Love the Intuit Dome design for the Dawg Pound. Browns have a raucous fan base and even if the stadium is going to be domed it still needs to play up the home-field advantage of the loud fans.
Most 'raucous" fans are working class. Real fans will be priced out of this place. I've been given some free tickets to games at SoFi. After trying it a couple of times, I got sick of the pampered luxury. Didn't feel like a football game at all. Most of the people spent the whole time watching the stadium screens or their phones, anything but the game itself. I had to tell the guys around me to stop talking about their favorite golf courses! I turn down the tickets now (although I am tempted to try and sell them sometimes). My Cleveland Browns died in 1995!
"it's enclosed with seats" ... That's literally every dome in existence. What did you think it wasn't gonna have seats? 😂 This thing looks horrible and the location sucks
I actually like the design. It's actually a different exterior and interior design stadium that we haven't seen. It shows Cleveland is trying to do something different by doing there own thing and being unique. And not trying to copy the allegiant stadium design like Tennessee Titans and Chicago Bears are doing.
I didn’t like the initial rendering from a couple months ago, but seeing the interior has me sold. It has all the modern amenities that a new stadium needs to have, but it’s that wall of seats that sets it apart. Build it
@@alanas9939it definitely goes for a more unique vibe like Minnesota, but it’s that wall of seats in the endzone that sells it for me. That’s is designed to be significant noise zone, similar to the Orange Bowl back in the day
I'm 91, old school, and I've always felt football was created to play outdoors in all the elements. I favor improving the existing stadium. In 1945, I saw the Cleveland Rams defeat the Washington Redskins in the old Municipal Stadium- -- the temperature was 8 Below Zero! And I'm still here.
People are built differently these days. I agree with your assessment of CLEVELAND FOOTBALL and it being played outdoors in the elements solidifying the grittiness and endurance those games take and important pillars of the Browns !! Unfortunately, it's all about the draw of money these days and as some others said, definitely won't draw a Super Bowl or other HUGE money events being an open stadium. Looks very, very expensive and like a launching pad for a new chapter in CLE Browns history!
@@OhTrappyTrap One Super Bowl and One Final Four . Enjoy your new dome that will only last 25 years before it gets replaced or needs a major renovation.
I've never seen Cleveland host a preseason college neutral site game and understandably bowl games and super bowls due to weather. They can host so many events now being inside. This will help tourism a lot in Cleveland. They could make the Ohio State Michigan game a neutral site game there similar to the Georgia Florida game in Jax.
The Browns have been playing at the same site ever since the team first played in 1946, but in two different stadiums. If this stadium gets built, then the Browns would be playing at a different site for the first time in the team's history.
This mean worlds for an expansion of the rapids to the communities down the 71 corridor to the airport/stadium. Im almost 40 so im ready for something new. I spent 15 years in the muni... never lost a tail gate lol
If I were the Browns, I would go with this stadium design and start building it and not renovate the current Browns stadium. I understand some people don’t like the idea of a domed stadium and rather have the game played outdoors instead. The reason why teams are now going with a domed stadium is to avoid inclement weather that would cause the game to be delayed due to heavy wind, heavy rain and lightning and snow and using a domed stadium would eliminate that problem. If this stadium opens in either 2028 or 2029 depending on if there are delays, I think the Browns should open their new stadium on SNF against a division rival and I think it should be Steelers @ Browns on SNF in week 1 to open this stadium.
@@RT88414 Also the reason why cities are going with more dome stadiums is because they can have more events on a yearly basis besides just football. And holding more indoor events like March madness final 4 for a example. And events that acquire indoors to better and safer.
@@lucasjames5187 Exactly!!! It’s not just for just football games for the Cleveland Browns. They can host concerts, final four games, college football bowl and playoff games and a super bowl and various other events not related to football. I understand there are those Browns that want an outdoor stadium because football is known for being played outdoors. But they need to take into account that the Browns are also planning on building their new stadium for various events if it’s related to football or not. When that new stadium gets built, I guarantee the Browns will be getting asked from all these famous bands/solo artists that want to play their music in the new Browns stadium like Taylor Swift for example(even though I don’t listen to the music she sings) or like a world famous band like Metallica would probably be interested in going to Cleveland for a concert or two. This will bring in more visitors to city of Cleveland. Lastly, the Browns will have to figure out what they will have to do with the stadium lights especially at night being close to the airport to not confuse the airplane pilots where the runway is when they try to land the plane at night. During the day it is completely different. I’m sure they have it all figured out.
