Such a good series! Can't wait to see the results...I do try and influence the dice as well but I think the best I've ever really gotten is avoidance of 7 to around 5.5 out of 36...
Excellent video. Theory proves that DI is for real as you have demonstrated. It still comes down to the skill level of the shooter. Knowing the table, position and body posture are critical to success. It takes alot of preparation and practice to become good, plus many hours of experience at live casino tables. Looking forward to the next segment.
John, another great video! Sorry I couldn't join the live premiere..... When playing the Don't on myself I throw the 1/2 1/3 on the come out and get more aces, ace duce, 3, 4, 7 and 9 (according to Bonetracker). I want the 4. Because of the 7, I hedge the come out. Next set depends on point.
Awesome!!! Need some help Does anybody know how many points or the ratio you get for points on a bubble craps machine. Example: 1 point for every $5 thanks
I have been dice setting for 2-3 years have a nice practice set up and play at Mohegan Sun, last sunday player to stick right whips the dice all over the table knocking over chips 20 minutes later she threw 5 points to the fire bet, and then sevened out good thing i was on the fire bet 1,250.00, i get the dice, setting for hardways made the 9 for the point 3 rolls later sevened out, dice moved to my left that player also threw the dice all over the table he made 4 points to the fire bet good thing i was on the fire bet for 150.00 and a bunch of points in between,,,,,,, i see this more and more frequently where the random shooters throw points and numbers and i seven out after 3 or four throws setting the dice from ALL positions
I found very early in my time practicing to be a controlled shooter that I threw more 7's than I ever did when I was throwing randomly. This is why I still have a belief in it ... if I can influence the dice negatively, why not the other way, too? But it's kind of a fools errand. Even if you can do it, it's not a guarantee, and it's not a substitute for quality, disciplined betting.
Good video, but I think you might have accidentally misrepresented the kissing sets a little bit. The "kissing sets" have the same number "kissing" each other. For example the 1/4, 4/1 set is a kissing 2's set, a 4/5, 5/4 is a kissing 6s set, etc etc. I believe the traditional "kissing set" has reciprocating numbered faces. The kissing sets potentially protect against the double pitch, however, the risks are the two potential single pitch 7s and perfect drift 7s.
I totally appreciate it. There’s so much information out there. I am honestly overwhelmed by the volume of it. I don’t have the level of depth and day to day work that you have with it for sure. So this helps me with knowing that I need to bring this version of it when I dive into the “how” videos over the next few weeks Remember when I asked you to join me live? This is why!
Hard set with 6/1 inside offers the dice influencer the 1 off toss which avoids the 7. No way to throw a 7 with 1 off toss on any set with 7 inside. Also excellent if one can perform and wager all hops with 1 six or 1 one. Eg: 12, 13, 14, 15, 26, 36, 46, 56..... The 16 is a 2 off, a bad toss. Must throw only 1 off. There is a Toss technique that will have a good dice influencer toss better than 1 in 3 1 offs.
I'm simply not good enough at controlling axis to make a set like that work consistently (yet). I've been watching a lot of VDC's dice set breakdowns. What's the technique?
@@ProCraps From stick left 1/2 : 1. Line up old school (perpendicular to back wall) 2. Grip, old school. Set; any hardway on top with 6/1 inside. 3. Top left point of Die is pointed to 11 o’clock. This will slant the dice. 4. With dice in hand, starting position is at 2 inches closer to back wall (2 inches in front of you on felt) and top left corner at 11 o’clock. 5. Lift dice off felt about 1.5 inches with stiff arm and elbow locked. (Must be at least 5’9” tall, if not wear shoes with higher soles.) 6. Practice motion up using knuckles pointed at target right, about 2 inches left of right corner with dice hitting 3 inches from back. Toss is with dead no spin flight and released on upswing of stiff arm 3 inches up from felt with follow through a continuation and finished upswing. (The actual release of dice in upswing is a simple “open hand, let go” of dice.) Keep a Fluid, even motion. The dice behavior flight is low with slight arc and should land flat, with dice ending close to each other, but not kissing. Misses often end up with hard way endings. (Good mistakes) Bad Mistake tosses (7’s) are mostly 2 off 6/1, 1/6 -7’s. Rarely are mistake tosses on axis 7’s (5/2, 2/5, 4/3, 3/4). Let me know how you do or if you have questions. Done correctly, This toss is an excellent “avoid 7” dice influencer. Coupled with a proper strategy for winning, it can be very successful. (I utilize short game, full exposure up front strategy with numbers off ONLY on 1st comeout roll which gives me “lay of the land” info. Ps. The worded “how to” above is far more complicated than the actual toss itself.
