Something they didn't talk about is the LinQ fishing bin on the Fish Pro can be mounted on the LinQ tabs behind the seat, rather than the very back of the craft. This makes it incredibly easy to re-board if you come off. Combined with the non slip mat on top of the bin, it is safer to climb over as well.
I've been waiting 4 months for My Fish Pro to come in and I finally get to pick it up tomorrow. Seeing these two side by side I'm really glad I went with the Sea-Doo. The Yamaha is a Waverunner with some fishing stuff bolted to it. The Sea- Doo is a well thought out fishing platform that happens to be a ski. Nicely done video!
Have 12 hours on mine. You’re gonna absolutely LOVE it!! I, too, am glad I went with the Fish Pro. Factory integration backed by a warranty is where it’s at! And LOVE the HUGE transom! Awesome machine!
@@NorthwestSawyer Sounds cold! We are on the opposite coast in Florida. Haha. Have fun!! Check out the ActiveCaptain app too when you get a chance. It’s the Garmin app. You’ll need a micro SD card (no bigger than 32 GB). Also, my steering was slightly out of alignment but Sea Doo made it super easy to adjust. Couple of UA-cam vids out there. Stay warm, my friend! Leave a comment here to let me know what you think. 😊
@@NorthwestSawyer btw, what they said in the vid about the nose being pushed a bit in moderate to rough chop at an angle is legit but it’s nothing crazy. Just a minor steering correction that you’re likely doing naturally anyway.
I used to pull a 10' soft bottom (inflatable floor) Zodiac behind a Yamaha Cruiser SHO. Could carry everything I needed in the Zodiac, and could refuel on the water by disconnecting the inflatable and tying it up along side the ski. The inflatable gives you close to an extra 900 lbs. of carrying capacity. Bottom line, you end up with a more capable, and one hell of a lot safer outfit on the water. Now you can go for a "Grander" .......... enjoy!
If you need to haul inflatable, then jetski looses purpose, better to get an actual boat, you can't go fast, and you end up doing twice the work in loading, unloading, maintaining if you need a whole dinghy for this. Im still undecided between stabicraft or fishing jetski
My 2 cents, good review. We have a 2020 wave runner fxho jet fish, it is a lovely ski. I do like it, BUT, it is a tippy platform and not the best load carrying platform. I have had to abandon ship rather than tip it with 2 up, 5 rods with hooks flailing around, and a 70l chilli bin, was a work to climb up over the back and remount the ski. I fish along side a fish pro, it is by far the supeior fishing platform. The wave runner is a touring ski not a fishing ski, I do hope yamaha design a dedicated fishing ski with longer higher hull, more stability and load carrying. We are big yamaha fans having owned bikes and outboards.
I am a huge Yamaha fan as well, I own a 2004 fxho MR1 1100. After all these yrs she's still good to go I don't have stability problems, I fish the west coast at Wanganui and other likely places around the central nth island, have been in some very tough water, she's all good. I don't have my bait board mounted east west but inline, so if diving, a remount is quite easy. She also has a bow rail and side rails for handling in rough beach launches, makes a huge difference. She also has foot well electric pumps for fighting fish in rough water when your foot wells might become flooded. That has happened to me several times. She also has a higher custom made dash hood to stop huge water hitting me in the face on those rough but fishable day's. That custom dash also helps with the wind blast. Because she's an older heavier craft she handles tough water very well, but is susceptible to a nose dive in a following sea. I am designing a wave breaker to fit to the bow rail to stop this. After owning a Yamaha and trying out a new profisher, I would not swap to seadoo. I don't like that skiddy feeling of the seadoo, foot wells hold far to much water and they wonder around alot causing steering corrections on all but flat water becoming a bit laborious over long rides in rough water, but I have never lived with one so don't really know about them, just the odd ride. What I did not like about it at all, is the extended rear platform, when sitting backwards, fishing, everything is just a little out of reach when the box is in the rear position, in the close position, the platform may as well not be extended. Having had that rant, I never fish two up, tried it once, never again. Might see you out there one day.
@@atticushexcel9567 Just in case you don't comprehend well, my ski is 16yrs older, unless you're looking for a near vintage ski, my words have nothing to do with a 2020 ski. I have been lucky enough to own my old jet ski for 17 yrs, that should help you with reliability but not much else. My statement was a comparison between old and new Yamaha ski's and has nothing to do with helping you make up your mind.
I bought a SEA DOO FishPro in June 2021 and quickly got renamed to SEA DONT. From the boat ramp on the first outing, the DONT went exactly .9 miles and lost thrust while the engine rpm increased at the same time (think of stepping on the clutch), so I quickly released the throttle at which time it cut off and would not restart. So to the dealership it went, and continues to call home, 6 weeks later and onward. So basically at $17,000 dollars a mile, I would not purchase this machine, not to mention, being off shore or on an epic trip like in the video. The IDF feature had a recall that left the dealership not repaired and oh by the way, that recall is pretty intense, so most dealerships are going to let you fail on the water because of the nature of the repair and in my case, lost power and was floating with my daughter in a major pass for boats, ships, Yamaha's, Honda's, basically any watercraft that actually works. Oh by the way, if you try to return it to the dealership BRP has already nail your A$$ shut with a clause that states this POS is yours no matter what.. ugh, think twice. You might not know who BRP is (Canada peeps), but you will as your brain aches on calls that you should not have to be making. So basically, SEA TOW insurance ($1,000 per year) + SEA DONT = NOT A GOOD IDEA.
@@pain_weaver I understand modifications on contracts. Checks. We never got the Sea Don’t above 7 knots, let alone breaking it in. After the .9 mile outing described above, the jet ski spent 5 weeks in the shop to make the recall happen. Haven’t had a problem since, but I don’t trust it. Added dual batteries as well.
