Absolutely right! Over the years (I’m old) I have bought craftsman and now Harbor Freight just to get by and do a job until the tool pays for itself and earns a better tool. I put 10% of every job charged aside for future tools and now have the shop of my dreams. I think I would have bought a divider head with a 5” head and hook up a small motor to it with an adjustable speed motor. It’s an easy and cheaper way to have a rotating welding table.
Do you think it's possible to bolt a bigger chuck on to do 4" exhaust tubing? How would u purge is the center hollow? Wanting something to do stainless turbo hot side and aluminum cold side.
I've been looking at these; the main concern was the minimum speed - its advertised as 2 to 10 rpm, glad to see that the slowest speed is well below that advertised 2 rpm, seems that would be a bit large for lets say that 3" exhaust vband.
Ciao, ho acquistato lo stesso prodotto ed oggi lo ho usato per la prima volta, il mandrino in effetti ha due posizioni esterne ed interne. Non ha singola posizione esterno e interno come pensi. In pratica sfila le griffe o denti del mandrino e poi rovesciale e rimettile nel mandrino. Se non lo hai ancora provato ricorda che hanno una posizione di inserimento numerata: 1 - 2 - 3 su ambo i lati a seconda in quale verso li vai ad inserire. Quando li inserisci ruoterai in senso orario la flangia e vedrai l'attacco esterno della madrevite senza fine posizionarsi sotto ognuno dei 3 canali. Li metti uno alla volta in senso orario rispettando l'ordine numerico. Alla fine fai un paio di rotazioni complete per verificare il corretto allineamento. Il prodotto è buono, l'unica perplessità è che la velocita di rotazione minima è sufficiente ma avrei preferito una velocità ancora piu' bassa per i grossi diametri. La velocita max è veloce ma puo' essere utile per la smerigliatura o tornitura eseguita a mano con una piccola smerigliatrice pneumatica o altro abrasivo.
Definitely can not complain for the price. I doubt many need to be reminded that you get what you pay for. I brought the ebay 50kg version after waiting too long to build one myself ?? The only downside was i needed to modify it to suit my type of work. IF, anyone is weighing up buying the ebay version i have 3 videos posted that Might help answer some of your questions. ( apologises for high jacking your channel to promote my channel, it's only about sharing information ) Great to see you sharing the good information with those who are interested to watch. All the best. Peter.
The three inch chuck is the size of the body, just like a lathe wood or metal. The pedal idea is good but that is more of a dead man switch, if something happens it stops immediately. And yes would like to see steady rest ideas.
To get a more useful size, you have to go to the bigger $500-550 models. These little ones just can’t work with anything even approaching a modest weight. Turn it horizontally, and the weight limit drops further, and with the tiny chuck and short jaws, the work just falls off. You’d need a tailstock to hold it, if the motor doesn’t stall. But if all you do is small stuff, it seems ok.
@@luisetorres5760 no particular brand. These are all Chinese products. There seem to be two somewhat different versions. Whether they’re made by different companies, I don’t know. But, you know, with Chinese products found on eBay and Amazon, the “brand” doesn’t make a difference as they are the same. They’re all actually fine. They’re not intended for professional use. But when you get to the higher tier, around $800 something and up, they’re pretty good as are most all Chinese products on the more expensive categories. I’ve tried a few, and they all seem fine, writhing they’re rated limits. Just be careful about the chucks. Some that are just small lathe chucks are too small for wider parts, even if they’re short, and not heavy. So think about the widest thing you’ll put on them.
Lathe chucks are rated by the diameter of the body, not the capacity it can hold. That said, if you turn the jaws around you shouldn't have any problem holding a 3" diameter tube.
I just got the same positioner and tried switching the jaws but they bind up when flipped and the little tabs that lock in with the threads seem to be angled slightly so they’ll only go in one way. They’re also labeled 1-3 with corresponding locations.
I was eyeballing an amazon special or eBay fixer upper... I ended up taking parts from the scrap bin...allthread, nuts and washers, 2 1” bearings, 6” length of 1” round stock, 2 I-beam shims. Mine doesn’t have a chuck, but it’s a simple tool I just haven’t played with too much.
Nice man I've been looking at that unit was as surprised as you at size. Also why not make make drop side bench off the fab table to make it right height?
@@amcustomfab you should be able to spin the "jaws" around... to clamp bigger things. You will probably need to spin them all the way out and you should be able to reverse them and spin them back in.
I bought this unit and did not get the clip and carbon brush to allow the unit to give the ability to use the turntable for Welding. I've contacted vevor about this and am getting the runaround. They said it's a consumable they drop $60 off, and I then needed to find the brush and clip. I said no way either send the part or give me a return label and a full refund. I wouldn't have any idea where to buy the part and I'm assuming by there reply they don't offer replacement parts rendering it worthless in time. Bad business practice.