@@healthsignalllc3456 This is very interesting to me as I have been working on a toss very similar. I think it was the "slanting the top left corner of the dice to 11 o'clock that caught my attention. My question is about your starting position. 2" closer to the back wall means if you were to center your starting point move two inches back from there? And two inches in front of you on felt means two inches from the edge of the table in front of you? It seems like with a starting position like that, and throwing 2 inches left of the right corner, you are tossing on a slight angle to the left. Would like to hear your thoughts as I have a home set up and practicing different tosses. Most have backspin to the deadspin is interesting also.
@@mcchacho1 hi, I responded and it appears the response was not recorded. Starting position: if at stick left/right 1/2 , place dice on felt 2” in front of your lead shoulder and 2” from side wall about a bit before pass line. Then begin set, grip and toss process. Ps. Hope this response sticks. Peace.
Id love to see the results on win craps for the field bet using a martingale system bank roll 1000 and going say for $5 $10 $15 table Like 5 10 20 40 80 160 320 Then 10 20 40 80 160 320 Then 15 30 60 120 240 480 Then it would be very interesting to see the stats of say you didn't start this system until 2 none field numbers have been rolled. Please can you do short video on this many many thanks
@@ProCraps great look forward to seeing it run ,especially with the wait for 2 or 3 none field rolls before starting and also if able to add pays treble on the 12 option.
Sort of. Energy dispersal is not equal it’s parametric based on a lot of things such as the velocity of the hit the angle of impact and the surface area. Perfection is a 45 degree angle with 100% of the die face contacting the surface. If that happens, the maximum energy is released and the forward motion slows by some percentage while the rotation of the dice should reverse If any of that doesn’t happen, less energy is released, the rotation does not reverse, and the direction doesn’t stay true. It’s literally a war with nature!
Every throw cannot be completely random. I'm new 2 the game, only practicing for 2 months, and throwing all seven set on comeouts, hard set 4s up 2s back, and 1,2 up 1,3 back for 4s and field #s. 1s up fives back when I'm off. Some sets are more forgiving than others. Also, when u r on u can figure out which way u do throw sevens. Hard set I throw very rare 6-1s. I threw a 48 series last night. From that 1 set of rolls I made 668$ w/ a 120 buy in. It boggles me that so many " high rollers" don't practice it. The 25$ table in Milwaukee most just chicken feed throw. This works, I'm averaging 11 rolls, and I throw 6s and 9s often, and hard tens. Practice for a week, see what happens. Throw more upward, and follow thru. If throwing not on felt, u can hear the way they land, seek a crack landing. Love your vids, I'm a probability, math geek myself.
I'm very torn on the issue. What you see in slow motion confirms that it's all a train wreck. But the results of a practiced shot speak for themselves. Your eyes tell you one thing, but the outcomes tell another. Fascinating stuff.
I should add my casino has electronic kiosks, and u throw the dice on a no felt table. Upsides being uneven bets pay to the cent, once bets locked in the odds randomly go as high as 60-1 on 2-12. C+e, any skinny( n/ a) etc. That's what I meant about hearing the landing. Not sure how rare these electronic tables are, didn't see any in vegas.very cool, the hotter the shooter, the brighter, higher the flames on side screens
@@adamnelson1219 they are cropping up everywhere- Roll to Win. I have mixed feelings on them. As a shooter and player? These are very beatable. But it does also take away 3 dealer jobs per table per shift. Not a fan of that!
