Despite Edgar's scattered instrumental talents and associations it was Dan Hartman who caught my ear. Free Ride, Autumn,Round & Round,Instant Replay and I Can Dream About You..."They Only Come Out At Night" is in my top 25 albums list.Other than the radio smashes the rest of the album is a mix of feels, multi-talents and styles.And it sounds really great!
They Only Come Out At Night has been one of my favorites since the first time that I heard it. My 2 favorites from the album are Just Hanging Around and Undercover Man.
Everybody that played in The Edgar Winter Group were great musicians. Dan Hartman brought great vocals and some great songs to the band. He later went on to write and produce a lot of Dance music and more Pop oriented music.
Great video! I saw Edgar in the seventies with Rick Derringer and they were fantastic! I also met Ronnie Montrose after he played. What a talented and nice man. He treated me like a fellow musician. They were all part of a great era!
Check out Edgar's sax solo on Todd rundgren's LP initiation. On the song fair warning. One of the best sax solos you'll hear anywhere and for that matter one of the best songs you'll ever hear❤
Playboy magazine voted him best jazz saxophonist many years back. I heard his group in Vancouver BC sometime around 1971, Ronny Montrose was guitarist at that time - awesome concert including Eagles and Yes.
One of my all-time favorite albums. I had the privilege of seeing there show a couple of times seeing them play Frankenstein live was fantastic to bad they never released a live album from those days some of the songs the Edgar Winter Group would play at the shows were White Trash songs
You certainly gave a nice bio of the many people Edgar Winter collaborated with . Edgar Winter's talent is among the finest of the music entertainment industry . I believe at one time I thought to seeing him playing saxophone in Wayne Newton's band ?
Rick Derringer's first fame came with the group "The McCoys" and the hit Hang on Sloopy'. Check out "Johnny Winter And" live for some awesome guitar work from Rick.
Saw EWG on UK television “Old Grey Whistle Test” playing a set that finished with “Frankenstein”. The performance was pure energy, with the whole band seeming to enjoy their first exposure on British TV. Bob Harris, the show’s presenter, who would usually talk after the band finished, was almost speechless, his only comment “amazing”. Praise indeed.
Added detail: Blue Sky records was owned by Steve Paul, one-time owner of the Scene Club in NYC, later manager of Johnny, Edgar, and many other acts. The label issued two great albums by Muddy Waters, one by Howlin' Wolf, two by David Johansen, and a few other nice choices. Great video. Thanks!
My friend was a photographer who took pictures of music giants before he came to work at Corning/ world kitchen. He knew the Winter brothers and his friend played drums for them.
I just saw Edger with Ringo this year. Back in the early 70's I was dating a girl. She had ticket to see some group called Montros. We went out parking and sparking instead. We got back to town my friends are going on about how great they were. Oh and they had some singer name Sammy Hagar!
Ya got it wrong about Edgar a Child Prodigy, his mother was a pianist who taught him how to play the keyboard. His brother Johnny helped him to get a contract with Epic Records in New York. His hit song Keep Playing That Rock and Roll lyrics explains on his album They Only Come Out At Night along with his classic hits Frankenstein and Free Ride. In 1975 they're last album as a group was The Edgar Winter Group with Rick Derringer recorded on Blue sky Records, with slumping sales of that album and Jasmine Night dream's it was then when the band broke up, it was a mutual agreement everyone wanted to pursue other projects, but their last live concert was in San Diego, Ca titled Edgar and Johnny Winter Live in the year of 1976.
White Trash took on the elements of the Gulf Coast roadhouse sound, gritty soul and blues dance music. All the musicians were veterans of the Golden Triangle area, and their music defined the '60's & early '70's in coastal Texas and Louisiana. The "White Trash" studio album, featuring Jerry LaCroix's growling, heavily gospel influenced vocals, was a classic in its genre and an all-time great album. There is a cameo by Johnny in "I've Got News for You", and by Rick Derringer in "Keep Playing that Rock and Roll."
I'll never forget my mother taking me to Madison Garden in 1973 to see the Edgar Winter group during his time doing FRANKENSTEIN !! I also remember seeing Johnny Winter around the sane time at the Garden doing the Still Alive and Well tour!! I remember going to see Edgar in 1973 at the Shafer Music festival in Central Park and J. Giles was sitting in for Ronnine Montrose that night!!
