Kings staying stagnant killed the Fox-Sabonis era. And all respect to Demar he is not at fault here for the Kings regression at all, but getting Demar was the final nail in the coffin because he really wasn't the Kings needed
All they really needed to do was add a defensive big to compliment Sabonis and they’ve literally never added anyone. We have a big man rotation that still includes Alex frickin Len, Trey Lyle’s and other bums named Orlando Robinson and Isaac jones. Lol truly pathetic gm in Monte. Wasn’t even complicated and dude never did anything past 2 seasons
im sorry but did you not watch the video? its not the defense that is hurting them its the offence. they are not shooting at a high percentage and and their bench is not producing any offence at all.
@crossfeed-e2d When the shots aren't falling, you turn to defense to win games and... getting derozan along with the existing non defenders is not gonna help.
They need defense and yet they picked up DeMar DeRozan that the Raptors traded away and got another player with the same playstyle but is willing to defend and they won a freaking championship in the same season
I feel like Pacers went in too hard on Haliburton. His shot selection is terrible and his attitude just worsens each day. Turner is still an elite defender.
They were third in the west that year, that didn’t squeak in. The injuries are the factor that got them that high of a seed in the playoffs that year, it was significant factor in them making the playoffs.
None of this is a surprise. I've been saying these things since the moment they made the moves: "You can't compete with Sabonis anchoring the middle." "Derozan doesn't move the needle, he makes their defense worse and MIGHT be a terrible match for this offense." "You aren't winning anything with 4 bad defenders in your main lineup." This is the way the NBA works.
@@Miles_305 - theres always an excuse, sure. Sabonis leads the team in +/-, at +74, Fox is 7th on the team at +12, barely a positive. Fox doesnt impact winning, he never has
Exactly you have to have a top ten player to be a true contender and fox isn’t in that realm at all he’s not even a top 20 player and he’s a streaky shooter at 6’3… he can’t be the number one on a contender and It’s hard to make a streaky shooter a number 2 option like kyrie and dame
Demar's a blackhole and the player that preludes a tank. You get Demar your team will die or win after he leaves. They needed a swingman and a blocker bigger than Sabonis. Keegan Murray, Huerter, Malik, Fox are all ball hungry shooters. They actually needed Draymond Green/Sarr/Edey/Gafford. Len does not belong in the NBA anymore wtf. Sabonis can't be the biggest guy. Losing Harrison Barnes was actually huge.
I saw this trainwreck coming the first minute after the signing. The Kings signing Rozan and drafting a guard demonstrates low basketball IQ. Trade Demar and the guard for Cam and we can be back in business!
Hot take but the 2022-23 season was the season of injuries and that is one of the SOLE reasons the Kings were the 3rd seed that year, they were one of the FEW teams that were incredibly HEALTHY all year, notice how they haven’t done shit since because all the teams the past 2 seasons have been healthier now
honestly i belive that fox made his decision to want out last year when he didn't sign the extension ..... the kings just have been silent about it all ... they brought in derozen to replace fox once he leaves ... at this point might as well just tank for cooper
@@nydibs yeah cause 24k points is overrated lol hate on demar all u what he going to the hall when he’s done fox will never reach 24k what has Fox done as his teams best player ? I know what demar did and thats reach an ECF goofy
@@jalynjones9136 - I agree that Fox is overrated, I just think Demar is too. Why anyone thought that pairing the two of them together would be successful is beyond me
When I saw your tweet last night I thought “he should make a video about this”. Sure enough, here you are.🤣 Also, since you brought up Keegan Murray, now’s a good time to bring up that I went to school with him and Kris. We had some of the same basketball practices in back in middle school. I knew they were better than me but both of them being 1st round picks? Wow!
No one cares about him leaving he ain’t gonna win anywhere else either yall try & act like he isn’t the problem himself, he’s not even a point guard he doesn’t know how to get his teammates involved or set the table for them he doesn’t make his guys better he’s just out to get his own I ain’t mad at him but let’s stop acting like he’s blameless
It's a lot of high scoring point guards in this league that aren't "point guards". Hell, there so many of them that they've literally cannibalized shooting guard position, because all the guys who SHOULD be SG play PG because they're too small. You take out Booker, Brown, and Harden, and EVERY OTHER star guard is a PG. Ja. Ant. Donovan Mitchell. Kyrie. Steph. Dame. Trey Young... the list goes on. They're ALL PGs who aren't "point guards".
@@En4cer2K9 yeah but outside of ja all those guys can consistently shoot the ball and have shown they can carry teams to the playoffs including ja who can’t shoot but has the grizzlies a top 3 seed after they missed the playoffs without him. Fox isn’t a leader either he’s to nonchalant can’t have that from your best player.
@jadenburns2656 you know what all those guys have in common? They have better constructed teams. The Kings still have major holes in the roster that a 6'3" point guard CANNOT solve. If you swapped Fox with any of those teams, the result would be the same. They would still be good teams and the Kings would still be bad because our team was poorly constructed around small guards, few big men, and a coach who doesn't know how make adjustments or maximize the talent he does have. I thought the slogan was "character matters"? The Kings have a roster of good character guys now. What's the problem?
