Always remember, suction is not the cleaning part, it's the airflow. The simple way to show this is invert your suction gauge, put some seeds or a tissue on top of the rubber stopper, seal your hose to it, turn the machine on, measure the suction, while keeping the hose on the gauge, turn the machine off, wait for it to coast down to a stop and when you remove the hose from the gauge the tissue or seeds would still be there. Why? Because you need to move the air to move the debris. Suction helps with the induction of air flow but isn't necessary when you look at say a Kirby with its 40" of suction. The Rainbow E2 only does about as well as the Henry suction wise and the airflow is probably lower as well. I am amazed though with the performance of the Rainbow as it can find dirt in an otherwise clean looking carpet. Sometimes quite a bit more after vacuuming with other dry filter type bagged and bagless machines thoroughly. That being said, I have other machines besides my Rainbows including a bagged central vacuum, my wet and dry vacuum, my Kirbys and I also occasionally use my Mom's Shark Rocket. The same maintenance procedure applies to bagless machines like it does the Rainbow. Empty it after each use and clean the filters when they need it. I use the central vac with a short length of hose to clean it as it makes it a bit easier to do. I typically vacuum the top of the sponge filter off after every other use as well as the canister piece. I know a lot of people think that bagless machines are messy but they way you are supposed to do it reduces the plume of dust. VacLab has a great instructional video on both bagged and bagless machines on how to care for them. Water filter machines that utilize the baffle system are more of a pain to use than most Newcombe Separator-based designs like Rainbow, Prolux CTX/Ocean Blue, Delphin, Hyla, Sirena, ProAqua, etc. but even some separator designs are somewhat tedious and messy to deal with including Hyla as well as Sirena and ProAqua don't have a dome-shaped basin like early Delphins, CTX and Rainbow.
It really depends on the water bath debris capture system. These baffle based units, Hyla, ProAqua and Sirena are a bit messy to deal with when they don't use a dome-shaped water pan. Newcombe Separator designs like Rainbow, Prolux CTX/Ocean Blue, some versions of Delphin (not sure if the newest one with the weeble-wobble design still uses a dome shaped water pan) are a little easier to clean. Also, there isn't much to maintaining them when you get the hang of it. Take the basin outside, dump it, rinse it, check and clean the separator if necessary and reinstall it, put the machine away. It isn't for everyone but the results are pretty nice, no stink after using a dry only vacuum and consumables are significantly cheaper in the long run as HEPA filters on the Rainbow are quite a bit larger than that found in a Miele or Sebo, cost as much to purchase but last significantly longer than those on Miele and Sebo partly due to the dust that does make it through the Sebo or Miele motor and also don't get choked off by carbon dust as the Rainbow uses a micro-controller-operated bypass motor. One other plus is the Rainbow can also do wet cleaning. Rainbow vacuums are also built to last, as there are people still using previous versions of the machine to this day that can easily date back into the 1970s or earlier. I understand why some don't like them as there is a bit of setup and maintenance but for some of us, it's worth it.
Age-wise, this machine was produced in 2001-2002, originally sold more towards the international regions including Turkey, Israel, Poland, and Russia. Not a great seller - the machine would smell if water wasn’t exchanged. Manufactured in the same factory as the canisters - hence the common tools, and 4-lug hose connector. Hope this info is helpful
Did you use the Shark Cordless Vacuum cleaner some time for daily use? I remembered your demonstration and there it was one of the best cordless cleaners. People say, the battery will go down after about 2 years or parts will fails
Water filter vacuums are intriguing but the problem is their unique selling point (no bags that gradually clog, degrading suction) has been eroded by bagless cleaners which can also make the same claim…
As I have said in previous posts, it depends on the type of design they utilize. I prefer the Newcombe Separator design either the Rainbow or a direct clone are the ones I would prefer to use. These machines have the plus of being a wet cleaner as well meaning if you want to mop your floor pulling up the dirty water afterwards, you can. Shampoo your carpet? No problem. Shampoo your furniture, stairs and car upholstery? Why not? The positive is it can be an all in one machine and does a relatively good job at it. No need to store other dedicated machines. I mean, yes, you are storing other attachments but not as much space required than storing say a Sebo D4 and a Bissell Big Green. Your Rainbow D4 can replace your Sebo D4 and also be your Bissell Big Green. It's not for everyone but it's something to consider.
