@DanielAvilaAGT I actually read an interview years ago, many years ago where she said her Grandmother from her father's side was African American and her Grandfather was Venezuelan. Most Venezuelan's are of European descent and her fathers last name is actually Nunez and he is of Spanish descent.
why is her race such a big deal? So what she's mixed white, black and venezuelan. She's a person and always been kind and loving to people. Just see her for who she is and not how much irish or black she is, it really doesnt matter.
Speaking as a ethnically mixed person, we are quite tired of having the world tell us where we fit or what group of people we need to identify with. We are mixed and it is what it is.
People are actually fighting over what she is when SHE JUST TOLD YOU! She explained it, her mother explained it. She is black, of color. She was never acknowledged as a white woman. She was much closer to her father's family. She explained it in her book for the billionth time. People just want the negativity.
Her Dad was Born in Harlem, raised as an African-American man..Roberto Nuñez which is his dad, mariah's grandpa changed his surname to Carey to better assimilate upon moving to the United States from Venezuela.
@101feven101 Mariah in a magazine in 1999 and in interviews in early mid 90s, and early 00s.. She has said that her great grandpa is afro Venezuelan.. but her great grandmother is black.. but then again many of the blacks here in the USA are mixed with native american..
@sandinyourshoes True. I agree, she always seems to avoid that. But when she went to Spain in 1994.. i could tell she was even more confused.. Spain is in Europe for all those people who don't know.. I'm talking about USA people.. So then if on her Venezuelan side, if it was just white Spanish.. (which i personally think could be Afro-Spanish(black and white) she could have a bit of aboriginal mixed in (which is native american)
some ppl here are so ignorant you don't judge if someone is black just by the color theres features on thier face and thier body type nad they way thier hair is the biggest thing on telling someone is black is curly hair wider nose fuller lips distinctive cheek bones and whatnot its not just color ppl!
@Falisia11 sorry, let me clarify. It does not apply to anyone of mixed raced (e.g. Moroccan/European) only if the mix includes a person of African Descent (e.g, Morroccan/African; Chinese/African; etc...
in the early part of her career she tried to deny that she was black, i remember i was like nine years old and she said she was italian and irish. now it helps her career she's black, remember 96-2000 latinos were doing it big. guess what she's spanish. can't wait for the asians to start shining, i bet she'll say her real name wong or some crap.
@Falisia11 I would say the rule, after so many years, has been ingrained in the psyche of Americans. Thus, it would apply to anyone of mixed raced from anywhere. That is, from the American viewpoint the person would be seen as black. Whereas, in British consciousness --they got rid of slavery 200 years b/f the US--a biracial person is a biracial person...Generally speaking of course..
@zio5q Well, it exists. Just like the who blue vein society, and brown paper bag rule (if your skin is the color of or lighter than a brown paper bag, then you're accepted, mostly it happens at black night clubs).
@krazyshorty89 'Latino' refers to people whose language derives from Latin: Italian, Spanish, Portuguese and technically French people... As far as I'm concerned "latinos" are pretty mixed up--'La Raza'. .. What I'm curious to know is if "Native American' referes to Native North & South American. I doubt he's "Cherokee" as opposed to Aztec or something like that.. :-)
@brownheartxxx It's a black person with a lighter brown skin tone vs a black person with a darker skintone.You know how u have tanned white people and pale,fair skined whites. well u have Dark skinned, brown skined and light skined African-Americans
@101feven101 Exactly, just because your 10% white doesn't make you white. Same with Mariah, just cause she's whatever percentage black doesn't mean shes black.. and just cause I'm latino and Latino in itself is a misconception, just an ethnic group of many nationalities formed into one and Spanish is the official language.. i'm still american at the end of the day.. :)
@boldechoco Then yeah,the one drop rule would apply to you .Most biracial people are grouped with the blacks.I don't wanna say white people aren't accepting of mix people in there own race,but they aren't as generally accepting like African-Americans are.mix people for the most part ,in america are considered black,and most African-Americans have mixed lineage,so we are all mixed in a sense. and the fact that majority of the time mixed children of black and white lineage look more black.
