The Citröen C6 Was an Ultra-Quirky French Luxury Sedan
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Citröen C6 review! The Citröen C6 was a French luxury sedan -- and a very unusual one. Today I'm reviewing the C6, and I'm going to show you all the quirks and features of the unusual Citroen C6. I'm also going to drive the C6 and show you what it's like behind the wheel of this unusual car.
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Dude you've missed a lot of cool options when you talked for this car. The head lights are turning when you are turning the wheel. There is a sport mode for the suspension if you don't want to roll so much. When you gain speed the car automatically become more stable and the wheel - more direct. There is also sport mode for the transmission and a snow mode for it too. All the seats are heated including those on the back with a separate control for each one. I'm personally own the model from 2011 twin turbo V6 3.0 liter diesel with 240 hp. and the heads-up display can show the speed and navigation information together. It has also 10 gb hard disk for music storage and of course very good sound system with 12 speakers. And for the airbags, they are 8 in total and also covered backseat passengers. There are also other things like backseats cupholders, interior lights including such for the floor also. And the external lights you wander about are just for emphasis of car silhouette at night. But you are an American we can forgive you. 😄
there's the hood airbag aswell for pedstrian safety
@@muvit817 😆
The other features he did not mention because its common features.
@@arride4590 He spent ages on the 'novelty' of the middle seat belt, which was commonplace on hatchbacks/MPV's in Europe at the time (might still be tbh), as they banned lap belts in early 00's and a roof mounted belt was the best option, but being a hatch you needed a clear load bay when seats were down. The only unsual thing is that this is a saloon (sedan) and has this feature.
He is reviewing the 2005 model
I remember Jeremy Clarkson complained that the C6 wasn't weird enough, for a big Citroen. He said things like, "it's front wheel drive, when it should be side-wheel drive"
Ah Top Gear S08E05 when James met that Scottish lady who taught him how to drive, bought a C6 because of that, love it still.
^front left wheel and rear right wheel. "nous avons toutes les roues motrices à la maison"
@@Mr.Marbles that’s diagonal wheel drive, not side wheel drive
Ahah! Funny bro
@@patrickmartin3322 i know. that would be even better. rear engine too because why not.
Living in Europe, I love how Doug takes cars that are everywhere here - our everyday cars - and tells us how quirky and strange they are. I guess those terms are relative!
I just bought a C6 - it is even for European standards very quicky, but so is the Roadmaster I had before that (again for European eyes). I guess if you want a normal car just buy a BMW.
Most American cars are weird for Europeans indeed. Sales numbers prove it
Doug's a loveable automotive idiot. At least regarding the Citroen DS. That car was about 40 or 50 years ahead of it's time. My parent's had some friends who owned one. I was a kid in grade school but still recall how quiet and smooth the DS was to ride in. Front wheel drive, five speed all synchronized transmission and hydraulic suspension system: no body else had that in the late 60s to early 70s.
Well. Europe is kinda uhhh yeahhh so. Doug’s right.
Even a German would find a Citroen wierd!
I love Citroens so much!
Yes, they are weird and quirky, but in a charming way. They have so much character. They have personality.
They were so advanced but in a subtle way.
As a Citroën C5 owner I can attest:
Citroën has the best solutions for problems that do not exist.
The c5 v6 and the alfa Romeo 159 jts are my dream cars.
we had a 2002 c5 2.0 hdi.. that car is out of this world ..
@@lies137 same here, i had 2.2 hdi c5 2003
Not fair.... You made me laugh!
@@lies137 I hated the automatic transmission in the c5. 4 gears such a peace of junk. The suspension tho was really good.
The c6 is a wonderful car, my father has it in a garage stored away. When I had the chance to drive it, especially on the autobahn, it was a joy. It had so much tech in it and clever ideas for the time. The white/creme leather looks also so good on this car.
Adding to what Doug already said (as a C6 and Vel Satis owner):
- top tier versions had electrically reclined rear seats
- xenon lamps move along with the steering wheel, enhancing visibility in the corners
- hood has explosive materials near the hinges and in case of hitting a pedestrian they lift the hood few inches, providing a softer hit for the pedestrian
- pneumatic suspension had a camera below the front bumper and it was helping determining how to damp a certain pothole. Additionally, the computers controlling the front axle were sending signals to the rear axle, so even if the front passengers felt a bump, rear seat occupants were even more insulated from any road imperfections
Also, Doug - this weird rear window really helps with rain :)
C6 also had Peugeot's AMVAR suspension system... electronically variable dampers. Doug never pushed the Sport button :@ Also suspension is double wishbone and multilink, all aluminium including subframes!
Wow a Vel Satis! My neighbor had one and I loved that car when I was a kid, let’s say I found its design interesting :) Another Renault I loved was the Avantime, I really liked the rear lights that looked like hourglasses
The rear spoiler does have an aerodynamic function, but it’s intended to create better air flow for enhanced fuel economy. I’m always watching my rear view mirror when hitting 130km/h to see it pop up - and it stays up until you go down to 90 again. It is really quiet inside as Doug noticed as all windows are laminated. Steering wheel is power adjusted.
Everybody know what c6 was better than w221 because unique design and legendary Citroen suspension. Sadly Citroen is not making cars with that suspension anymore. Last generation C% is very last of cars that used this suspension. btw. Old Rolls-Royce after 59 had citroen suspension.
@rasa porosangue can’t really say for sure, but it never bothered me while driving in the rain.
I am french and I have this car. This car is the most comfortable car in the world (she has some awards for that, for real !). This car was not à big success, but in the future she will take à good value. 👍 I paid my car about 8% of it's original price (in good condition)
Well, at least the technology is sold very well. Rolls royce even uses technology from that car. Props to citroen for the technology, but the look is very, as he would say, quirky. 😅
Doug, I own one of these. Along with a S 55, a 740 2000, and a Audi S8. The C6 is the smoothest to drive. It’s quite, cheap to run, it floats. The Head Up display DOES show speed and nav at the same time. Mines travelled 270,000 ks and is still a pleasure to drive.
When it comes to Quirks Citroen is hands down the winner ever time.