Problem with Fox is that he brings no value when he doesnt have the ball, but hes really not good enough to be a #1 option. He's just not a winning player and doesnt look like he ever will be
A lot of people are either dumb or willfully ignorant. The Kings flaws have been the same flaws since year one. No size or athleticism, and no wings and no rim protection. The front office has FAILED to address this glaring weakness and then the alleged "defensive minded" coach REFUSED to play the best defender they DID have (Davion Mitchell) in game 7 against Steph, who averaged 30 points in the series, but suddenly went off for 50 in Michell's absence. All that being said, there's so many "kings fans" that are turning on Fox, as if it's HIS FAULT that this poorly constructed roster isn't any good, and actually WANT him to be traded, claiming "he's not a winner". This roster was never really built AROUND Fox. Besides Keegan Murray, we've drafted nothing but GUARDS in the last several years, from Tyrese Haliburton to Davion Mitchell to Colby Jones to Devin Carter. What part of "size", "wing depth" or "rim protection" is that? This organization has failed him, but everybody instead blames FOX for essentially not being Lebron.
Not playing davion mitchell was so stupid of them and there have now been games where keon ellis doesnt play. He is their best defender and consistently hits 3s. Maybe that was a Mike Brown rotation problem though.
Saying Sabonis is the last in blocks is just your failed attempt to find reasons of losses. Is Jokic a blocking center? Pacers' main center is a blocking machine. Where are the Pacers now? Same place as the Kings. Sabonis is not the reason. Guys that can't hit a fkn three is a reason. And regarding Sabonis - if there is no one to pass to, what's the point of having a good passer. The teams who won championships never won because of having a good shotblocker at 5. It's because they score the fkng buckets.
I was definitely one of them, I knew it might not have been the easiest fit but I don’t think it’s Demar that’s the problem. The team as a whole doesn’t have that energy or belief it seems like they had in the 22-23 season
lol I’ll take the L on that. Still figured we would’ve added a defensive 4/5 that complimented Sabonis but nope. Oh well it’s over blow it up pray we get some value for fox, Sabonis
I was NOT one of them. Sacramento Kings have nowhere near a winning mindset. It doesnt matter who they bring. They need to fire everyone, coaching staff, trainers, janitors...EVERYONE. Nobody has that fire and hunger to win
I loved Demar on and off the court as a bulls fan but I knew this signing wasn’t moving a thing for them. He was much older and not the primary ball handler like he was for the bulls. Some players just don’t fit with certain teams. The bulls were mid but Demar was a good fit next to Coby, ayo, and AC. Chemistry plays a factor as well..
Bulls weren’t good with DeRozan either, a fringe playoff team in a weak eastern conference. Guards need to be able and willing to shoot 3s in today’s game, simple as that.
@@EyemProtected lol no they weren’t. Under .500 in a bad eastern conference, somehow still made the play in game. Demar doesn’t fit in the modern nba. Bulls had similar problems though, a bunch of guards surrounded by a solid big man. Vuc is nowhere near Sabonis’ level though.
Bulls young play players actually contributed with DeMar unlike the kings. Watch the games. I already mentioned we were mid but IMO we were a better team than what he’s on now. Top 5 in clutch games.. what about the kings? Two “clutch” players and can’t even finish out games against the damn pistons lol.
they just need better players around fox and Sabonis. Murray has regressed and Demar doesn't fit. a 3 and D wing would help a lot. They need a retool not a rebuild.
Bro Fox is not that guy, he’s clearly a second option masquerading as a first option, that would be like trying to build a championship contender with kyrie as your centerpiece.
Actually watching kings games you would see how much better sabonis has been on the defensive end this season. He has clamped guys like jokic and AD. Deaaron still is preforming like he does but he chucks up transition 3s so much and it hurts to watch the ball turn over sp quickly. We should have gotten rid of kevin heurter and trey lyles in the off season ans it makes no sense to have them on our roster. Personally at the moment I would bench demar and play keon ellis more. Keon’s playstyle perfectally meshes with the team (and is a great defender) but mike brown and doesn’t play him for some reason. We are also goving people like doug mcdermont, demar, trey lyles, and jordan mclauglin too much playtime. We haven’t changed this team that much at all since 2022, the problem is the players and coaches.
I gave up on the Kings 3 years ago after 30 years of being a fan. Kings don't deserve me as a fan!! Small market teams are farm system teams. You don't matter. Kings will never ever win a Ring.
Maybe, just maybe they should have drafted Luka Doncic. Im no genius, but i feel like that could have helped them, especially considering M. Bagley isnt even playing on the team anymore.
@nydibs what's super funny about that is V. Divac was asked about the trade at the end of last year and he said it's impossible to tell right now because Luka and Bagley are still playing. Thats a guy that won't admit he made a mistake. People would stop asking him about it if he just comes out and says it, but his pride won't let him do that.
Smartest thing the Kings can do at this point, is save that top 12 draft pick or better. If they get anything worse than a 12th pick, ATL will get it. And for what? A lost season anyways? MAYBE push for a play-in appearance? Their draft pick from last season has been injured the entire time but I have faith Devin Carter is exactly what this roster needs, you add that with potentially a strong draft pick this upcoming off-season, the Kings could be strong. A few defensive pieces and they're rly good. I think they need to trade Demar though, they need a defensive minded, athletic 4 in that position, and put Keegan at the 3.