From what Mariah tells us about what ethnic backgrounds her parents have.. she's more "white" than anything. I understand the whole law thing about being black because of slavery and whatever. But if her mother is Irish, and her father is black AND venezuelan, than she's obviously more white. That rule is just too strange to me. If I'm 0.01% black and 99.99% asian, that makes me black? That doesn't make sense. Either way it doesn't matter. Mariah's insanely gorgeous.
i don't know why people are getting upset, damn they got upset back in 1995 when she worked with ODB, then they damn near died when she released the R&B influenced "Butterfly" face it, Mariah is more at home with African-American culture, it wasn't "to sell records" SHE WAS ALREADY SELLING, in fact she sold less when she released "Butterfly" BUT That didn't stop her, so if she identifies as black, then dammit she's BLACK!!!
She didn't punk out she just chose not do it..cause it was probably no tellin what elses he had in her..and she said race was difficult enough for her growing up.
And africa is so diverse we dont all walk around looking like sudannese ppl b4 the white man arrived. Infact the ppl of suddan against the south africa, agains the khohesians is a typical example of how different we look skin wise beautifully dark like the ppl of suddan to supper light like the igbo of nigeria.
@star917 but the original point was to point out the differnt skin tonalities amongst us black people. some people are just ignroant.anywyazin america Mariah is an African-AMERICAN in ano ther country who cares what they label her.
OK... many know this, but for those who dont;...Mariah's mother is IRISH. Mariah's father is 1/2 venezuelen + 1/2 afro american. SO she has the features of all her races. Maybe some of them are more prominent than others at times. But first and more importantly, she is a person just like we all are. So lets act like so and stop making this an issue.....
@101feven101 She said Its the law since slaveryany amount of black in you, you are black, in this country. That is not entirely accurate. She is referring to the so-called one drop rule, but those were state laws in southern US states, not a federal law; they were overturned and declared unconstitutional by the US Supreme Court about 40 years ago. So, the one drop rule is not legally valid.
@oanochie but what if on her Venezuelan side is mixed? you do know that all Latin america is mixed and remixed time and time again right? Spanish is white. in case you didn't know that. Spanish from Spain. The Spaniards. So it goes more deeper than JUST Venezuelan.. is to where i'm getting at..
@101feven101 It's not that i want her to be whatevr, its just that in the rule of USA.. for example if your' White.. and your mom is from south america or central america.. you still have to put Hispanic/latino. same with mariah father to his mom.. get me? simply because its the embrace of the nationality/ethnic group. hard to explain.. but yeah the one drop rule is what it is.. By the way.. I'm From Avila, Spain, in Europe. So i'm Caucasian. I live in the USA. FYI.
@101feven101 Mariah lied here. Or she got confused. Her great grandmother is black and her great grandpa is Afro-Venezuelan. I know because of the interviews she has done over the years and magazines i've read.. its okay, she got confused here.. Mariah is a rainbow.. beautiful :) i'm still looking for the interview video to prove to you.
actually being light skinned black doesnt mean ur definitely mixed blacks can arrive naturally with out mixing in all shades. In swaziland which was never affected by slavery or colonization u have light skinned pp;l. In nigeria the igbo ethinic group for eons have been known to come in light skined like rhianna. On site u can say they are mixed but they arent at all. So that theory is rubbish.
@krazyshorty89 But Venezuela is like the USA. There are Europeans, blacks, Asians and everything in between. When talking about race, being Venezuelan doesn't define her race.
@thekyramason Actually she's hardly black too.... she's50% white 37% black and 13% Latina based on how she identifies her parents... her mom was 100% Irish and her dad was 75% black and 25% venezualan... divide all of that by 2 and you get her geneology....
I know all of that,still even though us as black people have other thing in out blood line..we are still majority of African Ancerstry.because it shows in our DNA,features, culture. it's just like white americans have atleast 1 black ancestor or native.still when you look at them they r white.