@@RT88414 A lot of big music artists have been playing stadium concerts at both the old Muni Stadium & the BROWNS stadium right now. Everyone from the Rolling Stones, U2 & Kenny Chesney to Pink Floyd, Peter Frampton & the Beach Boys have played concert's in Cleveland stadiums. Shhiittee... Here's one for ya that I went to back in the day in old Muni Stadium. I seen the Scorpions, AC/DC, Thin Lizzy, Journey, Ted Nugent & Aerosmith all for $12.50 a ticket which was also all general admission. Just saying...
I may not like domes but at least this one is different compared to allegiant and nissan and it looks awesome on the interior side compared to the others
I love it!! Great move by the Haslem’s!!! It be way easier to get to and more fans will be able to come to more games. I know I will. Plus players will want to come play for our Brown’s!!!! Game Changer for sure. Go Brown’s!!!!
This looks way better then what the Titans and Bears are building! Minnesota, LA, and Atlanta went with Unique designs not Carbon Copies! Glad to see the Browns are doing their own thing!
Honest to goodness. Pay for your own darn stadium. The American public is so tired of being held hostage to billionaire owners asking money for new stadiums.
Are these not loans? Please tell me it isn’t a grant to the Browns. Because the county would have part ownership. I’m pretty sure Jerry had to pay back the city of Arlington
This argument doesn’t hold water once you factor in the revenue generated for the investors, including local state and federal it’s an actual money maker
The city of Cleveland ran the Browns out of the city of Cleveland. Too much crime, too congested, too far left. The tax payers can pay a portion of this. This will be amazing
Everyone complaining about the Browns having a dome is soft and not tough are the same ones who barely even show up for the games in the winter!!! Im for the Dome!! Its a new day and time in Cleveland!!!
@@retrogaminggenesis6102Well, you lost to the Saints...in a blizzard. The weather does not help you. I'd rather enjoy going to a game or event where I'm comfortable. It's not the 1940s anymore
I was always against a dome until I saw the Browns play at the Vikings stadium a few years ago. A closed in stadium built the right way is so loud. The Vikings have a super loud stadium and they were able to incorporate a lot of really cool environmental features into the stadium. The Browns definitely used a lot of the same concepts the Vikings did with this rendering. The steep seats on what I am assuming will be the Dawg Pound side will magnify the noise. It looks like the angle of the roof will bounce the noise from the Dawg Pound side to the other endzone. A lot of this design looks very intentional and will likely create a very awesome atmosphere. For any doubters, just wait to experience a game at this stadium before saying it is stupid.
I absolutely love this design. Like you mentioned, SoFi and Allegiant look so similar, and while I think the New Nissan Stadium from the outside looks really cool, the inside looks very similar to SoFi and Allegiant, as well. I would be so disappointed if yet another new stadium just did a copy/paste. It'd bring back (bad) memories of cookie cutter MLB stadiums like Riverfront, Three Rivers, and Busch. So good on Cleveland for such an interesting design. Being next door to the airport is also kind of cool because they have to put the field level 100ft+ underground, like witih SoFi in Inglewood. Final note is about more and more teams going with domes. I won't be worried until/unless New Lambeau has a roof.
Looks like the world's most expensive amazon warehouse from the outside. Titans new stadium looks like the most expensive grocery store. I don't hate these designs but i feel like they only try to outdo the last multi billion dollar stadium with the same but bigger. Nothing new or particular special.
I'll be honest... I LIKE IT!! 👍🏼 its unique and completely different from other stadiums. Is it the greatest design Ive ever seen... not quite. But definitely bold.
It's great to see Cleveland has solved all the other issues tax money could be used to help! How much tax payer money is going to be needed to fund this? Libraries, public transit, infrastructure, police, fire, education budgets are all in awesome shape there? Congrat Cleveland!
How much tax money or even REAL money will go out because of this though. Have to pay every employee that works in all of those buildings. Alot of those people will live in the surrounding area. People flying in for all the events that can be held there that couldnt without the dome. Sales tax on everything sold at food places or other stores. Tax on all food in the stadium. Over time it pays itself off. People just bitch to bitch because MuH TaX mOnEy and don't realize it brings in hundreds of millions. It just doesnt come in taxes it comes in real peoples salaries. If a player works there and makes 40mil a year they have to pay city and state taxes. If an away player plays there they have to pay taxes based on their salary for that one game played there. The money 1 singular Taylor Swift concert will bring in there is fucking stupid money. You dont understand economics if you think taxpayer money going into a stadium is stupid. Obviously you dont want the city paying the full cost but paying part is more then a fair trade-off.
I like the idea of having a dome stadium in cleveland. We've had many years many many years without a dome and played in the most horrendous weather. Mostly because it could house a Super Bowl someday and possibly the Browns could be playing in it. Although I have nothing against an outdoor stadium or the old one
The same thing that’s wrong with Nissan stadium in Tennessee and Everbank Field in Jacksonville or even the dome in St Louis. They were built in a time where baseball stadiums were unique and had personality while nobody knew how to make a football stadium pop. The cowboys changed all that.