As a Kings fan, I'm so disappointed with our management that I am considering switching teams. (Anyone have any recommendations?) Mike Brown hasn't been playing Keon Ellis or Kevin Huerter nearly enough, as they both contribute on both ends, while DeMar is average offensively and horrible on defense. We have no backup center, and Sabonis has been bad on offense and defense this season. Fox's numbers look down, but he seems to have stepped away on the offensive end, and it's really frustrating to watch as it's clear that he is our best scorer. What we need to do is get rid of DeMar (in any way possible), and potentially fire Mike Brown. I think an underrated loss for the team was Jordi Fernandez going to the Nets, we just haven't been the same since. (Maybe we should steal Steve Nash from them and see if he can teach us to shoot free throws!) Somehow our team has nobody playing their best basketball (Huerter and Keegan have been incredible except on threes, Fox needs to just do his thing more on offense), and no good draft picks (not that we were going to get anything good anyway). It's been a rough season, that's for sure.
I put up with the Kings for 30 years until I had enough of losing i switched to my 2nd favorite team with my favorite player Warriors!! I couldn't be happier. I've always liked Warriors players over the Kings for the past 30 years. Kings didn't deserve me as a fan!! Why be Loyal to a team that isn't Loyal to y you? Kings organization has always sucked. If a bad marriage doesn't work out, don't you leave them? Yes. If not be prepared to keep on losing.
I agree that Sabonis is really bad at shot blocking, but besides that, I don’t think he’s that much of a negative on defense. I think the issue with Sabonis on defense is that he’s under sized for a center (6’10 with a 6’11 wingspan) and he doesn’t have a very impressive vertical jump. But for a center he’s one of the most agile centers and he’s competent at contesting shots away from the rim. I kinda just think the kings need a stretch big kind of player (similar to a Brook Lopez) and that would fix a lot of the gaps in their defense. I think Sabonis is much more suited for guarding the 4 since he’s fast enough to keep up with forwards. And also the kings are 15th in defensive rating while being a top 10 offense. So I think the kings have played better this season than their record shows.
@ i never said they were a contender. Just because you aren’t one of the best teams doesn’t mean you need to blow it up. You are a casual and don’t know ball.
Ah yes, the “casual and don’t know ball comment” classic. The Kings still aren’t very good. A nice streak in January doesn’t change the fact that they’re still mid. The roster has hit their ceiling and everyone sees it
@ if the shoe fits. If you blurred out kings no one would know what team you are talking about because a lot of the teams are in that same position. If you really think you have to be able to contend or blow it up why didn’t you mention over half the nba? You thought the kings were an actual 13-19 team because you don’t watch the games. Now you are calling them mid lmao. You cant make up your mind because you don’t know what you are talking about. Id still recommend deleting this video like when the other people who dont know ball had the same take and have had to delete their comments.
Are you new to basketball? Being mid is the worst place to be in the NBA, which is precisely why I’m saying they should blow it up and start fresh. How is that changing my mind? Did you even watch the video to understand the context? Or you just saw the title and got in your feelings? I’ve admitted on the channel when I’ve been wrong. A nice streak mid season doesn’t negate that they aren’t going anywhere or have gone anywhere for years
I was at the arena when Demar was introduced for the first time and he was sitting about 15 seats from Fox for an exhibition game. Zero chemistry. Fox looked like he didn’t want to be there
I hope fox leaves . Sabonis is a horrible defensive anchor at centre. Fox is the only player on that kings starting 5 that plays good defence. Sabonis offers no rim protection , Murray plays no defense also. Would love to see him on the spurs. Him and Wemby would be an amazing duo to watch .
This got liked by And One Hoops? Jesus neither of you watch the Kings or can even read some analytics. Keegan Murray is the best defender on the team, is +/- is insane even with awful shooting this season, he's one of the best defenders in the league. Fox is great too. Sabonis is positive on defense as well, just isn't a shot blocker. Actually watch some ball, Kings defense is bad in ONE aspect, perimeter defense/the 3.
@@TheBestCASE 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 you are delusional. You are smoking crack if you actually believe Keegan Murray is the best defenders in the league . You clearly don’t watch the games, there is a reason why the are NOT in the playin. The kings have one of the worst point allowed numbers in the league.
Fox will get his 4th nba coach fired. At some point, like now, it ain't the gm or the owner or the coaching staffs or his teammates. FOX IS THE PROBLEM. HE'S THE FRANCHISE PLAYER. Supposedly he's the "SUPERSTAR." IT'S 8 YEARS. Fox needs to look in the mirror and say HE'S THE PROBLEM. Get traded to another new team and be the 3rd option 😂 where he always belong.
Yeah, it’s sad seeing the front office continue to bet on Fox when he’s shown he isn’t willing to be the leader. Paying him a super max would be a mistake at this point.
Kings need center rim protector reb but if fox like trade i like the jaylen green package plus pick and young player like jabari smith or zion plus picks multiple 1st rounds picks and pick swaps
Sac radio personality the other day: If Fox leaves, this team implodes, and I'm leaving too. I'll go to Kxxx and someone else can cover this garbage-ass team.
2/3rds of the 2023-2024 roster is unplayable. After trading for Sabonis, they've made only negative moves. Yes, that includes Keon trash Ellis. You can make an argument Trey Lyles and Harrison Barnes are more effective on the Kings than Demar Derozan will be.
@@And.One.Hoops1 Yea he average 25 ppg for a season only 3 times in his career and he is in his 16th season DUH he should have 24k points in his career bet has he won 1 scoring title.........I'll wait???