Ok listen closely. According to Golden Touch the key to avoid the 7 is key as you explained. GT also state that their recommended beginner should use the hard way set as it allows a little room for error with one dice going off axis and still the 7 doesn't show. But if you use the 3V set to target the 6 and 8, you run the risk of also hit a 7 if you go off axis. So.... In part 2 you can't have it both ways my friend. You simulated reducing the 7 to only come out only 5 times every 36 rolls, WHILE AT THE SAME TIME being able to hit more 6 and 8's Doesn't work that way. Another point to explain avoiding the 7 and the whole philosophy of Dice Control I'll lay it out for you. The hard way is recommended because it allows for error, one die can go off axis as stated above, but my belief is if you want to avoid the 7- YOU SHOULD USE THE ALL 7'S SET!. Hear me out: If the hard way gives the shooter some room for error, than the all 7's set gives you even more. You stated yourself along with other people whose quotes you read, that once the dice leave your hand you've done your part. Now it just has to play out. So the dice hit the table, then the wall, and once again the table where they come to rest. The only one you have control over is the first stage. SO... If you set the dice to the All 7's set, you can only practice your technique to deliver those dice to land the way you set them. If successful they bounce in the same way as you set them. But now the Randomness enters. They hit the wall and than they hit the table again. The chance that both dice are still as you set has I higher probably of NOT occurring. And if you think someone can throw them perfectly, hit the wall perfectly, and then come to rest perfectly... I think you will agree will happen less than it will not. So the only logical conclusion is to set the for the 7, throw them to accurately to land on the 7 set, then very important, have very little energy so there is the least amount of Randomness when they hit the wall and then the felt again. Just a turn here or there and the result is no 7. Again the hard way set allows for a little room, while the 7 set gives you more. Just enough to beat them. So if you are following, if you see the logic here, than all sets are going to avoid that number!. As crazy as that sounds, here is what I believe is going on. Out of all people that claim to be dice controllers, only about 1% are. I'm not saying they are scammers, I think they believe they are shooting well, but in reality it is all random. There are only a small fraction of players that can deliver those dice to the table the way they set them AND have the energy dissipate to the point there is just a subtle amount of Randomness. If there is too much it becomes completely random and as they say it's all out the window. Hope this sheds light on the subject. Thanks for you passionate presentation. It is one of the most thorough I've seen. Best of luck.
Agree with that assessment. The all-7's set is hugely popular for exactly that reason. My toss is very different, so these rules are tough to apply to it, but in theory, they work the same.
Alright, allow me to offer my two cents. There is no such thing as Dice Influencing. There is only Controlled Shooting. Some Shooters are good at it. Some mediocre, & some actually STINK at it. Dissipation of energy. Totally Flat Landings, & closely cropped together landings after contact with the backwall allow for the best results…. But NOT because of what you might/probably think! Super Slow motion video proves… beyond a reasonable doubt that “ On Axis” ain’t happening, & that “ Dice Influencing “ is Commensurate to finding, & caging “ Big foot”! Allow me to elaborate. Dice flip, flop, & go “ Off Axis” upon initial table Contact. It’s simply what dice do NATURALLY. There is no such thing as teaching a “ Off Axis” method of tossing ( for the Gurus/teachers that charge $$$ for Off Axis tossing techniques)! How can you teach/charge for something that occurs naturally? 😂 It’s almost as ridiculous as saying something is more random! Random is random. There are no degrees of randomness! So…. what about the Random Rollers ( We are ALL random Shooters in reality… some have Controlled, Mechanical Tosses, some don’t) that toss long hands? They pick up the dice. Fling them, sometimes hard enough to break the sound barrier, yet they go on these long rolls, JUST LIKE the So-Called Dice Influencers. So… why is that? Simply because they got lucky, right? Yes, of course they did/do. However, there’s a underlying reason as to WHY they got/get “ Lucky” when tossing those long hands. The very SAME thing rings true for Controlled Shooters, too. There’s a certain mathematical thing that MUST occur in order for ANYONE, (skilled Shooter or not) to toss a long hand, & believe me, it’s NOT this Mumbai jumbo of keeping the dice on Axis. The dice go Off Axis NATURALLY as SOON as they make initial table contact no matter how SOFTLY, or SO-CALLED expertly that you toss them. Even tapping, Kissing, hugging the backwall is the final damaging blow! Every toss when the dice come to a final halt, tells the shooter how to proceed, & what adjustments need to be made for the NEXT toss, in order to extend the hand beyond probability. It’s simply that Shooters don’t know how to correctly read their toss results. The very best computer to use is your brain because it’s imputing information “ on the fly”, & making impromptu decisions in REAL TIME, instead of imputing information into a computer AFTER the session is over! In conclusion, I will say this: most tosses are random, regardless of a Shooter’s skill level. Sure, any highly practiced Controlled Shooter can make his/her toss APPEAR to be breathtakingly INFLUENCED. ( Ya know… the old “ Smoke & Mirrors” thingy that gravitates people to wanting to take a Class) However, the Truly Skilled Shooters understand what needs to be done after every toss comes to a complete halt. They proceed accordingly, & usually disregard that “ War of Attrition “ thingy, & waltz away to The Cashierscage, & then to the Exit sign…. Winnings in Tow!! Continued success! Keep em 🎲🎲 Married!!
