This hit me hard. My mother left me to my grandmother when I was a kid, and a few years ago my mother admitted that she felt guilty for leaving me and for not taking care of me when I was just a little kid.
+Heayawn Kim she was abandoned by her mom, I was abandoned by my dad. If he says "I should never had banged Israel's mom" I would've beaten the shit outta him.
Heayawn Kim the part where she said,"I should have never given birth to you" kind of ticked me off but when I saw her cry and she said that she was a weak mother damn it just got real and also there was a saying, "words hurt more than a fists does" well sometimes, but I have also hurted someone's else feelings before and I don't know how I should fix it that person is long gone now🙁
Israel Yabuki Ehhhh my dad told me he wished he done the vasectomy so I couldn't have been conceived . But hey it dosent hurt me none since salt is painful but it's a natural antibiotic and made me stronger so nothing hurts me anymore
The mother admitted she was weak. She had a break down and turned mentally abusive something she almost regretted immediately. I feel like she knew this would keep happening and thought since she couldn't help he daughter because she was so weak she needed to leave her with her grandfather a person who could. Sure it was a shitty move but maybe it was the only thing she thought was an option. We say terrible things when we feel trapped and can't help the person we love. Our actions don't always make sense.
I actually agree with DoReLeigh44 here This situation between kumiko and kotoura is not so black and white. If you look at the first episode again you'll see that the mother tried everything she could to help kotoura, taking her to various doctors to try and 'cure' her. When that failed she became so desperate that she started thinking kotoura was possessed by an evil spirit and took her to a shrine. If anything it looks like kumiko realised afterwards that she did not have the mental fortitude to raise such a special child let alone one that could not control her mind reading abilities to the point where she often confused reading minds with people actually talking which got her into a lot of trouble at school. I do agree that kumiko should not have said that and from the looks of it she never wanted to either but i believe she did it so as to make sure Kotoura would no longer feel any attachment while leaving her with her grandfather but of course that only created another problem. There is far more that went on between them than "cruel mother abandon and traumatize poor innocent child".
Sorry but I will never understand the whole "be cruel to someone so that they stop caring about you and go on with their lifes" trope, especially when you do that to children who are more likely to get traumatized by such things.
Damian Worek well that's understandable, being mean to the person you care about can confuse many when they only see it on the surface level but often times this trope is used in more complex matters.
kibara seriously? How much of my reply did you read? I DO NOT AGREE WITH WHAT SHE DID. That being said, this is a case of "good intentions but wrong decision". What she said to kotoura was really mean, no denying that, but she did it to make sure that kotoura would no longer feel attachment to her while she lives with her grandfather. Which was really stupid but this situation is not so black and white.
Ya gotta love how the mom getting pushed would've had her head hit the bed or the bedframe's corner after she pushed her. But then the next scene it looks as if she was pushed onto the futon from the end of the bed...
I love how even though she was still bitter at her daughter that she still cared for her child's safety. Yeah sure the mother was still horrible for what she did, but you cannot deny that she still had mother instincts to make sure koutoura didn't go alone at night. All in all she was at least still protecting her daughter.
darkyami12141 Simple logic doesn’t justify her actions her being a decent guest does not make up for her mistakes as a mother this is a woman that abandoned her child because she couldn’t get past her own issues and after one little peptalk if you’re on the path to recovery I’m sorry that’s nonsensical even for this kind of C level show
Did you remember when she threw the glass at the girl in the past so inside the glass is alchohal so it made the mother get mad easely the mother is drunk thats your awnswer
me=im not crying...i just have something in my eyes pal=whaats in you eyes? me=TTTEEEAAAAAARRRRRRRRRSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Analysis begin : 1:08 indicates that her mother still have sense of protection for her 5:48 a very cute moment, it'll make you smile while drinking your own tears
@@mousysaint9143 I'm so sorry if your tiny little brain can't comprehend a simple sentence I constructed. I'll do better next time to simplify it for you, maybe beneath kindergarten level. Maybe
@@mousysaint9143 I don't know why you're still replying and trying so hard to counter my 'insults' but just try to understand that every reply you make sounds like a child struggling to survive in the Internet. And I didn't even start this farce because of how I'm attached to this anime. It's your child-like attitude that pisses people off. Try to remember that when you turn into an adult someday, all right?
I noticed that as well: how the shot is set up almost parallel to when her mother literally pushed Kotoura away all those years ago, as this was the turning point where Kotoura finally decided to stand up for herself.
Yeah but you gotta be empathetic your husband you trusted cheated on you and you found out through ur daughters telepathy. It was more of an in the momment of a cluster of emotions she felt Pain, Betrayal, denial, sorrow and Hatred. At that momment defiantly didn't mean whatbshe said it was a bust of emotion but she couldn't handle the mental strain of living with the man who cheated on her. Urnm right she shouldn't have elft her child behind period or blamed her in any means. But because she said those things to her daughter she felt guilt and self pity to point assumednm for long whilemit was better she didn't have her around. And she regretted the way she left things for so long. But at the end of the day if her daughter needs her or is in danger she'll defiantly take action. It may seek unforgivable form the childs perspective but from what she saw and felt in her moms dream she knew it was so much mor complicated underneath it all.
@@Adam-wy7mj All for sympathizing with her side of the problem and giving forgiveness to those who earnestly seek it but her husband left well before she did. I'm sure it was a contributing factor to her emotions and decision then but it was not a heat of the moment cause of her actions.
It's not unforgivable...many children learn to forgive their parents for abandoning them. Sure at first there are feelings such as hatred, denial, confusion, regret, horror, sadness, and etc. but they soon learn that it was for their own good. Sometimes a parent can't handle having a child or just doesn't love them, or the parent is forced to leave them because of issues that they couldn't control, some leave because they are alcoholics and they want to try to stop for their child, some are just plain alcoholics and can't stop, and some weren't strong enough to take on the role. Many parents left their kids for selfish and selfless reasons. You're right though you can't change the fact that the child was abandoned...but we should grateful that the parents left before it got to the point of neglect or abuse just because the parent couldn't control him/herself.
Yea me too and loved what happens next when she pushed her, that was karma right there :) It was nice to see her bring out all her emotion that she was holding from all those years
In my opinion: Apologizing and saying you’re weak is one thing, but it still doesn’t excuse the fact that you shouldn’t have left your child. You should stick with them through thick and thin no matter what she has or do. It’s called supportive.
Life doesn’t give second chances. She blew her one chance at being a mother, she won’t get another and shouldn’t. And her sob story gains her no sympathy from me.
@@theodorecarter6601 Being a devil's advocate here now, I think it's fairly reasoned out how she ended up abandoning Kotoura. Imagine being cheated with by your husband and the info came from your child who you just discovered has that supernatural power right then and there. It would've been an action done as a result of all that combined, and it's clear she does regret leaving her. Along the way, she might've just thought that at that point, Kotoura would be better off without her and thus she felt the need to take on that cold shell that is obviously just there as a cover as seen in the end here.
@@RebelTheArtGal I’m sure Kotoura’s gramps would understand if he hears it, which he undoubtedly has. NOT!! Judging by his reaction at the end, he doesn’t seem to have forgiven his daughter for abandoning Kotoura, which is a very realistic outcome. So yeah, her actions were wrong no matter what side of the story you hear.
@@RebelTheArtGal well then hate the dude who cheated and lash out at HIM, the kid did nothing wrong, if anything she did her mother a favor by telling her. She would’ve found out eventually anyway and the would’ve gotten pissed at her daughter for not telling right away if she kept quiet then. A lot of people say to put yourself in their shoes and maybe you’ll understand, but that’s the thing, I did put myself in her shoes and I STILL wouldn’t have done what she did, ESPECIALLY to a kid who doesn’t even fully comprehend the situation, sure I’d be sad and irritated but not at everything that would be in way
@@theodorecarter6601 "life doesnt give second chance", its sad how this is basically cancel culture at its finest, yes, kotoura mom did something terribly wrong, but thats in the past, let me be clear here, what she did is undoubtedly unforgivable, but, she still can deserve a second chance, its up to the person to work towards that and show they gained it or deserved it, what you did in the past, is in the past, there is no way to change that, but you can still ammend it, read well, ammend, not fix or turn back to how it was, thats the point on this scene, she refalls in her self destructive behaviours during it, but at the end, one can see she is taking the steps to improve even if a bit as a start, thats the point, things cant go back to how theyy are and are different, seen with kotoura noting the food is different to how she asked for it or how she remembers it, but its a connection that she hasnt lost and can be changed from sour to bittersweet if at all
@@lamcetots9677 What stuff am I making up...? And what does it matter if this won't happen in my life? I can't have an opinion on what someone did to another person? The mother should be forgiven, I'm just saying the whole situation was messed up and I'm still irritated with the mom
they are terrible parents, no matter how touching this scene is, i still hate her mother so much, saying to your kid that you wish they never born is so unforgivable,,,
I was so mad at the mom because she'd wish she never gave birth to her daughter and the daughter was trying to say sorry that she reads people's minds, but the mom pushed her back!!!...that hurts my hearts so bad and I was so happy that the mom got pushed back because she deserved it, but now she turned nice and I am happy for that! 🙂
I don’t think this woman can ever be truly forgiven for what she’s done. No matter her reason for doing it. But, with some effort and patience, they both can start on the road to healing.
They are still family after all. If she tried to reconcile, I don't see the reason to reject her. Sure she can't just suddenly act like a mother, but at least she can be there for her daughter.
Mom: I shouldn't give birth to you Me: great cause I didn't even want to be born (walks to room) Mom: why did I say that to her That well happen if I hade that mean mother but at least I had a loved family not a mean family
My answer instead: Did I even give you permission to give life to me? *scoffs* Did I even want to live? Please~ I never even want to live in this ugly world that is filled with generality of disgusting humans. *frowns* If God gave me a choice on where world to live.... I would've lived in KHR world where Tsuna will accept me..... Even if I am so violent and acts like a normal human..... It's hard to control the monster inside you.... That monster will swallow me someday.... I just want someone who will accept me for who I truly am and will not judge me... The one who will listen to my reasons and problems.... *smiles* I really wanted that but..... I have.... Very severe trust issues that I keep all people at my arms length..
"I didn't understand what my mother was really feeling" Um, no. Nothing in this world can ever excuse that woman for saying to her own child that she should have never been born. Japan has some serious issues with these things. THERE IS *NO* EXCUSE!!
Her mother is also someone who have feelings, having experienced things and going in the wrong way her mother might had a mental breakdown at some point. You can watch the previous episodes when her mother brought haruka to the hospital, that time she is already suffering and on the edge.