@@And.One.Hoops1 so we supposed to pretend like the difference between 6 and 11 isn't like 2-3 games? say you don't watch basketball without saying you don't watch basketball.
So you think they have suddenly turned a corner are going to make a playoff push in the stacked west because they’re on a win streak in January? Say you don’t watch basketball without saying you don’t watch basketball
@@And.One.Hoops1 i think "blow it up" after going 5-1 doesn't make a lot of sense notice how you didn't address the fact that the diff between 5 and 11 is like 3 games, 8 and 11, it's like 1 game.
Trade Fox to Spurs for a young players and Spurs first round picks. Trade Sabonis young player and first round picks. Rozans for young talent and trade capital. Trade Monk for trade capital and try to capture the flag
If a team isn't Loyal to you, why should you be Loyal to that team? I switched to the Warriors since they've always been my 2nd favorite team with my favorite player!! Made since to me. I hate the kings with a passion now!! Talk shi$ all you want, you lose, i win!!
Kings are The NY Giants of the NBA; only one season with a surge under a new HC, then back to being poverty. Eliminating the Warriors in the play-in was their finals but hey, just keep lighting that beam😂😂😂
Kings staying stagnant killed the Fox-Sabonis era. And all respect to Demar he is not at fault here for the Kings regression at all, but getting Demar was the final nail in the coffin because he really wasn't the Kings needed
All they really needed to do was add a defensive big to compliment Sabonis and they’ve literally never added anyone. We have a big man rotation that still includes Alex frickin Len, Trey Lyle’s and other bums named Orlando Robinson and Isaac jones. Lol truly pathetic gm in Monte. Wasn’t even complicated and dude never did anything past 2 seasons
For a while the kings and pacers looked very exciting but having poor defense always comes back to haunt you.
im sorry but did you not watch the video? its not the defense that is hurting them its the offence. they are not shooting at a high percentage and and their bench is not producing any offence at all.
@crossfeed-e2d When the shots aren't falling, you turn to defense to win games and... getting derozan along with the existing non defenders is not gonna help.
They need defense and yet they picked up DeMar DeRozan that the Raptors traded away and got another player with the same playstyle but is willing to defend and they won a freaking championship in the same season
Low-key they should have traded for drew Holliday well before he went to the Celtics
I feel like Pacers went in too hard on Haliburton. His shot selection is terrible and his attitude just worsens each day. Turner is still an elite defender.
they could have luka doncic and they choose bagley , there is no hope for this franchise
Fox wanted the kings to draft his friend, TRASH MARVIN BAGLEY🤫🤫🤫🤫
Another thing, fox has always been the PROBLEM.
They would’ve wasted Luka’s career had he’d been drafted by that poverty franchise. Mavericks saved him
Fun fact, the supersonics have won a series more recently then the kings. You read that correctly the SUPERSONICS not the okc thunder lol.
And guess who the Seattle Supersonics beat in their last postseason series win...the Sacramento Kings.
@joesakic91 that's crazy I didn't even realize that lol
@Protagonix 😂literly can't make this stuff up
The one season they made the playoffs most of the west was injured
They were third in the west that year, that didn’t squeak in. The injuries are the factor that got them that high of a seed in the playoffs that year, it was significant factor in them making the playoffs.
True until the 6 seed Warriors exposed those frauds😂😂
@@brucecurtis6910they were the biggest 3 seeded frauds
@@nickmontanabass winning in 7 to a first year playoff team isnt exactly exposing
@@nickmontanabassKings are frauds
None of this is a surprise. I've been saying these things since the moment they made the moves: "You can't compete with Sabonis anchoring the middle." "Derozan doesn't move the needle, he makes their defense worse and MIGHT be a terrible match for this offense." "You aren't winning anything with 4 bad defenders in your main lineup." This is the way the NBA works.
Kings should do the favour to sabonis and trade him. He is way to good to waste his prime in sac.
People keep saying how underrated Fox is, but what has he ever done in his career. 1 playoff appearance in 7 seasons.
Surely that's more a poor roster construction issue than a Fox issue🤔
Actually very low iq take , the kings haven’t done anything because of bad coaching and front office tbh
@@Miles_305 - theres always an excuse, sure. Sabonis leads the team in +/-, at +74, Fox is 7th on the team at +12, barely a positive.
Fox doesnt impact winning, he never has
Exactly you have to have a top ten player to be a true contender and fox isn’t in that realm at all he’s not even a top 20 player and he’s a streaky shooter at 6’3… he can’t be the number one on a contender and It’s hard to make a streaky shooter a number 2 option like kyrie and dame
@@nydibsIt's easy to say that when he is not in a situation where he can do that consistently.
Demar's a blackhole and the player that preludes a tank. You get Demar your team will die or win after he leaves. They needed a swingman and a blocker bigger than Sabonis. Keegan Murray, Huerter, Malik, Fox are all ball hungry shooters. They actually needed Draymond Green/Sarr/Edey/Gafford. Len does not belong in the NBA anymore wtf. Sabonis can't be the biggest guy. Losing Harrison Barnes was actually huge.
Gotta say I didn't like demars effect on the bulls last szn and I had a feeling it was gonna happen to sac too and tragically it did
Sad case
"He Gone" 😂😂😂
Can of corn
@@jayridglyn8580what the hell does this even mean?
