WLToys K969 Drift and K989 Touring Car Comparison - Which Should You Buy? | RC Racing Legends
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- Опубліковано 9 чер 2020
- Comparison video between the WLToys 1/28 scale K969 Drift Car and the K989 Touring Car. Both cars are great if you're looking to get into the small-scale R/C scene without spending a lot.
Bodyshells aside, however, their differences are subtle but important if you're considering buying either of these cars. Hopefully, this video helps you decide which is best for you.
NOTE: This is the very first video I've ever made (using only my old cell phone), and it went WAY longer than I had intended. However, I really do hope you find it useful.
Links:
WLToys K969 Drift Car: www.banggood.com/custlink/vGD...
WLToys K989 Touring Car: www.banggood.com/custlink/GDD...
Check out Beaver's Hobby video here on UA-cam on the K989 - it's very informative and more technically in-depth: • WLtoys K989 Budget Tou...
You can also check out Rc Obsessive's video here on UA-cam on the K969, where he shows how to drift the car - you'll get a better idea of the car's dynamics and how it behaves: • Low Cost BEGINNER RC D...
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Thank you for this video. I was interested in knowing what the differences were. You covered it very well and all my questions about these cars have been answered.
You're most welcome. I'm very glad to hear you found it helpful.
That was perfectly done. Exactly what I wanted from a comparison video.
Thanks. Glad you liked it, and I hope it helped you make a buying decision.
Many thanks. Very useful info in here. Been looking at these for a while and you helped a lot.
Glad you found the video helpful.
Great comparison & explanation! Thank you & really enjoy watching. Subbed! Hope to see these cars running. Keep it up😁👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Thanks, glad you like the video.
I need to get back into these two cars soon. With the nice weather I've been more focused on getting ready to build my Tamiya DT-03 buggy. But I'm planning a few upgrades for these WLToys cars in the future.
@@RCRacingLegends Nice! Looking fwd for these cars upgrade video. I also love k989 & k969 so much. Pls come by to my channel about this car too. I did a bit diy mod😁
thank you! this was really good video and it helped me! keep up the good work!
Thank you. I'm glad you liked the video and found it useful.
thats a great review you solve all doubts I have, thanks man 👍
Glad you liked it!
Great video, you got a sub from me! You convinced me to buy both of'em :p .
I've had RC cars since I was 10 years old but never something this small.. can't wait to dive & tune them!
Thanks! Glad you liked the video.
You won't regret buying them, honestly. They're a lot of fun and they're different enough from one another that they almost have their own unique personality. You'll see exactly what I mean when you get them.
The waiting for them to be delivered is the hardest part. But I'm sure you'll love them! Congrats on the purchase!
Excellent video, very detailed! Thanks for this man! Appreciate it
Basically you made me decide between the two of them. You now should make a video where you pick up a body shell and customise the look of your rc.
Cheers mate!
Thanks, glad you liked the video.
It's funny you say that. I have actually picked up a new Mini-Z body which I plan to use on the K969 drift car. And I definitely plan to do a video about it. But I have a few other plans for that car in addition to the body, so stay tuned.
I'm late but I just got into the hobby and I wanted to say that this is an amazing comparison, keep it up!
There's no such thing as being late to this great hobby. Welcome, and I hope you enjoy it!
And thank you very much for your comments. I'm glad you liked the video and that it proved useful. 😀
Just what i needed thankyou. Keep up the good work god bless.😁
Thanks, glad you found it helpful. 😀
Glad I watched this video, I'm just about to get 2 of the 989 rally... and now I know I want a drift one too. Way more economical than the mini z. Although those are awesome looking.
That's kinda why I purchased one of each of these cars. I just couldn't decide which one I liked more or which one was going to be more suitable for what I wanted to do with them... so I got both. As you said, Mini-Zs are awesome, but for the cost I couldn't justify buying two of them. But two of these WLToys cars comes in WAY under the cost of the least expensive Mini-Z.
During the video, it occurred to me that I knew that voice. It seemed very familiar to me. The cadence and everything. Then it hit me...... Edward Snowden! Yo dude, you are a true patriot! 😎 Thanks for the upload!
LOL!! I'm not Edward Snowden.
I'm not even sure if I should take this one as a compliment, but... thank you?
Still laughing about it though...LOL!!
Excellent review.
Thanks. Glad you found it useful.
I just scored 8 boxes of laminate hardwood flooring, and I'm building a race track in my spare room. I can't wait for the 1/28 scale. The 1/10 is a little big... ha
That's awesome! Wish I had the room to do something like that. Right now, the best I can do is clear some space in my basement to get these little cars going.
Im gonna order one soon my entire house is polyurethane hardwood. I just see myself drifting it around all my furniture
Do it!
As to what was said concerning the T/X and R/X. The WLToys 10428 Rock Racer comes with a very nice T/X that will also bind with either of these cars.
That's good information to know, thanks for mentioning it.
Great and awesome tutorial question what kind of tools or tool set do you have for general up keep and upgrades etc ??
Ready to pull the trigger on both thanks ..
Thanks, glad you found the video useful.
For working on these small WLToys cars, I use a relatively inexpensive 7-piece precision screwdriver tool set by Husky (Model 67123H) I picked up at Home Depot, which I think was about $8 USD. This tool set will tackle about 99% of any maintenance/upgrades you'll ever encounter working on these cars so if you pick up something similar you'll be fine. You'll also need a 4mm hex socket in order to remove the small nuts that hold the wheels in place. I have one as part of a larger metric socket set but you don't need an entire set of hex sockets. You can simply pick up a single 1/4" drive 4mm socket and handle and you'll pretty much have everything you'll need to do virtually any work on these cars.
I hope that helps.
Very informative👍👍
Thanks. Glad you found it helpful.
RC Racing Legends ordered K989 to introduce myself to hobby✌🏻
@@kalinkha That's awesome! You won't regret it at all - the K989 is a lot of fun.
So glad I just picked up the 989. Thank you for your comparison! you rock sir!