I can't say I've ever seen this one either. It's a pile of pants in comparison with the Bissel Hydroclean ones I used for car valeting, largely because they are more than just a wet filtration vacuum. My customers were surprised with the amount of dirt that came out of their car's upholstery & carpets when I emptied the tank just from the vacuuming! However, they are just too expensive and quite a faff for regular use!!!
I know this will be a repeat to my last comment on your other water based machine video, but you haven't tried the ones based on the Newcombe Separator (Rainbow and its clones). In fact, I am pretty sure you can easily get your hands on at least one variant like a used Delphin. They are incredibly similar to one of the older Rainbow models sold throughout the 1980s and 1990s: The D3 and D4. In fact, I like the Delphin in design better than I do the other EuroVac Rainbow clones like the ProAqua or the Hyla as it is a superior looking machine. I don't care much for the battery power nozzle sold with some models but if you couldn't get a Rainbow, this is probably the logical alternative.
If this is anything like the Polti water filter cleaner I acquired brand-new many years ago, this cleaner will stink to high heaven of rotten potatoes in just a few days. I bought the cleaner for a whole £10 from a guy who ran a local vac shop at that time. He'd had two of them in a consignment of brand-new cleaners he'd purchased years earlier, and no one had ever shown an interest in the Polti. He just wanted them gone. Anyway, the Polti was an absolute nightmare to pull round, due to the weight of the water, and emptying the dirt was just horrific, because when the dirt tank contains fluff, hair, dust, plus the odd pin or staple, you can't be pouring that down the drain. But the smell afterwards was on another level altogether.
All water based vacuum cleaners need to be rinsed out and left disassembled to air dry after every use. That is why it stinks. They take a large level of care and cleaning.
Looking at the U shape of the mount for the orange incoming dirt pipe & water shields , it looks like you could leave all that gubbins out and fit a standard Vax bag (like the dry vac/shampooer models use) ? My fear with this type of vacuum has always been it falling on its side while it's running. I would expect it to have a bypass motor fitted, but water plus electricity is still a shock risk...
Wow interesting unboxing, the China UK equivalent of a Rainbow 🌈 😂 Looking at the colour and listening to the motor it could quite possibly be an EasyJet flight about to take off 😂 Had to laugh when you said the cleaner may not grow on you, I thought of people queing like a delayed flight to Benidorm 😅
I'm certain I remember seeing this for sale in some catalogue some what must be at least 15 years ago now, I think they were not on sale for very long.... I wonder why! , I wanted one until I realised it didn't wash so I went for the 6131 instead and I'm on my second one of those now, well the last one as they don't make them anymore, I have to say the only thing I don't like about that is the loud noise of the motor, Henry's are quiet and yet george is loud, seems to be a trait of wet and dry machines. Give me a bagged vacuum any day!
…. The very concept of the “dry” dirt on your carpet/hard floors and surfaces getting wet and then being flushed down the toilet = the local sewage treatment works/the water board having to deal with that additional dirt, in comparison to being sucked into a bag > being taken out of the vacuum and thrown into your wheely bin > the dustmen coming with the dust cart and emptying the bin into it > driven to the “dry waste” plant where it is incinerated/burned [even better if the incinerator also generates electricity from the waste] I much prefer the latter
Using the same principal, couldn't you use light oil for filtration? Thinking something like citronella lamp oil, advantage would be not having to empty every use and greater longevity for the motor.
What a faf, i bet most of these machines ended up never getting emptied and stinking, i would probably be half decent if it could be converted to take a bag.
I've never really cared for water filtration. It's way too messy and complicated compared to a bag or bagless system. With that said, Rexair probably has the best system with the Rainbows (for as good as it can be). Of course, you're paying an arm, a leg, and a lung, for a Rainbow, but if one must insist on water filtration, it's really the only good option.
Rainbows are expensive because they were invented before it.Curved or kobe bryant or call bor cover any vacuum of vapor with the hair crushed wit was a barefoot or water or a cheese and bacon so i'm quite a short step
hi ibasiac I've been watching your channel since i was 6 years old and I'm 12 now I've had to change to multiple account's so on all those accounts I've subscribed on
Its name is Water Jet but there’s no pump for spray extraction function? It can’t have been a three in one cleaner… there’s no exit hole for the solution tube either…
It gets no love from me sadly.water vacuums are a really silly idea.and your right Roger that is one ugly thing! But it must be rare i ageee - ive never come accross or seen one myself so from that angle its a good thing!