Renault Avantime entered the chat
@@franciscomartins6354 Avantime is all about design but luxury Citroën is just QUIRK (design, concept, technology and mechanical) in the last 100 years (TA, DS, SM, CX, XM, C6).
@@franciscomartins6354 Saab hold my Swedish beer
SAAB says hmmm... if it still existed.
The C6 cupholders are actual SAAB parts, and the dark instrument panel mode was first introduced on SAAB 9-5 in 1997... but SAAB had fewer ashtrays of course.
@@mabs503 my exact thoughts when watching both of those parts of the video, lol
Citröen C6: "I'm the quirkiest guy around"
Renault Avantime: "Hold my champagne"
I’d love to see an avantime review.
Early 2000s European automobiles were something else 😂
@@bsosmoove Well... French automobiles. Germans were quite serious, as usual.
@@vibingwithvinyl yeah thats true. France was making cars that I used to doodle in elementary school
wait until you see the Lancia Thesis
I bought it, because I loved the styling... Unless you drive with for a while, you won't understand the car... BTW - you could have speed and navigation on the head-up display... You could turn on sporty suspension for better handling...It was much more stable, just the huge weight was kind of issue in tight curves. The back spoiler was needed for high speeds stability... Tested the maximum on German highways - 242 km/h... Very impressive and still stable (with sporty suspension turned on)... Still pretty quiet, only wind noise from the frameless doors. Loved its 10 GB internal hard drive to load all my music there... BTW it was the first car in Europe to get homologation for daytime running lights (next to the front blinkers)... And for the tail lights - if you'd seen them in the dark, you'd know how efficient they were... Of course judging it in studio lights of museum doesn't show much... I know it is your style of videos, but maybe taking the car more seriously would show your fellow Americans that luxury car doesn't have to be boring comparing to its peers of that time, yet it can be functional and really make fun to drive... And yes, many cars from those days had pleeenty of buttons for all their features, because digital was not yet the thing...
One thing that Doug failed to mention about the Citroen C6 is that the wheel arches don’t protrude into the rear seats. Instead, the wheel arches are adjacent to the trunk; which I think it’s a clever design because it gives the rear passengers a more spacious, and less intrusive cabin. Also not mentioned, is that in some Citroens the steering wheel instantly centers itself each time after a left or right turn. But perhaps that particular 2006 Citroen C6 had a conventional steering.
This"notmoving" center was in C4 and C5
the self centerin system was last used in the CItroen XM:
Citröen really lives up to its slogan, "Creative technology".
Citroën and Saab made it their way. No matter if it was cost effective to make. They made cars for everyday drivers.
Used to
That slogan minds -car mechanic must be creative to repair it.😁
Not anymore unfortunately since PSA decided to keep the brand as a low budget producer. They are using DS as a "luxury brand" with questionable success
@@Secrecy30 Actually, I haven't heard about Citroen in a while now.
Doug, you forgot to talk about some features, like the "active front hood" that the C6 has. This car has a special hood hinges with a pyrotechnic charge that in case you hit a pedestrian, rises the rear part of the hood to minimise the injuries to the pedestrian.
This C6 also has directional xenon headlights, wich turns with the front wheels when you are cornering
It also has frameless windows with laminated glass in all four doors
@@yungboicontigo9278 bad bait
Doug got distracted by all the quirks! 😂
@@yungboicontigo9278 It's not Doug hate... he has to keep his videos moving, keep them snappy and interesting so doesn't always get to demonstrate every single quirk or feature, I don't think he claims to. But, the comments below a Doug video are always worth reading because someone who has more intimate knowledge of the car will come up and say things like "that feature you thought was weird - here's the reason they did it that way" or "also it has x, y and z". I like that, it's knowledge sharing from car person to car person and I've learned stuff from it.
Also a sport mode! 😁
@@yungboicontigo9278 easy there, go rub one off and try again
A lot of France is extremely dark with a lot of countryside and mountain areas. Keep in mind, while Paris is massive, most major cities in France simply aren't that big as American ones. So having a cluster of screens that can be dimmed or turned off except for the most necessary information helps a driver see better in the night in these areas as the light isn't brightly reflecting in their eyes and preventing from seeing through the windshield as well. It's like a silent safety feature.
This car could come out today as a new model and still look modern and amazing
The last true Citroën 😍
And now there are Citroën AND DS
Tu te fais du mal, la souffrance du sauvetage de ta C6 !
C666 !!! 🔥🔥🔥
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Definitely, this was the car that I choose from a dealer
Exactement!!
J'ai pensé à toi directement quand j'ai vu la vignette. Doug avait l'air heureux de présenter cette ultra quirky C Six.
I've never heard a more funky seat belt chime in my life. Had me grooving.
Quite common for PSA cars in Europe (Peugeot and Citroen). They share a lot of components too.
@@bojned moj 308 se tako čuje,meni ništa neobično
Not joking that chime is burnt into my brain FOREVER. We had a Peugeot 207 and whenever someone had themselves unbuckled or we put heavy stuff on a chair and detected that "someone" is sitting there, it just started beeping. Firstly it was subtle, then it got louder went on for 2 minutes then it got the loudest. So yea, it's definitely funky but I'll never forget it.
Edit - I stopped at the part when he started talking about the chime, didn't know that he mentioned the chime getting louder
@@strahinjakerezovic104 Nemaju oni to u Amerikama 😁
@@beamy.6622 It stops after approximately 3 minutes after all…
The ‘don’t power wash’ sticker - is not to stop people washing the engine, it’s to highlight the fuse box which you definitely should not shoot water into.
Why not
@@gupadre8255 have a think mate
That audio control behind the steering wheel is very common for french cars, Peugeot and Renault also have it. It's actually very comfortable and easy to use once you get used to it. My dad had a C5 for 13 years and it also had a lot of the c6s features. I found the adjustable height of the suspension to be very cool altough if you raised the height, the car would automatically go back down if you drove above 50 kph. Also the dashboard was huge, it had like 8 dials and instruments. It also had a lot of equipment for a car from the early 00's like automatic wipers, rain sensors, automatic ac, a colled glove box... most of the stuff we can today get only as extra option and in top trim packages.