@@jakef3995 The main problems with the current BROWNS stadium location is the location itself & the time to build it was rushed & a debacle from day-1. For one, the land the stadium is sitting on is an old landfill site which also sits directly off of Lake Erie that caused big problems when we started the demolition of the old Muni Stadium even before one brick was laid down to build the new stadium. The reason why the BROWNS can't just add a dome to this stadium here now today is due to the extra weight needed to carry the land's foundation. I worked on the entire stadium project from start to finish as a local 17 Ironworker. And the project was f%cked from the day the operators brought down the old stadium & disrupted the foundation of the land itself. The more they moved the dirt, bricks & iron around the more water seepage problems we faced. Water came in so fast it created a bunch of pond's on the land that was a bltch to get shored up. And with the NFL giving Cleveland a certain time allotted to build the new stadium & be ready for game day. The general contractor was already behind the 8-ball in a time crunch to get the job done in time. Needless to say the project went from bad to worse throughout the whole build. Had the engineers & contractor took the time in the first place to build a solid foundation in order to carry the extra weight if the BROWNS wanted to add a dome in later years, like the position we're in today. We wouldn't be having this conversation right now about building any kind of new stadium at all. Unfortunately time waits for no one especially when it comes to a business like the NFL. Sorry to rant but that's it in a nutshell. Hope this clears things up a little more to answer your question my friend. 🤔 GO-DAWGS!
Because the stadium outside of football gets used 4x a year. The city cant make any money from it because the weather is to cold or unpredictable for concerts or other events to reliably take place. Plus it needs expensive renovations being a quarter of a century old at this point.
I feel like when franchise gets new stadiums it help turn them around as far as success wise. That stadium will be one of a kind. Super classy and modernized. That's what the browns need I feel to help put them over the top and bring our city home it's first Lombardi Trophy!! Let's Goooo. I hope this really happens soon. Real soon!!!!
So funny how they think the casuals who don't want to sit through a bad weather game will drive there in the first place. They're just going to drive in a thunderstorm/icy roads in all that traffic, park a football field away and walk in the rain or through the icy parking lot to the entrance? School system only teaches people to use half their brains.
I attended a few Steelers games at the old Browns stadium in the early 90s and loved the atmosphere, lake chill and all. It's sad that the once great outdoor sport of NFL football is now becoming an indoor sport. More and more teams want roofs, and I think it's a shame that most games will appear plastic and artificial instead of blending in with the natural elements. I understand revenue and all that jazz, but I guess basketball arenas aren't big enough for concerts and other events these days? Gotta keep up with the (Jerry) Jones's and heaven forbid it gets cold or players get grass stains or dirt on their uniforms. The league is too pretty and political now, and it's a bore.
Agreed. Don't forget higher ticket costs. The average Joe Blow be lucky watch it on TV. Way things are going it be all premium steaming for NFL games within 10 years.
I think people forget how climate change might be leading to the dome trend. I agree with how unfortunate the high costs are, especially with working class citizens, and possibly losing the joy of outdoor elements, but it's also natural that even the paying customers (non-wealthy) would want to cheer their teams on while escaping the wrath of Mother Nature for a few hours on game day.
The renders look good. Its different from whats out there, in a good way. I am sure the release of these renders is also the city of Cleveland's last chance to make a better deal to keep them in the city.
Im sure if there was literally any spot in Cleveland on the lake they could do this they would. But you'd have to spend another 4 billion to buy buildings, destroy them, fix up the land, and then build. Its not feasible for the city or the haslems.
Where are the statues going? Jim Brown? Otto Graham? Paul Brown? Marty Shottenheimer? Brian Sipe? Also what about the noise from the airport with that roof?
That Ford plant isnt going anywhere for a while. Its the main factory where they assemble 3.5 Eco boost engine, as well as 2.0 engines. And theirs no way Ford closes it to build a new facility in the region. Car companies rarely build new facilities if not needed.
I don't get the calls for a retractable roof. It adds nothing but more cost. It's not going to be open unless the weather outside is nice anyways. I do think having it indoors takes away the weather advantage. But I'm hoping the design replaces that with a noise advantage.
My brain just can't fathom this amazing design layout, but this looks like the African-American Museum in DC. Even with the layers from a short height to a deep cavern.
@@Orlando_Steve How are they doing that, cancer awareness you mean? Im not straight and have watched football since I was 7 because the sport is just great. I bet around 5% of the players are G or B.
Remind me how many Subs we have in slime, grimy weather again? Or even a AFC North title? I’ll answer for you ZERO. Build the dome. Get a leg up for once on your division. Maybe one day it will allow us to have a decent passing game.
