Incorrect. Racism isnt racist against Inuits, or Eskimos as they are more common only called. They wanna have 47 words for snow?? Fine. We take away your definition of Racism. Douchebags with your tasty pies laughin at us when our Air Conditioning breaks. Smug bastards
@G ........pretty shocking that you yourself just demonstrated racism against Rogan......while claiming he couldnt experience racism. That paradox is shocking and really.shows a bad idealogy racists are pushing that your following. So because Joe is white and balding so he shaves his head........... you try to call him a skinhead neo nazi. Cool dude. Nothing racist about that at all lol. I gottta ask. Do they just take the standard KKK hoods and dye them black for your groups meetings or do they come that way? Cuz you sound ALOT like them.
@G Thats not racism you are referring to. Thats called oppression. Here is the webster dictionary's listing for oppression. And if you lolup the racism one on webster. It doesnt include anything at all about power. Stop pushing ignorance and lack of knowledge so you can justify beng a hateful person and get away with being a racist. Definition ofoppression 1a: unjust or cruel exercise of authority or powerthe continuing oppression of the … underclasses- H. A. Daniels
Jeffrey Youngblood if u read it twice u would be able to fell the atmosphere and mindset of the serie, and how that would be a posible line inside the series
Racism is an opinion generally held by those in power the goal is to end colonialism, in both the mind and the systematic practices. If Cush(Africa) globally was self sufficient we would not care what you think!
@@jeffreyyoungblood7438 How did you not get that he means that it could come from the world of that book not that it's an actual line? You might have read the book but maybe the atmosphere of that world went over your head?
@@jeffreyyoungblood7438 The book may not mention any line relating to racism but it contains in it a theme which could be possibly applied here. It is a lie that racism is prevalent as it was 50 years ago, not that it does not exist, and the lie that all white people have a privilege from which black people are deprived of, not that racism does not exist, is dangerous. Any remnants of racism must end but the methods that are adopted are simply stupid and ORWELLIAN or semi-orwellian..
Jeffrey Youngblood Wouldn’t you agree that putting some other goal above truth will always yield dishonest results? I think that might be the connection he is drawing. Serving the party above all else etc. Jonathan Haidt actually says something similar about academia. If the telos of a university is not knowledge/pursuit of truth but activism or ‘social justice’, they have assumed what is true and their pursuit of truth will suffer as a result. I think it’s a pretty good explanation of just how untethered from the observable world the far left has become.
@@luciano2284 the farmer is saying that the world is more complicated than college. we can't solve problems by canceling people. we need to listen to them and talk about problems in a civilize manner.
@@luciano2284 in the episode one of the main characters is hosting a benefit for shameless America, an organization who's trying to raise money to get iPads to impoverished people so they can filter out any negative online comments for Americans who want to live in safe places. So the personification of reality shows up and starts roasting the crowd over their sensitivity and he uses the quoted line to say the world doesn't care about your feelings or whatever you do to deny reality. The towns people then hang reality in the middle of town.
It really is, social privilege (we have to be specific) is circumstantial. Economic circumstances. Cultural circumstances. Psychological circumstances. There are so many variables, dynamics, and fluctuations, to being in a society, and they've always existed. I actually like the idea of "men's rights activists", ANTIFA, "it's okay to be white", as annoying and brash as those people can sometimes be. They help to highlight the feminine supremacists, the existence of a violent leftists, and anti-European sentiment we either notice, or pretend not to. *Nothing helps you (or a society) improve more than a mirror!* Social media has been *just that...*
It's just a way to dismiss anything a white person says. It's a conversation stopper. A trump card. No need to articulate your argument just dismiss the other person speaking.
When i was 19 and adult man was explaining this to me, that racism is race+position of power and i was like "im 19 still in school and work as a store clerk, what position of power do i have?"
@@briantroy7376 A Muslim can (and has) because it's their "culture." Father killed his daughter, something about how she disgraced the family. "Culture" was the legal defense. I think it was in California (sorry, no citation, I forget where I learned that).
Well there IS an important point to be made about that. For the folks [they] are trying to "sell" the race problem to, they either don't have an issue to begin with (which is the majority of us), or they're never going to change anyway. These new name-callers aren't CHANGING anyone. All they're doing is policing language. That has never turned out well for anyone except the FCC, the KGB, and the Catholic Church. ~JSV
I am 49 years old. I was in the Navy back in the early '90's, stationed in WA about an hour from Seattle. Me and some of my buddies were out one night in Tacoma, WA. I remember we were walking towards this building and were gonna walk behind it to get wherever we were going faster. As we approached the corner to turn behind the building, a black guy came from right where we were headed and he looked at us and said, "you better not go back there, your color might get you knocked out." We smiled, thanked him, and took the long way instead of the wrong way. His selfless act saved us from that form of racism. He didn't need to do that, but he did, and I've never forgotten it, nearly 30 years later.
When i was in A school at great lakes our Friday liberty brief from our black chief made it clear...if you find yourself in a part of Chicago where you're the only person of that color you better turn around. This was 08
@@daveortwine2641 it was 30 years ago, I was a kid in an unfamiliar area. The point of the story was the kindness of the man who advised us to go around.
I took the wrong way a few times back in the day, and got jumped at least once. Other times I mostly got harassed about having long hair, and apparently looking like "Bon Jovi" to my antagonists. And, of course I've been called "cracker" a few times. However, years later I lived in a low-income, mostly black neighborhood, and never had a problem with any of my neighbors. I suppose the moral of the story is that people of all colors have the potential to act unkindly to others based on race, and its up to the individual to resist actualizing that potential.
I know better what I hear from people, I know you think you are all knowing, but no. Getting told by a middle class white girl with a LV purse that YOU have had it easy in life because of your skin when you are barely surviving is not "about society". I am very sorry your feeling are hurt by the fact someone does not match your imagination about the world been quite literally black and white. But that is reality.
@@darkpassenger65 I dont see how commenting on somebody's personal comment on a topic is soposed to add to your personal thought, especially when it does pertain to subject matter of precognitive ideas of cruelty purely based on skin when the person just lays out there life story. Heads up I'm a conservative but you really just seemed to be mean about that
@@loganyates3923 its alright dude, very unintelligent people usually get very angry and start to hurl abuse at people when somebody does not agree with them. I very often get discriminated against because I am Polish as many other of my countrymen, but to the modern left, this is impossible. Because Polish people have white skin they must be some master race exploiting the poor brown people at the bottom. Despite the fact that having a polish surname especially in certain parts of the UK and US where my family lives will guarantee you discrimination in terms of job opportunities. you will still be told you are benefited by society because you have white skin. Which is frankly ridiculous. Thus when you tell a radicalised leftist like the commenter above that you are actually also not at the top of society. They get very frustrated because they used to think that they were the ultimate victim, nobody else has things tough and everyone should just bow to them for existing as the people who they are.
@@gregoryross9770 5000 dollars. lmao. right I forgot everyone in Europe is born with 5000 usd guaranteed. difference is Slavs don't say "give me free shit cuz im black" .
If I were in the top 1%, I would want to change the definition of racism to in saying only white men can be racist. That way people focus on racial differences and not class differences which helps me get richer.
When people say White Privilege what they should be saying Rich Privilege, which doesn't apply to poor people in general. Remember, O.J. got off due to his tax bracket, not his skin tone.
Dwain Summers Perhaps not entirely but you don't think it played a huge role? The defense used Mark Fuhrman to incite the jury and make accusations against the LAPD of being corrupt towards African Americans. The defense turned that whole courtroom into a circus and made it about race.
@@Djcjx91 what's amazing on what you said. You have a party who claims to be on the side of minorities and that you will try to make things better and more equal for minorities. But yet, and I'm wanting to saying your wrong, but even worse that your right, they painted the picture that the LAPD is corrupt and racist and the LAPD from the chief to the city council to the mayor, are all part of the party that claims to be on the side of the minority.
The reason terms like systemic racism and inequality work is because they're vague definitions with hints of truth amongst the avalanche of BS so you can push a narrative. I skip all that crap and try to treat everyone with respect regardless of gender, race, creed. Focus needs to be on equality under the law and not trying to make exceptions because of inequality because it's not possible since everyone has different circumstances they're born into.
I agree with Joe. If you have to change the definition of racism from “prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group” to “prejudice + power” in order to make it so that people can be exercise prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group without being called a racist, then maybe you’re the racist.