My 2000 ford focus had the same, and I still think it's a lot more ergonomical than buttons on the face of the steering wheel. When holding the wheel, your fingers are more or less in that position, and the fact that they don't rotate along makes them easier to locate. Not sure why all manufacturers went to steer buttons these days.
Also the chime getting louder if you ignore it is like that in any care I've driven in the last 15 years...
I have never seen that in a Peugeot or a Renault before...maybe they weren't in the models I've ridden in.
I had the C5 2.2. Lovely car
The highest setting on Citroën hydropneumatic suspension also means you have zero suspension. It becomes rock hard at that level. About reliability: Citroëns suspension was actually quite good. They held together way better the just about any air suspension out there. My twin brother is a Citroën nerd.
Not only was it more reliable than probably any other mass produced air or hydraulic suspension, it's also way cheaper to repair when something goes wrong. The main part (the spheres that replace the spring and damper) cost just around 100$ and take less than an hour to install, whereas other brands like Mercedes and Jaguar will sell you replacement parts for their systems (like hydraulic dampers) usually for thousand or more...
I would say that a japanese air suspension is more reliable..Lexus 😏
you are french? citroen peugeot are amazing unique cars.
@@TheEtno81 Air suspensions are never reliable. And,who cares? Air is not coming even close to Hydropneumatic! I've driven air Mercs (new and old) and they are not good as my C5. Neither cheap or reliable.
@@russjiao-long5387 more reliable than range rover air suspension, but that's about it
That "hidden" door pocket is so good I'm surprised more companies don't implement them into their cars. This would look so good in something like a RR or a Bentley.
think the springs have gone on that one as well as it's a soft close cover, what we saw in the video was too fast.
Advanced years mean that I now drive Xsara Picasso - through choice! It's 16 years old. It's door pockets are designed to hold a 1 litre bottle of wine in all 4 doors, party time when you get home. They have actually put a picture of a wine bottle on the trim panel - lest we forget.
You could put your weed in there
The main issue on this mechanic when we developed it was... The grease... Really bad. It works fine in tbe beginning and year after year.. the grease will lose its characteristics. And keep the constant speed was a nightmare.
@@paulsonjeff Police does uno reverse with Papa Dougs video
Accelleration low 8 sec 0-60, Doug gives it a 1 !!!, This car is 100% better than anything made in the US in its time. The cabin is one of the nicest places to be this side of an S-class while traveling across Europe. Doug just didn't get it.
He would give the same score to a Trabant
I don't understand how this car is "weird", it has place for things in the doors, behind a nice little wood circle, thats better than any normal car, even by nowadays standards
People like to say Citroen are weird cars. When in fact they're among the best. When they were bought by Peugeot, the brand lost its reputation due to major costs cutting.
For example, they always had top notch suspensions and I can take a speed bump 50kmh not feeling it in my Xantia or my C15.
*@Avaraz.* Forgive him he is an American.
he's used to armerican cars: big, bulky, no refinement, no style.
With regards to handling, German magazine auto motor und sport did a comparison with the BMW 5 series, and the C6 was actually so much quicker on the test track that they felt the need to write an op-ed on how this is not a real Citroën any more what with all the sportiness. I've been owning a C6 for 11 years, bought new, and this car continues to amaze me. It's not built for traffic light duels, it's one of the best cars for long Autobahn or highway journeys. It does 240 kph, and at 160 kph my wife can still adjust her make-up, that's how good the suspension is.
The styling is somewhat art deco with a theme of straight lines and half-circles plus citations from former styling icons in the Citroën family, like the DS, the CX, and the SM. I think it's gorgeous. It's a car built for the Citroën enthusiast, of which unfortunately there weren't enough. It does not have the aggression cars of that market segment usually display, it has elegance and understatement.
It's so much more interesting than anything the germans put out there.
Exactly! Citröen's Hydroneumatic suspensions seem too soft because they seem to be intended to be comfortable. But when you actually push them to the limit they show they hold the car on the turn much better than stiffer springs sport suspensions.
@@JAILUTB Many French cars had body roll but they had very good handling.
Citroen 2cv , Citroen Cx .
The styling is simply beautiful, I love the art deco look. I wish we had these here in Canada, I would love to daily one of these.
Autozeitung tested C6 V6 hdi on their test track and its slower than most german car. Its veeery slow. Its slower than mercedes X 190 hp diesel pickup by 2,2s and nissan navara dci by almost 2 secs, its absurd. XD
5 series will crush this in race track to the bones and stop spreading bs.
As a french guy, I've been waiting to see this review coming out ever since I saw a snippet of it at the very beginning of one of your other videos, months ago during the Caaars And Biiids advertising thing. 😁 I'm sooo thrilled you've finally released this very awaited C6 review!
As you said, the Citroën C6 is a very quirky car (even for us) and certainly one of the strangest of French cars!
French makers were never able to compete with the Germans on the upper market segments, and the C6 is one of the biggest failures in the history of the French car industry. Only about 23.400 units were made during the entire production run, which is an insanely low figure. Shamingly so. The Renault Vel Satis was another huge failure on the same segment, and both models were on sale during (roughly) the same period of time. Both were good cars, but too weird to attract E-Class and 5 Series buyers. Of course, the brand names also did come into play, as Citroën, Peugeot and Renault are just mainstream manufacturers, far from the hype and the strong reputation of Mercedes, BMW and Audi.
But still, you missed quite a few interesting features on the C6, and some things you've said are wrong. First, the wood trim is real wood. Then, the climate vents can be closed by just turning their wheel all the way down, which makes them go flush with the dashboard and kind of disappear (or blend in, if you will). Those other wheels you've turned on the sides of the center screen, they control the upper vents designed to redirect the airflow towards the windshield, allowing for a softer air conditioning experience (not to be mistaken for the windshield defroster, which is yet another thing).
Then, the head up display can indeed display the speed, the navigation directions and some other informations, all at the same time.
The higher trim levels were equipped with all-around double glazing for even better sound deadening, and with directional bi-Xenon headlights. Those higher trim levels could also come with optional electrically adjustable and heating rear seats (but then you would lose the folding capability).
Did you notice that the "infotainment" system is the same as those you would find in a Fiat, an Alfa Romeo or a Maserati? That's because PSA and Fiat Group had a partnership at that time (they built minivans and commercials in common).