I hope the Brook Park mayor comes out and does a mock ceremony like when the browns moved to Baltimore when the Maryland governor infamously said, "We have a signed agreement, the Browns are moving to Baltimore!" Now it's "We have a signed agreement, the Browns are moving to Brook Park!"
meh, I really prefer the open air stadiums. Being a fall and winter sport, the weather is a big part of the experience imo whether watching in the stadium or at home on television.
This is certainly a nice change compared to the cookie-cutter Manica designs. I really like the design of US Bank stadium in Minneapolis and this looks great as well. Compared to the Bears and Chiefs renders this is just superior.
Serious question…..how much longer on the sin tax? If this is built, and current is demolished, would the taxpayers be paying for a stadium that doesn’t exist?
For the last 30 years its been go downtown. Make it all in 1 spot. Now opposite. Whatever. The dome is a good idea. Way out in a parking lot by the Airport. I say No
Since 1999 the Browns are 14-44 in games played under 32 degrees. Doesn't seem like our weather helps us. I was at a game a couple yrs ago on Xmas against the Saints. Temp was 2 degrees. The New Orleans Saints , who play in a dome kicked the crap out of the Browns that day. Give me the Dome
The city of Cleveland is going to force the Haslam's to choose to options eather sell the Cleveland Browns or accept the city of Cleveland proposal because they are going to force the Art Model law so this is not going to happen REGARDLESS what people say or think.
Roof looks too slanted to put secret service on top of it
Wow!!! My mind has been changed..this stadium looks AWESOME. Go Browns!!!
Looks like a football version of the Texas Rangers new stadium.
Love the Intuit Dome design for the Dawg Pound. Browns have a raucous fan base and even if the stadium is going to be domed it still needs to play up the home-field advantage of the loud fans.
Most 'raucous" fans are working class. Real fans will be priced out of this place. I've been given some free tickets to games at SoFi. After trying it a couple of times, I got sick of the pampered luxury. Didn't feel like a football game at all. Most of the people spent the whole time watching the stadium screens or their phones, anything but the game itself. I had to tell the guys around me to stop talking about their favorite golf courses! I turn down the tickets now (although I am tempted to try and sell them sometimes). My Cleveland Browns died in 1995!
It looks like a super sized, ultra modern city library.
I don’t think the renderings do enough justice. Once you see it in person I think your mind will flip.
@@YautjaHunter3 thats a good thing. Itll make the Browns smarter
I LOVE IT. It’s completely enclosed with seats. Like MetLife stadium. More seats the better.
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"it's enclosed with seats" ... That's literally every dome in existence. What did you think it wasn't gonna have seats? 😂 This thing looks horrible and the location sucks
For 3 billion this stadium should be more wow factor. It should be magnificent. I hope this the first phase or concept of the rendering.
Probably more bells and whistles inside that aren’t in the initial designs
I hope it last at least 50 years
I actually like the design. It's actually a different exterior and interior design stadium that we haven't seen. It shows Cleveland is trying to do something different by doing there own thing and being unique. And not trying to copy the allegiant stadium design like Tennessee Titans and Chicago Bears are doing.
I agree
I didn’t like the initial rendering from a couple months ago, but seeing the interior has me sold. It has all the modern amenities that a new stadium needs to have, but it’s that wall of seats that sets it apart. Build it
Interior is sick!!! 🙌
The venue Ohio deserves! Go Brook Park 🎉
Looks like a giant museum. I do like how it's different though. Overall I dig it
This is awesome for the city of Cleveland and bringing in more events to the city
Hey man. This is brookpark.
Not Cleveland.
@@mikegeezy3183 Still bringing in money no matter what 🤷🏾♂️
It’s like US Bank with some hints of Allegiant. I like it.
Well rumor has it that of all NFL stadiums, US Bank impressed the Haslems the most .
At least it isn't another copy & paste of Vegas, Nashville, Chicago, Kansas City....
it almost looks like close to a copy/paste of US Bank stadium here in MN
@@alanas9939it definitely goes for a more unique vibe like Minnesota, but it’s that wall of seats in the endzone that sells it for me. That’s is designed to be significant noise zone, similar to the Orange Bowl back in the day
@@alanas9939 not it doesnt outside of that one part of the roof
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Stadium actually looks kinda sick ngl.
I'm 91, old school, and I've always felt football was created to play outdoors in all the elements. I favor improving the existing stadium. In 1945, I saw the Cleveland Rams defeat the Washington Redskins in the old Municipal Stadium- -- the temperature was 8 Below Zero! And I'm still here.
A Super Bowl or Final Four will NEVER be played outdoors, in Cleveland. This makes it possible.
