I can explain why. It is a very high wish investment team and takes 2 of the most OP supports in game. I did say it was high investment but regardless of that it is still a fun team to play. Also a really easy rotation too so not super high skill level to pull off.
Worst rule ever. 👎 Everyone always blames Keqing as only about she can't be powerful as everyone. I've searched for Keqing's guides in eons now, but nothing news at all. I'm in boredom and depressed because everyone is restricted Keqing to playing only with Aggravate, and can't allowing Keqing to play with Quickbloom/Hyperbloom as worst reasons about this new reaction is weaker than Aggravate for her.
@@VrtielA6300 Well this is using Keqing as quickbloom so she is doing both aggravates and hyperbloom reactions. She is built with more EM which helps with both. As far as using strong supports with her most damage showcases with any character is done with top supports. As for hyperbloom only her application isn't as regular as Kuki so overall DPS will be lower than Kuki so thats why quickbloom is better. This is a solid team but Keqing's role in a party overlaps with Cyno and Yae Miko. Cyno being the master of electro driver quickbloom and Yae Miko with her aggravates. IMO Keqing is a very capable character. I killed SIMON in 27 seconds, Jadeplume in 30 seconds, and Icewind in 37 seconds. In true abyss viability you need to kill one half of abyss in under 90 seconds or under 60 seconds if other half is especially tough. These times shows Keqing is more than perfectly viable and saying "X character better!!" may only mean something on speed running competitions. I think you are looking for something showing Keqing is the top meta choice and sadly being a standard banner character she is not. At least she is still a solid character to use but she isnt top meta in the game.
@@tetsuclaw At almost reaching 3 years ago now. It's about Keqing's banner's atonement in 1.3 due to the superstition about Hu Tao as the chinese's bad luck. But everyone are totally skipped Keqing for Hu Tao only. Which is both of Hu Tao and Bennett ruined Keqing so badly. I did roll for Keqing, but never got her, neither of win or lose. Everyone always take only just Keqing to comparing with every characters about damages only. Everyone always blamed her potentials without looking her kits deeper than only just last slice from her EB (Elemental Burst). I wishing to buffing Keqing so badly, but still impossible. And everyone demands to demote her rarity due to her power level does not proper as her own rarity. Since the Zhongli's test run in 4.0 (I think?), There's Keqing within his test run team. Keqing has so many of rivals about power... All only just everyone do better than her. Makes of death threatener META Slaves coercing someone reject her for better characters if only for Spiral Abyss purposes.
@@VrtielA6300 I don't think Keqing should be demoted to a 4 star. She is a 5 star and is a perfectly viable character ingame. People toss out "META" a lot and just because a character isnt the absolute best in the game to be considered META that doesn't mean they are a bad character. Not every character can be considered "The Best". Now at the same time standard banner characters should not be the best in the game either but at the same time I would want all standard characters to have something they are good at. Keqing has fast electro application between her burst and charge attack spam but also isnt super dependent on needing a ton of field time so she works will with giving supports their time to shine. Aggravate teams make good use of her kit but Furina is great at making her into a quickbloom DPS. You can get Keqing to be the damage carry on a team and have comfortable floor 12 max star clears using her. Sure she has her best supports that are ideal to be used with her but the same can be said about just about every damage carry out there. Hu Tao loves Yelan and Xingqiu, Itto loves Gorou and Zhongli, Cyno loves Baizhu, etc. It is also true that Keqing's power ingame now is far greater than it was during Inazuma and before. Prior to dendro we could not fully make use of her strengths but as time went on we now can. I got no problems with where Keqing is in power and I will continue to use her for floor 12 clears because she is ample strong to do so.
If you use skill before burst the character that bursts can pick up some of their own particles after their energy hits 0 without having to force extra field time out on them.
@@Smashingg Yeah, particles takes time to reach your character after you use the E skill. It can be done the other way around but it all depends on who you intend to collect the particles. Using Nahida as an example: E before burst = she gets the particles. Burst before E = next character you switch to gets the particles. If the next character really needs the energy so they can burst it is a viable thing to do but if they already have their burst charged it is a waste to do it that way. Another thing to consider is efficiency of the particles. If a particle is picked up on field character of same element gets 3 energy, different element 1 energy. When off field same element gets 1.8 energy and other element gets 0.6 energy. Energy orbs (the really big particles) is basically x3 for the previously listed numbers. This is at 100% ER.