Glad the video helped.
And congratulations on your K989! Enjoy it.
good comparison👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks! Glad you liked it. I hope you found it helpful.
@@RCRacingLegends indeed! Have a nice one
Really good video I have a question if you could have recommend I just want a car that can do cool things like drift but it's also fast and I'm kind of torn between a outside car and an inside car like the wltoys a959b or this car the porch one so if you could just give me some like info on which one you think I should get or which one in your opinion would you get before like which one would you start off with cuz I want a car that's I never really got into RC cars until now and I just want a car that's easy to control but it's fun
Thanks! Glad you liked the video.
The answer to your question isn't a simple one, but I'll do my best to give you some sort of direction.
First of all, if you're looking for an "outdoor" R/C car, I wouldn't suggest either the K969/989 nor would I suggest the A959B. These are great R/C cars, but in my opinion, they're a bit too small to be really useful or even fun outside. For outside use, I wouldn't look at anything smaller than a 1/10 scale vehicle. And in that respect, there's a lot of great options with some being really cheap and others rather expensive. The best thing is there are many different styles in this scale, like buggies, truggies, bashers, on-road touring cars, drift cars, crawlers, trail trucks... you name it. The trouble is this size of the R/C market is so vast I would need a lot more information from you as to what you like, what you're looking for, and how much you're looking to spend, in order to make a suggestion.
Now, if you're looking for something indoor,, and given that this is your first R/C, I would strongly suggest getting the K989, then spend a bit of money on an extra set of wheels and drift tires. The K969 is really more of a drift-specific car, which is fun but can be frustrating if you've never done it before. Trust me, drifting LOOKS easy on screen, but it's not easy to do. The K989 offers more flexibility as to how it can be used because it has open diffs and nice rubber tires. That way you can spend your time learning to drive an R/C properly and get used to the dynamics. Plus, if you get a second set of wheels and drift tires, you can try drifting to see if you like it, and you can always switch back to the rubber tires for "general" use.
I hope that helps, or at least gives you some sort of direction.
Great content
Thank you. That means a lot.
Thank you so much for this informative video, extremely informative, I'm a newb but have been looking to get into the drifting and I was going to get the k989 thinking it could drive out of the box because a lot of online shops selling these as if they are drifting out of the box like the k969 but u sound a bit apprehensive about that one, maybe it was just me. either way, I didn't think these little cars needed plastic wheels to drift. I guess I'm just wondering if I should get the touring car and some drift tires and/or parts or just get a drift car. thanks again for the great video!
Thanks, I'm glad you liked the video and found it informative.
I didn't really mean to sound apprehensive about the K969 - it's a great RC car - but it is more difficult to drive out of the box which is something I really wasn't expecting when I bought both of these. In all honesty they're both great and if you have experience drifting or you know that's exactly what you're looking for then the K969 is a very good choice.
However, I typically suggest beginners consider the K989 because out of the box it is a bit more versatile. If you want to use it as-is, it's a very good little RC car. It's fast, handles well, the rubber tires have good grip and it can be used on a number of different surfaces both inside and outside. If, you're looking to get into drifting with it, a set of drift tires from DS Racing (you can find them on eBay) and a set of Kyosho 4WD wheels (also easily found on eBay) are inexpensive and will have you drifting in no time. As you progress in your drifting skills and feel you might benefit from locked differentials, you can disassemble the diffs and simply insert a circular piece of paper over the ring gear, then reassemble and you'll have locked diffs virtually for free. If you find you don't like the locked diffs, simply remove the piece of paper, and you're back to open diffs. You can also pack the diffs with really heavy grease to achieve a similar locked effect. And if you desire to go back to a stock driving experience, it's as easy as swapping the wheels and tires for the rubber ones that came with the car.
Ultimately, you can't go wrong with either car. They're both great. I just think the K989 provides a bit more versatility between the two.
I hope that helps.
@@RCRacingLegends this helped me alot. knowing how easy it would be to convert the k989 into a drifter, ill probably end of getting it, since it can also go semi offroad. would you happen to know of a guide on how to lock the diffs?
@@12gauge_shawtyy Glad you found the video useful.
As for guides on how to lock the diffs, there are a couple of good guides here on UA-cam. I'll leave a link below to a video that shows a number of different ways to accomplish locking the diff on these cars. Personally, I prefer a "non-permanent" method (the easiest for these WLToys cars is simply a piece of paper cut into a circle to fit inside the diff between the ring gear and the spider gears), just in case I decide to return the car to open diffs, but the choice is entirely yours.
How To DIY RC - ua-cam.com/video/Fpd4iJnz9hc/v-deo.html&ab_channel=HowToDIYRc
I hope that helps.
@@RCRacingLegends Thanks!
Hey there sir! I just wanna say first that u made a really good vid! I have a question though. Do you have any problems with the suspension? Because mine has a very odd toe in and toe out and it makes it hard to drive straight. Do you think theres any way to fix that?
Hi and thanks for your compliment. Glad you liked the video.
Are you running the K969 or K989? I haven't noticed any toe-in or toe-out issues with the K989 but it seems the K969 is inconsistent in maintaining good toe-in. I think with that car though, it's down to the tires - those hard tires go all over the place and the car doesn't track well at all. I received some new rubber tires for that car, so I'll try those to see if I experience the issue.
But what I would suggest is to remove the wheels and tires, and the shocks and see if the suspension moves free. If it doesn't you can use a bit of lube or grease on the joints - this will help keep the suspension from binding which sometimes effects the toe-in/toe-out. If the suspension seems fine you might want to consider upgrading to adjustable upper arms so you can adjust the toe manually.
I hope that helps.
@@RCRacingLegends this helps a lot!! Thank you good sir!!
Hello! Just yesterday I bought those two cars for me and my friend he had a birthday and I didn’t noticed that they’re that different, he choosed k989 so k969 is mine and I will be weary thankful and interested if you will make evolution of k969 echo car! That’s a great video again!