They also quit making flat head Ford motors long time ago.
In other words times change constantly you gotta keep up with The times
@@timdeutsch4157At 91, I'm not worried I don't think I'll be around in 2028, at least not going to any games. lol
People are built differently these days. I agree with your assessment of CLEVELAND FOOTBALL and it being played outdoors in the elements solidifying the grittiness and endurance those games take and important pillars of the Browns !! Unfortunately, it's all about the draw of money these days and as some others said, definitely won't draw a Super Bowl or other HUGE money events being an open stadium. Looks very, very expensive and like a launching pad for a new chapter in CLE Browns history!
@@OhTrappyTrap One Super Bowl and One Final Four . Enjoy your new dome that will only last 25 years before it gets replaced or needs a major renovation.
I've never seen Cleveland host a preseason college neutral site game and understandably bowl games and super bowls due to weather. They can host so many events now being inside. This will help tourism a lot in Cleveland. They could make the Ohio State Michigan game a neutral site game there similar to the Georgia Florida game in Jax.
I went to an Akron vs BC game in Cleveland like 15ish years ago back when Edelman was QB. Cant remember any since then though.
it looks like a modern green house
Wow, that new game "Stadium Tycoon" has really evolved throughout the years!
The Browns have been playing at the same site ever since the team first played in 1946, but in two different stadiums. If this stadium gets built, then the Browns would be playing at a different site for the first time in the team's history.
This mean worlds for an expansion of the rapids to the communities down the 71 corridor to the airport/stadium. Im almost 40 so im ready for something new. I spent 15 years in the muni... never lost a tail gate lol
I like it....its different
If I were the Browns, I would go with this stadium design and start building it and not renovate the current Browns stadium. I understand some people don’t like the idea of a domed stadium and rather have the game played outdoors instead. The reason why teams are now going with a domed stadium is to avoid inclement weather that would cause the game to be delayed due to heavy wind, heavy rain and lightning and snow and using a domed stadium would eliminate that problem. If this stadium opens in either 2028 or 2029 depending on if there are delays, I think the Browns should open their new stadium on SNF against a division rival and I think it should be Steelers @ Browns on SNF in week 1 to open this stadium.
@@RT88414 Also the reason why cities are going with more dome stadiums is because they can have more events on a yearly basis besides just football. And holding more indoor events like March madness final 4 for a example. And events that acquire indoors to better and safer.
@@lucasjames5187 Exactly!!! It’s not just for just football games for the Cleveland Browns. They can host concerts, final four games, college football bowl and playoff games and a super bowl and various other events not related to football. I understand there are those Browns that want an outdoor stadium because football is known for being played outdoors. But they need to take into account that the Browns are also planning on building their new stadium for various events if it’s related to football or not. When that new stadium gets built, I guarantee the Browns will be getting asked from all these famous bands/solo artists that want to play their music in the new Browns stadium like Taylor Swift for example(even though I don’t listen to the music she sings) or like a world famous band like Metallica would probably be interested in going to Cleveland for a concert or two. This will bring in more visitors to city of Cleveland. Lastly, the Browns will have to figure out what they will have to do with the stadium lights especially at night being close to the airport to not confuse the airplane pilots where the runway is when they try to land the plane at night. During the day it is completely different. I’m sure they have it all figured out.
@@RT88414 A lot of big music artists have been playing stadium concerts at both the old Muni Stadium & the BROWNS stadium right now. Everyone from the Rolling Stones, U2 & Kenny Chesney to Pink Floyd, Peter Frampton & the Beach Boys have played concert's in Cleveland stadiums. Shhiittee... Here's one for ya that I went to back in the day in old Muni Stadium. I seen the Scorpions, AC/DC, Thin Lizzy, Journey, Ted Nugent & Aerosmith all for $12.50 a ticket which was also all general admission. Just saying...
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Maybe haslem should focus on a superbowl before a new lifeless dome
All the Cleveland Browns signs/ logos are going to be changed whatever the sponsor of the stadium will be.
I may not like domes but at least this one is different compared to allegiant and nissan and it looks awesome on the interior side compared to the others
I like the inside of this one.
Yes yes yes, PLEASE HAPPEN!
I hope it looks this good when completed. The amount of new events we can have is awesome. The dawgpound section reminds me of dortmunds wall
As a fan of architecture, this design is very incredible and a one of a kind.
Awesome! Looking foward to all the games they will lose in this gorgeous new stadium! #fumble #drive
If the pervert is still with the team by then.
I like how diversified your content is. Keep up the good work!
Looks sleek, I’m into it. Location has great proximity to the Brookpark RTA red line station
I love it!! Great move by the Haslem’s!!! It be way easier to get to and more fans will be able to come to more games. I know I will. Plus players will want to come play for our Brown’s!!!! Game Changer for sure. Go Brown’s!!!!
