15F Punishers Ranked WORST to BEST | Data Comparison | TEKKEN 8
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- Опубліковано 31 лип 2024
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In this series, we're answering the unanswered question of who has the best punishment in TEKKEN 8. This is the third instalment, where we'll be collecting and comparing to find who has the best 15 frame punishers. Hope you enjoy!
Timestamps:
00:00 - Intro
00:14 - Rankings
02:23 - Top 10
Music:
TEKKEN 7 OST - Souq - Ігри
important to note that leroy's 15f punish rotates the opponent to face leroy directly, meaning leroy does not have to do a different combo and sacrifice damage if he were to sidewalk an opponent and launch them.
for Jun db1 1 1+2 is probably better more dmg and heals also triggers wall breaks
How many Jun's have you fought that made you think THAT was her best 15f punish?
I found it a little funny the video opens with that example lol
Mistake at the end, Claudio's i15 launcher is df1,2 not df2,1.
The bear's 15f launcher is arguably the best 15f punish considering the range it has. Bears can launch punish moves that others struggle to. Jack's atlus hammer? Kazuya's new string? No problem
Confused on why Shaheen’s hop kick is so much lower compared to Claudio seeing as it’s the same move, albeit Claudio out ranges by a measly .01. Shaheen should be 2nd here imo
true i am a claudio main myself
I think it's an overall character ranking. Claudio's df1,2 is much better than shaheens other option
@@alexonstott4954 that’s not the move I’m talking about. Also, please explain how df1,2 is better than a low crushing hop kick, which they both have and it has the same range
@@SebuKazhalf the cast has a low crushing hop kick. Claudio is better because df1,2 is much better than Shaheen df2
Nina's b1+4 is underrated. It leads to the highest damage at i15 among the whole cast (95 dmg in open space without rage, heat or walls). Plus it has big range and launches crouching opponents.
Another guide let’s go ❤
Cant believe I have to qualify this but I've seen people yapping in the comments...It's a punishment tierlist.
How safe the move is doesn't matter, just the range and the reward, damage / oki.
Also, some launchers were shown in prior iterations of this series, this is strictly i15, go watch them.
Though Jun's i15 punish is db1,1,1+2*
Werent electrics shown at 14f ? Am i tripping ?
@Gorecatto Ah yes my mistake I forgot!
While that is a completely true argument, I still kinda think having a safe launcher is important. You're not always going to react to every move on time or there are times when the game takes your input late due to lag or whatever, especially when you've guarded moves that are hard to perfectly react like Leroy's ff2,2 or Jin's samsara. I would also consider ease of use as well.
Like dvj's 15 launcher for example, here it's number 2 on the list but the fact that it's a move with a down command(which isn't usual for a 15f launcher) and the fact that it's death sentence on block, most people don't usually think about it constantly, making it slower to use reactively. I think, psychologically, having a safer and easier-to-use move would make you think about it more and thus make it more reliable to be used on reaction.
Including what you've said, I think the video is pretty pointless when it comes to practicality and in-game usefulness. Also, the factors that were considered in the rankings were really vague and lacked explanation(I understand he wanted the video to be short and simple). That's why I think people are really critical in the comments.
Personally, I also have gripes such as how is Lee worse than Feng, how is Victor only 15th on the rankings, and while I get that combo damage wasn't a factor what's the point of having good damage if the combo route is so limited and leads to having very poor combo.
Only d/f+4,4,3 is guaranteed for Raven. f,f+4 only hits if the opponent moves on the ground.
Yeah I was wondering why he didn’t just complete the string
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Yoshimitsu hopkick goes over mids and high. Def top 5
People dont realize Xiaoyu has really good punishments
Get your key input display corrected...the command direction input of 2 hit 15f launcher is correct...but the 2nd hit key is displayed first. Rest of the vid is great...keep it up 👍😊
Wouldn't have thought Leroy's would be that good?
I get that electric is impractical as a punish, but jet upper is bufferable ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ so you’d think it counts. These picks feel pretty arbitrary.
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Honestly the important information here is highest damaging punisher for i15, not specifically i15.
Also the next important parameters are range of the punisher, ammount of hits before combo, the way in which it launches them and following combo routes.
None of this has been factored in, making the video pointless outside of showing which chars don't have i15 launcher.
Lee's acid storm has really good range
I think it's top10
Kazuya needs a 15 frame launcher and I know that EWGF exists, but in online matches it is hard to punish with EWGF
They haven't given him an easy 15 frame punish for well over 4 Tekken titles. It's pretty much a part of the characters identity. He is notoriously execution heavy.
anti-Alisa guide please 🥺🥺
I don't get any of the ranking at all tbh. What "stats" are taken into account? How is Shaheen low tier when Claudio is up high, when their hopkicks are the same range? Why is Nina in top 10 when her df2 is stubby and b1+4 is 2 hits? How does that make her i15 punish better than Lee's? His are just as short ranged.
Please make anti Alisa video 🙏
that jun punishment is wrong lol
Raven has f4 > ff2
these comments make it obvious how bad reading comprehension is in the US.
Half of these should not connect
How shaheen and lee are that low?
Lees f333 ia probably most conaistant i15 punish in the game
Your videos dont make sense
Reina can do df3,2 to access wind god fist without execution for punishment, in heat it's a true electric, it's very conssistent so imo she should be higher
Technically she (and kazuya) could be in first place in 13f punishers
But he did said that didnt want to consider combo damage, just mostly the range
it's not i15
I'm sorry but this list is horrible & you missed some too.
Nonsense. Yoshimitsu was ranked 13th, yet has maybe the best df2 in the game, because it's safe (-7 ob) and launches crouching opponents on CH or on hit +4s~+5s. I don't know of any other safe df2 that can launch crouching.
And others, like Paul's, are good for their evasive properties. Yet Devil Jin is ranked 2nd despite having none of this?
It doesnt launch crouching, also this video is for punishment and not application (evasion and safety)
Leroy's df2 is i16
nuh uh, max range
@@hunters.hideoutOh, I see, thanks
I personally think yoshimitsu has the best 15f with his df2. It dodges high attacks like jabs and is safe at -7 if blocked!
Remember, he's talking about it as a 15f punisher, not just as a 15f launcher. I think range is a big factor here, since Jin and Devil Jins cancan are really shit moves to just throw out, but as punishers they have great range and lead to 90+ combo dmg routes.
Paul, Hwoarang, Lee, Shaheen, Law, Nina, with the same df2, lookin at this comment like 👀
@@Dr.Happy11 theirs do not duck highs
@@riceyboi7069 is that why Claudio was ranked no.1? Cause of the range of both the 15f?
@@enerdgeticu They do jab crush, similarly to Yoshi's.
How is djin so high? His d3+4 is death on block
its block punshment, but it still doesnt make sense since the actual combos are what matters and not launcher damage.
On block. This is hit ranking, and dvj blows up armor with d3+4
@@marioster2 its Punishers. that means you are guaranteed to land the attack as the enemy recovers.
If you use it as a punisher and your opponent blocks it, you're the bottom tier not DJs cancan mlao
@@Dr.Happy11 Oh youre right! Every punisher could be -100 on block and it wouldnt change anything. Youre genius
Why is xiaoyu in 6th place? There many 15f launchers more better and safer than hers
It's a punishment tierlist.
How safe the move is doesn't matter, just the range and the reward, damage / oki.
@@ChayBenji oh i see
Reina shouldn’t have df2. Learn to electric, you lazies
Meanwhile, they took Devil Jin's CH df+2 from him...