Combo Fighter Review - A Bruisingly Good Card Game
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For anyone asking how this compares to Yomi, we've now published a comparison article!
www.shutupandsitdown.com/impressions-yomi/
Shut Up & Sit Down sooo try exceed? 😀
Have you played Exceed yet? It is by far my favorite in this genre, but sadly doesn't seem to have much buzz going on?
@@Chaxex whhoops, missed that you sad it first!
Pretty much my thoughts boys. Great jobs on the turn around!
@@nathanielchambers8974 hehe love that game :D
Hey that looks fun! And surprisingly affordable! I might have to get an intern for myself!
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also not in stock anywhere which is nice
@@DanceLikeANitwit,
And I know, I looked!
Sock Lobster depends on where you live, DC always has a reliable supply
Cool review! No mention of Exceed is criminal, since it's also a simultaneous reveal fighting card game.
If we're talking combos, I still think Sakura Arms does it best. Combining two characters to make a deck makes pulling off crazy combos so much more exciting.
I mean lets see...exceed, yomi, battlcon. Im sure their are even more than that.
Dragon Punch, Video Fighter, Table Fighter, Popcats Fighter, Super Punch Fighter...
Came here to say this, Sakura Arms is my baby (to the point of playing the Japanese 2nd edition version), but I absolutely love to, to my friend's brains' dismay, Battlecon as well and can't wait to try Exceed some day.
Ouch, the hate for BattleCON and not even listing it in the end "if you don't like this try X" hurts. Sure it's a bit big with far too many pieces and can take a lot longer to play if you get bogged down thinking out your moves, but damn if it isn't a perfect re-creation of fighting games in every way and I absolutely love it. Might have to give this a look though, just to get something that might see a bit more play due to being shorter.
I feel like making a fighting game without incorporating the movement / spacing element is missing out 90 percent of what makes fighting games competitive
These characters don’t seem anywhere near sexy and/or racist enough to be a true tribute to 90s fighters.
Yeah it's a modernisation! Who needs the problematic elements?
@@aarcade6676 I know what it is; I was mostly just kidding around. Still, I think the characters in the game could stand to be a bit more flamboyant. "Woman in a hoodie and sweat-pants" isn't especially inspiring as far as a character concept goes, ya know?
Yea, character design kills it in the start for me...they look way too boring.
@@Reinshark I think they all have a lot of personality without being eccentricly designed
@I main Lili in Tekken. Thank you Lili, very cool
Check out Yomi if you want a card game that follows fighting game mechanics and flow. If Combo Fighter is for people who fondly remember mashing buttons 20 years ago, Yomi is for people who stuck around and learned how to play.
That being said, I think Combo Fighter is more broadly appealing because of its more professional art, its simplicity and it quick play time.
I came here to post about Yomi
I’m definitely keen on picking up combo fighter, but I can 100% recommend it if this looks like your kind of game
I was baffled that Yomi wasn't mentioned in the review!!
Does anyone in the comment section read before they post? This has been mentioned 1.5 billion times and liking eachothers comments doesnt make your guys point. It just means that their is only a couple of you.
Wait a minute this isn't Yomi! The classic fighting game style card game made by Mr. David Sirlin who is currently working on Fantasy Strike a simplified fighting game (seriously go check it out its cool).
This is Yomi. How is this not Yomi? This is Yomi.
This honestly reminds me of card-jitsu. That game has a LOT of "they're going to play fire, so they'll expect me to play water, so they'll play ice, but they're experienced so they'll still play fire, but not experienced enough to go one step further and play ice again, so I'll play water."
Video end time: 13:37
*NICE*
I don't get it
Alexander Diaz It is the numerized version of leet or "elite" its a bit of a gamer reference
Ben's excitement for the theme is infectious. Great work as always!
I love that you're now including where to buy in Australia! And also, Ben is doing a great job, love the character he brings to the videos.