2 cents? You brought the whole nickel. And I love it. Bring us all the change, Cage… Every throw has 3 obvious points to break down. The initial hit. The back wall hit and the landing. And that assumes perfection. Which is not possible The skilled shooter, as you suggest, reads it and adjusts. Focuses on the energy and attempts to make a quality controlled throw. Yes, more to it than just energy control but it starts there. And knowing what that means is the most critical piece Trust me … lots more coming on this!
@@ProCraps Listen…. If comments were not in Cyberspace for ANYONE to see/read ( Especially the Casinos, because contrary to popular belief.. Casinos do browse these Dice Influencing UA-cam channels) I would expose SPECIFICALLY why EVERYONE is reading their toss results incorrectly, & it has absolutely NOTHING to do with: “ Because I SAID SO”. It’s simply because of what THE DICE SAY is undeniably TRUE!! It’s not a belief system, Hocus Pocus, Magic Dust, or a Holy Grail. Dice results have harbored traits that are FACT, & it’s the observer’s JOB to ascertain this information Correctly! That is all that I will divulge! However, there is one other UA-camr that also understands what dice REALLY do, & how to proceed accordingly, based on toss results. His channel is Vegas Dice Controller. Nope, this is NOT a “ plug” for his channel. Never met the gent, but we know of the same people. The Controlled Shooter’s community is a fish bowl. Ask Vegas Dice Controller what HE thinks about Dice Influencing? 😝 Ya gotta THINK outside of the Box, folks! Do the work! Take a pair of dice, & study & memorize the different ways that two dice can flip, flop, & what numbers that appear when they do flip, & flop . Practiced Shooters don’t really know what they are up against when trying to extend their hands beyond probability, or snipe numbers! But, but, but, Mr. Cage, I set the dice in the 2V, & I hit the 4/10 eight times before I finally sevened out. 😂 My dice were “ On Axis”, & I couldn’t have done it without Dice Influencing! Dream on my Children. Dream On!! 🤣 There is this thing called “ The exception, & there’s this thing called The Rule”! As they say in the movie “ The Matrix”…. There’s the Red Pill, & the Blue Pill ( Not Viagra 😜). Which one are You going to choose? Okay, I’m done rambling….. AGAIN!!!!!
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Love it. There are a lot of “IF”’s. Can’t wait to see the next video. Keep them up.
More to come!
Such a good series! Can't wait to see the results...I do try and influence the dice as well but I think the best I've ever really gotten is avoidance of 7 to around 5.5 out of 36...
Don’t practice until you get it right … practice until you can’t get it wrong!
Can hardly wait to see the slow motion video of the dice landing and their reaction. Thanks for another interesting video.
You and me both!
Actually, I've seen what happens and it tells a very interesting story, for sure.
Excellent video. Theory proves that DI is for real as you have demonstrated. It still comes down to the skill level of the shooter. Knowing the table, position and body posture are critical to success. It takes alot of preparation and practice to become good, plus many hours of experience at live casino tables. Looking forward to the next segment.
The theory is proven … but the application of it is another story.
John, another great video! Sorry I couldn't join the live premiere..... When playing the Don't on myself I throw the 1/2 1/3 on the come out and get more aces, ace duce, 3, 4, 7 and 9 (according to Bonetracker). I want the 4. Because of the 7, I hedge the come out. Next set depends on point.
