2024 Van Rysel RCR Review - Tarmac in Disguise?

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  • Опубліковано 27 сер 2024

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  • @RobertJWaid
    @RobertJWaid Місяць тому +28

    Nice review. It’s great to see someone else in this space to force prices back to earth.

  • @Mazza-u7o
    @Mazza-u7o Місяць тому +20

    It would be nice if you could also review the Van Rysel NCR or EDR. These are more realistic bikes for most of us.

  • @f1fanatic710
    @f1fanatic710 Місяць тому +10

    Most modern bikes look a like. What separates them is the carbon layup and types of carbon in specific areas. Good review

    • @LucaBonato
      @LucaBonato Місяць тому +4

      Most bikes come to the same chinese manifacturer. So just pick your favourite

  • @csarcpab
    @csarcpab Місяць тому +11

    Sounds great to buy as a frame kit and build it with some nice lightweight budget components

    • @gafk2975
      @gafk2975 Місяць тому +3

      Price of frame is the best thing about this bike. It costs around 2700? EUR and you get the same frame the pros use. For comparison, the Sworks Tarmac frame the pros use costs like 5500 EUR and other brands aren't that far off in terms of prices. You can basically build an amazing bike with electronic shifting and carbon wheels for around 5k that rivals those that are over 10k.
      I just hope the frames come with more color options. The abyss green one looks sick in person.

    • @gloopann
      @gloopann Місяць тому +1

      Correct me if I am wrong, but AFAIK that frameset is the RCR PRO, not the regular RCR. So potentially, if the RCR frameset does release, it should be even cheaper

  • @muratmustafa4532
    @muratmustafa4532 Місяць тому +55

    Let down by the UK prices thanks to the Brexit. The Canyon Aeroad is cheaper than Van Rysel both at medium and top levels.

    • @steve050867
      @steve050867 Місяць тому +8

      So Canyon a German brand isn't affected by BREXIT 😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @drummerman122
      @drummerman122 Місяць тому +2

      The Canyon Aeroad is also cheaper n Spain where I live.

    • @muratmustafa4532
      @muratmustafa4532 Місяць тому +1

      @@drummerman122 still cheaper in the uk than the van rysel. And also come with single piece handlebar which costs more than two piece design.

    • @HNedel
      @HNedel Місяць тому

      Plenty of bikes made in Taiwan or China.

    • @massimoserafini8115
      @massimoserafini8115 Місяць тому +1

      Agreed. Not exactly a “bargain” considering the groupset and the weight. Lots of options out there.

  • @andreapaponi
    @andreapaponi Місяць тому +21

    It’s a copy of SL7 … and this is the reason because it’s very nice bike

  • @victorroussarie5081
    @victorroussarie5081 5 днів тому +1

    I ride the rcr pro team replica, and I'm a bit surprised with your thoughts about the comfort: in my opinion the bike is super comfy, even as a former owner of an ultimate cf sl. The bike is way way stiffer than the canyon at high power, and feels much safer in descent (one of the bad points of the ultimate).

  • @Csapi007
    @Csapi007 Місяць тому +3

    UK prices are crazy! It’s way cheaper to hop on the tunnel and buy it in Europe insread. 😂

  • @bobo8638
    @bobo8638 Місяць тому +10

    4.500, for an 8kg bike (without pedals). How in god's name is this good value. Who cares if other companies are charging 5 or 6 grand. This is still stupid money and if anyone pays it. Then more fools you. This is the reason bikes are so expensive. Tools are paying so much for heavy bikes.

    • @blorg8206
      @blorg8206 Місяць тому +1

      I'm with you, but consider it includes an electronic group, a power meter and Zipp wheels. It's still nuts though, I have 10-15 year old bikes that were much cheaper and much lighter (no discs or clearance for huge tyres though, which I do think is a huge win on modern bikes).

