I didn't feel any suspense, fear, or build-up in any of the scenes. Everything was shot in broad daylight, people gave away clues so easily, there was no risk...
Yes! I felt like I was watching “Heartstopper” or something. This is a murder mystery so why isn’t it more sinister?
My biggest problem was with Andi’s character. In the first book they make a big deal about how Andi wasn’t the victim and no matter what others did, she was a main cause of her own death. Obviously this is all flipped on its head in the last book(won’t go into detail for book 3 spoilers), but in the show, they completely miss all possible nuance of her character. Her only flaw is that she sells drugs and slept with Elliot. She was a perfect friend and nearly perfect girlfriend and all these bad things just happened to happen to her. They make an attempt at depth with Becca’s monologue in e6, where her and Pip talk about how Andi caused it cause she sold drugs to Max, but it really doesn’t land as it is immediately followed up by the climax of the episode which takes all of your attention. there’s way more i could rant about and i might edit this comment to do just that.
I agree they didn't do her well...... but you also didn't understand the book. The point wasn't that Andi wasn't a victim- it was that she wasn't the 'perfect' victim, and then book 3 shows up the other side of her/her own thoughts.
They made pip seem like she needed the obvious to be pointed out by everyone and every scene was changed DRASTICALLY. My mom told me to shut up half way into the series cause i kept saying all the differences. Emma myers is a great actress but i feel like that role was not meant for her. There were so many important scenes missing and the scenes were so different to the actual description. The calamity party was not in an underground tunnel, it was in a normal house with a pool. I’m so mad they didn’t do better with the show. They also repeated the scene with andie and sal like 200 times before it even hit the 3rd episode. The show was a 4/10 for me
Same here. My mum was so annoyed with me😂😂
Can we also address the small slip up mistake they made with the ravi and sal photograph which was at the singhs house 😭😭😭😭 why does ravi look the same over the 5 years
yeah fr
Yesss i noticed it too
I think that bad direction and writing were the root of most of the shows problems along with that same old issue of changing one element of the plot and them realising “oh dear now this bit doesn’t make sense either! Maybe we should just rewrite the whole thing??” Which is the failing of so many sequel adaptations but I’ve never seen it hit a first season so hard. Also the actual reason i stopped watching was because pip’s social skills were atrocious in the show and they made her out to be really uncaring and even mean at some points when really she does everything because she cares so much! They completely mischaracterised her imo.
didnt read the book and enjoyed the show but everytime ravi showed up it put me off because something about his acting is so stilted and limited, his brother sal was way more compelling
i thought the exact same thing! no emotions in his eyes at all. i didn't like his acting very much
bro they literally changed characters roles in the show and CUT OUT VERY IMPORTANT CHARACTERS FOR THE NEXT BOOKS, like where the flying fish sticks is Stanley Forbes, how are they gonna make a season two, I'm literally dreading this
i bailed after the first episode!😬pip's acting felt really young/forced and i found it all a bit cringe sadly
It’s pips accent I can’t get past it downloaded it to watch on the flight to Florida and I couldn’t get past the first 20 mins, I chose to nap over watching it 😂
I thought it was only me feel the action of emma was missing something. She did not pass the vibe pip have in the books. And she also has no chemistry with ravi actor. I was watching ep 4 and was like "im not rotting for them as i should" and them i realise i was forcing myself into it
I had to stop several times and that makes me really sad because i was so excited for the show
never read the book, but what really made me pause and think that readers won't like it is the drug den scene. there was something so cringey about it, and there was no chemistry between ravi and pip. i'm so sorry for y'all who wanted this adaptation.
overall to me it was fine, but I won't be rewatching or remembering it years down the line.
I totally agree that she looked like she was going to throw up or cry the whole time and it was kinda weird and distracting..lol:)
My biggest criticism was the ending, if they are trying to trick us with catching Cara’s dad as the killer, it doesn’t work when we still have a whole episode to go, it’s obvious there’s gonna be a twist ending
i was very disappointed with the show. the mystery aspect of the plot felt unimportant (even tho that’s what the whole show is abt)
OMG SCREAM IT GIRL! I love the book because the plot twist, the characters EVERYTHING was well done. It was really disappointment to see it, it was lacking emotion, the plot twist at the end that is THE plot twist in the book was so FLATTT! I was so mad when I finished it. I think also 6 episodes is too short, they needed more time to explain more things.