It’s just hypocrisy to expect a man to deal with all dangerous or physical encounters to protect and aid women while also condemning any general offers of assistance in day to day life as being demeaning or chauvinistic and treating women as less than. They have the privilege of openly expressing cowardice. A man displaying fear and unassertiveness will see his stock dramatically devalued in the eyes of a female. We’re all still animals with distinctive, differing roles to play.
rac·ism noun prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior. If you think there is an error in the definition of racism please tell
I think it is a good definition...with some problems. To explain, know that back in the early 80's, scientist found that aborigines in Australia had better eyesight than Australians of European decent. Apparently, thousands of years of unique exposure to what we now call Australia led nature to select really good eyesight for that population of human beings. So here are two really challenging scenarios that challenge the definition of racism: #1) Under the racism definition, is it being "racist" for an Aboriginal Australian: - to believe what scientific research indicates is true about a characteristic of his/her own race (which is a prejudice against other races regarding eyesight superiority)... - even though the Aboriginal Australian acknowledges that the distribution of the trait resulting in excellent average eyesight among Aboriginal Australians varies among them and thus anyone needing someone with good eyesight still needs to judge all that apply as individuals and not view a specific aboriginal as representative of his/her "population" of human beings (indicating no antagonism towards other races)... - while also being aware that it is an evolutionary ingrained behavior of human beings to stereotype..... thus making it highly probable that all Aboriginal Australians will be stereotyped as having good eyesight/others having inferior eyesight relative to Aboriginals (thus practically leading to negative results in some cases where individuals of non-aboriginal descent with outstanding eyesight are overlooked in favor of an Aboriginal Australians with worse eyesight). #2) Using the same scenario, is it racism when the person that discriminates in favor of the Aboriginal candidate is not an Aboriginal Australian himself/herself (thus is not believing his/her own race is superior, as required by the definition), but he/she does generally view Aboriginal Australian candidates more positively for this particular role....because factually, Aboriginal Australian candidates are, on average (generally), better for the role? Personal view: Racism is an awful thing and those being accused of it should be of the KKK/Black Israelite variety. Society has so broadened the definition of racism - even outside of the prejudice + power definition that we are talking about here - that I think it is missing important nuances. I don't think there is anything wrong about scenario #1. I also don't think #2 is racism either. Now, academics would probably call scenario 2 "systemic" or "structural" racism, but I don't think that definition works either. Racism has a core element that the belief in superiority is not based in any truth, but in this scenario, there is truth in the general reason for the discriminating decision. Instead, I think what I described in scenario 2 is the problem of stereotyping which is a subtly different than racism. Stereotyping is a general truth writ large....like "I hate snakes"...when only some snakes are dangerous. As to a further subtly variation of what I mean, consider that scenario 2 not being like racism....is similar to a scenario where a lone woman walking to the other side of the street when seeing a man walking towards her... is not sexism. Stereotyping can have negative/positive effects on people of different races depending on what side of the decision one is on. But I still don't think this is racism. I am being detailed, but I also feel the crime of racism is so bad that society should be very careful in how the charge is applied. Thoughts? www.abc.net.au/news/2015-04-08/prince-harry-may-struggle-to-keep-up-with-aboriginal-super-sight/6378066
Jeffrey Youngblood - Well, if some claim that there is an IQ difference between the races/populations, that seems to be considered racist. And that is superiority in only one trait as well.
It's Critical Race Theory, it's been around since the late 70s/early80s, and it's not new. It just has a more vocal fanbase due to the unholy plague of thought known as social media.
Jonathan Wotka And it’s just as flawed as CRITICAL THEORY itself! It’s Solely based on JUNK “science” and “observations” by Individuals at Universities that had to figure out ways to sound smart and get works published for tenure! The whole basis For Critical Theory is one big lie used to push far left Agendas! Change My Mind?😁 just threw that in for fun! But Bret Weinstein talks about this at great length and used to be a very progressive left thinker!
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Isn’t the definition of racism prejudice based on race? So saying that other races can only be prejudiced against whites and not racist is just being racist with a different word.
The definition is not based on prejudice. Racism is specifically based on the belief of race and the belief of supposed racial hierarchies. The classic definition of the word (using the Oxford) is based on ideologies of Wagner, Gobineau, Bismark and Hitler, during the rise of the Nazi's.
Jesse Olsen nope just racism we don’t get to change definitions based on pity party/mental gymnastics it is what it is facts don’t care about feelings.
@@blokcomNativeFaces rac·ism /ˈrāˌsizəm/ noun prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior. "a program to combat racism" synonyms: racial discrimination, racialism, racial prejudice/bigotry, xenophobia, chauvinism, bigotry, bias, intolerance; More the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races. "theories of racism" ..... please try again ma'am
I go to Oxford University. The first thing my college did before I met anyone there was give us a ‘race workshop’ that told us the buildings there and the university was a colonial institution. They then made everyone line up and told us to step forward if the statements applied to us. They said things that applied mainly to white students such as “my race is represented adaquately on the TV” and “I grew up in an area around people of my race”. They then also inferred that being white helps people get into Oxford. What a great way to start people getting to know each other.
Dude, being able to hear a conversations regarding this subject without people constantly talking over or yelling at one another is so refreshing. It's sad that it is refreshing rather than it feeling normal.
People of other color and races telling me i have white male privilege has made me resent them, where I never had before. Anti racism is causing racism.
Only to morons who have no actual life experience. An educated person would listen and independently research instead of whining about having negative attention on them.
@@nunziobusiness1509 Your reply shows your experience. I live it in realistic terms. Unfortunately my anecdotal evidence is backed up by statistical evidence.
I can say that after working for the Federal government for 12 years where 70% of my coworkers were black, don’t believe for a second that they don’t hate your guts because you’re white. In fact, they’ll talk loudly in front of you about their dislike for white people, avoid getting on an elevator with you, and instead of doing actual work they’ll laugh like hyenas while arguing over who has the best macaroni and cheese recipe. I now avoid black people at all costs. I don’t hate them, I just want nothing to do with them. It’s like we’re from a different planet with completely different brains and reasoning abilities. It’s frightening.
The problem with the redefining racism is that when race determines who is racist then the freedom of being an individual is eliminated and that is evil.
Power doesn't corrupt, it enables. When you have power over someone else, it gives you the ability to do whatever you please without repercussions. If your intentions were benign independently of power dynamics, nothing changes.
@Joe Plummer if this was happening in a vacuum, then yes, that is systemic racism, but historically black people have been oppressed and not given same opportunities for education and been discriminated against for positions for many decades. This equity is a way to undo the wrongs of the past cos one just has to look at any social statistics in terms of academic achievement, health, wealth etc to see blacks are definitely not the privileged in this society. Remember, only 50 years ago we had white supremacy laws in place with segregation, blacks having to move to back of the bus...that laws changed but attitudes didn't simply vanish overnight. We still have all white neighbourhoods, all black etc...still a long way to go for equity and equality.
@m r they have it wrong. There is no redefinition of racism being taught. This has been the definition of racism since the civil rights movement. Its not new and it never was anything to do with absolving anyone from being racist
Probably, but I think it's a good bit of old fashioned selfish "compensation culture" mixed in. More and more people think they should get paid in some way for simply existing now. Being able to suspend others you disagree with in fear is a form of social power, or social currency and if it can be wielded to make a buck or advance one's station in life, then it makes sense why someone would happily claim to be a victim of racism. The easiest way to become a victim is not to actually experience racism, but to greatly broaden the definition of the word.
@@apatheticallyconcerned6574 that's where we are fucked. I love watching CNN and listening to these disingenuous dumbfucks describe something like this last Caravan, or the next one... It just so happens that everyone's a super hard worker and is in an impossible situation from their home and they just want a chance to have a little something here... But that's a fucking lie. Like you said, everyone wants to be paid or recognized for nothing these days. Extending that point further, is a culture that's been created in this country where everyone feels like they are entitled to a smartphone, a nice car, a nice computer with high-speed internet in their house. And because of this we are fucked. There isn't anyone that's ever going to raise their hand and offer to give all of that up. So we just keep rating the planet's resources, while we subsidize laziness and worthlessness amongst the most poor and most uneducated people that live in our country, which encourages to pump out more and more children that they were never able to afford to begin with, so that they can grow up and mimic they're lazy, uneducated parent or parents. And then on top of that you have a political entity in this country that would love nothing more than to take all of the lazy and or poor people from every other country and put them here as well. The truth feels dangerous these days. Next time I'll be more sensitive and be sure to include a trigger warning 🤣
The scenario that Haidt relays about answering the door as a man and that being a privilege is ridiculous. What if Haidt was 5' 2" and 100 pounds and the guy on the other end of the door was 6' 4", 250 pounds of solid muscle. Would Haidt still be 'privileged'? Words like 'privilege', 'equal' and 'racism'. are constantly used incorrectly to describe situations.
I don't see how your example invalidates his. It wasn't about a human gorilla. It was an example that showed given the exact set of circumstances the woman wouldn't open the door but the man would. That is privilege by definition.
@@jeffreyyoungblood7438 It's also 200% anecdotal and not even at all related to privilege. Are you kidding me? Answering the door at night is male privilege? That's one of the stupidest things I've ever heard in my life.
I mean, statistically. Mr. Haidt has a greater risk of being assaulted by a stranger. Mrs. Haidt has a greater risk of being assaulted by Mr. Haidt. Men suffer random acts of violence at higher rates, so it definitely is a societal projection of 'danger' and 'privilege.'
Both genders have the privilege of CHOICE in that situation...the woman CAN OPEN THE DOOR TOO. She CHOOSES not to. The statistical data that makes it seem less dangerous for a male clearly overlooks the existence of weapons too. These SJW, moronic notions of so-called "privilege", and so-called "racism", and so-called "micro-aggressions", are all just a longer, and much weaker way of trying to convey their dislike of LIFE BEING UNFAIR. We used to get over that after our teens at the latest. Now it's just okay to focus on whining about it and try to force life to behave how you wish it would, instead of just overcoming your obstacles like everyone else used to have to do for all of human history. There's a reward in not whining, accepting things for how they are, and overcoming your personal hurdles, whatever they may be. Everyone has hurdles. There's nobody with privileges. We are all humans. That means having talents and flaws. Your social circumstances don't take away having disadvantages and hurdles with certain things, just like EVERYONE ELSE. Get over this shit. It's such a waste of time. Deal with life. Grow up, for fuck sake. That's what I say
@E. Seraphim *"Cops have been getting away with murder and brutality since the beginning of this country"* Yeah, towards every "race" of peoples. White people are/have been abused by cops too, so what's your point?
