I have updated my x58 / i7 970 with 12go or dry RAM and one gtx1060 6g this last months. My setup was purchased in 2010! And I can play with all games in ultra setting with FHD resolution 12 years after! Best setup of the computer's history!
It’s impressive how well some of these CPU’s have stood the test of time. I always wanted a x58 setup and owned one briefly during lockdown when I had a rampage III. It was a fun system! Prices on eBay are a bit silly though unfortunately :(
Amazing review! Still running an X58 machine as my daily driver and not planning to change any time soon. (Asus P6T-SE, Xeon x5650@4.0Ghz, 48GB DDR3, Radeon RX Vega 64) I've been using this system since 2017, I found the motherboard in a recycling center with bent pins, I gave 10EUR for it, straightened out all the damaged pins, bought the cheapest 1366 Xeon I could find on ebay (20EUR for the X5650) and filled all the DIMM slots. It is running 24/7 since then, super stable, running Debian as default and Windows 10 for some casual gaming (mostly Doom Eternal and Snowrunner).
I love the period correct and modern GPU comparisons! I don't see that a lot, in fact, I don't think I've ever seen it done this way... at least not directly. Still lovin' what you got going on! I knew my dual Xeon system could still hang with a newer card, and that an FX series AMD can still pull some rabbits out of the hat - but this was a chip to be reckoned with in the 2010 era world, and still stands up!
Still running X58 platforms here, on the home front. My daughters refuse to let me upgrade their platforms because they like their PCs just as they are. They've used newer PCs and they're not impressed. That's incredible considering it's 2023. One daughter uses the i7 960K chip and the other daughter is using an i7 920. These chips are built like tanks. They're hard to kill and if you're nice to them they'll last a lifetime.
*Except for video editing, my x58 has been great for gaming.* I started on an i7 920, then upgraded to a xeon w3680 & overclocked to 4.4ghz (massive improvement for modern games and multitasking). I was sad to _downgrade_ from win7 to win10. Besides the quick boot time, once loaded, win10 was noticeably a slow laggy OS vs win7 and also killed use of my X-fi creative sound card (a big loss if you have a library of older games you want to play). *_Do_** upgrade GPU's.* A 3060 pairs nicely with an overclocked x58, minimal bottleneck in most games for 1080p gaming (higher than 1080p becomes more _GPU_ restricted). For the rest: If you've already got an x58, maybe don't upgrade unless you really have to for a specific game worth the experience with your friends. But I'd also recommend not spending more than $100 modernizing an x58 either. It's gotten to the point where it would be better to either save up for a new system build or put that money into a used but newer system that isn't lacking AVX. It's just now crossing the point where *games are starting to expect avx* (eg Starfield is currently not playable without it). It's a pity, since the x58 platform is plenty capable. AVX1 requirement has been patched away many times (officially or unofficially patched). I played through SW Squadrons with unofficially patched win7 compatibility. But I think we are at a point where most of the people who would have done the work to patch like that have slowly migrated past that need. *Such patches are going to become more rare.* *To build a new system that would **_noticeably_** beat my old system, I would have had to spend around $420 to $1,000+ or it's not worth the bother.* Knowing myself, I'd be inclined for the upsell nicer option each time, so it probably wouldn't be the
Given how much step-up 1st gen. was from Core 2 Quads it should be somehow expected, however, I didn't think results would be that "good" as for almost 15yo platform. As always very nice and consistant video. Keep a good work!
Loved this platform, built two systems using the 920 and Asus P6 boards. Both easily overlooked to 4.2ghz on air cooling. Actually still have one that's running fine along with an X99 5820k setup.
GTA V really amazes me with it's optimization. It runs so well on such a variety of hardware. Also, the 1080Ti has to be the best GPU of the last decade. I'm still using one and have yet to run a game where I couldn't crank it up. I've never had a GPU provide top-shelf performance for so many years like this. It's amazing.
As long as AVX instructions is not needed, this old X58 platform still has some to give. The memory bandwidth (triple channel) and latency is actually quite good. You want (triple channel) 12 or 24 GB DDR3-1600@cl7 memory or 1866@cl9. It cn really make some difference over those "standard" 1600cl11. (you want cl9 or lower for X58). Xeons 6C/12T are also worth upgrading to. The IPC on X58 is not as bad as many think. Remember that IPC should be compared in similar clockspeed. Today a X58(LGA1366) platform coupled with some good low cl memory, can outperform a similar clocked Sandy/Ivy Bridge (LGA1155) due to the memory bandwidth advantage. Many modern games utilize high bandwidth on RAM, way more than 10 years ago. The most negative about the X58, is efficiency (power consumption). It that field it is outdated. (and Sandy/Ivy is way more power efficient) The Wall power is normally 100W+ @idle, and about 250W @stock if using the i7-960 @100% load. Even the 1st gen 6C/12T Ryzen 5 1600, only use around half the power, while easily outperforming the best 6C/12T LGA1366 CPUs @stock speed.
Hello mate! Thanks for sharing, interesting reading this is! The power consumption and rarity are two of the factors that would push me towards Sandy Bridge :)
I built a retro rig running an 980x and a Titan X. Computer boots flawlessly between HDD XP and SSD Windows 10. Diablo 4 is smooth as butter. Running this rig through a Sony GDM-F520 CRT.
It’s a sick build. Repainted a NZXT Phantom 410 case in SNES grey and purple. Noctua fans out the wazzoo and 12 gigs of Dominator GT DDR3. Really odd how the retro-rig seems to have better frame pacing that my main rig with a 3080ti.
AMD R and RX cards, as well as Nvidia RTX cards often have issues posting on pre Sandybridge boards due to Legacy Bios issues. Often you will get a blank screen or an intermittent post screen. Sometimes if you're lucky there is a BIOS update for this from the motherboards manufacture. This is sort of the reverse of how UEFI has a CSM setting to allow older legacy BIOS video boards to post. I hope that this helps someone.
You've just gained a new sub, love your content! I finally found a cheap X58 Formula III Gene to pair with my sealed i7 970 that was given to me probably 7 years ago. I was thinking about pairing it with a period correct GTX 580 but at the same time my watercooled R9 390 off of my current R5 3600x setup would probably be a amazing partner, decisions decisions lol.