The og Pip was much more tactful and sophisticated even when she was still building her confidence early on. She filled out a FOIA request for Sal’s interrogation early in the investigation. The show’s portrayal made her much more scattered and sloppy investigation wise. It took a throughly developed set of characters in the books and made them all feel flat, especially Ravi.
I did reread book one in anticipation of this two weeks before it came out in the US. I’m so disappointed. I love Pip and I like Emma Myers so the bar was high for me.
The opening scene made me so mad. They gave away something huge Pip didn’t find out until the very end!! Where was Pip’s research? She did so much research in the book and here it’s like she barely does any. Where is Jason Bell as suspect number one?! Changing the calamity parties from being in a house to being in a cave or whatever it was seriously ruins parts of book two. The party being in a house was a major part of GGBB. And the storyline with Victor is so pointless. There was no need to change Pip’s family dynamic.
I’m trying to push through and finish the series, but I don’t know if I can. I really wanted them to adapt all three books. Imagine AGAD in live action!! But I now I hope this is a one and done.
I ended up watching the series hating it then rereading the book series
I like the casting and everything but OVERALL I feel like they changed a lot of things and excluded a lot of arches that I considered important. Like, where is Stanley? And why are Andie and Nat da Silva suddenly friends? Also they changed pip’s personality which I don’t personally enjoy
I need British and American tv writers to go to some sort of boot camp in the Nordic countries. Shows like Young Royals and the OG Skam are just running circles around them and making well-written, well-cast, well-acted, well-directed YA shows! It IS possible!
i loved skam so much
THANK YOUUUUUUUUU i’m so happy i’m not the only one
Tbh I really did like the show. I feel like it added a new storyline a bit. I was upset it didn’t include a few parts of the book but you can’t force everything into a show. Not only that if it was exactly like the book we would know every thing that would happen. I feel like the show gives people who never read the book a new pov. And I liked how young pip acted in the show because she is just a child going through this scary journey.
But I could understand everyone’s frustration :(, there should’ve been more to it but we gotta understand budgets and the writers part.
I did like it too. Though I hated that they changed Nat’s story (mentioned andie possible leaking her nudes once and didn’t follow up on it), disregarded Stanley, and made Howie a background character
@@I_love_bas3ballyeah I agree with that. I was really looking up to Nats story
I'm American and I've seen Wednesday but I didnt realize it was the same actress since she sounded so English to me lol. I did think her accent was different than the others but I really thought she was a proper Brit 😅
Daisy jones and the six is the only adaptation that I would say is done well like I was hooked from the first episode. I was so excited for AGGGTM but it sucked just watched 20 mins of the first episode and the accent is so bad I just couldn’t do it 😂🙃
It was so disappointing. Ravi and pip had no chemistry. Pip just didn't feel like the book character and I was so bored. And they could have easily done mixed media in the show. Without it it wasn't the same.
I started watching the series with my mom yesterday, I recommended the series because I read the book. As we were watching I was very confused because I couldn’t remember if this happened in the book or what the hell is going on😂 love your video on the series, made me feel like I was not crazy
Right? I literally revisited the first book before watching and there were times when I had to be like oh it must be this scene from the book
It would be so amazing if you could also do a spoiler rant review 😱
Thank you for saving me 6 hours of my life 😂 I’m so sorry it sucked! I love these books too
I haven't watched the show yet, but I was surprised when you mentioned Emma Myers. I do LOVE her as Enid, so it's probably a combo of directing, writing, editing, and even casting.
I LOVED THIS VIDEO, I know it’s not your normal format but I did enjoy it
Have watched the first two episodes. The main problem is Pip. She has absolutely no charisma. She's not a popular girl but she is charming enough that people will speak to her. Not in the show!!!
Ohhhhhhh a rare Megan rant video 😮 I am SEATED.
I was crying my eyes out while reading the book where Barney died. But in the series, it wasn't that emotional. And Pip's emotion for him seemed bland.(it just my opinion)
I didnt enjoy it either. Loved the books but none of the tv characters looked how i had seen them in my mind if that makes sense, particularly Pip.
exactly! i imagined her with longer brown hair and way different style...
This will be interesting to watch because I couldn't even get through the first episode of the show.
Absolutely HATED the addition of the subplot with Pippa finding her stepdad’s name in the hotel log. It did NOTHING for the overall story. It honestly just made her come across as really childish and petty. They completely changed her character. She never came across as being so clunky and naive in the book. I was so disappointed, because the book literally gives you EVERYTHING you need. Literally boo’d at the tv when it ended.
