I never understood why manufacturers would fit a feature that made the car infinitely more stealable - it's a giant step backwards in car security. Disable the feature and unlock your car by pressing the button on the fob. Problem solved.
Exactly and why the hell would you go on this dark web thing to find out this kind of stuff and other things unless you're up to no good, bloody simple really! 🙄
Do not test the pouch with Fob inside!! If fob is in pouch, you will get a malfunction message!!! on dash display.When you remove and start...message is gone..👌
I had the exact same one,It worked well for around 12 months,I recently checked it and it allowed me to gain access to my car so I guess it’s best to regularly check it’s working👍
If you read Amazon reviews this is the most common complaint - "It worked for XY months and now it doesn't shield anymore I can start the car without any problem" - many people say that. Maybe it would be worth a try to find out what's the reason. What happens to the pouch ?
I have a different faraday bag that I bought and it worked originally until it didn't. You could also just make your own like the one I show in our video. It's easy to make and has a magnetic closing lip. ua-cam.com/video/jfSe-xyQQzg/v-deo.html
@@telelaci2 That one is FLEXIBLE any metal will bend and BREAK over time. Since the protection is metal based. I suggest a box for at home it won't break. And something more rigid when away. And especially consider something for your credit cards with signals.
@@suzannehartmann946Yes Suzanne, it's logical what you are saying. But actually the pouch form would be the practical portable solution, small and flexible easy to use. A rigid and heavy metal box is a bit clumsy in your pocket, that would be perfect at home on your shelf. I think the problem is the material. It's advertised as carbon-fiber fabric. Carbon is not metal, either the carbon fiber. It can have some shielding capability, but not as good as the metal and it's capability disappears with time (?) The reason and the details are unknown at the moment (probably what you are saying, micro-cracking, micro-breaks), but it's still a fact. They should use metal fiber, maybe it's not so easy to work with, not so easy to sew it, but it's a material you can buy just like carbon-fiber. And here comes the Chinese trumpery effect. The Chinese manufacturers are very flexible, very effective, very conceited, they will offer you the most clever or funny things to use, and they react very quickly to the demands. They just don't focus on the details and the quality, they will flood the market with the same cr*p trumpery. You can buy this pouch from 1000 merchants but all of them will be faulty, and you can't buy even one where they fixed this design flaw. Quantity wins over quality. Simply you can't find a good pouch in the sea of cr*p pouches. OK, but you need a really good quality pouch, because your car or credit card is expensive, aren't they.
Using a simple push button car key fob I decide when the car will be open. With keyless tech the car decides. I recently bought an expensive Honda and hate the keyless tech. Buy an expensive car and have to buy an rfid pouch? And/or a biscuit tin? I won't buy another car with keyless.
Another tip...I have a 20 Tundra with pushbutton start. If you press lock button and simultaneously press unlock 🔑 twice on the FOB. This will shut the FOB down and will prolong battery life on FOB. I tried this and it works. I also have these pouches now.
I use this exact same pouch. I walk up to my car with the key fob in it. Sometimes it , Sometimes it works Sometimes doesn't. Won't stop the signal to my trunk though.
I just bought the same one you used for the video. At first I thought it didn't work until I realized, as you mentioned, that the key goes inside the silver lined compartment. Works brilliantly. One question: since you have to take the key out to open and start your vehicle (or to close it), does that provide a nearby thief enough opportunity to scan your key, and steal your car?
Thanks for the feedback. I'm glad it works for you. In my experience most of these thefts result from the amplification of the weak short range signal that your key always transmits. This is why this kind of theft happens so often outside your house at night. Your key is stationary, maybe sitting on a dining table, and the thief has all night to try and pick up the signal and amplify it. Much harder to do if you're with your vehicle or moving around, or far away from your vehicle. Most often done as a two man team. One working their way around your house trying to pick up and amplify the signal, the other next to the car with a device to pick the signal up. Keep it in the pouch when not in use (and any spares) and hopefully you will reduce your risk of theft. Hope that helps.
Actually, tin boxes don't always work. They will need additional shielding to be 100%. I tested this and it can be seen in our video here: ua-cam.com/video/tS1vJVcNMHc/v-deo.html
@@FrakkingCreations Depending on the thickness and tight fit of the tin box lid, some will work others may not. That`s why testing is important. Some may require additional shielding. Not all. Ours works just fine 100%.
