Professional Perfumer Reviews Aventus VS Club de Nuit Intense Man
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- Hey friends, today I'm joined by Richard Herpin - the owner and perfumer of Precious Liquid fragrances. He also is the creator of Tom Ford's Oud Wood among many other fragrances. Today he's tackling Armaf Club de Nuit Intense Man and Creed Aventus and comparing the two. Thanks for watching!
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that dude is a cross mix-up of brad pitt and colin farrel
I like the parable that CDNMI is like a caricature of Aventus.
But I'll have to stick to the cheap stuff, I don't want to be punched in the face when my wife finds out I bought a fragrance for $300 that you can barely smell. 👊💥
Where you finding a full bottle of aventus for 300
@@Seasniffer69 True that, here in Sweden 50ml is now $250 and 100ml is $350.
@@pallemaniac i know he said in the video full presentations of aventus for around 300 on grey market BUT i havent seen it on any discounters for less than $360-400.
Aventus is so expensive. I could buy 3 chanels for one aventus and cover at minimum 3 seasons.
@@Seasniffer69 Yeah, Greed... sorry, Creed is surely suffering from severe hubris. 🤒😆
no need, aventus is overpriced....
Please remind Richard to restock his website before appearing on your channel. We are going to buy it all when it's available
Right, I wanna buy the sample pack
Yeah big mistake, should've thought of that lol
lol facts!!!
This can be an entire series. Doesn’t necessarily need to be a comparison to clones. Just breakdowns of legendary frags.
So nice to hear actual insight from someone with the knowledge he has. For him to explain WHY Aventus smells and performs different (removal/regulation of Lyral and Birch etc) rather than just saying “it doesn’t last as long” was great.
Also, it would be interesting to know the rough actual cost of the formula per bottle of something like Aventus. I know he says it’s a ‘very expensive formula’, but how many dollars does that actually translate to per bottle? $2? $5? $10+?
I know he’s working in the industry so he won’t want to say anything that may hurt business, but id love to hear some proper behind the scenes stuff that nobody else talks about…
Fragrances have a huge profit margin, its not very expensive to make.
You actually can't calculate it solely on the costs of the raw materials alone. You also have, sourcing, marketing, distribution costs, certificates, labs. The formulation itself will costs quite some money as the perfumer wants a cut for his work too. So, even if you know about material costs, you also have to ask for everything else too to get the full picture. But none of the less, margins are still extremely high when you see for how much this stuff gets sold. Margins are in the percentage range of a few thousands.
Ill say $50 MAX. $100 if we include machinery
I think Richard is the CDNI of Brad Pitt
This was such a great video. Absolutely great to hear from a perfumers perspective. This would be an awesome series. Thanks for the content, hard work, effort and professionalism to your craft. Much appreciated.
I am really looking forward to more content like this! This feels like real value for the members
Looking forward to this series! Richard is such a genuine and gracious guy.
This was awesome! I loved it when Richard said he liked the price of CDNIM because of the price of Ambroxan, but they compromised on everything else 😂
I can't wait to watch more! It's great to hear Richard's perfumer perspective vs Ashton's.
Great videos, guys! Keep them coming!
Ya, I was quite surprised and ecstatic when Richard praised CDNIM’s quality. Makes you think about how much of a cash grab Creed really is, for trying to push those 500$ prices.
@@Q_N- Well he didn’t really ‘praise its quality’, he just commended them for using the right dose of Ambroxan but said that they cheaped out on the rest of the ingredients… 😂
@@SirSillageSniffington lol with all the hate that it gets, I’d consider those words a praise 🤣 On a real note though, he is showing a relatively positive view on it. Which made me think the iterations such as CDNIM Limited, are definitely in the realms of premium grade for low prices. That’s sort of my own view on this whole interaction.
@@SirSillageSniffingtonI agree with you. That was the point of my comment.
@@Q_N-It is true that he called it the Rock n' Roll Aventus. He could have just called it trash if he wanted, but he didn't. So, that a compliment in itself I suppose 😅
None of the clones can get Aventus opening. The clones smell to synthetic and overly strong
They seem to not be able to get the pineapple+ birch combo to merge together correctly. It's always that armaf 🍋 that is rough to blend in.
@@NoPainNoGain___ yeah I’ll stick to Aventus I wear it everyday 100ML bottle I will get cologne for the summer.