When you break down over time, rash things are conveyed to others, even when the intent is in the completely different direction. If you were to watch the prologue (hard to watch...), then you can see her trying, failing, and withering already... Sure it is not something very forgivable, if at all. But with all that pressure, one couldn’t really hold back... Honestly, the father is the worst. He didn’t even try.
@@soniczth8534 She doesn't. If you look back at the beginning, you saw how motherly she was with Haruka. But when she finds out about her weird nature, her husband did fuck all to help which he's the blame for that. She went to every clinic and even to the point to have priest to perform an exorcism since she thought Haruka was possessed but to her dismay, nothing could be helped. Then on the day she abandoned her and saying that she shouldn't have given birth to her, she was torn apart because she knew it wasn't Haruka's fault that she had the ESP ability. She wanted Haruka to hate her and blame her for not being a good mother to her even though Haruka knows she did her best to help her but she was ashame for being pathetic in front of her daughter and that is why their relationship went so sour and sweet in the end.
Incredibly valuable life lesson here. Don't judge what is on the surface on how some actions affect people. Also a lesson that even that most heartless of people are never too far gone.
But the one who was hurt the most was kotoura san. She was just a little girl when this shit has happened, while her mother is a grown up. When she and her daughter was suffering she should have just comforted her rather than letting her own father comfort her own daughter. Clearly she cant win mother of the year award... But if I was the daughter it will take years to forgive my mother. The mother hurt her daughter more than her classmates did... plus the "I wish you were never born" like... really nigga? Did you have to add that up? Im sorry im just letting all of my emotions out
I feel her so much but in my fathers shoes of course Im 14 at the moment i grew up knowing nothing but drugs and alcohol my parents would do this stuff often but as a child how was i post to notice but when i turned 9 my mom passed away of alcohol abuse and that moment on my dad got worse with it and i started to realize what was going on and even tried stopping it but when i did he would tell me things he shouldnt have but when i turned 13 he walked out on me and I thought I had nothing and no one but one day I heard him over talking about how he was so sorry and never meant for any of this to happen and wish he could take bk everything he ever did and started crying that moment has scared me cause at that moment I realized he was a single parent trying to his best and lost one of the most important things in his world and didnt know what to do and guys all I'm saying is these things can really ruin a persons life and don't ever do it cause you have no clue what will happen my childhood has made me the compassionate,loving,caring,funny,positive person I am today and I will never allow my child to have the life I did cause every child deserves the best no matter how mean they are their kids we was them once AMD everyone makes mistakes and every mistake can be fixed😁😊
She has the ability to read minds. For the first time she realized that her mom never hated her and suffered trauma of her own. Also she is more or less out of the trauma at this point.
Thanks that I am not the only one. Also there are things that cannot be forgiven. For example, I would never forgive my father that he left my mom and me.
The only Character who need to be blame is Kotoura F*cking Dad 5 years after I write this comment and I see alot of people here miss my point by 100 miles The reason why I blame the father back than is that he doesn't spend time and try to fix the problem with her mother. If he had the time to talk and solve the problem with the mother first, the woman will not cheat in the first place. Did I excused the mother behavior? Hell nah, but all of this happen because of the father actions
Really, because I don't see the father turning up unannounced at the victims house to CONTINUE abusing them. If you're going to be a trashfire of a human being, the least you can do is keep away from your victim instead of re-opening the old wounds you inflicted.
Krljavi Dzo I mean she/he’s not wrong if he didn’t have a affair with that lady they wouldn’t have broken up but even if he didn’t that wouldn’t stop the bullies at school and her mother so it’s partially his fault
His fault the marriage ended at best, but if it was just a parental breakup it wouldn't be nearly the same kind of problem. Having your marriage end doesn't make you abuse your child. Simple as :p
5:05 how to prove that the mother truly loved her daughter since the very beginning. She may not had much screen time but there was hidden reason why she was in opening and not her husband. 6:00 Her motherly side is showing
I'm sure I'm going to get a lot of hate for this-- I really wanted to like this show and support it, I really did, but this brought way too many memories from my past family. The way they ended it really just gave the impression that the abusers deserve sympathy too. I believe that adults should take responsibility for their actions, Haruka's mother, my parents, and even myself. This ending really leaves the audience to view abusers differently, to make them think the abusee did something wrong for not understanding the abuser. I don't and never want to understand why my parents abused me as a child, it has left so many traumatized moments in my life and to think that this shows reasoning is I was in the wrong because I didn't understand, really doesn't settle well with me. If someone is abusing you, you have every right to express your pain, don't sympathize with their reasoning. No one has the right to abuse someone.
Trash No, it's not. Dont think that because it happened this way for you, it will for everybody. Haruka's mother has made some progress and regrets what she did to her daughter. I get it, you identified yourself in haruka, but this show wasn't made to tell your story, it was made to tell Haruka's.
It’s Haruka’s Character. She tends to blame herself for everything, and she always forgives others (Moritani, the detective) It’s how she lives her life. It’s her, not you.
I don't disagree. However... I identify myself with Haruka a lot including her situation and her mom. Honestly, this scene made me laugh a little because almost the exact same thing happened, minus the pillows (which would have hurt less) I learned a lot since things got worst and I was forced to leave. But... Because of what I learned, how she became this way, why she became like this, and how everything was connected... I don't blame this scene too much... you don't have to forgive them and everyone's situation is different. I haven't forgiven her... her scars are too deep, but I finally saw her own... and that was something that actually brought us back together. We are both helping each other move on... she apologizes constantly... nothing can take it back... "Seek first to understand, than to be understood' I'm not saying understanding her to make it ok for what she did, but it made it easier to reach her and fix what damage we had. That's what I get from this scene. We both voiced our frustration and after it was said... it seemed pretty dumb on both of us... then we laughed at our own misery... heh even the part in choice of men. Even now, I'm finding connections to my Dad after he wasn't in my life... understanding them and finding connections, doesn't right wrongs, but it can smooth the future and patch a hole in the path. It's how you want to live and see it, this is how I see it and my experience. Some really don't deserve it, but I also know I can't judge for I'm not God. Only He sees what my family has done and how they lived when I wasn't there. I still hurt from my past too, but... I'm glad I was given a chance to rekindle something with my folks.
I feel like this is the only few animes where abandonment was handled pretty well. I mean heck, most mothers leave their child for stupid reasons in most animes (like in a certain anime where said mom left her child for not being good at a certain sport she was passionate about) but here, you understand why Kotoura's mother left. She didn't have the mental capacity to keep going, she felt herself going insane and left like she couldn't do a better job for her child anymore. Does it justify her leaving her child and giving her trauma of abandonment, *NO.* But you understand why she did it. It made her character pretty fleshed out and human, she made mistakes and she's definitely flawed however... Although she's no hero, she's no villain either.
**dodges mom's hit** me:OH!! O.... OOOH!!! **Pushes her to the bed** me: OHHHHHH!! OHHH SHIIIIIT!!! **Begins hitting her with the pillow** (multiple hit marker sounds) me: OH MAH GAWWD!!! MOM GET THE CAMERA OSHI- OHHH OOOH OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
Let's get one thing straight, Kumiko didn't "just give up" on Haruka, she tried everything in order to know what was wrong with her, doctors, and priests. Even if she left she regret having to become a bad person and leave her. Haruka forgave her so fast because she wanted to have happy times with her mother again because Haruka isn't one to hold a grudge. At least Kumiko tried to make up, even if it was in an assholish way, but you can't just act like everything is normal either, so the way she went about it was right. As time goes on she can return to her old ways. And hey, the light in her eyes returned! Also the dad didn't even try to do anything from the start, and I would tell my child i didnt love her if i didnt want her to forgive me, but Haruka is too nice
This is my favourite scene since: 1. Pillow Fight! 2. Mother is happy again! 3. SLEEP AND HUG WITH MOTHER!!! 4. CUTENESS OVERLOAD!!!!!!!! i’m serious bruh the families back together!
Some of you guys might be missing the entire point of the resolution. I don't think the anime really is talking about excuses and trying to preach about how it's okay to allow abusive people into your life, but I think it's more talking about growing past the torment and forgiving, understanding what other people are feeling and despite not being an excuse that anyone can grow past the abuse they grew with. It's about letting go, because unlike Kotoura we don't truly know what the other person may be feeling. Nobody's perfect and there's not always a redemption, but there's always a new start. Kotoura's mother was abusive and definitely a cheating liar, but she admitted her faults and weakness. The show doesn't say she was a good mother or even excuses it. But Kotoura's also mature enough to see what she was truly feeling and forgive her mother for being such a way. There's no redemption arc for her mother, there's no rekindling, there's no "I'm gonna be there for you from now on" or "I'll do better". Her mother makes food for her and leaves without a word as a form of possibly saying "I love you and I'm sorry" without really saying it, because some people are too weak to fully apologize. Even if not, it could just be her own way to start a new beginning. And Kotoura accepts the food, saying she's also willing to start something new. It's realistic. It doesn't push anything. Kotoura has friends already and came out of her shell, but the thing that hurt her in the beginning was the fact that her mother was a bad mother. Despite growing past some of that, it still hurt her. And she finally opened up about it to her. She finally aired out her grievances. But in accepting her mother's food after an argument and a fight, finally letting everything out, she can finally begin the process of moving past the very thing that hurt her in the first place. Before anyone uses their personal stories as a means of being walking proof to dispute, I've been through it too. And I forgave all my abusers. Nobody's perfect and I definitely shut myself out as well as being someone else's thorn on the side. Nobody's perfect. But I imagine that some people make bad decisions and end up regretting it. Some people are weak and take it out on others. It's not an excuse, but you've also done crappy things to people and caused them damage whether you realize it or not. You're well in your right to believe that cutting people off is the right thing to do, but in reality, we either move past it through cutting ties and burning bridges, forgiveness and forgetting or not forgetting. But the anime is pushing towards the forgiveness side and isn't wrong for doing so. There's no definitive right answer but everyone has their own healing process. The fact of it all is that if you don't move past it, it will hurt forever until there's a form of closure. And staying in your shell is not the right one.
The dad didn't intrude on her home and openly continue to abuse her while she was being nice, insult her attempts to heal, and then lash out when she didn't take it. The dad might be a gigantic asshole, but the mother is a knowing and willing abuser who just got forgiven with not only zero effort, but while actually actively continuing to demean and hurt the victim.
+jenna milligan I completely agree. Man, I know there are parents out there who're like her and worse, but even seeing this happen in a 2D world still vexes me. I know I would've punched the living daylights out of her (cause slap sounds way less painful than slap).