Dont agree... The fishpro is way better in chop!! The fishpros deep V cuts through and disperses the water out and behind the rider, where-as the yammy doesn't really have a V. The rounded hull slaps and disperses the water almost forward and if its windy your in for a wet ride. The nose on the yammy is also very close to the waterline so expect to take a couple of waves over the front. Been out on multiple rides in tough conditions and my mates on yammys have always turned up drenched, while iv only taken minor wind spray. Yes the fishpros handling is not as crisp and the deep V occasionally causes it to bow steer, and not track as true but its a small sacrifice for a drier, more comfortable ride. Sorry for the long winded answer, just my two cents from someone who has a lot of time in the saddle of both machines, not just someone who's taken them for a quick 10min trial 🤙
rich. i have recently bought the 21 fishpro. and coming from fxho. i have to say the fishpro has done nothing but disappoint me in the handling and ride. compared to my old 17 fx. to the point i have only put 5hrs on it and seriously doubt i,ll put more on it. my 1st issue with the fishpro was bow steer. how ever that has been addressed with some aftermarket sponsons.that made a huge difference. my 2nd issue and now my biggest. is porpoising. no matter how much i change the trim it will not settle. even in flat sea conditions with next to no wind. have you experienced this on the fishpro? and if so is there a solution?
Yep. I’ve got the 19 yammy fx cruiser and my mates all have fish pros. I’ve done some big days in psycho weather and I’m ALWAYS the one who’s wet and miserable. And don’t even get me started on the stability comparison between the two 🤦♂️
@@tonyking8446 Hi Tony, sorry for the delayed response. Great to hear the sponsons improved your tracking, which sponsons did you go for? In regards to proposing I have not had any issues at all regardless of how I load it. Give me a few more details; what speed does it porpose at? Does it do both with and without the cooler? How is it loaded? Do you buy any chance have water in the hull or any damage that may cause the water to not travel over it efficiently? Look forward to hearing from you.
The Sea-Doo Fish Pro does indeed have a "deep V" hull and, of the Sea-Doo line-up, it's the best in choppy conditions. That said, the Sea-Doo's "deep V" can also get caught out a little by bow hunting, when riding diagonally across chop. The Yamaha FX hull is more forgiving when you have no choice but to ride diagonally across chop. Both struggle in severe swell. Both are pretty good in 1 to 2 metre swell, depending on wave intervals. Though I would lean towards the current Yamaha FX if ocean riding was the priority.
thank you very much I have been looking at both of these models. its great to finally see a unbiased comparison of these two models. thank you great video
Personally. I will never fish off my wave runner. 2021 vx cruiser. I will use my boat. For anything more than $15k. You can have a nice boat and a ski.
The main thing I'd like fixed/added is the ability to run straight while trolling and facing backwards, that or the ability to face rearward and steer so you can watch your rods. I rigged up a cooler and rod holders on my 2008 FX/SHO and trolled off Guam and kept getting nearly spooled by Yellowfin Tuna before I noticed the bite. If one could do that I'd buy it.
Sea-Doo does great industrial design. The cooler box is easier to step over on the Sea-Doo than it is on the Yamaha. The practicality - and the thought - that went into the Sea-Doo is incredible.
i own a 2019 yammie waverunner FXSVHO. it is NOT a fishing platform. the front storage is absolutely useless when you out fishing far from shore. Dont get me wrong, it is a great ski. Bolting on a high fish-box on the back makes it unstable and hard if not impossible to board should you fall off, especially when you 2 up. if you going to fish off it a lot, go fish-pro. only viable solution to the waverunner is those bolt on side tubbies but that defeats the other purpose of a jetski, as you cant go hooning around if the hoon in you wants to play.
I own an FXHO with Tubbys fitted (Shoreline Yamaha Brisbane) and it's ultra stable, has huge storage and is light years ahead of anything else. Full access from the rear and so much more.
For 20k you might as well get a used center console boat thats more comfortable and can carry a few people. When it boils down to it, it’s still just a jet ski.
I'm in the market for one of these but I've also thought hard of your comment. I reached a conclusion where I wanted something that fit in my garage or don't want something bigger. It is probably easier for me to operate and putting it on and off the water on my own. Also cost less to operate and maintain, though I'm unsure of this as i have never owned a jetski or a boat. I have a family of 4 but I'll be the only person on it 95 percent of the time and the rest is just me and one of my sons or wifey.. The only thing that's holding be back a little on one of these is exactly what you said, the high price, however, I am able to afford it.
In trying to decide which one to get for offshore fishing and snorkeling out of Florida east coast, even though I like Yamaha products, it seems they went half ass on coming up with a fishing Jetski, I guess it was all done in trying to get some Sea doo fishing customers. The fact that accessing the front storage is a pain in calm water, I cant imagine what it would be like with rolling waves offshore plus the rear deck is not spacious enough for extra gas with a cooler already there. The Yamaha with a bigger engine equates to high fuel consumption which is something I dont need when going offshore, again, they took a Jetski, put a cooler, rod holders and a fish finder and call it a Yamaha fishing Jetski, nothing wrong with it, but it doesnt have fishing practicality. Yamaha needs to build a real fishing Jet ski not some half ass for a target customer, you are going to loose more potential customers going that way.
Seadoo hands down. If you're going offshore I'd suggest adding an extra battery and a bilge pump no matter which one you get. That and go through all of the factory hose connections on the motor and hull and reinforce them so you don't take on water. It's a big ocean out there and things can go wrong on a moments notice. Best to be prepared.
U forgot to mention that because the seadoo is longer u can actually go further out to sea as it’s classed as a boat where as the Yamaha being less then 3.7m restricts how far out your allowed to go. Having said that I can full send my yam through pretty decent chop and it’s so forgiving and soft riding so I’m happy with my choice 🤙🏻🤙🏻
Thanks for your feedback. That's good to know. In Australia, watercraft length is not necessarily a requirement for how far you can ride offshore. But the vessel and rider must have the right safety provisions. Both of these watercraft have their strengths and weaknesses. We love the ergonomics of the Sea-Doo and prefer the way the Yamaha FX (2019 onwards) cuts through chop. We can see merit in both, and buyers will make their own choices based on the type of riding they do.
@@aquaticaddictions9902 Thanks for the note. That's good to know. I just looked up the information for WA. All Jet Skis can be operated in the ocean within 5 nautical miles (or within 1 nautical mile of an island that is further offshore). The 2019-onwards Yamaha FX is 3.58 metres in length and the Sea-Soo Fish Pro 170 (Sport and Trophy) is 3.73 metres in length. Looks like the Fish Pro misses out by 2cm. Here is the WA Government description of the rules: "A person in charge of a vessel less than (including personal watercraft) may not go further than five (5) nautical miles from land. However you can operate the vessel within 1 nautical mile of an island located more than five nautical miles from the mainland shore."