Do you have a keyless entry system for your car? Do you use a faraday pouch to protect it? Or thought about buying one? Please comment below and let me know.
Am visiting South Africa and I will be hiring a car over there. I will get myself one of these pouches, but I'm still worried that the wise guys will come up to me and say "give me your car key from inside your faraday pouch, and oh while you're at it I will also need your cellphone and your wallet"
My one stopped working after thew months I drive alot so I guess due to wear and tear some metal inside I'm guessing aluminium got torn and started leaking the signal. Not very durable those things
It can be hit and miss with the quality of these items. Mine still works but a few people have said the same as you. I’d suggest another layer of protection while keeping the keys in your house. Like a faraday box. A bit overkill but more convenient than trying to recover a stolen car.
The microwave oven is a good faraday cage but it means leaving your keys in the kitchen and you have the risk of cooking then. Wrapping the keys/pouch in silver foil would work too.
A useful video, I've done my own research recently on finding my new (ish) car has keyless entry and it was interesting to find that some pouches are Sold Secure listed. I've opted for a Solon security Defender mini, inexpensive but effective. The material may wear in time so it will pay to check its effectiveness periodically.
I have a normal car key which opens and closes the door via remote control. But to start the engine I have to insert and start. So my question is do I need faraday pouch for my normal key?
These type of pouches are to protect key fobs that are always transmitting so you can unlock the car/start the engine with a button press. I’d say in your case a pouch isn’t needed as the car is immobilised without the key?
It’s probably quite a short range. A couple of metres maybe? Not sure. Problem is a device can be pressed against your window to capture and amplify the weak signal, and relay it to someone near the car.
I just purchased the exact same one. Tried it and did not work. My vehicle still unlocked with the key inside the pouch. Contacted the supplier and they had a few excuses but to their credit they are sending another one to me. Fingers crossed.
Your car won’t start with the key in pouch. It’s only to store the key while it is in the house. Or your pocket/bag. Take the key out when you want to use the car.
Mechanic shops can easily make copy and get your address from glove box registration and sell the info and duplicate key fob to thieves. No way to prevent a car from being stolen unless you own a ford pinto.
Do you put the key back inside of the pouch when the car is started and you're ready to take off or do you leave it out of the pouch until you get out and walk away?
I only use this at home. So the key goes straight into the pouch when I get inside the house. For me I’m trying to stop someone standing outside and trying to amplify the weak signal from my key, to unlock and start the car on my drive. You can of course take it with you and store your key in it when out shopping or at work if you wish.
Yes that’s true. But you are with your car and on the move. Someone would have to follow you at close range. In my experience this form of theft is most common when you’re parked up at home or somewhere else.
The thieves are driving the car with no key fob in it so you should be able to too. Obviously fob needs to be put in the RFID wallet after you start the car.
Wow, people finding so much problems using a simple bag for their overpriced, plastic shiny piece of junk, but they are happy to pay extra for the most stupid feature as far safety is concerned, problem is you ppl who dont appreciate the information thats being given,
Bought my car on Saturday and it was stolen Sunday. My last car was 22 years old. No fob, of course. Good ol’ old-fashioned keys. The dealer didn’t give me a lesson and I wasn’t through the manual yet!! Used the fob to lock the car at Walgreens. Was in the store 8 minutes (my car was up front next to the handicapped spot)it was already gone! Literally, they ran a stop sign nearly crashed into a neighbor who saw a man dressed in plain clothes but a ski mask on. So new I never heard of a faraday pouch either! I’m sick to my stomach. I’m losing at least $2000 because I put so much down I didnt get gap insurance.
The whole point in having a keyless entry fob is not to touch the key if it's in your bag, pocket. Would get on my nerves keep having put it in and out of pouch
It's better to take the key in and out the pouch than for a thief to stand in front of your house or apartment building with a fob reader, copy it, and then be able to steal your car. Your car missing would get on your nerves even more.