Ashton, if this is going a new series, don't you want to invest in a better headset (just saying) it might be tax deductible for you....🤷
Thank you!!!!
Nice and informative and no one sprayed into the air and waved their hands to their faces.😂
It's official, CDNI is "safe" Richard sprayed it on skin. 😂
I apply The CLUB 10 SPRAYS A HOUR B4 I HIT THE BAR...DRY DOWN TO LIVE FOR.😅
It would be great to see Richard break down BR540 and its clones because that is a synthetic fragrance and seems easier to copy
Timestamps would be so useful in these sorts of videos
Hey Ash, this is such an amazing and informative video. I didn’t know that they’ve found a method to extract pineapple oil, that’s nuts! And I’m quite surprised how costly pink pepper oil is, can’t imagine what it’s like to work with such an ingredient when messing up. I also agree with Mr Herpin’s opinion on Americans not really liking citrus, Light Blue Forever is a perfect example. As for the Sauvage part, I believe it’s not just Sauvage that’s taking over the scene, Dior fragrances are topping a lot of lists. The ending is an eye opener, the fact that CDNIM can nearly stand toe to toe against Aventus from a perfumer’s perspective, is impressive. For Mr Herpin to give CDNIM such high praise in the quality department is extraordinary in its own right. Definitely need more content like this if you ever get time for it, thanks Ash!!!
That's not nuts it's pineapple 😂😂😂😂😂
@@dnatural1iam23 lol, as a father of 2, I appreciate the dad joke 👍
@@Q_N- 🤣🤣🤣😜
Fwiw, I own both. I prefer Aventus on my skin of course. But the key to CDNIM is it is a SILLAGE beast, and the Lemon Pledge harshness just isn't there in the air, especially in the drydown. That is why it gets so many more compliments than Aventus, at least for me.
He did oud wood, right?
yup this guy is a legend
Great great content ! Very interesting to hear a master perfumers take on these scents ! I will definitely have to check out Salt N Pepper... Thanks Richard and Ashton for taking the time out of your lives to connect with the senses ~~ Perfumery can be such a magical experience that we can all connect threw.....
This is a nice video, BUT... There is still much to be asked. He said Bergamos was expensive, but he also said Ambroxan was expensive. And that CDNIM had to put that 10% of "expensive" ambroxan in order to replicate that Aventus note. But as we all know, CDNIM is cheap. So where is the line here? What is actually expensive, and how much is the profit margin what we are talking about. For example (hypothetically): sinthetic bercamont is 10c per gram, but real bergamont is 1$ per gram, so it's technically 10 times more expensive. So in the formula, you put 2g of bergamont, which is $2, and now the fragrance is considered "expensive"? Could we even say that this practice of "expensive" oils is like the practice of how fragrances can say they contain real Oud when in reality they have like 0.0000001% real Oud inside but since it's technically there the bottom can say: "Contains real Oud". You know what I mean?
CDN is more like 50$ not 20
genuine question - Are low cost middle eastern fragrances safe to use?
Yes hahahaha lol truth is HIGH COST MIDDLE EASTERN FRAGRANCES SAFE TO USE? Yea lol but your bank account wont be lol for litterly THE SAME EXACT SMELL IF NOT BETTER HAHAHA FOR THE " MORE AFFORDABLE " CHOICE LOL IM JUST HERE TELLING PEOPLE THAT THOSE 300 PLUS MORE ARE BASICLY A RICH PERSONS EGO BEING MANIFESTED " OH LOOK WHAT I CAN AFFORD " HAHAHA
I think that's Ashton with his hair fluffed out and big glasses. 😂
Is that dude in his kitchen?
Yes because he cooks all his fragrances
Sorry tooooo long, make a TLDR version
Loved the conversation between two true gents!
When Richard Herpin brought up the meal price tag I couldn't agree more... When it comes to food.
So this is the cdnim edt obviously. Should've compared the Creed to the Limited edition imo : "best for best" !!
Yes! THANK YOU! 🙏 at least one other person is commenting on this. I thought I would be the only one who is bothered by this nonsense of picking the EDT version. Poor perfumer
What a fantastic video, Ash! I could listen to you and Mr. Herpin discuss fragrances all day. Would love to hear him discuss his recent creations for Michael Malul, including Edgewater. Very educational! 🤘
Look at gent acting on his best behavior 😂
Better than Aaron Terrence Hughes’ take
i didnt know brad pitt did perfumery
I thought of brad pitt lol
Ash please add timestamps.