I saw this trainwreck coming the first minute after the signing. The Kings signing Rozan and drafting a guard demonstrates low basketball IQ. Trade Demar and the guard for Cam and we can be back in business!
Hot take but the 2022-23 season was the season of injuries and that is one of the SOLE reasons the Kings were the 3rd seed that year, they were one of the FEW teams that were incredibly HEALTHY all year, notice how they haven’t done shit since because all the teams the past 2 seasons have been healthier now
46-36 last season with Monk and Huerter being injured for the last 10-15 games.
honestly i belive that fox made his decision to want out last year when he didn't sign the extension ..... the kings just have been silent about it all ... they brought in derozen to replace fox once he leaves ... at this point might as well just tank for cooper
Derozan might be the only player more overrated than Fox. Neither guy is a winning basketball player, just empty stats
@@nydibs yeah cause 24k points is overrated lol hate on demar all u what he going to the hall when he’s done fox will never reach 24k what has Fox done as his teams best player ? I know what demar did and thats reach an ECF goofy
Demar wasn’t brought in to replace fox he’s 35 like what yall just be saying anything fr
@@jalynjones9136 - I agree that Fox is overrated, I just think Demar is too. Why anyone thought that pairing the two of them together would be successful is beyond me
When I saw your tweet last night I thought “he should make a video about this”. Sure enough, here you are.🤣
Also, since you brought up Keegan Murray, now’s a good time to bring up that I went to school with him and Kris. We had some of the same basketball practices in back in middle school. I knew they were better than me but both of them being 1st round picks? Wow!
No way! Thats crazy!
I think it’s time to move out of your moms basement
No one cares about him leaving he ain’t gonna win anywhere else either yall try & act like he isn’t the problem himself, he’s not even a point guard he doesn’t know how to get his teammates involved or set the table for them he doesn’t make his guys better he’s just out to get his own I ain’t mad at him but let’s stop acting like he’s blameless
It's a lot of high scoring point guards in this league that aren't "point guards". Hell, there so many of them that they've literally cannibalized shooting guard position, because all the guys who SHOULD be SG play PG because they're too small. You take out Booker, Brown, and Harden, and EVERY OTHER star guard is a PG. Ja. Ant. Donovan Mitchell. Kyrie. Steph. Dame. Trey Young... the list goes on. They're ALL PGs who aren't "point guards".
@@En4cer2K9 yeah but outside of ja all those guys can consistently shoot the ball and have shown they can carry teams to the playoffs including ja who can’t shoot but has the grizzlies a top 3 seed after they missed the playoffs without him. Fox isn’t a leader either he’s to nonchalant can’t have that from your best player.
@jadenburns2656 you know what all those guys have in common? They have better constructed teams. The Kings still have major holes in the roster that a 6'3" point guard CANNOT solve.
If you swapped Fox with any of those teams, the result would be the same. They would still be good teams and the Kings would still be bad because our team was poorly constructed around small guards, few big men, and a coach who doesn't know how make adjustments or maximize the talent he does have.
I thought the slogan was "character matters"? The Kings have a roster of good character guys now. What's the problem?
Fox is a # 2 on a championship team . But rich Paul keeps telling GM his a # 1 and most GM believes him 🤣
Problem with Fox is that he brings no value when he doesnt have the ball, but hes really not good enough to be a #1 option. He's just not a winning player and doesnt look like he ever will be
I'm pretty disappointed in Deebo. I'm even more disappointed that I drafted him in my fantasy league 😭
Dude…same. I just recently traded for him in my league
@@And.One.Hoops1Dude how did you pull that off?? I've been thinking about putting him on the chopping block but his value is so low right now
I’m sure u watch the wnba u doofus
Keep hearing Fox to the Spurs, I would prefer Sabonis to the Spurs if Kings blow it up!
Fox and Wemby would be a crazy duo ngl
A lot of people are either dumb or willfully ignorant. The Kings flaws have been the same flaws since year one. No size or athleticism, and no wings and no rim protection. The front office has FAILED to address this glaring weakness and then the alleged "defensive minded" coach REFUSED to play the best defender they DID have (Davion Mitchell) in game 7 against Steph, who averaged 30 points in the series, but suddenly went off for 50 in Michell's absence.
All that being said, there's so many "kings fans" that are turning on Fox, as if it's HIS FAULT that this poorly constructed roster isn't any good, and actually WANT him to be traded, claiming "he's not a winner". This roster was never really built AROUND Fox. Besides Keegan Murray, we've drafted nothing but GUARDS in the last several years, from Tyrese Haliburton to Davion Mitchell to Colby Jones to Devin Carter. What part of "size", "wing depth" or "rim protection" is that? This organization has failed him, but everybody instead blames FOX for essentially not being Lebron.
Not playing davion mitchell was so stupid of them and there have now been games where keon ellis doesnt play. He is their best defender and consistently hits 3s. Maybe that was a Mike Brown rotation problem though.
Saying Sabonis is the last in blocks is just your failed attempt to find reasons of losses.
Is Jokic a blocking center?
Pacers' main center is a blocking machine.
Where are the Pacers now? Same place as the Kings.
Sabonis is not the reason.
Guys that can't hit a fkn three is a reason.
And regarding Sabonis - if there is no one to pass to, what's the point of having a good passer.
The teams who won championships never won because of having a good shotblocker at 5.
It's because they score the fkng buckets.
Defense wins championships. Not just scoring.