And you also missed out quite a few important things in the suspension department. The 4 cylinder models came with an already sophisticated system, but the 6 cylinder models had all the bells and whistles in terms of suspension : the Hydractive with AMVAR (AMortissement VARiable = adaptive damping). This last generation of hydropneumatic suspension system is the most advanced Citroën has ever made, and it allowed for both high level comfort and excellent handling, although, of course, the C6 was no sports car by any means. It was "la pièce de résistance", truly a very refined suspension and a key feature of this car. But it was expensive to build, expensive to maintain, and Citroën no longer makes it.
The C6 is the last big sedan Citroën has built in the true "Citroën fashion" with all its weirdness (and poor reliability), and even here in France, we don't get to see one all that often. But C6s in good condition, with low mileage and with the petrol V6 engine, are becoming more and more sought after, and their market value tends to go up! Some say that this car is a future collector! I almost bought myself one, but then... nah! I rather went for an E-Class, which is my daily driver and never lets me down.
Anyway, thank you Doug for this great video! I can tell by the smile on your face, that you had a great time reviewing this very unusual car.
Amazing reply. Merci beaucoup
You sound like you wish you had one. Yes, the reliability might not be a good as other cars, but the passion that you get with a C6, the pleasure of owning it, the look of it, these things are worth trading some reliability forIf you have a beautiful woman she may spend more money on clothes, hair, jewelry, but the result......................!
@Jack Torrance Wow that's very kind of you! Thank you very much Jack 😊
@@tonypereira2054 Thanks to you Tony! 😀
@@Hattonbank As I said at the end of my (loooong) comment, I almost bought a C6. In fact, I ordered one a few years ago, but the dealer wasn't able to deliver the car within a reasonable delay. In the meantime, I had read lots of bad feedbacks about this car's reliability, and I decided to cancel my order and to buy a Mercedes E-Class.
But I'm with you on what you said Bernard! It's a very special car, and I'm sure it's worth the few tradeoffs. 😉
I think it's a great, great looking car. Too bad they don't sell these in Canada anymore. Great review Doug. Keep up your great work.
I had one for two years. Flawed but also perfect at the same time. Hates twisty roads but loves the open road. Great seats, especially the back seats. Hydractive suspension is even more comfy than modern air suspension. Most comfortable car I ever drove in, love this car.
I think Doug missed a few features out. The C6 was the only car that combined Peugeot's AMVAR system with Citroen's Hydroactive system. The dampers AND suspension was adjustable, over 50 times per second. The wallowy ride is what gives it comfort... but if Doug pushed the "Sport" button, the dampers AND suspension would stiffen to give it far more cornering prowess... courtesy of it's all aluminium front double wishbones and multilink rear... with all aluminium subframes. This is to simplify the suspension, it's far more complex, the hydropenumatic system can actually reduce body roll massively when in sport mode and also helps you change a wheel too! Other notable facts is the car has cornering headlights, which swivel when taking bends. All the glass is double glazed to reduce road noise. The infotainment system will automatically dial the authorities and give the position in the event of a crash, which it even has a battery backup system! Of course, if you pop a simcard into it, then you have a full onboard phone too. HVAC system has individual automatic vent control for passenger and driver, which works superbly. There's far more but all I can think of right now. How doug drived it without pushing the sport button... is beyond me... this is a french car, the sport button actually makes it sporty, unlike modern german cars which just makes the exhaust louder!
I appreciate your comment, I totally agree with you and I'm happy that other people appreciate this car as much as I do. I don't know how he could gave this car a 7 in comfort if Rolls Royce literally used the same suspension patent.
Thank you very much Khalid! You rightly pointed out qualities of this marvelous car that Doug just missed for the simple reason that he is not used to such sophistication. Lack of power: to ride in comfort on the French "autoroutes" at the speed limit of 130 km/hr, you do not need a 6 liters engine. For info, the max speed is around 200 km/hr and max fuel burn 12 liters/100 km (Those who want to convert those figures into their local ones are free to do so, I am free NOT to do so).
2005 jaguar XJ c.a.t.s. was better anyway, better comfort and better handling. I drove back to back a C6 3.0 V6 and an XJ 3.5 recently
@@denalisiomontpellier4064 There is no possible way a classic.suspension to be more comfortable than a hydropneumatic o e
As a former XM owner I can confirm about the Hydroactive suspension and the sport button. It really makes a difference on a mountain road.
Doug has been incredible this year, really stepped up a level, if that was even possible. Keep it up Doug!
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Wait for the Clio V6 review !
Doug is one of this guys that can only be better.
He just had a kid.
I think it's safe to say, he's keeping "it" up.
I want Doug to review Jimmy Hendrix 69 Cadillac Eldorado, just so he can say "aand those are the quirks and features of Jimmy Hendrix Cadillac Eldorado, now it's time to get it out on the road and see how it jives." 😏
I had a 1991 Citroën XM. It had a fun feature. You could diagnose the car using the radio. It worked like this: You had to tune the radio to a channel called Radio XM. And then start to drive, use the brakes, turn this way and that way and do all sorts of things. And the radio would tell you if things were working or not. It was like listening to a modem, sort of. And when you for example accellerated the sound would change. I think that the radio diagnose was connected to some magnetic valves or what it is in the hydropneumatic system which controlled the steering, gearbox, brakes and suspension. And you could listen to the radio to hear if those thing gave the right sound or not indicating if it worked as it should or had errors. Anyway it was very fascinating and very quirky. Probably very useful and very innovative in those times before computer diagnosis was invented.
Citroëns are by the way wonderful cars! I now own my third Citroën.
It is the empress of the road, I own it for 12 years, covered big distances without backbone ache and with no dizziness after driving for 6 hours in a row. Just overhauled it and I would not exchange it for my wife's newest S90. It is still a head turner. Wow wow 👌
are you french?
@@Rico-oz4ct no, I am not
The C6 is on more example why I consider Citroën as "Art on wheels" 😀
agree!
“Art” 😖
It’s about as beautiful as a donkey in my opinion
Maybe I’m being to harsh. But I still wouldn’t buy it.