Video starts at 7:23
Ask him why they destroyed Oud Wood?!! One of my favorites
Wow, appreciate taking the time to break down the elements. Explaining what we smelling and experiencing. Personally i find club CDNIM too harsh. Preferring mont blanc explorer ofer all the clones. Totally agree aventus is more classier. Like the direction we are going. Really interested in la nuit de l'homme bleu electrique vs the original. Why do so many people like the original eventhough it's not that strong. And why do parfums de marly fragrances seem to perform longer. Is it the build structure?
I think a closer better comparison and review would have been aventus and club de nuit limited edition instead
Yes! THANK YOU! 🙏 at least one other person is commenting on this. I thought I would be the only one who is bothered by this nonsense of picking the EDT version. Poor perfumer
This is awesome Ashton! Many thanks to Richard for coming on and giving what is basically a "free" class. I hope we see others soon! Maybe some indie perfumers, and of course you gotta try to get the other well known perfumers on here. Learning a lot, I love it! Thank you both!
In Australia it's over $400 at discounters. Ckub de nuit is $60 so you can spray as often as you like.
I've often paid $280 but I've gotta call it at $300.
I know people that compare CDNIM to Aventus but they complain about quality. They forget about price difference. If u bought CDNIM thinking u gona smell same quality as Aventus. U shouldn't be buying Fragrances.
BUT IT IS HAHAHAH we all have to understand that its about the dry downs. When you have a scent that smells 90% the same for 5 hours and the only difference is 2 hours of dry down " which is basicly Aventus WITH A TWIST ( better in my opinion ) the whole " quality " is the ilusion lol it is to place " labels " on what is considered top of the line or not. You think CDNIM cant mark up their scents to 200.00 a bottle? And you dont think Aventus can mark DOWN their bottles hahahah ?
Remember though, nobody around you would ever know by the scent if you're wearing CDNIM or Aventus.
I'll keep my hundreds of $ & continue to wear CDNIM.
Wish he would have compared with the limited edition.
Yes! THANK YOU! 🙏 at least one other person is commenting on this. I thought I would be the only one who is bothered by this nonsense of picking the EDT version. Poor perfumer
Richard looks like Colin Farrel's doppleganger.
This is pretty cool!
7:41 Comparison conversation begins
T T T T Tobacco Royal!!!! Thanks guys! Awesome video. Precious Liquid awesome fragrances. Can’t wait for the next vid!
Really enjoyed this and excited for more of these types of videos. I’d love to see him not only compare clones to OGs but maybe even rate fragrance lines and see what are his faves.
Oud wood vs woody oud LOL.
Boss bottled elixer vs Sauvage elixer
Khamrah vs Angels share
Upvote lol I agree
Great content. More of this. Less clones. In depth on houses, information, history.
Literally everyone loved this video. Cant thank you enough ashton🙏
Great Video!!!! I definitely would like to see them talk about Oud Wood and the clones because i'm curious why Oud Wood itself and the clones dont project. Carved Oud last ok but still super close to the skin.
this perfumer man is so nice, for some reason i thought refined legacy perfumers would be a lot snobbish
I really appreciate this format!
I didn’t know who the perfumer was until you mentioned oud wood , what a fragrance that is👏
Say what you will about CDNIM but I'd never pay Creed prices for the current Aventus formulation. There's no longevity at all on my skin and it's just not worth the price.
This Picasso v (insert expensive niche frag brand name) analogy is one I don't get. Picasso painted only one each of his pieces - so the rarity added the value. This isn't the case with fragrances...
Even the weirdest smell can become comforting over time. Can't argue with the performance of 2015 CDNI. Reach out and touch noses at the expense of your own. 😆 Awesome how Rich nailed the TF without a brief. Props right there. 🤝
Where can I purchase real clone fragrances? I purchase Woody IUO from Amazon and it was a horrible counterfeit. Thanks
This was awesome!!! Thanks! Keep 'em comming! -I'd love to hear both of your thoughts on the highest quality clones.
Awesome vid Ash!! Thanks for the different perspective!