The "Exceed" card game system is another excellent example of fighting games translated to tabletop aside from Yomi. There are 12 Street Fighter decks now, some other properties from Level99 games (the creator of the Exceed games) and even SHOVEL KNIGHT
It's very strange that they did not mention Yomi for the entire review. It's more or less the exact same game with more characters, more colorful artwork and a well liked IP behind it. I haven't tried Combo Fighter so it might be better but a comparison/thoughts on owning both games would have been nice. Regardless, great review as always!
I think they have something against David Sirlin. Even before watching this review I was sure that they weren't going to mention Yomi.
Does anyone in the comment section read before they post? This has been mentioned 1.5 billion times and liking eachothers comments doesnt make your guys point. It just means that their is only a couple of you.
@@rmcdaniel2424 Posting similar comments many times by different people DEFINITELY has an impact. Shut Up & Sit Down actually reviewed Yomi as an reaction to the flood of Yomi comments. You must be a miserable human being.
His voice kind of remind me of Paul
“Fist class ticket on a bruise cruise”
You guys have truly outdone yourselves.
while this looks relly good, I adore BattleCON. you mentioned that there is a random factor in this and thats exactly what I love about battlecon, the game is 100% strategy (or just pick Mikhail and win) and getting in your head.
I love BattleCON, this feels like it takes exceed and dumbs it down and makes it a bit more random.
Keep up the good work gents
I love Battlecon too. But I may get this. Battlecon is fun for complex fighting game. This looks like simple beat em up. There's room in my collection for both :p
Love the video but from what I can see Battlecon is leagues better than just advanced rock paper scissor. Good to see there are different options for this though!
For advanced Rock Paper Scissors you'd want Yomi, which is basically this game but with supers, more involved combos and knockdown mechanics.
Was so shocked to see this pop up, I’ve been down the UA-cam hole watching your old videos since the dune review, it took me a moment to realize this was a new video
Same here, loved the Dune review!
This game seems to basically be Yomi, just with a cheaper pricetag and fewer characters.
And a different way to play, which is good on its own!
I actually thought it was a re-themed Yomi at first
Does anyone in the comment section read before they post? This has been mentioned 1.5 billion times and liking eachothers comments doesnt make your guys point. It just means that their is only a couple of you.
you already have me at 5:40. I will now buy this game thankx
It's amazing how easy it is to make brighton look either sunny and chill or grim af!
looks like a pretty fun pick up and play game, will give it a little go
Eh, I think I'll stick with Sakura Arms by AEG for my one-on-one fighting card game, probably because I feel like it does a better job being more like a fighting game, complete with other concepts like spacing between fighters determining what moves can be used and super moves for when you've been getting hit too hard. It also has a bunch of fighters to choose from, but since you're building your deck with cards from two different fighters, the characters can feel really different and can help offset each others weaknesses or just double down on the same strength. As long as the artwork doesn't put you off (it's from their Big in Japan line so you know what to expect), it's a fun game that plays relatively quickly so you can get back in to try a new strategy.
Sakura Arms is insanely good...
sadly AEG doesn't plan to bring the SA expansions to the west... if you like SA, highly recommend the Shinmaku (japanese) edition, which has had a few updates and many new characters!
@@dfmchfhf9553 I had no idea it had expansions. I'll have to look those up. Thanks for letting me know.
2:04 Quinn opens his right guard to charge a punch, lowers his left arm leaving the face unexposed while at the same time advancing with his face first.
The scene is for laughs and gigs, however that's the way to call for a hook out punch to the jaw. Don't learn martial arts from this, kids.
How do you feel about Exceed, which even has new Street Fighter expansions? I'd love to hear your opinions since I've not played these games.
Great review; really enjoying the chemistry Quinns and Ben have.
>published today
Can't find a place to buy it online where it's not used or is available. the link in the description just says unavailable, so their link is essentially dead.
As an avid fan of competitive fighting game and board games - this seems like a serious match made in heaven.
Ah, so this is love at first sight. 😂
Awesome review guys!!
Beats the hell out of Battlecon? Quinns, this is just a weaker version of Yomi.
www.shutupandsitdown.com/impressions-yomi/
Well done Ben. I hope you can stick around for a bit. Great addition to the team.