I owned one of these in rural England and Doug, you do this version of the Hydropneumatic Activa III Suspension a real disservice. It had the ability to dynamically stiffen the suspension and roll bars to improve cornering over versions of the suspension seen in previous models such as the CX, BX and XM.
Couple of quirks you missed:
Swivelling headlights with the steering.
The suspension makes it easy to change the (massive and expensive) tyres. Full height on the suspension, insert jack, couple of turns and the wheel is off the ground.
Had one as a rental in the mid 2000s in Spain. Excellent car with outstanding fuel economy.
I was a big fan of the old Citroën XM, which was very futuristic for its time, and the C6 is a worthy successor.
Please do more non-German, non-British, non-Italian European cars!!!
What's left? Frenchies, Dacia, Lada, KTM, and the practically-german Seat and Skoda? Also note that some Suzukis are basically hungarian.
It would be impressive if he can review a Donkervoort D8 or Gillette Vertigo.
Yes please, for instance the NSU Prinz to be seen in background here 18:51
@@randalica92 Volvo and Saab
@@randalica92
A Skoda Superb MK2 L&K is a great car, plenty of Americans would love it.
There's a lot of similarities between this car's styling and this new age of electric sedans. It was truly ahead of its time.
Almost all Citroen are ahead of their time :)
@@katzicael Well, they were. Nowadays, Citroën and their upscale DS-variants are as boring as they can be because PSA wants to attract a wider audience, that doesn't care about neat little gimmicks and instead just looks for rather affordable, mediocre and unsurprising means of transportation. The introduction of the DS-series and the discontinuation of the hydropneumatic suspension, that went along with it, really marked the downfall of Citroëns charming weirdness and drove a lot of their fans away from the brand.
I'm really glad, that my father still has his Mk. III C5 and his old XM, these things are just something else. The C5 especially, which is basically a less "artsy" looking C6, is a fantastic cruiser that made trips across Europe feel like taking a stroll.
@@Reckefisch actually DS and in turn citroen itself still uses hydropneumatic suspension, for the top of the line models, the difference being that the driver no longer has control over the suspension like the older models, such as this C6, nowadays it's totally automatic.
@@Reckefisch I guess you also hate people who drive Citroën and their upscale DS-variants? I bet you also yell at other people for driving cars you don't like.
as someone who has owned and still have french cars of that era in family, these were near all ahead of their time and more features than you'd expect, reliability is brought up as their issue, but if you avoid few engines usually they are very reliable just gotta make sure to have someone that knows how to work on electrics
Doug, you are definitely wrong about your appreciation of the handling of this car. Citroens are renowned for being always glued to the road, and this is also true with the C6. You can take turns at very high speed and the C6 will negotiate them without any problem.
I love this car. I wish I had it
This car is a masterpiece, truly unique piece of engineering
Yes, i agree. But why did this man say it was "Weird" about 500 times? Would you want his company on a long road trip?
Looks like a terrible car to me.
lol, not really. It's just pretty standard PSA fare piled high with extras to justify the price. It does have some quirky Citroenesque features but it's all quite pastiche at this point. Sort of what PSA thinks a Citroen should be rather than real organic Citroen.
@@yesterdayschunda1760 it is haha
@@karstenmesenholer3063 Are you speaking out of experience? I've had a Peugeot 607 V6 (which is as far as I know exactly the same enigen was that used in the pertrol verion of the C6) which had some of the "quirks" of this C6 and it was a great car for the money (much cheaper than a german car with the same kind of engine and luxury options).
An audio stalk was the de facto norm in all French cars of the era.
Actually, I can't remember any early 2000's Frenchie I've owned that didn't have one!
put on your seatbelt
PUT ON YOUR SEATBELT
*_PUT ON YOUR SEATBELT_*
My parents used to have a Renault Megane II and the seatbelt chime got louder and louder.
It was so annoying you HAD to put your seatbelt on.
Actually citreon and peugot still use this stalk currently. Must be a bargain to produce for them. Look definitly out of place with this 90s round biodesign in their new interiors
@@LaFritePerreGoat I have a Peugeot partner van and it uses the exact same chime
@@LaFritePerreGoat Well they're really well designed, I'm glad they've kept them.
Cracks me up that in a country that dreamt up Plymouth Prowlers,AMC Pacers,and 50's land whales(that indeed resembles finfish)this gets called "weird looking from the outside".Many French cars looked gorgeous(Citroen DS,SM,CX) ,Panhards,looked gorgeous to me.And I thought the ultra reliable Peugeot 505 I was fortunate enough to own was very handsome,if more conventional.
I wish Doug did a night 🌙 time full interior/exterior light example of all his reviews!
I am extremely happy seeing the C6 get a review. From seeing it in a small bit during one of those Cars & Bids bits, i have been waiting daily for this video to pop up. Keep up the great stuff, especially from the Lane Auto Museum.
Same!!!!!
Doug: "Look how weird and quirky and French this is!"
Me, a French person: "For a Citroen, this is quite a normal car. I would have loved a few more quirks."
I really hope that Doug also reviews the Citroen Ami and GS that can be seen in the background!
Doug would be impressed with the C4 fixed center steering wheel and all that buttons around it... LOL
The new Citroen ami or the old one? I'd say both
Even for us French folks, the C6 was indeed a very bizarre car... 😂
François from GBnRR will agree with that! 🤣
Doug hasn’t seen the new C4 yet for sure 😂
@@Arachnosoft it’s not bizarre… it’s unique and I truly love it
What he leaves out is the 65mpg with the diesel, and the fact that they have a 2liter 4 cylinder diesel with 201hp and 380ft/lbs of torque. I like luxury cars, I really appreciate a smooth riding, easy going car with a diesel motor that is quite, effortless and gives great fuel economy. Plus it's front wheel drive which makes good in the snow and gives it a lot of interior room. Honestly these french cars are to advanced and sophisticated for americans to understand
I have always admired this car. In my opinion, one of the most beautiful sedans ever.
Would love to have a Doug museum for educational purposes 😀
Same
Happy to see you watch Doug!!
When his Mercedes G-Wagon cabriolet goes on display, I would definitely pay a visit
Zollotech!!!