A few years back I was at a guitar show in Fort Worth, Tx and as I was in the men's room and while taking a leak I turned to my right momentarily and to my shock Rick Derringer was taking a leak in the urinal next to me 🤣 Of course I waited for him outside the men's room to get a pic with him
he hardly ever plays any of the tunes on this album. he takes up half of his show doing "tobacco road". it's a real shame when he has so many other good song from TOCOAN and shock treatment.
I went to see Edgar Winter perform at The Midnight Cowboy in Waco TX. 20ish yrs ago and when I lived in Hollywood CA I stopped in Green Hell Record Store and found a Frankenstein 12 inch Single and Edgar had words to the song Frankenstein, and in Waco , I asked him to sing the words to Frankenstein and he did ,, fantastic . Last time I saw Johnny was at the Hollywood Palace across from Capital Records . Montrose was my friend
OMG the same narrator from Trower. One time I saw a tv appearance of EWG in 74/75 and a different guitarist was playing. I found out it was Jerry Weems. I saw EWG Shock Treatment tour. Even had the record store display ( like the cover)
for me a die-hard fan of Edgar Winter group it was not the same after the blue album ( 1975) , it was not the ''group'' anymore , no Derringer, Hartman and Ruff ....it was less rock and the songwriting was so/so at times even the music style was changed at times ....anyway, Derringer was gone to make his solo career....
I saw the edgar winter group in the gym at S.U.N.Y. Delhi , New York before " they only come out at night" appeared. They were a quintet. Dan hartman and ronnie montrose on guitars. Randy hobbs on bass. The power went out at one point. I was standing directly below dan hartman and he said: " we can play acoustically for you. ". As his hand raked across the strings of his white stratocaster.
How it TODD'S name (see what I did there?😁) could you have skipped right over Todd Rundgren's 1975 *"Initiation"* LP without so much as an honorable mention? Todd's album boasts of not only Edgar Winter on saxophone but also Rick Derringer on guitar & bass, & even included Dan Hartman on bass.. all THREE former E.W.G. alumni!!
My 1st-ever concert: The Edgar Winter Group with Rick Derringer. Most of THEY ONLY COME AT AT NIGHT + some White Trash ("Tobacco Road", "Keep Playing That Rock and Roll") and Rick Derringer solo material ("Rock 'n' Roll, Hootchie Coo", "Teenage Love Affair"). Right up front of Derringer and his Explorer. Hartman, at times, sported a doubleneck bass/guitar (used on "Free Ride").
6:27 Too bad you didn't show the entire picture of Dan Hartman's "Space Bass"...it is literally connected to his body. Hartman's body is the body of the bass. ;-)
Edgar is extremely talented in a number of musical styles, but I've always felt that he would spread himself too thin. Had he picked a more specific musical style (Like Johnny did with the blues) instead of dabbling with this and that he would have probably had more success in the long run.
This is true. If he's happy with what he has done that should be success enough. I was merely talking about it from a business success/popularity angle. @@jeffking4176
you really sold Dan Hartman short just saying he worked with 'other artists'. Those 'other artists' included Stevie Wonder, James Brown, David Johansson, Chaka Khan, Diana Ross, Little Richard and many more prominent artists. Give credit where credit is due.
true but even that wasn't as big as "Living In America" the song he gave James Brown. If he had hung around he would have been one of the biggest producers ever.@@vermontbred
They also skipped over the fact that Rick Derringer was a member of "Johnny Winter And." Or that Bobby Ramirez (drums) for Edgar Winter And The White Trash was stabbed dead outside of a gig after arguing with some guy about his long hair.
:Shock Treatment" is one of the best albums I've ever heard, spirited and diverse. But I was very disappointed with the third album, it was flat and uninspired.
very true. And to prove that a paid gig is a paid gig, Edgar also sang in an animated cartoon. If I recall, the cartoon was part of the "Happily Ever After" series or something similar.@@rickfletcher4907
RIVER'S RISIN was a TOP 40 Hit off of Shock Treatment. The Album also went GOLD. I have the RIAA Gold Record presented to the Record Plant. Love when people dont get their facts straight.
Despite Edgar's scattered instrumental talents and associations it was Dan Hartman who caught my ear. Free Ride, Autumn,Round & Round,Instant Replay and I Can Dream About You..."They Only Come Out At Night" is in my top 25 albums list.Other than the radio smashes the rest of the album is a mix of feels, multi-talents and styles.And it sounds really great!