@E. Seraphim there is no inherent racial bias in the judicial system. People are convicted or acquitted by a jury of their peers based on the evidence presented and the cases made by both the prosecution and defense. There IS, however, a two-tiered system of justice in this country. It's just not based on race. In the U.S. it's the rich and powerful who get away with everything and the poor who suffer injustice. There's a lot of rich white folks and a lot of poor black folks, so its easy to mistake socioeconomic privilege for racial privilege, but it has nothing to do with race.
@E. Seraphim harsher drug laws were passed concerning "black people drugs" like crack, but it's important to remember that that legislation was introduced by the black caucus who felt that stricter sentences would keep drugs out of black neighborhoods.
@E. Seraphim you can search and search and I promise you that you will never find an inherent or explicit racial bias in our criminal justice system. Many factors impact sentencing including but not limited to prior criminal history, contrition and remorse, cooperation with law enforcement and or court officials etc. It's easy to point to disparities in statistical data and cry foul. But there are always reasonable and valid explanations for those discrepancies. I mean 90% of incarcerated individuals are men and almost nobody seems to think that the criminal justice system hates men do they?
Rodney King was an obstinate little punk who constantly caused run-ins with police. Having to stop the same person over and over again for violations when they won't listen, and remain stubborn in their pursuit of being contradictory to the law. This is a common mindset in black culture; they *don't* listen to police, obstruction of the law, they lie to police (as not to "snitch"). Black culture nurtures "victims" and supports the notion of being non-American. The black movements of today are all inspired by the disgusting Black Panther party, an Islamic organization whose aim is to create a cabal of enemies to the American people. Even when some punk like Michael Brown commits strong-arm robbery and gets shot by police for being uncooperative, the media spins it calling him a "child" (when he was in his 30's) just to tear at the heartstrings of liberal zombies who lack the mental fortitude to understand that the police didn't in fact "murder a black child". Go figure the residents of Ferguson could only respond to this "tragedy" by burning half their town to ashes. I have a really hard time feeling sorry for people who lack the personal agency to not riot in a time of duress, but inner city blacks will absolutely jump at the opportunity to commit atrocities when they know that law enforcement is scarce. They'll rob, cheat and steal if nobody is watching, and they never feel bad about it because they think they're owed reparations, which is apparently dealt out in an inexhaustible amount of theft and hate crimes
I mean, I guess that being male does mean you're less likely to feel afraid of being victimized. But, the truth is, that's merely a psychological benefit. Men are far more likely to be victims of violent crime, and it's likely because we don't take the same steps to protect ourselves that women do. We're not afraid to answer the door at 2 am when somebody is banging on it. We're not afraid to walk down a dark alley alone at night. Maybe men SHOULD be more afraid than we are, but our psychology won't let us.
It's the benefit of being disposable. Like how the Princess but always have an escort, the mother must always know where the daughter is going, but the Prince slips away in commoners dress all the time, & the father never cares to ask where the son has gone, only what he has accomplished or returned with. Privileges have their drawbacks. A lack of privilege can be a freedom.
You’re wrong. Only men can open doors. Doors were specifically engineered to only be opened by men, because all the engineers were men. Ever seem a woman open a door? Me neither. My poor anecdotal evidence wins, #maleprivilege exists because I say it does
It's 'strong male', and yes, it is a privilege. My wife would not ever consider doing that. I am strong. I will open the door ready to smash a face in if it came to it, but that's just me.
@@MrT9822 but don't you need self confidence and a strong foundation of self worth to do that? You know how many people have low self-esteem bro? A lot!
@@Dave_of_Mordor Does mean that person isn't helpless to change that. I have horrible self esteem. I've been the victim of racism before. But I didnt allow that moment to define who I am. People need to grow thicker skin. And realize that no one can hurt your feelings, unless you allow them too. Sticks and stones will break my bones but words will never hurt me. These are things we teach children. Should we not try to live by these guidelines as adults?
What about how my ex girlfriend got pulled over in the same town that I live in 6 times in 6 months and never got a single ticket I got pulled over one time the bastard gave me 3!
Using different words for things doesn’t magically change their practical impact. People need to understand this. Call it privilege, advantage or whatever but men are given more opportunity than women
No men are not given more opportunity than women. It would be a privilege if they were but they are not. If someone comes from poverty and earns $5 million they are not more privileged than someone who who inherited $4 million.
Men are also more likely to be attacked as well. Nobody is going to hit a pretty girl. But if your a guy with success in any department other men want to physically cause you harm. Where as women just use slander to cut down other women
The choice of whether or not to open the door isn’t defined by sex at all but about choice. I know women who wouldn’t think twice about opening the door and could effectively defend themselves and I know men who wouldn’t open the door out of fear for their safety. That was a load of crap.
Thanks for highlighting this Joe. This topic has split many of my friends. You're correct. But being correct isn't enough when the other side bases their facts in feelings and not reality.
My teacher 2 years ago in my junior high school English class preached the fact that only white people could be racist in America. This man has continued and is continuing to say this in his classes. He’s also a basketball teacher, what a great man for these impressionable young minds to get brainwashed by.
If you looking to find it, then I guess so. Maybe the trick is to not look for it? Instead . . . . I dunno, maybe try and treat everyone with respect, and focus on self-improvement instead of seeking to degrade and/or disempower others?
Mikee well that would be great in an ideal world. But we don’t live in one. Your solution would be great if it was applicable to modern society but it simply isn’t. Don’t try to view the solution to racism through logic because it is an illogical issue in the first place
@@omo2786 Racism is logical to the people who hold racist attitudes because of perceived injustice, so appealing to their innate logic and empathy is the best way to get them to re-evaluate their beliefs. Show that you recognize their needs and struggles so they will see you are acting in good faith. The Golden Rule is effective because it helps us perceive the external needs of others as valuable in relation to our own. It's not perfect, and it won't help with the people who are too comfortable and insulated in their beliefs. But it still makes sense to use logic and empathy when you challenge them because it will expose their absurdity to those who are willing to re-evaluate themselves.
@nathan smith let me complete yr sentence properly..."because you have no power to oppress"...the slave being whipped or the jew being cooked are being racist when they say that...
Racism is a social construct. Race is real. There's no universal definition on racism. There's no proof of racism. You can't measure it. You can't put it in numbers. To some racism is a glass of milk, to others it's the hate of all people who don't look like you, to some it's racism if you want to marry someone your own race. Everyone has their definition on racism. We should stop talking about it like it's settled science.
Joe doesn’t get his point across very clearly. But I think what he’s after is that talking about privilege when referring to these issues is just getting it backwards. If someone is not afraid of people making false preconceptions about them based on their race, gender, sexual preference, etc. that is not privilege, that is how it _should_ be - for everyone. The focus should be on fighting racism not this so called ‘privilege’. Of course, I realize that the real aim of people pushing this privilege theme is to shame people so they will ‘move out of the way’ so they can get their own privileged position
I don't think so. He explained that he felt safe opening the door because they were in a very nice hotel. If they were in a cheap motel on the side of the road in the middle of nowhere there's no chance he opens that door.
@@sabbracadabra8367 because he's opening the door based on the assumption that there isn't a psycho with a gun/knife on the other side of that door all based on "well, it's a good neighborhood"
I do feel privileged. Not because im white but because compared to the entire world i am. People in other countries really got it fucked up. Doesnt make me feel guilty. Makes me feel blessed.
Racism is not dead, but it is on life support - kept alive by politicians, race hustlers and people who get a sense of superiority by denouncing others as "racists." - Thomas Sowell
Female "privilege" exists along with that "male privilege". If a man hits a woman in public, 99% of people who see it happen will side with the woman regardless of the reason. Other men will defend her. It's natural instinct. As it should be. Also, this "male privilege" comes with responsibility. If a man opens his front door at night, he knows he's responsible for defending whoever is in his house. Why can't we just accept that each sex has different privileges and responsibilities?
I love how these films are edited. The video starts in the middle of a conversation and sometimes you wonder what was the previous discussion about "..yea a flamethrower took care of that, and then we had to deal with all the goats in the living room". You're like WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE?!
I live in a one bedroom apartment, with a roommate i might add. Just finished doing my laundry AT THE LAUNDRY MAT, I work 6 days a week just to survive and pay the bills for the meager lifestyle that i live. I am a 30 year old white male.
I had a teacher in college that said that black people can't be racist towards white people because the "have nots" cannot be racist towards the "haves" which to me seemed not only presumptuous, but a rather racist point of view in its own way.
As a white kid in New Orleans who took public transportation through high school, I definitely went into social situations where I feared being attacked for my race. Happened all the time. I was definitely not in a position of power and was harassed, robbed and spit on because I was in a minority. I did not feel privileged for being white.
F Fu makes sense. Plus I always find it interesting how privileged white men are always the ones who are trusted to decide what is and isn’t racism. Society perceives black people to want to use racism as an excuse. For that reason people who have never experienced or been disadvantaged by it are “qualified” to talk about it
@@kieranc6841 Jews are a ethnoreligious group. It is a religion and also a distinct ethnic group. Nazis didn't just discriminate against Jews based on their religion. There was most definately a racial aspect to their hatred towards the Jews which you can clearly see in the propaganda of the time. If you don't know this go read some books. It isn't difficult to educate yourself on this, there is a lot of literature on it.
My brother signing up to play an early access game was rejected because he is a white male and "cis". But they accepted his friend because she is trans. The company literally told him that was their reason. My brother is their biggest fan and buys all their products but was turned down.