I cried like a baby during this scene. Especially at the end when Haruka found out how her mom was really feeling about the past. It honestly tears me apart to know how hard it was for Haruka to live her life alone and how hard it was for her mother to leave her and live knowing that she can't be there for her daughter when she needs her most 😞
when i watched this it was after watching school days. i was half expecting this to end with a nice boat specially because of the serial assaulter / killer arc and also because the one who suggested that I watch this also recomended that I watch school days.
I couldnt stay mad at her mom after this scene. Yes what she did was incredibly horrible but I guess she just wanted to make Kotoura hated her so Kotoura could move on without her. Like the mom said, with her state that time she couldnt help Kotoura. She was depressed (from trying to get help for Kotoura countless times and the husband didnt even care one bit) and she turned to be an alcoholic and a cheater too when she found out the husband had an affair behind her Also, the worst person here should be her dad. He had never lend a help when Kotoura's mom asked for it many times and in the end Kotoura's mom was the person had to leave her to the grandpa. So... the dad must had left them both long ago... 🤔
The mom abandons her daughter (in a needlessly heartless and cruel way mind you), shows up again unannounced, begins ordering her to make her dinner, blatantly insults her, initially refuses to take responsibility for her actions and was straight up about to slap her daughter in the face because she stood up to her. And we are expected to feel bad her because "she felt REALLY sad when she abandoned her daughter!" Honestly, just an awful character and an awful message overall. It doesn't matter what you feel on the inside, it is your actions that should define who you are. The fact that Kotoura feels guilty that she didn't consider her mom's feelings when she was in KINDERGARTEN is flat-out ridiculous. I don't care if the mom had a shitty life after the divorce, if we can use our own hardships to justify our terrible actions, then no one should feel bad about Hitler since his life sucked too.
@@kingrocky7519 hey, I agree with you from the most part but ffs they're not trying to justify her actions ( well, I don't ) it's still wrong a horrible, however she never intended to be that way. like depression can make people push people away from them, specially their loved ones. the husband IS the evil guy here for just straight up leaving the two, unlike the mom who wants to see her daughter again and see how was she doing. Due to her problems she has a hard time being soft to the person she just hurt badly. At least she still shows some love to her daughter out of secret.
@@wishiirasbluegarden3423 Yeah, but I still don't buy it. Seriously, after watching something like BoJack Horseman, a show that has a similarly depressed character whose actions negatively affect those around him, I have less sympathy for shows that think depression is an excuse for being a bad person. Sure, the husband sucks and was arguably way worse, but that in no way excuses the mother for abandoning her daughter. They may not be justifying her actions, but they certainly are giving her an unrealistic amount of leniency, despite her basically causing Kotoura just as much pain as her father for most of her life. You don't get to be an awful person to someone for most of their life, show up randomly one day to say that you love them, and act as though all the pain is gone. That isn't how the world works, and is honestly the textbook definition of an abusive relationship. I cannot get over Kotoura crying and feeling guilty about not understanding why her mom abandoned her, where there was no good reason for her to do so. And if the reason was that she felt she couldn't be a good mother (which in my opinion is just selfish reasoning to avoid your responsibilities), then she doesn't get to come back and expect her daughter to love her again after ONE fight. If you wanna feel bad about yourself, fine, no one is stopping you. But if those feelings start negatively affecting others, no one needs to adjust themselves to feel bad for you. That's just my opinion.
Right, I have quite a few issues with this scene, and I'm not the only one. Warning: It's going to be a long one. First, the mother lets herself into Kotoura's house and acts like she has a God given right to be there and acts as if she owns the place, when she is lucky her daughter even lets her within five miles of her. Instead of 'hello' and other pleasantries, she spends the majority of the time throwing insults and complaints at her daughter, who is nothing but gracious and walks on eggshells around her mother the entire time, and quite frankly who can blame her? The fact that she even lets Kumiko stay is saint-like mercy in itself. Considering everything that has gone on, the least Kumiko could do was to try and behave kindly to her daughter, even if she finds it difficult. Kumiko then proceeds to demand refreshments (offering to come with her as a safeguard doesn't cover it - Kumiko could very well go by herself, her daughter just got back home from being out. Besides which, Kotoura owes her nothing. I suspect the strong filial duty of Japanese and Asian societies in general is driving her actions more than what one would expect from a girl towards her abusive mother. Then, expectedly, Kumiko gets drunk. Why her daughter, knowing full well what happens when her thoughtless mother gets access to the bottle, allowed her to do this I put down to her frankly piteous desire to please the mother most daughters would have kicked out the door long ago. Expectedly, Kumiko gets drunk, and, expectedly, things go sour. Kumiko has the audacity and heartlessness to get angry at her daughter (who has let her stay, bought her food, bowed to her at every turn) and mock her for her 'lies' about having any friends. Any mother with a shred of self-reflection and compassion, feeling guilty for her past actions, would never let these words pass her lips - drunk or otherwise. She would also be GLAD that her daughter has finally found happiness - happiness she and her husband (but mostly her) helped destroy. She is clearly projecting her own bitterness onto Kotoura. Instead of feeling remorse for having spoken this way after being rightly called out by her daughter, Kumiko gets angry, and accuses Kotoura - of all things - of being selfish, when all this time Kotoura has done nothing but think about her mother and do right by her. Kotoura was abandoned by the one person who should have stuck by her through everything, left to be further emotionally destroyed and almost left catatonic and bereft of happiness. And Kumiko has the audacity to try and turn the tables and make her feel guilty for inadvertently hurting others due to a power she didn't understand, let alone know how to control? Kotoura hurt without meaning to, Kumiko hurt knowing full well what their impact would mean. Kumiko's hypocrisy goes further when she accuses her own daughter of having bad taste in men, glossing over the fact that Kotoura's man actually loves her, whereas Kumiko's relationships are an embarrassment. Kumiko tries to pull 'I'm your mother, you can't talk to me like that! bull. She isn't repentant, she hasn't learned. Then once again Kumiko puts her hand on her daughter and attempts to hit her. Thankfully, Kotoura stops it by pushing her mother onto the bed - reminiscent of the time when Kumiko did the same when she abandoned her daughter to her misery. Then the whole thing devolves into a pillow fight, which many have taken to be partly humorous, and it is played as such, which I find really, really stupid. It kills the drama and reduces what could have been a verbal beat-down from daughter to mother - again reminiscent of the time Kumiko abandoned her - into play-fighting. It's compounded by cutting AWAY from the fight to some guy walking his dog outside hearing the commotion. Wow. What could have been a reality-check for the bitch of a mother who still cannot seem to conceive any suffering besides her own, let alone her own daughter, is little more than a semi-light-hearted pillow fight. When the fight is over, Kumiko still reveals her tactlessness and conveniently selective memory, not recalling the time when she told her daughter to shut up about the thoughts she hears, putting her daughter in potential danger in the event she hears something like what she heard from Tsuyama. Kumiko still has the affront to compare her bad taste in men with that of her daughter - something Kotoura rightly points out. Kotoura's pervy man loves her and cares for her (and is her own age/roughly), while Tsuyama is an ADULT MAN perving on a child. Kumiko then wants to drink some more. Does this stupid alcoholic bitch never learn? Oh, and the icing on the cake! Kumiko orders Kotoura to clean up the mess they JOINTLY made during their spat. When Kotoura (rightly) tells her that she should help clean up the mess she jointly caused, Kumiko mentions the promise a young, desperate Kotoura made when her mother was about to leave about doing the cooking and the cleaning - you know, right before Kumiko pushed her away and told her she wished Kotoura had never been born and abandoned her! And THEN Kotoura reacts in a sort of exasperated 'Oh mother!' way, not 'Oh yeah, that was right before you pushed me, wished I was never born and abandoned me to my misery! Get out of my house, you selfish, alcoholic, thoughtless bitch! I'll dance on your grave!' And then Kotoura OBEYS HER. She literally just enabled her mother's thoughtlessness, treated a reminder of the worst day of her life (one of many) as an embarrassing 'Oh mother dear' moment, and reset their dynamic of dutiful, passive daughter and (bitch) abusive mother right back to the way the scene began in the space of a few seconds. And she does the cleaning up while the bitch sleeps (in what is the most unlikely sleeping position I've ever seen). Oh, but it's all alright because poor Kumiko cried and felt BAD. Note the bitch didn't have the guts to apologise outright to her daughter's face and confront every painful thing that her daughter went through before and after her abandoned her daughter. Kotoura sees her mother's tears, and then FEELS BAD HERSELF for not seeing this at the time, mental scarring and crushing agony be damned. What Kotoura went through that day is now placed under that of her selfish, weak, bitch mother. How could any child be expected to understand or even care about what her mother was feeling at a time like that? Remember, Kotoura's actions where that of an innocent child who couldn't understand her powers - Kumiko's were that of an adult with full control of her actions and the fate of her child. She CHOSE to roughly push her daughter to the floor. She CHOSE to tell her terrified, distraught daughter that it was all her fault and she didn't want anything to do with her. She CHOSE to tell her distraught daughter that wished she'd never been born, abandoning her to years of cruelty and misery, rather than at least explaining that she can't cope and that it was best she stay with her grandfather while she sought help. NOPE, I wish I never gave you life, I'm out of here! Have fun with your psychological trauma! The tears she shed after the fact don't matter. Ever. At all. And that fact that this is what acts as the healing factor and gets Kotoura to snuggle next to her mother and secure a happy ending is madness to me. As far as I am concerned this scene should and could only exist as a bad ending where a daughter, desperate for love, excuses and dismisses all the pain she went through just for a scrap of it from a heartless, thoughtless bitch of a mother. The kicker? When Kotoura wakes up, her mother isn't there to share the beloved breakfast meal with her daughter - she's gone! And the meal is bitter and overdone!! I'd laugh if it wasn't so pathetic and awful. Filial duty wins out in the end, but I believe any daughter with a shred of self-worth and basis in reality would have kicked her into the dirt right after throwing back in her face every painful thing she went through pre and post abandonment - and a good, hard push to into the dirt for good measure! Fuck Kumiko, she belongs in hell!
This comment gives me hope. Pretty depressing seeing all the other comments treating this scene as a happy revelation and instant redemption thing. I can only hope the people who think that way are really young and haven't experienced any remote whiff of abuse. Can you imagine what would happen if this anime was more self-aware and was working on trope deconstruction? The following episodes would have been utterly brutal. Urgh. Well yeah, a year later but thanks for making this comment exist :P
Take all my YES! I literally screamed at the screen for the entire scene. It's absolutely disgusting, and not in the good intended way. It's pretty much the most unearned redemption arc in the history of fiction. It brought down an okay 7/10 show to the dumpster fire 2/10 in an instant for me.
Marliana Buchanan I believe it's from the alchohol and the bitterness, near the end, when Kotoura-San said "I want my eggs over-easy" brought the sweetness and love back to Kumiko's heart, that's just my theory though.