I used to dabble on the cheaper 1156 socket a lot and I've got to say, I don't miss that socket at all haha. My main issues with that socket had to do with RAM compatibility.
I find the Asus P6X58D-E motherboards work well most people who owned these never overclocked them and you can find them cheap on Ebay, but I like the old XENON 6 core processors like the X5675 you can get them dirt cheap and overclock to 4.5 GHZ, DDR3 1866 I use PCIE to M.2 NVME Samsung 950 Pro 256 GB SSD boot drive and Samsung 970 EVO 2 TB for storage drive along with pcie to M.2 Bluetooth WI/FI 5G network adapter from an old or broken laptop and the GTX 1080 8 GB or RTX 2070 super RTX 3060 are a good pairing or any lower tear cards
Thanks for checking out the vid and sharing your experience. I agree, those old ASUS boards were solid and relatively inexpensive, looks like you got it dialled in just right? Are you looking to upgrade soon? I've yet to try XEON in "consumer" board, that being said, I just purchased matched pair of 5670's for another project, can not wait! hah!
@@nexus_tech no I'm happy with this setup for now Working great for what I do took some time to get it dialed in but enjoyed doing it I have another one in the works rampage 3 Gene xenon X5690 just waiting on the right deal for the right case two failed attempts at the deep cool matrix mesh that never ended up getting delivered
Surprisingly nice for a quad core in that generation there were 6 cores on the market and it makes me wonder if they'd still perform, a while back after it was already dated and cheap I used a xeon X5650 which was also LGA 1366 and an X5677, and I think your best in socket chip for X58 would be the Xeon X5690 which at least on US ebay I see for $30. Seeing the triple channel memory is such a throwback. I used 1366 pretty extensively back in 2015 ish I think it was when it was already good and cheap, but I leaned towards the outdated xeons for the cost savings, I think you could still OC them but I didn't have a board with the support.
Thanks for sharing and watching this video, you raised good points! I'm yet to try a Xeon - that being said, only recently ordered a matched pair for a future project - looking forward to it hah! What are you using currently ?
@@nexus_tech currently an i9 10850k, but I've made some PCs for friends that are more or less what I could find, lots of 4th gen i7s and rx480/580s from the pre COVID pricing. One person did end up with an E5-1650v3, I think haswell still might have some decent life in it.
I have an x5675 Oc-ed to an easy 4.0. Could go a lot higher but don't need to. Even my rx 470 is fine. Don't even need to overclock the CPU. I'm fine with the performance and still play modern games.
@@nexus_tech i own an i7 870 with gigabyte p55a ud5 and the only bad thing is the annoying gigabyte bios and this board is extremely picky with ram sticks, but when it finally decides to work is more than ok :)
My settings for 2023. I overclock my 960 to 4.0ghz with an air cooler. Sitting at low 50°C, High load test 80°C. I will share my settings here for anyone having issues or still messing around in 2023. I7 960 3.2ghz overclock to 4.0ghz. Bequiet 4 Air Cooler. Bios settings: .CPU Clock Ratio (20x) .QPI Clock Ratio (x36) .Uncore Clock Ratio (x16) .BLCK Frequency (Mhz) (200) .System Mem Multiplayer (8.0) 1600 ram. .CPU Core Voltage: from (1.10625v) to (1.35000v) .QPi Voltage: from (1.175v) to (1.335v) .DRAM Voltage from (1.500v) to (1.600v) Stress test programs were used. .Geekbench 6 (stable) 40 min test .AIDA64 (stable) 40 min test .CINEBENCH (stable) 40 min test NOTE: If you want to hit 4.5 GHz up to 5.0 GHz, you will need a water cooler.
I'm still rockin' an ASUS P6T Deluxe v2 X58 motherboard with a Xeon X5670 CPU (originally had an i7-920) and an ASUS CUDAII GTX 780 ti! I also have a Sapphire Nitro+ RX 580 8GB which does run well in it but I want to use it in another retro machine with a Xeon e3 1245 in it. Great system STILL in 2023, for me anyway! 👍👍
Hi there, i have 3 of those systems..., the motherboard on every machine are MSI X 58 Pro-E`s, the CPUs are Xeon X 5660.., one have a GTX 1070 card in it, but the CPU is overclocked to 4 ghz and 28gig ram, and the other two`s are moderat overclocked to 3.5ghz with a gtx 1060`- 18gig ram and the last one with mx old gtx 570...and 16gig ram, all three are wonderful gaming machines. These motherboards- the MSI X 58 - Pro E had very low prices on ebay, they come with a I7 930 ore 920 and most 12 gigs of ram..., i have buyed one for 50 Euros here in germany. A Xeon X 5660 cost round about 20 Euros here. Nice greetings..
I bought used Rampage III Extreme with i7 965 Extreme witch turned out to be i7 960..... I havent played with it much because im missing a decent psu and gpu but when i tested years ago i could not set 3 channel memory speed and had problem with ram capacity ex:install 6x4gb ram only 16gb show. I love to put this combo back in life but i cant afford it.....
DANG! When was this ? Platform supports triple channel memory, did you some A/B testing to ensure all RAM modules were working ? Well, slowly does it, with time components get cheaper, you might be able to pick it up ?
@@nexus_tech Bought it back in 2019.All memory modules are working but even i if i put 3x2gb same ram sticks (corsair kit),in bios only 4gb shows.I hope this year i will buy used rx 580 or 1070 and psu to complete it.
@@nexus_tech I have Sapphire RX570 nitro + in my main pc,i want to upgrade soon if i find used 1080 or 2060.I think to put my rx570 in this x58 system but will it work since its old mobo?
Ivy Bridge (3rd gen) and Haswell (4th) go for similar prices on the used market, and are massively superior to the 1st gen parts. 1st gen also lacks many of the modern instruction sets that became standard with 2nd gen. 1st gen only makes sense if it's obtained for free.