There really doesn’t need to be a discussion, it is not complicated. If you are judged solely on the basis of the color of your skin, that is racism, plain and simple anyone who says “well acktually” is either racist or apologetic to racists.
The most ignorant thing you can say to a White American is "You have no culture" assuming that their family has been living in the USA for generations and/or haven't kept their European culture.
This conversation reminds me of a lesson taught in a high school English class. (Minnesota school, quite liberal) Our Asian teacher made it very clear that white people cannot be a victim to racism, and I accepted this as fact. An ideal that could prove very dangerous for white folks that are the minority in certain areas of the United States.
The guest doesnt seem to know what he is talking about. His example of opening the hotel door where as his wife wouldnt is a prime example. It is NOT a privilege to have an obligation to put yourself in harm's way. This is not about men being stronger and being more capable to protect ourselves. There are these things called knives and guns so it's not that he did not feel less endangered than his wife in this situation, but he was in fact doing what was expected of him as a man. That is a female privilege if nothing else. Another prime example is his idea of the difference of how conversations could go if you are white as opposed to when you are black. This is nonsensical. ANY trait/occupation/hobby/political view/etc can be used to make this distinction depending on the situation. You can replace black/white in this scenario with gamer/jock/meathead/princess/gold digger/banker/teacher/redhead/disabled/etc. IF the people around you view this perceived quality of yours to have a negative connotation they can "spoil" the conversation. Limiting it to something based on race only works if you are biased towards race issues. As the NPCs are.
Razomir no you can’t just because you did that it makes no sense to do that his not wrong you can disagree but you can’t say his wrong just because you think his wrong
@@Ignited_Trap On the contrary. You cannot say I "just" disagree with him when I have explained at length why I disagree and where. If you think my arguments are incorrect feel free to let me know where and why. But up until this point you have only made a statement of your opinion whereas I have made an argument, so I say again - I absolutely can say he is wrong as explained above.
@@Ignited_Trap You should try some punctuation. Otherwise your comments sound a bit like word salad. That being said, you either dont know how arguments work or are being purposefully obtuse. Anyone can say someone else is wrong if they provide a good enough argument. This is not a matter of personal preference and thus something subjective. On the contrary, the topic is quite factual and objective. If you say the world is flat I can tell you that you are objectively wrong. And it is not just because I personally disagree but because there are facts to support it. Same situation here. and by the way you are contradicting yourself. If I cannot say he is wrong "just" because I disagree with him, then you cannot say I am wrong just because you disagree with me. Get it? Bit of a double standard.
I'm mixed, visually Mexican, but I was raised by my white mother, so my perspective on this is that I have been more often ostracized and outcasted because of my "white" behaviors than I ever have been for being brown.
"But if you're black, someone is going to make an assumption." I can't tell you how many times I've been yelled at by black AND white people for listening to rap music when I pull into a gas station...
I can confirm this was being taught in high school, my senior year I was fully remote from school because of covid-19, I went to Brockton high school in MA, my English teacher showed an hour long UA-cam video of different people talking about and explaining how a black person cannot be racist, and my school being pro dominantly black I was one of the only white kids in the class and even through the screen from at home I felt I couldn’t say anything about it, and thankfully a friend of mine came on the class zoom call and said “I’m black and I’m not racist but If I were to say and act amongst the belief that all white people were racists or any adjective, that in turn would make me racist because I’m generalizing all of a race of people to be the same or similar, He said even good adjectives that people use and call stereo types like all Asians are good at math, even tho most people would say being good at math is a good thing, saying u believe someone that u don’t know is good at math jus because of their race well that is still a realistically racist statement” and jus about the whole class all agreed and someone else said anybody could be racist or any type of anything regardless of how they actually look or what they are. And when I tell u, this teacher actually sat there and tried to get into arguing with a class of 20+ none white kids about them all being invulnerable to being racist regardless of what they said and she got shut down so much I think she ended up scrapping all the assignments revolving around that subject, was som strange stuff
Imagine being a dude and some one is banging on the door yelling and you just hide away in your room. You are expected to go tell the guy to leave and risk getting into a dangerous encounter. It’s an expectation/duty not a privilege.
There is one golden rule that could end all this hatred and confusion... TREAT OTHER PEOPLE HOW YOU WISH TO BE TREATED YOURSELF. We can but but try. All of us. X
Elliot Rodger having below par schools and living in areas that lack the facilities that your peers have is being under privileged. Yet people don’t want to take note of that factor. Race represents social class so when affirmative action helps black people that’s with the accurate assumption that the majority of black people have less privileges education wise than Asians. It evens out the playing field. I don’t necessarily agree with it but if we want to solve discrimination in education let’s start at the root of the problem and that’s giving everyone equal opportunity from day 1 not revoking a system that helps diversify higher education.
Affirmative action isn't privilege. It's an ineffective way of fighting privilege. Look at how underfunded schools are in black areas. Look at the advantages that the white/suburban students have from day 1. I don't like affirmative action because I don't think it's effective to try to even the playing field AFTER the black students have already gone through the inner city school systems. But when you say affirmative action is priviledge that's wrong because you're completely ignoring the reality of our world that leads to affirmative action being there in the first place.
@@omo2786 .... What exactly makes a school below par? Money? Public schools are predominantly made up of and paid for by the people of that same community. Moreover, most importantly, there are "white communities" across the country that receive far less funding per student that those in the "less privileged" black inner-city communities, and they don't have the same crazy drop-out rates that had to be bent by lower academic standards so that's not a good enough explanation. Quality of education has everything to do with the environment in which children are learning... I'm assuming you agree.... and what is that environment often like? Do know that many schools are now having to hire teachers from outside the US to work in those schools? Why? Because often those jobs are fkt up. Teachers have always had to get by with not enough unfortunately, not now they, and kids who actually want to learn, have to deal with a large contingency shyty people who have free reign to ruin it for everyone else. So what really is the privilege? That white schools have less of those people to contend with? Is that your point? More money would solve this problem? There have always been poor people... always... but their kids weren't taking crazy fist fighting the fkin teachers man. There is a problem, but it's a paradox of black people contributing heavily to their own demise. Calling white people "privileged" as if they are "given" freely something that others can't possibly earn themselves isn't honest, and most importantly it's not helpful because it doesn't describe the actual problems in any way. If one kid earns a spot in a university on merit, and doesn't get it because another is given it for the sake of some obscure concept of "diversity".... which means not white or Asian.... that's a privilege.
Affirmative Action isn't just a privilege, it is the definition of racism. Offering someone a job or scholarship solely based on their skin color is fucking racist.
Vikinghammer87 well so is doing the opposite. It’s racist to diversify third level right? But I’m sure you weren’t saying it was racist when only white and Asian kids could get into college
I like this guy and I think he means well, but him saying that he doesn't have to worry when he goes to social counters that somebody will make an assumption about his skin color just proves he doesn't hang out with people of different skin colors. My social group growing up was predominantly Black or Mexican and going to parties and experiencing racism towards me or an assumption towards me was a thing and it does make you self-conscious about how you will be perceived
PlagueInfected - 8492nd Fighter Wing no where that I'm sure of to be honest but that's the correct term to be using for the different fantasy "races" they're all different species of sentient animals from one another.
I had to do a privilege exercise in my Freshman English class at Virginia Tech. Literally just had everyone step forward if they were white, parents had stable jobs, etc
5:08 that's not male privilege, it's naivety. If someone knocks on my door late at night with my wife and kids I don't care how nice the hotel is I am not opening that door and making sure I have my gun ready to go. This is also the same guy that lets his daughter walk home alone in NY from the bakery. Geez.
My English teacher tried to do the same, but the entire class gave the aura of screw off. She took the hint and continued to teach. (She was pregnant at the time so we cut her son slack, and she was actually a really good English teacher).
Yeah, it’s pretty nasty. Though a lot of it has to do with the SM7B mics they’re using. Great mics, but they have a unique ability to exaggerate mouth noise - especially with bad mic technique.
My main issue is that people don't realize that privilege isn't inherently a bad thing. By virtue of living in America, even minorities are very privileged most of the time, due to the wealth u likely get to enjoy. Yet, other people in the world also have much privilege to live in beautiful locations such as people living in Thailand or the Maldives. Like...should people *necessarily* feel guilty for having some privilege in life? I don't think so.
If I were in the top 1%, I would want to change the definition of racism to in saying only white men can be racist. That way people focus on racial differences and not class differences which helps me get richer.
2:00 - 2:20 definitely struck a chord with me. I have always felt this way ever since I saw/listened to George Carlin's rant on the context of hate speech. The fact that people can lambast anyone for making a soundwave with their vocal chords regardless of what the context is, is completely insane. Not to long ago the company I work at (in SoCa btw, which is important to note because Cali is losing its minds over all this bullshit) had a mandatory sensitivity training season where his lady had a PowerPoint slide that read "it's not about the intent, it's about the impact." And I thought to myself, "there really is no hope for the human race, is there..." smfh
this is taught in south portland high school along with the wage gap, social genders, and talking about marx as if he was a great philosopher that did well to the world. maine used to be a red state.....
Marx was a coward who couldn’t be relevant in the world in any meaningful way. So he created a philosophy of hatred aimed at real contributors to society by appealing to other non contributing cowards by telling them they were oppressed because someone else had more power and was more successful than they were. So essentially, Cultural Marxism is a philosophy for the weak who would rather blame other more successful people for their personal failures rather than getting off of their asses and accomplishing something on their own.