Honestly, the series was so different to the book. They removed the main points and made big changes. Personally very disappointed.
I was so hyped and a friend ask how was the viewing going and i was like, its bad 😭😭.
Everything felt so wrong and awful and pip was characterised so odly??
Im so sad abt it
100% agree that Emma as Pip was completely wrong, she was very cringe 😩
It’s such a shame because I don’t mind Emma as an actress and while I’m not necessarily against Americans being cast as Brits and vice versa, I think they probably should’ve stuck with a British actress in this case. It makes me feel like they casted her just to capitalise on the success of her role in Wednesday (which she was great in, but that was _such_ a different character)
@@jamiegduboiscouldn’t have said it better!!
THE WHOLE SHOW JUST MADE ME MAD. IM JUST GONNA BLOCK THAT SHOW OUT OF MY MIND BC IT WAS NOT THE AGGGTM I KNOW
I'm so glad someone else thought the same as me ! I agree with all of this. And it's so disappointing
I feel a more creative way they could have gone is it being narrated by pip, as she writes her epq at the end of the day, she could narrate the day
Kind of Lemony Snicket style! That would make the series a little more enjoyable.
So I just finished watching this as a non book reader, and my biggest gripe is that Pip didn't feel like a good detective. I don't really feel like she was piecing together the mystery effectively. The only comparison I can make here is The Batman, where I felt like Batman was really piecing together what The Riddler was doing in that movie.
Also, Emma Myers really wasn't cutting it here, and I hate saying that too. Though, I think this is because this is her 2nd big role ever. She was so much better in Wednesday.
I literally started watching the show, got 20 mins in and was like NOPE and came to watch your rant review instead 🥰
I thought the show confused a good girl and a goody two shoes.
Anna Maxwell Martin was in Line of Duty, Motherland and The Bletchley Circle. Plus a million other things.
Btw, did you see we’re getting a new Thursday Murder Club book next year.
got so fed up meg stood up halfway through the video lol😂
I am not alone! I was so excited for this, checking for a release date almost obsessively and I have been so disappointed. I understand the need to make things more visual for an adaptation. We can't have Pip sitting on her computer very much. But the way they went about it turned Pip into a passive character who is just a witness to people just wanting to share info with her out of the kindness of their heart. It robs her of her most important trait. Pip is smart, she is cunning. Naomi doesn't tell her to borrow her computer to lead her to the picture. Pip tricks her into it. Passive Pip isn't interesting. They also just erased Andy out of her own story. I guess they were afraid to show Andy as she was in all her imperfections. But if that is the case, they should not go near book 3 because if they can't handle showing a woman acting in ways that are not so nice to survive, they cannot handle the Pip of As Good as Dead.
I enjoyed the show but it was nowhere close to the book. Like it was OK and was a decent way to spend some time but I probably won't rewatch. I think I'll watch s2 if we get it.
The older actors were so good, although I didn't like that they added the storyline with Pips dad bc they're so close in the books. I liked Mathew Baynton but did find him hard to take seriously sometimes lol.
I felt like Pip didn't have to work for anything so there wasn't that much tension or intrigue. Like people just told her stuff and that was that. People told her to stop digging but she didn't dig; the fossil was on the surface.
Imo there were too many characters. Connor and Zach were so irrelevant. I knew nothing about them. And Connor is going to be important for S2 surely (as well as a notably absent journalist?). It was too long and too short at once to do what it wanted.
I agree with all of this ! Pip didn't seem as smart as what she is like in the book. It didn't really feel like a proper investigation. And where was Stanley Forbes ?? Like he is so important in book 2.
they should have done it like it's a real story and it's a documentary. almost like they do with true crime based stories or like daisy jones but more so. like you know how in a documentary they would like go to for example a museum and look at an old newspaper and over it talk with a person who works at the museum about this piece that they are looking at and why it's important for this thing the documentary is about. and then there is a voice over while the host is walking somewhere about what their next step is and why. like that's what they should have attempted to do in a way. like a complete documentary-esque style type a tv show. like an investigative documentary
Have you ever read the naturals by Jennifer Lynn Barnes it’s basically 5 teenagers are in the fbi as part of a secret program they also all have natural talents eg. lie detector or profiler but it a 4 book series and I absolutely love it I read it in a week
omg I've just finished book 2 ! It's soooo good and kinda reminds me of aggtm
@@elizalily9126 book 2 is definitely my favourite
I read those back in middle school and high school! Absolutely loved them!!