Only in recent years did I learn how successful Dan was outside of his solo hit "I can dream about you"
Yeah and only the Winter brothers had the talent to pull it off. Nobody else could.
They Only Come Out At Night has been one of my favorites since the first time that I heard it. My 2 favorites from the album are Just Hanging Around and Undercover Man.
Not hard to catch a tin ear I suppose.
Everybody that played in The Edgar Winter Group were great musicians. Dan Hartman brought great vocals and some great songs to the band. He later went on to write and produce a lot of Dance music and more Pop oriented music.
I still remember seeing the Edgar Winter Group on Don Kirschner's ln Concert series in the mid 70s- amazing performance.
Edgar is a mad scientist
We seen Edgar on a Rock Legends Cruise a couple of years ago. We met briefly for a photo op and it was a nice experience. His shows were great.
Great video! I saw Edgar in the seventies with Rick Derringer and they were fantastic! I also met Ronnie Montrose after he played. What a talented and nice man. He treated me like a fellow musician. They were all part of a great era!
Cool!
Thank you for not being an AI narrator! Nice work, human.
Loved the Shock Treatment album. Great overlooked album
Chuck Ruff and I were in contact by email until his sad demise. A lovely guy.
This was very informative . Edgar winter white trashes road work album is the best live album ever . What a spectacular band
Glad you enjoyed it
Check out Edgar's sax solo on Todd rundgren's LP initiation. On the song fair warning. One of the best sax solos you'll hear anywhere and for that matter one of the best songs you'll ever hear❤
Playboy magazine voted him best jazz saxophonist many years back. I heard his group in Vancouver BC sometime around 1971, Ronny Montrose was guitarist at that time - awesome concert including Eagles and Yes.
One of my all-time favorite albums. I had the privilege of seeing there show a couple of times seeing them play Frankenstein live was fantastic to bad they never released a live album from those days some of the songs the Edgar Winter Group would play at the shows were White Trash songs
You certainly gave a nice bio of the many people Edgar Winter collaborated with . Edgar Winter's talent is among the finest of the music entertainment industry . I believe at one time I thought to seeing him playing saxophone in Wayne Newton's band ?
Rick Derringer's first fame came with the group "The McCoys" and the hit Hang on Sloopy'. Check out "Johnny Winter And" live for some awesome guitar work from Rick.
Saw The Edgar Winter Group at the Memorial Day Jam 1980 Lebanon Valley Speedway, New York. The Outlaws and Molly Hatchet also played. Great concert.
Saw EWG on UK television “Old Grey Whistle Test” playing a set that finished with “Frankenstein”. The performance was pure energy, with the whole band seeming to enjoy their first exposure on British TV. Bob Harris, the show’s presenter, who would usually talk after the band finished, was almost speechless, his only comment “amazing”. Praise indeed.
Added detail: Blue Sky records was owned by Steve Paul, one-time owner of the Scene Club in NYC, later manager of Johnny, Edgar, and many other acts. The label issued two great albums by Muddy Waters, one by Howlin' Wolf, two by David Johansen, and a few other nice choices.
Great video. Thanks!
i seen him a few times..early 70s and 90s at a small vemue in richmond va
My late older brother got me into this group just love someone take my heart away.
Edgar played the sax solo on Tina Turner's Simply the Best...
My friend was a photographer who took pictures of music giants before he came to work at Corning/ world kitchen. He knew the Winter brothers and his friend played drums for them.
I just saw Edger with Ringo this year. Back in the early 70's I was dating a girl. She had ticket to see some group called Montros. We went out parking and sparking instead. We got back to town my friends are going on about how great they were. Oh and they had some singer name Sammy Hagar!
I saw them live twice. Tremendous show both times.
Ya got it wrong about Edgar a Child Prodigy, his mother was a pianist who taught him how to play the keyboard. His brother Johnny helped him to get a contract with Epic Records in New York. His hit song Keep Playing That Rock and Roll lyrics explains on his album They Only Come Out At Night along with his classic hits Frankenstein and Free Ride. In 1975 they're last album as a group was The Edgar Winter Group with Rick Derringer recorded on Blue sky Records, with slumping sales of that album and Jasmine Night dream's it was then when the band broke up, it was a mutual agreement everyone wanted to pursue other projects, but their last live concert was in San Diego, Ca titled Edgar and Johnny Winter Live in the year of 1976.