Glad you liked the video, and I hope your friend enjoyed his birthday gift (wish him a Happy Birthday from R/C Racing Legends!)
As for the K969, I do plan to focus my modification efforts on that car soon (I have a couple of other R/C projects in the works I'd like to get done first), and I will be making several videos as I go so stay tuned for those.
In all honesty, whichever of the two cars you start with, they're both great in their own way. Neither is really better or worse than the other... they're just a bit different, that's all. And any modifications you make to one, you can do to the other but they'll both be a lot of fun.
@@RCRacingLegends that’s true:) thank you a lot!))
Thanks for your explanations, I ordered both (-;
Great video! Thanks so much! I really want to get myself either the K989 or the K969. The only thing putting me off is the Lipo battery. I know it is crazy, but I worry about fire. Granted, I know little to nothing about lipo batteries other than hearing they can create a fire. Any info on this would be epic! Thanks again!
Glad you like the video.
Honestly, I think the whole LiPo battery fire thing is a tiny bit over hyped. Obviously it's necessary to take the necessary precautions when charging LiPo batteries, but in the grand scheme of things LiPo fires are actually quite rare when you consider the number of LiPo batteries that have been manufactured over the years (and I'm not just talking about the RC hobby). LiPo battery fires start due to thermal runaway from one of two factors: internal degradation or physical damage (puncture). If you don't do anything stupid like try to puncture a LiPo, then physical damage isn't going to be an issue. Internal degradation is caused when a LiPo battery isn't properly maintained over a long period of time (ie. not balance charged, repeatedly drained below 3.2v per cell, and stored at the improper voltage when not in use).
Now I should mention, since getting both the K969 and K989 I've only used the included USB charger to charge the batteries (which I don't think is a balance charger). I'm assuming the ESC has the proper low voltage cutoff for the included LiPo batteries, but I've never confirmed this. And I often go days if not weeks between running these cars. Basically, I've done all the things you SHOULDN'T do with a LiPo battery since getting these cars, and I haven't experienced any issues at all. Don't get me wrong, I really should be charging them with a proper balance charger while using a fire-proof charging bag or charging box, and then discharging them to a safe storage voltage for periods when I won't be using the cars for a while in order to maintain the batteries properly. And these are things I DEFINITELY do with my larger 1/10 scale sized LiPo battery packs. My point is these small LiPo batteries don't need to be babied the way you might think.
If you're holding back on buying one (or both) of these cars because of your inexperience with LiPo batteries, don't let that be the case. Go ahead and buy one! Trust me, there's nothing to fear and you won't regret it at all. If it makes you feel better, get yourself an inexpensive fire proof charging bag at the same time, and you'll be more than covered. Eventually, if this is a hobby want to continue to pursuit, I would suggest getting a better quality balance charger to help maintain and preserve these LiPo batteries. But my guess is that this will be a natural progression anyway since you'll be looking to upgrade to newer and better cars with larger capacity (and more expensive) batteries.
I hope that helps alleviate your fears.
@@RCRacingLegends Thank you so much for taking the time to reply. You've definitely convinced me to go for it! I think a fire retardent bag to store and charge the batteries will make me feel a lot better. And you are indeed correct, the bug has bitten and I'm sure this will be one of many Lipos I get. Thanks for the great info and help!
@@JustinLevitt12 Glad I could help.
Honestly, as long as you look after your LiPo batteries the right way: don't puncture them, use a good balance charger, don't run them below 3.2-3.4v per cell, use a fire retardant pouch when charging, and store them properly, you'll get years of risk-free use out of your LiPos.
I hope you enjoy your new WLToys RC!
I used to feel the same way but you totally have to just push your self with those things if your going to want awesome power! So even though it’s been 2 years since you put that I hope you evolved and pushed your lipo knowledge to the limits 🤘it’s really quite simple it’s all about learning it
Great 👍🤩👍💎💯
Thank you so much for the video, I was going crazy trying to find why the front diff on my K969 didn't work... Who thought a locked front diff was a good idea? Luckily there's a one way diff on order :)
Glad you found the video useful.
It's actually normal for the front diff to be locked on AWD drift cars. The one-way diff you ordered will be no different, except it will free wheel on reverse but be locked when going forward. Generally speaking that's what's preferred for drifting an AWD car.
@@RCRacingLegends Funny, because all of my 1/10 RC cars have a working front diff. Does that mean every 1/28 RC constantly understeers? How would I stop it from doing that?
Not all 1/10 scale RCs have locked front diffs. Only true drift RC cars typically have locked (or one-way) front diffs.
As for the constant under steer you're experiencing with the K969, yes it's the locked front diff that causes that (along with the slick plastic tires).
@@RCRacingLegends Cool, makes sense. So should I just put a proper diff in the front or should I put the one way in? Thank you.
Since you've already ordered the one-way, you might as well try that to see if it alleviates the problem. If not, then you could try a regular open-diff, or even converting the car to RWD and eliminate the front diff all together.
Thank you :-)
You're very welcome. I hope you've found it useful and informative.
@@RCRacingLegends ; Yes quite . I didn't know there was such a big difference between these two models! Thanks again :-)
Nice video!!!!
Can i add a gyro in that stock system?
I have no specific experience adding a stand-alone gyro for one of these K969 or K989 RC cars, so I can't definitively say whether one can be added. However, there are several 1/24 1/28 gyros available on the market that may work. Check out sites like Banggood or Aliexpress for some inexpensive options from Dasmikro or AGFRC.
The issue I see here is these cars use a 2-in-1 transmitter/ESC combo which may or may not allow the use of a gyro. This is why most folks who want to drift these little cars typically swap out the stock electronics with better aftermarket items.
Gracias por el video. Estaba mirando estos modelos y vi varios videos en youtube pero nadie explicó la diferencia que tú dices y que es muy importante, el porsche es un coche drifting y el otro es de rally . Diferentes neumáticos y diferentes diferenciales. Gracias por la información . El único incoveniente que veo en este vídeo es que es un poco largo: podrías haber explicado lo mismo en la mitad de tiempo y sería un video más ameno.