Maybe they weren’t available for 2020 but you failed to touch on two key features for a fishing boat. Seadoo’s iDF debris removal feature to clear weeds from the intake and the trolling feature for consistency and hands free throttle operation. Does the Yamaha have either of these?
The yamaha does not have the IDF, but it does have a feature like trolling. 1 push of a button and its 1 mile an hour. Slow enough for troll fishing...
Sea-Doo does great industrial design and the 1630cc three-cylinder delivers great fuel economy. Yamaha and Kawasaki do great (responsive) hulls. Just need to choose what's most important as a rider. Thanks for the feedback.
I am a Yamaha NUT but for a fact sea do is way better design especialy with the easy acces to storage yamaha is a pain in the ass the reach over to open storage . The only thing is would never buy a seadoo for so much money because it doesnt have the 300hp motor for the money there asking i want the bigger motor!
Yamaha should copy the fishpro platform and bury Seadoo. Fishpro has perfect platform, nice flat extended rear deck and storage that opens right in front of you, but I wouldn't trust their quality control, reliability, or the company having your back.
The Sea-Doo Fish Pro is a triumph of industrial design. Yamaha has since taken its first steps into this area with the RecDeck accessories for 2022 (that will bolt on to all FX models since 2019). Can't wait to see how both Sea-Doo and Yamaha continue to evolve these designs. Now we just need Kawasaki to get in on the action and consumers will be spoiled for choice.
How do they compete on reliability? What's the servicing cost of each unit? Regular servicing requirements, how many hours until you need them overhauled etc? I always hear Yamaha is better in reliability?
As far as service goes after a few years parts are no longer available. All jet ski companies do this to cut out faulty skis that don't need to be on the water.
As far as reliability on water goes sea doo is way better. Like I said they're dedicated specifically for these machines they don't make anything other than this. That being said reason why they're stiff on water is because of the anti roll design. You can literally stand on any part of the ski and it will never roll unless you force it.
Oooo and as a bonus because sea doo is dedicated to skis and jet powered boat types that means the fastest skis on the water is nearly half the price of the competition. I already checked.
Thanks for the note. Both skis are great, it depends on the type of riding you're planning. From what we gather, most Jet Ski manufacturers design hulls for flat water (rivers and lakes), but Australian Jet Ski riders have a higher focus on ocean riding (Jet Skis are banned, for example, on Sydney Harbour and linked inland waterways). We wish all three Jet Ski brands - Sea-Doo, Yamaha and Kawasaki - would do more testing in choppy conditions.
For bass fishing this won’t work. Which I thought converting one of these years ago. Missing front standing /seating front with trolling motor. Otherwise looks like gray machine.
Thanks for the feedback. Both models have their strengths and weaknesses. Since this video was published, Yamaha has introduced a new RecDeck for 2022 FX models (to add more fishing accessories) and Sea-Doo has released a Trophy edition of the Fish Pro for 2022. We will be sure to test these as soon as we can.
Yamaha has been playing catch up with Sea Doo for years now. I remember when Sea Doo launched the Spark. Yamaha made some UA-cam vids trashing the Spark for its "plastic" hull. Fast forward, Yamaha comes out with their own "proprietary" plastic hull that they knocked Sea Doo for. They were also late with IBR. Yamaha still has the most useless storage on the market and they have nothing that competes with Sea Doo's IDF. Sea Doo is solving problems that matter to the rider. Yamaha, is simply copying Sea Doo. I say all this, as a Yamaha owner.
My 08 still as the factory seal .Just can't be an idiot, and over heat the carbon seal with the ski out of the water. Mine has 175 hrs. , and still rips like the day I bought it. Besides, when the pump is running , it will suck the hull dry in a second. Another thing, is that you take the seat off to let the hull dry out any water when your done riding, and at that time, check for any excessive water in the hull. It's all about maintenance, and common sense. Anybody that's been around boats, know things to look for. I've had many I/O boats in my lifetime, and you have to check the shift cable, exhaust, and drive bellows every year for tears in the rubber, or your going to sink. My original bellows on my last boat lasted 15yrs., and the EBay replacements almost sunk my 19ft boat in 6months. I always buy original boat parts from that point on. Same with the Doo if I need parts, dealer parts all the way.
I tried to buy either one but none available in Pensacola. Does anybody know how to order one?i have never seen the world this way. People are suddenly rich and goods are hard to find and buy
I have a Sea-Doo gtx which is the same platform, it’s unbelievably stable for a PWC. Wouldn’t worry about stability when fishing solo. With 2 people might be less stable but you can’t really expect anything better on a jet ski. Definitely won’t worry about flipping sideways even when loaded up
In our experience, the Sea-Doo Fish Pro 170 uses fuel at a rate of about 45L/100km (in our testing, in ocean conditions) while the Yamaha FX HO 1.8 uses fuel at a rate of about 50L/100km. Rider weight, riding conditions, speed and how often you accelerate can all affect consumption. This is our experience riding both skis over extended periods of time. Thanks for your query.
The only JetSki riders that Fish out of them slowdown you give way of other people fishing 🎣. Normal JetSki riders don’t forget the 60 meter distance. Floggin past
My 08 Seadoo has never let me down yet,can't find a reason to buy a new ski? Seadoo is simple to work on too, I love the Rotax engines, had one on my ultralight airplane too.
@@stereolababy might as well be on a floating raft made of trees . Anyone can fish on anything. The looks of a PWC matter ! And the FX is just more sexy
If that's your experience, that's absolutely a fair comment and we appreciate the feedback. We based our observations on 60-plus hours in rough ocean on a Sea-Doo ST3 and 100-plus hours in rough ocean on a Yamaha FX.
I've had Seadoos, Yamahas, Kawasaki. Very far out in very rough waters (New Jersey). I am never, ever getting anything else than a Yamaha waverunner.. Nothing handles like it, and nothing is as reliable.. period..
Thanks for your feedback. We enjoy the Yamaha FX and the Kawasaki Ultra hulls the most in rough water, though the Sea-Doo ST3 range of skis is also good in low to medium chop.
I seen a school of big hammerhead sharks attack a big jet ski with a guy on it he barely escaped with his life.A boater saved him.large sharks are attacking water crafts with a vengence .And smaller crafts like kayak, boards,skiers, ect are dangerous.