The games list was pretty good and I believe you should keep it the same in order to perhaps build a sort of an archive of the results. A few months ago I bought a DFI x58 motherboard with an i7 920 8gb of RAM and a decent cooler for 35€. I didn't have much time so I just effortlessly clocked it to the levels of the 960 of so. It's quite hot during the summer in Greece so keeping the CPU temperatures low was my priority and it stays under 67° C during the prime 95 test so it's fine. When I'll find some more time I will try to reach 4Ghz . A nice idea would be to try and update the bios of the motherboard (if it's not already updated) in order to support 6core x58 Xeons which are quite cheap.
I built my X58 rig 11 years ago now, and am in the process of refreshing it with CPU #4 and GPU #5. I genuinely don’t know how my MOBO is still alive, it’s been at 4.2GHz+ basically since the day I built it. To say I’ve been mean to this rig is a gross understatement The day this rig dies will be a very sad day
7:12 I don't play PUBG, but WTF was that ? :) The video itself was great. Too bad you are not growing your channel. Maybe try to do some more "shorts" and the algorithm will pick you up ?
Thanks for the review! I have the same motherboard and the same i7-960 processor, the same CPU cooler, 14 gigabytes of memory and a GTX-470 graphics card. I wanted to buy an RTX-3060 video card. Do you think there may be problems?
Hello mate! Thanks for watching the video! Yup, certain revisions of this motherboard simply won't work with anything newer than 1000 series, so a 3060 will most likely won't work and be bottlenecked significantly too. A 980 Ti on the other hand...haha!
The question it’s what games you play and what resolution. After we answer that question then we can give an exact answer. If you want a generalized answer like:- Are modern titles playable in a system with this CPU? I would say yes. Do you have to play with this CPU? I would say no unless you have no other option or someone just gifted you such a system.
Would've been nice to actually game with a 1080 Ti back when it was released. I was still running dual 1GB SC Evga 9800 Gt's in sli and then a 1060 until 2021.
My i7 920@3.8Ghz with 12GB RAM@1444Mhz is still plenty playable and even shows scaling going from my 1080Ti to 2080Ti to 3080Ti to 7900XT GPUs; sure it's about 55-30% slower vs my i9 10920X and i7 10700K@3440x1440, but the average FPS is plenty playable and some games like Cyberpunk 2077 and Red Dead Redemption 2; performed within a margin of error territory. I need to compare my i7 980X@4.5Ghz with 24GB RAM in the near future as well.
I have Asus sabertooth with 2 gtx1080 on it and x5650, 2 rtx3070 in Acer predator ( x58 7750 name of Mobo in it I think) and EVGA classified x58 ( L5640 oced 3.6ghz ) with 1 rtx3070. Only with EVGA Mobo I have problems with GPUs it won't see them on all PCI-E slots in Sli mode. What's funny I'm using now Sabertooth system on Oculus Rift it works better than on my 7700k system.
Hi Stan, I don't own any DDR3 Memory that runs that quick so I can't test. That being said, the platform "officially" runs 1066 and "up to" 1600 MHz which is already ample fast. Might be possible ?
@@nexus_tech in my x58 adventures ive never been able to get 24gb to go much over 1600mhz as with 3x4gb u can get up to 2400mhz. For the games ive played 3x4gb at 2400mhz is way better than 24gb at 1600mhz.
@@daytimerocker3808 Well, i have managed to overclock my 1866 RAM (24GB) up to 2147Mhz. Also multiple sources with benchmarks show that having more RAM in six slots with lower speeds, still have a better score in comparison with less ram in 3 slots with higher Mhz. But i guess that's also related with having a good combo with ram/motherboard setup. I now have a "Asus P6T"motherboard with 48GB of ram, while the official maximum supported ram should be 24GB.
@@opoxious1592 For just gaming 12gb at higher clocks and better timings mops the floor with 24gb and lower speeds. Depends on what u want. Id love to see a video of the PC utilizing over 24gb I wonder if its just showing that number. I have a similar asus x58 board Id love to know how u got those ram speeds.
@@daytimerocker3808 The only thjing i did was increasingthe BLCK and added enough voltage for the CPU so it would boot the system and to remain stabilty And the RAM speed just went along with the higher cpu speed. The funny part is, that i did not have to do anything special regarding latency or ram voltage (kept it on auto) So i did nothing in pariculair to the ram itself. So basically in a nutshell: 1. increased the BLCK (also ram speed goes up simultaniously). And increased the voltage of the CPU for stability. So all other things (including ram settings) are all on "auto" The ram i have in my system is: "Kingston Hyper-X Beast 1866". It could just be plain luck, that my ram is overclocking so easily without having to adjust anything besides cpu voltage.
personally i would avoid the first gen core i chips and the X58 platform as getting a hold of a decent motherboard that isn't a chinese clone, as those chinese motherboards can be hit or miss, lot of people should be shooting for Ivy Bridge as a lot of the 2000 chips are really cheep and motherboards are plenty plus you can always get a 3000 chip. plus the X58 chipset runs HOT unlike a lot of the Ivy Bridge chipsets, i think of the X58 platform as a collectors platform due to the prices of the motherboards . plus Ivy Bridge chipsetss support faster RAM in the end and more pcie lanes.
the LGA 1366 socket is, and pretty much always has been a bitch to buy for. it was expensive to start. It was also unreasonably expensive 5 years ago, when I was looking for older hardware for a "new" gaming rig. As well as still being too expensive (in my opinion) to justify a second-hand purchase for a "vintage" rig today. im in my mid 20s, and the i7 960 was the first CPU I had in my own rig (super fuckin lucky, I know), so this is fascinating content to me. But the whole time I had it, it certainly wasn't a practical decision. I got it for free, fixing a PC someone foolishly pawned off to me as trash, because they thought it was completely broken, and I spent more money trying to keep that X58 motherboard and CPU than I would have just getting a decent modern upgrade. The i3 9100f that was in my rig from 2 years ago was leagues better, and it cost me like 95 USD. The motherboard being about the same price. I have a special place in my heart for 1366, but looking back it was a rough socket to start on compared to my peers that got into building PC's with new hardware. Im thankfully part of an ecosystem now though, fairly new parts get passed down to me, then I pass down parts to my mom.