@@nycrudeboy4753 just put it in a biscuit tin, or one of those tins chocolates come with at Christmas. Something metal on all sides. It only needs to be put away when you're inside at home since that's when the thefts happen, while you're asleep and your key is sitting wherever you keep it.
Every single one,,will stop working after a while....Some fobs can be turned off...hold down the lock button and press the unlock twice..)the light should bllink twice..Wa-la...to turn it back on just press either one...
I know some credit card style keyless systems are always on. Also some manufacturers are building keys that ‘go to sleep’. And like you said, some fobs can be turned off.
@@TheReviewFella The "go to sleep" key FOBs only protect if you are at home. What if you are out away from home and are walking around. Relay attacks can be done on the go too like in this demo: ua-cam.com/video/bXfp8F4J2eI/v-deo.html
I've used this pouch to keep a spare key in the car for an emergency. However, now that it's cold, however 2 of my fob batteries have died recently and needed to be replaced. Has anyone else seen this?
Even if you do make a Faraday cage that protects your devices, you are still missing one key essential item that you will never get to make them truly worth investing time and money into. Preppers can't think far enough outside the box to realize what it is they are missing.
Keyless featured cars are for idiots who pay extra to get the keyless fub to be at a higher risk to have their cars stolen, there, no need to see if the pouch works or not
ments 144 Add a comment… @Cupat1 0 seconds ago Or just stick to an ordinary car with a simple bloody key fob and key to start it, honest to christ all this fancy stuff causes nothing but bloody hassle and grief
Product featured in this video: geni.us/ghHA9
Great, thank you.
I never understood why manufacturers would fit a feature that made the car infinitely more stealable - it's a giant step backwards in car security. Disable the feature and unlock your car by pressing the button on the fob. Problem solved.
I agree with you 100% and I'll sure do this👍🏾
Thanks! Maybe they realized that more cars stolen means more cars replaced...😅
It’s intentional by design
Exactly and why the hell would you go on this dark web thing to find out this kind of stuff and other things unless you're up to no good, bloody simple really! 🙄
Do not test the pouch with Fob inside!!
If fob is in pouch, you will get a malfunction
message!!! on dash display.When you remove
and start...message is gone..👌
I had the exact same one,It worked well for around 12 months,I recently checked it and it allowed me to gain access to my car so I guess it’s best to regularly check it’s working👍
That’s interesting. Yes it’s always worth checking these things on a regular basis. Thanks for taking the time to bring this to our attention.
If you read Amazon reviews this is the most common complaint - "It worked for XY months and now it doesn't shield anymore I can start the car without any problem" - many people say that. Maybe it would be worth a try to find out what's the reason. What happens to the pouch ?
I have a different faraday bag that I bought and it worked originally until it didn't. You could also just make your own like the one I show in our video. It's easy to make and has a magnetic closing lip. ua-cam.com/video/jfSe-xyQQzg/v-deo.html
@@telelaci2 That one is FLEXIBLE any metal will bend and BREAK over time. Since the protection is metal based. I suggest a box for at home it won't break. And something more rigid when away. And especially consider something for your credit cards with signals.
@@suzannehartmann946Yes Suzanne, it's logical what you are saying. But actually the pouch form would be the practical portable solution, small and flexible easy to use. A rigid and heavy metal box is a bit clumsy in your pocket, that would be perfect at home on your shelf. I think the problem is the material. It's advertised as carbon-fiber fabric. Carbon is not metal, either the carbon fiber. It can have some shielding capability, but not as good as the metal and it's capability disappears with time (?) The reason and the details are unknown at the moment (probably what you are saying, micro-cracking, micro-breaks), but it's still a fact. They should use metal fiber, maybe it's not so easy to work with, not so easy to sew it, but it's a material you can buy just like carbon-fiber. And here comes the Chinese trumpery effect. The Chinese manufacturers are very flexible, very effective, very conceited, they will offer you the most clever or funny things to use, and they react very quickly to the demands. They just don't focus on the details and the quality, they will flood the market with the same cr*p trumpery. You can buy this pouch from 1000 merchants but all of them will be faulty, and you can't buy even one where they fixed this design flaw. Quantity wins over quality. Simply you can't find a good pouch in the sea of cr*p pouches. OK, but you need a really good quality pouch, because your car or credit card is expensive, aren't they.