This looks way better then what the Titans and Bears are building! Minnesota, LA, and Atlanta went with Unique designs not Carbon Copies! Glad to see the Browns are doing their own thing!
Honest to goodness. Pay for your own darn stadium. The American public is so tired of being held hostage to billionaire owners asking money for new stadiums.
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Are these not loans? Please tell me it isn’t a grant to the Browns. Because the county would have part ownership. I’m pretty sure Jerry had to pay back the city of Arlington
It ain't happening chiefs. Public money isn't going anywhere
This argument doesn’t hold water once you factor in the revenue generated for the investors, including local state and federal it’s an actual money maker
The city of Cleveland ran the Browns out of the city of Cleveland. Too much crime, too congested, too far left. The tax payers can pay a portion of this. This will be amazing
Everyone complaining about the Browns having a dome is soft and not tough are the same ones who barely even show up for the games in the winter!!! Im for the Dome!! Its a new day and time in Cleveland!!!
I hate it and I love bracing the snow, it is soft people they still fill a stadium in November.
@@retrogaminggenesis6102 Well the Bills news stadium won't have a dome 🤷🏾
@@retrogaminggenesis6102Well, you lost to the Saints...in a blizzard. The weather does not help you. I'd rather enjoy going to a game or event where I'm comfortable. It's not the 1940s anymore
I was always against a dome until I saw the Browns play at the Vikings stadium a few years ago. A closed in stadium built the right way is so loud. The Vikings have a super loud stadium and they were able to incorporate a lot of really cool environmental features into the stadium. The Browns definitely used a lot of the same concepts the Vikings did with this rendering. The steep seats on what I am assuming will be the Dawg Pound side will magnify the noise. It looks like the angle of the roof will bounce the noise from the Dawg Pound side to the other endzone. A lot of this design looks very intentional and will likely create a very awesome atmosphere. For any doubters, just wait to experience a game at this stadium before saying it is stupid.
LOOKS FANTASTIC
That glass roof is incredible!
Think about all the new jobs this creates. This is absolutely amazing and a blessing for the area and our football team!
A trillion-dollar business leading taxpayers to split the bill
I like it. It's very different from any other NFL Stadium, its unique. Location is the only drawback but they'll have to used to it
I absolutely love this design. Like you mentioned, SoFi and Allegiant look so similar, and while I think the New Nissan Stadium from the outside looks really cool, the inside looks very similar to SoFi and Allegiant, as well.
I would be so disappointed if yet another new stadium just did a copy/paste. It'd bring back (bad) memories of cookie cutter MLB stadiums like Riverfront, Three Rivers, and Busch.
So good on Cleveland for such an interesting design. Being next door to the airport is also kind of cool because they have to put the field level 100ft+ underground, like witih SoFi in Inglewood.
Final note is about more and more teams going with domes. I won't be worried until/unless New Lambeau has a roof.
Looks like the world's most expensive amazon warehouse from the outside. Titans new stadium looks like the most expensive grocery store. I don't hate these designs but i feel like they only try to outdo the last multi billion dollar stadium with the same but bigger. Nothing new or particular special.
It looks fantastic, they have a nice new house.
I'll be honest... I LIKE IT!! 👍🏼 its unique and completely different from other stadiums. Is it the greatest design Ive ever seen... not quite. But definitely bold.
It's great to see Cleveland has solved all the other issues tax money could be used to help! How much tax payer money is going to be needed to fund this? Libraries, public transit, infrastructure, police, fire, education budgets are all in awesome shape there? Congrat Cleveland!
How much tax money or even REAL money will go out because of this though. Have to pay every employee that works in all of those buildings. Alot of those people will live in the surrounding area. People flying in for all the events that can be held there that couldnt without the dome. Sales tax on everything sold at food places or other stores. Tax on all food in the stadium. Over time it pays itself off. People just bitch to bitch because MuH TaX mOnEy and don't realize it brings in hundreds of millions. It just doesnt come in taxes it comes in real peoples salaries. If a player works there and makes 40mil a year they have to pay city and state taxes. If an away player plays there they have to pay taxes based on their salary for that one game played there. The money 1 singular Taylor Swift concert will bring in there is fucking stupid money. You dont understand economics if you think taxpayer money going into a stadium is stupid. Obviously you dont want the city paying the full cost but paying part is more then a fair trade-off.