Hello mate! Yes, agreed, that is why Intel also did "mainstream" which was often as good and priced more reasonably. But then, there was, is and might always will be place for more extreme platforms. Single GPU users never needed the X58, but for those with 3 GTX 580's would argue haha! In UK, and if lucky, you can get your hands on relatively cheap boards, that being said, the price/power ratio makes no sense, it's dead.
Definitely better because of the core clock speed but a 2700k on a good motherboard can overclock pretty high and is probably the best i7 4 core for the money at least
I have exactly the same setup you just mentioned. But instead of 24GB of ram i have 48Gb of ram. And i fully agree, that this is the ultimate X58 setup
slap a xeon in it and good for another 5-10 years lol. I am running windows 11 (TPM bypass) on an X5650 xeon with dual w7100 firepro cards & 24GB of RAM and its been fine on X58 P6t Deluxe v2 Mobo. Havent really used my ryzen setup in a few weeks because of it. everything seems to run fine (Autocad, KiCAD, Office 2019, Photoshop 2022).. tempted to slap my RX6600 in it and see how it handles steam games under linux.
I had the 960 in my system now got the Xeon 3680. Also 24GB and GTX 1050Ti. Its not amazing but actually passable in titles I play such as MSFS2020 and World of Tanks. Plus it does all the productivity stuff, runs VM's in virtualbox, and has software installed in 2010 when it still ran the brand new Windows 7. Its had the windows 7 to 10 upgrade, but basically its the same build as it started with in 2010 and runs fine. Its got SSD's now which it didn't have when new. Nowadays its getting old, it bluescreens on startup sometimes a few times in a row, but once its up and running its fine. It is my one and only machine, is used for 8 hours a day every day since 2010. I think that is impressive for X58.
@@haegor its ridiculous to me that they made it incompatible with newer OS's (microsoft & intel) when my ryzen 3600x is also a 6-core that clocks relatively similar speeds. I am going to run this Machine until its no longer physically possible. and then Ill just throw linux mint on it and still keep it.
Este es un i7 920 a 4200 mhz y una GTX 780 a 1200 mhz, placa la Rampage III Extreme ua-cam.com/video/ZdaKiMp30PM/v-deo.html Ahora tengo un Xeon 5675 de 6 nucleos a 4400 mhz y con una 1070gtx, se puede jugar perfectamente a 1080p, el Xeon ese me costo 15€ de los Chinos.
Thus CPU was bottlenecking GTX 1080 TI most of the time if not all the time. Most realistic maximum GPU pair would be something like GTX 970 or may be GTX 980.
I have updated my x58 / i7 970 with 12go or dry RAM and one gtx1060 6g this last months. My setup was purchased in 2010! And I can play with all games in ultra setting with FHD resolution 12 years after! Best setup of the computer's history!
Thanks for sharing man! That is astonishing! I wonder if the same can be said about current hardware in 10 years time...
It’s impressive how well some of these CPU’s have stood the test of time. I always wanted a x58 setup and owned one briefly during lockdown when I had a rampage III. It was a fun system! Prices on eBay are a bit silly though unfortunately :(
Couldn't agree more! Awesome and still capable. Maybe one day I get the 6 core Extreme chip and different board. Hmm! haha!
In my opinion they still do.
I have my i7 990x (3.46Ghz stock6 cores 12 threads) overclocked to 5Ghz.
It runs great!
@@nexus_tech yes a w3690 is needed.
Amazing review! Still running an X58 machine as my daily driver and not planning to change any time soon. (Asus P6T-SE, Xeon x5650@4.0Ghz, 48GB DDR3, Radeon RX Vega 64) I've been using this system since 2017, I found the motherboard in a recycling center with bent pins, I gave 10EUR for it, straightened out all the damaged pins, bought the cheapest 1366 Xeon I could find on ebay (20EUR for the X5650) and filled all the DIMM slots. It is running 24/7 since then, super stable, running Debian as default and Windows 10 for some casual gaming (mostly Doom Eternal and Snowrunner).
Got myself the X58M from MSI with a proud 6 cores 970 running great in 2024!!
I love the period correct and modern GPU comparisons! I don't see that a lot, in fact, I don't think I've ever seen it done this way... at least not directly.
Still lovin' what you got going on! I knew my dual Xeon system could still hang with a newer card, and that an FX series AMD can still pull some rabbits out of the hat - but this was a chip to be reckoned with in the 2010 era world, and still stands up!
Thank you :) I'd like to try some FX CPU soon...:)
@@nexus_tech fx-8320 still rocks about 60+ fps with 1% lows of 40 on bunch of games with an rx 560 2gb!
Still running X58 platforms here, on the home front. My daughters refuse to let me upgrade their platforms because they like their PCs just as they are. They've used newer PCs and they're not impressed. That's incredible considering it's 2023. One daughter uses the i7 960K chip and the other daughter is using an i7 920. These chips are built like tanks. They're hard to kill and if you're nice to them they'll last a lifetime.
*Except for video editing, my x58 has been great for gaming.* I started on an i7 920, then upgraded to a xeon w3680 & overclocked to 4.4ghz (massive improvement for modern games and multitasking).
I was sad to _downgrade_ from win7 to win10. Besides the quick boot time, once loaded, win10 was noticeably a slow laggy OS vs win7 and also killed use of my X-fi creative sound card (a big loss if you have a library of older games you want to play).
*_Do_** upgrade GPU's.* A 3060 pairs nicely with an overclocked x58, minimal bottleneck in most games for 1080p gaming (higher than 1080p becomes more _GPU_ restricted). For the rest:
If you've already got an x58, maybe don't upgrade unless you really have to for a specific game worth the experience with your friends.
But I'd also recommend not spending more than $100 modernizing an x58 either. It's gotten to the point where it would be better to either save up for a new system build or put that money into a used but newer system that isn't lacking AVX.
It's just now crossing the point where *games are starting to expect avx* (eg Starfield is currently not playable without it). It's a pity, since the x58 platform is plenty capable. AVX1 requirement has been patched away many times (officially or unofficially patched). I played through SW Squadrons with unofficially patched win7 compatibility.