That's pretty fucked up. I'm all for teaching to treat everyone kindly and with respect, but teaching that controversial idea as morally right is just wrong.
Weirdly, this video pops up in my recommended 2 days after Reddit creates a special provision in their "hate speech" policy, allowing "hate speech" against "groups of people who are in the majority"
I was in a restaurant in Chicago and I overheard a little white girl say to her mom "I wish I was something special and not white". The mother was playing on on her phone not really giving her daughter any attention and said "that's good".
If you define racism as treating people different according to their ethnicity or race, you will never “solve” racism. It’s human nature. Human beings feel comfortable and identify with people who look them, speak like them and share a common culture with. And therefore treat them differently. If your tribe is inhabiting an area 100, 000 years ago, and some strangers mass along your village.....that was a real threat to your existence. It has been engraved into our DNA over the millennia. And it’s not restricted to white people. Try living in Chinatown or little Vietnam as a non Asian, you will be treated differently. Try living in Parts of east Los Angeles as a non Hispanic, you will be treated differently, Glendale, Watts, etc. The best option going forward in a multi ethnic country like the US, is to find common values or shared culture, and rally behind that, and expand that to set a base. If not, we will be in a perpetual state of mistrust and hostility towards one another.
No but you don't understand the fucking point of the left is to take away all shared values. It's that there is no such thing as being able to communicate 1v1 with someone because "You're a fucking white male." It's to take away any sense of responsibility or morals. It's post modernism.
It's worse joe. it's not the victims of racism that are now using racism by wedponising definitions it's: The defenders of the victims of racism, who have never experienced racism themselves changing the definitions and committing to racism, and predominantly against their own people as a form of internalised guilt mechanics that they themselves created over things that they never committed. It's insane and we should be getting these people some mental health support.
Red-Lining is a perfect example of racism. Me saying I don’t like a certain ethnicity or religion is prejudice. An incorrect preconceived ideology of someone or something. More often times taught. Racism is more than hate or a strong dislike. Affecting groups of people of a certain ethnicity or religion. Or controlling there neighborhoods based off your prejudice is what’s racist. A bum calling me the n word isn’t racist it’s prejudice. He speaking from a position of ignorance not power. That’s a huge distinction we gotta acknowledge.
@@kari1303 Race, ethnicity and culture offer different privileges, or advantages, or things of value. Specific to race: Blacks tend to have more muscle mass that can help them excell at certain sports like sprinting or football. This varies with ethnicity (ex. Ethiopians are generally not built this way, but tend to excell in long distance running). Culturally, blacks often grow up with elements of African culture like dance, certain kinds of music and traditions that people of other races may not be exposed to (this is privilege). Some blacks grow up with certain values in their family depending on where they are from. Nigerian American immigrant families for example, tend to value personal responsibility and formal education more than other groups. In terms of overlap between poor communities and blacks: blacks who grow up in households with many siblings are given opportunities to develop social skills and intimacy in ways that middle class children in smaller households are not.
Julian Fischer Bro. What the fuck. Ok I’m a 20 year old black man and that’s honestly one of the weirdest comments I’ve ever read. Go outside and meet people more, that’s our natural genetics those are not privileges. We do not benefit as a whole off of those things, shit if anything we just get stereotyped like you did with your comment. I’m 6’3 and I suck at basketball lol.
Julian Fischer As a white male in the “united states” you have an advantage Politically, economically, even socially I’d have to say you guys are privileged, we had to learn YOUR language that was spread everywhere with colonialism and the white media’s narrative. We created rock and all the other music you love but we only have Rap (barely). Idk man I don’t really care about this kind of shit but I’m just saying it’s disrespectful to just dismiss the truth. Intellectual dishonesty is rampant in this comment section
Julian Fischer I said “As a white male we had to learn your language” I didn’t specifically say we had to learn your language because you can be anyone behind your internet avatar that gives you courage to have conversations with people that you should in real life.
When he said he went to open the door to confront a drunk stranger, I literally thought: NO DON’T DO IT YOU IDIOT! It’s such a deeply ingrained response.
Anyone who thinks you can’t be racist towards privileged people or sexist towards men think of this. Your whole movement is based on EQUALITY. Putting someone down because of their social or racial situation which they ALSO have no control over is not equality.
Racism is racism. Racism doesn't discriminate, ironically.
@@andrewh619 What?
Incorrect. Racism isnt racist against Inuits, or Eskimos as they are more common only called.
They wanna have 47 words for snow?? Fine. We take away your definition of Racism. Douchebags with your tasty pies laughin at us when our Air Conditioning breaks. Smug bastards
@G ........pretty shocking that you yourself just demonstrated racism against Rogan......while claiming he couldnt experience racism. That paradox is shocking and really.shows a bad idealogy racists are pushing that your following.
So because Joe is white and balding so he shaves his head........... you try to call him a skinhead neo nazi. Cool dude. Nothing racist about that at all lol.
I gottta ask. Do they just take the standard KKK hoods and dye them black for your groups meetings or do they come that way? Cuz you sound ALOT like them.
@G that sounds made up
@G Thats not racism you are referring to. Thats called oppression. Here is the webster dictionary's listing for oppression. And if you lolup the racism one on webster. It doesnt include anything at all about power.
Stop pushing ignorance and lack of knowledge so you can justify beng a hateful person and get away with being a racist.
Definition ofoppression
1a: unjust or cruel exercise of authority or powerthe continuing oppression of the … underclasses- H. A. Daniels
"The goal isn't truth, it's victory over racism."
Sounds like a line out of 1984.
Jeffrey Youngblood if u read it twice u would be able to fell the atmosphere and mindset of the serie, and how that would be a posible line inside the series
Racism is an opinion generally held by those in power the goal is to end colonialism, in both the mind and the systematic practices. If Cush(Africa) globally was self sufficient we would not care what you think!
@@jeffreyyoungblood7438 How did you not get that he means that it could come from the world of that book not that it's an actual line? You might have read the book but maybe the atmosphere of that world went over your head?
@@jeffreyyoungblood7438 The book may not mention any line relating to racism but it contains in it a theme which could be possibly applied here. It is a lie that racism is prevalent as it was 50 years ago, not that it does not exist, and the lie that all white people have a privilege from which black people are deprived of, not that racism does not exist, is dangerous. Any remnants of racism must end but the methods that are adopted are simply stupid and ORWELLIAN or semi-orwellian..
Jeffrey Youngblood Wouldn’t you agree that putting some other goal above truth will always yield dishonest results? I think that might be the connection he is drawing. Serving the party above all else etc. Jonathan Haidt actually says something similar about academia. If the telos of a university is not knowledge/pursuit of truth but activism or ‘social justice’, they have assumed what is true and their pursuit of truth will suffer as a result. I think it’s a pretty good explanation of just how untethered from the observable world the far left has become.
Just because you’re being offended, doesn’t mean you’re right.
Or getting offended is not a crime bruh its not holdable law ıf a man steals your tool its a crime
Yeaaah...but you stole that from Chappelle...
Don't trying to be smart... You can't...
No shit
I have a sticker that says that right on the front of my guitar
Just because you're not offended does not make you right either?
I don't think you fix racism with more racism. You can't fix bigotry with different bigotry.
By looking at the comment section, people really think they can. It's like it's raining insecure white guys here 😂😂
@@oscarcervantes6403 Wow, you're the problem.
Oscar Cervantes lol you’re part of the problem buddy.
Can you fix violent crime by driving around in black and white cars with guns?
316ht No, I don’t think so.
" I'm sorry the world isnt one big liberal arts college campus"
-Southpark, Reality
I'm not sorry, that would be terrible, nothing would get done
what does that mean??? sorry for the dumb question just having trouble understanding thanks
@@luciano2284 the farmer is saying that the world is more complicated than college. we can't solve problems by canceling people. we need to listen to them and talk about problems in a civilize manner.
@@silasdietrich7464 your opinion is wrong. i know it's only an opinion, but it's wrong. i hope you know that you're wrong.
@@luciano2284 in the episode one of the main characters is hosting a benefit for shameless America, an organization who's trying to raise money to get iPads to impoverished people so they can filter out any negative online comments for Americans who want to live in safe places. So the personification of reality shows up and starts roasting the crowd over their sensitivity and he uses the quoted line to say the world doesn't care about your feelings or whatever you do to deny reality. The towns people then hang reality in the middle of town.
The word "privilege" is thrown around quite a lot these days.
It really is, social privilege (we have to be specific) is circumstantial. Economic circumstances.
Cultural circumstances.
Psychological circumstances.
There are so many variables, dynamics, and fluctuations, to being in a society, and they've always existed.
I actually like the idea of "men's rights activists", ANTIFA, "it's okay to be white", as annoying and brash as those people can sometimes be. They help to highlight the feminine supremacists, the existence of a violent leftists, and anti-European sentiment we either notice, or pretend not to.
*Nothing helps you (or a society) improve more than a mirror!*
Social media has been *just that...*
It's just a way to dismiss anything a white person says. It's a conversation stopper. A trump card. No need to articulate your argument just dismiss the other person speaking.
Yeah just like racist and nazi, these are lazy labels to use against people that disagree with leftist group think.
When does the left understand the overused words that they use.
Rabbi Abraham Finkelstein:Interview with ua-cam.com/video/nCmS6dKPEd0/v-deo.html
When i was 19 and adult man was explaining this to me, that racism is race+position of power and i was like "im 19 still in school and work as a store clerk, what position of power do i have?"