@@valoruniversity So tell me the team that are famous for winning championships, and rely on a shotblocking center
You say that while the pacers are on a streak lok
Sacramento fans was bigging up their team pre-season with the Demar trade 🤣
I was definitely one of them, I knew it might not have been the easiest fit but I don’t think it’s Demar that’s the problem. The team as a whole doesn’t have that energy or belief it seems like they had in the 22-23 season
It’s not about demar goofy
@@Joefdgtr yep and everyone outside kings knew it was a bad fit
lol I’ll take the L on that. Still figured we would’ve added a defensive 4/5 that complimented Sabonis but nope. Oh well it’s over blow it up pray we get some value for fox, Sabonis
I was NOT one of them. Sacramento Kings have nowhere near a winning mindset. It doesnt matter who they bring. They need to fire everyone, coaching staff, trainers, janitors...EVERYONE. Nobody has that fire and hunger to win
I loved Demar on and off the court as a bulls fan but I knew this signing wasn’t moving a thing for them. He was much older and not the primary ball handler like he was for the bulls. Some players just don’t fit with certain teams. The bulls were mid but Demar was a good fit next to Coby, ayo, and AC. Chemistry plays a factor as well..
Bulls weren’t good with DeRozan either, a fringe playoff team in a weak eastern conference. Guards need to be able and willing to shoot 3s in today’s game, simple as that.
@ were better than that kings team. Better defense and more impactful players around Demar.
@@EyemProtected lol no they weren’t. Under .500 in a bad eastern conference, somehow still made the play in game. Demar doesn’t fit in the modern nba. Bulls had similar problems though, a bunch of guards surrounded by a solid big man. Vuc is nowhere near Sabonis’ level though.
Bulls young play players actually contributed with DeMar unlike the kings. Watch the games. I already mentioned we were mid but IMO we were a better team than what he’s on now. Top 5 in clutch games.. what about the kings? Two “clutch” players and can’t even finish out games against the damn pistons lol.
@ Fox and Monk aren’t contributing? The teams are basically the same- mid lottery disappointments that need big moves to balance.
they just need better players around fox and Sabonis. Murray has regressed and Demar doesn't fit. a 3 and D wing would help a lot. They need a retool not a rebuild.
Bro Fox is not that guy, he’s clearly a second option masquerading as a first option, that would be like trying to build a championship contender with kyrie as your centerpiece.
I respect when teams understand the best time to pivot towards redevelopment.
Harrison Barnes made them better with defensive and leadership.
I can totally agree on the title of the video.
Actually watching kings games you would see how much better sabonis has been on the defensive end this season. He has clamped guys like jokic and AD. Deaaron still is preforming like he does but he chucks up transition 3s so much and it hurts to watch the ball turn over sp quickly. We should have gotten rid of kevin heurter and trey lyles in the off season ans it makes no sense to have them on our roster. Personally at the moment I would bench demar and play keon ellis more. Keon’s playstyle perfectally meshes with the team (and is a great defender) but mike brown and doesn’t play him for some reason. We are also goving people like doug mcdermont, demar, trey lyles, and jordan mclauglin too much playtime. We haven’t changed this team that much at all since 2022, the problem is the players and coaches.
Kings were excited beating up lottery teams 😂😂
Notigang
I gave up on the Kings 3 years ago after 30 years of being a fan. Kings don't deserve me as a fan!! Small market teams are farm system teams. You don't matter. Kings will never ever win a Ring.
Maybe, just maybe they should have drafted Luka Doncic. Im no genius, but i feel like that could have helped them, especially considering M. Bagley isnt even playing on the team anymore.
Divac and his nationalistic politics
@nydibs what's super funny about that is V. Divac was asked about the trade at the end of last year and he said it's impossible to tell right now because Luka and Bagley are still playing. Thats a guy that won't admit he made a mistake. People would stop asking him about it if he just comes out and says it, but his pride won't let him do that.
Smartest thing the Kings can do at this point, is save that top 12 draft pick or better. If they get anything worse than a 12th pick, ATL will get it. And for what? A lost season anyways? MAYBE push for a play-in appearance?
Their draft pick from last season has been injured the entire time but I have faith Devin Carter is exactly what this roster needs, you add that with potentially a strong draft pick this upcoming off-season, the Kings could be strong. A few defensive pieces and they're rly good. I think they need to trade Demar though, they need a defensive minded, athletic 4 in that position, and put Keegan at the 3.
Fax He is not a leader, he is not a winner
8 years already damn
Move this team to Vancouver
As a Kings fan, I'm so disappointed with our management that I am considering switching teams. (Anyone have any recommendations?)
Mike Brown hasn't been playing Keon Ellis or Kevin Huerter nearly enough, as they both contribute on both ends, while DeMar is average offensively and horrible on defense.
We have no backup center, and Sabonis has been bad on offense and defense this season. Fox's numbers look down, but he seems to have stepped away on the offensive end, and it's really frustrating to watch as it's clear that he is our best scorer.
What we need to do is get rid of DeMar (in any way possible), and potentially fire Mike Brown. I think an underrated loss for the team was Jordi Fernandez going to the Nets, we just haven't been the same since. (Maybe we should steal Steve Nash from them and see if he can teach us to shoot free throws!)
Somehow our team has nobody playing their best basketball (Huerter and Keegan have been incredible except on threes, Fox needs to just do his thing more on offense), and no good draft picks (not that we were going to get anything good anyway). It's been a rough season, that's for sure.