Thanks for your feedback. We've ridden both. We're comfortable with the deep V on the ST3 Sea-Doo when the fuel tank is full, but in our experience it starts to bounce around as soon as the fuel load lightens over the nose. In our experience, the Yamaha FX is more neutral and more accurate in chop, though the 2023 FX HO now needs to have the trim down because the deep cut in the new ride plate sticks the nose in the air. All that said, we respect and understand different riders have different riding styles. Thanks for sharing your experience. It shows the Jet Ski community that there are plenty of differing views. And that's ok too.
coming from a dealer tech. take all that fishing shit off before you take it into your dealer for any service !!! the more time spent by the tech having to take that stuff off just costs YOU money and aggravates him ( me) accessories piss me off!!!! even if it doesn't have to come off,, the ease off access having it off saves so much time, even for " simple" service
That is 100% correct , I would NEVER buy a Seadoo because they have terrible reliability where Yamaha is universally known to be the most reliable . The overwhelming majority of offshore boats like the Yellowfin brand always have big monster YAMAHA outboards for their incredible reliability .
@@Mr-ts8il actually I'm a Kawasaki fan but I have many friends that have seadoos Yamahas and Kawasakis and guess which ones break way way more you guessed it seadoos!
Yeah it happens a bit down here. They don't call it Treasure Island for nothing. It was better when the Australian dollar was at parity with the US dollar, but those days are long gone. That said, demand for Jet Skis and PWCs is still as strong as ever, despite the recent round of price rises.
@@WatercraftZonehell, this comment from you rings true even more so in 2023. Aussie dollar is diving and price increase percentage in Australia is crazy in comparison
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Something they didn't talk about is the LinQ fishing bin on the Fish Pro can be mounted on the LinQ tabs behind the seat, rather than the very back of the craft. This makes it incredibly easy to re-board if you come off. Combined with the non slip mat on top of the bin, it is safer to climb over as well.
That's a good point and we should have highlighted it. We'll be sure to go into more detail once we revisit the 2022 models.
I've been waiting 4 months for My Fish Pro to come in and I finally get to pick it up tomorrow. Seeing these two side by side I'm really glad I went with the Sea-Doo. The Yamaha is a Waverunner with some fishing stuff bolted to it. The Sea- Doo is a well thought out fishing platform that happens to be a ski. Nicely done video!
Have 12 hours on mine. You’re gonna absolutely LOVE it!! I, too, am glad I went with the Fish Pro. Factory integration backed by a warranty is where it’s at! And LOVE the HUGE transom! Awesome machine!
@@Pilot545 I’m going to break it in this weekend on the Oregon Coast. I can’t wait!!!
@@NorthwestSawyer Sounds cold! We are on the opposite coast in Florida. Haha. Have fun!! Check out the ActiveCaptain app too when you get a chance. It’s the Garmin app. You’ll need a micro SD card (no bigger than 32 GB). Also, my steering was slightly out of alignment but Sea Doo made it super easy to adjust. Couple of UA-cam vids out there. Stay warm, my friend! Leave a comment here to let me know what you think. 😊
@@NorthwestSawyer btw, what they said in the vid about the nose being pushed a bit in moderate to rough chop at an angle is legit but it’s nothing crazy. Just a minor steering correction that you’re likely doing naturally anyway.
@@Pilot545 it’s a PWC that can handle rough water. What else do you need?😬
I used to pull a 10' soft bottom (inflatable floor) Zodiac behind a Yamaha Cruiser SHO. Could carry everything I needed in the Zodiac, and could refuel on the water by disconnecting the inflatable and tying it up along side the ski. The inflatable gives you close to an extra 900 lbs. of carrying capacity. Bottom line, you end up with a more capable, and one hell of a lot safer outfit on the water. Now you can go for a "Grander" .......... enjoy!
very interesting idea, need to check this out, thanks!
If you need to haul inflatable, then jetski looses purpose, better to get an actual boat, you can't go fast, and you end up doing twice the work in loading, unloading, maintaining if you need a whole dinghy for this. Im still undecided between stabicraft or fishing jetski
My 2 cents, good review. We have a 2020 wave runner fxho jet fish, it is a lovely ski. I do like it, BUT, it is a tippy platform and not the best load carrying platform. I have had to abandon ship rather than tip it with 2 up, 5 rods with hooks flailing around, and a 70l chilli bin, was a work to climb up over the back and remount the ski. I fish along side a fish pro, it is by far the supeior fishing platform. The wave runner is a touring ski not a fishing ski, I do hope yamaha design a dedicated fishing ski with longer higher hull, more stability and load carrying. We are big yamaha fans having owned bikes and outboards.
I am a huge Yamaha fan as well, I own a 2004 fxho MR1 1100. After all these yrs she's still good to go
I don't have stability problems, I fish the west coast at Wanganui and other likely places around the central nth island, have been in some very tough water, she's all good. I don't have my bait board mounted east west but inline, so if diving, a remount is quite easy. She also has a bow rail and side rails for handling in rough beach launches, makes a huge difference. She also has foot well electric pumps for fighting fish in rough water when your foot wells might become flooded. That has happened to me several times. She also has a higher custom made dash hood to stop huge water hitting me in the face on those rough but fishable day's. That custom dash also helps with the wind blast. Because she's an older heavier craft she handles tough water very well, but is susceptible to a nose dive in a following sea. I am designing a wave breaker to fit to the bow rail to stop this. After owning a Yamaha and trying out a new profisher, I would not swap to seadoo. I don't like that skiddy feeling of the seadoo, foot wells hold far to much water and they wonder around alot causing steering corrections on all but flat water becoming a bit laborious over long rides in rough water, but I have never lived with one so don't really know about them, just the odd ride. What I did not like about it at all, is the extended rear platform, when sitting backwards, fishing, everything is just a little out of reach when the box is in the rear position, in the close position, the platform may as well not be extended. Having had that rant, I never fish two up, tried it once, never again. Might see you out there one day.
@@atticushexcel9567 Just in case you don't comprehend well, my ski is 16yrs older, unless you're looking for a near vintage ski, my words have nothing to do with a 2020 ski. I have been lucky enough to own my old jet ski for 17 yrs, that should help you with reliability but not much else. My statement was a comparison between old and new Yamaha ski's and has nothing to do with helping you make up your mind.