But I think we are at a point where most of the people who would have done the work to patch like that have slowly migrated past that need. *Such patches are going to become more rare.*
*To build a new system that would **_noticeably_** beat my old system, I would have had to spend around $420 to $1,000+ or it's not worth the bother.* Knowing myself, I'd be inclined for the upsell nicer option each time, so it probably wouldn't be the
It depends on what you play. If you try to play CS on that with on a competitive level, you wont be able to - and you werent since many years now.
Get a new one R7600 combo including mb & ram is just $300-350
Such an amazing performance for a 13 year old cpu+mobo indeed! Very impressive. And great video as allways
Thanks a lot! :)
Given how much step-up 1st gen. was from Core 2 Quads it should be somehow expected, however, I didn't think results would be that "good" as for almost 15yo platform. As always very nice and consistant video. Keep a good work!
Loved this platform, built two systems using the 920 and Asus P6 boards. Both easily overlooked to 4.2ghz on air cooling. Actually still have one that's running fine along with an X99 5820k setup.
The trees glitching over foreground objects at 12:50 was funny.
Huh! Thanks for tuning in :)
Nothing is obsolete if you have a purpose for it
That is a nice test bench.
GTA V really amazes me with it's optimization. It runs so well on such a variety of hardware. Also, the 1080Ti has to be the best GPU of the last decade. I'm still using one and have yet to run a game where I couldn't crank it up. I've never had a GPU provide top-shelf performance for so many years like this. It's amazing.
I'm still impressed with my Rampage 3 and I7 930. It still delivers today.
I have two Xeon X5670's. Want to buy 1 or 2? I have an X5680 overclocked to 4680!
I loved having 3 channels and 6 RAM slots on my 920 system. 12GB RAM was a ton in 2010.
Yep, it was.
I ran 2x2 GB for the longest time on DDR3.
Especially considering less bloated Xp pro/Windows 7 pro was compared to 11.
Still have my x58 and a i7 960 in working condition paired with a gtx 580 .. and one x79 system with a xeon 1650 all still very usable today ..
I have the I7 960 in a PC I built in Feb, 2010. Stillb running strong and still gaming away. But i think it is time for an upgrade
As long as AVX instructions is not needed, this old X58 platform still has some to give. The memory bandwidth (triple channel) and latency is actually quite good. You want (triple channel) 12 or 24 GB DDR3-1600@cl7 memory or 1866@cl9. It cn really make some difference over those "standard" 1600cl11. (you want cl9 or lower for X58). Xeons 6C/12T are also worth upgrading to. The IPC on X58 is not as bad as many think. Remember that IPC should be compared in similar clockspeed.
Today a X58(LGA1366) platform coupled with some good low cl memory, can outperform a similar clocked Sandy/Ivy Bridge (LGA1155) due to the memory bandwidth advantage. Many modern games utilize high bandwidth on RAM, way more than 10 years ago.
The most negative about the X58, is efficiency (power consumption). It that field it is outdated. (and Sandy/Ivy is way more power efficient) The Wall power is normally 100W+ @idle, and about 250W @stock if using the i7-960 @100% load. Even the 1st gen 6C/12T Ryzen 5 1600, only use around half the power, while easily outperforming the best 6C/12T LGA1366 CPUs @stock speed.
Hello mate! Thanks for sharing, interesting reading this is! The power consumption and rarity are two of the factors that would push me towards Sandy Bridge :)
I built a retro rig running an 980x and a Titan X. Computer boots flawlessly between HDD XP and SSD Windows 10. Diablo 4 is smooth as butter. Running this rig through a Sony GDM-F520 CRT.
Dude, that's sick 🙂 thanks for sharing, gotta love a proper CRT 👌
It’s a sick build. Repainted a NZXT Phantom 410 case in SNES grey and purple. Noctua fans out the wazzoo and 12 gigs of Dominator GT DDR3.
Really odd how the retro-rig seems to have better frame pacing that my main rig with a 3080ti.
AMD R and RX cards, as well as Nvidia RTX cards often have issues posting on pre Sandybridge boards due to Legacy Bios issues. Often you will get a blank screen or an intermittent post screen. Sometimes if you're lucky there is a BIOS update for this from the motherboards manufacture. This is sort of the reverse of how UEFI has a CSM setting to allow older legacy BIOS video boards to post. I hope that this helps someone.
It was my cpu in 2009. I still have it even with giga mainboard. Was using this cpu till 2016 !!!
You've just gained a new sub, love your content! I finally found a cheap X58 Formula III Gene to pair with my sealed i7 970 that was given to me probably 7 years ago. I was thinking about pairing it with a period correct GTX 580 but at the same time my watercooled R9 390 off of my current R5 3600x setup would probably be a amazing partner, decisions decisions lol.
Awesome! I'm glad you enjoy this content. How much "cheap" are we talking about ? 🙂
@@nexus_tech Found locally for 100$ CAD with a nice triple channel kit with 2 extra 4 gb sticks and a 950 socketed in it, an older gentlemen had it.
Nice find 🙂 I was not expecting as much performance with 1st gen, I'm going to test 3rd gen 4th gen etc and genuinely interested to see the "gains"
I used to dabble on the cheaper 1156 socket a lot and I've got to say, I don't miss that socket at all haha. My main issues with that socket had to do with RAM compatibility.
This board did not complain much, well, for as long I was reasonable haha!
I still have my Xeon E2690 E2 10 Core paired with 1080 Ti. Still have great FPS @1080 and Max Details
I find the Asus P6X58D-E motherboards work well most people who owned these never overclocked them and you can find them cheap on Ebay, but I like the old XENON 6 core processors like the X5675 you can get them dirt cheap and overclock to 4.5 GHZ, DDR3 1866 I use PCIE to M.2 NVME Samsung 950 Pro 256 GB SSD boot drive and Samsung 970 EVO 2 TB for storage drive along with pcie to M.2 Bluetooth WI/FI 5G network adapter from an old or broken laptop and the GTX 1080 8 GB or RTX 2070 super RTX 3060 are a good pairing or any lower tear cards
Thanks for checking out the vid and sharing your experience. I agree, those old ASUS boards were solid and relatively inexpensive, looks like you got it dialled in just right? Are you looking to upgrade soon? I've yet to try XEON in "consumer" board, that being said, I just purchased matched pair of 5670's for another project, can not wait! hah!
