The Death Of Hipsters (the worst alt subculture??)
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- Опубліковано 29 січ 2023
- Are hipsters dead? I react to Jimmy The Giant's video about the death of hipsters, and give my thoughts on hipsters (the worst subculture in my opinion).
Jimmy The Giant's "The Death of the Hipster Subculture.." • The Death of the Hipst...
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yeah i pretty much agree with you but dont generalize everyone with a beard and who might try to eat healthy or a new enjoy a spicy ginger kombucha if there stomach hurts because i grew up extremely poor and also worked my ass off at a industrial brew tank fabrication facility building custom brew systems for the craft brewing industry(ironically)and have had plenty of character defining moments in my life and i remember some chump dump parts room helper boy with a brand new stock engine subaru that he spent a bunch of money on wheels and fancy brakes and racecar seats his parents probably bought him had the nerve to call me a hipster.people need to not generalize people so much because theres dull priveledged people everywhere not just bearded men.....and ive never not once had one of those long curly mustaches lol shit pissed me off
Nihilists ARE cry baby pussies, but nice video dude
The irony of Finn being elitist and trying to say he is not a hipster by saying, "I'm a hipster!" Is the most hipster thing ever.
Exactly.
The singularity
Wow. What Hipster broke your heart Finn?
Bruh, what?!!!
I unironically always get serious hipster vibes from Finn
Nothing beats that guy who filed a lawsuit on a magazine for using his picture in their article "how all hipsters look the same" only to find out it wasn't him in the picture. 🤣
Lol that is incredible
😁😅
I'm sure that wasn't a satire article at all
Damn that sounds like it’s out of the onion, if that’s true that is the most hilarious thing I’ve ever heard… why do I have a hard time believing that?
@@jeremysiron9622 it's true, was in a news report years ago, can probably still find it if you Google search
By the time I was 16, I was 6’5” and built like Clay Matthews. All I wanted to be was an emo or hipster, but they didn’t make girl jeans that fit my man body. I would cry myself to sleep about how Chad I was and how hard it was to protect my virginity
We all have our own cross to bear.
@@FinnMckentyPRMBA thank you, Finn. I know you can relate to the Tebow conundrum where you just want to run this Christian channel and Megan Fox keeps calling you
@@Augrillsyou must be a hipster bro 😂
Dude, I was like, "Wow, I agree. Hipsters can be so annoying". Then I realized I love craft beer, whiskey, vinyl, have a beard, own a fixed gear bike AND used to smoke American Spirits. God damn it. lmao
Well the only way out is through 🤔
*_First step to redemption is to shave the beard._*
Lol I feel you. As a 42 year old who was rocking the hipster aesthetic before it became THE hipster aesthetic, I hated being lumped into this category. I'm a blue collar guy who's done quite well for himself, all while actually caring for my appearance (my wife is eternally grateful for this), and a lot of my work peers don't get it. They're fine with dressing like slobs in their Carhartt gear or their athletic pants, and I just can't do that. Again, I'm blue collar, and my rough hands are a testament to that, but I refuse to dress in bibs and work boots outside of my job. I no longer rock the man bun, nor the waxed mustache, but I still like my flannel shirts and fitted pants lol.
You can still enjoy those things and not be a hipster. You like what you like, you're only a hipster if you have the hipster mentality of thinking that the things you like are better because they're less popular.
@@maynarddrivesfast804 don’t feel bad for presenting yourself nicely. So many dudes I know look like shit and refuse to take care of themselves and then constantly complain about how they can’t get a date. Keep doing you bro
Finn: “All of my life I didn’t want people to notice me”
(Becomes UA-cam blogger)
Way back in the early '10's my friend summed it up pretty well: "Liking obscure music doesn't make you a hipster, but being a dick about it does."
The scene kid to hipster pipeline makes me laugh so hard because it's so absolutely true lololol
People have called me a hipster for collecting albums and still making mix cassettes, but those are just things I've enjoyed doing since the 80's. Can't I just be old?