I bought a SEA DOO FishPro in June 2021 and quickly got renamed to SEA DONT. From the boat ramp on the first outing, the DONT went exactly .9 miles and lost thrust while the engine rpm increased at the same time (think of stepping on the clutch), so I quickly released the throttle at which time it cut off and would not restart. So to the dealership it went, and continues to call home, 6 weeks later and onward. So basically at $17,000 dollars a mile, I would not purchase this machine, not to mention, being off shore or on an epic trip like in the video. The IDF feature had a recall that left the dealership not repaired and oh by the way, that recall is pretty intense, so most dealerships are going to let you fail on the water because of the nature of the repair and in my case, lost power and was floating with my daughter in a major pass for boats, ships, Yamaha's, Honda's, basically any watercraft that actually works. Oh by the way, if you try to return it to the dealership BRP has already nail your A$$ shut with a clause that states this POS is yours no matter what.. ugh, think twice. You might not know who BRP is (Canada peeps), but you will as your brain aches on calls that you should not have to be making. So basically, SEA TOW insurance ($1,000 per year) + SEA DONT = NOT A GOOD IDEA.
You do know you can modify any contract. Also you can't just full throttle a brand new motor you gotta break it in first.
@@pain_weaver I understand modifications on contracts. Checks. We never got the Sea Don’t above 7 knots, let alone breaking it in. After the .9 mile outing described above, the jet ski spent 5 weeks in the shop to make the recall happen. Haven’t had a problem since, but I don’t trust it. Added dual batteries as well.
@@michaelbrantley8892 I would have checked recalls first. Then force them to fix it before taking possession.
Hindsight being 20/20, yes.
I own an FXHO with Tubbys fitted and nothing gets close to it for fishing.
Full access from the rear and massive storage.
are tubbies good for stability?
Dont agree... The fishpro is way better in chop!! The fishpros deep V cuts through and disperses the water out and behind the rider, where-as the yammy doesn't really have a V. The rounded hull slaps and disperses the water almost forward and if its windy your in for a wet ride. The nose on the yammy is also very close to the waterline so expect to take a couple of waves over the front. Been out on multiple rides in tough conditions and my mates on yammys have always turned up drenched, while iv only taken minor wind spray. Yes the fishpros handling is not as crisp and the deep V occasionally causes it to bow steer, and not track as true but its a small sacrifice for a drier, more comfortable ride. Sorry for the long winded answer, just my two cents from someone who has a lot of time in the saddle of both machines, not just someone who's taken them for a quick 10min trial 🤙
rich. i have recently bought the 21 fishpro. and coming from fxho. i have to say the fishpro has done nothing but disappoint me in the handling and ride. compared to my old 17 fx. to the point i have only put 5hrs on it and seriously doubt i,ll put more on it. my 1st issue with the fishpro was bow steer. how ever that has been addressed with some aftermarket sponsons.that made a huge difference. my 2nd issue and now my biggest. is porpoising. no matter how much i change the trim it will not settle. even in flat sea conditions with next to no wind. have you experienced this on the fishpro? and if so is there a solution?
💯 agree. Drier ride. Softer ride. More stable. You can improve tracking by adjusting speed, trim and approach angle. ST3 all the way bro.
Yep. I’ve got the 19 yammy fx cruiser and my mates all have fish pros. I’ve done some big days in psycho weather and I’m ALWAYS the one who’s wet and miserable. And don’t even get me started on the stability comparison between the two 🤦♂️
@@tonyking8446 Hi Tony, sorry for the delayed response. Great to hear the sponsons improved your tracking, which sponsons did you go for? In regards to proposing I have not had any issues at all regardless of how I load it. Give me a few more details; what speed does it porpose at? Does it do both with and without the cooler? How is it loaded? Do you buy any chance have water in the hull or any damage that may cause the water to not travel over it efficiently? Look forward to hearing from you.
The Sea-Doo Fish Pro does indeed have a "deep V" hull and, of the Sea-Doo line-up, it's the best in choppy conditions. That said, the Sea-Doo's "deep V" can also get caught out a little by bow hunting, when riding diagonally across chop. The Yamaha FX hull is more forgiving when you have no choice but to ride diagonally across chop. Both struggle in severe swell. Both are pretty good in 1 to 2 metre swell, depending on wave intervals. Though I would lean towards the current Yamaha FX if ocean riding was the priority.
I usually prefer Yamaha but when it comes to fishing I think the sea doo might be better
thank you very much I have been looking at both of these models. its great to finally see a unbiased comparison of these two models. thank you great video
Personally. I will never fish off my wave runner. 2021 vx cruiser. I will use my boat. For anything more than $15k. You can have a nice boat and a ski.
The main thing I'd like fixed/added is the ability to run straight while trolling and facing backwards, that or the ability to face rearward and steer so you can watch your rods. I rigged up a cooler and rod holders on my 2008 FX/SHO and trolled off Guam and kept getting nearly spooled by Yellowfin Tuna before I noticed the bite. If one could do that I'd buy it.
Yamaha is probably more reliable but Seadoo is much better looking and has better features. The LinQ system is elite
Sea-Doo does great industrial design. The cooler box is easier to step over on the Sea-Doo than it is on the Yamaha. The practicality - and the thought - that went into the Sea-Doo is incredible.
i own a 2019 yammie waverunner FXSVHO. it is NOT a fishing platform. the front storage is absolutely useless when you out fishing far from shore. Dont get me wrong, it is a great ski. Bolting on a high fish-box on the back makes it unstable and hard if not impossible to board should you fall off, especially when you 2 up. if you going to fish off it a lot, go fish-pro. only viable solution to the waverunner is those bolt on side tubbies but that defeats the other purpose of a jetski, as you cant go hooning around if the hoon in you wants to play.
Objective advice 👍🏼
I own an FXHO with Tubbys fitted (Shoreline Yamaha Brisbane) and it's ultra stable, has huge storage and is light years ahead of anything else. Full access from the rear and so much more.
@@LongStraightLines tubby's not available in NZ at a price that would not make your eye water !! ;-) expensive option.
Just seeing how the Fish Pro sits in the water on the thumbnail is enough to know Sea-Doo rocks.
Yamaha is late to the game
Excellent unbiased and objective water craft comparison...liked it a lot. Well done indeed 👍
i'm a yamaha owner but i have to say i really like what i see in this seadoo.
For 20k you might as well get a used center console boat thats more comfortable and can carry a few people. When it boils down to it, it’s still just a jet ski.