@@tetsuclaw Great explanation tysm for clarifying! I always wondered where my particles are because people talked about it in videos but I never see them on my screen so I had visually no clue. I thought it was an skill gets instant %ER so after skill when having no burst I instant swap out. Makes so much more sense now because I wondered why I had no %ER on the char before I did a skill with when switching back.
Tbh seems a downgrade to me. Keqing really doesn't want double dendro in general, she stood out for her quick electro application, which really doesn't matter too much if you don't run Fischl with her and Keqing's talent damage isn't too significant without serious team help. Double dendro at base is really, really bad with her. You lose like half the team's damage if you run Baizhi over Kazuha. Now, running Furina over Kazuha is fine. So the team should be Keqing/Fischl/Furina + Baizu or Nahida. Baizhu is a healer, so he has synergy with Furina, but his solo dendro application is garbage tbh, stronger application is needed in this team. So you gotta use PAmber Nahida with healing bonus circlet. Now gotta get around to testing it myself. Edit: performs fine, but C0 Kazu was still better with Keq than my C2 Furina. Seems not worth it, lost aggravate uptime hurts the damage. Trading all AOE for worse ST isn't a good idea.
@@puchi5883 Maybe if Keqing and Fischl don't have 5 star weapons or Nahida isn't C2 or smth( though it affects the other team just as much), because I tested it on bosses and it was just worse or at best, nearly equal. I think it comes down to the fact that you don't need to cast long animation bursts on Aggravate version. Keqing has 100% uptime and you sawap very briefly to refresh stuff. With Furina, you have to cast both her and Nahida's bursts, which is 4 seconds of dps lost every 18s. Plus some lost aggravates and it comes out to a worse ST performance overall.
I have been playing tighnari, fischl, keqing, Kazuha. It's pretty fun.
Amazing video! I will definitely try out furina in my team instead of kazuha
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C2 Nahida and C4 Furina isn't really a Keqing showcase at that point.
Yeah, the nature of Genshin teams is that the supports make the carry lol. The better the supports the better the carry is.
Using 3 featured banner supports and 1 standard banner main dps just seems kinda wrong but i can't explain why
I can explain why. It is a very high wish investment team and takes 2 of the most OP supports in game. I did say it was high investment but regardless of that it is still a fun team to play. Also a really easy rotation too so not super high skill level to pull off.
Worst rule ever. 👎
Everyone always blames Keqing as only about she can't be powerful as everyone. I've searched for Keqing's guides in eons now, but nothing news at all.
I'm in boredom and depressed because everyone is restricted Keqing to playing only with Aggravate, and can't allowing Keqing to play with Quickbloom/Hyperbloom as worst reasons about this new reaction is weaker than Aggravate for her.
@@VrtielA6300 Well this is using Keqing as quickbloom so she is doing both aggravates and hyperbloom reactions. She is built with more EM which helps with both. As far as using strong supports with her most damage showcases with any character is done with top supports. As for hyperbloom only her application isn't as regular as Kuki so overall DPS will be lower than Kuki so thats why quickbloom is better. This is a solid team but Keqing's role in a party overlaps with Cyno and Yae Miko. Cyno being the master of electro driver quickbloom and Yae Miko with her aggravates.
IMO Keqing is a very capable character. I killed SIMON in 27 seconds, Jadeplume in 30 seconds, and Icewind in 37 seconds. In true abyss viability you need to kill one half of abyss in under 90 seconds or under 60 seconds if other half is especially tough. These times shows Keqing is more than perfectly viable and saying "X character better!!" may only mean something on speed running competitions.
I think you are looking for something showing Keqing is the top meta choice and sadly being a standard banner character she is not. At least she is still a solid character to use but she isnt top meta in the game.
@@tetsuclaw At almost reaching 3 years ago now. It's about Keqing's banner's atonement in 1.3 due to the superstition about Hu Tao as the chinese's bad luck. But everyone are totally skipped Keqing for Hu Tao only. Which is both of Hu Tao and Bennett ruined Keqing so badly. I did roll for Keqing, but never got her, neither of win or lose.
Everyone always take only just Keqing to comparing with every characters about damages only.
Everyone always blamed her potentials without looking her kits deeper than only just last slice from her EB (Elemental Burst).