Oh my lord that is bad design, but very interesting. First of all is the major problem that the water and dirt is not being separated by the water and it gets to the motor filter. That just screams bad design. Then there is the noise level. I never knew how loud my cheap chinese headphones can get. All that space around the motor and no sound insulation at all. No wonder this was a flop and people didn't want it. After saying all this I still think that this was very interesting video.
Never seen this before, the tools are earlier than the machine as the vax logo is when they change font but tools are older font in capitals. What an odd looking machine. Soo grim when it’s full 🤢
You should look at the Rainbow D and D2. They are pretty funny looking machines for sure. One's gold in colour and the other is a beautiful copper or chocolate brown with a chrome dome. Shiny like Homer Simpson's head after putting it in the Shine-o-Ball-o.
Always remember, suction is not the cleaning part, it's the airflow. The simple way to show this is invert your suction gauge, put some seeds or a tissue on top of the rubber stopper, seal your hose to it, turn the machine on, measure the suction, while keeping the hose on the gauge, turn the machine off, wait for it to coast down to a stop and when you remove the hose from the gauge the tissue or seeds would still be there. Why? Because you need to move the air to move the debris. Suction helps with the induction of air flow but isn't necessary when you look at say a Kirby with its 40" of suction. The Rainbow E2 only does about as well as the Henry suction wise and the airflow is probably lower as well. I am amazed though with the performance of the Rainbow as it can find dirt in an otherwise clean looking carpet. Sometimes quite a bit more after vacuuming with other dry filter type bagged and bagless machines thoroughly.
That being said, I have other machines besides my Rainbows including a bagged central vacuum, my wet and dry vacuum, my Kirbys and I also occasionally use my Mom's Shark Rocket. The same maintenance procedure applies to bagless machines like it does the Rainbow. Empty it after each use and clean the filters when they need it. I use the central vac with a short length of hose to clean it as it makes it a bit easier to do. I typically vacuum the top of the sponge filter off after every other use as well as the canister piece. I know a lot of people think that bagless machines are messy but they way you are supposed to do it reduces the plume of dust. VacLab has a great instructional video on both bagged and bagless machines on how to care for them.
Water filter machines that utilize the baffle system are more of a pain to use than most Newcombe Separator-based designs like Rainbow, Prolux CTX/Ocean Blue, Delphin, Hyla, Sirena, ProAqua, etc. but even some separator designs are somewhat tedious and messy to deal with including Hyla as well as Sirena and ProAqua don't have a dome-shaped basin like early Delphins, CTX and Rainbow.
My shark the airflow is really great and it has good suction and it can clean my house really well
I've always dreamed of a vacuum cleaner like this and it's great to see your video in front of me hours later.
Been waiting ALL DAY for this to very video to drop!!! SUPER excited to see this one!
Never seen such a thing.
Water filtration , never for me!
Great demo R.
It really depends on the water bath debris capture system. These baffle based units, Hyla, ProAqua and Sirena are a bit messy to deal with when they don't use a dome-shaped water pan. Newcombe Separator designs like Rainbow, Prolux CTX/Ocean Blue, some versions of Delphin (not sure if the newest one with the weeble-wobble design still uses a dome shaped water pan) are a little easier to clean. Also, there isn't much to maintaining them when you get the hang of it. Take the basin outside, dump it, rinse it, check and clean the separator if necessary and reinstall it, put the machine away. It isn't for everyone but the results are pretty nice, no stink after using a dry only vacuum and consumables are significantly cheaper in the long run as HEPA filters on the Rainbow are quite a bit larger than that found in a Miele or Sebo, cost as much to purchase but last significantly longer than those on Miele and Sebo partly due to the dust that does make it through the Sebo or Miele motor and also don't get choked off by carbon dust as the Rainbow uses a micro-controller-operated bypass motor. One other plus is the Rainbow can also do wet cleaning. Rainbow vacuums are also built to last, as there are people still using previous versions of the machine to this day that can easily date back into the 1970s or earlier. I understand why some don't like them as there is a bit of setup and maintenance but for some of us, it's worth it.
Age-wise, this machine was produced in 2001-2002, originally sold more towards the international regions including Turkey, Israel, Poland, and Russia. Not a great seller - the machine would smell if water wasn’t exchanged. Manufactured in the same factory as the canisters - hence the common tools, and 4-lug hose connector. Hope this info is helpful
i love numatic vaccums im only on your channel for numatics your videos are amazing
This machine was also sold under the DeLonghi and Sunbeam brand in South Africa.