I'm in the market for one of these but I've also thought hard of your comment. I reached a conclusion where I wanted something that fit in my garage or don't want something bigger. It is probably easier for me to operate and putting it on and off the water on my own. Also cost less to operate and maintain, though I'm unsure of this as i have never owned a jetski or a boat. I have a family of 4 but I'll be the only person on it 95 percent of the time and the rest is just me and one of my sons or wifey..
The only thing that's holding be back a little on one of these is exactly what you said, the high price, however, I am able to afford it.
In trying to decide which one to get for offshore fishing and snorkeling out of Florida east coast, even though I like Yamaha products, it seems they went half ass on coming up with a fishing Jetski, I guess it was all done in trying to get some Sea doo fishing customers. The fact that accessing the front storage is a pain in calm water, I cant imagine what it would be like with rolling waves offshore plus the rear deck is not spacious enough for extra gas with a cooler already there. The Yamaha with a bigger engine equates to high fuel consumption which is something I dont need when going offshore, again, they took a Jetski, put a cooler, rod holders and a fish finder and call it a Yamaha fishing Jetski, nothing wrong with it, but it doesnt have fishing practicality. Yamaha needs to build a real fishing Jet ski not some half ass for a target customer, you are going to loose more potential customers going that way.
Go look at both and buy the SeaDoo
Seadoo hands down. If you're going offshore I'd suggest adding an extra battery and a bilge pump no matter which one you get. That and go through all of the factory hose connections on the motor and hull and reinforce them so you don't take on water. It's a big ocean out there and things can go wrong on a moments notice. Best to be prepared.
I love the Seadoo. I look forward to seeing the 2021 model
I took both out and purchased Seadoo. Sits so much better in the water in during swells and I like lower sitting position. No regrets
I am so ready to buy a 2021 fish pro but every dealer in Fl I go to tells me they will have none for sale until next yr.. what the heck Sea-Doo??????
U forgot to mention that because the seadoo is longer u can actually go further out to sea as it’s classed as a boat where as the Yamaha being less then 3.7m restricts how far out your allowed to go. Having said that I can full send my yam through pretty decent chop and it’s so forgiving and soft riding so I’m happy with my choice 🤙🏻🤙🏻
Thanks for your feedback. That's good to know. In Australia, watercraft length is not necessarily a requirement for how far you can ride offshore. But the vessel and rider must have the right safety provisions. Both of these watercraft have their strengths and weaknesses. We love the ergonomics of the Sea-Doo and prefer the way the Yamaha FX (2019 onwards) cuts through chop. We can see merit in both, and buyers will make their own choices based on the type of riding they do.
@@WatercraftZone I’m from Australia mate and in WA that’s law :)
@@aquaticaddictions9902 Thanks for the note. That's good to know. I just looked up the information for WA. All Jet Skis can be operated in the ocean within 5 nautical miles (or within 1 nautical mile of an island that is further offshore). The 2019-onwards Yamaha FX is 3.58 metres in length and the Sea-Soo Fish Pro 170 (Sport and Trophy) is 3.73 metres in length. Looks like the Fish Pro misses out by 2cm. Here is the WA Government description of the rules: "A person in charge of a vessel less than (including personal watercraft) may not go further than five (5) nautical miles from land. However you can operate the vessel within 1 nautical mile of an island located more than five nautical miles from the mainland shore."
Maybe they weren’t available for 2020 but you failed to touch on two key features for a fishing boat. Seadoo’s iDF debris removal feature to clear weeds from the intake and the trolling feature for consistency and hands free throttle operation. Does the Yamaha have either of these?
Idf is a game changer.
The yamaha does not have the IDF, but it does have a feature like trolling. 1 push of a button and its 1 mile an hour. Slow enough for troll fishing...
@@nookied3735 no it isn't.all the idf is good for is weed and mud. both of which don't need the idf.
@@ericlechleitner74 trolling cranks requires speeds between 1.5 to 3 mph.
@@pain_weaver Nobody trolls anything at 3mph lol...7 mph minimum for any type of bait/lure.
I have a 17' Fx HO and made my own fish system. I wish they would come out with a decent sound system for it.
They have now mate: jetskijunk.co.nz/product/yamaha-2019-fx-bluetooth-speaker-set/
Yamaha is in the catch-up game Sea-Doo is doing their thing and with Sea-Doos new model with the rotating seat Yamaha don’t have a chance
This is the only case I’ll admit Sea Doo has an edge over Yamaha … they really do Innovate like no other in the industry
Sea-Doo does great industrial design and the 1630cc three-cylinder delivers great fuel economy. Yamaha and Kawasaki do great (responsive) hulls. Just need to choose what's most important as a rider. Thanks for the feedback.
Great video, thanks! 🙏🏻
I am a Yamaha NUT but for a fact sea do is way better design especialy with the easy acces to storage yamaha is a pain in the ass the reach over to open storage . The only thing is would never buy a seadoo for so much money because it doesnt have the 300hp motor for the money there asking i want the bigger motor!
Yamaha should copy the fishpro platform and bury Seadoo. Fishpro has perfect platform, nice flat extended rear deck and storage that opens right in front of you, but I wouldn't trust their quality control, reliability, or the company having your back.
The Sea-Doo Fish Pro is a triumph of industrial design. Yamaha has since taken its first steps into this area with the RecDeck accessories for 2022 (that will bolt on to all FX models since 2019). Can't wait to see how both Sea-Doo and Yamaha continue to evolve these designs. Now we just need Kawasaki to get in on the action and consumers will be spoiled for choice.
Seadoo all the way!
Seadoo is a seadont..Yamaha machines are waaay better
@@dls1423 I’ve had a Yamaha, Honda an a seadoo...
Yamaha gave me the most problems...
@@edjohn4590 wow really?? That is the first time I’ve ever heard that. Good to know thx
@@dls1423 not saying anyone is better then the other.. any machine can give issues... just my experience..
Agreed. If you want a softer and drier ride go the ST3 Seadoo.
How do they compete on reliability? What's the servicing cost of each unit? Regular servicing requirements, how many hours until you need them overhauled etc? I always hear Yamaha is better in reliability?
Not really sea doo is dedicated to these times of engines.
Yamaha is a trick of all trades company. Ie bikes 4 wheelers exct.