Now for the real meat and potatoes, when do we get to see a Matt "The Worm" Lees V. Standard "The Reference" Pear battle????????
Sounds almost exactly the same as Yomi...? Surprised they never mentioned Yomi in the entire video...
I greatly enjoyed this review. Please hire Ben full time. Also yay for Mage Wars. I would love to see your review of Mage Wars.
I'm really glad somebody else had this idea. I repeatedly couldn't figure out how to get it to work.
This seems exceptionally smiliar to Yomi!
So, it's literally Yomi? Without the throws/knockdown mechanic.
and the aces tutoring, and combo points, etc.
Does anyone in the comment section read before they post? This has been mentioned 1.5 billion times and liking eachothers comments doesnt make your guys point. It just means that their is only a couple of you.
Each character has a different mechanic like that, the Japanese women has a submission mechanic, the wrestler has a ground fighting mechanic, and so on.
Small print, Ben. Always read the small print.
"We're not actually going to hit each other."
"Ben, if you read your contract..."
I had been designing a game JUST LIKE THIS... it was a boxing game and the game was a rock paper scissors style game. But that's where it ended... it was just rock paper scissors. I didn't think about the combo aspect or the damage taken being discarded cards. Well thought out. I'm glad it exists now! Can't wait to play it!
Being used to wacky character designs in fighting games, these look very bland to me
@@jonathanlane444 You seem to be confusing Street Fighter and Tekken or Primal Fury from the 80s and early 90s with...anime. This isn't an anime card game, this is, effectively, a love letter to Street Fighter or Tekken.
@@DwarfyDoodad Street Fighter and Tekken are super anime though
There's a very similar game by sirlin called Yomi.
The theme at least
The gameplay is different enough
Yeah super similiar. Simultaneous play rps games play combo to the winner etc. yomi has way more characters and is amazing.
Would've been hilarious if after the "If you read your contract.." line, Ben had a black eye at the table. Great review!
My group already plays Way of the Fighter, another fighting-game inspired board game from a few years ago that also has special moves, cards, combos, colorful characters from various backgrounds, etc. That game also lets you construct your own deck out of "technique packs" (sets of 8 (i think) cards themed around a certain fighting style), and it ramps up as the game progresses because you get more dice (used to partially determine which player's move gets priority in a blind bid) as you take damage. It's not as simple as this game, but if you're looking for a game like combo fighter but with more complex moves (WotF has a board and moves have specific hitboxes that means position matters) and a fun dice game attached, also maybe give Way of the Fighter a look before you buy Combo Fighter. Also, WOTF has a bunch of expansions, with new fighters and more technique packs... :D
But on the other hand, way of the fighter does maybe take a game or two to really internalize the rules, and there are a couple fiddly components you have to keep track of (I always forget the turn tracker lol)... And it's more expensive than combo fighter as well on account of all the dice, the board, the big ol' manual, and the cardboard standee pieces for each fighter...
Very disappointed that starting at around 9:20, to conclude Ben says 'Well played.' Clearly the SUSD signature phrase should have been used : 'A fine move.'
I remember looking at this while it was on kickstarter and thinking it was just simplified Yomi. My personal favorite card fighter is Exceed; it can have a rough learning curve for new players, but the complexity removes a lot of victory through button mashing.
I'll join the chorus and mention the real competition for this is Yomi and contrasting this to the reigning champion of in-depth fighting game card games probably would've made the review more complete. The first printing was 8 years old so it's not exactly well known.
The season is slowly shifting from summer to autumn, and the weather just looks miserable.
...Yeah, that jives with everything I've heard about England.
stop feeding lemons to the intern, he keeps making funny faces. It's cruel
Good review! You guys are great! As a fighting game player, I have two big problems with this game (and a little teeny bit with the review):
First: With a very few, very minor exceptions, there is NO RANDOMNESS IN FIGHTING GAMES. If you lose to someone button mashing, it's because you're bad. Period. Even a moderately skilled player, with a decent fundamental understanding of the game, can beat button mashing.