The Asian store clerk killed a young woman accused of stealing. that's power
@@TheSycaman no that's not. That's just regular murder.
@@awsomater1991 they didn't go to jail
@@TheSycaman then there's a lot more to your story. Cause no one can kill a young woman in america and get away with it.
@@briantroy7376 A Muslim can (and has) because it's their "culture." Father killed his daughter, something about how she disgraced the family. "Culture" was the legal defense. I think it was in California (sorry, no citation, I forget where I learned that).
How do you stop racism?
Morgan Freeman: Stop talking about it.
@Blackskinis Amazing You make no sense.
Ok stop talking about it
Yeah...how'd that workout?
Well there IS an important point to be made about that. For the folks [they] are trying to "sell" the race problem to, they either don't have an issue to begin with (which is the majority of us), or they're never going to change anyway. These new name-callers aren't CHANGING anyone. All they're doing is policing language. That has never turned out well for anyone except the FCC, the KGB, and the Catholic Church.
~JSV
I disagree w that. For as long as it is still around it should be talked about
I am 49 years old. I was in the Navy back in the early '90's, stationed in WA about an hour from Seattle. Me and some of my buddies were out one night in Tacoma, WA. I remember we were walking towards this building and were gonna walk behind it to get wherever we were going faster. As we approached the corner to turn behind the building, a black guy came from right where we were headed and he looked at us and said, "you better not go back there, your color might get you knocked out." We smiled, thanked him, and took the long way instead of the wrong way. His selfless act saved us from that form of racism. He didn't need to do that, but he did, and I've never forgotten it, nearly 30 years later.
When i was in A school at great lakes our Friday liberty brief from our black chief made it clear...if you find yourself in a part of Chicago where you're the only person of that color you better turn around. This was 08
If you don't have the self awareness to realize where you should and shouldn't go then i feel sorry for you.
@@daveortwine2641 it was 30 years ago, I was a kid in an unfamiliar area. The point of the story was the kindness of the man who advised us to go around.
@Jack funniest part of this is, one of the guys with me was named . . . Jack 😆
I took the wrong way a few times back in the day, and got jumped at least once. Other times I mostly got harassed about having long hair, and apparently looking like "Bon Jovi" to my antagonists. And, of course I've been called "cracker" a few times. However, years later I lived in a low-income, mostly black neighborhood, and never had a problem with any of my neighbors. I suppose the moral of the story is that people of all colors have the potential to act unkindly to others based on race, and its up to the individual to resist actualizing that potential.
I love hearing, as a immigrant working class child of abusive parents that I am privileged because I have pale skin.
I know better what I hear from people, I know you think you are all knowing, but no. Getting told by a middle class white girl with a LV purse that YOU have had it easy in life because of your skin when you are barely surviving is not "about society". I am very sorry your feeling are hurt by the fact someone does not match your imagination about the world been quite literally black and white. But that is reality.
@@darkpassenger65 I dont see how commenting on somebody's personal comment on a topic is soposed to add to your personal thought, especially when it does pertain to subject matter of precognitive ideas of cruelty purely based on skin when the person just lays out there life story. Heads up I'm a conservative but you really just seemed to be mean about that
@@loganyates3923 its alright dude, very unintelligent people usually get very angry and start to hurl abuse at people when somebody does not agree with them. I very often get discriminated against because I am Polish as many other of my countrymen, but to the modern left, this is impossible. Because Polish people have white skin they must be some master race exploiting the poor brown people at the bottom. Despite the fact that having a polish surname especially in certain parts of the UK and US where my family lives will guarantee you discrimination in terms of job opportunities. you will still be told you are benefited by society because you have white skin. Which is frankly ridiculous. Thus when you tell a radicalised leftist like the commenter above that you are actually also not at the top of society. They get very frustrated because they used to think that they were the ultimate victim, nobody else has things tough and everyone should just bow to them for existing as the people who they are.
@@kokojambo4944 Spare me the my grandfather came here with the nickel and a dream🙄.... He had a nickel in his pocket and $5000 of whiteness
@@gregoryross9770 5000 dollars. lmao. right I forgot everyone in Europe is born with 5000 usd guaranteed. difference is Slavs don't say "give me free shit cuz im black" .
This has aged well
Yes it has
Sadly
Definitely getting truer by the day.
@@longbeach7623 bump for visibility lol
If I were in the top 1%, I would want to change the definition of racism to in saying only white men can be racist. That way people focus on racial differences and not class differences which helps me get richer.
Everyone has privileges....men can’t go to the bar with no money and expect to be able to drink all night. 🤷♂️
Not true 🤷
Gay men can.
John Howerton 😂
"Let me buy you a drink ", T-pain
Sebastian Stewart that’s cap, that shit happens
When people say White Privilege what they should be saying Rich Privilege, which doesn't apply to poor people in general. Remember, O.J. got off due to his tax bracket, not his skin tone.
@Stay Up So, you're saying O.J. got off because of the color of his skin?
Dwain Summers Perhaps not entirely but you don't think it played a huge role? The defense used Mark Fuhrman to incite the jury and make accusations against the LAPD of being corrupt towards African Americans. The defense turned that whole courtroom into a circus and made it about race.
AND his skin color. You didnt see one of the jurors as they exited give the black power salute?
@@Djcjx91 what's amazing on what you said. You have a party who claims to be on the side of minorities and that you will try to make things better and more equal for minorities. But yet, and I'm wanting to saying your wrong, but even worse that your right, they painted the picture that the LAPD is corrupt and racist and the LAPD from the chief to the city council to the mayor, are all part of the party that claims to be on the side of the minority.
The reason terms like systemic racism and inequality work is because they're vague definitions with hints of truth amongst the avalanche of BS so you can push a narrative.
I skip all that crap and try to treat everyone with respect regardless of gender, race, creed.
Focus needs to be on equality under the law and not trying to make exceptions because of inequality because it's not possible since everyone has different circumstances they're born into.
I agree with Joe. If you have to change the definition of racism from “prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group” to “prejudice + power” in order to make it so that people can be exercise prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group without being called a racist, then maybe you’re the racist.
Perfect description!
Opening the door to a hostile drunk isn’t “male privilege”, it’s a burden we bear.
Two things can be true at the same time
It’s just hypocrisy to expect a man to deal with all dangerous or physical encounters to protect and aid women while also condemning any general offers of assistance in day to day life as being demeaning or chauvinistic and treating women as less than. They have the privilege of openly expressing cowardice. A man displaying fear and unassertiveness will see his stock dramatically devalued in the eyes of a female. We’re all still animals with distinctive, differing roles to play.
Well said
Just cause this 6ft guy opened the door doesnt mean my 5ft7 @ss would do the same😂
rac·ism
noun
prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.
If you think there is an error in the definition of racism please tell
I think it is a good definition...with some problems. To explain, know that back in the early 80's, scientist found that aborigines in Australia had better eyesight than Australians of European decent. Apparently, thousands of years of unique exposure to what we now call Australia led nature to select really good eyesight for that population of human beings.
So here are two really challenging scenarios that challenge the definition of racism:
#1) Under the racism definition, is it being "racist" for an Aboriginal Australian:
- to believe what scientific research indicates is true about a characteristic of his/her own race (which is a prejudice against other races regarding eyesight superiority)...
- even though the Aboriginal Australian acknowledges that the distribution of the trait resulting in excellent average eyesight among Aboriginal Australians varies among them and thus anyone needing someone with good eyesight still needs to judge all that apply as individuals and not view a specific aboriginal as representative of his/her "population" of human beings (indicating no antagonism towards other races)...
- while also being aware that it is an evolutionary ingrained behavior of human beings to stereotype..... thus making it highly probable that all Aboriginal Australians will be stereotyped as having good eyesight/others having inferior eyesight relative to Aboriginals (thus practically leading to negative results in some cases where individuals of non-aboriginal descent with outstanding eyesight are overlooked in favor of an Aboriginal Australians with worse eyesight).
#2) Using the same scenario, is it racism when the person that discriminates in favor of the Aboriginal candidate is not an Aboriginal Australian himself/herself (thus is not believing his/her own race is superior, as required by the definition), but he/she does generally view Aboriginal Australian candidates more positively for this particular role....because factually, Aboriginal Australian candidates are, on average (generally), better for the role?
Personal view: Racism is an awful thing and those being accused of it should be of the KKK/Black Israelite variety. Society has so broadened the definition of racism - even outside of the prejudice + power definition that we are talking about here - that I think it is missing important nuances. I don't think there is anything wrong about scenario #1. I also don't think #2 is racism either. Now, academics would probably call scenario 2 "systemic" or "structural" racism, but I don't think that definition works either. Racism has a core element that the belief in superiority is not based in any truth, but in this scenario, there is truth in the general reason for the discriminating decision.
Instead, I think what I described in scenario 2 is the problem of stereotyping which is a subtly different than racism. Stereotyping is a general truth writ large....like "I hate snakes"...when only some snakes are dangerous. As to a further subtly variation of what I mean, consider that scenario 2 not being like racism....is similar to a scenario where a lone woman walking to the other side of the street when seeing a man walking towards her... is not sexism. Stereotyping can have negative/positive effects on people of different races depending on what side of the decision one is on. But I still don't think this is racism. I am being detailed, but I also feel the crime of racism is so bad that society should be very careful in how the charge is applied.
Thoughts?
www.abc.net.au/news/2015-04-08/prince-harry-may-struggle-to-keep-up-with-aboriginal-super-sight/6378066
@@StrategicWealthLLC how does eyesight make one superior? It doesn't. It makes one superior in that particular area.