White Trash took on the elements of the Gulf Coast roadhouse sound, gritty soul and blues dance music. All the musicians were veterans of the Golden Triangle area, and their music defined the '60's & early '70's in coastal Texas and Louisiana. The "White Trash" studio album, featuring Jerry LaCroix's growling, heavily gospel influenced vocals, was a classic in its genre and an all-time great album. There is a cameo by Johnny in "I've Got News for You", and by Rick Derringer in "Keep Playing that Rock and Roll."
Almost all of this is a revelation to me! Much past Frankenstein he fell off (my) radar. 🤷♂️ I learned a lot, here! Thanks;)
I'll never forget my mother taking me to Madison Garden in 1973 to see the Edgar Winter group during his time doing FRANKENSTEIN !!
I also remember seeing Johnny Winter around the sane time at the Garden doing the Still Alive and Well tour!!
I remember going to see Edgar in 1973 at the Shafer Music festival in Central Park and J. Giles was sitting in for Ronnine Montrose that night!!
what a band !!
Winter brothers were talented musicians ..
RIP Johnny....you were the best.
A few years back I was at a guitar show in Fort Worth, Tx and as I was in the men's room and while taking a leak I turned to my right momentarily and to my shock Rick Derringer was taking a leak in the urinal next to me 🤣 Of course I waited for him outside the men's room to get a pic with him
I envy Edgar's talents.
I played the grooves put of They Only Come Out At Night. AMAZING!
he hardly ever plays any of the tunes on this album. he takes up half of his show doing "tobacco road". it's a real shame when he has so many other good song from TOCOAN and shock treatment.
Good job on this.... Thanx.
Glad you enjoyed it!
My two all-time favorite Edgar Winter tunes Frankenstein and save the Planet. Which one of the bands I played with in the 70's covered.
I went to see Edgar Winter perform at The Midnight Cowboy in Waco TX. 20ish yrs ago and when I lived in Hollywood CA I stopped in Green Hell Record Store and found a Frankenstein 12 inch Single and Edgar had words to the song Frankenstein, and in Waco , I asked him to sing the words to Frankenstein and he did ,, fantastic . Last time I saw Johnny was at the Hollywood Palace across from Capital Records . Montrose was my friend
How about “ what happened to White Trash ?” The funkiest bar band evah !!
Saw Edgar very good, wish l could have seen Johnny, from what l hear Janis was from there , l heard Johnny and Janis dated in High School .
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Edgar got a grammy for 'Brother Johnny'. Big fact to mention. First grammy awards I've watched in 40 years and ONLY Edgars grammy acceptance speech.
Very interesting video 👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Glad you think so!
Edgar still tours!
Very interesting video!
Glad you think so!
OMG the same narrator from Trower. One time I saw a tv appearance of EWG in 74/75 and a different guitarist was playing. I found out it was Jerry Weems. I saw EWG Shock Treatment tour. Even had the record store display ( like the cover)
His album was called the Progressive Blues Experiment!! not experience..
That time he did that solo album years later for that cult leader of scientology
for me a die-hard fan of Edgar Winter group it was not the same after the blue album ( 1975) , it was not the ''group'' anymore , no Derringer, Hartman and Ruff ....it was less rock and the songwriting was so/so at times even the music style was changed at times ....anyway, Derringer was gone to make his solo career....
I saw the edgar winter group in the gym at S.U.N.Y. Delhi , New York before " they only come out at night" appeared. They were a quintet. Dan hartman and ronnie montrose on guitars. Randy hobbs on bass. The power went out at one point. I was standing directly below dan hartman and he said: " we can play acoustically for you. ". As his hand raked across the strings of his white stratocaster.
How it TODD'S name (see what I did there?😁) could you have skipped right over Todd Rundgren's 1975 *"Initiation"* LP without so much as an honorable mention? Todd's album boasts of not only Edgar Winter on saxophone but also Rick Derringer on guitar & bass, & even included Dan Hartman on bass.. all THREE former E.W.G. alumni!!
Chuck Ruff, local Reno Boy!!
Really good group bio. Thank you.
Thank you too!
I'm going to put this on pause; gotta do my laundry.
Chuck has a friend from Las Vegas that played guitar for a short time in the EWG. More info on him?