As far as service goes after a few years parts are no longer available. All jet ski companies do this to cut out faulty skis that don't need to be on the water.
As far as reliability on water goes sea doo is way better. Like I said they're dedicated specifically for these machines they don't make anything other than this. That being said reason why they're stiff on water is because of the anti roll design. You can literally stand on any part of the ski and it will never roll unless you force it.
Oooo and as a bonus because sea doo is dedicated to skis and jet powered boat types that means the fastest skis on the water is nearly half the price of the competition. I already checked.
That Yamaha has high performance engine in a fishing jet ski season actual focus on the type
So which one would you buy?
Ok so even though most people side with sea do, running through choppy waters is done better by Yamaha, which is very important in rough ocean.
Thanks for the note. Both skis are great, it depends on the type of riding you're planning. From what we gather, most Jet Ski manufacturers design hulls for flat water (rivers and lakes), but Australian Jet Ski riders have a higher focus on ocean riding (Jet Skis are banned, for example, on Sydney Harbour and linked inland waterways). We wish all three Jet Ski brands - Sea-Doo, Yamaha and Kawasaki - would do more testing in choppy conditions.
What would you recommend: Seadoo gti 170 se 2021 or Yamaha vx cruiser ho 2021 for salt and rough water use only (sea, ocean)
Many thanks
Seadoo gtx not gti
I'm buying a gtx 230 Saturday an turn it into a fishing pwc
Give me the Yamaha all day long
No doubt about it , Seadoo's have always been known to have major reliability issues Yamaha is the exact opposite .
For bass fishing this won’t work. Which I thought converting one of these years ago. Missing front standing
/seating front with trolling motor. Otherwise looks like gray machine.
Should put a Ipilot gps held troll motor integrated
whats the difference in service, reliability and longevity between seadoo's rotax and yami's I4?
Great review
Great video. Very helpful
Thanks for the feedback. Both models have their strengths and weaknesses. Since this video was published, Yamaha has introduced a new RecDeck for 2022 FX models (to add more fishing accessories) and Sea-Doo has released a Trophy edition of the Fish Pro for 2022. We will be sure to test these as soon as we can.
Yamaha has been playing catch up with Sea Doo for years now. I remember when Sea Doo launched the Spark. Yamaha made some UA-cam vids trashing the Spark for its "plastic" hull. Fast forward, Yamaha comes out with their own "proprietary" plastic hull that they knocked Sea Doo for. They were also late with IBR. Yamaha still has the most useless storage on the market and they have nothing that competes with Sea Doo's IDF. Sea Doo is solving problems that matter to the rider. Yamaha, is simply copying Sea Doo.
I say all this, as a Yamaha owner.
Hahahaha you’re kidding ?!
@@scottwilliamson7141 no Yamaha is just sea doo’s copy cat
IBR is a failure
@@marshallmacdougall8152 IBR is an unrivaled innovation, and very reliable
@@TOUCTI yes and sky is red
I use to love Yamaha but the sea doo fish pro all day
Fishing is so dangerous that you need gloves and helmet!
deadliest sport in the world, look it up
The Yamaha won't crack a seal and sink like the seadoo LOL
My 08 still as the factory seal .Just can't be an idiot, and over heat the carbon seal with the ski out of the water. Mine has 175 hrs. , and still rips like the day I bought it. Besides, when the pump is running , it will suck the hull dry in a second. Another thing, is that you take the seat off to let the hull dry out any water when your done riding, and at that time, check for any excessive water in the hull. It's all about maintenance, and common sense. Anybody that's been around boats, know things to look for. I've had many I/O boats in my lifetime, and you have to check the shift cable, exhaust, and drive bellows every year for tears in the rubber, or your going to sink. My original bellows on my last boat lasted 15yrs., and the EBay replacements almost sunk my 19ft boat in 6months. I always buy original boat parts from that point on. Same with the Doo if I need parts, dealer parts all the way.
I like seado jetski,it's verry cool to ride..
Can you use sea doo fish pro for tow sports?
I tried to buy either one but none available in Pensacola. Does anybody know how to order one?i have never seen the world this way. People are suddenly rich and goods are hard to find and buy
I was hoping to see how stable they were when standing on the side, especially with a fish on or maybe 2 people fishing.
I have a Sea-Doo gtx which is the same platform, it’s unbelievably stable for a PWC. Wouldn’t worry about stability when fishing solo. With 2 people might be less stable but you can’t really expect anything better on a jet ski. Definitely won’t worry about flipping sideways even when loaded up
Yammy has almost no stability compared to the fishpro
What is the difference in the Milage you get for your 70L of fuel ????
In our experience, the Sea-Doo Fish Pro 170 uses fuel at a rate of about 45L/100km (in our testing, in ocean conditions) while the Yamaha FX HO 1.8 uses fuel at a rate of about 50L/100km. Rider weight, riding conditions, speed and how often you accelerate can all affect consumption. This is our experience riding both skis over extended periods of time. Thanks for your query.
@@WatercraftZone thanks for the help
Hmmm the Yamaha rolls over so easily. It’s unstable at rest and has a lovely wet ride. I’ll take the Fish Pro any day.
The only JetSki riders that Fish out of them slowdown you give way of other people fishing 🎣. Normal JetSki riders don’t forget the 60 meter distance. Floggin past
What's the range?
Price .?
Why can't there be a bait well next to the cooler?
Great suggestion. That appears to be addressed as an option for the 2022 Sea-Doo Fish Pro Trophy edition.
Been thinking about rigging up a jetski for offshore fishing. Neither of these seem to fit the bill
Can’t go past the fish pro. Nothing better on the market
Been offshore fishing heap on my fishpro mate. "fits the bill" very well
I've been looking at some of the Yamaha cruisers. They're dry rides and good on fuel
@@stevenw76 I’ve got a 19 yammy fx cruiser ho. Nothing dry about it
i would choose the Yamaha over the seadoo since seadoo has very poor reliability issues i would choose Kawasaki over the Yamaha for fishing
SeaDoo for storage and deck size.
Yamaha for power, ride, and reliability.
My 08 Seadoo has never let me down yet,can't find a reason to buy a new ski? Seadoo is simple to work on too, I love the Rotax engines, had one on my ultralight airplane too.
Wave runner looks better
and thats important when fishing
@@stereolababy 🤣
OMG LOL.