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Deesdae word daar net totalle gemors verkoop.
That turbotool looked great!!!!
I'm sure a version of this was sold through QVC a good few years ago I remember thinking it was strange but clever
I think they’re sold as “Kalorik” brand here in the US
Did you use the Shark Cordless Vacuum cleaner some time for daily use?
I remembered your demonstration and there it was one of the best cordless cleaners.
People say, the battery will go down after about 2 years or parts will fails
Water filter vacuums are intriguing but the problem is their unique selling point (no bags that gradually clog, degrading suction) has been eroded by bagless cleaners which can also make the same claim…
As I have said in previous posts, it depends on the type of design they utilize. I prefer the Newcombe Separator design either the Rainbow or a direct clone are the ones I would prefer to use. These machines have the plus of being a wet cleaner as well meaning if you want to mop your floor pulling up the dirty water afterwards, you can. Shampoo your carpet? No problem. Shampoo your furniture, stairs and car upholstery? Why not? The positive is it can be an all in one machine and does a relatively good job at it. No need to store other dedicated machines. I mean, yes, you are storing other attachments but not as much space required than storing say a Sebo D4 and a Bissell Big Green. Your Rainbow D4 can replace your Sebo D4 and also be your Bissell Big Green. It's not for everyone but it's something to consider.
It's quite large, so storing it might be a problem for some people. Also, cleaning carpeted stairs might be challenging.
I can't say I've ever seen this one either. It's a pile of pants in comparison with the Bissel Hydroclean ones I used for car valeting, largely because they are more than just a wet filtration vacuum. My customers were surprised with the amount of dirt that came out of their car's upholstery & carpets when I emptied the tank just from the vacuuming! However, they are just too expensive and quite a faff for regular use!!!
Never seen it before! Was it ever sold on the open market or is it just a prototype or something?
It’s not another, cheaper brand, falsely rebadged to fake being a more well known make is it?
I know this will be a repeat to my last comment on your other water based machine video, but you haven't tried the ones based on the Newcombe Separator (Rainbow and its clones). In fact, I am pretty sure you can easily get your hands on at least one variant like a used Delphin. They are incredibly similar to one of the older Rainbow models sold throughout the 1980s and 1990s: The D3 and D4. In fact, I like the Delphin in design better than I do the other EuroVac Rainbow clones like the ProAqua or the Hyla as it is a superior looking machine. I don't care much for the battery power nozzle sold with some models but if you couldn't get a Rainbow, this is probably the logical alternative.
It does turn on and there aren't any broken parts :)
There's another demonstration of this on UA-cam. I've just read they are rare.
If this is anything like the Polti water filter cleaner I acquired brand-new many years ago, this cleaner will stink to high heaven of rotten potatoes in just a few days. I bought the cleaner for a whole £10 from a guy who ran a local vac shop at that time. He'd had two of them in a consignment of brand-new cleaners he'd purchased years earlier, and no one had ever shown an interest in the Polti. He just wanted them gone.
Anyway, the Polti was an absolute nightmare to pull round, due to the weight of the water, and emptying the dirt was just horrific, because when the dirt tank contains fluff, hair, dust, plus the odd pin or staple, you can't be pouring that down the drain. But the smell afterwards was on another level altogether.
All water based vacuum cleaners need to be rinsed out and left disassembled to air dry after every use. That is why it stinks. They take a large level of care and cleaning.
@@huskyvacs I can believe it. I've never had an ordinary wet & dry vac that smelled anything like it.
Happy Easter Roger. ✝
Interesting machine however after seeing the horrid bilious looking wet mess🤢 bagged is definitely the only way to go.
We had those in the US, and they were sold under the Shark name.
it was a knockoff of the hyla, and it didnt even use separator technology.
Looking at the U shape of the mount for the orange incoming dirt pipe & water shields , it looks like you could leave all that gubbins out and fit a standard Vax bag (like the dry vac/shampooer models use) ?
My fear with this type of vacuum has always been it falling on its side while it's running. I would expect it to have a bypass motor fitted, but water plus electricity is still a shock risk...