I think that the area they filmed in was beautiful, but I wish the town was more dark and gloomy. I always pictured the town with more of a heaviness over it, and with more of a darker atmosphere! (Although that was just *my* interpretation) And personally I feel like they didn’t do Andie’s character justice 😭 like there wasn’t much to her in the show 🤷🏻♀️
They forgot Stanley....I honestly don't know how they're going to make a second series of this, if it gets a green light to get made, without introducing him in this first series set. Love the trilogy (last one was omg!!) not fully loving the adaptation 🫤
Another thing I really don’t understand is in the show. Pip is all upset because she told Sal where Andy went, but it’s pretty reasonable to assume even if she wouldn’t have said anything he would have found her. He was following her and she just went into a classroom and he was behind her like 30 seconds so he probably would’ve looked in the classroom when he walked by to see if if she was in there, even if Pip didn’t say anything. It just seems like if that’s why she was really upset. It’s a weird reason because the show makes it out like he really easily could’ve just found her on his own and probably would have so I don’t understand why she would feel so guilty about that and I also don’t understand Reasoning for a lot of things like running after the person in the woods when they were camping that seems like a dumb thing to do or she knows if you were after her and making threats against her, but she still doing things on her own and getting her herself in the situation that very easily could get her Killed just like Andy like she thinks Max is guilty but she’s rooting around his room hunting stuff like that doesn’t make any sense. You think that the dad is guilty why are you going to get yourself locked into a house if you think he’s holding a girl hostage there why would you ever go there even if you did call the police he could kill you before the police get there, this man has a teacher salary. He’s paying for two different homes and just casually going there all the time to feed a kidnapped girl. He has locked in the attic that just seems so outlandish and wild that why would he do that?
Idk I feel like Ravi especially felt kind of off in the adaptation? And Ravi and Pip’s relationship really lost the chemistry it had in the book, like it’s been a while since I read it but I remember them being one of my favorite parts of the book, and Ravi being one of my fave characters like he felt really earnest and funny in the books, but in the show he just feels awkward and different ig??
I just finished the first episode and eek was not a fan. Idk whether to even continue lol. Also on another note, you should totally watch Daisy Jones. It is AMAZING
I haven’t read Daisy Jones but the tv show was ok
literally the lack of mixed media made this show SO BORING
One thing I really don’t get is the friend group of Sal. It’s really made out like he’s this good guy who doesn’t like drugs ball blah blah, but he hangs out with people that go to these parties where they do drugs and drink, and even so far as to go to a New Year’s Eve party and get drunk or high and drive home and get a wreck. It seems like you would make more sense if these were friends because she like to do drugs and drink and what not where is Sal did not. It just seems that these people would be friends at all let alone best friends.
I like that Holly Jackson uses similar plot locations in her books, similar things for AGGGTM and her new book Rachel Price (great book! I can’t remember if you’ve read it yet or not!)
This is why we read the books. I hadn't seen Wednesday or even knew it was the same actress, but I quite liked the actress here, but like you I like the Pip of the book more, and she wasn't the same. I am glad you made this review as it is accurate, and it seemed very condensed or just sort of going through the main bits of the plot without developing any substance of investment for the audience to care about the characters. Loads of folk read the book anyway, so not sure there would be a large part of the audience who didn't know the story? I hope you will be able to do a review for the book James by Perceval Everett. x
Hey I watch the series and im wondering if there is more to the story in other books. If there is, which one should I start with?
Omg there definitely is!! And I would totally recommend you to start from the first book, you might already know the plot twists but you’ll have a much, much better experience reading the book. Also, the series keeps getting better and better and especially the third book!
I just got done watching the series, and to my surprise, I actually enjoyed it. Emma Myers is actually good for this roll and I was loving the twists and clues of this. While I see the flaws with this series, I enjoyed it
too many improbabilities. The biggest one being that Elliot supposedly sold his house a few years ago, but still owns it and visits it regularly. No explanation as to why he pretended to sell the house! And it's on a suburban street in a small town, but no-one notices ! This would only be possible in an anonymous big city or in the middle of nowhere.
The show made the book appear less intelligent. Everything was so simple. I also didn’t like how the scenes progressed. It was way too fast paced.