@@nexus_tech no I'm happy with this setup for now Working great for what I do took some time to get it dialed in but enjoyed doing it I have another one in the works rampage 3 Gene xenon X5690 just waiting on the right deal for the right case two failed attempts at the deep cool matrix mesh that never ended up getting delivered
Surprisingly nice for a quad core in that generation there were 6 cores on the market and it makes me wonder if they'd still perform, a while back after it was already dated and cheap I used a xeon X5650 which was also LGA 1366 and an X5677, and I think your best in socket chip for X58 would be the Xeon X5690 which at least on US ebay I see for $30. Seeing the triple channel memory is such a throwback. I used 1366 pretty extensively back in 2015 ish I think it was when it was already good and cheap, but I leaned towards the outdated xeons for the cost savings, I think you could still OC them but I didn't have a board with the support.
Thanks for sharing and watching this video, you raised good points! I'm yet to try a Xeon - that being said, only recently ordered a matched pair for a future project - looking forward to it hah! What are you using currently ?
@@nexus_tech currently an i9 10850k, but I've made some PCs for friends that are more or less what I could find, lots of 4th gen i7s and rx480/580s from the pre COVID pricing. One person did end up with an E5-1650v3, I think haswell still might have some decent life in it.
I have an x5675 Oc-ed to an easy 4.0. Could go a lot higher but don't need to. Even my rx 470 is fine. Don't even need to overclock the CPU. I'm fine with the performance and still play modern games.
Nice video and quality content! you earned my sub! Do a review of an i7 870. i am very curious to see the difference of an 1366 system vs 1156.
I'm getting a P55 board soon. Of course I will test 🙂
@@nexus_tech i own an i7 870 with gigabyte p55a ud5 and the only bad thing is the annoying gigabyte bios and this board is extremely picky with ram sticks, but when it finally decides to work is more than ok :)
@nicklem9846 oh noooo 🤣! I've got the UD3R mode with an i5 750 but getting the i7 870 as well 🙂
@@nexus_tech Damn another Gigabyte ...well sucks to be us xD
My settings for 2023.
I overclock my 960 to 4.0ghz with an air cooler.
Sitting at low 50°C,
High load test 80°C.
I will share my settings here for anyone having issues or still messing around in 2023.
I7 960 3.2ghz overclock to 4.0ghz. Bequiet 4 Air Cooler.
Bios settings:
.CPU Clock Ratio (20x)
.QPI Clock Ratio (x36)
.Uncore Clock Ratio (x16)
.BLCK Frequency (Mhz) (200)
.System Mem Multiplayer (8.0)
1600 ram.
.CPU Core Voltage:
from (1.10625v) to (1.35000v)
.QPi Voltage:
from (1.175v) to (1.335v)
.DRAM Voltage
from (1.500v) to (1.600v)
Stress test programs were used.
.Geekbench 6 (stable) 40 min test
.AIDA64 (stable) 40 min test
.CINEBENCH (stable) 40 min test
NOTE: If you want to hit 4.5 GHz up to 5.0 GHz, you will need a water cooler.
Just got a nitro+ 5700 xt today and it fine with my 990x on a ud5 board. F13 version bions.
I'm still rockin' an ASUS P6T Deluxe v2 X58 motherboard with a Xeon X5670 CPU (originally had an i7-920) and an ASUS CUDAII GTX 780 ti! I also have a Sapphire Nitro+ RX 580 8GB which does run well in it but I want to use it in another retro machine with a Xeon e3 1245 in it. Great system STILL in 2023, for me anyway! 👍👍
Such a fantastic platform to build around considering CEX gives nearly to nothing those CPUs.
I really need to try CEX some time soon! I keep watching RGHD vids and often the stuff is half decent!
@@nexus_tech first I was only ebay with SH and new a few websites, but now I look first on cex for both new and sh first.
Its really good after overclock..its like tuning a car with turbo on it
The 920 made the other models not worth buying after overclocks.
X58 with a Xeon is a beast.
I still use the same platform. Rampage 3 extreme x58 and a 990x cpu with 24gb ram. It runs very well :) windows 10 x64
Man! That's dream setup :) Thanks for checking out the content, what clock speed are you running on CPU ?
Hi there, i have 3 of those systems..., the motherboard on every machine are MSI X 58 Pro-E`s, the CPUs are Xeon X 5660.., one have a GTX 1070 card in it, but the CPU is overclocked to 4 ghz and 28gig ram, and the other two`s are moderat overclocked to 3.5ghz with a gtx 1060`- 18gig ram and the last one with mx old gtx 570...and 16gig ram, all three are wonderful gaming machines. These motherboards- the MSI X 58 - Pro E had very low prices on ebay, they come with a I7 930 ore 920 and most 12 gigs of ram..., i have buyed one for 50 Euros here in germany. A Xeon X 5660 cost round about 20 Euros here. Nice greetings..
I am researching the eVGA X58 SLI3 for settings and such.
Oh, that would be nice to own 🫡
I bought used Rampage III Extreme with i7 965 Extreme witch turned out to be i7 960.....
I havent played with it much because im missing a decent psu and gpu but when i tested years ago i could not set 3 channel memory speed and had problem with ram capacity ex:install 6x4gb ram only 16gb show.
I love to put this combo back in life but i cant afford it.....
DANG! When was this ? Platform supports triple channel memory, did you some A/B testing to ensure all RAM modules were working ? Well, slowly does it, with time components get cheaper, you might be able to pick it up ?
@@nexus_tech Bought it back in 2019.All memory modules are working but even i if i put 3x2gb same ram sticks (corsair kit),in bios only 4gb shows.I hope this year i will buy used rx 580 or 1070 and psu to complete it.