Me alegro de que le haya gustado el video y lo haya encontrado útil.
Tienes razón, el video es largo y podría haber hecho un mejor trabajo explicando las cosas en mucho menos tiempo. Pero es el primer video que he hecho, así que tendrás que perdonarme.
I just got a 284131 and i have a k969 and 284161 on the way too, for all three i paid $115 with a extra two batteries. I noticed that on the 284131the differential pinion gears are metal and it has screws in the lower ball joints to keep the from popping out. Hopefully they updated the k989 too, the 284161 definitely has the upgrades as well as a heatsink for the motor.
Большое спасибо вам за проведенную работу! Потратил много времени чтобы найти данную информацию! Больше искал отличия между моделями 248131 и K969, но и данной информацией был удовлетворен! Спасибо!
Пожалуйста. Я рад, что вы нашли видео полезным.
284131 в основном такой же, как K989, поэтому это сравнительное видео все еще актуально.
In case anyone wants to know, the body is PC(PolyCarbonate).
If you change the tires on the k989 to drift tires, will it be as good as a stock k969 at drifting or do i need to do other mods on it?
Well, that sort of depends on what you consider to be "good". The K969 has locked differentials, making it very easy to get into a drift, but that also makes it a bit more difficult to control especially if you're inexperienced at RC drifting. If you put drift tires on the K989, it would have about the same amount of grip as the stock K969 tires, but with the open differentials, it may be a bit easier to control for a novice. That doesn't mean it's not as "good" as the K969, it's just different. A well-experienced RC drift driver would say the locked diffs of the K969 are better for drifting. But I'm not at that level so I can't say whether one is better than the other.
Personally, I think if you got the K989 and put a set of DS Racing LF-4 or LF-5 tires, you'd have a fine drift car that you can learn on. Once you get a bit more experience at RC drifting and you get better at it, you'll probably want to look at mods like CS gearing, one-way front differential, locked rear differential, and upgrades to the electronics to provide better control.
I hope that helps.
"thanks for tuning in" lol dont say that. really it is thank YOU for making this video. congrats on a new sub and a like and one small question, do the bodies fit on the other car (like does the k969 body fit on the k989 chassis vice versa) and if so l want the k969 (porsche) and want the ford body so is the a adaptor or something to fit the body on the back since on the k989 the back of the body is higher. thanks
Glad you liked the video and found it useful. And thanks for the sub.
As for the bodies, yes the two bodies are interchangeable, however, the body mounting posts are different between the two cars. The front mounting posts are the same, however, the rear mounting posts are different to accommodate the difference in height. So if you wanted to swap bodies between the two cars, you'd need to unbolt and install the appropriate rear body posts. I'm sure a suitable adaptor could be designed and made to work in the rear using the lower K969 body posts, but I've never seen an existing one.
I hope that answers your question.
@@RCRacingLegends thx for the fast reply i will look in to it
@@RCRacingLegends wow i searched up "wltoys k989 rear body mount" and for many 8 packs (4 front 4 rear for only 5 pounds/dollars so i will buy the k969 and the k989 boddy along with the adaptors ! thanks
That's one of the best things about these 1/28 scale cars from WLToys, spare parts are extremely inexpensive.
Best of luck with the K969. It's a fun car, especially if you're interested in drifting. Consider ordering a set of alloy wheels as well, that way you can experiment with different tires as you progress.
@@RCRacingLegends so i am going to buy it as my first hobby grade rc car and i love drifting! can you recommend me any wheels and/or tyres (cheap please as im only a teen)as im new to rc drifting. thanks again! :)
How did you get along? We need a 6 month update and a vid of you drifting them 👍
I did post a small update video showing the first modification you should do if you get one of these cars. But I'm actually waiting on a set of drift tires to arrive so I can try them out and make a video about them. I have a feeling the stock drift tires on the K969 aren't great compared to what's available on the market. Stay tuned it's coming shortly.
Thank you I have them both
Nice! Which is your favorite?
@@RCRacingLegends both
@@anthonyingramingram6388 They're both great in their own way.
A pack of better decals to cover some of the ridiculous logos would be a good idea. I bet a cricut machine could do it. I am thinking of getting one of these. It's fun to drift indoors and chase my cats around
That's actually not a bad suggestion at all. Personally, I'm planning to install a Kyosho Mini-Z body. FAR better looking, way more scale, and it eliminates the crappy decals and the body posts and pins.
RC Racing Legends we plan on getting a cricut eventually. Sheets of sticky vinyl cost practically nothing
@@wowomg1980 I've looked into those Cricut machines. They're very cool, and there's a lot of different things you can do with them. I just can't justify the price of one as I'm not really all that sure I'd get much use out of it. But I have friends who have them and they love and use them all the time.
I just bought mine, watching this video for validation lol
Nice! Which one did you buy?
@@RCRacingLegends the ken block joint, i already got some upgrades coming in too
Sweet! What upgrades are you doing to yours?
I noticed that the back body mount on k989 is a bit taller than the one on the the k969, can u adjust it?
You're correct, the body mount of the k989 is indeed taller than the mount on the K969 to accommodate the taller Ford Focus body vs the low 911 body. And no, unfortunately the mounts on either car aren't adjustable - they're a fixed height.
I think I will buy the k969 because I am very interested in both drift and speed.
do you think this is the right choice?
and i also wanted to ask if the speed is the same in both models.
that said a very nice and well made video
If you're looking to drift then the K969 is certainly a good choice. However, if you're also looking for speed, then you're going to be disappointed. Not because the K969 isn't capable of being fast, but because drift cars themselves aren't fast. Take a look at any R/C drifting and it's not fast at all. In fact, it's typically quite slow (especially compared to true high-speed R/C racing). This is because the tires are hard plastic, setup to slip and slide around; they have extremely low grip so getting any sort of speed with them is difficult. Now, you can get speed out of the K969 but you'll need to change to a rubber tire (like what you find on the K989), but when you do that it won't drift very well as there will be a lot of grip to overcome.