By Latino you mean Native Americans of Venezuelan ?? There's lots of Blacks and many whites in Venezuela mixed and remixed too and the native people there being aborigines of Venezuela, also known as other tribes of American Indian(Native american) I'm not making stuff up.. it factualness Anyhow.. I think On her Venezuelan side, it's Native, White and a bit Black. and then White from her mom, and Half Black from her side and half Afro-Venezuelan.
ilooked her dad up and his father is venezuelan so thats why he is listed as afro venezuelan so she needs to stop telling people shes black she just didnt want to take the test cause it would have proved that she has more white in her than anythig
why do you say it's wrong? you can't help what your background is. My ethnic background is Jamaican, Scottish, Ghanian and Camaroon. I didn't choose it...I'm still me though
LMAO!! Hey, it was funny. LOL I still can't understand why someone would risk transporting their DNA via mail just to determine if they're really who they think they are OR should I say, the race they hope they should have been. SMDH and LOL at the same time.
they are black because they have black blood in them.they may not be 100% black thne agai no one is fully one race. especially in the African AMERICAN community. most of us only have 60 to 80% black blood in us.
ok so I am confused on his DNA it saids nothen about him being Latino..i don't get it so he is native American though..which is cool .but no latino but then again yaqui Indians did come fropm mexico so that could be what he could be
+sparrow Helm What do you think "latinos" are?. You can be a black latino, a mestizo or mixed latino (this what most people in america think when they hear someone is latino, and also this is what most of latinos actually are except for countrys like Uruguay, Argentina or the south of Brazil), you can be a native american latino or you can be a white latino.
@sgsfdgfsdfsdfsddf II HAVE HER FIRST cD,IT'S CALLED mARIAH cAREY.AND ON THAT ALBUM COVER SHE HAS REALLY CURLY HAIR LIKE BLACK PEOPLE AND SHE IS TAN. and how do u know if she tans for hours????
all light skined blacks people aren't mixed..Beyonce isn't mixed,Chris Brown isn't mixed,Rihanna she's from the Carribean where most of the black people are dark skinned and she's a light skinned black also. I'm sure you havr some light skined people in your family that are not mixed.I know i do.I have alot of light skined mixed black family along with the dark skinned ones also.
Oh lord,look it up they are not mixed both parents are black.Beyonce has some creole in her but that's about it. I'm sure u have white somewhere down the line 2.
@foripu and u obviously don't know nohting about Mariah.Her dad is actually black. idon't know what u hearedin the arly 90's but u need to get the story right.
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@DanielAvilaAGT I actually read an interview years ago, many years ago where she said her Grandmother from her father's side was African American and her Grandfather was Venezuelan. Most Venezuelan's are of European descent and her fathers last name is actually Nunez and he is of Spanish descent.
why is her race such a big deal? So what she's mixed white, black and venezuelan. She's a person and always been kind and loving to people. Just see her for who she is and not how much irish or black she is, it really doesnt matter.
Speaking as a ethnically mixed person, we are quite tired of having the world tell us where we fit or what group of people we need to identify with. We are mixed and it is what it is.
People are actually fighting over what she is when SHE JUST TOLD YOU! She explained it, her mother explained it. She is black, of color. She was never acknowledged as a white woman. She was much closer to her father's family. She explained it in her book for the billionth time. People just want the negativity.
Her Dad was Born in Harlem, raised as an African-American man..Roberto Nuñez which is his dad, mariah's grandpa changed his surname to Carey to better assimilate upon moving to the United States from Venezuela.
ILOVE HER ! \m/
@101feven101
Mariah in a magazine in 1999 and in interviews in early mid 90s, and early 00s.. She has said that her great grandpa is afro Venezuelan.. but her great grandmother is black.. but then again many of the blacks here in the USA are mixed with native american..