I can tell that your technique is not very good even without a positioner. You cannot feed rod. Learn that first. Then get a real job where you have to use a positioner and don't try to learn at your home shop otherwise, you'll develop more bad habits. I wish I could say that I learned something but I'd be lying.
it's a video about a positioner...not how to be a pro welder. Also there's a way to give tips without coming off like a.... Man I hate people on YT sometimes.
The three inch chuck is the size of the body, just like a lathe wood or metal. The pedal idea is good but that is more of a dead man switch, if something happens it stops immediately. And yes would like to see steady rest ideas.
The three inch chuck is the size of the body, just like a lathe wood or metal. The pedal idea is good but that is more of a dead man switch, if something happens it stops immediately. And yes would like to see steady rest ideas.
The three inch chuck is the size of the body, just like a lathe wood or metal. The pedal idea is good but that is more of a dead man switch, if something happens it stops immediately just like the tig pedal. And yes would like to see steady rest ideas.
Reverse the jaws on the chuck. They’re numbered 1,2,3 and go back in the corresponding slots in the chuck. That way you’ll achieve the 3” opening!
You can't reverse jaws on a scroll. You either need a different set, bolt in Jaws, or a 4 jaw independent chuck
That chuck will do 3” you have to switch the jaws around. And it will accept three inches.
Thanks!
Absolutely right! Over the years (I’m old) I have bought craftsman and now Harbor Freight just to get by and do a job until the tool pays for itself and earns a better tool. I put 10% of every job charged aside for future tools and now have the shop of my dreams. I think I would have bought a divider head with a 5” head and hook up a small motor to it with an adjustable speed motor. It’s an easy and cheaper way to have a rotating welding table.
Nice review, very helpful, and you even showed it in use👍👍
Do you think it's possible to bolt a bigger chuck on to do 4" exhaust tubing? How would u purge is the center hollow? Wanting something to do stainless turbo hot side and aluminum cold side.
A chuck is normally measured by the outside diameter of the body of the chuck.
3" Outside diameter in this case.
I've been looking at these; the main concern was the minimum speed - its advertised as 2 to 10 rpm, glad to see that the slowest speed is well below that advertised 2 rpm, seems that would be a bit large for lets say that 3" exhaust vband.
Ciao, ho acquistato lo stesso prodotto ed oggi lo ho usato per la prima volta, il mandrino in effetti ha due posizioni esterne ed interne. Non ha singola posizione esterno e interno come pensi. In pratica sfila le griffe o denti del mandrino e poi rovesciale e rimettile nel mandrino. Se non lo hai ancora provato ricorda che hanno una posizione di inserimento numerata: 1 - 2 - 3 su ambo i lati a seconda in quale verso li vai ad inserire. Quando li inserisci ruoterai in senso orario la flangia e vedrai l'attacco esterno della madrevite senza fine posizionarsi sotto ognuno dei 3 canali. Li metti uno alla volta in senso orario rispettando l'ordine numerico. Alla fine fai un paio di rotazioni complete per verificare il corretto allineamento.
Il prodotto è buono, l'unica perplessità è che la velocita di rotazione minima è sufficiente ma avrei preferito una velocità ancora piu' bassa per i grossi diametri. La velocita max è veloce ma puo' essere utile per la smerigliatura o tornitura eseguita a mano con una piccola smerigliatrice pneumatica o altro abrasivo.
Definitely can not complain for the price.
I doubt many need to be reminded that you get what you pay for.
I brought the ebay 50kg version after waiting too long to build one myself ??
The only downside was i needed to modify it to suit my type of work.
IF, anyone is weighing up buying the ebay version i have 3 videos posted that Might help answer some of your questions.
( apologises for high jacking your channel to promote my channel, it's only about sharing information )
Great to see you sharing the good information with those who are interested to watch.
All the best.
Peter.
Awesome video very well made too you killed it man.
Also a foot pedal control would be awesome.
How about the grnd connection to such a small screw????
in the Amazon listing it has a KC 65 or a KC80 chuck listed you obviously got the smaller one
Hi mate, can you run argon up the canter for back purging?
Unfortunately you can't with this one
The three inch chuck is the size of the body, just like a lathe wood or metal. The pedal idea is good but that is more of a dead man switch, if something happens it stops immediately. And yes would like to see steady rest ideas.
Those welds looked pretty darn good.
Thanks for the video, how did you make sure that the tube and base plate are in position and stable before you welded them together
I had a bolt going through the plate in this case and that is what I was clamped to
Omg I need this for exhaust work
please show us how you have the ground arranged.
@7:20 use a jack stand instead! works great!