My 1st-ever concert: The Edgar Winter Group with Rick Derringer. Most of THEY ONLY COME AT AT NIGHT + some White Trash ("Tobacco Road", "Keep Playing That Rock and Roll") and Rick Derringer solo material ("Rock 'n' Roll, Hootchie Coo", "Teenage Love Affair").
Right up front of Derringer and his Explorer. Hartman, at times, sported a doubleneck bass/guitar (used on "Free Ride").
Wow, that's a stellar line up. Much better than my first live show. (Commander Cody)lol.
@@leomannpictures Commander Cody is cool!
6:27 Too bad you didn't show the entire picture of Dan Hartman's "Space Bass"...it is literally connected to his body. Hartman's body is the body of the bass. ;-)
Edgar is extremely talented in a number of musical styles, but I've always felt that he would spread himself too thin. Had he picked a more specific musical style (Like Johnny did with the blues) instead of dabbling with this and that he would have probably had more success in the long run.
I guess it all depends on the definition of “success “.
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This is true. If he's happy with what he has done that should be success enough. I was merely talking about it from a business success/popularity angle. @@jeffking4176
you really sold Dan Hartman short just saying he worked with 'other artists'. Those 'other artists' included Stevie Wonder, James Brown, David Johansson, Chaka Khan, Diana Ross, Little Richard and many more prominent artists. Give credit where credit is due.
had his own hit, "I can dream about you."
@@vermontbred ...and a Disco-era hit, "Instant Replay". I remember seeing Hartman on SOUL TRAIN, too.
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I think Vinnie Vincent plays guitar on Instant Replay, later of Kiss fame for about ten minutes. @@jazzpunk
@@vermontbred Wow. You never should underestimate any musician, right?
true but even that wasn't as big as "Living In America" the song he gave James Brown. If he had hung around he would have been one of the biggest producers ever.@@vermontbred
i SAW HIM OPEN FOR ALICE COOPPER AND DEEP PURPLE A FEW YEARS AGO AND IN MY OPINION HE STLOED THE SHOW.
Well done!!!
Here’s what happened… they broke up.
Derringer played in Cyndi Lauper's touring band for a while.
This band is hot😊😊😊😊
Sorry but the narrator's voice drags on like a bad experience, can't get through it all..
The narrator's voice binds us all together. Treat it as something to behold. If not him, who else? Don Lafontaine?
I think it was the Texas Blues Experiment, not "experience".
you didn't mention Rick's other band the McCoys and hang on sloopy
They also skipped over the fact that Rick Derringer was a member of "Johnny Winter And."
Or that Bobby Ramirez (drums) for Edgar Winter And The White Trash was stabbed dead outside of a gig after arguing with some guy about his long hair.
Transparent humans matter
What happened to Black Oak Arkansas
What Happened to Black Oak Arkansas?
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Did Edgar learn how to read music?
Please pay attention to your soundtrack. Dates & titles are often incorrect. Do it right or don’t do it.
Don't mess with artistic license. This poor man is just doing the best he can.
:Shock Treatment" is one of the best albums I've ever heard, spirited and diverse. But I was very disappointed with the third album, it was flat and uninspired.
It was terrible.
the only song I really liked was "J.A.P. (just another punk)".@@anthonymcdibble9496
Free Bride? Right
*whisper* They got old.
Older, not old...it's everyone's choice (most don't realize)!
Experiment,please get it right!!!
nothing Edgar still has a group.
I was really surprised Edgar played on some of Dan's disco records, Edgar didn't seem to be the disco type.
@@TooSkinnyKennyfriends do that for each other. Besides, A paid gig is a paid gig.
very true. And to prove that a paid gig is a paid gig, Edgar also sang in an animated cartoon. If I recall, the cartoon was part of the "Happily Ever After" series or something similar.@@rickfletcher4907
RIVER'S RISIN was a TOP 40 Hit off of Shock Treatment. The Album also went GOLD. I have the RIAA Gold Record presented to the Record Plant. Love when people dont get their facts straight.
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You can’t think of Tupac without thinking of Edgar Winter. 🤷🏻♂️
nothing daaa
Question: What happened to the edgar winter group????
Answer: Summer came.
Hmm, imagine a collaboration of Edgar Winter & Donna Summer! They could’ve called it “Summer Days & Winter Nights” or something corny like that.
They stayed out of the sun.
Here’s what happened… they broke up.