@sandinyourshoes
True. I agree, she always seems to avoid that. But when she went to Spain in 1994.. i could tell she was even more confused.. Spain is in Europe for all those people who don't know.. I'm talking about USA people.. So then if on her Venezuelan side, if it was just white Spanish.. (which i personally think could be Afro-Spanish(black and white) she could have a bit of aboriginal mixed in (which is native american)
some ppl here are so ignorant you don't judge if someone is black just by the color theres features on thier face and thier body type nad they way thier hair is the biggest thing on telling someone is black is curly hair wider nose fuller lips distinctive cheek bones and whatnot its not just color ppl!
@Falisia11 sorry, let me clarify. It does not apply to anyone of mixed raced (e.g. Moroccan/European) only if the mix includes a person of African Descent (e.g, Morroccan/African; Chinese/African; etc...
in the early part of her career she tried to deny that she was black, i remember i was like nine years old and she said she was italian and irish. now it helps her career she's black, remember 96-2000 latinos were doing it big. guess what she's spanish. can't wait for the asians to start shining, i bet she'll say her real name wong or some crap.
Mariah said her grandpas last name is Núñez.. she said it in an interview.. why u think im lying???
stop at 3:17
@payjani
The Spaniards(People of Spain) were the first white people to come to the Americas, then the French, Portuguese, and the English... FYI.
"I gotta put down black". LMAO!!!!!! George Lopez is a hilarious!!! Funny ish!
Where can I get that test kit?? It would be cool to know what I am :-)
she's being satirical
@Falisia11 I would say the rule, after so many years, has been ingrained in the psyche of Americans. Thus, it would apply to anyone of mixed raced from anywhere. That is, from the American viewpoint the person would be seen as black. Whereas, in British consciousness --they got rid of slavery 200 years b/f the US--a biracial person is a biracial person...Generally speaking of course..
@zio5q Well, it exists. Just like the who blue vein society, and brown paper bag rule (if your skin is the color of or lighter than a brown paper bag, then you're accepted, mostly it happens at black night clubs).
@krazyshorty89 'Latino' refers to people whose language derives from Latin: Italian, Spanish, Portuguese and technically French people...
As far as I'm concerned "latinos" are pretty mixed up--'La Raza'. ..
What I'm curious to know is if "Native American' referes to Native North & South American. I doubt he's "Cherokee" as opposed to Aztec or something like that.. :-)
@brownheartxxx It's a black person with a lighter brown skin tone vs a black person with a darker skintone.You know how u have tanned white people and pale,fair skined whites.
well u have Dark skinned, brown skined and light skined African-Americans
@jesusrocks311
I agree.
@101feven101
Exactly, just because your 10% white doesn't make you white. Same with Mariah, just cause she's whatever percentage black doesn't mean shes black.. and just cause I'm latino and Latino in itself is a misconception, just an ethnic group of many nationalities formed into one and Spanish is the official language.. i'm still american at the end of the day.. :)
@MrsGaGax: Actually no I am not an American, I am from Spain....
LOL at 3:39 !
Mariah is so cute !
LMFAO
ur so right !
@zio5q Rihanna isn't mixed,she is just light skinned black person. though she has white down the line,she isn't considered directly mixed like Mariah.
@d2roc pretty much. its not like she has no black in her. and even if she didnt, its nobodys business weather she identifies herself as black or white
@boldechoco Then yeah,the one drop rule would apply to you .Most biracial people are grouped with the blacks.I don't wanna say white people aren't accepting of mix people in there own race,but they aren't as generally accepting like African-Americans are.mix people for the most part ,in america are considered black,and most African-Americans have mixed lineage,so we are all mixed in a sense.
and the fact that majority of the time mixed children of black and white lineage look more black.
@boldechoco depends,what are you and where are you from?
From what Mariah tells us about what ethnic backgrounds her parents have.. she's more "white" than anything. I understand the whole law thing about being black because of slavery and whatever. But if her mother is Irish, and her father is black AND venezuelan, than she's obviously more white.