As for the speed between the two models, technically yes they are the same since they have the same gears, the same motors, the same battery, and the diameter of the tires are (pretty much) the same. The big difference is the amount of grip from the stock tires. The K969 has extremely low grip since the drift tires are hard plastic, so putting the power down isn't easy. Good for drifting, but bad if you want to go really fast in a controlled manner. The opposite is true for the K989, with it's rubber tires it's extremely quick for such a small car, but has too much grip to be a good drift car.
I hope that helped and didn't confuse you too much.
I realised that if I was looking for more speed and therefore more grip, a tyre such as the
k989 which, however, has far too much grip for drifters like the k969.
thank you very much for everything
@@fishjr.2405 Exactly!
R/C is a balancing act between grip and speed. Drift tires have very little grip so drift cars aren't going to be very fast (and when they DO get going fast, there's very little control because the tires have no grip). The same goes for rubber tires. With loads of grip, it makes it near impossible to drift. That's why when someone says, "I want a car that can drift but is also fast", it's difficult to make a suggestion because these two characteristics are on either end of the spectrum as to what's possible. The only real solution is to buy two sets of wheels and tires: one for drifting and one for high-speed running. Which you can do wheither you decide to buy the K969 or the K989.
@@RCRacingLegends perfect
@@fishjr.2405
I saw a video of Rx sailors and he put scotch tape on the green k989 and it drifted just fine best of both worlds however I’m gonna pull the trigger on both LOL or one each for me and my gal so if I want to drift some cheap dollar store tape or left over tape from Xmas is always laying around some where but check out the video trust me problem solved hope this helps ..
So which one would you recommend for just bashing around inside the house.
Easily the K989 Touring Car. Far more versatile than the K969 Drift car.
Can I block the diferencials of the k989? Nice video !!!
Thanks, glad you like the video.
If you mean lock the differential(s) of the K989, yes you can. I think the easiest way to do so is to dismantle the diff itself, cut a circular piece of paper to fit where the pinion gears are located, cover the pinion gears using that piece of paper (no need for glue), then bolt the diff back together and it should be pretty much locked.
I hope that made sense. If not, I believe Beaver's Hobby Channel did a video on this, which I'm sure will do a far better job of explaining it.
Another option is to dismantle the diffs and simply load them up with really heavy grease. It won't lock them completely, but it'll be pretty close.
I was gonna buy one of these but the price went upi $20 and I'm not paying that much for an RC that needs diffs and CV axles to operate smoothly.
Yeah I kind of agree. I think when I bought these the price was less than $50 each. Which isn't bad even considering everything they need just to get them running "ok". But if the price has gone up by $20 each I say consider something else that's a bit more sorted out of the box.
How many batterys are included in the box? Thanks (obviously not aa, batterys for thr car)
The cars I purchased included one 400mAh 2S LiPo battery per vehicle. However, depending on where you purchase, you can buy them with two batteries per vehicle. I do know banggood.com does at times sell these with more than one battery (obviously the price will be higher to reflect the additional battery).
Hope that answers your question.
In the drift car I would try a open diff from the rally car on the front and see what happens
I want to try a couple of different setups in the drift car, including open diff in front (like you suggested), one-way diff, and then ultimately I think remove the front diff entirely and just go RWD with it. I have a feeling that will probably give the best results (control) for drifting.
But first, I want to experiment with tires. I have some new tires on their way so hopefully soon I'll be posting a video about that experiment.
Hello, very educational video. I want to get into drift rc. Do you think it will be a great ideal to get K989 with drift tires on to learn how to drift for bigger rc like 1/10 scale? Instead of just getting the K969...
Thanks, glad you liked the video.
This is a great question and one I've sort of struggled with myself a bit. Getting a K989 with a set of drift wheels and tires will probably prove to be the least expensive option to learn how to drift. That's not to say the K969 isn't a good drift car out of the box, but I think the open differentials of the K989 make it a bit easier to deal with as you learn. Plus the stock drift tires that come with the K969 aren't great so you'll more than likely be looking to replace those with better ones anyway.
However, I do have to stress you will need a fair bit of room - even though these cars are small - to learn how to drift properly. Don't be fooled by videos you've seen here on UA-cam where folks show these cars drifting on a coffee table or what looks like a tiny space. These folks generally have experience drifting and have mastered the art of R/C car control. They make it look easy, but it's not especially if you're just starting out. One day when you get good, you'll be able to mimic what you see here on UA-cam, but in the beginning you're going to need a fair bit of room. And I should also mention, because these cars are small, it's highly advisable that you use them indoors instead of outdoors.
1/10 scale RC is awesome and I'd think that would be your ultimate goal to move into. The trouble is it can get really expensive. $1,500 for a properly sorted RC drift car isn't unheard of. However, there are deals out there if you're willing to look and you're careful where you spend your money. The trouble with 1/10 scale RC is that they require even more room to learn how to drift properly. But they do have the advantage that they can be used outside as well as indoors.
I hope that helps.
@@RCRacingLegends i have learned so much by just chating with you. Thank you for you deal reply
You're very welcome. And I'm glad I could help! 😀
The wheels have the same mounting as the 4wd Mini-Z. 2wd Mini-Zs are completely different.
Yes, both of these models use the same mounting as the 4WD Kyosho Mini-Z models. The 2WD Mini-Z models use a different mounting system that won't work with these WLToys cars.
I think I do mention it in the video... around the 19:30 mark if I recall correctly... but it is an important point to note, and one I probably should have highlighted a bit more.
Do i get rubber Tires with ford focus one ?
Yes the K989 (the Ford Focus model) comes with knobby rubber tires. They're soft and have decent grip. My experience has been that they are difficult to get them to slip for drifting in any sort of controlled way. But for regular driving they seem pretty good.
I hope that helps.
i got the k969 with a gyro works perfect
Nice! Which gyro did you get?