@@stereolababy might as well be on a floating raft made of trees . Anyone can fish on anything. The looks of a PWC matter ! And the FX is just more sexy
@@mariap6271 you're looking for a different kind of tail i guess
A yam is far more robust than a seadoo
Beautiful boat
There's no watercraft that offers great stability in choppy waters like seadoo. Yamaha is good but the fish pro is just a tad bit better imo.
If that's your experience, that's absolutely a fair comment and we appreciate the feedback. We based our observations on 60-plus hours in rough ocean on a Sea-Doo ST3 and 100-plus hours in rough ocean on a Yamaha FX.
Would be cool in safe waters with no creatures to attack you.
Can u stock fish n beer in the cooler at the same time
Hmmmm. Maybe, but the beer might taste kinda funny.
Nice but look at the price 18.000 EUR, then you can better buy a boat
Seadoo for the win!!!!
Good job
All that is missing is a trolling motor
20k not worth it should be around 12k
12K is still way too much for these things.
And bass boats aren't worth 65K either, but whatcha you going to do?
I've had Seadoos, Yamahas, Kawasaki. Very far out in very rough waters (New Jersey). I am never, ever getting anything else than a Yamaha waverunner.. Nothing handles like it, and nothing is as reliable.. period..
Thanks for your feedback. We enjoy the Yamaha FX and the Kawasaki Ultra hulls the most in rough water, though the Sea-Doo ST3 range of skis is also good in low to medium chop.
Needs Jetleds lights
If this was FARK! I would funny that remark - LoL
costs
The yamaha is the better fishing water craft. The seadoo breaks down frequently, that's why nobody likes SeaDoo.
bought two seadoos, never again, going to yamaha for the next one, its easy to tell seadoo is cheaping out on the build quality
Nobody likes Seadoo ? Seadoo is the biggest seller of PWC in the world🤣
shame the new seadoo is miles ahead of both of these it already makes this seadoo look 10 years old
I seen a school of big hammerhead sharks attack a big jet ski with a guy on it he barely escaped with his life.A boater saved him.large sharks are attacking water crafts with a vengence .And smaller crafts like kayak, boards,skiers, ect are dangerous.
BS....Hammerhead sharks don't attack boats
@@ozjuice And don't travel in "schools" lol...
I'm sorry but a round hull will not work in choppy water. I'll take a deep v in choppy water all day long
Thanks for your feedback. We've ridden both. We're comfortable with the deep V on the ST3 Sea-Doo when the fuel tank is full, but in our experience it starts to bounce around as soon as the fuel load lightens over the nose.
In our experience, the Yamaha FX is more neutral and more accurate in chop, though the 2023 FX HO now needs to have the trim down because the deep cut in the new ride plate sticks the nose in the air.
All that said, we respect and understand different riders have different riding styles.
Thanks for sharing your experience. It shows the Jet Ski community that there are plenty of differing views. And that's ok too.
coming from a dealer tech. take all that fishing shit off before you take it into your dealer for any service !!! the more time spent by the tech having to take that stuff off just costs YOU money and aggravates him ( me) accessories piss me off!!!! even if it doesn't have to come off,, the ease off access having it off saves so much time, even for " simple" service
Thanks Chris that's great advice. Also means the customer has less chance of misplacing stuff. Thanks for the tip!
Crazy expensive...awesome though
Yamaha, yeah. Sea-don't
i love my 2019 fish pro its better then the yamaha by far
You have the Yamaha also?
@@sfera2157 no but i rented one at the tx coast
Not in reliability it ain't , not even remotely close.
U can buy a pontoon boat for that price.
These are waaaaaaaaaaay over priced!!!!
Thanks for your feedback. Keep in mind these are Australian prices. We would sure love to buy them in USD.
a pontoon around here that will do 50mph is over 100K these days and I know I wouldnt be out in the great lakes with a toon in 3 foot -5 foot rollers
cool
A alligator lounge chair lol
Yeh nah me Crusher holds more fish more gear and most importantly a bigger esky🍻
GOOD GOOD GOOD
Seadoo has been nothing but trouble since the company started
This is based on what exactly?
My brother bought a new xp limited, and the engine blew up. Seadoo would not warranty the engine. Shit company!
That is 100% correct , I would NEVER buy a Seadoo because they have terrible reliability where Yamaha is universally known to be the most reliable . The overwhelming majority of offshore boats like the Yellowfin brand always have big monster YAMAHA outboards for their incredible reliability .
Seadoo is real nice but yamaha will get you back home.
U most be a hard-core Yamaha fan. 😄😄😄😄
@@Mr-ts8il actually I'm a Kawasaki fan but I have many friends that have seadoos Yamahas and Kawasakis and guess which ones break way way more you guessed it seadoos!
Yamaha will get you back home every time , the brand was built on being the most reliable .
@@kevinwest1607 Seadoo's have terrible reliability , I would never ever take one offshore no way . I would take a Yamaha offshore no worries at all .
Do research on the folks that have jet ski rental businesses...you will find that the majority purchase Yamahas for a reason.
You never even tested fishing from them.. duh!!!
20k+ y’all are drunk.
Yeah it happens a bit down here. They don't call it Treasure Island for nothing. It was better when the Australian dollar was at parity with the US dollar, but those days are long gone. That said, demand for Jet Skis and PWCs is still as strong as ever, despite the recent round of price rises.
@@WatercraftZonehell, this comment from you rings true even more so in 2023. Aussie dollar is diving and price increase percentage in Australia is crazy in comparison
$20,000 just buy a boat
The last thing I do on a ski or kayak is fish
The Sea Doo is a small , ugly boat. The Yamaha is a sleek, sexy ski that you can have fun riding when not fishing.
SEE DO HANDS DOWN!
I agree Sea doo should get all hands down Yamaha will will be running perfectly a decade longer than a Seadoo , don't believe it , wait a while.
TOM PIPPS FOAM- BATON ROUGE LOUISIANA USA HI HELLO &
However However
Do you have to fish in the helmet and full body gear? What kind of idiot even wears that on a sea doo. Nobody
Make them electric and I’ll buy one!
Wack
should of gone with the Yamaha! the fishpro 2021 sucks balls
The biggest problem with Sea Doo is they have constant motor breakdowns , that's always been their reputation.
That seadoo front is so ugly
The Yamaha it's disgusting
The newer 2020/21 model is a blue color