@@bonzobonanza I agree, or his E63 AMG wagon that he recently sold.
I never clicked in a Doug video so quickly. This car is certainly weird, but it's so weird that is cool! I live in Portugal and even here is a rare even seeing one. But when I do, oh boy it's a treat. My father has a C5 from the same era and the pneumatic suspension makes it the most floating in a clowd veichle I ever been
I miss Portugal...beautiful country with beautiful people...having this car and living in Portugal would be a fantasy life.
Também não perdi tempo e assim que pude vi o vídeo! É sem dúvida o último dos grandes Citroen. Isto é sobretudo um carro para quem não quer a monotonia dos carros alemães.
I still have my C5 and it drives smooth as butter
I loved the curved rear window of the C6 but I'm sure it would of been very expensive to replace..
The rear side running lights are for backing out of typically small French garages and driveways that are flush with walls sometimes right on the medieval street. Very useful for leaving at night.
Style 4 ???? Dude you are wrong!! I am an automotive designer and I saw the development of the C6 and its concept, it is incredible
The last Citroen. Well put. Marks the end of an era in which cars still had character, and unapologetically so.
Citroën has had a bit of a non inspiring phase after the C6 but if you look closely, they still had a fair share of quirky cars. I think most of all the Cactus, which was just hilariously Citroën-y. Even the new AMI One is a type of car not many brands can get away with in terms of daring decisions. And most of all, here in the Netherlands at least they are very affordable for what they are. People bought loads of Cactuses.
C5 is less quirky but still has the same suspension.
If by "character" you mean that every single person that enters the car inevitably asks "what the fuck is this?" then perhaps it's a good thing
@@NavGTI the c4 Picasso and the citroen ds5 were also truly citroen too
I think what Citroen does is truly remarkable. It's like they're constantly throwing new ideas on the wall but they don't wait to see if something sticks, they just keep adding new ideas and removing old ones. It's almost like they don't care about capitalizing off their innovations, they just want to innovate for the sake of it.
These days their cars are actually engineered quite normally, they just have cool funky designs instead. (see the new Citroen C4)
They also shyly drive innovation. For example, in 2014 they made the Cactus that had an LED band that looked like a front light bar (which you find on concepts) while hiding the headlights lower. Now you will find this design on the Hyundai Kona, and even BMW is copying it on their upcoming X7
@@PoloDaBear True their latest/upcoming generation is pretty much a mildly quirkier version of Peugeot but the last one was still quite unique. The whole Cactus thing was really cool and I'm kinda sad it didn't catch on...
@@arthemis1039 Why do people complain when manufacturers "copy" each other when you people don't mind copying other people?
They used to be this way, not anymore, Citroen lost its soul, now they're all in for the $$$$$$
Being a native of Morocco 🇲🇦 whenever you review a Citroen, it’s an instant nostalgia trip to late 80’s early 90’s (your CX25 review). In 2006 this car’s replacement parts were typically pretty expensive and hard to find.
I remember these well. They had a very unique design language which was a total departure from what they were doing at that time with their other cars. Also, note the square rear doors. And how there is no wheel well protruding in the opening making getting in and out way more comfortable.
Despite how weird the styling is, the interior actually looks quite nice and the technology is impressive even for today's standards.
The interior is relatively thamed down. I was a bit disappointed that it doesn't have the quirky fixed hub steering wheel of other contemporary Citroen models.
i think the storage compartements in the doors are really cool. Also, the rear tail lights are actually somewhat like the Audi A6 from the early 2000s, a bit weird but..
Well considering that it came with HUD as standard on all C6 models at the time of it's production is a quirk in of itself... Also the fact that ac was always on, where you can turn it off if needed, unlike the other cars where you actually have to turn it on, what is amazing about citroen is that every single detail, was designed toward creature comfort... Be it a C6, C5 or even smaller models...
I cannot wait for the day when Doug reviews a Renault Avantime
I love that car: grand air!
I want him to review a Toyota Alphard
8,557 were built from 2001 to 2003, a figure that makes it one of the worst-selling cars of all time. LoL
Doug said that the Lane Motor Museum had an Avantime. Unfortunately, it broke down when he arrived at the museum 😔
No, a Fiat Multipla
If I may add something about the variable hight suspension that , at least in the 2 Citroen reviews I have watched so far, is the advantage of NOT needing to be jacked up to change a wheel.
That involves the following sequence: Loosen the nuts, raise the car to full height. insert the jack or block, remove and exchange the wheel, start to tighten the wheel nuts, remove jack or block, lower the car, tighten nuts fully. Job Done. Advantage is no need to crouch or lay down to find and locate the jack - certainly an advantage in rain or snow.
It's a beautiful car. One of the most beautiful I've seen. It's a classic collectors item now. Love it.
Minor corrections:
- The climate vents: the top mounted wheels are for the draiftless air dome behind the entertainment screen which was a major advertising point, if you want to close the normal dashboard vents, you just turn the wheels next to them all the way down, they shut like blinds.
-The HUD can display speed and navi info at the same time, the navi stuff is situational though, it just shows them when you cycle through the modes.
-the dark button also kills the dashbaord lighting on the highest setting, great feature.
Also, yes, the chime gets louder and louder.
Yes, Doug really has never had a Citroen cuz it's normal to have these things, but this is high spec.
Some cars have adjustable rear seats.And the bonnet goes up in case of a collision with a pedestrian and, and….
Doug often does not understand various details of cars he reviews.
@@fredgien Yeah that's knowns as Loung Pack, the one of the only two option, the other is a glass roof
Did you own one?
At least to European eyes, this car is sleek, stylish and for 2005 futuristic. Yes, most people were not willing to spend big money for a Citroen and that rear may now have dated, but what a handsome beast indeed. A friend's dad here in the UK had its predecessor the XM.
Your scoring was unnecessarily harsh IMO.
he's american, he doesn't get this sort of cars.
as a european, I never really liked the design of citröens lol
@@fckSashka yea, you're allowed to be wrong. although your username makes me doubt the "European" part. and the "a European" sounds more American than European.