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What other bodies fit them. Cant find any
You should be able to fit other WLToys 1/28 scale bodies to these cars, however the body posts may need to be lengthened or shortened in order to make them work. I believe you can find WLToys bodies on banggood.com
However, if you're looking to mount a Mini-Z body, then you'll need to make a few modifications as Mini-Z bodies don't use body posts to mount to their respective chassis; these WLToys were never designed to take a Mini-Z body but it can be done. I should also mention, only a few Mini-Z bodies will clear the front suspension so you'll be limited in your selection.
Beaver's Hobby channel here on UA-cam has made a great video showing the process of mounting a Mini-Z body to one of these WLToys chassis. He talks about suspension clearances, and what's needed to be modified in order to make it work. I strongly suggest checking it out if you haven't already.
Now, if you're feeling really adventurous, you could fit a 1/25 scale static model body (like Tamiya, Revel/Monogram, Hasagawa, etc...) onto one of these cars. You'd have to do a bit of research to find a vehicle whose wheelbase will fit the WLToys car (remember, the WLToys car wheelbase comes stock at 98mm but can be elongated to 102mm so you do have some flexibility) but it's potentially an option if you're willing to get some styrene and make custom mounts; use rare earth magnets to hold the body in place so you don't have to drill holes.
I hope that helps.
I just bought 3 k969 cars and 3 sets of grippy tyres. I’m planning on racing them with friends. Did I make a mistake? On a wooden floor surface btw.
Absolutely not, I think you and your friends will have a lot of fun racing these cars. The grippy tyres will change the way the cars perform and handle when compared to the hard drift tyres, but certainly not in a bad way. I'd suggest trying both sets to see which you and your friends find more fun. Then maybe experiment by putting grippy tires up front and drift tyres in the rear or vice versa. I think you and your friends are in for a lot of fun with these cars and you definitely didnt make a mistake.
Thanks for the fast reply! On my real car (c7 corvette) I set it up for a bit more oversteer on track, during lockdown can’t go to any circuits though so it’s rc for me lol. What do I need if I decide to change the diff? I’ve heard you can’t turn as sharply compared to the K989, but I think I’m more into that feel anyway. I guess what I’m asking is what do I miss out on with the diff and will this affect the fun? Thanks
The turning angle between the K969 and K989 is the same, the only difference is the tires which may account for any difference. You can modify the turning angle (on either car) a bit by simply moving the steering arm to the second hole on the steering horn (I have a video here on the channel showing how to do that). It's a simple and free mod and makes a big difference.
As for the diffs, if you go with a replacement WLToys unit, it's a simple plug-n-play operation. I would suggest dismantling the new diffs, cleaning and greasing then up well before installing as part quality can sometimes be a bit sketchy. But all in all they're a cheap upgrade. I believe you can also use the Sinohobby diffs as well without any modifications, just plug-n-play. If you go for a Kyosho Mini-Z diff, you'll need to use longer swing (drive) shafts because the drive cups of the mini-z diffs aren't as long as the ones used on the WLToys diffs. Unfortunately I don't think the longer swing shafts are available anymore (they were made and sold by Atomic RC at one point).
Thanks, if I want the 969s set up for racing should I replace only front with ball diff and leave rear solid for a bit of a compromise or change everything? Also can I just swap the tyres off the stock rims as I please or do I need to get another set of rims? Looking at this based on reviews m.banggood.com/WLtoys-Upgrade-Ball-Adjustable-Differential-For-128-K929-K939-K969-K979-K989-K999-RC-Car-p-1395101.html
I'll answer your tyre question first. As of right now, I've never tried to remove the hard plastic tires off the stock wheels that came with the K969, but I don't think it's a very easy operation. My strong advice would be to get another set of wheels to use with the grippy tyres you've purchased. I personally have this set from banggood.com and I can definitely recommend them:
www.banggood.com/4PCS-Wltoys-Metal-Hub-RC-Car-Wheel-128-For-K989-And-IW04M-RC-Car-p-1358224.html?cur_warehouse=CN&ID=228&rmmds=search
There are a number of different wheels available online that will fit these WLToys including 4WD Mini-Z wheels (I believe you'll want 0 offset versions) so you have a lot of options. By using a separate set of wheels with the grippy tires, it'll give you the opportunity to swap between the rubber and hard drift tires far quicker than if you tried to remove the hard drift tires from the wheels each time. Drift tires typically need to be heated up (either using a hair dryer or boiling water) to get them to expand enough to fit over the wheel, so constant removal and reinstallation is not easy or recommended.
As for your question regarding fitting ball diffs to the front, I would strongly suggest that you first run the cars as they come before swapping differentials. You may find that they're just fine for the type of racing you and your friends will be doing without making any changes. However, if you're finding that the cars are difficult to control or have far too much oversteer, then you should consider swapping the rear diffs in each car with ball diffs in order to improve control. Conversely, if you're finding the cars are understeering too much, swapping in ball diffs for the front axles may help solve that problem. But I wouldn't suggest blindly spending the money on new ball diffs for each vehicle without driving and learning the cars as they come out of the box first.
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What is it called again the tool to remove the wheels?
The tool needed to remove the wheels is a 4mm hex socket or nut driver.
@@RCRacingLegends do you know were to get it?
Any decent hobby store will have one. If you don't have a hobby store close by, you should be able to find one at any hardware store. Failing that you can easily find them online on eBay or Amazon.
Look up "RC hex cross wrench" online and you'll find them.
Their speeds are same?Can I drive like k989 with drift tire?
Yes the speeds of the two cars are basically the same, since they have the same motor, battery, and gears.
And yes, you can buy drift tires to fit the K989. Any 4WD Mini-Z wheels and tires will fit either of these cars (but they have to be the 4WD versions, the 2WD won't work).
Hope that helps.
@@RCRacingLegends thanks
@@RCRacingLegends Can I drive k969 with k989 at same place?
This is a very good question.
The K989 has knobby rubber tires, which work well on almost any surface except for maybe very shaggy carpet. They have decent grip and I've found they don't slide very easy at all; I've found it very difficult to drift the K989 with the stock rubber tires.