Jeffrey Youngblood - Well, if some claim that there is an IQ difference between the races/populations, that seems to be considered racist. And that is superiority in only one trait as well.
@@StrategicWealthLLC yeah. That does seem to be true. My question is how is it helpful to point it out? I know plenty of stupid people of all races.
Jeffrey Youngblood - 100% agree....but it is an identical point as the Aboriginal example. The “average” doesn’t apply to the “individual.”
It's Critical Race Theory, it's been around since the late 70s/early80s, and it's not new. It just has a more vocal fanbase due to the unholy plague of thought known as social media.
Jonathan Wotka And it’s just as flawed as CRITICAL THEORY itself! It’s Solely based on JUNK “science” and “observations” by Individuals at Universities that had to figure out ways to sound smart and get works published for tenure! The whole basis For Critical Theory is one big lie used to push far left Agendas! Change My Mind?😁 just threw that in for fun! But Bret Weinstein talks about this at great length and used to be a very progressive left thinker!
@@02Okstate Isn’t Bret Weinstein still a progressive left thinker?
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Isn’t the definition of racism prejudice based on race? So saying that other races can only be prejudiced against whites and not racist is just being racist with a different word.
The definition is not based on prejudice. Racism is specifically based on the belief of race and the belief of supposed racial hierarchies. The classic definition of the word (using the Oxford) is based on ideologies of Wagner, Gobineau, Bismark and Hitler, during the rise of the Nazi's.
Jesse Olsen nope just racism we don’t get to change definitions based on pity party/mental gymnastics it is what it is facts don’t care about feelings.
Bran Stark I’m not sure you understand what he meant
@@blokcomNativeFaces so as long as you don't infringe on a dictionary definition it's not racist? Fucking stupid ass
@@blokcomNativeFaces rac·ism
/ˈrāˌsizəm/
noun
prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.
"a program to combat racism"
synonyms: racial discrimination, racialism, racial prejudice/bigotry, xenophobia, chauvinism, bigotry, bias, intolerance; More
the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.
"theories of racism" ..... please try again ma'am
I go to Oxford University. The first thing my college did before I met anyone there was give us a ‘race workshop’ that told us the buildings there and the university was a colonial institution. They then made everyone line up and told us to step forward if the statements applied to us. They said things that applied mainly to white students such as “my race is represented adaquately on the TV” and “I grew up in an area around people of my race”. They then also inferred that being white helps people get into Oxford.
What a great way to start people getting to know each other.
Dude, being able to hear a conversations regarding this subject without people constantly talking over or yelling at one another is so refreshing. It's sad that it is refreshing rather than it feeling normal.
Cant we agree: We're, all, having a hard time.
And lets chill on the tribal distraction.
That’s a tough concept for low IQers. Can we make them a race and be racist towards them?
@@rerrer3346 oof I'm down
@@rerrer3346 EQ and IQ should be tested
No because my team is more right then your stupid wrong team.
@@chubi167 did he just say that?! Come on team let's get that team!
People of other color and races telling me i have white male privilege has made me resent them, where I never had before. Anti racism is causing racism.
Only to morons who have no actual life experience. An educated person would listen and independently research instead of whining about having negative attention on them.
@@TheSycaman Except Skippy is right. And I have LOTS of experience and have done research. You obviously have neither.
@@nunziobusiness1509 Your reply shows your experience. I live it in realistic terms. Unfortunately my anecdotal evidence is backed up by statistical evidence.
I can say that after working for the Federal government for 12 years where 70% of my coworkers were black, don’t believe for a second that they don’t hate your guts because you’re white. In fact, they’ll talk loudly in front of you about their dislike for white people, avoid getting on an elevator with you, and instead of doing actual work they’ll laugh like hyenas while arguing over who has the best macaroni and cheese recipe. I now avoid black people at all costs. I don’t hate them, I just want nothing to do with them. It’s like we’re from a different planet with completely different brains and reasoning abilities. It’s frightening.
@@BrockLanders what did you do for the government?
The problem with the redefining racism is that when race determines who is racist then the freedom of being an individual is eliminated and that is evil.
Power doesn't corrupt, it enables. When you have power over someone else, it gives you the ability to do whatever you please without repercussions. If your intentions were benign independently of power dynamics, nothing changes.
Never thought of it that way, but good point.
Not strange. It's evil.
@Joe Plummer if this was happening in a vacuum, then yes, that is systemic racism, but historically black people have been oppressed and not given same opportunities for education and been discriminated against for positions for many decades. This equity is a way to undo the wrongs of the past cos one just has to look at any social statistics in terms of academic achievement, health, wealth etc to see blacks are definitely not the privileged in this society. Remember, only 50 years ago we had white supremacy laws in place with segregation, blacks having to move to back of the bus...that laws changed but attitudes didn't simply vanish overnight. We still have all white neighbourhoods, all black etc...still a long way to go for equity and equality.
@m r Racism + power is oppression. You have hit the nail on the head. Well done sir.
@m r they have it wrong. There is no redefinition of racism being taught. This has been the definition of racism since the civil rights movement. Its not new and it never was anything to do with absolving anyone from being racist
At heart, it’s ingroup vs outgroup
Probably, but I think it's a good bit of old fashioned selfish "compensation culture" mixed in. More and more people think they should get paid in some way for simply existing now. Being able to suspend others you disagree with in fear is a form of social power, or social currency and if it can be wielded to make a buck or advance one's station in life, then it makes sense why someone would happily claim to be a victim of racism. The easiest way to become a victim is not to actually experience racism, but to greatly broaden the definition of the word.
@@apatheticallyconcerned6574 that's where we are fucked. I love watching CNN and listening to these disingenuous dumbfucks describe something like this last Caravan, or the next one... It just so happens that everyone's a super hard worker and is in an impossible situation from their home and they just want a chance to have a little something here...
But that's a fucking lie. Like you said, everyone wants to be paid or recognized for nothing these days. Extending that point further, is a culture that's been created in this country where everyone feels like they are entitled to a smartphone, a nice car, a nice computer with high-speed internet in their house.
And because of this we are fucked. There isn't anyone that's ever going to raise their hand and offer to give all of that up.
So we just keep rating the planet's resources, while we subsidize laziness and worthlessness amongst the most poor and most uneducated people that live in our country, which encourages to pump out more and more children that they were never able to afford to begin with, so that they can grow up and mimic they're lazy, uneducated parent or parents.
And then on top of that you have a political entity in this country that would love nothing more than to take all of the lazy and or poor people from every other country and put them here as well.
The truth feels dangerous these days. Next time I'll be more sensitive and be sure to include a trigger warning 🤣
It's tribalism. And it's natural. I wouldn't call it "racism" per se.
Unless you consume too much soy, then it’s the other way around.
Exactly this
The scenario that Haidt relays about answering the door as a man and that being a privilege is ridiculous. What if Haidt was 5' 2" and 100 pounds and the guy on the other end of the door was 6' 4", 250 pounds of solid muscle. Would Haidt still be 'privileged'? Words like 'privilege', 'equal' and 'racism'. are constantly used incorrectly to describe situations.
I don't see how your example invalidates his. It wasn't about a human gorilla. It was an example that showed given the exact set of circumstances the woman wouldn't open the door but the man would. That is privilege by definition.
@@jeffreyyoungblood7438 It's also 200% anecdotal and not even at all related to privilege. Are you kidding me? Answering the door at night is male privilege? That's one of the stupidest things I've ever heard in my life.
I mean, statistically. Mr. Haidt has a greater risk of being assaulted by a stranger. Mrs. Haidt has a greater risk of being assaulted by Mr. Haidt. Men suffer random acts of violence at higher rates, so it definitely is a societal projection of 'danger' and 'privilege.'
Both genders have the privilege of CHOICE in that situation...the woman CAN OPEN THE DOOR TOO. She CHOOSES not to. The statistical data that makes it seem less dangerous for a male clearly overlooks the existence of weapons too.
These SJW, moronic notions of so-called "privilege", and so-called "racism", and so-called "micro-aggressions", are all just a longer, and much weaker way of trying to convey their dislike of LIFE BEING UNFAIR. We used to get over that after our teens at the latest. Now it's just okay to focus on whining about it and try to force life to behave how you wish it would, instead of just overcoming your obstacles like everyone else used to have to do for all of human history. There's a reward in not whining, accepting things for how they are, and overcoming your personal hurdles, whatever they may be. Everyone has hurdles. There's nobody with privileges. We are all humans. That means having talents and flaws. Your social circumstances don't take away having disadvantages and hurdles with certain things, just like EVERYONE ELSE. Get over this shit. It's such a waste of time. Deal with life. Grow up, for fuck sake. That's what I say
I appreciate that Joe let's his guests talk. He interjects his own thoughts but doesn't push the conversation in the direction only he wants it to go.
I would have to say those black guys beating the truck driver Reginald Denny were in a position of power...
@E. Seraphim *"Cops have been getting away with murder and brutality since the beginning of this country"*
Yeah, towards every "race" of peoples. White people are/have been abused by cops too, so what's your point?
@E. Seraphim there is no inherent racial bias in the judicial system. People are convicted or acquitted by a jury of their peers based on the evidence presented and the cases made by both the prosecution and defense. There IS, however, a two-tiered system of justice in this country. It's just not based on race. In the U.S. it's the rich and powerful who get away with everything and the poor who suffer injustice. There's a lot of rich white folks and a lot of poor black folks, so its easy to mistake socioeconomic privilege for racial privilege, but it has nothing to do with race.