Great knowledge, I hope you make a series together with Richard. I've already seen videos on other fragrance channels where perfumers were invited but there is no comparison in knowledge which Richard present here. They weren't so detailed as him
Magnifique
Imagine Aventus with Sauvage elixir performance would be 🎉.
Was the CDNIM edt, edp or parfume?
Yesterday I smelled Club de nuit for the first time and I really don't know, what is so great about it. This scent appealed to me as harsh and cheeky. Ok I get the leather vibe may be interesting but I though about kind of arrogant mob smelling it. I expected sth different maybe. If this is close to Creed then I don't know why people are so keen on this and are able to pay such a price.
Really enjoyed this video, hope to see more of him. Personally I don’t like wearing either fragrance but a few weeks ago I sprayed Aventus on one hand and Club de nuit on the other and then asked my mom to pick which one was better. Her initial reaction was something like is this a trick they smell the same, then once I told her one was a clone of the other and to pick which one she liked more she ended up picking Club de nuit.
Wow, an actual perfumer speaking our language unlike ATH
You understand the irony of what you said because of the fact that the origin of "your language" is in fact Britain?
@@LaughingMan_this went way over your head. When he said “our” language he meant layman’s terms. As in universal common speech.
If your doctor spoke to you using medical terminology you’d be lost, you’d want the layman’s version.
Loved this. Looking forward to the next one
Amazing video, we'd love to see more. Props to the esteemed dude for respecting the cheapie fairly.
👏👏👏👏👏
Neat video idea. I liked this 👏
This was awesome. Thanks for the work, Ash!
You know how maraschino cherry taste? I want that in a men’s fragrance.
Richard says club de nuit is an aventus skin-suit 😂
A Frenchman picking aventus would never have guessed
Awesome content! Thanks for the hard work on putting out something different.
Amazing video. Hope to see more of this type of content
please make more videos with him pleaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaase i looooove it
Edp or edt ??
They used the EDT sadly. Should have used the limited edition.
Great video! Really informative, looking forward to the next ones.
This was amazing! I would love to see a comparison between Luna Rossa Carbon and Sauvage EDP from a perfumer’s perspective since both have a similar DNA
Possibly yhe best conversation ever had comparing these two
Would be great to compare TL to all its clones
Awesome interview. Looking forward to this series
Really enjoyed this conversation!
Big Up Ash 🔥🔥
Why not test the better versions of the parfum
Great video! Edgewater is great, and I look forward to buying Precious Liquid fragrance samples.
I think I really liked edgewater. Was that the melon one? I got a strong melon vibe from it, or westloop I can't remember
I loooooved this video man thank u
Wow, just next lvl content
Nice level up from Ash.
Erba Pura and Angel's Share clones!
In Sweden Creed Aventus 100ml cost 340 usd and Club de Nuit intense man cost 32 usd
Yeah its ridiculous lol like everything in this paradigm lol
its obviously a waste of money hahahahahahaha
Folks, if you layer Armaf's Club de nuit Intense Man Parfum Limited Edition, with, ParfumsVintage, Pineapple Vintage Intense.... it is the Aventus clone Bomb!!
I get compliments every day that I wear that!
Amazing scent!!!!
Fahrenheit, Acqua di Gio, Eternity, Obsession, Escape, Cool Waters, Drakkar Noir!
Most Filipinos still love the classics! Perform best in our climate (Sunny and Rainy). Please do reviews and suggest cheaper clones.
I don't own any dupes but I got Teriaq from Lattafa recently and have been reaching for it and happily over spraying. I would love to have that North Stag IV. 🤞
So, I bought the Precious Liquid Customizable Discovery Limited Collection with these fragrances:
Salt&Pepper
Aqua Oud
Amber Suede
Sangria Oak
I am in love 😍 with every one of them because whether it's an aquatic or amber fragrance, it smells of higg quality. I just want to bathe in them.
Also, shipping was super fast. It took less than 48 hours to receive it from Boca Raton, Florida to where I live in North Carolina 👍
Excited to see more from Richard!!
0:54 I can expect a lot of bashing on CDIM, but there's no denying the higher chance of a compliment when I wear that vs almost anything else I own. It's the most complimented, and most loved by the girls I've dated. Granted, my girlfriend recently said Khamrah Qahwa is her new favorite on me but thats very recently.
Edit: 39:39 he didn't bash as hard as I figured. Can't help think of CDIM as a goofy characture now lol.