Wow interesting unboxing, the China UK equivalent of a Rainbow 🌈 😂
Looking at the colour and listening to the motor it could quite possibly be an EasyJet flight about to take off 😂
Had to laugh when you said the cleaner may not grow on you, I thought of people queing like a delayed flight to Benidorm 😅
Reckon a 6131 bag would fit this, already uses all the same tools too
That's what it's called the VAT water jet because it sounds like a jet engiyeah didn't yet and watch this guy.He made a jet powered henry
Did you test the suction with the water in? It probably has more.😊
I'm certain I remember seeing this for sale in some catalogue some what must be at least 15 years ago now, I think they were not on sale for very long.... I wonder why! , I wanted one until I realised it didn't wash so I went for the 6131 instead and I'm on my second one of those now, well the last one as they don't make them anymore, I have to say the only thing I don't like about that is the loud noise of the motor, Henry's are quiet and yet george is loud, seems to be a trait of wet and dry machines.
Give me a bagged vacuum any day!
I had a Thomas Twin TT water filtration. What a big mess it is to clean... took me a few minutes just to clean it
when are you doing the demo with george ive been waiting
…. The very concept of the “dry” dirt on your carpet/hard floors and surfaces getting wet and then being flushed down the toilet = the local sewage treatment works/the water board having to deal with that additional dirt, in comparison to being sucked into a bag > being taken out of the vacuum and thrown into your wheely bin > the dustmen coming with the dust cart and emptying the bin into it > driven to the “dry waste” plant where it is incinerated/burned [even better if the incinerator also generates electricity from the waste] I much prefer the latter
my favrouts are henry and especially george im getting a george soon
Using the same principal, couldn't you use light oil for filtration? Thinking something like citronella lamp oil, advantage would be not having to empty every use and greater longevity for the motor.
No, of course not.
Roger I am stuck between a sebo k1 or d4 not just performance also ease of use to as you have both can you tell me wich is better
If that's how you make your porridge I wouldn't be coming around for breakfast 😂
I see a bit of the “robot” from “Lost in Space” when I first saw this cleaner.
What a faf, i bet most of these machines ended up never getting emptied and stinking, i would probably be half decent if it could be converted to take a bag.
Great demo
Maybe it was made for Vax under license?
I've never really cared for water filtration. It's way too messy and complicated compared to a bag or bagless system. With that said, Rexair probably has the best system with the Rainbows (for as good as it can be). Of course, you're paying an arm, a leg, and a lung, for a Rainbow, but if one must insist on water filtration, it's really the only good option.
"Carry on cleaning" love it 😂
Rainbows are expensive because they were invented before it.Curved or kobe bryant or call bor cover any vacuum of vapor with the hair crushed wit was a barefoot or water or a cheese and bacon so i'm quite a short step
And another big problem is when the water gets saturated it will no longer clean
That vacuum sounds like a jet engine on the r c plane in the actual yet
hi ibasiac I've been watching your channel since i was 6 years old and I'm 12 now I've had to change to multiple account's so on all those accounts I've subscribed on
Omg me too
I've never heard him say a vacuum this bad
Its name is Water Jet but there’s no pump for spray extraction function? It can’t have been a three in one cleaner… there’s no exit hole for the solution tube either…
the george with the new hat like malibu stacy
Looks like something from Star Wars!
It gets no love from me sadly.water vacuums are a really silly idea.and your right Roger that is one ugly thing!
But it must be rare i ageee - ive never come accross or seen one myself so from that angle its a good thing!
What a phaff indeed, I think the designer based it on R2-D2 from Star Wars 😂😂😂
Hi Roger it looks like a Robot 😂
Classic vax
Oh my lord that is bad design, but very interesting. First of all is the major problem that the water and dirt is not being separated by the water and it gets to the motor filter. That just screams bad design. Then there is the noise level. I never knew how loud my cheap chinese headphones can get. All that space around the motor and no sound insulation at all. No wonder this was a flop and people didn't want it. After saying all this I still think that this was very interesting video.
it may look like a shark CW240
Never seen this before, the tools are earlier than the machine as the vax logo is when they change font but tools are older font in capitals. What an odd looking machine. Soo grim when it’s full 🤢
The that that vax water jet sounds like a jet engine from an r real real
looks a bit like r2d2 from certain angles
You should look at the Rainbow D and D2. They are pretty funny looking machines for sure. One's gold in colour and the other is a beautiful copper or chocolate brown with a chrome dome. Shiny like Homer Simpson's head after putting it in the Shine-o-Ball-o.
Reminds me of a Wendys diner
That thing gives me the creeps Rog.
looks like a egg timer
it's like a gross porridge! I don't see the sense in a machine like this.