Even the best home run hitter strikes out some times
The best hitters fail 70% of the time. If you could improve to failing only 30% in craps ... you'd have something!
Awesome!!!
Need some help
Does anybody know how many points or the ratio you get for points on a bubble craps machine. Example: 1 point for every $5 thanks
I don't know, personally, but if you ask Casino Quest, they might have a better answer for you?
Excellent info, sir
Glad it was helpful!
I have been dice setting for 2-3 years have a nice practice set up and play at Mohegan Sun, last sunday player to stick right whips the dice all over the table knocking over chips 20 minutes later she threw 5 points to the fire bet, and then sevened out good thing i was on the fire bet 1,250.00, i get the dice, setting for hardways made the 9 for the point 3 rolls later sevened out, dice moved to my left that player also threw the dice all over the table he made 4 points to the fire bet good thing i was on the fire bet for 150.00 and a bunch of points in between,,,,,,, i see this more and more frequently where the random shooters throw points and numbers and i seven out after 3 or four throws setting the dice from ALL positions
I found very early in my time practicing to be a controlled shooter that I threw more 7's than I ever did when I was throwing randomly. This is why I still have a belief in it ... if I can influence the dice negatively, why not the other way, too?
But it's kind of a fools errand.
Even if you can do it, it's not a guarantee, and it's not a substitute for quality, disciplined betting.
Great work John
Great video by the way
Glad you enjoyed it. This investigative journalism thing has been fun for me.
Good video, but I think you might have accidentally misrepresented the kissing sets a little bit. The "kissing sets" have the same number "kissing" each other. For example the 1/4, 4/1 set is a kissing 2's set, a 4/5, 5/4 is a kissing 6s set, etc etc. I believe the traditional "kissing set" has reciprocating numbered faces. The kissing sets potentially protect against the double pitch, however, the risks are the two potential single pitch 7s and perfect drift 7s.
I’ve seen it taught both ways. Linked to George’s video that explains it better. The other reference that I’ve got is a boom though.
@@ProCraps , 🙂 Just trying to help. Good video and content.
I totally appreciate it. There’s so much information out there. I am honestly overwhelmed by the volume of it. I don’t have the level of depth and day to day work that you have with it for sure. So this helps me with knowing that I need to bring this version of it when I dive into the “how” videos over the next few weeks
Remember when I asked you to join me live? This is why!
@@ProCraps , if I ever get another day off, I'll let you know. I still don't think I'm anywhere near qualified, but it'd be fun and educational :-)
You’d be perfect for it. Let me know. If or when you can swing it
excellent video .. let just get you over that 1K subscribes now.. hehehehehe... 1 more to go
this is George From Cy by the way ... new channel and all that.. lol
Hard set with 6/1 inside offers the dice influencer the 1 off toss which avoids the 7. No way to throw a 7 with 1 off toss on any set with 7 inside. Also excellent if one can perform and wager all hops with 1 six or 1 one. Eg: 12, 13, 14, 15, 26, 36, 46, 56..... The 16 is a 2 off, a bad toss. Must throw only 1 off. There is a Toss technique that will have a good dice influencer toss better than 1 in 3 1 offs.
I'm simply not good enough at controlling axis to make a set like that work consistently (yet). I've been watching a lot of VDC's dice set breakdowns.
What's the technique?
@@ProCraps From stick left 1/2 :
1. Line up old school (perpendicular to back wall)
2. Grip, old school. Set; any hardway on top with 6/1 inside.
3. Top left point of Die is pointed to 11 o’clock. This will slant the dice. 4. With dice in hand, starting position is at 2 inches closer to back wall (2 inches in front of you on felt) and top left corner at 11 o’clock.
5. Lift dice off felt about 1.5 inches with stiff arm and elbow locked. (Must be at least 5’9” tall, if not wear shoes with higher soles.)
6. Practice motion up using knuckles pointed at target right, about 2 inches left of right corner with dice hitting 3 inches from back. Toss is with dead no spin flight and released on upswing of stiff arm 3 inches up from felt with follow through a continuation and finished upswing. (The actual release of dice in upswing is a simple “open hand, let go” of dice.)