  • @ciulabula1
    @ciulabula1 Місяць тому +2

    It's a great bike none the less, but... where is yours long term review on L Twoo groupset, David? Unless I missed on something

  • @aldrinclementina4297
    @aldrinclementina4297 Місяць тому +5

    I almost jumped of my seat when I saw the car appeared behind the bushes in the corner. 😂 when you was deciding

    • @PatrickLino
      @PatrickLino Місяць тому

      hahahahaha

    • @muratmustafa4532
      @muratmustafa4532 Місяць тому

      @@aldrinclementina4297 pretty common in the UK’s country roads. Happens to me in every two rides. You get used to after a while.

    • @m.talley1660
      @m.talley1660 Місяць тому

      Happened twice - Dave kept calm and rode on 👍

  • @niklaskristensson2231
    @niklaskristensson2231 Місяць тому +1

    Nice looking bike. Cool to see a new brand on the high end. I cant afford it, though...😊

  • @Ghost12561
    @Ghost12561 Місяць тому +1

    We like the critic!

  • @tomaszmarusik157
    @tomaszmarusik157 Місяць тому +2

    It has deda handlebar and deda is measuring end to end and nit cwnter to center so its rather 42 than 44mm handlebar whicj is nirmal for this size

  • @Pompdiepom
    @Pompdiepom Місяць тому +17

    44cm handlebar 🥴

    • @matkrek
      @matkrek Місяць тому +1

      Worst part about top brands, paying top dollar for the least aero cockpit…

    • @lbgstzockt8493
      @lbgstzockt8493 Місяць тому +1

      @@matkrek Not just not aero but also not ergonomic for all but the widest of riders.

  • @marky1974
    @marky1974 6 днів тому

    Any chance of a review of the Cube Agree?

  • @krishnansrinivasan830
    @krishnansrinivasan830 Місяць тому

    Awesome & Thanks :)

  • @mikkelroulund8968
    @mikkelroulund8968 Місяць тому

    Could you also do review on the Cinelli bikes. It’s such a cool company and I like thier “cult” approach to their fan base. Still tehy support the Italien youth teams and a local pro team. Even their old model the superstar seems to have been the frontrunner of the Pinarello top tube design. I’m intrigued but I don’t know if they are any good 😢😂 please 🙏

  • @WL16
    @WL16 Місяць тому +2

    The prices in the US, due to import, aren't as attractive enough compared to other major brands and especially Canyon. This model $1000 more in the US.

    • @efimlos
      @efimlos Місяць тому

      agree not interested in the US

  • @deDANIEL11609
    @deDANIEL11609 27 днів тому

    I rode my NCR CF for 5000km now, does it make sense to get the RCR or RCR Pro, more aero and deeper wheels ?

  • @BlastOff_
    @BlastOff_ Місяць тому +1

    Need release of the FCR 😢

  • @e.anthonyi8054
    @e.anthonyi8054 2 дні тому

    Idk why would i buy a van rysel when the next higher Tier Canyon is same price? 🤷‍♂️

  • @NoahStephens
    @NoahStephens Місяць тому

    I don’t know why bike companies insist on putting wide handlebars on bikes.

  • @HeySers
    @HeySers Місяць тому

    Just want this with a 105 di2 so bad😅

  • @korrol2338
    @korrol2338 Місяць тому

    Are these (aero type) bikes that much faster/better than a bike like the Giant Defy Advanced Pro 0, which you seem very fond of? I’m leaning towards a defy but don’t want to sacrifice performance

    • @davidarthur
      @davidarthur  Місяць тому +1

      They are faster but the Defy is not slow and with deep section wheels it's still a quick bike - and the Defy's position might make it easier to rider faster for longer in more comfort. So unless you're racing or chainganging all the time the Defy won't sacrifice performance for you

  • @C22RLD
    @C22RLD Місяць тому

    this frame vs the latest propel frame for aero performance?

  • @DrSarge37
    @DrSarge37 Місяць тому

    I couldn’t find one of the Decathlon website for £4,500. Looks like the cheapest one for us in the US is $5,500 USD.