I like the idea of having a dome stadium in cleveland. We've had many years many many years without a dome and played in the most horrendous weather. Mostly because it could house a Super Bowl someday and possibly the Browns could be playing in it. Although I have nothing against an outdoor stadium or the old one
Love it. Something unique, finally
that place looks beautiful ngl
Happy for you Browns fans. It looks like an aircraft hanger. Which Super Bowl do you think it will host?
it's not a football stadium it's a multi-purpose stadium so in that case I think it's cool
I’m not a browns fan and especially not a dome fan but I like the look of this stadium. Although I’m not sure what’s wrong with the current stadium.
The same thing that’s wrong with Nissan stadium in Tennessee and Everbank Field in Jacksonville or even the dome in St Louis. They were built in a time where baseball stadiums were unique and had personality while nobody knew how to make a football stadium pop. The cowboys changed all that.
@@johnepants I get that but I was referring to the actual condition of the stadium. Is it run down, has it passed inspections, etc.
@@jakef3995it’s still a nice stadium. Out of all the stadiums I have seen or went too, Cleveland takes the cake
@@jakef3995 The main problems with the current BROWNS stadium location is the location itself & the time to build it was rushed & a debacle from day-1. For one, the land the stadium is sitting on is an old landfill site which also sits directly off of Lake Erie that caused big problems when we started the demolition of the old Muni Stadium even before one brick was laid down to build the new stadium. The reason why the BROWNS can't just add a dome to this stadium here now today is due to the extra weight needed to carry the land's foundation. I worked on the entire stadium project from start to finish as a local 17 Ironworker. And the project was f%cked from the day the operators brought down the old stadium & disrupted the foundation of the land itself. The more they moved the dirt, bricks & iron around the more water seepage problems we faced. Water came in so fast it created a bunch of pond's on the land that was a bltch to get shored up. And with the NFL giving Cleveland a certain time allotted to build the new stadium & be ready for game day. The general contractor was already behind the 8-ball in a time crunch to get the job done in time. Needless to say the project went from bad to worse throughout the whole build. Had the engineers & contractor took the time in the first place to build a solid foundation in order to carry the extra weight if the BROWNS wanted to add a dome in later years, like the position we're in today. We wouldn't be having this conversation right now about building any kind of new stadium at all. Unfortunately time waits for no one especially when it comes to a business like the NFL. Sorry to rant but that's it in a nutshell. Hope this clears things up a little more to answer your question my friend. 🤔 GO-DAWGS!
Because the stadium outside of football gets used 4x a year. The city cant make any money from it because the weather is to cold or unpredictable for concerts or other events to reliably take place. Plus it needs expensive renovations being a quarter of a century old at this point.
I feel like when franchise gets new stadiums it help turn them around as far as success wise. That stadium will be one of a kind. Super classy and modernized. That's what the browns need I feel to help put them over the top and bring our city home it's first Lombardi Trophy!! Let's Goooo. I hope this really happens soon. Real soon!!!!
How's that's working for Minnesota, Detroit, raiders
So funny how they think the casuals who don't want to sit through a bad weather game will drive there in the first place. They're just going to drive in a thunderstorm/icy roads in all that traffic, park a football field away and walk in the rain or through the icy parking lot to the entrance?
School system only teaches people to use half their brains.
ngl, that stadium looks pretty cool
I attended a few Steelers games at the old Browns stadium in the early 90s and loved the atmosphere, lake chill and all. It's sad that the once great outdoor sport of NFL football is now becoming an indoor sport. More and more teams want roofs, and I think it's a shame that most games will appear plastic and artificial instead of blending in with the natural elements. I understand revenue and all that jazz, but I guess basketball arenas aren't big enough for concerts and other events these days? Gotta keep up with the (Jerry) Jones's and heaven forbid it gets cold or players get grass stains or dirt on their uniforms. The league is too pretty and political now, and it's a bore.
Agreed. Don't forget higher ticket costs. The average Joe Blow be lucky watch it on TV. Way things are going it be all premium steaming for NFL games within 10 years.
Well I never seen a stadium like that.
In history
I think people forget how climate change might be leading to the dome trend. I agree with how unfortunate the high costs are, especially with working class citizens, and possibly losing the joy of outdoor elements, but it's also natural that even the paying customers (non-wealthy) would want to cheer their teams on while escaping the wrath of Mother Nature for a few hours on game day.
It’s so different I like it
The renders look good. Its different from whats out there, in a good way. I am sure the release of these renders is also the city of Cleveland's last chance to make a better deal to keep them in the city.
I really like it but I think the stadium should be on the waterfront
I agree.. got to sell the lake. it's a staple of the city that every city don't have
Agreed
Im sure if there was literally any spot in Cleveland on the lake they could do this they would. But you'd have to spend another 4 billion to buy buildings, destroy them, fix up the land, and then build. Its not feasible for the city or the haslems.