Keep a Fluid, even motion. The dice behavior flight is low with slight arc and should land flat, with dice ending close to each other, but not kissing.
Misses often end up with hard way endings. (Good mistakes) Bad Mistake tosses (7’s) are mostly 2 off 6/1, 1/6 -7’s. Rarely are mistake tosses on axis 7’s (5/2, 2/5, 4/3, 3/4).
Let me know how you do or if you have questions.
Done correctly, This toss is an excellent “avoid 7” dice influencer.
Coupled with a proper strategy for winning, it can be very successful.
(I utilize short game, full exposure up front strategy with numbers off ONLY on 1st comeout roll which gives me “lay of the land” info.
Ps. The worded “how to” above is far more complicated than the actual toss itself.
@@healthsignalllc3456 This is very interesting to me as I have been working on a toss very similar. I think it was the "slanting the top left corner of the dice to 11 o'clock that caught my attention. My question is about your starting position. 2" closer to the back wall means if you were to center your starting point move two inches back from there? And two inches in front of you on felt means two inches from the edge of the table in front of you? It seems like with a starting position like that, and throwing 2 inches left of the right corner, you are tossing on a slight angle to the left. Would like to hear your thoughts as I have a home set up and practicing different tosses. Most have backspin to the deadspin is interesting also.
@@mcchacho1 hi, I responded and it appears the response was not recorded.
Starting position: if at stick left/right 1/2 , place dice on felt 2” in front of your lead shoulder and 2” from side wall about a bit before pass line. Then begin set, grip and toss process. Ps. Hope this response sticks. Peace.
Id love to see the results on win craps for the field bet using a martingale system bank roll 1000 and going say for $5 $10 $15 table
Like 5 10 20 40 80 160 320
Then 10 20 40 80 160 320
Then 15 30 60 120 240 480
Then it would be very interesting to see the stats of say you didn't start this system until 2 none field numbers have been rolled.
Please can you do short video on this many many thanks
I can give that a try for sure ... you should hit up Vince Armenti's channel too. He runs live WinCraps scripts every day. The guy is a wizard.
@@ProCraps great look forward to seeing it run ,especially with the wait for 2 or 3 none field rolls before starting and also if able to add pays treble on the 12 option.
For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction ????????
Sort of. Energy dispersal is not equal it’s parametric based on a lot of things such as the velocity of the hit the angle of impact and the surface area. Perfection is a 45 degree angle with 100% of the die face contacting the surface.
If that happens, the maximum energy is released and the forward motion slows by some percentage while the rotation of the dice should reverse
If any of that doesn’t happen, less energy is released, the rotation does not reverse, and the direction doesn’t stay true.
It’s literally a war with nature!
Every throw cannot be completely random. I'm new 2 the game, only practicing for 2 months, and throwing all seven set on comeouts, hard set 4s up 2s back, and 1,2 up 1,3 back for 4s and field #s. 1s up fives back when I'm off. Some sets are more forgiving than others. Also, when u r on u can figure out which way u do throw sevens. Hard set I throw very rare 6-1s. I threw a 48 series last night. From that 1 set of rolls I made 668$ w/ a 120 buy in. It boggles me that so many " high rollers" don't practice it. The 25$ table in Milwaukee most just chicken feed throw. This works, I'm averaging 11 rolls, and I throw 6s and 9s often, and hard tens. Practice for a week, see what happens. Throw more upward, and follow thru. If throwing not on felt, u can hear the way they land, seek a crack landing. Love your vids, I'm a probability, math geek myself.
I'm very torn on the issue. What you see in slow motion confirms that it's all a train wreck. But the results of a practiced shot speak for themselves. Your eyes tell you one thing, but the outcomes tell another. Fascinating stuff.
I should add my casino has electronic kiosks, and u throw the dice on a no felt table. Upsides being uneven bets pay to the cent, once bets locked in the odds randomly go as high as 60-1 on 2-12. C+e, any skinny( n/ a) etc. That's what I meant about hearing the landing. Not sure how rare these electronic tables are, didn't see any in vegas.very cool, the hotter the shooter, the brighter, higher the flames on side screens
@@adamnelson1219 they are cropping up everywhere- Roll to Win. I have mixed feelings on them. As a shooter and player? These are very beatable. But it does also take away 3 dealer jobs per table per shift. Not a fan of that!