Don't forget to protect the spare key too
Absolutely. This is also mentioned in the video.
Put your cell phone in a Faraday bag, call it and see what happens? It ain't going to ring. So yeah Faraday is the way to go.
Using a simple push button car key fob I decide when the car will be open. With keyless tech the car decides. I recently bought an expensive Honda and hate the keyless tech. Buy an expensive car and have to buy an rfid pouch? And/or a biscuit tin? I won't buy another car with keyless.
It adds some convenience, but yes, also adds another level of risk unfortunately.
6 speed manual is a good deterrent 😂
There is still a likelihood that opportunistic thieves can still copy your key signal when you lock the car (even one second)
Possibly yes.
I have 2 of these exact pouches. I understand the protection fades over time, or only sometimes works. Silver foil is best
Sounds good to me.
Another tip...I have a 20 Tundra with pushbutton start. If you press lock button and simultaneously press unlock 🔑 twice on the FOB. This will shut the FOB down and will prolong battery life on FOB. I tried this and it works. I also have these pouches now.
Thanks.
Do you repeat the actions to re-activate the fob Mike?
@@lewis1544 Did you find an answer, Lewis?
It's will reactivate by pressing any button. This method will stop the radio signal. @@lewis1544
To reactivate the fob after you deactivated it, just press any button again.
I use this exact same pouch. I walk up to my car with the key fob in it. Sometimes it , Sometimes it works Sometimes doesn't. Won't stop the signal to my trunk though.
The quality of these is hit and miss.
I just bought the same one you used for the video. At first I thought it didn't work until I realized, as you mentioned, that the key goes inside the silver lined compartment. Works brilliantly.
One question: since you have to take the key out to open and start your vehicle (or to close it), does that provide a nearby thief enough opportunity to scan your key, and steal your car?
Thanks for the feedback. I'm glad it works for you. In my experience most of these thefts result from the amplification of the weak short range signal that your key always transmits. This is why this kind of theft happens so often outside your house at night. Your key is stationary, maybe sitting on a dining table, and the thief has all night to try and pick up the signal and amplify it. Much harder to do if you're with your vehicle or moving around, or far away from your vehicle. Most often done as a two man team. One working their way around your house trying to pick up and amplify the signal, the other next to the car with a device to pick the signal up. Keep it in the pouch when not in use (and any spares) and hopefully you will reduce your risk of theft. Hope that helps.
Oh my days 😂 me too 🙈
Thank you so much
I liked the part where you said test it. True not all are made with quality.
I just purchased the identical pouches found them on Amazon and they work perfectly. I think I paid $20 for two of them. It’s well worth the money.
a dollar store cookie tin also works. The kind you buy to put christmas cookies in. We just tested it! And cheaper as well.
With the added bonus of some yummy cookies!
Actually, tin boxes don't always work. They will need additional shielding to be 100%. I tested this and it can be seen in our video here: ua-cam.com/video/tS1vJVcNMHc/v-deo.html
@@FrakkingCreations Depending on the thickness and tight fit of the tin box lid, some will work others may not. That`s why testing is important. Some may require additional shielding. Not all. Ours works just fine 100%.
The things we do to protect ourselves from our species. smh. Thanks Steve
I thought using a RFID wallet or purse would work. But no luck。
The same one I use or did you try a different one?
Do you have a keyless entry system for your car? Do you use a faraday pouch to protect it? Or thought about buying one? Please comment below and let me know.
Don’t need one. My key fob shuts down after it’s been stationary for a minute.
I unlocked my uncle's tesla with a speaker magnet
Not heard that one before!
I have VERY BASIC lock-picking skills and so far I haven't met a wheel club that I couldn't open in
Good skills to have!
Am visiting South Africa and I will be hiring a car over there. I will get myself one of these pouches, but I'm still worried that the wise guys will come up to me and say "give me your car key from inside your faraday pouch, and oh while you're at it I will also need your cellphone and your wallet"
Always a risk. Good luck and safe journey.
My one stopped working after thew months I drive alot so I guess due to wear and tear some metal inside I'm guessing aluminium got torn and started leaking the signal. Not very durable those things
Thanks for your feedback.