@@mistreku I'm European and that car is distasteful in design but to each their own.
given that c6 styling is pretty much spot on from 1999 lignage concept car, it would have been pretty stylish at launch and still is in my view. It was severely let down by lack of equipment that was already available to its price level competitors at its launch in 2005. i've owned one and it needs to be seen in person to be appreciated. i was 100% satisfied with the styling, but not the rest of the car. I had an XM, which I also enjoyed.
I think my family went to the lane motor museum. The massive amphibious vehicle, the only in the background of your filming, a car with a bubble interior, and the narrowest car- could even fit through a doorway.
Hi Doug, I had a CX a long time a go. That was also the top model of Citroën ('70 and '80) and had the same suspention. The high and low level is not intent for driving, that is to change a weel. If you have a flat tire you put the car in the upper position, then you put the jack under the car at a special point and then you put the car in the lower position. The car goes down and the weel near the jack will lift of the ground so you can change it. When done you do the above in reverse order and the car is ready to go.
The Doug score was not right,
-4 Styling? this car is truly timeles and beautiful;
3 Handeling?, no it isnt a sportcar, however you didnt talk about sport mode. That siffer tbe suspension/steering Less cornering etc
- 5 for features? You missed on a lot of stuff. Like a lot op peple addressed in the comments, the airback under the hood for pedestrian crash, dubble glace windows, moving lights, active roadscanning for better suspension, heated seats, buildin harddrive for music, etc etc.
7 for comfort? The hydro pneumatic suspension eats speedbumbs for breakfasts, and is superior on the highway. Should at least be a 8.
He fucked up. Probably not the first time. But it's his score, so I don't necessarily care.
Doug would not know how to rate a bike even if it's life depended on it...I guess he rates stuff according to his own tastes...Just listen to the 760Li review...the guy says that 440bhp is "ok" not super powerfull...I mean sure...maybe if I drove a huge muscle car everyday that would be ok...But speaking to a global audience that's not the kind of stuff you should say...I mean for most europeans cars usually have 100 to 150 bhp...that´s the norm over here. And whats up with the 0 to 60 times?? 8 seconds in a almost 2 ton car is great!! Given the power that it has is fine! And yes he missed most of the importante features of the C6...and I do say that to give a 3 mark for handling...this guy clearly does not know what he's got in his hands...But yeah...I bet his Defender rides better...LOOOL or not...
doohg
beautiful? cmon man...
Average fr*nch(🤮) car fan:
I think its awesome! Much more fun to be different than drive a BMW or Merc (yawn). The taillight assembly may seem to be weird, but they can delete the roof/body weld, which either has to be ground down and filled, or have a cheap looking bit of plastic covering it, as you find on some cars.
Just got back from spring break and I had my parents stop there, which was a no-brainer. LOVE that place. So many cool cars and amazing building.
THISSSSS….was the moment I’ve been waiting for
When will UA-cam ban these bots
@@Firebolt1729 when we will report them enough
@@ykd0011 I have reported accounts like these multiple times, and I am sure others have well, but nothing happens😐
14:38. This is perfect. I hate it when my kids fight over the cigarette lighter.
Or when kids let their ar-15 shotgun on the driver seat and you sit on it every time
The Citroen hydromatic system also assists the steering and brakes. In addition, the Citroen C6 has the latest version of this system that does not need to be replaced since it has multiple membranes in the spheres. It is also used to replace the wheels when you suffer a puncture since you only have to raise the suspension to the maximum, place the support and then lower it, simple as no other. It is also an addition to safety since if you are on the road and you puncture a tire, the car tends to stay level, preventing you from losing control of it. a failure in sales but a great car, the model you showed with the beige interior is one of the 1500 that were made with that color. Less than 25,000 were made in total from 2006 to 2012.
The Hydropneumatic does assist but on the older models! On the C5 (from 2000) the steering and the brakes are completely separated from the suspension. EU Regulations.
I owned one of these for a couple of years. A fantastic car and probably my favourite. I love the design. Mine was a 2.7 twin turbo diesel. Such a beautiful car to drive in the country. Main problem was it cost a lot to keep it on the road as parts were very expensive. I really miss mine but not the workshop costs.
I don't recall having seen anybody gesturing so extensively when they talk. The whole car rocks from side to side.
Yeah thats because he didn`t even bother to look up the sport button at the gearbox and then press it. :)
Scotty Kilmer: "Hold my beer"
Italians....
I cannot agree with Doug about the suspension system. Actually, it's extremely simple and reliable, if you think about it and learn how it's designed. It's a technological marvel.
Servoelectric steering - OK
Electronic fuel injection - OK
Variable valve timing - so?
Automatic transmission - whatever
Cruise control, satnav, automatic steering... - Zzzzzzzzz
Suspension *NOT* 19th century buggy coil springs - OMG NOOOO!!! HOW ODD!!! IT'LL NEVER WORK!!!
My father had a c5 and c6 over a long time. the c6 is in garage and waits to get an Oldtimer.
Many things broke on these cars but the suspensions made no problems whatsoever. Combined I would say 450.000 km on both cars.
@@zwerker americans will never be able to understand how beautiful French cars were, are, and will be.
he may also have mentionned mercedes copied the system for their S class in the 80s and that for some time Rolls Royce were using Citroen patent on their cars
@@vince207 considering the technology is from the 1940s to 1950s is amazing
I think this car was cool not only in 2006, but also today. Think what it was like in 2006 when you had a HUD, and you had a saab-like "night mode" which was pretty cool.
The audio controls is not because of this car, that’s how Citroen and Peugeot did it for all their cars in that era.
I have the C6’s predecessor, the XM. The early XM’s were properly weird, which Citroën eventually toned down. I also own a Citroën BX 16 Valve Gti.
Love the XM still stands out today ,preferred the MK1 opposed to the facelift model funny enough….👍
How did that escape the great GTI transplant holocaust of the late 90's?
@@red00eye Only one previous owner to me buying it in 2010. He’d bought it new in 1989 and treasured it. His wife referred to it as ‘his beloved Citroën’. It was put up for sale because he’d become too ill to drive it unfortunately.
Loved the XM. Shame we never got DIRAVI in the UK.