If DI was not real, then the casino would not put the Alligator Pyramids at the end of the table.
Truth. Without the diamonds…Dice control is 100% possible. With them? It’s chaos. Controlled Chaos? Remains to be seen
Ok listen closely. According to Golden Touch the key to avoid the 7 is key as you explained. GT also state that their recommended beginner should use the hard way set as it allows a little room for error with one dice going off axis and still the 7 doesn't show.
But if you use the 3V set to target the 6 and 8, you run the risk of also hit a 7 if you go off axis.
So....
In part 2 you can't have it both ways my friend.
You simulated reducing the 7 to only come out only 5 times every 36 rolls, WHILE AT THE SAME TIME being able to hit more 6 and 8's Doesn't work that way.
Another point to explain avoiding the 7 and the whole philosophy of Dice Control I'll lay it out for you.
The hard way is recommended because it allows for error, one die can go off axis as stated above, but my belief is if you want to avoid the 7- YOU SHOULD USE THE ALL 7'S SET!. Hear me out:
If the hard way gives the shooter some room for error, than the all 7's set gives you even more.
You stated yourself along with other people whose quotes you read, that once the dice leave your hand you've done your part. Now it just has to play out.
So the dice hit the table, then the wall, and once again the table where they come to rest.
The only one you have control over is the first stage. SO...
If you set the dice to the All 7's set, you can only practice your technique to deliver those dice to land the way you set them.
If successful they bounce in the same way as you set them.
But now the Randomness enters. They hit the wall and than they hit the table again.
The chance that both dice are still as you set has I higher probably of NOT occurring.
And if you think someone can throw them perfectly, hit the wall perfectly, and then come to rest perfectly...
I think you will agree will happen less than it will not.
So the only logical conclusion is to set the for the 7, throw them to accurately to land on the 7 set, then very important, have very little energy so there is the least amount of Randomness when they hit the wall and then the felt again. Just a turn here or there and the result is no 7.
Again the hard way set allows for a little room, while the 7 set gives you more. Just enough to beat them.
So if you are following, if you see the logic here, than all sets are going to avoid that number!.
As crazy as that sounds, here is what I believe is going on.
Out of all people that claim to be dice controllers, only about 1% are. I'm not saying they are scammers, I think they believe they are shooting well, but in reality it is all random. There are only a small fraction of players that can deliver those dice to the table the way they set them AND have the energy dissipate to the point there is just a subtle amount of Randomness. If there is too much it becomes completely random and as they say it's all out the window.
Hope this sheds light on the subject.
Thanks for you passionate presentation. It is one of the most thorough I've seen.
Best of luck.
Agree with that assessment. The all-7's set is hugely popular for exactly that reason. My toss is very different, so these rules are tough to apply to it, but in theory, they work the same.
Alright, allow me to offer my two cents. There is no such thing as Dice Influencing. There is only Controlled Shooting. Some Shooters are good at it. Some mediocre, & some actually STINK at it. Dissipation of energy. Totally Flat Landings, & closely cropped together landings after contact with the backwall allow for the best results…. But NOT because of what you might/probably think!
Super Slow motion video proves… beyond a reasonable doubt that “ On Axis” ain’t happening, & that “ Dice Influencing “ is Commensurate to finding, & caging “ Big foot”!
Allow me to elaborate. Dice flip, flop, & go “ Off Axis” upon initial table Contact. It’s simply what dice do NATURALLY.
There is no such thing as teaching a “ Off Axis” method of tossing ( for the Gurus/teachers that charge $$$ for Off Axis tossing techniques)! How can you teach/charge for something that occurs naturally? 😂
It’s almost as ridiculous as saying something is more random! Random is random. There are no degrees of randomness!
So…. what about the Random Rollers ( We are ALL random Shooters in reality… some have Controlled, Mechanical Tosses, some don’t) that toss long hands? They pick up the dice. Fling them, sometimes hard enough to break the sound barrier, yet they go on these long rolls, JUST LIKE the So-Called Dice Influencers.