AHHH THE FEELS QAQ Also I love how Kotoura forgives her easily, no matter how much pain her mother gave her, she didn't focus on the negative, pain, hatred, etc..., but focused on loving her mom back and her mom loving her back too! :D Kotoura is very kind and loving :D pls make season 2 of did :D
You really shouldn't. Real life isn't anime, and this clip honestly glazes over the fact the mother still knowingly and willingly salted the wounds she caused after she randomly re-entered her childs life. She doesn't deserve forgiveness. It is never the responsibility of the victim to forgive an abuser, and if they so choose to do so, the abuser needs to have changed, grown, and learned to own the mistakes they made, not just happily repeat them.
That's not necessarily true. While she was a mega bitch for leaving her, I can see why she did. She wanted to save Kotoura and raise her, but she physically couldn't take the pressure of being divorced and having a child who literally has no friends and can constantly read her mind. she wanted her to live without one more thing that could add pressure to her.
mrmudzahedini i think , the system of forgiveness are vary from each cultures . At least her mother had tried several times to got her daugter's forgives , but she couldn't expresses it so easily ... You much watch the whole series to know her mother's way of life , not with your selfish kind of mind
mrmudzahedini oh now i'm understand , sorry . But honestly , I don't agree with you at the first before I read your reply . Yes , as a human isn't easy to forgives other who had make us suffer . But If they are conscious and regretted their acts , why won't we give them a try to get our forgives ?
mrmudzahedini In this series , I catch the moral message " think before you act something , or you'll regret it " at least in some occasion , her mother was regretted her acts that already changes her daughter . She try to communicates with her daughter and admitted her faults , but there are some factor that make her won't that easy to do it . In my culture there is a word says " how bad are your parents for you , they'll always be the best parents for you . Except your parents doesn't know how to be a human then they don't deserve to educate you , but once again , they give you body to live in this world . Think about it again " .
mrmudzahedini yeah , you 're right . I'm totally agree with you . Ecspecially in karma philosophy , cause I'm a Buddhist and I'm very rely on it , but once again we hope that that kind of things won't happen in the life .... we love peace , right?
The detail that honestly gets me the most is the mothers eyes change back to what it originally was. She got the light and shine of her eyes back.
That was the thing that got me as well. 😢 It was much sadder that way.
+Emoji Piggie agreed 😢
Yea same
idem
Armando Fornario
I never knew a pillow fight could be so emotional.
xd
Ikr 😭😭
I never knew, cutting a onion, won't do the same as watching this video. ;-;
Oh Sebastian, your pic is so Hot JK🤣🤣🤣🤣
Armim Arlert xD lmao
Mom: “You’re just a child! Don’t take that attitude with me!”
Kotoura: “And you’re supposed to be an adult?”
R o a s t e d
@kishon bowen two years too late,unfortunately
@kishon bowen "insert funny mom joke here"
@kishon bowen *inserts funny fortnite kid joke*
@@francomarrocu7430 We got the UA-cam comment police over here. Regulation number 204.2 no posting comments after 2 years.
Damn kishon is edgy as hell
6:01 I can see what people are saying about her eyes changed.
It’s like the darkness inside her left and the light returned.
Thats what i was thinking you just read my mind
Cryztle dark Aria playz And cryztle Lmao
Same thing with the detective
Why is the mum blushing ☺️ tho
Yoo they stole this from the grinch
Damn these invisible ninjas are cutting onions in my room again DAMN YOU INVISIBLE NINJAS
YAS DAMN YOU INVISIBLE NINJAAAAAAS!
GET THE SWORDS GRANADES AND MACHINE GUNS!
CHAAAARGE
Attack On Sasha. ya they are in my room too
DARNED INVISIBLE NINJA
+Attack on Sasha
Awesome. My new favorite excuse. XD
*stops in the middle of cutting an onion*
*wearing a ninja outfit*
*slowly inches away*
Attack On Sasha its john cena
This hit me hard. My mother left me to my grandmother when I was a kid, and a few years ago my mother admitted that she felt guilty for leaving me and for not taking care of me when I was just a little kid.
John Jordan Baleros Bro stay strong bro eat snickers
@@chocolatebanana1447 I think he's not hungry bro xD
thats not a gangsta moment
Same thing happened to my father
Same
*mom* "Why are you crying?"
*me* "No, I'm just cutting onions. In my room.. on my computer....."
What did you make with the onions.
Shayek Miah I used them in a beef based Thai soup.
TheLeafySpring
Sounds good, I might have to make that while watching the ending of plastic memories.
Shayek Miah haven't seen that show yet, how is it?
Pretty good I would recommend it.
I absolutely hate it when moms say that they shouldn't have given birth to them! That hurts more than cuts and bruises altogether!
+Heayawn Kim she was abandoned by her mom, I was abandoned by my dad. If he says "I should never had banged Israel's mom" I would've beaten the shit outta him.
Heayawn Kim the part where she said,"I should have never given birth to you" kind of ticked me off but when I saw her cry and she said that she was a weak mother damn it just got real and also there was a saying, "words hurt more than a fists does" well sometimes, but I have also hurted someone's else feelings before and I don't know how I should fix it that person is long gone now🙁
I'm such a douchebag
Israel Yabuki Ehhhh my dad told me he wished he done the vasectomy so I couldn't have been conceived . But hey it dosent hurt me none since salt is painful but it's a natural antibiotic and made me stronger so nothing hurts me anymore
lel i get to hear that every month ..
3:10 TOP 10 BEST ANIME FIGHTS!!!!
Lol, Daughter VS Mother!
XD
LOL
I Think Her Mother Lied About Her Wanting To Go To A Resteraunt. And I Think She Came Here To See Her Child Once Again.
Goddess Princess Skylar we already knew that
OMG really!! I totally didn't know that!! (lol)
STOP CAPITALIZING THE BEGINNING OF EVERY WORD
ejej shej why not?
If you watched enough anime you should know this already you bitch
6:00 God damn it, these feels. They way her eyes change back
STRQROW I know
STRQROW IKR 😢
STRQROW **The*
ps IKR😩😩😩
She finally understand what is the meaning of family; family matter.
6:03 is the moment when her mother's eyes finally turn.
Return
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The mother admitted she was weak. She had a break down and turned mentally abusive something she almost regretted immediately. I feel like she knew this would keep happening and thought since she couldn't help he daughter because she was so weak she needed to leave her with her grandfather a person who could. Sure it was a shitty move but maybe it was the only thing she thought was an option. We say terrible things when we feel trapped and can't help the person we love. Our actions don't always make sense.
Sorry but that's just stupid. If she thought she was weak then why not just leave without saying anything? Why say I wish you never were born?
I actually agree with DoReLeigh44
here This situation between kumiko and kotoura is not so black and white. If you look at the first episode again you'll see that the mother tried everything she could to help kotoura, taking her to various doctors to try and 'cure' her. When that failed she became so desperate that she started thinking kotoura was possessed by an evil spirit and took her to a shrine. If anything it looks like kumiko realised afterwards that she did not have the mental fortitude to raise such a special child let alone one that could not control her mind reading abilities to the point where she often confused reading minds with people actually talking which got her into a lot of trouble at school.
I do agree that kumiko should not have said that and from the looks of it she never wanted to either but i believe she did it so as to make sure Kotoura would no longer feel any attachment while leaving her with her grandfather but of course that only created another problem. There is far more that went on between them than "cruel mother abandon and traumatize poor innocent child".
Sorry but I will never understand the whole "be cruel to someone so that they stop caring about you and go on with their lifes" trope, especially when you do that to children who are more likely to get traumatized by such things.
Damian Worek
well that's understandable, being mean to the person you care about can confuse many when they only see it on the surface level but often times this trope is used in more complex matters.
kibara seriously? How much of my reply did you read? I DO NOT AGREE WITH WHAT SHE DID. That being said, this is a case of "good intentions but wrong decision". What she said to kotoura was really mean, no denying that, but she did it to make sure that kotoura would no longer feel attachment to her while she lives with her grandfather. Which was really stupid but this situation is not so black and white.
This is...one mother who won't win "mother of the year" anytime soon...
+Michael VPS that award is reserved for Kiryuuin Ragyo
Daniel Polvo ...what exactly do you define as a "good" mother?? O_O
+Daniel Polvo Hold up what about your mother, Luffy?
+AsurasPath22 Huh? Mom?... Do I have a mom?
Hahahahahha sooooo right
Who broke the replay button 3:05 when she "dodge and pushed her mother"? I did lol
Meh
Ya gotta love how the mom getting pushed would've had her head hit the bed or the bedframe's corner after she pushed her. But then the next scene it looks as if she was pushed onto the futon from the end of the bed...
@@TheBeastr Piccolo: DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODGE
@Ahmed Noseir ultra instinct be all like
Now all I can think about is that scene with the ultra instinct theme.
I love how even though she was still bitter at her daughter that she still cared for her child's safety. Yeah sure the mother was still horrible for what she did, but you cannot deny that she still had mother instincts to make sure koutoura didn't go alone at night. All in all she was at least still protecting her daughter.
darkyami12141 Simple logic doesn’t justify her actions her being a decent guest does not make up for her mistakes as a mother this is a woman that abandoned her child because she couldn’t get past her own issues and after one little peptalk if you’re on the path to recovery I’m sorry that’s nonsensical even for this kind of C level show
Did you remember when she threw the glass at the girl in the past so inside the glass is alchohal so it made the mother get mad easely the mother is drunk thats your awnswer
@@dogwonders1202 She let Koutoura to her dad not at some random places, even then she was thinking about Koutoura well being.
@@overlordshiina sry but no... she just threw hs problems to someone else, that dont means that she care abaut kotora (sry for my bad english)
This is a lot to read, but the information given, I shall respect that
me=im not crying...i just have something in my eyes
pal=whaats in you eyes?
me=TTTEEEAAAAAARRRRRRRRRSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Undertale...👌💖
"OKAA-SAMA NO BAKAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!"
"Kono baka musume!"
"Kono baka oya!"
Me: *laughs uncontrollably*
Analysis begin :
1:08 indicates that her mother still have sense of protection for her
5:48 a very cute moment, it'll make you smile while drinking your own tears
Analysis from a 4 year old maybe.
wait we can drink water from our eyes 😨😨😨😨?
@@mousysaint9143 I'm so sorry if your tiny little brain can't comprehend a simple sentence I constructed. I'll do better next time to simplify it for you, maybe beneath kindergarten level. Maybe
@@竹林-n7p your attempts at making insults are hilariously bad and ironic. Who knew people could get so attached to such a garbage anime.