Just make your own easily like in our video: ua-cam.com/video/jfSe-xyQQzg/v-deo.html
I've been using this since December and it worked for a while and then it stopped and I was able to start my car with the fob in the holder.
It can be hit and miss with the quality of these items. Mine still works but a few people have said the same as you. I’d suggest another layer of protection while keeping the keys in your house. Like a faraday box. A bit overkill but more convenient than trying to recover a stolen car.
@@TheReviewFella I have a box I'm not sure how secure it really is. Is there something else I can use with the box to add another layer of protection?
The microwave oven is a good faraday cage but it means leaving your keys in the kitchen and you have the risk of cooking then. Wrapping the keys/pouch in silver foil would work too.
Line the box with tin foil, just use brutac to hold it in place.
Is the pouch still working since you filmed this video?
Yes it is.
A useful video, I've done my own research recently on finding my new (ish) car has keyless entry and it was interesting to find that some pouches are Sold Secure listed. I've opted for a Solon security Defender mini, inexpensive but effective. The material may wear in time so it will pay to check its effectiveness periodically.
Sounds good. Thanks for the information.
I have a normal car key which opens and closes the door via remote control. But to start the engine I have to insert and start. So my question is do I need faraday pouch for my normal key?
These type of pouches are to protect key fobs that are always transmitting so you can unlock the car/start the engine with a button press. I’d say in your case a pouch isn’t needed as the car is immobilised without the key?
@@TheReviewFella thank you
@@TheReviewFella Thanks
Some times the signal still can get out make suer its all the way in.
does anybody know at what distance from the car , does the pouch with the key in it stop working at a certain distance away.
It’s probably quite a short range. A couple of metres maybe? Not sure. Problem is a device can be pressed against your window to capture and amplify the weak signal, and relay it to someone near the car.
Call me old fashioned, but a programmed key worked pretty good as a deterrent
Sure does.
Just received the same pouch but didn't get a second one and also it doesn't have the inner key chain. But still happy for the additional security.
There are many variants from different sellers. I hope it works well for you.
I just purchased the exact same one. Tried it and did not work. My vehicle still unlocked with the key inside the pouch. Contacted the supplier and they had a few excuses but to their credit they are sending another one to me. Fingers crossed.
Could be faulty. It worked great for me and still does.
Further to the Faraday Pouch, replacement arrived and working. Excellent service.
Great! Thanks for the update.
Now, I should have bought two as I have a spare set of keys I didn’t think about. Dah 😟 anyhoo I will sought that out.
I got one for my car it looks just like your one it didn’t work
Return it for a refund. Mine still works but I notice there are many that look similar.
Mine use to work, stopped working an now I got new one
How do i use the key? Do i remove it from the pouch first and once the door is open, i put key inside pouch?
Your car won’t start with the key in pouch. It’s only to store the key while it is in the house. Or your pocket/bag. Take the key out when you want to use the car.
What if I take the battery out of the car key fob when I'm at home?...
That would probably work too, but you might find it more convenient to drop the fob into a pouch or box.
Very helpful , thanks.
You’re welcome.
Mechanic shops can easily make copy and get your address from glove box registration and sell the info and duplicate key fob to thieves. No way to prevent a car from being stolen unless you own a ford pinto.
Does it require turning off the device for use of this bag?
No it blocks the signal from coming out, but if you can turn it off then that’s even better as your fob won’t emit a signal if turned off.
Okay thanks
Do you put the key back inside of the pouch when the car is started and you're ready to take off or do you leave it out of the pouch until you get out and walk away?
I only use this at home. So the key goes straight into the pouch when I get inside the house. For me I’m trying to stop someone standing outside and trying to amplify the weak signal from my key, to unlock and start the car on my drive. You can of course take it with you and store your key in it when out shopping or at work if you wish.
@@TheReviewFella Okay thank you, this is exactly what I do. I just got it. Thanks a lot!!!
You’re welcome.
The problem is...when you are driving your fob needs to be out of that pouch and transmit the signal..and the theif still gets your fob signal
Yes that’s true. But you are with your car and on the move. Someone would have to follow you at close range. In my experience this form of theft is most common when you’re parked up at home or somewhere else.