We live in a society lol
I’ll allow it. You are NOT a hipster. You are just old.
i dunno how ure a hipster by doing what u always did
Probably the most valuable contribution of the hipster era was moving society towards a more eclectic and open approach to music preferences, in terms of people being more willing to explore diverse genres and combine them in their playlists, as well as in live festivals.
which is ironic because a common stereotype of hipsters is that they only liked very specific indie music which sounded similar to the mainstream rock, electronic, rap and pop music they didn't like but sounded quirkier so they liked but once those artists and bands got big they didn't like them anymore because they were big
I'd say the bigger influence there was arguably technology. Streaming, digital distribution and online communities and resources have made it so easy for people to enjoy and explore a wide series of genres quickly and easily in a way that previous generations couldn't.
If you wanted to get into Death Metal in the 80's/90s you needed to find out the genre existed, go to shown and meet people / find a record store that sold that stuff and then put down actual money on tickets or records. It's not exactly super hard but you needed to put quite a bit in. In the 2000's all you needed was an internet connection and to eventually stumble onto it on limewire and from there it has only gotten easier.
Right! Eclectic & diverse! Like, my new favorite band is I Don't Know How But They Found Me, where it USED to be Saint Motel, and before that was Franz Ferdinand, and... wait. Goddammit.
Very true
I mean, shoegaze and elevator music isnt really that diverse
I feel like Hipsters didn't really die they just got absorbed into the greater Indie music scene which probably expains why your video on Indie music pretty much descibes Hipsters
I grew up poor with old crappy things but now I like even older things that were made to last and classically styled.
Love seeing your reactions bro!
Thank you for watching!
Have you thought about covering freeride MTB? Like red bull rampage which combines downhill MTB with slope style's crazy tricks.
@@tickandslug doubt it as this is a music centered channel
@@aliasfakename2267 I replied to Jimmy, he talks about sports and culture
No one hates hipsters more than other hipsters. It’s a snake eating it’s own tail.
Finn, every so often you really hit the nail on the head for me. "Im a weird guy and all iv ever wanted is to fit in with everyone else". Pretty much sums me up. I dont want to stand out, i just wana be normal.
This could become a new trend. Fitting in with everybody 😁
I agree, let’s all be normies.
SAME!!
I used to be like this throughout high school. All I wanted was to work on myself to fit in with others. As an adult, I've come to terms with some of my differences and quirks. That's not to say I can't improve, but I think it's a whole lot more healthy and interesting than trying to be normal. People should just learn to accept and be proud of themselves, no matter how boring or weird
18:57 The biggest mark of the hipster subculture was the denial of the label.
Most subcultures - You aren't punk/metal/hip-hop
Hipsters- I'm not a hipster
No one wanted to own up to being a hipster. I got into some of these trends mentioned in the video. ultimately its really not a big deal, but I remember how much of a perceived sting it was to call or be called a hipster.
Finn! I know exactly what happened to the hipsters! I lived that around that life in silverlake/ Echo park for years. They basically got married and moved out of the city and have kids .. They go to “family friendly” breweries. It’s still a pissing contest .. this time with kids and houses.
The part where "they became so popular they became what they hated" describes almost any subculture from the 70s onwards.
We can say what we want about the "hipsters", but they were the aesthetic force behind a very good decade (or, mid-decade, between 2005 and 2015 or so), and except for the music and the snobby attitude, it was a very good period.
In addition, this "non-conformity" however superficial it may have been, led many to create their own stores and distribution networks. Pretty DIY accutally.
Yeah, independent coffee shops and craft beers have provided so much variety. I love the results at least, just maybe not the pretense of hipsterism. :D
Hipsters could be what they were, and we think of their heyday in positive terms mostly because of decisions made at the Federal Reserve immediately after 9/11. A recession had been on the horizon for at least a year by then but the Bush admin, knowling that it was about to go onto a massive war called for economic and monetary policies to support that. This led to a consumption and debt bubble that lasted seven years, those crucial seven years between 2001 and 2008 when indie rock and hipsterism really thrived. Once that particular party was over the culture kept going for a few more years on sheer inertia but it was basically a dead man walking.