@@mousysaint9143 I don't know why you're still replying and trying so hard to counter my 'insults' but just try to understand that every reply you make sounds like a child struggling to survive in the Internet. And I didn't even start this farce because of how I'm attached to this anime. It's your child-like attitude that pisses people off. Try to remember that when you turn into an adult someday, all right?
At 3:04 I was thinking
"Payback"
I noticed that as well: how the shot is set up almost parallel to when her mother literally pushed Kotoura away all those years ago, as this was the turning point where Kotoura finally decided to stand up for herself.
@@Cure_Hana KARMA!
@Alice Rose 9000 Wonderland Please
..it wasnt her fault. it was kotouras fathers fault not koutoruas mother.
@@hollowsoloz It was both the parent's fault
I thought it was gonna be a lesbo scene
You can't change the fact that she still abandoned her child, its unforgivable
Time heals a lot of things even things we might think are irreparable.
Yeah but you gotta be empathetic your husband you trusted cheated on you and you found out through ur daughters telepathy. It was more of an in the momment of a cluster of emotions she felt Pain, Betrayal, denial, sorrow and Hatred. At that momment defiantly didn't mean whatbshe said it was a bust of emotion but she couldn't handle the mental strain of living with the man who cheated on her. Urnm right she shouldn't have elft her child behind period or blamed her in any means. But because she said those things to her daughter she felt guilt and self pity to point assumednm for long whilemit was better she didn't have her around. And she regretted the way she left things for so long.
But at the end of the day if her daughter needs her or is in danger she'll defiantly take action. It may seek unforgivable form the childs perspective but from what she saw and felt in her moms dream she knew it was so much mor complicated underneath it all.
@@Adam-wy7mj All for sympathizing with her side of the problem and giving forgiveness to those who earnestly seek it but her husband left well before she did. I'm sure it was a contributing factor to her emotions and decision then but it was not a heat of the moment cause of her actions.
It's not unforgivable...many children learn to forgive their parents for abandoning them. Sure at first there are feelings such as hatred, denial, confusion, regret, horror, sadness, and etc. but they soon learn that it was for their own good. Sometimes a parent can't handle having a child or just doesn't love them, or the parent is forced to leave them because of issues that they couldn't control, some leave because they are alcoholics and they want to try to stop for their child, some are just plain alcoholics and can't stop, and some weren't strong enough to take on the role. Many parents left their kids for selfish and selfless reasons. You're right though you can't change the fact that the child was abandoned...but we should grateful that the parents left before it got to the point of neglect or abuse just because the parent couldn't control him/herself.
Hanebado mom:
finally a worthy opponent, our battle shall be legendary
I remember when i was watching this scene, I laughed waay too hard when Kotoura ducked her mom's slap XD
Yea me too and loved what happens next when she pushed her, that was karma right there :)
It was nice to see her bring out all her emotion that she was holding from all those years
samzn lmao
Rey Chan Personally, I would've pushed her to the floor instead of the bed. Or down a flight of stairs...
this is what happens to your daughter if you marry a girl that look like hikigaya hachiman.
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This comment is gold. I lol'd WAY to hard.
+Amos Sakai God dammit man hikki would never do that sort of think, come on XD.
+Amos Sakai The return of Eightman!! xD
***** You have to watch Oregairu to understand (the main character is Hikkigaya Hachiman).
In my opinion:
Apologizing and saying you’re weak is one thing, but it still doesn’t excuse the fact that you shouldn’t have left your child. You should stick with them through thick and thin no matter what she has or do. It’s called supportive.
Life doesn’t give second chances. She blew her one chance at being a mother, she won’t get another and shouldn’t. And her sob story gains her no sympathy from me.
@@theodorecarter6601 Being a devil's advocate here now, I think it's fairly reasoned out how she ended up abandoning Kotoura.
Imagine being cheated with by your husband and the info came from your child who you just discovered has that supernatural power right then and there. It would've been an action done as a result of all that combined, and it's clear she does regret leaving her. Along the way, she might've just thought that at that point, Kotoura would be better off without her and thus she felt the need to take on that cold shell that is obviously just there as a cover as seen in the end here.
@@RebelTheArtGal I’m sure Kotoura’s gramps would understand if he hears it, which he undoubtedly has. NOT!! Judging by his reaction at the end, he doesn’t seem to have forgiven his daughter for abandoning Kotoura, which is a very realistic outcome. So yeah, her actions were wrong no matter what side of the story you hear.
@@RebelTheArtGal well then hate the dude who cheated and lash out at HIM, the kid did nothing wrong, if anything she did her mother a favor by telling her. She would’ve found out eventually anyway and the would’ve gotten pissed at her daughter for not telling right away if she kept quiet then.
A lot of people say to put yourself in their shoes and maybe you’ll understand, but that’s the thing, I did put myself in her shoes and I STILL wouldn’t have done what she did, ESPECIALLY to a kid who doesn’t even fully comprehend the situation, sure I’d be sad and irritated but not at everything that would be in way
@@theodorecarter6601 "life doesnt give second chance", its sad how this is basically cancel culture at its finest, yes, kotoura mom did something terribly wrong, but thats in the past, let me be clear here, what she did is undoubtedly unforgivable, but, she still can deserve a second chance, its up to the person to work towards that and show they gained it or deserved it, what you did in the past, is in the past, there is no way to change that, but you can still ammend it, read well, ammend, not fix or turn back to how it was, thats the point on this scene, she refalls in her self destructive behaviours during it, but at the end, one can see she is taking the steps to improve even if a bit as a start, thats the point, things cant go back to how theyy are and are different, seen with kotoura noting the food is different to how she asked for it or how she remembers it, but its a connection that she hasnt lost and can be changed from sour to bittersweet if at all
She cry because the food was bad and overcooked.
Everyone needs good food.
It's all just a nightmare especially gordon ramsay
maybe she was lying because she maybe noticed onions
My soft egg is definitely better than kumiko's
Like pizza!
#everyoneneedsgoodfood
At first I hated the mother now I understand what was going on.
I still hate the mother.
Her daughter could've committed suicide because of her if she wasn't as strong as she is
Same here
@@lamcetots9677
What stuff am I making up...? And what does it matter if this won't happen in my life? I can't have an opinion on what someone did to another person? The mother should be forgiven, I'm just saying the whole situation was messed up and I'm still irritated with the mom
@@lamcetots9677 So are you like eleven or an idiot? Or both?
@@lamcetots9677 You must be lived a happy family to not understand what is going on. Good for you
06:01 The feels hit me so hard when her eyes changed.
Why is everyone mad at her mother???
Shouldn't you be mad at her father?
I mean, he left her too and all....
they are terrible parents, no matter how touching this scene is, i still hate her mother so much, saying to your kid that you wish they never born is so unforgivable,,,
Neko Nyahoi its The same with me but my mother isn't Back yet. I want to say my mother what i didn't say to her
I was so mad at the mom because she'd wish she never gave birth to her daughter and the daughter was trying to say sorry that she reads people's minds, but the mom pushed her back!!!...that hurts my hearts so bad and I was so happy that the mom got pushed back because she deserved it, but now she turned nice and I am happy for that! 🙂
FireMist26 i think so too
Neko Nyahoi we didn't see as much of the father.
This face at 6:04 was one of the most emotional scenes :(
I almost cried, and she loves her daughter so much
+Rosalba Sanchez me too
OMFG. IKR! I CAN'T BELIEVE SHE COULD MAKE THAT FACE AGAIN FROM ALL THOSE YEARS! *sobs*
Shirai ya :33
I can't stop crying 😢😭😭😭
I don’t think this woman can ever be truly forgiven for what she’s done. No matter her reason for doing it. But, with some effort and patience, they both can start on the road to healing.
They are still family after all. If she tried to reconcile, I don't see the reason to reject her. Sure she can't just suddenly act like a mother, but at least she can be there for her daughter.
03:12 Holy shit, I thought she was about to suffocate her mother. Those eyes...
Agreed. Watch sooo much horror anime
Same
Mom: I shouldn't give birth to you
Me: great cause I didn't even want to be born (walks to room)
Mom: why did I say that to her
That well happen if I hade that mean mother but at least I had a loved family not a mean family
Diana Xiong bro get some help
Lol I think he/she meant: "that would happen if I had a mean mother, but at least I had a loving family, and not a mean family".
My answer instead: Did I even give you permission to give life to me? *scoffs* Did I even want to live? Please~ I never even want to live in this ugly world that is filled with generality of disgusting humans. *frowns* If God gave me a choice on where world to live.... I would've lived in KHR world where Tsuna will accept me..... Even if I am so violent and acts like a normal human..... It's hard to control the monster inside you.... That monster will swallow me someday.... I just want someone who will accept me for who I truly am and will not judge me... The one who will listen to my reasons and problems.... *smiles* I really wanted that but..... I have.... Very severe trust issues that I keep all people at my arms length..
Karla Castanares I'm a social person how dare you insult my people. Lol. You don't have to be personal with people to socialise silly.
Me: mom what's your biggest regret?
Mom: giving birth to you
Me: what?
3:11 when I first saw this scene I thought kotoura was gonna suffocate her mom lol
LOL SAME
Why am i replying to a 10 month old comment
@@LenterisTeron cuz Y E S
@@LenterisTeron cuz u are the ULTIMATE CRINGE LORD
dragon boi how dare you insult the general like this
SUPER DRAMATIC PILLOW FIGHT
Dropkick Queen yeah XD
Dropkick Queen only in anime
Eh hem. Moral of the story is : mama, I want my eggs over easy..
JK XDDdDdddddd
ua-cam.com/video/xtAfbJMqcc8/v-deo.html
This looked like an egg commercial
I just love how her mom's eyes went from souless eyes to sparkling happy eyes
I love how them yelling in rage at each other just devolves into pillow-fighting.
"You stupid daughter!"
"You stupid mother!"
Omg same! I was crying and laughing at the same time! so emotional! ;-;
xD
Ikr
+dapenguin2 Now that's a mother-daughter relationship I'm jealous of.
same thng happen with me and my cat XD
"I didn't understand what my mother was really feeling"
Um, no. Nothing in this world can ever excuse that woman for saying to her own child that she should have never been born.
Japan has some serious issues with these things. THERE IS *NO* EXCUSE!!
Her mother is also someone who have feelings, having experienced things and going in the wrong way her mother might had a mental breakdown at some point. You can watch the previous episodes when her mother brought haruka to the hospital, that time she is already suffering and on the edge.
When you break down over time, rash things are conveyed to others, even when the intent is in the completely different direction. If you were to watch the prologue (hard to watch...), then you can see her trying, failing, and withering already...
Sure it is not something very forgivable, if at all. But with all that pressure, one couldn’t really hold back...