I put up with the Kings for 30 years until I had enough of losing i switched to my 2nd favorite team with my favorite player Warriors!! I couldn't be happier. I've always liked Warriors players over the Kings for the past 30 years. Kings didn't deserve me as a fan!! Why be Loyal to a team that isn't Loyal to y you? Kings organization has always sucked. If a bad marriage doesn't work out, don't you leave them? Yes. If not be prepared to keep on losing.
I agree that Sabonis is really bad at shot blocking, but besides that, I don’t think he’s that much of a negative on defense. I think the issue with Sabonis on defense is that he’s under sized for a center (6’10 with a 6’11 wingspan) and he doesn’t have a very impressive vertical jump. But for a center he’s one of the most agile centers and he’s competent at contesting shots away from the rim. I kinda just think the kings need a stretch big kind of player (similar to a Brook Lopez) and that would fix a lot of the gaps in their defense. I think Sabonis is much more suited for guarding the 4 since he’s fast enough to keep up with forwards. And also the kings are 15th in defensive rating while being a top 10 offense. So I think the kings have played better this season than their record shows.
lol his agent is rich paul?...then you already know what time it is then.
Lol
Laker fans rubbing their hands together like Birdman 🤷🏾♂️...I'd actually prefer him on the Heat with his former college teammate😏
Get a girlfriend
Kings beat Celtics by 17 without fox. Also on a 6 game win streak. Dodging comments isn’t enough id recommend deleting the video.
Nah I think I’ll keep it. You’re acting like they’re suddenly a contender
@ i never said they were a contender. Just because you aren’t one of the best teams doesn’t mean you need to blow it up. You are a casual and don’t know ball.
Ah yes, the “casual and don’t know ball comment” classic. The Kings still aren’t very good. A nice streak in January doesn’t change the fact that they’re still mid. The roster has hit their ceiling and everyone sees it
@ if the shoe fits. If you blurred out kings no one would know what team you are talking about because a lot of the teams are in that same position. If you really think you have to be able to contend or blow it up why didn’t you mention over half the nba? You thought the kings were an actual 13-19 team because you don’t watch the games. Now you are calling them mid lmao. You cant make up your mind because you don’t know what you are talking about. Id still recommend deleting this video like when the other people who dont know ball had the same take and have had to delete their comments.
Are you new to basketball? Being mid is the worst place to be in the NBA, which is precisely why I’m saying they should blow it up and start fresh. How is that changing my mind? Did you even watch the video to understand the context? Or you just saw the title and got in your feelings? I’ve admitted on the channel when I’ve been wrong. A nice streak mid season doesn’t negate that they aren’t going anywhere or have gone anywhere for years
Commentary :"Mention Kevin Huerter havin a better season then expected." Vidoo : *Kevin Huerter bricks 3*
I was at the arena when Demar was introduced for the first time and he was sitting about 15 seats from Fox for an exhibition game. Zero chemistry. Fox looked like he didn’t want to be there
Fox was one of the main people who recruited DeRozen
I hope fox leaves . Sabonis is a horrible defensive anchor at centre. Fox is the only player on that kings starting 5 that plays good defence. Sabonis offers no rim protection , Murray plays no defense also. Would love to see him on the spurs. Him and Wemby would be an amazing duo to watch .
Fox a good defensive player? Thats a first
This got liked by And One Hoops? Jesus neither of you watch the Kings or can even read some analytics. Keegan Murray is the best defender on the team, is +/- is insane even with awful shooting this season, he's one of the best defenders in the league. Fox is great too. Sabonis is positive on defense as well, just isn't a shot blocker. Actually watch some ball, Kings defense is bad in ONE aspect, perimeter defense/the 3.
@@TheBestCASE 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 you are delusional. You are smoking crack if you actually believe Keegan Murray is the best defenders in the league . You clearly don’t watch the games, there is a reason why the are NOT in the playin. The kings have one of the worst point allowed numbers in the league.
murray can play d
Alex Len…. They are too cheap to pay for a good backup/ defensive center. Keegan is also not very good, he isn’t mikal or MPJ
Bring Fox home! 🤘🏾🤘🏾🚀🚀🚀🚀
Fox will get his 4th nba coach fired. At some point, like now, it ain't the gm or the owner or the coaching staffs or his teammates. FOX IS THE PROBLEM. HE'S THE FRANCHISE PLAYER. Supposedly he's the "SUPERSTAR." IT'S 8 YEARS.
Fox needs to look in the mirror and say HE'S THE PROBLEM. Get traded to another new team and be the 3rd option 😂 where he always belong.
Yeah, it’s sad seeing the front office continue to bet on Fox when he’s shown he isn’t willing to be the leader. Paying him a super max would be a mistake at this point.
Kings need center rim protector reb but if fox like trade i like the jaylen green package plus pick and young player like jabari smith or zion plus picks multiple 1st rounds picks and pick swaps
Sounds like fox to Houston next year for jalen green and picks
Sac radio personality the other day: If Fox leaves, this team implodes, and I'm leaving too. I'll go to Kxxx and someone else can cover this garbage-ass team.
Stop forcing Keagan into all the toughest defensive match ups and punishing him by pulling him if he misses when he gets aggressive.