The K969, on the other hand, has hard plastic tires with no tread on them at all. The K969 has very low traction which is why it can drift very easily. But this makes the K969 a smooth surface vehicle ONLY. Hardwood, tile, smooth concrete, and extremely low-pile carpet floors are all fine for the K969, but running outside on pavement is probably not going to work.
Ultimately, if you want a versatile car that can tackle a more varied terrain, get the K989. And if you buy a separate set of drift wheels and tires you can enjoy drifting on smooth surfaces as well.
Please do another 989 or 969 video!!!!
I'm planning to do one soon. The K969 / K989 video is easily the most popular video I've posted since starting the channel. Democracy at work! LOL!!
@@RCRacingLegends Can't wait.🔥
I just bought myself the k989 and got the drift tires for it as it’s based on ken blocks ford just waiting on it arriving
Nice! Congratulations, I'm sure you're really going to enjoy it. Which drift tires did you go with? Did you get new rims as well or just tires?
RC Racing Legends I just got kyosho mini z tires and and the rims are kyosho aswell got ones that resemble ken blocks the most should be here very soon all my mates have ordered the car too ahah
That's awesome. You guys are going to have a lot of fun with these cars.
@@EzRiotz i ordered the k989 too and got some drift tires for it and i am waiting for it to arrive
i may be locking the diff tho
Is k989 is AWD?
Yes, both the K969 and K989 are all wheel drive (AWD).
For only the drifting, which one is better, Sir?
If you're only interested in drifting, then out of the box the better car is the K969. With it's locked diffs and smooth drift tires, this car is easy to get to drift with virtually no effort at all.
In saying that, if you're new to drifting, then these characteristics can make driving the car a tiny bit frustrating at first. It's nothing that would make me say "don't buy it", but instead to say you'll need to take your time and get used to driving a drift car.
But if you're used to driving drift R/C cars, and that's exactly what you're looking for, then the K969 is definitely the way to go.
@@RCRacingLegends Thank you very much for your detail and fully technical advises what I am looking for, I am the beginner :)
@@luoncuoihaha4342 You're welcome, glad to help. Like I said, even if you're a beginner if what you're looking for is to drift (or learn to drift) the K969 is a good choice. Just keep in mind it's going to take a bit of practice to get used to it.
You could also purchase a set of wheels and rubber tires when you purchase a K969 as well. That way, if you want to switch between the two types of tires as you learn it's an inexpensive way to avoid any frustration you may encounter with the drift tires alone.
I got both lol together their cheaper then one mini z so you can play with a friend
That's the biggest appeal of these 1/28 WLToys R/C cars - they're really inexpensive! Especially compared to Kyosho Mini-Z cars which typically cost close to $200 for even the least expensive ones.
Enjoy your WLToys cars R/Cs! They're a lot of fun with plenty of room to grow and improve.
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разница только в покрышках и корпусе?
Различия заключаются в корпусах, шинах и дифференциалах.
anyone know any trusted US sellers or sites that sell parts, the more the better. Lol I just dont want to have to wait 2 months anytime I wanna get some parts. Thanks everyone! Cant wait to get my car, I see wltoys has a big website with tons of parts. But just looking for something closer
Unfortunately, I don't know of any US-based spare parts sellers who specifically stock WLToys parts, particularly for the K969 or K989 cars. I've always just bought from banggood.com and did the waiting game. But shipping times have been getting better the last little while.
Personally I don't think you'll see a US-based seller because these cars are not popular in small scale competitive racing. However, with that said, there are a number of parts that you can use from Mini-Z, Atomik, GL Racing, and several other small-scale RC cars. Things 4WD Mini-Z wheels and tires are usable with these WLtoys cars, as well as differentials and bearings. Even Mini-Z bodies can be fitted to these WLToys cars.
@@RCRacingLegends awesome thanks for your help! And yes it's hard to find out if what your ordering is even rubber lol. I'm just gonna stock with ur shop I dont mind waiting I just know the k969 comes with plastic tires and I just dont like that. I want rubber drift tires and some cool trims would be a bonus lol but I plan on switching out most parts for metal and other upgrades. But I'm a newbie lol
If any1 knows what parts are best to switch out first on k969 to perform it's best for drifting courses? ThNks!
@@akirahinata9085 Rubber tires are not typically used for drifting unless you can find some really hard rubber tires and even then I doubt you'll find anything at this scale (maybe for 1/10 drifter cars). The only time rubber tires are can drift at this scale is if you're driving the car on a really dusty floor.
With that said though, you can get better plastic drift tires than the ones that come stock with the K969. DS Racing makes some nice ones in both narrow and wide and they come in varying degrees of traction too. Kyosho also makes drift tires for their Mini-Zs which can be used on the WToys cars as long as you mount them on 4WD Mini-Z wheels.
@@akirahinata9085 Before spending any money on alloy parts or brushless motor upgrade or anything like that, the three things I'd recommend you do are as follows:
1. Perform the steering modification, moving the steering arm to the second hole on the servo horn. I have a video on the channel here showing how to do it. It makes a noticeable difference.
2. Remove the spring spacers from each shock. These are small plastic C-shaped pieces located above each spring. These are easy to remove and will soften the suspension a bit allowing better weight transfer when initiating a drift or changing direction.
3. Get a set of Kyosho 4WD Mini-Z wheels (3.5mm offset) and a set of DS Racing Mini LF-1 or Mini LF-4 (or even Mini LF-5) drift tires. You can find both on eBay. These are far better than the stock wheels and tires that come with the K969.
Two of the three upgrades above are free and the third won't cost much at all. But doing these will help set up the car so you can learn how to drift. Drifting is a real skill and not one that will come easy. It will take time and practice, and no amount of upgrades/hop-ups/alloy bits/etc... is going to make the car drift better or easier, nor will it make you a better drift driver. It's all about practice.
Hope that helps.
What is lexon?