@@nexus_tech I have Sapphire RX570 nitro + in my main pc,i want to upgrade soon if i find used 1080 or 2060.I think to put my rx570 in this x58 system but will it work since its old mobo?
This if find at a reasonable price could do a pretty nice entry gaming machine and the 1080ti is still a very solid option
Agreed! It did not feel sluggish, my only complaint was the power consumption hah! :)
Ivy Bridge (3rd gen) and Haswell (4th) go for similar prices on the used market, and are massively superior to the 1st gen parts. 1st gen also lacks many of the modern instruction sets that became standard with 2nd gen. 1st gen only makes sense if it's obtained for free.
I have one of these in my gaming build with a p6xd ASUs board or something
I am running a Xeon W3680 which is the 6 core 12 Thread @ 3.33 unlocked processor. Its running proxmox with some vms on its 24GB RAM
The games list was pretty good and I believe you should keep it the same in order to perhaps build a sort of an archive of the results.
A few months ago I bought a DFI x58 motherboard with an i7 920 8gb of RAM and a decent cooler for 35€.
I didn't have much time so I just effortlessly clocked it to the levels of the 960 of so. It's quite hot during the summer in Greece so keeping the CPU temperatures low was my priority and it stays under 67° C during the prime 95 test so it's fine.
When I'll find some more time I will try to reach 4Ghz .
A nice idea would be to try and update the bios of the motherboard (if it's not already updated) in order to support 6core x58 Xeons which are quite cheap.
I built my X58 rig 11 years ago now, and am in the process of refreshing it with CPU #4 and GPU #5. I genuinely don’t know how my MOBO is still alive, it’s been at 4.2GHz+ basically since the day I built it. To say I’ve been mean to this rig is a gross understatement
The day this rig dies will be a very sad day
Thanks for sharing! Awesome! Next stop ? 🙂
6c 12t at 4GHz is more than enough for 1080p.
I still have a 6-core Xeon on my HTPC paired with a R9 290X. Still packs a punch.
Wowers! That must be still decent even for today!! What games do you tend to play ? Also, what CPU-Z score do you get ?
heyyoo yet another great video! but I'm curious as can you still use single core in 2022? that would be great for legacy cpu video right? much love!
I have rampage ii and use it dayly with i7 950 and it is lga1366
7:12 I don't play PUBG, but WTF was that ? :) The video itself was great. Too bad you are not growing your channel. Maybe try to do some more "shorts" and the algorithm will pick you up ?
Im still using my i7-950 with tri-channel and 6gigs ram, gtx1060 graphics i got now that replaced a faulty gtx570!
Thanks for the review! I have the same motherboard and the same i7-960 processor, the same CPU cooler, 14 gigabytes of memory and a GTX-470 graphics card. I wanted to buy an RTX-3060 video card. Do you think there may be problems?
Hello mate! Thanks for watching the video! Yup, certain revisions of this motherboard simply won't work with anything newer than 1000 series, so a 3060 will most likely won't work and be bottlenecked significantly too. A 980 Ti on the other hand...haha!
@@nexus_tech Hello! I thought it would be :) Thanks anyway!
First 🔥🤝
The question it’s what games you play and what resolution. After we answer that question then we can give an exact answer. If you want a generalized answer like:- Are modern titles playable in a system with this CPU? I would say yes. Do you have to play with this CPU? I would say no unless you have no other option or someone just gifted you such a system.
Would've been nice to actually game with a 1080 Ti back when it was released.
I was still running dual 1GB SC Evga 9800 Gt's in sli and then a 1060 until 2021.
My i7 920@3.8Ghz with 12GB RAM@1444Mhz is still plenty playable and even shows scaling going from my 1080Ti to 2080Ti to 3080Ti to 7900XT GPUs; sure it's about 55-30% slower vs my i9 10920X and i7 10700K@3440x1440, but the average FPS is plenty playable and some games like Cyberpunk 2077 and Red Dead Redemption 2; performed within a margin of error territory.
I need to compare my i7 980X@4.5Ghz with 24GB RAM in the near future as well.
I have Asus sabertooth with 2 gtx1080 on it and x5650, 2 rtx3070 in Acer predator ( x58 7750 name of Mobo in it I think) and EVGA classified x58 ( L5640 oced 3.6ghz ) with 1 rtx3070. Only with EVGA Mobo I have problems with GPUs it won't see them on all PCI-E slots in Sli mode. What's funny I'm using now Sabertooth system on Oculus Rift it works better than on my 7700k system.
Uncore also needs to be overclocked.
If possible, would you have used 24GB of ram at 2133mhz of more?
Hi Stan, I don't own any DDR3 Memory that runs that quick so I can't test. That being said, the platform "officially" runs 1066 and "up to" 1600 MHz which is already ample fast. Might be possible ?
@@nexus_tech in my x58 adventures ive never been able to get 24gb to go much over 1600mhz as with 3x4gb u can get up to 2400mhz. For the games ive played 3x4gb at 2400mhz is way better than 24gb at 1600mhz.
@@daytimerocker3808 Well, i have managed to overclock my 1866 RAM (24GB) up to 2147Mhz.
Also multiple sources with benchmarks show that having more RAM in six slots with lower speeds, still have a better score in comparison with less ram in 3 slots with higher Mhz.
But i guess that's also related with having a good combo with ram/motherboard setup.
I now have a "Asus P6T"motherboard with 48GB of ram, while the official maximum supported ram should be 24GB.
@@opoxious1592 For just gaming 12gb at higher clocks and better timings mops the floor with 24gb and lower speeds. Depends on what u want. Id love to see a video of the PC utilizing over 24gb I wonder if its just showing that number. I have a similar asus x58 board Id love to know how u got those ram speeds.
@@daytimerocker3808 The only thjing i did was increasingthe BLCK and added enough voltage for the CPU so it would boot the system and to remain stabilty
And the RAM speed just went along with the higher cpu speed.
The funny part is, that i did not have to do anything special regarding latency or ram voltage (kept it on auto)
So i did nothing in pariculair to the ram itself.
So basically in a nutshell:
1. increased the BLCK (also ram speed goes up simultaniously).
And increased the voltage of the CPU for stability.