Without easy access to credit and a labor market that was overheated and fuelled by speculation, hipsterism couldn't have happened.
I´ve always felt the 2000s were a bit of a replay of the Roaring Twenties and the youth cultures reflect that.
Why was it “superficial.” No less superficial then scene kids, EMO’s. Videos like this are so limited and lame. Subs-cultures have existed since the 18th century around the world and Thanh god for them. Glad you said what you said here, as Finns videos are themselves very superficial, doesn’t ever look at it from a sociocultural pov.
@@thenewwavejoeshow Superficial from the point that, as Finn puts it, in the end their "nonconformity" was based on not being able to buy the things they wanted, and except for a couple of folk bands, they had nothing more to contribute than a network. commercial that allows retro consumption to be transformed into cool. Yes, that superficiality is similar to many "subcultures" of the new millennium, such as the EMOs, but in the case of the EMOs in particular, their punk roots led them to create their own aesthetic and imprint, although perhaps not as distinctive.
@@mazalblues not distinctive at all. All they did was combine goth and punk. By that time EMO reached 2010, hot topic had jumped on board and what started in the late 80’s as emocore had gone mainstream.
What killed Hipsters? The death of the Hipster coincided with the rise of White Claw. In 2015, you walk down the beverage aisle at the grocery store & it’s like 50% domestic macro, and 50% craft beer. Now it’s like 50% macro, 30% hard seltzer, and 20% craft beer. I love craft beer & you have to work harder to find it now, but the extra effort is worth it now that we no longer have everyone’s Spotify playlists loaded up full of The Lumineers & X Ambassadors type songs.
I think Finn got this one wrong. Hipsters weren't about being anti consumerism, it was being anti rich billionaires and millionaires. It was about supporting small businesses and supporting the community. Rag on craft beers, but they're supporting local businesses. Rag on the artisan coffee, but again, supporting local business. Vinyl shops, thrift shops, local butchers, tattoo artists, etc. It's all about supporting local vs buying from national brands
I agree. Anti mainstream. But we all know what happens when something not mainstream becomes huge right?
The big companies and the big money move in and it becomes mainstream.
But irony is a cornerstone of hipster culture, right?
Half of them move into lower income neighborhoods don’t even bother supporting the local businesses that were already there decades before they arrived.
I think the hipster really did some damage to chain restaurants. Which is good because the local eatery’s keep the money in the community. The crazy beer definitely jumped the shark. Any Joe Schmoe who bought at beer kit thought they could open a brewery. The cream has risen to the top and the ones who were actually good at it survived.
This guy (Finn) is just being a judgmental prick and making content out of it for ad revenue.
I have always tried to buy local. But I'm not a hipster. I'm a redneck. Lol
As a person who is weird as well, I absolutely agree, we weird people were trying to fit in or full blown accepted our weird and be completely weird to the point that it's off-putting. No in-between. The hipsters were normal people trying to be quirky, interesting, and a little bit weird.
"Be yourself, but not like that!"
You're not weird just neurodivergent.
@@bamafencer12 what is the difference? (I’m neurodivergent)
@@mayalansky whether or not you can hide it, probably.
@@bamafencer12 I've got ADHD but I'm also a little on the weird side.
To me, the worst thing about hipsters (and this was particularly true in the early to mid 00s) was the irony everything. Nothing sincere, an entire identity defined by sarcasm. I knew the culture was finally and fully dead when 7-11 starting making Mason jar slurpee cups.
Wait did 7-11 do that?!
The emo/scene kid to hipster bridge is too accurate 😂
I feel like Female Hipster fashion is best described as 'Zoey Dechanel-core'. Everyone of them look like her in one performance or another.
So many ex-scene girls adopted that look
I love it when he includes the Andy Biersack "here's the thing!" from that legendary speech 😂
That was too good 🤣😂🤣😂🤘🤘🤘🤘🎶🎵🎶
I'll never forget graduating from a rural high school and then going to live in Japan for a while, only to come back to the states mid 2011 and having no clue what tf "hipsters" and "dubstep" were. It was a bigger culture shock than living in a foreign country so different from my own. lol
Yeah I grew up the same and discovered them back in 2015. 🤣
@@te9591 aside from the earthquake, tsunami, and nuclear power plant meltdown, it was enjoyable!