My dad had a 1989 1.7 naturally aspirated diesel BX sold with the Gti trim because Citroen had ran out of those performance engines so just sold it new with a Diesel engine. It had all round disc brakes. Alloys and a largeish rear wing. Loved it. Hydraulics failed in the end.
Citroen is one of the most innovative brands across the automotive landscape. I wish the DS had remained in production to the present day. Same goes for the SM. One of the most fantastic GT cars ever produced.
They make new ds's tho
@@superbcdva They became standalone in 2015, they just aren't making them under citroen.
@@Nightwolf2595 yes i know
It's like having a big daft 5 year old in the car. That Citroen is gorgeous, the only 'weird quirky' thing in there is Doug DeMuro
Love it when Doug decries the warning sounds.
I've dropped EVERYTHING and clicked on the notification INSTANTLY when i saw the c6
I love when Doug reviews "normal" European cars. For him being American everything is weird lol
This also show that Americans are missing out a lot of cars.
This isn't a normal European car. A normal European car would be a Mercedes E-class or something similar. This is weird wherever you come from (unless you are French).
@@MultiWalrus1 that's why I typed "normal" lol
@@nachogti2918 gotcha 🤓👍
@@MultiWalrus1 as a European, not coming from france, I personally don't see this car as weird, I see it as a normal luxury sedan... A little bit eccentric like most French cars, but still not strange, odd, nor weird... This is what I expect from the French auto maker, which is why to me, it's not weirder than competitive E class or A6 or BMW 5 series of the era... And also due to the size and other features, this one was marketed as a competitor to the F segment of cars (S class, A8 and 7 series), and like I said that comes from an European who's not French...
Just bought one, because of your video. Didn´t even knew about it before. Now i am a proud owner. It is a incredible car! Thanks fpr sharing!
Engineers : How many quirks do you want in this car?
Citroen Head: Doug Demuro
I absolutely love the C6! It’s such a cool quirky car!
@T a t s u h i s h a©🌹 Shut up
@@jannie6605 no u
@@Firebolt1729 - just KEEP DENOUNCING those SEX BOTS until Doug "begins to get them KICKED OUTTA HERE"...
@@syxepop yes!
I would've honestly given this car a 7, or 8 in styling.
I absolutely love how it looks
C6 i beatyfull! Love it.
Same here, beautiful design
10 out of 10 for its class, mate. it needs to be seen in person to be really appreciated - inside and out.
I want one. It's one of the few cars that I find interesting
and he didn't even show rolling the windows down. They are frameless, and also the rear windows roll down completely, which is a rear feat.
I always loved bursts of forward thinking, and ingenuity, mixed with strangeness in French car design. This could only be more French if it ran on butter. I adore it so much.
All the stuff inside the car, the things that you think are strange, are quite common in most new cars.
You could have easily shown the rear spoiler deployed. With ignition off, press the wiper lever down and it will deploy itself into a "service" position.
‘Wrong’ about the air vents’ closure, Doug; the edgewheels that you referred to are to control the ‘Air Curtain’ airflow - a vent that deflects HVAC air off the windscreen via outlets atop the infotainment screen “hump”.
The face level vents are shut off by rolling the vertical flow slats all the way downwards… 🤗
And that audio control is very common on Peugeot/Citroën cars, same with that seatbelt warning chime . Not that quirky... LOL
@@gebezeira Absolutely correct.
@@gebezeira audio control is very common for french cars in general, Renault's had it for years. For a person like Doug i expected him to say "common for french cars but weird so see in us" or something it felt like he had seen such thing for the first time
On mine I kept those vents closed as the air curtain worked so well and you never felt the air flow. Never been in another car that did it even close to this well.
That ‘s what I thought
Lower models of Citroen from that era also had cruise controls on the stock on the steering column. Ex. C2 had it like this. But it's still nothing compared to how awesome the steering wheel was in the C4 Picasso- while you turned the steering wheel, the central part with all the buttons remained stationary.
My Renault Clio from 2016 has still a lot of those features; stock for audio (works great!), dark-modes, seat belt alarm gettin' louder. We had that kind of 3 point belt in our Renault Scenic.
The DS 9 is Citroen's new C6.
I think Doug would be crazy over Renault Avantime
I heard the Lane Motor Museum has an Avantime, but it broke down when Doug arrived at the museum
5:10 This has to be the coolest cupholder ever!
I’m pretty sure they are copied from Saab. Along with night panel mode.
I’ve just watched your Lucid Air video and this still seems as modern, styling wise. In fact the Air looks like a current iteration of a Citroen.
The audio stalk is something I'm used to from my old Renault Clio. It's surprisingly easy to use.
Hi Doug 🖐. Citroën C6 is a very nice car. I live in France and the car is, or was, very popular with Taxi. It is constantly used as an elegant Uber VIP passenger limousine for example. Great video, Merci 😅
There are no vechicle age limitations in Uber?
A 15 year old high middle class car as an Uber Black limousine is kind of a rip off though. I would complain if someone shows up in that and I'm paying more than I would pay for a standard taxi.
@@stephans1990 I don't know, the ride quality and silence really counts. If you are going around Paris, I'd rather go around in an older C6 than a Megane
@@stephans1990 Hi 🖐Now that's the asshole driving SaintGobain's deputy president. The French love their car classics. It is similar with the presidents of the Fr republic, Renault Vel Satis is driving there
@@arthemis1039 Yeah, if you ordered a taxi. Almost all taxi's I have saved in my phone are older S-Classes for that reason. However, when we are talking about luxury transportation, I would say a young (
If you've ever owned a hatchback or a station wagon, the way the center rear seat seatbelt works isn't very unusual. Although I will say that's the first time I've seen it work that way on a sedan.
My mom's buick enclave has this and I was really confused when he said that
Definitely very common. My family had a Corolla Verso, same exact design.
@@SupraStar29 yeah my family has a verso. Same thing so can't be too unusual
"It actually gets unusually high" just like whoever designed it! XD
I love Citroen for all it's quirks & features. Fun fact I slept on the rear parcel shelf as a child when we toured Europe in the late 80's, might explain my attachment to them.
That deep purple paint with the light beige interior is pretty understated and nice.
Like how the exterior would be jelly and the interior peanut butter.