Just finished the TV Show. Considering delving into the Book(s) next. As an American I didn't get hung up on Emma's Accent... Guess maybe having already watched her in Wednesday... I "accepted" that she was portraying a character and whatever "mistakes" or slips she made I forgave since (as an American) I suppose as long as I understood the character(s) without referring to Subtitles... It's good.
Having grown up watching British TV (via PBS) and programs/movies/shows can be "all over the place" and I don't have a grounding with "how" someone in a particular location/time/setting "should" sound... I won't know there is a problem unless I really look for it...
Classic Doctor Who (or Modern sometimes) had "American" characters and I "know" (or do now) the Actors were doing an imitation. Sometimes the writing "forced" them to speak "English" for the "Home" Audience (which would seem Odd to someone usually speaking "American English")...
Oh well, planning to try the first Audiobook of the Series... See how good/bad the Narration(s) are.
I’ve never read the book, so I can’t judge about the adaptation part of it all, but I agree with everything you said about the show itself. I saw the first 3 episodes last night and I just saw the second half before coming to UA-cam. Yesterday I was intrigued, but it was late so I had to stop and go to bed. Then today I felt disappointed after maybe the 4th episode, I just think the writing gets poorer and poorer as it starts to unravel the “mystery.” Some things don’t even make sense, people seem to confess to easily and yes there were a lot of dragging, like Elliot could have run away before the police gets there, idk.
Thank you for this video…I just finished watching the show and thought to myself…ehhh I don’t see why the book is so popular in the bookworld…and the show almost made me remove this book from my TBR. Thanks to you I will keep it on my list and will get to it hopefully soon…❤❤❤❤
Oh no😢 this comes out today on Netflix and I was really looking forward to it. Since I usually agree with your book reviews, I’m now afraid 😳
And also with what they did with becca and Andie’s relationship I mean they weren’t prefect sisters they were complicated so much like billy and max from stranger things were the elder one dies just to have a younger sibling to have their freedom which makes her bond more tragic that how becca never got know to that how much Andie cared for her and wanted to protect her
I never heard of or read the books, so I started watching the show kind of blindly. The premise was very intriguing, but as the show went on, I just had this feeling that many things were unresolved, that the main character was getting spoon-fed all this information from people (why were they willing to answer her questions?), and the final "twists" were, in theory, shocking, but they just somehow fell flat. I just felt like the execution was poor. You hit the nail on the head that Pip, the main character, was...boring and kind of 1-dimensional. Not to mention the amount of stupid, easily avoidable decisions she made started to piss me off. I kept telling my boyfriend that for someone so smart, she is so stupid.
I am a little shocked though, at the number of people saying Pip and Ravi had no chemistry. I felt like it was actually the opposite!
Hearing you talk about how much better the books are made me want to go out and buy them now.
I wanna direct one just to show them how it's done like.. 😭
I feel the poor up coming actors got misdirected. It was a great chance to be known too
The part where it’s a flash of Andie falling down the wall and she repositions her body is comical
Another fellow AGGGTM STAN and I agree with everything you said🫠 it was fun seeing the book come to life but.. maybe my expectations were too high😂
Omg I didn’t realise she was American because the show felt so British otherwise, it didn’t cross my mind they’d cast foreigners. Every time I paused the show and played, her accent would stick out to me and I thought oof that’s weird she sounds like she’s doing a fake accent. I feel like Brits and Irish sometimes accidentally sound American when they act so just assumed it was that going on.
she only learned a British accent two week prior to the filming
The accent was atrocious. I watched the whole thing, as it was so car crash I couldn’t stop. It very much aimed at a younger generations, that was my take away. It was a poor adaptation.
I haven't read the book(s) and I don't intend to, but I thought I'd share my opinion. The first thing I've noticed and disliked are the movie style and editing. I've noticed that at the beginning, they had a lot of camera shots that felt like they were trying to mimic Wes Anderson's style (which looked weird with the screen ratio), but then It'd change to more casual, BBC-style camera shots, and they abandoned that completely after, like, 3 episodes. Some cuts were weirdly done, and I hate that they included that hallway scene for what feels like a hundred times. Straying away from technical stuff, for me, there was no chemistry whatsoever between Pippa and Ravi. I tried to feel something, sympathy, when they were together on screen, but I literally couldn't care less about them. I also didn't like how the main character made dumb decisions constantly, e.g. going with the sister to the cave. She also wasn't clever in her interviews at all and I'm really surprised that any of the characters told her anything, with how she would ask questions.