@@SporkWieldingCanary I also did an abroad year in Japan through 2010 and 2011 (our program was one of the few if even only to stick it out through the events of March all the way to summer!) and the funny thing for me was, I knew the terms "hipster" and "dubstep" but when I came back it felt like they meant *completely* different things. Hipsters had gone from being a certain breed of Brooklyn art hoe to being a generalized urban aesthetic, and dubstep had gone from being a downtone London sub-sub-genre to a LA hardcore guy's new hyperactive sound. Wild time to be alive
@@gregorysteffensen3279 woooaaahhh, same with my program! You didn't happen to be in Kobe around March, did you?
@@SporkWieldingCanary we were just north of Nagoya, in the now defunct SYA program (they still do stuff in Europe but we were a pilot year for Japan) - hadn't heard of any other programs sticking it out in-country, genuinely glad to hear!!
While hipsters were annoying, woke worries me because a large portion of America is equating caring about civil rights with woke, and that's dangerous. They are two different things, but the most ignorant amongst us are conflating the two in a fashion that strengthens the fascist ideals gaining steam in the states. That said, hipster was also dangerous in its own way, gentrification being the most obvious example.
On another point, I love watching Finn struggle with his new loving approach to UA-cam. Great channel!
You should be more worried at Anti-SJw Anti-Woke. they became the new Sjw Woke.
Old but underrated comment. My thoughts exactly on the word “woke” and how it’s being used nowadays
You can tell I’m a non conformist because I shop at Urban Outfitters.
“I’m trying not to rant and scream because I want you guys to like me more…” you know exactly what you’re doing.
Shoplift at H&M, but yeah pretty much
Why do hipsters feel the need to gentrify Portland when they are literally living rent free in Finn Mckentys head?
The fact that I will watch a video in my recommended and then there's a Finn reaction a couple days later makes me realize I am your target audience to a fault.
I just realized I am his target audience too. I dont know if this channel has more adults or more teens/young ppl but me and other friend watch him and were in our early 20s
Same.
Same
I'd say it's more representative of the YT algos being scary good at their job.
Same! The last 3 he’s reacted to all showed up in my recommended a few days before he posted his videos reacting to them.
I really like the aesthetics of hipster culture. I like the style, my small coffee shop, I like art on the street, the acceptance of tatoo, I like the promotion of local brewery and artisans. Really I think it's of course hypocritical to call that movement anything anticapitalist, but I like the impact it had on culture.
About the point at the end regarding 'Artisanal shit' - I think the positive there that you're glossing over is that a lot of that stuff isn't coming from large conglomerates. Obviously there is a ton of 'hipster aligned' mass market shit at this point, but I still thing a huge thrust of that movement was to be conscious of buying locally sourced things from smaller businesses. While all that stuff is still consumption, I think it's fair to argue that it's a more positive form of it.
Of course you have to acknowledge the fact that only middle/upper class people are going to be able to do this, and because of that it won't end up having any kind of world changing effect. However, just like vegan/vegetarianism the propagation of these ideas into more mainstream culture does have a positive effect. It is good that people now are more thoughtful in general of keeping more money within their community rather than letting it be extracted by global scale corporations.
Finn: I'm going to be nicer this year.
One month later......
Finn: Everything about hipsters enrages me!
Hahaha! Your face turn lasted about as long as one of The Big Show's!
In fairness about gentrification, many people moved to low income areas because that's where they could afford the rent. Not like NYC is cheap. Also, we really need to blame the developers because they were the ones with the money to afford to buy up places and businesses.
It's funny that a video like this would come out right now because I restarted New Girl after like 10 years and I can't stop thinking about the era where every boring teenage girl who wanted to be unique modeled their entire personality on Zooey Deschanel.