Second: I'm concerned about the implications of using the deck as your health counter. Because this means that as you take damage, you are literally losing attacks. Part of the appeal of fighting games is that it's never over until you're dead. If you're at 1% health and your opponent is at 100% health you can ALWAYS come back to wipe the floor with them, entirely under your own ability (and again, without the benefit/detriment of luck). Can you do that if there are only twenty cards left in your deck? Ten? Five? This is a fine in a lot of games, but limiting your resources according to previous performance in the round is antithetical to the core of what fighting games are supposed to be about.
The game looks fun, but that second part especially kinda makes me not want to buy it.
You cannot KO yourself by using cards. You have to take a hit. Until you do, you reshuffle your deck and keep playing.
@@asgerjohansen8466 Yes I figured but that's not the point. I'm saying if I only have five cards left in my deck, then I only have those five attacks to choose from for the rest of the game. Not only will my opponent know exactly what's in my hand every round, but I'll be extremely limited in what attacks I'll have and which combos I can play. Even at 10 or 15 cards in the deck, you could easily end up with, say, only one or two movement cards remaining, and have lost all copies of your most powerful/important cards, leaving you with a gimped and (worse) predictable deck for the last leg of the game. In game design we refer to this as "snowballing". In this instance it's a HUGE handicap, and something that would never EVER be tolerated in a fighting game.
13:37 AND an arcade stick? Good going, nerds 🤓❤️
Quinns got into Street Fighter V. You can hear about it in his podcast, "The Contender"
Bless his poor soul.
Looks like a slimer Yomi.
That's not a bad thing
I'm not sure about the reference to the little green ghost from Ghostbusters, but I think saying it's a slimmer Yomi is fair.
sooo yomi?
Nice to see Quinns is a fan of the Twister ice lolly which is ALSO the name of a particularly nasty grappling move where you try to move your opponent’s spine in two directions at once. Synergy!
This literally just sounds like Yomi
Not quite... it is interesting on its own
@@ramsey276 Rip off of yomi
Does anyone in the comment section read before they post? This has been mentioned 1.5 billion times and liking eachothers comments doesnt make your guys point. It just means that their is only a couple of you.
@@rmcdaniel2424 Holy hell, salty much? Reposting the same comment 1.5 billion times doesn't make your point either.
Great review! I love fighting games and board games AND card games. No mention of Yomi, another very similar card game based on fighting games, was off-putting for me. Have you not tried Yomi?
Great performance by Ben!
Very nice old school review! Keep it up!
Ben is cool.
Yomi is also a great fighting game, albeit expensive.
I was surprised they didn't mention that one. Wonder if they've played it.
Yomi!
It is pricey, but it's so very good. It seems very similar to this, but I like that it has dodge & block. And the Aces are fabulous
The gamer in me is crying inside that they dedicated a 13 minute review to what is essentially a less-good YOMI...
www.shutupandsitdown.com/impressions-yomi/
I'm a big fan of Level 99's Battlecon and Exceed games; anyone have a thought on how it compares to those?
8:16. OMFG I FREAKING GOT A MENTAL IMAGE OF THAT XD
Quinns' "signature move" is responsible for a new personal record shortest time for hitting the Like button.
The characters designs are really dull tbh
I think theres an appeal to it - they're clean and minimalistic. You can play Battlecon if you want an albino with 1000 earrings.
I’m broke so I just made a game like this with index cards, rly fun tho
Could just a few thousand more people ask "What about Yomi?", I don't think the point has been made yet.
So glad the bandanas got to make a comeback!
Great job, intern! :)
But what about YOMI, wait that game has even a fisical version? Yes it does, check it out!
Thumbs-down for maligning fans of the word 'physical'...
Do they not mention Yomi? Yikes
@@Zero-Integral lol me native spanish slip there.
The most difficult part about making a fighting Game. Is making it LIKE a fighting Game.
I'm trying my hand at it. It's both challenging and fun
OMIGA [Flanx] is my go to fighting game. Quick and fast paced games, where can block, stab your opponent in the chest or spin round them and slice their neck from behind. All in a minimalist style.
the game looks fun, but I really hate the art. its extremely boring.