    • @arthurfinidori609
      @arthurfinidori609 Місяць тому

      Décathlon has leave the US recently. So it’s imported from Canada

    • @DrSarge37
      @DrSarge37 Місяць тому

      @@arthurfinidori609 🥲🥲 dang that sucks

    • @ryshort7255
      @ryshort7255 Місяць тому

      @@arthurfinidori609 lol this model isn't even on the Canadian site at all

  • @ytb3748
    @ytb3748 Місяць тому +2

    That's definitely a rebadged 'WinSpace' bike
    The frameset is unmistakably WinSpace frame

  • @SwimBikeRunFastest
    @SwimBikeRunFastest Місяць тому

    Reviews on the decathlon website mention squeaks. Whats your opinion on build quality? Is it cheap for a reason?

    • @kierenkd
      @kierenkd 10 днів тому

      Probably need to reseat rear wheel

  • @dominicbritt
    @dominicbritt Місяць тому +2

    It’s funny how those people who railed against “marketing” were well and truly sucked in by bike industry marketing.
    Did people honestly expect a £2000 SL8? 😂
    The fact is that most bike manufactures have pretty standard costs around groupsets and the variation comes from frames and wheel sets.

    • @oliverjacobs8594
      @oliverjacobs8594 Місяць тому

      frame costs specialized about 900 bucks, consumers can buy dura ace for about 2000 euros so I can only imagine what specialized pays for them, they make their own wheel sets and it probably only costs them about 600 bucks. seems like it only really costs them about 3000 euros so yeah, I think its fair to expect the bikes to be about 5k.

  • @Jonathan-vf6cu
    @Jonathan-vf6cu Місяць тому

    Any update on your plans for the damaged Giant TCR frame you bought a few months ago? 👍

    • @davidarthur
      @davidarthur  Місяць тому +2

      Yes, very soon - now the busy period is over of launches I'm back in the workshop building it up

  • @chrisdavis8399
    @chrisdavis8399 Місяць тому +1

    I bought 2 Canyons at different times and they got to Vancouver within a week.

  • @Sutlore007
    @Sutlore007 Місяць тому

    Which ENVE wheels are you using? the top spec one or just a Foundation?

    • @davidarthur
      @davidarthur  Місяць тому

      Same ones as Pogacar, SES 4.5 - I should do a video on them really

  • @neleempatel7002
    @neleempatel7002 Місяць тому +3

    Not really sure what to make of this bike. I think it will fall in value massively on the second hand market. Also I don't know what the buying experience or aftersales care will be like from a big store retailer. I would rather pay the extra to get the street cred, resale value and desirablity of a one of the big brands ie trek, spec, pinarello, etc ,

    • @Ryan.T89
      @Ryan.T89 Місяць тому

      All second hand bikes are worthless as the used market is dead because people can’t finance them and have no warranty.
      I had one of the older 2016 Btwin Ultra CF’s which I rode 5 years and still use for Crit racing. Bikes been faultless and Decaton after sales would put most to shame. When yon consider my S Works SL7 is on its 3rd warrenty frame in just over a year, buying higher end means nothing when it comes to quality.

  • @MrIanD1
    @MrIanD1 Місяць тому +4

    I hate narrow handlebars.

  • @taotracy4431
    @taotracy4431 Місяць тому

    when are you going to talk about the fifty one?

  • @HeyWattsUpCycling
    @HeyWattsUpCycling Місяць тому

    same level of pricing as cannondale trek or canyon in the USA...

  • @ivannagy6427
    @ivannagy6427 Місяць тому +1

    Zipp wheels no go

  • @matkrek
    @matkrek Місяць тому

    Why pay a premium to have to switch out the 44cm bar…

    • @Ca11mero
      @Ca11mero Місяць тому

      Sadly most manufacturers do that, but it's starting to change at least.
      42cm has been standard for size M/54 for a long ass time. 40cm or 38cm would fit a lot more people.

    • @matkrek
      @matkrek Місяць тому

      @@Ca11mero that’s why people are buying more Chinese brands like Winspace and Yoeleo. It’s insane at their price points to not offer some customizability

  • @JustBrowsing777
    @JustBrowsing777 Місяць тому

    So buying an aero bike knowing you'd have to exchange the handlebar because it's nit aero enough. Seems like a really...umm strange choice 🤔

  • @jk-hj6ub
    @jk-hj6ub Місяць тому

    The weight of bike ?