There’s a pattern from my old friend group that were MySpace Emos in the 2000s. They were Hipster through the 2010s and now they are the minimalist vegan mediation etc.
It's almost like people should let people do whatever people want whether it's looks, tastes, ideas, or beliefs.
I can't remember which, but there was one cartoon character who summed up hipsters quite well:
"They don't know what they want - they only know what they don't want."
Ah man I’ve just realised I’m a hipster - top knot (used to have slicked back with an undercut…), vegan, skinny jeans with flannel shirts, usually have a beard but had a couple big moustaches, love IPA, love coffee. No fedora or vinyl though. And my bikes have multiple gears and freehubs 😂
Love this! In reality people had nothing to do with choosing to become hipster, more like they were just new wave of consumers that and the market insdustry gave them their own identity (bardbershops, bars, manly activities, adventure films) basically pushing 19 century aesthetics and western lifestyle.
Yeah, but wouldn’t you say that the hipster movement also consumed part of the emo/hardcore scene? I knew a fair share of people who stopped listening to screamo and started riding fixed gear bikes and listening to indie.
@@rhetttr0 yeah, thats 99% hardcore guys. but hey maybe its just natural evolution of a stereotypes. also wanna mention that hipster was not less widespread term in late 2000s in indie movement, Finn has a great video on those too.
Great video! One of my favorites, bro!
I lived in Vancouver from 98-2000. Hipster central before there were hipsters. I'll never forget the eyeroll my wife received when she ordered a Coke at a vegetarian restaurant.
Commercial Drive in the east end was becoming the cool place to live as it was cheap and had a lot of character. For example, I had my first Belgian Fries with mayonnaise there. A Yuppie we were with, while drinking her Chardonnay, mentioned how she wanted to move there.
"Steve Jobs hispstered himself to death" - There's an important lesson in this, children...
Nothing more hipster than hating hipsters.
@@ghost_mall in the 1990s they were making fun of a hipster doofus on seinfeld. i cant believe its still a thing
Man. I’ve begun to watch your videos just for the laughs. Your music content is great, but dude, you are just a funny dude
That comment about growing up with "crappy, old dirty things" really got to me Finn. I am kind of cheap with myself because I grew up poor, but there is no desire to own old garbage.
Some hipster friends have been highly critical of me buying my daughter an expensive American Girl Doll...and they can go f*** themselves.
Preach Finn..PREACH!
You don't get to unclaim hipster. The people assign your labels to you. It is what it is. Apparently I'm a black hipster metalhead and there ain't shit I can do about it 😭😂
I never thought of myself as a hipster, but a lot of stuff I genuinely liked fell within that demographic. So sometimes it’s not up to you whether you are one or not.
😂 cart leading the horse
lol same, today i learned Finn hates me
I think this is why this vidoe rubbs me the wrong way a bit and i am not even close to hipster. I get their are alot of pretensous hipsters but i don't believe in judging a book by it's cover or personal interst.
such a spot on video!!
Thank you so much for this. Someone had to do it.
Finn needs to do a hipster photo shoot with a native American patterned poncho, tight leather pants, and the biggest hipster brimmed hat.
Steve Jobs may have refused treatment for his Pancreatic Cancer. But when you look at the numbers Pancreatic Cancer even with aggressive treatment it's still a death sentence. Just saying.
Great video thanks for the content.
Well that sucks.
Tyler the creator seems like such a cool genuine dude. But his fan base is probably primarily hipsters. Think Finn hit it right on the nose how he feels about them too tho.
I think I was on track to become a hipster, but never fully ascended (or descended, I suppose). I have a beard, I have an 100+ Vinyl collection, and I can at times be a little pretentious. But while I do enjoy an occasional craft beer, it ain't that deep, I also have the long hair but refuse to bun it, I need it to be wild. I think what kept me from ever going full hipster was my uncle showing me FFDP when I was 12, I loved it, and it started my love for all the midwest and country metal love (King810 is one of my favorite bands, for reference).
I’m 29, 30 in 3 months. This video made me realize my generation didn’t have a hippie problem. We had a hipster problem. Hipsters are my generations hippies.