So all other things (including ram settings) are all on "auto"
The ram i have in my system is: "Kingston Hyper-X Beast 1866".
It could just be plain luck, that my ram is overclocking so easily without having to adjust anything besides cpu voltage.
personally i would avoid the first gen core i chips and the X58 platform as getting a hold of a decent motherboard that isn't a chinese clone, as those chinese motherboards can be hit or miss,
lot of people should be shooting for Ivy Bridge as a lot of the 2000 chips are really cheep and motherboards are plenty plus you can always get a 3000 chip.
plus the X58 chipset runs HOT unlike a lot of the Ivy Bridge chipsets, i think of the X58 platform as a collectors platform due to the prices of the motherboards .
plus Ivy Bridge chipsetss support faster RAM in the end and more pcie lanes.
the LGA 1366 socket is, and pretty much always has been a bitch to buy for. it was expensive to start. It was also unreasonably expensive 5 years ago, when I was looking for older hardware for a "new" gaming rig. As well as still being too expensive (in my opinion) to justify a second-hand purchase for a "vintage" rig today. im in my mid 20s, and the i7 960 was the first CPU I had in my own rig (super fuckin lucky, I know), so this is fascinating content to me. But the whole time I had it, it certainly wasn't a practical decision. I got it for free, fixing a PC someone foolishly pawned off to me as trash, because they thought it was completely broken, and I spent more money trying to keep that X58 motherboard and CPU than I would have just getting a decent modern upgrade. The i3 9100f that was in my rig from 2 years ago was leagues better, and it cost me like 95 USD. The motherboard being about the same price. I have a special place in my heart for 1366, but looking back it was a rough socket to start on compared to my peers that got into building PC's with new hardware. Im thankfully part of an ecosystem now though, fairly new parts get passed down to me, then I pass down parts to my mom.
Hello mate! Yes, agreed, that is why Intel also did "mainstream" which was often as good and priced more reasonably. But then, there was, is and might always will be place for more extreme platforms. Single GPU users never needed the X58, but for those with 3 GTX 580's would argue haha! In UK, and if lucky, you can get your hands on relatively cheap boards, that being said, the price/power ratio makes no sense, it's dead.
I wonder how this OC'd 960 stacks up against the vanilla i7-2600?
Definitely better because of the core clock speed but a 2700k on a good motherboard can overclock pretty high and is probably the best i7 4 core for the money at least
5ghz W3690 and 24gb ddr3 2400mhz would be the ultimate x58 setup unless u had the EVGA dual cpu board...
I'm lurking at 980X, defo worth revisiting 🙂
I have exactly the same setup you just mentioned.
But instead of 24GB of ram i have 48Gb of ram.
And i fully agree, that this is the ultimate X58 setup
Could have done better with the quad channel ram filled
Oh, well.
It's usually I7 out,Xeon (and better,the unlocked one) in.
8)))
Still, those X58 are too expensive...
Better at gaming than first gen Ryzen with the OC. How.
Not sure, I've not tested 1st gen yet :)
You should have included 1440p and 4K resolutions.
Yup, that was considered, however I could not get OG amd card, think it tops at 1440p, anything newer will have 4K hahah!
@@nexus_tech what does OG mean?
Stick an i7-980 in there for 6core 12thread
Core i7 990x 3.47ghz 6/12
Xeon 5680 OC to 4.2 with ease X58!!!!
I'm running that cpu at 4.65
A 1st gen i7.
slap a xeon in it and good for another 5-10 years lol. I am running windows 11 (TPM bypass) on an X5650 xeon with dual w7100 firepro cards & 24GB of RAM and its been fine on X58 P6t Deluxe v2 Mobo. Havent really used my ryzen setup in a few weeks because of it. everything seems to run fine (Autocad, KiCAD, Office 2019, Photoshop 2022).. tempted to slap my RX6600 in it and see how it handles steam games under linux.
I had the 960 in my system now got the Xeon 3680. Also 24GB and GTX 1050Ti. Its not amazing but actually passable in titles I play such as MSFS2020 and World of Tanks. Plus it does all the productivity stuff, runs VM's in virtualbox, and has software installed in 2010 when it still ran the brand new Windows 7. Its had the windows 7 to 10 upgrade, but basically its the same build as it started with in 2010 and runs fine. Its got SSD's now which it didn't have when new. Nowadays its getting old, it bluescreens on startup sometimes a few times in a row, but once its up and running its fine. It is my one and only machine, is used for 8 hours a day every day since 2010. I think that is impressive for X58.
@@haegor its ridiculous to me that they made it incompatible with newer OS's (microsoft & intel) when my ryzen 3600x is also a 6-core that clocks relatively similar speeds. I am going to run this Machine until its no longer physically possible. and then Ill just throw linux mint on it and still keep it.
Lol I still rocking my old i7 2700k 2nd gen i7
I don't understand doing CPU throwback by pushing GPU to limit and not the CPU. This way even Phenom CPUs are relevant nowadays
X58 never dies! Try a Xeon w3680 or w3690 with a 4gherz overclock! Or try the Xeon x5690 or x5680.
I never actually owned Xeon, well, not until recently hahah!
@@nexus_tech I use a x5690 at 4.2ghz with a 1080 ti and it plays anything I throw at it. Maybe the most over-engineered platform intel has ever made.
i think x58 might be the first platform ever that will still be usable after 20 years, at least for light tasks. only 6 more years until 2028
@@talvisota327 agreed!
@@talvisota327 The problem is the architecture is already being left behind no OS after windows 10 will support. Pretty sad.
Este es un i7 920 a 4200 mhz y una GTX 780 a 1200 mhz, placa la Rampage III Extreme ua-cam.com/video/ZdaKiMp30PM/v-deo.html
Ahora tengo un Xeon 5675 de 6 nucleos a 4400 mhz y con una 1070gtx, se puede jugar perfectamente a 1080p, el Xeon ese me costo 15€ de los Chinos.
Congrats for the Fortnite win :)
Thus CPU was bottlenecking GTX 1080 TI most of the time if not all the time. Most realistic maximum GPU pair would be something like GTX 970 or may be GTX 980.