Looks really nice butttt the downtown stadium is in a perfect
Spot and they should just try a retractable roof
Where are the statues going? Jim Brown? Otto Graham? Paul Brown? Marty Shottenheimer? Brian Sipe?
Also what about the noise from the airport with that roof?
That Ford plant isnt going anywhere for a while. Its the main factory where they assemble 3.5 Eco boost engine, as well as 2.0 engines. And theirs no way Ford closes it to build a new facility in the region. Car companies rarely build new facilities if not needed.
It looks great! 👍👍🏈😎
I don't get the calls for a retractable roof. It adds nothing but more cost. It's not going to be open unless the weather outside is nice anyways. I do think having it indoors takes away the weather advantage. But I'm hoping the design replaces that with a noise advantage.
How about the advantage of our team being able to play at their maximum efficiency instead of having to cope with sloppy field conditions?
My brain just can't fathom this amazing design layout, but this looks like the African-American Museum in DC.
Even with the layers from a short height to a deep cavern.
I know it's unique but it looks like a 1970s office building but looks great on the inside what do you think browns fans
I love everything about it.
Lifelong Browns fan. I like it. I hope it happens.
This is awesome
Hate it. Domes are ruining the NFL. AFC North football is supposed to be grimy, cloudy & cold. Domes are too corporate & lifeless.
Trying to appeal to women and LGBT has ruined the NFL.
@@Orlando_Steve How are they doing that, cancer awareness you mean? Im not straight and have watched football since I was 7 because the sport is just great. I bet around 5% of the players are G or B.
They want to host a Super Bowl and other major events. Only way that happens now is if it’s a domed stadium if it’s a cold weather city.
Remind me how many Subs we have in slime, grimy weather again? Or even a AFC North title? I’ll answer for you ZERO. Build the dome. Get a leg up for once on your division. Maybe one day it will allow us to have a decent passing game.
I disagree. Mercedes Benz Stadium in Atlanta is great! I also get to watch a game without freezing or getting soaked or sitting in scorching heat.
Love it, haters gonna hate though
Actually looks dope
I hope the Brook Park mayor comes out and does a mock ceremony like when the browns moved to Baltimore when the Maryland governor infamously said, "We have a signed agreement, the Browns are moving to Baltimore!"
Now it's "We have a signed agreement, the Browns are moving to Brook Park!"
Its in a better community
meh, I really prefer the open air stadiums. Being a fall and winter sport, the weather is a big part of the experience imo whether watching in the stadium or at home on television.
It will look great with the gray sky for 2/3 of the year
Looking very nice for Brookpark Browns. I hope the Buffalo Bills will build a stadium district like this one, but i doubt it. WNY is so cheap.
Awesome!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
finally it looks different from Las vegas and tennessee
This is certainly a nice change compared to the cookie-cutter Manica designs. I really like the design of US Bank stadium in Minneapolis and this looks great as well. Compared to the Bears and Chiefs renders this is just superior.
Ben Roethlisberger Stadium looks fantastic 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
I won’t lie I wish Cincinnati had a dome. Perfect for all the weather Ohio gets
Serious question…..how much longer on the sin tax? If this is built, and current is demolished, would the taxpayers be paying for a stadium that doesn’t exist?
I would hope that any of that extra sin tax money gets divided up at Gateway
Looks great have to say and unique unlike Bears design.
Will they be able to put in a grass field? I hate the way turf looks in person and on tv in professional sports, just a personal preference
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Love it actually
They should Collett the Art Modell Memorial Stadium 👍🏼
For the last 30 years its been go downtown. Make it all in 1 spot. Now opposite. Whatever. The dome is a good idea. Way out in a parking lot by the Airport. I say No
i love it honestly i really do
Wonder how they make that be able to handle snow loads since snows alot in Cleveland
does the top open up? how can you have cleveland browns and no cleveland weather? it's part of what makes the afc north tough
It will make the Browns will be even weaker in the division than they already are.
Wish it was retractable
Since 1999 the Browns are 14-44 in games played under 32 degrees. Doesn't seem like our weather helps us. I was at a game a couple yrs ago on Xmas against the Saints. Temp was 2 degrees. The New Orleans Saints , who play in a dome kicked the crap out of the Browns that day. Give me the Dome
No open roof option? Really?
dawg pound looks like a lot of mls safe-standing areas
Do your research. This IS the site of the Ford plant. It has been gone for years and why Haslams bought the area.
They better get shuttles to take people from the parking lots to the stadium and back.
What a mess. I don't believe they are actually going to build that.
What do you mean a mess? This is awesome
The city of Cleveland is going to force the Haslam's to choose to options eather sell the Cleveland Browns or accept the city of Cleveland proposal because they are going to force the Art Model law so this is not going to happen REGARDLESS what people say or think.