The funniest interaction to date is the infamous video on Henry Rollins going into this ultra hipster bar/record store in the East Village and getting mocked by the hipster girls.
hipster culture in my life started in the early 90s when kids started to tell me they knew more alt-rock bands them me... and they knew sub-pop label berore nirvana´s exlosion
by the way, was really expensive to buy all the independent label CDs in order to be aware of what the fanzines were talking about.... and God forbid you having casset tapes recorded from your friends in order to save money , what a loser, not an insider at all.
I love the Portlandia bit where Jello Biafra wakes up from a coma he's been in since the 80s only to find out the world is run by yuppies.
I would take yuppies over what we have now any day of the week. Kinda like Patrick Bateman’s aesthetic ngl
Hipsters: *adopts beards, flannel, whiskey and bacon*
Northern New England: "They're doing what now?? God dammit..."
Whenever the photo pinned in the video is Finn trying to tear is Face off you know it's going to be a good video 🤣
There's a hipster at my local liquor store, listens to 1900's swing/jazz all day, wicked pompous. He don't know that I know he's just listening to the Fallout 3 Soundtrack. 🤣🤣🤣
I work at a vape shop and subject everyone to archspire and beyond creation.
Yeah I dont really get that. I listen to a lot of jazz and have encountered so many people who claim to be super into jazz and all they do is listen to big band swing stuff. There's nothing wrong with enjoying that, big band and swing are good genres, but labeling yourself as a jazz head when your interests lie only in those iterations of it kind of shows how superficial your enjoyment of the genre is as a whole. Like I don't want to gatekeep your enjoyment of jazz (that kind of behavior is pretty antithetical to the genre anyways), but when some of these kinds of people are super resistant to delve deeper into the world of jazz, it makes you question their motivations.
I guess its the age old question of "Do you actually like the music, or do you just think you look cool by your association with it?" At the end of the day, it doesn't really matter; people are going to enjoy the things they enjoy no matter their internal motivations, and that's fine. Part of the reason I got into punk was because I liked the image that being a fan of the genre made for me-- to this day its still my favorite genre, but I had to start somewhere, lol.
I've learned that when I meet someone like this, gatekeeping or calling them out for being a poser is the lamest thing to do; what i like to do is hit em with the old "You like X? Have you heard of Y? No? Let's rock this shit." Almost always a positive response, almost always a good time.
@@tamajack8179 Yeah, don't gatekeep; enlighten people and expand horizons. Its better for the species as a whole.
I think with the jazz music (or any genre), people just like the more familiar, accessable stuff and find the more challenging stuff...well... CHALLENGING!
Some people really like a challenge though!
A dude filed a cease and desist to a news website for using his phone for an editorial about how all hipsters look the same...they didn't use his photo though.
Now that hipsters are dead, I feel more comfortable expressing myself as a lofi nerd
Hipsters LARPed bohemian life.
I knew so many people in college who based their identity on High Fidelity. So many dudes with cardigans. You know what’s awesome…regular fit jeans and a t-shirt or casual button up.
@ghost mall noticing something isn’t really the same thing as being focused on a thing.
Hipsters were saved by Normcore and Hip-hop and evolved out of the tropes in different directions while much if what was Hipster just became mainstream
3:46😂😂 Love your work dude. Many laughs here. What a shame not to have you in my language.
Keep Rockin🙌
being a hipster in my 20s was actually great. It was cringe for sure, but Ive always been a bit of an outcast, I grew up on marilyn manson and Nirvana in the 90s, and skateboarding, but I also embraced hipster life, and had many great nights with my hipster friends. But it was definitely an identity for some people, and all that defined them. I was a lazy hipster, so I still retain a lot of the aesthetics of a homeless person, just no dumb hats ;)
Hipster- “vinyl is the only way to listen to music”
Also Hipster- “I love the environment and choose to live green”
Vinyl Production- “fuck the environment we fuck shit up”
I’m just amazed at how many new beard grooming products there is nowadays,50 different kinds of shaving creams,30 different kinds of razors,20 different kinds of after shave etc.I’m ok with a good old bic and a can of barbasol lol
The process is Hipsters gentrify a poor area and raise the property values and add coffee shops and craft beer, then when crime goes down yuppies move in, Starbucks move in, and rent/property becomes so high it forces the hipsters to a new poor area and the cycle continues
And then once once decent neighborhoods which as a result of gentrification became cheaper to live in than the hood BECOME the hood so when the crime gets outrageous those with the money to do so leave resulting in a no man's land of drugs and crime wherein the people living there only do so because they have to resulting in generational gang violence among other things. YAY!
