ICF Window Bucks
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- Опубліковано 27 бер 2023
- Nudura created these window bucks that save us time, labor and money on the jobsite! Check them out for your next ICF project.
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I used these on a project and very glad I did. Very strong and stable.
I wonder if after the walls are poured, could you route out a thermal break channel between the two dovetail channels. If you're fanatical about it, isolate the whole thing, or if you're only a little fanatical, don't route out all the way to the concrete and don't worry about routing at all near the corners. Just throwing the idea out there, trying to keep you Canadians warm!🤣
My walls are being poured at noon tomorrow, and I saw these being used on the window = I'm a happy camper.
That’s amazing! How did the pour go ? (I know it was a while back) . Did you take the ICF to the roof?
Good timing Kody, I literally just put in a quote for this last week. 👍
That's going to make my life easier! Thanks Kodey.
So nice 👍🏻
I understand the wood but the insulation is handicapped and you have the possibility of wood rot. I would like an insulation cap and a vinyl "stud" for the attachment of windows integrated into the buck. The bracing of the buck comes out and the new windows go in by attachment to the vinyl stud.
Some manufacturers have a vinyl buck. I’ve never used one but it does have some benefits.
Kody, what's the most typical icf exterior concrete wall for icf for the money? Was going to go with 12" nudura concrete icf wall.
Is this better than using 2 by 12 pt which my builder wants to use, taking cost and time in consideration.
Ground contact PT is the way to go. I still prefer to use 2×10 ripped down to 8" for an innie buck on an 8" core. Using sill gasket or peel and stick on the backside before you put screws or spikes into it still isn't a bad idea though.
This allows the foam to thermally break the wooden buck material. If it's a flanged window you just need longer screws to reach the wood. If it's a german/European tilt and turn it's best to inset the window instead of flush with the outside for best thermal performance.
Some people will argue that outie bucks whether from PT, SPF or an engineered product (lsl, psl, lvl) all have an r-value of 0.7 to 1 per inch which gives you up to R-13 on an 8" core wall is plenty as even the best windows are R-12 (double pain vacuum insulated) or R-7 to R-8 with argon/krypton fill and 2 panes with Low Emissivity coatings. I still prefer the insulated buck and wood for easier attachment. If metal jamb extensions are allowed by the customer on these tilt and turn windows, then a guy can install 2" of EPS or GPS around the perimeter to further insulate the window frame and then cover with metal.
I’m sold on ICF.. but I want the complete house ICF. Lite-deck for second floor, and roof. Then complete outer shell G-Rib metal. It will essentially look like a metal barndominium… Nudura blocks have appeared superior.
The ultimate structure and your idea would look fantastic! 🤌
@@Navy1977 G rib, is the metal siding used on Midwest farm machinery sheds
I'm in the process of ordering Prebuck and have noticed some not using the metal angle on the Prebuck. How would you secure the buck if not using the angle and what do you prefer? I will be using Nudura XR35 6" core.
We screw 1x4 to the buck to sandwich it to the block.
@@uptokode thanks!
Will these work with a 6 inch core Fox Block?
Yes! Works with any ICF block. You will just have to reach out to them directly
Why do you not like the foam bucks?
It's because the attachment points are very limited. It is much easier to attach to wood bucks. It helps with installing things like window sills, drywall returns, exterior trim, ...etc.
Ah, that’s better.
Is it true you need pressure treated lumber for window bucks?
Some local codes may require it. I certainly use treated for a bottom plate on a concrete floor. As for a treated buck… I don’t think it’s necessary. Your wall should not have moisture in it.
I cut apart an old fir window buck from a 50’s house and it looked perfectly new. Real nice lumber. In direct contact with the concrete
@@uptokode that’s kind of what I thought I used treated for my bottom plate when I did the room separations other then that the windows and door bucks are are standard lumber thanks for the reply.
@probmxjona Good call! You’re welcome.
Maybe it's better with PVC...