This. So much wasted potential... what in the hell is this?
KOMI had worse art lol
Especially when put up against Yomi, BattleCON, or Exceed: Seventh Cross. The character designs in this are very boring. I may wind up getting it anyway though.
Awesome review, game looks really fun! I like the new guy, very funny!
pleasantly surprised to see a SUSD review for this game! I backed on kickstarter, I think the game is great!
Would love to see a review of War Chest
FIRST
Has SU&SD ever mentioned Thunder and Lightning? Amazing two player card game and SO UNBELIEVEBLY TENSE! We simply call it Scary Cards BECAUSE IT'S JUST SOOOO TENSE! And it's an amazing game to play with someone you know well because of the secrecy/bluffing/deduction elements. I reckon it's right up Quinns' alley!
Great video! Sounds like it fits right into my favorite category of "generates a ton of exciting and/or hilarious moments condensed down to a small box, simple rules, and relatively short play time while still providing interesting player decisions." That's a long label for a category though so I hope we can figure out something a bit nicer.
Also, there was a brief mention of variants for other player counts, but it wasn't really talked about in the video? I'm kind of curious about those, as I do love a good two player game, but in board games, flexibility is value!
Ads before a SU&SD video? Congratulations on your move to Monetizationville, guys!
Oh, they were so close to getting it right... but it's Snøstorm, not Snø Storm.
1vs1 and collectable and Quinns didn't mention Netrunner; fuck that funeral was bleak... no wonder he needed that extra sip of pirate coffee
What about Yomi?
Also, I really like the art, but the characters are awfully unappealing.
What's unappealing about them?
Well, they're boring. There's nothing special about them, nothing memorable. They're like normal people.
www.shutupandsitdown.com/impressions-yomi/
I normally don't prefer games where luck can kill your strategy, but this one looks tolerably fun!
Combo Fighter vs Street Masters, which captures the essence of 80's classic arcade fighting better?
Depends on what you are looking for. Combo Fighter is Street Fighter/Tekken and Street Masters is Double Dragon/Final Fight/Streets of Rage. Pretty different genres
Man, Ben’s great. Ben can stay. He’s slipped in so naturally to the SUASD style, I got halfway into the review and forgot he was new.
Don't pretend that Yomi doesn't exist!!!
This does not seem more fun than Battlecon. This seems kind of boring, but maybe it’s fun as a quick game.
“This game beats BattleCon out of the water!”
Thomas has never seen such bullshit before. (Seriously, you guys are really out here saying a Rock Paper Scissors variant with less mind games than card-jutsu is better than battlecon??? Nice video nonetheless, even if I REALLY disagree with you.)
I have never seen this other dude in another video by you guys that’s how bad Quinns beat him in Combo Fighter.
Quinn''s shirt is a result of washing a red bandana with the whites...
How does this game compare to Angry Joe's Kickstarter Street Fighter board game?
Why pretend yomi doesn't exist?
That dudes eyebrows are out of this world
This helps with my maths calculations for my test👌🏾. Not wasting my time
Paul! Welcome back!!! I always wondered what he would look like without his beard. Not what I expected! Why are you going by Ben now?
Mage Wars is a fine game but infinitely more complex and is more like a miniatures game. I don’t see any overlap here other than they are both 2 player games. I would recommend Hero Realms first and even that’s a huge stretch.
Quinns also forgot Arboretum.
This looks like a nice lighter weight, faster fighter than the others I have. None of the characters look exciting to me though and that's a huge draw to fighting games. Way of the Fighter has my favorite character designs, and Yomi is also good. Both those games require too much knowledge and skill developed over time to really whip it out and play with a bunch of new players. I just wish I liked the look of any of the characters.
You should also try Way of the Fighter, EXCEED, Yomi, Sakura Arms, and Dragon Punch.
Came for the fighting game based card game
Stayed for the funny British dudes
Seems like a reskin of YOMI ?
I found it difficult to focus on the review as I was distracted by the prominent placement of Klax on Quinns' bookshelf. It's... unexpected.