Honestly, the father is the worst. He didn’t even try.
Shit this is some philosophical stuff
Thats Hot
I have not watch the series, but maybe she did not mean it
@@soniczth8534 She doesn't. If you look back at the beginning, you saw how motherly she was with Haruka. But when she finds out about her weird nature, her husband did fuck all to help which he's the blame for that. She went to every clinic and even to the point to have priest to perform an exorcism since she thought Haruka was possessed but to her dismay, nothing could be helped. Then on the day she abandoned her and saying that she shouldn't have given birth to her, she was torn apart because she knew it wasn't Haruka's fault that she had the ESP ability. She wanted Haruka to hate her and blame her for not being a good mother to her even though Haruka knows she did her best to help her but she was ashame for being pathetic in front of her daughter and that is why their relationship went so sour and sweet in the end.
Incredibly valuable life lesson here. Don't judge what is on the surface on how some actions affect people. Also a lesson that even that most heartless of people are never too far gone.
oh shit, oh shit, gotta do 100 push ups, run 10km and punch a wall to regain my manliness!
lol if you can do 100 pushups you're enough of a man. I can do like maybe 20 on a good day.
hey if you do 100 sit-ups you can become saitama
+thegreatcanadiangamer true and turn bald
+Badassromeo9 worth it dude
but you were never manly
All aboard the feel train. Choo Choo. Next stop Feelville.
OMFG LET ME HOP IN. I ALREADY HAVE A MOUNTAIN OF TISSUES UESED AND MY TEARS ARE NON STOP RN. ;◡; 💔💔💔💔
Passengers,
BRACE FOR IMPACT.
+random girl my tissues are used for a different reason.
NothingYT GTFO.
wait let me in!
me: watching this clip
inside me: "don't cry!!! hold back your tears!!! man don't cry!!! tough yourself up man!!!"
Is it just me or Kotoura san's mother looks like sasuke's mother 😓😓
SHIT
U RIGHT
Ikr
Edgardo Allan Capuno Nah
She looks like Mikoto but has the cold, hateful eyes of Fugaku.
Yup it just you!
6:03 Omg I love how her eyes change back to their original nice selves!
I just love this part "Mama I want my eggs over easy..." It gets me every time 😭😭
The mother was suffering as well... just like Kotoura was..
That's true
And that justifies treating your daughter like shit?
But the one who was hurt the most was kotoura san. She was just a little girl when this shit has happened, while her mother is a grown up. When she and her daughter was suffering she should have just comforted her rather than letting her own father comfort her own daughter. Clearly she cant win mother of the year award... But if I was the daughter it will take years to forgive my mother. The mother hurt her daughter more than her classmates did... plus the "I wish you were never born" like... really nigga? Did you have to add that up? Im sorry im just letting all of my emotions out
*IlShadoWll IlGaLll* Lol bro chill xD
Kumiko did regret for abandoning Haruka and is trying to fix their relationship. Between the two, Haruka suffers the consequences the most
Not even kidding this was one of the most tear jerking scenes i have watched to date
I feel her so much but in my fathers shoes of course Im 14 at the moment i grew up knowing nothing but drugs and alcohol my parents would do this stuff often but as a child how was i post to notice but when i turned 9 my mom passed away of alcohol abuse and that moment on my dad got worse with it and i started to realize what was going on and even tried stopping it but when i did he would tell me things he shouldnt have but when i turned 13 he walked out on me and I thought I had nothing and no one but one day I heard him over talking about how he was so sorry and never meant for any of this to happen and wish he could take bk everything he ever did and started crying that moment has scared me cause at that moment I realized he was a single parent trying to his best and lost one of the most important things in his world and didnt know what to do and guys all I'm saying is these things can really ruin a persons life and don't ever do it cause you have no clue what will happen my childhood has made me the compassionate,loving,caring,funny,positive person I am today and I will never allow my child to have the life I did cause every child deserves the best no matter how mean they are their kids we was them once AMD everyone makes mistakes and every mistake can be fixed😁😊
Whaaaaaa!!!!! 😭😭😭😭😭😭
I wish I could give you a hug rn
PJ Balino *gives hug* thanks for taking time to read my life story hope you have a amazing day just like you!😊
Sometimes I'm to lazy to even read, but I bet my soul that you had an awful life in the past
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that ending was bs. after leaving her for years, and causing her all that trauma, they're fine after a pillow fight? nah fam lol
She has the ability to read minds. For the first time she realized that her mom never hated her and suffered trauma of her own. Also she is more or less out of the trauma at this point.
jack90054 true. but even so it just seems too quick
Hinata Hyuga true.they couldve sacrificed a filler ep for this big reunion
Thanks that I am not the only one. Also there are things that cannot be forgiven. For example, I would never forgive my father that he left my mom and me.
if your father left you and your mom caus he's a wanted men from gods know what trafic you would forgive him
This scene left me sobbing...
SAME. I NEVER CRIED SO HARD IN MY LIFE! THE TEARS WON'T STOP! 💔💔💔💔💔;-;
Wow.......Enough to make the great Titania Erza cry,hunh?
The first episode was so sad man I hated the mother so much after that then this scene made me feel something else.
Those beautiful eyes are back!@6:04
I almost cried at this scene, I'm happy that she loved her daughter no matter what 😭
IKR! I THOUGHT COULD NEVER SMILE LIKE THAT! ;-;
I WAS SO HAPPY WHEN THE MOM GOT PUSHED SO HARD!!!
Edit: She...she turned nice again.. beautiful 😭
I love how they changed her mom eyes at 6:01 so she look more caring in are point of view
The only Character who need to be blame is Kotoura F*cking Dad
5 years after I write this comment and I see alot of people here miss my point by 100 miles
The reason why I blame the father back than is that he doesn't spend time and try to fix the problem with her mother.
If he had the time to talk and solve the problem with the mother first, the woman will not cheat in the first place.
Did I excused the mother behavior? Hell nah, but all of this happen because of the father actions
Really, because I don't see the father turning up unannounced at the victims house to CONTINUE abusing them. If you're going to be a trashfire of a human being, the least you can do is keep away from your victim instead of re-opening the old wounds you inflicted.
Krljavi Dzo I mean she/he’s not wrong if he didn’t have a affair with that lady they wouldn’t have broken up but even if he didn’t that wouldn’t stop the bullies at school and her mother so it’s partially his fault
His fault the marriage ended at best, but if it was just a parental breakup it wouldn't be nearly the same kind of problem. Having your marriage end doesn't make you abuse your child. Simple as :p
Felice Dimensions yes I mean he didn’t cheat on her
dont forget, she was cheating on him too lmao
my eyes didn't cry but my heart cry :'(l
Same here. Fuck.
Yea it was just water in my eyes not tears
:'(l
omar sameh SAME
5:05 how to prove that the mother truly loved her daughter since the very beginning. She may not had much screen time but there was hidden reason why she was in opening and not her husband. 6:00 Her motherly side is showing
Sparky 111000 She was probably too shy to admit her feelings
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@@Nofelas He's snitching on his fellow scps
I'm sure I'm going to get a lot of hate for this--
I really wanted to like this show and support it, I really did, but this brought way too many memories from my past family. The way they ended it really just gave the impression that the abusers deserve sympathy too. I believe that adults should take responsibility for their actions, Haruka's mother, my parents, and even myself. This ending really leaves the audience to view abusers differently, to make them think the abusee did something wrong for not understanding the abuser. I don't and never want to understand why my parents abused me as a child, it has left so many traumatized moments in my life and to think that this shows reasoning is I was in the wrong because I didn't understand, really doesn't settle well with me. If someone is abusing you, you have every right to express your pain, don't sympathize with their reasoning. No one has the right to abuse someone.
I know, right
The writing in this whole scene is piss-poor, and it promotes one of the most insane and horrible messages in anime freaking history
Trash No, it's not. Dont think that because it happened this way for you, it will for everybody.
Haruka's mother has made some progress and regrets what she did to her daughter. I get it, you identified yourself in haruka, but this show wasn't made to tell your story, it was made to tell Haruka's.
It’s Haruka’s Character. She tends to blame herself for everything, and she always forgives others (Moritani, the detective) It’s how she lives her life. It’s her, not you.
Just an anime
Get over it
I don't disagree. However... I identify myself with Haruka a lot including her situation and her mom. Honestly, this scene made me laugh a little because almost the exact same thing happened, minus the pillows (which would have hurt less) I learned a lot since things got worst and I was forced to leave. But... Because of what I learned, how she became this way, why she became like this, and how everything was connected... I don't blame this scene too much... you don't have to forgive them and everyone's situation is different. I haven't forgiven her... her scars are too deep, but I finally saw her own... and that was something that actually brought us back together. We are both helping each other move on... she apologizes constantly... nothing can take it back... "Seek first to understand, than to be understood' I'm not saying understanding her to make it ok for what she did, but it made it easier to reach her and fix what damage we had. That's what I get from this scene. We both voiced our frustration and after it was said... it seemed pretty dumb on both of us... then we laughed at our own misery... heh even the part in choice of men. Even now, I'm finding connections to my Dad after he wasn't in my life... understanding them and finding connections, doesn't right wrongs, but it can smooth the future and patch a hole in the path. It's how you want to live and see it, this is how I see it and my experience. Some really don't deserve it, but I also know I can't judge for I'm not God. Only He sees what my family has done and how they lived when I wasn't there. I still hurt from my past too, but... I'm glad I was given a chance to rekindle something with my folks.
Such casual art for such a dramatic story... x.x
I feel like this is the only few animes where abandonment was handled pretty well. I mean heck, most mothers leave their child for stupid reasons in most animes (like in a certain anime where said mom left her child for not being good at a certain sport she was passionate about) but here, you understand why Kotoura's mother left. She didn't have the mental capacity to keep going, she felt herself going insane and left like she couldn't do a better job for her child anymore. Does it justify her leaving her child and giving her trauma of abandonment, *NO.* But you understand why she did it. It made her character pretty fleshed out and human, she made mistakes and she's definitely flawed however... Although she's no hero, she's no villain either.
**dodges mom's hit**
me:OH!! O.... OOOH!!!
**Pushes her to the bed**
me: OHHHHHH!! OHHH SHIIIIIT!!!
**Begins hitting her with the pillow**
(multiple hit marker sounds)
me: OH MAH GAWWD!!! MOM GET THE CAMERA OSHI- OHHH OOOH OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
LoL.
Mum can't get the camera caues she is being beaten on a bed :P
Sonikku Yoshi lol
+Purple Insect (im a moron) You thought that? Man I was thinking something else. Was expecting a pillow fight.