  • @deDANIEL11609
    @deDANIEL11609 27 днів тому

    My sram rival likes to suck the chain, which is crap

  • @OrdinaryJoe12
    @OrdinaryJoe12 Місяць тому

    I love it

  • @DavidtheDoom
    @DavidtheDoom Місяць тому +2

    I want it!
    Decathlon just shut all their stores and web-shop in Sweden...
    My RC520 will have to do and I'll buy something else...

    • @jooohan-i9o
      @jooohan-i9o Місяць тому +1

      Maybe couldn’t infiltrate Stadium and XXL territory:) I think the concept of Decathlon doesn’t really work in Sweden…but I’d like to know the actual reason behind their “retreat”.

    • @DavidtheDoom
      @DavidtheDoom Місяць тому +1

      @@jooohan-i9o Well only stores in Stockholm and really slow deliveries was probably why they did not go home here in Sweden.
      Also, very few sales or campaigns, not even black friday or winter sales of any kinds. People want to feel like they are getting a deal!
      Really bad they are leaving, I could live with 1-2 weeks delivery if I knew that was the case.

    • @jooohan-i9o
      @jooohan-i9o Місяць тому

      @@DavidtheDoom hmmm, strange. Too bad with the bikes, really. Seems like Decathlon and Van Rysel have a good thing going…

  • @el_carbonara
    @el_carbonara Місяць тому +1

    disappointing, why don't they just offer the same team bike. I don't get all the BS of cutting corners for base models. Just do it properly! jesus.Still a complete rip off in price and unjustifiable.

  • @Diffusion8
    @Diffusion8 Місяць тому

    Bikes have gotten way too expensive

  • @littlevo9
    @littlevo9 Місяць тому

    Ça ressemble à un sl7 mais ce ne sera jamais un sl7.

  • @e.anthonyi8054
    @e.anthonyi8054 5 днів тому

    To heavy for its price; should cut at least 500gr off

  • @paveltomsik2610
    @paveltomsik2610 29 днів тому

    Nice bike, but hookless Zipps are pure crap, chinese wheels like Winspace or Elite are like 5 levels above for better price. Buying this bike means reselling wheels immediately, which kinda sucks 😢.

  • @boots8683
    @boots8683 Місяць тому

    Western brand name, quality by Temu.

  • @Lander76
    @Lander76 Місяць тому +3

    Aero benefits you more than light weight on the climbs? Haven't you got this backwards? Aero counts for nothing unless you're going over 25mph and low weight is paramount for a fast climbing bike.

    • @kreed4
      @kreed4 Місяць тому +9

      You are wildly misinformed.

    • @danielt91
      @danielt91 Місяць тому +10

      Aero starts being the major force slowing you down at just 15mph. And you also need to keep in mind that these 15mph are not necessarily the speed you are moving at. If you have oncoming wind at 5mph and you are going at more than 10mph, the combined drag is once again more than 15mph which makes the aero important.

    • @kreed4
      @kreed4 Місяць тому +1

      @@Macuhdohnadadoh True, bike marketers gotta market, but this question is settled. Aero is better than light (outside of long, steep climbs), but Aero + Light > Aero, which is where bike marketers have moved to now. No where else to go but more aero + more light (which is what we’ll see).

    • @kreed4
      @kreed4 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@Macuhdohnadadoh 100%! Fit for purpose is always best, though if you are going to make generalized comparisons, you have to exclude environment/personal preference/drafting/etc, and I think reasonable to resort to watt efficiency or speed/time to complete a specific distance (what else would be better?), looking at both flats and moderate climbs (4-5% grades), which represent the vast majority of riding. And there, aero always wins.

    • @shaung1719
      @shaung1719 Місяць тому

      This is correct when the weight difference is up to 500 grams, but this ones a porker.

  • @RicoRico1982
    @RicoRico1982 Місяць тому +1

    The Fake Tarmac

  • @K114LED
    @K114LED Місяць тому +2

    Copy of Tarmac SL7

  • @govermentsoundsystemrootik8887
    @govermentsoundsystemrootik8887 Місяць тому

    Looks exactly like my Reacto 6000....!!!