Were we, as viewers, supposed to know how much time had passed? I genuinely can't tell if it's been a week, month or longer. And lastly, I don't know whether it was included in the book or not, but why wasn't the aftermath shown? Like, no worry from the parents whatsoever - excuse me?? your daughter was kidnapped, drugged and almost died. The lack of emotional scenes was bad.
First-time viewer here. Full disclosure: I listened to the American Audiobook, so it was all from the perspective of America. I am unsure of the changes and how much they influence the story. That being said, I've only seen one episode. Pipp in the show (Accent aside) doesn't feel as cunning or likable. The pacing in the show is way off, nothing like the slower build of the book. And everyone seems too damn suspicious. And the book never seemed like satire. This feels like a cheesy teen show from a discount TV channel. It's also very visually unappealing. It wasn't all bad, but it was definitely a big letdown. Loved the video!
I havent read the books. I must say there were SO MANY EASYY situatons and reveals in the show. not the most intrigguing for sure!
*The investigation itself was meh.* the ack of mystery and just basic information sources. The plot for the investigation really feel easy and forced at EVERY SINGLE POINT.
For the most part in the first half i *struggled to understand her motivations*, showing 1 scene 10 times sis not cut out for me. The viewers dont really know important aspects of Sal being a good guy, his relationship with pip and Andie , Andies dad being horrible? like just saying 'controlling' doesnt cut out, Andy being a bully and a complicated person (got to know about this from another video), and Ravi's bond with his brother and so many more dynamics. Some flashback scenes would have def helped coz the depth of why the case is uncovered, what are the motivations of the characters, of us, etc does, like why was pip the only one who cared, and y did she? for a SCHOOL PROJECT, AFTER 5 YEARS?
I donot think that Victors plot was unnecessary, and i liked that in the storyline. It was actually important to show that she grew vary of everyone around her as the case proceeded. it showed her mental state, and how untrustworthy she grew as a person, constantly thinking about who is really a good person, etc.. and ofc not every clue would become a lead, some have to be a miss.
Also IDK if Ravi was a great help and a real team partner at all. he was just a cute boy kinda there, pippa basically solves it solo in my opinion. Dont get me wrong I LOVED HIM. INDIAN CUTIE YAY. but wish he had more of a role and character. all i know is he stays home alot ashamed to face the world, cant leave the village coz parent, but then after the allegations of his brother are solved FEELS STUCK THERE? heck idk what he was doing on the day of the murder 5 yrs ago, did he live together with his fam?. One other huge weird thing i felt was- after the Sal's innocence was proved and shown that he was actually murdered, he basically pushes pippa aside, tells her he is done and she should fuck off and he is not interested in helping???? its like his character changed completey. It was really offputting. And then suddenly he sees a marshmallow and goes back? Like dude what if he didnt have that fkn marshmallow in the bag and he Pippa actually died?
Honestly if it actually happened i would be more hooked. coz the S2 plot could be ravi looking for pippa, he is having hard time facing the guilt for leaving her (partly understanding pippa here) and is geninuely concerend and realises he loved her. That would have been magnetic. Pipa could be kidnapped, struggling, dead, idk.
I Did like Emma tho, i guess because i am not British i didnt catch her bad accent. also for the record i enjoyed watching her way more than jenna ortega on wednesday!
I dont mind a S2 BUT THEY REALLY NEED TO WORK ON THE SHOW.
Ig this was a rant-
This show is probably one of the worst shows I watched. It has it all- bad acting, lazy writing, bland characters. The only thing that is good is the location or the town they shot it in.
I never read the book but was excited for the show because the trailers made it seem compelling. But the entire time I was watching I kept saying, “wow she’s really bad at this! Wow she is not very smart! Wow that is a really bad decision!” and I wondered if the book was as frustrating to read. 😅
I did enjoy the show well enough. But it sounds like the book is much better!
I watched 3 episodes, and i thought maybe I was just too old for this show. It was borderline satire silly for me. When the guy was staring at pip when driving the car with the blonde girl, I burst out laughing by how ridiculous that shot looked. Also, the pacing was jarring. I was like damn ravi was convinced QUICK. Idk Cara is probably my favorite character 👀Personally, I grew up with Veronica Mars and i thought this was going to be similar. 👀it was not. granted i never read the books so take my opinion with a grain of salt.