I literally started screaming OHHHHHHHH out loud and then I realized its 1:48 am and my brothers are trying to sleep
3:16 no... not the pillow
take my chainsaw that's more effective
cute melon 3:16 did you just say that "stone cold stunner"
WOW YOUR GIING TO GIVE A CHILD A CHAINSAW YOU WOULD BE A BAD PARENT IF YOU DID THAT XD XD XD XD
My favourite scene. I love Kotoura.
I can watch this 1000 times and always cry
That's what she said...
Let's get one thing straight, Kumiko didn't "just give up" on Haruka, she tried everything in order to know what was wrong with her, doctors, and priests. Even if she left she regret having to become a bad person and leave her. Haruka forgave her so fast because she wanted to have happy times with her mother again because Haruka isn't one to hold a grudge. At least Kumiko tried to make up, even if it was in an assholish way, but you can't just act like everything is normal either, so the way she went about it was right. As time goes on she can return to her old ways. And hey, the light in her eyes returned! Also the dad didn't even try to do anything from the start, and I would tell my child i didnt love her if i didnt want her to forgive me, but Haruka is too nice
WTF... YALL I HAD TO READ ALL THAT TO UNDERSTAN.. WA JESUS
yep
This is my favourite scene since:
1. Pillow Fight!
2. Mother is happy again!
3. SLEEP AND HUG WITH MOTHER!!!
4. CUTENESS OVERLOAD!!!!!!!!
i’m serious bruh the families back together!
Some of you guys might be missing the entire point of the resolution.
I don't think the anime really is talking about excuses and trying to preach about how it's okay to allow abusive people into your life, but I think it's more talking about growing past the torment and forgiving, understanding what other people are feeling and despite not being an excuse that anyone can grow past the abuse they grew with. It's about letting go, because unlike Kotoura we don't truly know what the other person may be feeling. Nobody's perfect and there's not always a redemption, but there's always a new start. Kotoura's mother was abusive and definitely a cheating liar, but she admitted her faults and weakness. The show doesn't say she was a good mother or even excuses it. But Kotoura's also mature enough to see what she was truly feeling and forgive her mother for being such a way. There's no redemption arc for her mother, there's no rekindling, there's no "I'm gonna be there for you from now on" or "I'll do better". Her mother makes food for her and leaves without a word as a form of possibly saying "I love you and I'm sorry" without really saying it, because some people are too weak to fully apologize. Even if not, it could just be her own way to start a new beginning. And Kotoura accepts the food, saying she's also willing to start something new. It's realistic. It doesn't push anything. Kotoura has friends already and came out of her shell, but the thing that hurt her in the beginning was the fact that her mother was a bad mother. Despite growing past some of that, it still hurt her. And she finally opened up about it to her. She finally aired out her grievances. But in accepting her mother's food after an argument and a fight, finally letting everything out, she can finally begin the process of moving past the very thing that hurt her in the first place.
Before anyone uses their personal stories as a means of being walking proof to dispute, I've been through it too. And I forgave all my abusers. Nobody's perfect and I definitely shut myself out as well as being someone else's thorn on the side. Nobody's perfect. But I imagine that some people make bad decisions and end up regretting it. Some people are weak and take it out on others. It's not an excuse, but you've also done crappy things to people and caused them damage whether you realize it or not. You're well in your right to believe that cutting people off is the right thing to do, but in reality, we either move past it through cutting ties and burning bridges, forgiveness and forgetting or not forgetting. But the anime is pushing towards the forgiveness side and isn't wrong for doing so. There's no definitive right answer but everyone has their own healing process. The fact of it all is that if you don't move past it, it will hurt forever until there's a form of closure. And staying in your shell is not the right one.
😢😭 soo sad/Beautiful i love this mother and daughter bond at the end....
6:03 the music her eyes ahhhhh 😭👍”soo..Mhhh.. good”
I need a season two
Mika ritsu we all do
Same
Alice Rose 9000 Wonderland When was this anime made and who was the creator?
she is undeserving of such a child. who forgives her after years of abuse? Jesus
Daniel Slone the dad made things worse
The dad didn't intrude on her home and openly continue to abuse her while she was being nice, insult her attempts to heal, and then lash out when she didn't take it. The dad might be a gigantic asshole, but the mother is a knowing and willing abuser who just got forgiven with not only zero effort, but while actually actively continuing to demean and hurt the victim.
Daniel Slone you answer your own question
Alpha Wolf lol best response
Jesus Indeed
_No matter how many times I watch this, I always end up crying._
Honestly kotoura is WAY too kind for this world, too pure, she must be protected.
Tsundere Mother.
Lygar X Yes xD Baka !
TSUNDERE
ˇ"It'not like i wanted to give birth to you or anything BAKA !!
BOTH OF.THEM ARE TSUNDERE!!!!
her mom is cute and charming tbh and hot too i like her unique personality. u don't see women frown like her lol
This will always be my favorite scene from this anime.
I am a cold bastard...I have not shed a tear....No sirreee....I have not....I blame the polluted air...makes my eyes watery.....I blame my feels T_T
I actually didn't cry :I
@@broncored same
Hahhahhahahhahah😂😂😂😂😂😂😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆
No, I only felt anger
So my friend told me to watch this without crying and he would give me 100 dollars!!! I lost 100 dollars that day....
3:16 Me: *PILLOW FIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!*
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I would not have forgiven her that easily if I was her. I would've yelled and cussed the mom out.
Me 2 I would have swore and slapped that face of the nother
If that happened to me I'd slap her until my hand gets tired. You don't just abandon a child and say you wish they were never born.
My people.
What?
+jenna milligan I completely agree. Man, I know there are parents out there who're like her and worse, but even seeing this happen in a 2D world still vexes me. I know I would've punched the living daylights out of her (cause slap sounds way less painful than slap).
I cried like a baby during this scene. Especially at the end when Haruka found out how her mom was really feeling about the past. It honestly tears me apart to know how hard it was for Haruka to live her life alone and how hard it was for her mother to leave her and live knowing that she can't be there for her daughter when she needs her most 😞
I DIDNT KNOW ANIME COULD MAKE YOU CRY 😭😭😢😢
ali_d19 haha, you fool
I could tell you don't watch alot of anime...Lol
Those sad anime made me tear up 😢
when i watched this it was after watching school days. i was half expecting this to end with a nice boat specially because of the serial assaulter / killer arc and also because the one who suggested that I watch this also recomended that I watch school days.
That's not a very good friend...(or he wants to troll you)
I couldnt stay mad at her mom after this scene. Yes what she did was incredibly horrible but I guess she just wanted to make Kotoura hated her so Kotoura could move on without her. Like the mom said, with her state that time she couldnt help Kotoura. She was depressed (from trying to get help for Kotoura countless times and the husband didnt even care one bit) and she turned to be an alcoholic and a cheater too when she found out the husband had an affair behind her
Also, the worst person here should be her dad. He had never lend a help when Kotoura's mom asked for it many times and in the end Kotoura's mom was the person had to leave her to the grandpa. So... the dad must had left them both long ago... 🤔
The mom abandons her daughter (in a needlessly heartless and cruel way mind you), shows up again unannounced, begins ordering her to make her dinner, blatantly insults her, initially refuses to take responsibility for her actions and was straight up about to slap her daughter in the face because she stood up to her.
And we are expected to feel bad her because "she felt REALLY sad when she abandoned her daughter!" Honestly, just an awful character and an awful message overall. It doesn't matter what you feel on the inside, it is your actions that should define who you are. The fact that Kotoura feels guilty that she didn't consider her mom's feelings when she was in KINDERGARTEN is flat-out ridiculous. I don't care if the mom had a shitty life after the divorce, if we can use our own hardships to justify our terrible actions, then no one should feel bad about Hitler since his life sucked too.
@@kingrocky7519 ^^^ THIS!!! IS TOO ACCURATE!
Holy Jesus when I find these my respect just goes blowing out
@@kingrocky7519 hey, I agree with you from the most part but ffs they're not trying to justify her actions ( well, I don't ) it's still wrong a horrible, however she never intended to be that way. like depression can make people push people away from them, specially their loved ones. the husband IS the evil guy here for just straight up leaving the two, unlike the mom who wants to see her daughter again and see how was she doing. Due to her problems she has a hard time being soft to the person she just hurt badly. At least she still shows some love to her daughter out of secret.
@@wishiirasbluegarden3423 Yeah, but I still don't buy it. Seriously, after watching something like BoJack Horseman, a show that has a similarly depressed character whose actions negatively affect those around him, I have less sympathy for shows that think depression is an excuse for being a bad person. Sure, the husband sucks and was arguably way worse, but that in no way excuses the mother for abandoning her daughter. They may not be justifying her actions, but they certainly are giving her an unrealistic amount of leniency, despite her basically causing Kotoura just as much pain as her father for most of her life.
You don't get to be an awful person to someone for most of their life, show up randomly one day to say that you love them, and act as though all the pain is gone. That isn't how the world works, and is honestly the textbook definition of an abusive relationship. I cannot get over Kotoura crying and feeling guilty about not understanding why her mom abandoned her, where there was no good reason for her to do so. And if the reason was that she felt she couldn't be a good mother (which in my opinion is just selfish reasoning to avoid your responsibilities), then she doesn't get to come back and expect her daughter to love her again after ONE fight.
If you wanna feel bad about yourself, fine, no one is stopping you. But if those feelings start negatively affecting others, no one needs to adjust themselves to feel bad for you. That's just my opinion.
Right, I have quite a few issues with this scene, and I'm not the only one. Warning: It's going to be a long one.
First, the mother lets herself into Kotoura's house and acts like she has a God given right to be there and acts as if she owns the place, when she is lucky her daughter even lets her within five miles of her.
Instead of 'hello' and other pleasantries, she spends the majority of the time throwing insults and complaints at her daughter, who is nothing but gracious and walks on eggshells around her mother the entire time, and quite frankly who can blame her? The fact that she even lets Kumiko stay is saint-like mercy in itself. Considering everything that has gone on, the least Kumiko could do was to try and behave kindly to her daughter, even if she finds it difficult.
Kumiko then proceeds to demand refreshments (offering to come with her as a safeguard doesn't cover it - Kumiko could very well go by herself, her daughter just got back home from being out. Besides which, Kotoura owes her nothing. I suspect the strong filial duty of Japanese and Asian societies in general is driving her actions more than what one would expect from a girl towards her abusive mother.
Then, expectedly, Kumiko gets drunk. Why her daughter, knowing full well what happens when her thoughtless mother gets access to the bottle, allowed her to do this I put down to her frankly piteous desire to please the mother most daughters would have kicked out the door long ago.