That rule is just too strange to me. If I'm 0.01% black and 99.99% asian, that makes me black? That doesn't make sense.
Either way it doesn't matter. Mariah's insanely gorgeous.
i don't know why people are getting upset, damn they got upset back in 1995 when she worked with ODB, then they damn near died when she released the R&B influenced "Butterfly" face it, Mariah is more at home with African-American culture, it wasn't "to sell records" SHE WAS ALREADY SELLING, in fact she sold less when she released "Butterfly" BUT That didn't stop her, so if she identifies as black, then dammit she's BLACK!!!
She didn't punk out she just chose not do it..cause it was probably no tellin what elses he had in her..and she said race was difficult enough for her growing up.
LOL man those Portuguese and Spaniards damn near populated the whole world didn't they?
Hehe, I'm mixed with British, Malaysian, Japanese and Canadian blood :)
And africa is so diverse we dont all walk around looking like sudannese ppl b4 the white man arrived. Infact the ppl of suddan against the south africa, agains the khohesians is a typical example of how different we look skin wise beautifully dark like the ppl of suddan to supper light like the igbo of nigeria.
@gshunw i love your reply.
@star917 but the original point was to point out the differnt skin tonalities amongst us black people.
some people are just ignroant.anywyazin america Mariah is an African-AMERICAN in ano ther country who cares what they label her.
OK... many know this, but for those who dont;...Mariah's mother is IRISH. Mariah's father is 1/2 venezuelen + 1/2 afro american. SO she has the features of all her races. Maybe some of them are more prominent than others at times. But first and more importantly, she is a person just like we all are. So lets act like so and stop making this an issue.....
lol, I wonder where can you go to get tests like that?
@101feven101
She said Its the law since slaveryany amount of black in you, you are black, in this country. That is not entirely accurate. She is referring to the so-called one drop rule, but those were state laws in southern US states, not a federal law; they were overturned and declared unconstitutional by the US Supreme Court about 40 years ago. So, the one drop rule is not legally valid.
i wanna take a dna test so bad
@oanochie
but what if on her Venezuelan side is mixed?
you do know that all Latin america is mixed and remixed time and time again right?
Spanish is white. in case you didn't know that. Spanish from Spain. The Spaniards. So it goes more deeper than JUST Venezuelan.. is to where i'm getting at..
@101feven101
It's not that i want her to be whatevr, its just that in the rule of USA.. for example if your' White.. and your mom is from south america or central america.. you still have to put Hispanic/latino. same with mariah father to his mom.. get me? simply because its the embrace of the nationality/ethnic group. hard to explain.. but yeah the one drop rule is what it is..
By the way.. I'm From Avila, Spain, in Europe. So i'm Caucasian. I live in the USA. FYI.
@zio5q Well, in America stuff like this still happens. It sucks that we still have laws from slavery, but it is what it is...
@Viconiuz Her dad is black. Look up "Alfred Roy Carey".
@101feven101
Mariah lied here. Or she got confused. Her great grandmother is black and her great grandpa is Afro-Venezuelan. I know because of the interviews she has done over the years and magazines i've read.. its okay, she got confused here..
Mariah is a rainbow.. beautiful :)
i'm still looking for the interview video to prove to you.
actually being light skinned black doesnt mean ur definitely mixed blacks can arrive naturally with out mixing in all shades. In swaziland which was never affected by slavery or colonization u have light skinned pp;l. In nigeria the igbo ethinic group for eons have been known to come in light skined like rhianna. On site u can say they are mixed but they arent at all. So that theory is rubbish.
@gshunw yes we did im spaniard were superior ")
SHE'S 1/4 BLACK
She more black than that..it’s in her memoir. Her paternal grandmother is African American and her paternal grandfather is Afro Venuzuelan.
well my new video, on my page, will answer your question.
@krazyshorty89
But Venezuela is like the USA. There are Europeans, blacks, Asians and everything in between. When talking about race, being Venezuelan doesn't define her race.