@@TheReviewFella Quite the diplomatic reply. I would have just called him an idiot.
The thieves are driving the car with no key fob in it so you should be able to too. Obviously fob needs to be put in the RFID wallet after you start the car.
Wow, people finding so much problems using a simple bag for their overpriced, plastic shiny piece of junk, but they are happy to pay extra for the most stupid feature as far safety is concerned, problem is you ppl who dont appreciate the information thats being given,
Might have been helpful if you would have actually tried to lock and unlock the vehicle with it in the pouch instead of just talking about it.
Agreed. It was one of my early videos and hopefully I’m getting a bit better now at producing interesting content.
I can pick a cheap a$$ China lock with any old key…….
Bought my car on Saturday and it was stolen Sunday. My last car was 22 years old. No fob, of course. Good ol’ old-fashioned keys. The dealer didn’t give me a lesson and I wasn’t through the manual yet!! Used the fob to lock the car at Walgreens. Was in the store 8 minutes (my car was up front next to the handicapped spot)it was already gone! Literally, they ran a stop sign nearly crashed into a neighbor who saw a man dressed in plain clothes but a ski mask on. So new I never heard of a faraday pouch either! I’m sick to my stomach. I’m losing at least $2000 because I put so much down I didnt get gap insurance.
Sorry to hear about your experience.
I have a 3008 with keyless entry, nice idea that. Where did you buy this? Thanks
Thank you. I’ve put a link in the description of the video to the one I bought. It works really well.
@@TheReviewFella thanks. I’ll be buying that. 👍
Just bought 2 from Ebay few days ago, they did not work.
I’d return them. Mine still work ok.
Had the same. Worked at first. Not u can open my car with key inside and closed. I couldn't dot hair before when firs bought
Are you having a stroke?
I got 2 of the same you got and they don't block sh*t.....
Mine work fine.
If it's crack, it's a trash.
Nice video!
Thank you, and thanks for taking the time to comment.
The whole point in having a keyless entry fob is not to touch the key if it's in your bag, pocket. Would get on my nerves keep having put it in and out of pouch
It's better to take the key in and out the pouch than for a thief to stand in front of your house or apartment building with a fob reader, copy it, and then be able to steal your car. Your car missing would get on your nerves even more.
@@nycrudeboy4753 just put it in a biscuit tin, or one of those tins chocolates come with at Christmas. Something metal on all sides. It only needs to be put away when you're inside at home since that's when the thefts happen, while you're asleep and your key is sitting wherever you keep it.
Every single one,,will stop working after a while....Some fobs can be turned off...hold down the lock button and press the unlock twice..)the light should bllink twice..Wa-la...to turn it back on just press either one...
I know some credit card style keyless systems are always on. Also some manufacturers are building keys that ‘go to sleep’. And like you said, some fobs can be turned off.
@@TheReviewFella The "go to sleep" key FOBs only protect if you are at home. What if you are out away from home and are walking around. Relay attacks can be done on the go too like in this demo: ua-cam.com/video/bXfp8F4J2eI/v-deo.html
It's "voilà!" It's a French word. "Wa-la" is phonetic toddler gibberish.
I wonder if it would be feasible to build an on/off switch into these keys? Then no faraday cage required.
Some do have that, and yes that works just as well, as long as you remember to turn it off.
I've used this pouch to keep a spare key in the car for an emergency. However, now that it's cold, however 2 of my fob batteries have died recently and needed to be replaced. Has anyone else seen this?
Even if you do make a Faraday cage that protects your devices, you are still missing one key essential item that you will never get to make them truly worth investing time and money into.
Preppers can't think far enough outside the box to realize what it is they are missing.
EMP cloth?
No.@@TheReviewFella
You talked to much just keeo it easy and simple kust show if it work or not no need to talk 4 min long..
I’m happy with the length of the video.
Keyless featured cars are for idiots who pay extra to get the keyless fub to be at a higher risk to have their cars stolen, there, no need to see if the pouch works or not
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Or just stick to an ordinary car with a simple bloody key fob and key to start it, honest to christ all this fancy stuff causes nothing but bloody hassle and grief
I use a biscuit tin and works well.
Mmmm biscuits.🍪