Expectedly, Kumiko gets drunk, and, expectedly, things go sour. Kumiko has the audacity and heartlessness to get angry at her daughter (who has let her stay, bought her food, bowed to her at every turn) and mock her for her 'lies' about having any friends. Any mother with a shred of self-reflection and compassion, feeling guilty for her past actions, would never let these words pass her lips - drunk or otherwise. She would also be GLAD that her daughter has finally found happiness - happiness she and her husband (but mostly her) helped destroy. She is clearly projecting her own bitterness onto Kotoura.
Instead of feeling remorse for having spoken this way after being rightly called out by her daughter, Kumiko gets angry, and accuses Kotoura - of all things - of being selfish, when all this time Kotoura has done nothing but think about her mother and do right by her. Kotoura was abandoned by the one person who should have stuck by her through everything, left to be further emotionally destroyed and almost left catatonic and bereft of happiness. And Kumiko has the audacity to try and turn the tables and make her feel guilty for inadvertently hurting others due to a power she didn't understand, let alone know how to control? Kotoura hurt without meaning to, Kumiko hurt knowing full well what their impact would mean.
Kumiko's hypocrisy goes further when she accuses her own daughter of having bad taste in men, glossing over the fact that Kotoura's man actually loves her, whereas Kumiko's relationships are an embarrassment. Kumiko tries to pull 'I'm your mother, you can't talk to me like that! bull. She isn't repentant, she hasn't learned.
Then once again Kumiko puts her hand on her daughter and attempts to hit her. Thankfully, Kotoura stops it by pushing her mother onto the bed - reminiscent of the time when Kumiko did the same when she abandoned her daughter to her misery.
Then the whole thing devolves into a pillow fight, which many have taken to be partly humorous, and it is played as such, which I find really, really stupid. It kills the drama and reduces what could have been a verbal beat-down from daughter to mother - again reminiscent of the time Kumiko abandoned her - into play-fighting. It's compounded by cutting AWAY from the fight to some guy walking his dog outside hearing the commotion. Wow. What could have been a reality-check for the bitch of a mother who still cannot seem to conceive any suffering besides her own, let alone her own daughter, is little more than a semi-light-hearted pillow fight.
When the fight is over, Kumiko still reveals her tactlessness and conveniently selective memory, not recalling the time when she told her daughter to shut up about the thoughts she hears, putting her daughter in potential danger in the event she hears something like what she heard from Tsuyama. Kumiko still has the affront to compare her bad taste in men with that of her daughter - something Kotoura rightly points out. Kotoura's pervy man loves her and cares for her (and is her own age/roughly), while Tsuyama is an ADULT MAN perving on a child. Kumiko then wants to drink some more. Does this stupid alcoholic bitch never learn?
Oh, and the icing on the cake! Kumiko orders Kotoura to clean up the mess they JOINTLY made during their spat. When Kotoura (rightly) tells her that she should help clean up the mess she jointly caused, Kumiko mentions the promise a young, desperate Kotoura made when her mother was about to leave about doing the cooking and the cleaning - you know, right before Kumiko pushed her away and told her she wished Kotoura had never been born and abandoned her! And THEN Kotoura reacts in a sort of exasperated 'Oh mother!' way, not 'Oh yeah, that was right before you pushed me, wished I was never born and abandoned me to my misery! Get out of my house, you selfish, alcoholic, thoughtless bitch! I'll dance on your grave!'
And then Kotoura OBEYS HER. She literally just enabled her mother's thoughtlessness, treated a reminder of the worst day of her life (one of many) as an embarrassing 'Oh mother dear' moment, and reset their dynamic of dutiful, passive daughter and (bitch) abusive mother right back to the way the scene began in the space of a few seconds. And she does the cleaning up while the bitch sleeps (in what is the most unlikely sleeping position I've ever seen).
Oh, but it's all alright because poor Kumiko cried and felt BAD. Note the bitch didn't have the guts to apologise outright to her daughter's face and confront every painful thing that her daughter went through before and after her abandoned her daughter. Kotoura sees her mother's tears, and then FEELS BAD HERSELF for not seeing this at the time, mental scarring and crushing agony be damned. What Kotoura went through that day is now placed under that of her selfish, weak, bitch mother. How could any child be expected to understand or even care about what her mother was feeling at a time like that?
Remember, Kotoura's actions where that of an innocent child who couldn't understand her powers - Kumiko's were that of an adult with full control of her actions and the fate of her child. She CHOSE to roughly push her daughter to the floor. She CHOSE to tell her terrified, distraught daughter that it was all her fault and she didn't want anything to do with her. She CHOSE to tell her distraught daughter that wished she'd never been born, abandoning her to years of cruelty and misery, rather than at least explaining that she can't cope and that it was best she stay with her grandfather while she sought help. NOPE, I wish I never gave you life, I'm out of here! Have fun with your psychological trauma!
The tears she shed after the fact don't matter. Ever. At all. And that fact that this is what acts as the healing factor and gets Kotoura to snuggle next to her mother and secure a happy ending is madness to me. As far as I am concerned this scene should and could only exist as a bad ending where a daughter, desperate for love, excuses and dismisses all the pain she went through just for a scrap of it from a heartless, thoughtless bitch of a mother.
The kicker? When Kotoura wakes up, her mother isn't there to share the beloved breakfast meal with her daughter - she's gone! And the meal is bitter and overdone!! I'd laugh if it wasn't so pathetic and awful.
Filial duty wins out in the end, but I believe any daughter with a shred of self-worth and basis in reality would have kicked her into the dirt right after throwing back in her face every painful thing she went through pre and post abandonment - and a good, hard push to into the dirt for good measure!
Fuck Kumiko, she belongs in hell!
This comment gives me hope. Pretty depressing seeing all the other comments treating this scene as a happy revelation and instant redemption thing. I can only hope the people who think that way are really young and haven't experienced any remote whiff of abuse. Can you imagine what would happen if this anime was more self-aware and was working on trope deconstruction? The following episodes would have been utterly brutal. Urgh. Well yeah, a year later but thanks for making this comment exist :P
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Kristina Never have I ever agreed with a comment so much.
Preach.
Take all my YES!
I literally screamed at the screen for the entire scene. It's absolutely disgusting, and not in the good intended way.
It's pretty much the most unearned redemption arc in the history of fiction. It brought down an okay 7/10 show to the dumpster fire 2/10 in an instant for me.
Her mother has a cold glare in her eyes........
ikr;-; like is this how you look at your own daughter? ;-;💔💔 but in the end she really did love her daughter ;-;❤❤❤SUCH HEARTBREAK and such love ❤❤❤❤
+Marliana Buchanan I'd still tap that.
Marliana Buchanan But it changes which is what eventually got me 😭
Krypteian
Dude, don't ruin this for me.
Marliana Buchanan I believe it's from the alchohol and the bitterness, near the end, when Kotoura-San said "I want my eggs over-easy" brought the sweetness and love back to Kumiko's heart, that's just my theory though.
3:00
ALRIGHT PUNKS! Listen up!
RULE 1 of fight club, WE DON’T TALK ABOUT FIGHT CLUB!
RULE 2 of fight club, just FIGHT
RULE 3 of fight club, pillow fights only...
this scene always bring me to tears :'(
Them mum forgot how to cook eggs...XD
Aawww kotoura-san is trying so hard to bond with her mom but she’s acting all stingy
That's what she said
AHHH THE FEELS QAQ
Also I love how Kotoura forgives her easily, no matter how much pain her mother gave her, she didn't focus on the negative, pain, hatred, etc..., but focused on loving her mom back and her mom loving her back too! :D Kotoura is very kind and loving :D pls make season 2 of did :D
That's what she said...
It takes courage to apologize and it also takes courage to forgive
at least kotoura could get along with her mother again... i should learn it from her... even now i cant forgive my father.
Leo Andrei Brunestud I know right? my father didn't even bother taking care of me.
You really shouldn't. Real life isn't anime, and this clip honestly glazes over the fact the mother still knowingly and willingly salted the wounds she caused after she randomly re-entered her childs life. She doesn't deserve forgiveness. It is never the responsibility of the victim to forgive an abuser, and if they so choose to do so, the abuser needs to have changed, grown, and learned to own the mistakes they made, not just happily repeat them.
I have been waiting for 12 episodes for this to happen... the longest 12 episodes ever. But it was absolutely worth it... this had me in tears...
She should not be forgiven that easily. Kotoura's mom was inexcusable.
That's not necessarily true. While she was a mega bitch for leaving her, I can see why she did. She wanted to save Kotoura and raise her, but she physically couldn't take the pressure of being divorced and having a child who literally has no friends and can constantly read her mind. she wanted her to live without one more thing that could add pressure to her.
It was mostly the dad's fault. After all, his motto is:
"If there are problems in my life, I shall pass it to my loving wife."
Kat Ly That;s true as well
Emoji Piggie As a mother, none of those are good excuses at all honestly.
?? ? She regrets everything
I was laughing the whole time they started fighting lol!!! "Baka" "baka" lol😂😂😂 but later from that sleep talking onwards I started wailing off!!!😭😭😭😭
5:05 the face of a mother who literally lost her happiness. Which is why she's always sad with 0 shine in her eyes.
this anime is still brings me to tears...😥😥😥😢😢😢
...Sorry but i wish in real life forgiveness could be that easy.
mrmudzahedini i think , the system of forgiveness are vary from each cultures . At least her mother had tried several times to got her daugter's forgives , but she couldn't expresses it so easily ... You much watch the whole series to know her mother's way of life , not with your selfish kind of mind
mrmudzahedini oh now i'm understand , sorry . But honestly , I don't agree with you at the first before I read your reply . Yes , as a human isn't easy to forgives other who had make us suffer . But If they are conscious and regretted their acts , why won't we give them a try to get our forgives ?
mrmudzahedini In this series , I catch the moral message " think before you act something , or you'll regret it " at least in some occasion , her mother was regretted her acts that already changes her daughter . She try to communicates with her daughter and admitted her faults , but there are some factor that make her won't that easy to do it . In my culture there is a word says " how bad are your parents for you , they'll always be the best parents for you . Except your parents doesn't know how to be a human then they don't deserve to educate you , but once again , they give you body to live in this world . Think about it again " .
mrmudzahedini but seriously , if Kotoura never met the pervert man who will be her friend with others , her life will very gloomy
mrmudzahedini yeah , you 're right . I'm totally agree with you . Ecspecially in karma philosophy , cause I'm a Buddhist and I'm very rely on it , but once again we hope that that kind of things won't happen in the life .... we love peace , right?
I held out till the moment the mother's eyes turned from dull back to bright, that's when I started crying too.
The thumbnail tho 😂
"Why are you in my room"
The real Question is "HOW DID YOU GET INTO MY ROOM"