It's not so much that hipsters are forced to a poor area, my experience from living in a hipster neighorhood in a major city the mid 2000s (I grew up nearby) is that the majority were from upper middle class or affluent suburban white backgrounds. Even if they worked as a barista it wasn't uncommon to be renting a $1500 apartment by themselves because mom and dad were paying for it. The shift to poorer areas was more because after all the yuppies moved in there was another shift in the neighborhood and it was no longer seen as cool by the hipsters.
@@ahorsewithnoname773 I think it can be a mixture of both. Some are poor college kids or recent grads. That said, yes, a lot have parental support
Your grandfather could say he’s done something that only a handful of people who have ever lived will do. That’s pretty damn cool! I’m using my swifter sweeper thinking of you Finn. Thank you!!
I'd love to go the the Met or the Art Institute or something with Finn and hear his opinions on Vermeer or van Gogh or whatever
Big fan of modern painters in general
Steve Jobs "hipstered himself to death" is the greatest take I've heard on this website.
Jimmy missed out one super key thing regarding hipster....VICE MAGAZINE...The Gavin McInnes era. He birthed the modern hipster movement whether you like it or not...I know....SUPER RIGHT WING but Vice perpetuated the hipster
There’s tons of right wing hipsters. It isn’t just woke people. I’d argue the Andrew Tate bro types and wokies are subcultures in the same movement more or less.
@@ryanfraley7113 Andrew Tate isnt right wing. Everything he does and espouses is antithetical to conservative values. Just because he claims to be against the far left doesn’t make him right leaning.
I lived in on Chicago's Northside all through my 20s in the 2000s. It was hipster central. If you want the ugly truth of it, the reason hipsters complained about "gentrification" is because the ones that came from the former middle class or the working class were constantly worried about being priced out of the majority white cool kid neighborhoods. Complaining about gentrification became a way of talking about the widespread fear of downward economic and social mobility but in socially acceptable code. In reality, any of these people whining about the rising cost of rent that came with the migration of yuppies or trust fund "north suburbs" people into "their neighborhood" could have, at any time, just moved to the south or west side neighborhoods which were majority black or hispanic and considerably cheaper. So why didn't they? It was like this weird cognitive dissonance that I didn't even understand at the time. Nobody would admit the truth to each other, because that would be racist, but it's like they wouldn't even admit it to themselves. Their fear of living in a higher crime black neighborhood somehow got recast as hipster non conformity and anti capitalism. Whenever I make this argument to former hipsters from that era, they get really pissed off and defensive because they know it's true.
I don’t think it’s racist to not want to live in a high crime area.
@@shadow6543 Yeah well, this is why people can't have rational conversations about it.
This needs to be upvoted more. It's same where I live. They wouldn't dare stepping foot in a majority Hispanic/Black area nor would they own a business there.
Hipster and punk suffer the same issues as far as identity and conformity go
Punk™️
I had a chai tea latte with a shot of espresso today for $4.50. Call me what you want, that shit was bangin.
11:13 where is this clip from?
Yammering about hipsters is even more passé than actually being one
Hipsters are the same same kids who, in the early 90’s went full hippy, then in the late 90’s, shopped at Hot Topic & tried to tell me why I don’t ‘get’ punk, despite having listened to it since the 80’s. They’re the kids who are always looking to belong and have zero depth, but could afford to ‘look the part’. More than anything, I feel sad for them.
Now they've all moved to work gear, Carhartt beanies and blundstone boots in pristine condition.