@thekyramason Actually she's hardly black too.... she's50% white 37% black and 13% Latina based on how she identifies her parents... her mom was 100% Irish and her dad was 75% black and 25% venezualan... divide all of that by 2 and you get her geneology....
I know all of that,still even though us as black people have other thing in out blood line..we are still majority of African Ancerstry.because it shows in our DNA,features, culture. it's just like white americans have atleast 1 black ancestor or native.still when you look at them they r white.
By Latino you mean Native Americans of Venezuelan ?? There's lots of Blacks and many whites in Venezuela mixed and remixed too and the native people there being aborigines of Venezuela, also known as other tribes of American Indian(Native american)
I'm not making stuff up.. it factualness Anyhow.. I think On her Venezuelan side, it's Native, White and a bit Black. and then White from her mom, and Half Black from her side and half Afro-Venezuelan.
I'M BLACK!!!!!! Lmaoo nice one George Hahah!!!
ilooked her dad up and his father is venezuelan so thats why he is listed as afro venezuelan so she needs to stop telling people shes black she just didnt want to take the test cause it would have proved that she has more white in her than anythig
"IM BLACK" hahahahhahha
why do you say it's wrong? you can't help what your background is.
My ethnic background is Jamaican, Scottish, Ghanian and Camaroon. I didn't choose it...I'm still me though
LMAO!! Hey, it was funny. LOL I still can't understand why someone would risk transporting their DNA via mail just to determine if they're really who they think they are OR should I say, the race they hope they should have been. SMDH and LOL at the same time.
@brownheartxxx lookin like u came straight of the damn grill!
they are black because they have black blood in them.they may not be 100% black thne agai no one is fully one race.
especially in the African AMERICAN community. most of us only have 60 to 80% black blood in us.
Like my mom is dark skined and my dadis Afro-Asian.
no she is not how the heck is she drunk
My last name is actually Irish...LOl...Im Black tho but my momz is mixed with sum Native American...but I kno itz sum White in there...LMBO
no your not!..then again it's the law! =)
@clowner1301 ya mama
LMFAOOO
ok so I am confused on his DNA it saids nothen about him being Latino..i don't get it so he is native American though..which is cool .but no latino but then again yaqui Indians did come fropm mexico so that could be what he could be
+sparrow Helm What do you think "latinos" are?. You can be a black latino, a mestizo or mixed latino (this what most people in america think when they hear someone is latino, and also this is what most of latinos actually are except for countrys like Uruguay, Argentina or the south of Brazil), you can be a native american latino or you can be a white latino.
+sparrow Helm lmao what
@sgsfdgfsdfsdfsddf II HAVE HER FIRST cD,IT'S CALLED mARIAH cAREY.AND ON THAT ALBUM COVER SHE HAS REALLY CURLY HAIR LIKE BLACK PEOPLE AND SHE IS TAN.
and how do u know if she tans for hours????
Y does she talk so slow?
@brownheartxxx What's it your business, you racist. Look at how beautiful this woman is.
all light skined blacks people aren't mixed..Beyonce isn't mixed,Chris Brown isn't mixed,Rihanna she's from the Carribean where most of the black people are dark skinned and she's a light skinned black also.
I'm sure you havr some light skined people in your family that are not mixed.I know i do.I have alot of light skined mixed black family along with the dark skinned ones also.
Um..... shouldnt she know her own race. What if I said you were half turkish and afro-german.
Oh lord,look it up they are not mixed both parents are black.Beyonce has some creole in her but that's about it.
I'm sure u have white somewhere down the line 2.
@foripu and u obviously don't know nohting about Mariah.Her dad is actually black.
idon't know what u hearedin the arly 90's but u need to get the story right.
mariah is not black look on her skin WHITE but i don't understand how she can be white when her dad is black
no sorry her mom is white her dad is black. cant be just white shes mixed. but what is so bad about that?
was she drunk during the interview??/ cause it sure looked like it
Who fucking cares, that is so off topic.
she's drunk
So immature..and random