Kings' D-Bo looking like Lakers' Westbrook 👀
The kings BEING this bad is funny to us bulls fans IYKYK 😂😂😂😂
2/3rds of the 2023-2024 roster is unplayable. After trading for Sabonis, they've made only negative moves. Yes, that includes Keon trash Ellis. You can make an argument Trey Lyles and Harrison Barnes are more effective on the Kings than Demar Derozan will be.
Say something 😂😂😂
When domas doesn’t play defense then he should be benched every time he stands there and watches some dunk on him make him sit.
How can you call Demar Derozan, "1 of the Greatest scorers of this generation" when the guy has No scoring titles in his career SMDH💯
Smarta$$ without the "smart" part.
He’s 6th on the all-time scoring list among active players with 24K points
@@And.One.Hoops1 Yea he average 25 ppg for a season only 3 times in his career and he is in his 16th season DUH he should have 24k points in his career bet has he won 1 scoring title.........I'll wait???
Who cares if he’s won a scoring title or not?
@And.One.Hoops1 I would think of he is one of thee greatest scorers of this generation i you said he would at least have 1 smh
deaaron fox to the Bulls? I wouldn't mind or nah?
you were saying clown?
They're still 11th in the west......
@@And.One.Hoops1 so we supposed to pretend like the difference between 6 and 11 isn't like 2-3 games?
say you don't watch basketball without saying you don't watch basketball.
So you think they have suddenly turned a corner are going to make a playoff push in the stacked west because they’re on a win streak in January?
Say you don’t watch basketball without saying you don’t watch basketball
@@And.One.Hoops1 i think "blow it up" after going 5-1 doesn't make a lot of sense
notice how you didn't address the fact that the diff between 5 and 11 is like 3 games, 8 and 11, it's like 1 game.
Well this aged horribly
They're 11th in the west
@ probably because of the bad start to the season? They are on a 5 game win streak. Two of them without fox
@ they are also 2.5 games back from 6th.
@@And.One.Hoops1they’re actually 9th now and moving up.
Honestly Harrison Barnes leaving killed them he was Mr everything and a total spark 💥 off the bench his numbers no where near great but his effort
I don't think Fox is a good fit for SAS. He isn't a great shooter or defender. He needs the ball to be effective. I'd rather have more 3 and D guys
Thy shouldn't have talk shit about pascal siakam when they want to trade for him
Trade Fox to Spurs for a young players and Spurs first round picks. Trade Sabonis young player and first round picks. Rozans for young talent and trade capital. Trade Monk for trade capital and try to capture the flag
Some way some how the lakers are going to get Fox for Bronny Jr. Klutch sports and their assistant Adam Silver is going to screw the Kings.
GET MY MAN DEMAR OUT OF THIS CLOWN FRANCHISE!!!
Send him to the Lakers, would be funny watching Demar sink them too.
@@deadtome44 Nahh madafaka, he is coming to DENVER to mopp LeFlop's ass in the first round😂
@@BeerAndJointsAllDay be careful what you wish for, LeBron own defrozen
They traded Buddy. They were fine before that.
Trade De’aaron Fox for LaMelo Ball. Fox and Miller backcourt duo on the Charlotte Hornets
Trade Fox. Get hella first round picks from San Antonio before February
All these fools y'all was saying better then JA has fallen off lol
Trade him to the Worriors for Steph and Kerr
Ximo 😢
Watching this as they just loss to the pistons
If a team isn't Loyal to you, why should you be Loyal to that team? I switched to the Warriors since they've always been my 2nd favorite team with my favorite player!! Made since to me. I hate the kings with a passion now!! Talk shi$ all you want, you lose, i win!!
Idk if they can get enough for Fox to retool. But he fasho leaving. Rich Paul already told us. 😂
Edit: Let the Pacers get Ellis and Murray doe
Who cares take his big baby momma with him!!!
If Kings blew up, Warriors should look to acquire Sabonis 👀
Sabonis not playing with Draymond 😂
Warriors should look to blow it up pal. Dynasty is over!
Oh yea ruin the Warriors lockeroom to make us worst, stupidest comment in a while!
Retire Draymond and problem solved.
@@rimantasandriukaitis2730retire Draymond and you go from a Top 5 defense to a bottom 5 defense, trust me
Trade Demar he is the reason. Too much standing around and watching him post up
Would love to see the dislike ratio 😅
98.3% likes
Kings are The NY Giants of the NBA; only one season with a surge under a new HC, then back to being poverty. Eliminating the Warriors in the play-in was their finals but hey, just keep lighting that beam😂😂😂
Wrong NY team. The Sacramento Kings are the New York Jets of the NBA.
Kings-Jets
Twolves are the browns
The Detroit lions are the magic
The lakers are the cowboys
The Celtics are the chiefs
Warriors are patriots
Bucks are ravens
Nuggets are rams
Clippers are Steelers
Bulls are colts since both mid
The Spurs are commanders
Thunder are eagles
Giants are like the nets or the wizards
Pelicans-Jaguars
Heat are the Eagles
Chargers are the 76ers
Giants are like the nets or the wizards
Pelicans-Jaguars
Heat are the Eagles
Chargers are the 76ers
Pistons are the panthers
Bro u don’t know nothing about basketball
Bro get a life
Says the guy who stalks and comments on all my video. Get a woman
U don’t even like women
Who do I stalk u have no life go touch some grass u haven’t touched grass since 2003
And one poops