@@aliasfakename2267 LOL I feel attacked, I wear Blundstones.
I feel like if there were no labels, Finn might be out of a job... 😂
Pretending to be a fall down drug addict, in terms of dress, and appearance. Unfortunately, I'm a real fall down drug addict
In long term sobriety
I'm 6'5 and have been since I was a young teen and i completely understand the i want to be normal and not be noticed thing...still feel this way and still get anxiety from being in public or around people...
I truly do not understand the man bun hate.
As a hipster in a lot of other regards I understand everything else lol
Unless someone is a Samurai it's unacceptable lol
@@aliasfakename2267 yeah lemme just let my hair go everywhere when I'm on a construction site, seems safe
@@karl_margs a haircut is also an option
@@aliasfakename2267 oh crap! I never realized that! If it weren't for busybodies like you, I would'a kept my hair growing forever
I have a lot of crossover with hipsters, beard, hats, socks, boots, craft beer. I just felt like I was finally cool for the brief period this was popular.
I do, too. It's called classic menswear and delicious beverages.
Never expected Finn to be a Jimmy fan
That “oh no” at 6:25 gave me a giggle snort.
I always thought that Yolo, Miley and Demi Lovato thing of the 2010s were the underclass’ answer to hipster culture. I could define what I hated about the 2010s with Portlandia and could defined the things I liked in that era with the movie Spring Breakers
Based
Ew spring breakers
As a ex emo/scene kid, I didn't fell in the hipster trap. Now I'm shredded and haul ass in a mustang
hell ya brother
Hell yeah brother
Hell yeah brother
At 25:58, from my experience it's not that I based my identity on what I dislike as much as I was indifferent at first, but then it became annoying to see trends I'd prefer to keep at a distance everywhere on my social media and being referenced by my friends. Then, I realized that the world isn't supposed to be a safe space for my sensibilities. My personal example is obviously harmless enough, but there is a lot that can be said for other people who thinks the world should tip-toe around their triggers.
As a guy who wears tight jeans, managed a coffee shop, and sported a mustache for a while, i was a probably a hipster, but whatever...
The hipsters embrace of irony in music was very liberating for me. It suddenly meant that a lot of genres of music, especially 80s metal, and death metal were suddenly relevant and appreciated. There was this sense that yes you could be into weird kraut rock, but if you also took the latest pop music with a healthy grain of salt, that was also totally fine. While I personally don't subscribe to the everything as irony lens 100% myself, I think it's important to recognize that most art, especially art that takes itself very seriously, no matter how beautiful or affecting is often quite embarrassing, and a bit silly.
I’m curious if there is any subculture that won’t eventually draw Finn’s wrath
All subcultures reach a tipping point where they become insufferable. There is also always this weird thing where the people in it think they are nonconformists despite all listening to the same music and dressing the same.
Really like the video it's so true, where I live there is a neighborhood that has always been a shady place full of liquor stores. Hipsters found it. Now all the liquor stores are gone and it went from I would never live there to full of million dollar houses.
I'm kinda confused, Finn, you've mentioned in the video that guys are peacocking when they enjoy styling their hair and into a certain niche of fashion because I, myself, enjoy clothing and styling too, I wear mauve colored trousers and a button down shirt printed with the art of Tim Lehi (tattoo artist) but I don't actually seek attention, to be honest I hate being looked at too much but I do genuinely enjoy styling and designs, I'm also a fan of bands with good fashion sense and aesthetics like Bring Me The Horizon and Bad Omens, Oliver Sykes influenced me while I was growing up, does that mean that I'm also peacocking when I just dress up for myself and idgaf about getting attention?
I still put hipsters and grunge in the same category. They both wear flannels and they both don’t wanna be called what they are and they both think it’s cool to not be cool
Grunge was originally the indie rock of the 80’s that became mainstream in the 90’s. They named it Grunge because it was no longer “indie”.
Just like what you like. Don't do things to be cool. Do things because you like them.
And the anthem for hipsters, "We Are Young" by Fun lol! 😆