Brilliant..
To get a more useful size, you have to go to the bigger $500-550 models. These little ones just can’t work with anything even approaching a modest weight. Turn it horizontally, and the weight limit drops further, and with the tiny chuck and short jaws, the work just falls off. You’d need a tailstock to hold it, if the motor doesn’t stall. But if all you do is small stuff, it seems ok.
What brand in particular?
@@luisetorres5760 no particular brand. These are all Chinese products. There seem to be two somewhat different versions. Whether they’re made by different companies, I don’t know. But, you know, with Chinese products found on eBay and Amazon, the “brand” doesn’t make a difference as they are the same. They’re all actually fine. They’re not intended for professional use. But when you get to the higher tier, around $800 something and up, they’re pretty good as are most all Chinese products on the more expensive categories.
I’ve tried a few, and they all seem fine, writhing they’re rated limits. Just be careful about the chucks. Some that are just small lathe chucks are too small for wider parts, even if they’re short, and not heavy. So think about the widest thing you’ll put on them.
How did u make the magnet ground
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Great video man. To the point. Subscribed
Thanks for watching 🙏👊😎
@@amcustomfab Rewatching this.. Do the slow speeds seem to spin evenly to you? In the video it seemed maybe a little joggy.
There is a point at the very slowest sometimes you get a slight jog
which model is this exactly?
Don't remember exactly try to remember to peek next time I'm out in the shop
.63 to 12.7 RPM if I'm not mistaken.
That's pretty good particularly on the low end.
How was the welding current capacity? I noticed all of these cheap positioners are only rated for 80 amps, I to weld at 180 amps without damaging it.
I needed up the ground cable
Lathe chucks are rated by the diameter of the body, not the capacity it can hold. That said, if you turn the jaws around you shouldn't have any problem holding a 3" diameter tube.
I just got the same positioner and tried switching the jaws but they bind up when flipped and the little tabs that lock in with the threads seem to be angled slightly so they’ll only go in one way. They’re also labeled 1-3 with corresponding locations.
But extra jaws and weld on extensions for bigger stocks.
Build you a adapter for it to use larger diameter stuff!
Chucks are measured by the outside diameter of the body.
I was eyeballing an amazon special or eBay fixer upper... I ended up taking parts from the scrap bin...allthread, nuts and washers, 2 1” bearings, 6” length of 1” round stock, 2 I-beam shims. Mine doesn’t have a chuck, but it’s a simple tool I just haven’t played with too much.
Nice man I've been looking at that unit was as surprised as you at size. Also why not make make drop side bench off the fab table to make it right height?
I have considered that.
@@amcustomfab you should be able to spin the "jaws" around... to clamp bigger things.
You will probably need to spin them all the way out and you should be able to reverse them and spin them back in.
Bought one, thanks man
Measurement of the chuck is by chuck not by the jaws
looks like rotation is kind of fast, slower the better 1/2 rpm min.- 10,15 rpm
I bought this unit and did not get the clip and carbon brush to allow the unit to give the ability to use the turntable for Welding. I've contacted vevor about this and am getting the runaround. They said it's a consumable they drop $60 off, and I then needed to find the brush and clip. I said no way either send the part or give me a return label and a full refund. I wouldn't have any idea where to buy the part and I'm assuming by there reply they don't offer replacement parts rendering it worthless in time. Bad business practice.
Dude, I'm sorry that's not good
The motor certainly is missing a cover over the contacts and a fixing for the cable. I see it breaking off in no time.
No1❤
My gound dose not tuch the plate
Good video
That’s not how machine chucks work. They are measured from the OD of the chuck body not the opening of the jaws.
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I have one of these and it’s junk! The slow speed it’s not slow enough.
Interesting... Size does matters 🙄😂😂🍷
👍👍😎👍👍
I can tell that your technique is not very good even without a positioner. You cannot feed rod. Learn that first. Then get a real job where you have to use a positioner and don't try to learn at your home shop otherwise, you'll develop more bad habits. I wish I could say that I learned something but I'd be lying.
it's a video about a positioner...not how to be a pro welder. Also there's a way to give tips without coming off like a.... Man I hate people on YT sometimes.
The three inch chuck is the size of the body, just like a lathe wood or metal. The pedal idea is good but that is more of a dead man switch, if something happens it stops immediately. And yes would like to see steady rest ideas.
The three inch chuck is the size of the body, just like a lathe wood or metal. The pedal idea is good but that is more of a dead man switch, if something happens it stops immediately. And yes would like to see steady rest ideas.
The three inch chuck is the size of the body, just like a lathe wood or metal. The pedal idea is good but that is more of a dead man switch, if something happens it stops immediately just like the tig pedal. And yes would like to see steady rest ideas.