Lexan is a clear polycarbonate plastic typically used to make R/C bodies. The word Lexan itself is a brand name (sort of like Kleenex or Band-Aid). I probably should have said polycarbonate instead; I'm just used to saying Lexan when taking about R/C bodies. Sorry about the confusion.
@@RCRacingLegends I know what Lexan is... You said lexon. Lex-on...
I can only blame that on my poor pronunciation of vowels I suppose.
I wish the k989 had the wheels om from the k969
Do you mean the tires?
The wheels themselves (the white bits) are the same between the two cars. The difference is the black rubber (or in the case of the K969 the plastic) tires. And unfortunately, I don't think you can buy just the stock WLToys tires from the K969 and fit them to the K989. However, you can buy aftermarket drift tires and fit them to he K989 - there are lots to choose from.
But you do raise an interesting idea - maybe I'll take the drift wheels and tires from the K969 and put them onto the K989 and see how it performs.
RC Racing Legends yes i mean the tires i would have loved it if the drift tires where on the k989 then i would buy it
Który jest lepszy?
To zależy od tego, czego chcesz. Jeśli chcesz samochód do driftu i wiesz, czego się spodziewać, kup K969. Jeśli dopiero zaczynasz hobby lub chcesz samochodu, który jest łatwy w prowadzeniu, zdobądź K989. Oba są bardzo dobre.
¿Se puede intercambiar la carcasa de uno a otro?
Si por el caso te refieres a las carrocerías, entonces sí se pueden intercambiar. Sin embargo, los postes de la carrocería son diferentes entre los dos automóviles para adaptarse a las diferentes alturas de carrocería.
Espero que eso ayude.
@@RCRacingLegends ¿pero se puede cambiar los postes de uno a otro?
@@marcosdelmoralpalacios1170 Sí, puede cambiar las publicaciones de un automóvil a otro.
Incluso puede comprar postes de reemplazo si solo compra un automóvil y compra el otro cuerpo.
@@RCRacingLegends gracias amigo ¿y cual es mejor para ti? me gustaría saberlo, muchas gracias máquina👍🏾
@@marcosdelmoralpalacios1170 Ambos autos son muy buenos. Si puede comprar ambos, obtenga ambos. Pero si solo puedes comprar uno, te sugiero el K989. Creo que es más versátil, muy rápido y se puede modificar fácilmente para derrapar si eso es lo que quieres hacer.
Wanted the k969, k989 was thirty dollars cheaper. Damn drift tax
When I bought both of mine the difference in price was literally $3, which is why I just went with both.
@@RCRacingLegends yea, i'm sure it's a demand thing. You know how banggood can be. Still, looking forward to putting some hard slicks on the k989, hopefully it is squirrely enough after that so i don't have to modify the diffs. Not my cup of tea
With slicks, the difference between the K969 vs K989 is so small that unless you're a season drift driver, you'd never notice the difference, so I wouldn't worry about locking diffs and front one-ways. Just run the car as it is out of the box.
If you're looking for drift tire options, I'd suggest getting a set of Kyosho Mini-Z wheels (4WD only as the 2WD won't work with the WLToys hubs) and either a set of DSRacing drift tires or Kyosho drift tires. Just make sure that if you get narrow wheels you get narrow tires (same goes if you get wide wheels).
@@RCRacingLegends thats really helpful! Relieving to hear because i was kind of guessing when i got an awd alloy set of mini z wheels
As long as they're meant for 4WD Mini Z cars they'll work just fine
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Makes me laugh out loud every single time I read it on the car.
Touring car ??? Are you kidding me??
That's how it's been marketed by WLToys. But I agree with you, it's not a touring car at all. But it's also not really a drift car either, even though that's what most people try to do with it (the stock rubber tires have way too much grip for it to drift properly). It's not really an off-road car either. Maybe it's better to refer to it as a rally car...?
long story short diffs are blocked on one ...
You forgot the hard plastic tires.
And the obviously different body and body posts too.
But you're right. It was a very long video. With crap video quality and even worse audio. It was also the very first video I ever made. I had no clue what I was doing but felt it was important to talk about the differences between the two cars since at that time I hadn't found any other videos on the internet that talked about it (at least, not in English).
I apologize if you were forced to sit through the entire video to figure out what the differences were. But hey, if you learned something from the video, that's great. If not, then feel free to not subscribe and not watch another one of my videos again.
@@RCRacingLegends sensitive ... i said nothing, you said it all lol. what i wanted to say, not commenting on your video actually, only real important difference is diffs, the rest is only add-ons so chill ... if u want me to comment on the video, than yes bit too long with lots of repeating yourself, but who am i to judge ... i would take them for a spin so people can see the real difference where is important, while driving on track. cheers
I apologize, I didn't mean to come off as sensitive. And trust me, I genuinely appreciate the feedback. As I said, you're right, it was a long video that could have been summed up in about a minute: "Locked diffs vs. open diffs, rubber tires vs. hard plastic tires. One car does the slippy slide, the other one doesn't. Thanks for watching." To the point.
But like I said, it's my first video. It's terrible (I'm the first to say it). I'm not a seasoned UA-camr with hundreds of hours of filming under their belt. But I've been trying to get better with respect to providing useful content without dragging things on. In fact, if you're so inclined, I invite you to check some of my later videos and let me know what you think.
And I agree, a running video would have probably been FAR more useful. Unfortunately, my current location/situation doesn't really allow me the opportunity to run and film at the same time, which is why you don't see a lot of running videos on my channel. But I'm hoping to change that soon.
@@RCRacingLegends u missed the point, what i was trying to say in the first place was not commenting or refering to your video at all but was just trying to stress out that the only real structural mechanical difference is diffs. the rest you can just switch between one and the other. my second comment on your video is the topic you started on your own, unprovoked. perhaps my english is not good enought to explain it correctly ...
@@RCRacingLegends and here i checked other videos as u suggested and first one i found was a 7 min video about moving one screw on the servo horn from one hole to the other... hmm ... think it's time for me to stop now ...