So… why is that? Simply because they got lucky, right? Yes, of course they did/do.
However, there’s a underlying reason as to WHY they got/get “ Lucky” when tossing those long hands. The very SAME thing rings true for Controlled Shooters, too.
There’s a certain mathematical thing that MUST occur in order for ANYONE, (skilled Shooter or not) to toss a long hand, & believe me, it’s NOT this Mumbai jumbo of keeping the dice on Axis.
The dice go Off Axis NATURALLY as SOON as they make initial table contact no matter how SOFTLY, or SO-CALLED expertly that you toss them.
Even tapping, Kissing, hugging the backwall is the final damaging blow!
Every toss when the dice come to a final halt, tells the shooter how to proceed, & what adjustments need to be made for the NEXT toss, in order to extend the hand beyond probability.
It’s simply that Shooters don’t know how to correctly read their toss results.
The very best computer to use is your brain because it’s imputing information “ on the fly”, & making impromptu decisions in REAL TIME, instead of imputing information into a computer AFTER the session is over!
In conclusion, I will say this: most tosses are random, regardless of a Shooter’s skill level. Sure, any highly practiced Controlled Shooter can make his/her toss APPEAR to be breathtakingly INFLUENCED. ( Ya know… the old “ Smoke & Mirrors” thingy that gravitates people to wanting to take a Class)
However, the Truly Skilled Shooters understand what needs to be done after every toss comes to a complete halt. They proceed accordingly, & usually disregard that “ War of Attrition “ thingy, & waltz away to The Cashierscage, & then to the Exit sign…. Winnings in Tow!!
Continued success! Keep em 🎲🎲 Married!!
2 cents? You brought the whole nickel. And I love it. Bring us all the change, Cage…
Every throw has 3 obvious points to break down. The initial hit. The back wall hit and the landing. And that assumes perfection. Which is not possible
The skilled shooter, as you suggest, reads it and adjusts. Focuses on the energy and attempts to make a quality controlled throw.
Yes, more to it than just energy control but it starts there. And knowing what that means is the most critical piece
Trust me … lots more coming on this!
@@ProCraps Listen…. If comments were not in Cyberspace for ANYONE to see/read ( Especially the Casinos, because contrary to popular belief.. Casinos do browse these Dice Influencing UA-cam channels) I would expose SPECIFICALLY why EVERYONE is reading their toss results incorrectly, & it has absolutely NOTHING to do with: “ Because I SAID SO”. It’s simply because of what THE DICE SAY is undeniably TRUE!!
It’s not a belief system, Hocus Pocus, Magic Dust, or a Holy Grail.
Dice results have harbored traits that are FACT, & it’s the observer’s JOB to ascertain this information Correctly!
That is all that I will divulge! However, there is one other UA-camr that also understands what dice REALLY do, & how to proceed accordingly, based on toss results.
His channel is Vegas Dice Controller. Nope, this is NOT a “ plug” for his channel. Never met the gent, but we know of the same people. The Controlled Shooter’s community is a fish bowl.
Ask Vegas Dice Controller what HE thinks about Dice Influencing? 😝
Ya gotta THINK outside of the Box, folks! Do the work! Take a pair of dice, & study & memorize the different ways that two dice can flip, flop, & what numbers that appear when they do flip, & flop .
Practiced Shooters don’t really know what they are up against when trying to extend their hands beyond probability, or snipe numbers!
But, but, but, Mr. Cage, I set the dice in the 2V, & I hit the 4/10 eight times before I finally sevened out. 😂
My dice were “ On Axis”, & I couldn’t have done it without Dice Influencing!
Dream on my Children. Dream On!! 🤣
There is this thing called “ The exception, & there’s this thing called The Rule”!
As they say in the movie “ The Matrix”…. There’s the Red Pill, & the Blue Pill ( Not Viagra 😜). Which one are You going to choose?
Okay, I’m done rambling….. AGAIN!!!!!
A good prayer:
I'm a sinner JESUS please forgive me for all my sins I know you shed your Blood for me on the cross at Calvary. Thank you JESUS for my salvation and for shedding they Blood for me. I love you JESUS.
Romans 10:5/10 ct...❤️k
JESUSisLord!Amen..