I wishing to buffing Keqing so badly, but still impossible. And everyone demands to demote her rarity due to her power level does not proper as her own rarity. Since the Zhongli's test run in 4.0 (I think?), There's Keqing within his test run team.
Keqing has so many of rivals about power... All only just everyone do better than her. Makes of death threatener META Slaves coercing someone reject her for better characters if only for Spiral Abyss purposes.
@@VrtielA6300 I don't think Keqing should be demoted to a 4 star. She is a 5 star and is a perfectly viable character ingame. People toss out "META" a lot and just because a character isnt the absolute best in the game to be considered META that doesn't mean they are a bad character. Not every character can be considered "The Best". Now at the same time standard banner characters should not be the best in the game either but at the same time I would want all standard characters to have something they are good at. Keqing has fast electro application between her burst and charge attack spam but also isnt super dependent on needing a ton of field time so she works will with giving supports their time to shine. Aggravate teams make good use of her kit but Furina is great at making her into a quickbloom DPS.
You can get Keqing to be the damage carry on a team and have comfortable floor 12 max star clears using her. Sure she has her best supports that are ideal to be used with her but the same can be said about just about every damage carry out there. Hu Tao loves Yelan and Xingqiu, Itto loves Gorou and Zhongli, Cyno loves Baizhu, etc.
It is also true that Keqing's power ingame now is far greater than it was during Inazuma and before. Prior to dendro we could not fully make use of her strengths but as time went on we now can. I got no problems with where Keqing is in power and I will continue to use her for floor 12 clears because she is ample strong to do so.
it's not a keqing buff...it's at best a electro buff
Which also includes Keqing!
Skill > Burst? You must be joking
If you use skill before burst the character that bursts can pick up some of their own particles after their energy hits 0 without having to force extra field time out on them.
@@tetsuclaw Then I learned it the wrong way.. sorry mb! I'm new to the game and someone told me different
@@Smashingg Yeah, particles takes time to reach your character after you use the E skill. It can be done the other way around but it all depends on who you intend to collect the particles.
Using Nahida as an example: E before burst = she gets the particles. Burst before E = next character you switch to gets the particles. If the next character really needs the energy so they can burst it is a viable thing to do but if they already have their burst charged it is a waste to do it that way.
Another thing to consider is efficiency of the particles. If a particle is picked up on field character of same element gets 3 energy, different element 1 energy. When off field same element gets 1.8 energy and other element gets 0.6 energy. Energy orbs (the really big particles) is basically x3 for the previously listed numbers. This is at 100% ER.
@@tetsuclaw Great explanation tysm for clarifying! I always wondered where my particles are because people talked about it in videos but I never see them on my screen so I had visually no clue. I thought it was an skill gets instant %ER so after skill when having no burst I instant swap out. Makes so much more sense now because I wondered why I had no %ER on the char before I did a skill with when switching back.
@@Smashingg glowing balls of light coloured slightly corresponding their element -- hence particles
Tbh seems a downgrade to me. Keqing really doesn't want double dendro in general, she stood out for her quick electro application, which really doesn't matter too much if you don't run Fischl with her and Keqing's talent damage isn't too significant without serious team help. Double dendro at base is really, really bad with her. You lose like half the team's damage if you run Baizhi over Kazuha.
Now, running Furina over Kazuha is fine. So the team should be Keqing/Fischl/Furina + Baizu or Nahida. Baizhu is a healer, so he has synergy with Furina, but his solo dendro application is garbage tbh, stronger application is needed in this team. So you gotta use PAmber Nahida with healing bonus circlet. Now gotta get around to testing it myself.
Edit: performs fine, but C0 Kazu was still better with Keq than my C2 Furina. Seems not worth it, lost aggravate uptime hurts the damage. Trading all AOE for worse ST isn't a good idea.
As my through: Hyperbloom is better for boss content and aggravate with kazuha for AOE.
@@puchi5883 Maybe if Keqing and Fischl don't have 5 star weapons or Nahida isn't C2 or smth( though it affects the other team just as much), because I tested it on bosses and it was just worse or at best, nearly equal.
I think it comes down to the fact that you don't need to cast long animation bursts on Aggravate version. Keqing has 100% uptime and you sawap very briefly to refresh stuff. With Furina, you have to cast both her and Nahida's bursts, which is 4 seconds of dps lost every 18s. Plus some lost aggravates and it comes out to a worse ST performance overall.
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