@E. Seraphim harsher drug laws were passed concerning "black people drugs" like crack, but it's important to remember that that legislation was introduced by the black caucus who felt that stricter sentences would keep drugs out of black neighborhoods.
@E. Seraphim you can search and search and I promise you that you will never find an inherent or explicit racial bias in our criminal justice system. Many factors impact sentencing including but not limited to prior criminal history, contrition and remorse, cooperation with law enforcement and or court officials etc. It's easy to point to disparities in statistical data and cry foul. But there are always reasonable and valid explanations for those discrepancies. I mean 90% of incarcerated individuals are men and almost nobody seems to think that the criminal justice system hates men do they?
Rodney King was an obstinate little punk who constantly caused run-ins with police. Having to stop the same person over and over again for violations when they won't listen, and remain stubborn in their pursuit of being contradictory to the law. This is a common mindset in black culture; they *don't* listen to police, obstruction of the law, they lie to police (as not to "snitch"). Black culture nurtures "victims" and supports the notion of being non-American. The black movements of today are all inspired by the disgusting Black Panther party, an Islamic organization whose aim is to create a cabal of enemies to the American people. Even when some punk like Michael Brown commits strong-arm robbery and gets shot by police for being uncooperative, the media spins it calling him a "child" (when he was in his 30's) just to tear at the heartstrings of liberal zombies who lack the mental fortitude to understand that the police didn't in fact "murder a black child". Go figure the residents of Ferguson could only respond to this "tragedy" by burning half their town to ashes. I have a really hard time feeling sorry for people who lack the personal agency to not riot in a time of duress, but inner city blacks will absolutely jump at the opportunity to commit atrocities when they know that law enforcement is scarce. They'll rob, cheat and steal if nobody is watching, and they never feel bad about it because they think they're owed reparations, which is apparently dealt out in an inexhaustible amount of theft and hate crimes
Not sure a man opening a door to a stranger is a male "privilege" ffs.
I mean, I guess that being male does mean you're less likely to feel afraid of being victimized. But, the truth is, that's merely a psychological benefit. Men are far more likely to be victims of violent crime, and it's likely because we don't take the same steps to protect ourselves that women do. We're not afraid to answer the door at 2 am when somebody is banging on it. We're not afraid to walk down a dark alley alone at night. Maybe men SHOULD be more afraid than we are, but our psychology won't let us.
It's the benefit of being disposable. Like how the Princess but always have an escort, the mother must always know where the daughter is going, but the Prince slips away in commoners dress all the time, & the father never cares to ask where the son has gone, only what he has accomplished or returned with.
Privileges have their drawbacks. A lack of privilege can be a freedom.
You’re wrong. Only men can open doors. Doors were specifically engineered to only be opened by men, because all the engineers were men.
Ever seem a woman open a door?
Me neither.
My poor anecdotal evidence wins, #maleprivilege exists because I say it does
I'm a woman and that part annoyed me because I would answer the door
It's 'strong male', and yes, it is a privilege. My wife would not ever consider doing that. I am strong. I will open the door ready to smash a face in if it came to it, but that's just me.
No one can hurt your feelings, without your permission.
i don't know what this mean?
@@Dave_of_Mordor It means that you pick and choose what has power over you.
@@MrT9822 but don't you need self confidence and a strong foundation of self worth to do that? You know how many people have low self-esteem bro? A lot!
@@Dave_of_Mordor Does mean that person isn't helpless to change that. I have horrible self esteem. I've been the victim of racism before. But I didnt allow that moment to define who I am. People need to grow thicker skin. And realize that no one can hurt your feelings, unless you allow them too. Sticks and stones will break my bones but words will never hurt me. These are things we teach children. Should we not try to live by these guidelines as adults?
@@MrT9822 but don't words carry some weight as well?
What about how my ex girlfriend got pulled over in the same town that I live in 6 times in 6 months and never got a single ticket I got pulled over one time the bastard gave me 3!
Imagine being scared for your life rightfully so when you're a person of color being pulled over by a cop?
@Out Of Context G Floyd avatar "bruh" you're trying hard there buddy😃
Its not a privilege that men are more able to defend themselves, its an advantage but a privilege would be some sort of special treatment.
Using different words for things doesn’t magically change their practical impact. People need to understand this. Call it privilege, advantage or whatever but men are given more opportunity than women
No men are not given more opportunity than women. It would be a privilege if they were but they are not. If someone comes from poverty and earns $5 million they are not more privileged than someone who who inherited $4 million.
@@omo2786 Men and women have different kinds of privilege, and both sexes like to claim martyrdom.
Men are also more likely to be attacked as well. Nobody is going to hit a pretty girl. But if your a guy with success in any department other men want to physically cause you harm.
Where as women just use slander to cut down other women
The choice of whether or not to open the door isn’t defined by sex at all but about choice. I know women who wouldn’t think twice about opening the door and could effectively defend themselves and I know men who wouldn’t open the door out of fear for their safety. That was a load of crap.
5:15 - so, if you answer the door as a man, and get shot in the face by someone, that's a privilege?? Right!
Thanks for highlighting this Joe. This topic has split many of my friends. You're correct. But being correct isn't enough when the other side bases their facts in feelings and not reality.
Feelings are reality, just a part of it, unlike people who make it 80% of reality of which it is NOT.
My teacher 2 years ago in my junior high school English class preached the fact that only white people could be racist in America. This man has continued and is continuing to say this in his classes. He’s also a basketball teacher, what a great man for these impressionable young minds to get brainwashed by.
This guy was one sided on his examples. You find "Privileges" in every group of people.
If you looking to find it, then I guess so.
Maybe the trick is to not look for it? Instead . . . . I dunno, maybe try and treat everyone with respect, and focus on self-improvement instead of seeking to degrade and/or disempower others?
Mikee well that would be great in an ideal world. But we don’t live in one. Your solution would be great if it was applicable to modern society but it simply isn’t. Don’t try to view the solution to racism through logic because it is an illogical issue in the first place
@@itsrena9750 "Its not new, this being taught since the 70's. You must have racism + power" bro saying it doesn't make it true, try again.
@@omo2786 Racism is logical to the people who hold racist attitudes because of perceived injustice, so appealing to their innate logic and empathy is the best way to get them to re-evaluate their beliefs. Show that you recognize their needs and struggles so they will see you are acting in good faith. The Golden Rule is effective because it helps us perceive the external needs of others as valuable in relation to our own. It's not perfect, and it won't help with the people who are too comfortable and insulated in their beliefs. But it still makes sense to use logic and empathy when you challenge them because it will expose their absurdity to those who are willing to re-evaluate themselves.
@nathan smith let me complete yr sentence properly..."because you have no power to oppress"...the slave being whipped or the jew being cooked are being racist when they say that...
Racism is just ingroup preference, its a natural phenomenon that has existed since the dawn of humanity.
Preferences don't hate, degrade or kill. Life isn't in a bubble.
Racism doesn't exist. It took me a long time to see that, but Jesse Lee Peterson is right.
No, you are thinking of tribalism. Group think.
Racism is a social construct. Race is real. There's no universal definition on racism. There's no proof of racism. You can't measure it. You can't put it in numbers.
To some racism is a glass of milk, to others it's the hate of all people who don't look like you, to some it's racism if you want to marry someone your own race. Everyone has their definition on racism. We should stop talking about it like it's settled science.
Rape has existed since the dawn of humanity. Your point?
This guest is incredibly pleasant to listen to. His voice and pattern of speech are like unintentional ASMR. His students must love his lectures.
Joe doesn’t get his point across very clearly. But I think what he’s after is that talking about privilege when referring to these issues is just getting it backwards.
If someone is not afraid of people making false preconceptions about them based on their race, gender, sexual preference, etc. that is not privilege, that is how it _should_ be - for everyone. The focus should be on fighting racism not this so called ‘privilege’.
Of course, I realize that the real aim of people pushing this privilege theme is to shame people so they will ‘move out of the way’ so they can get their own privileged position
5:08, he's talking BS. Only a naive person would open their door to a stranger banging on the door in the middle of the night.
I don't think so. He explained that he felt safe opening the door because they were in a very nice hotel. If they were in a cheap motel on the side of the road in the middle of nowhere there's no chance he opens that door.
@@connman8d617 You are making my point. You are saying it is class/neighborhood rather than gender.
What is naive about it? And he never said it was a gender thing, he said his wife saw it that way. So your post is the BS.
@@sabbracadabra8367 because he's opening the door based on the assumption that there isn't a psycho with a gun/knife on the other side of that door all based on "well, it's a good neighborhood"
@@bleack8701 And what is wrong with that?
I remember the Klan protested in front of my high school. Now the racists are inside the school teaching racism..
What
“Talk less and take up less space” legit that sentence alone kinda pissed me off.
I do feel privileged. Not because im white but because compared to the entire world i am. People in other countries really got it fucked up. Doesnt make me feel guilty. Makes me feel blessed.
"Reverse racism" I often hear in this case, when in reality, it's just old fashioned racism.
“This is being taught???” With all the disgust in the world 😂😂
Racism is not dead, but it is on life support - kept alive by politicians, race hustlers and people who get a sense of superiority by denouncing others as "racists." - Thomas Sowell
Female "privilege" exists along with that "male privilege". If a man hits a woman in public, 99% of people who see it happen will side with the woman regardless of the reason. Other men will defend her. It's natural instinct. As it should be.
Also, this "male privilege" comes with responsibility. If a man opens his front door at night, he knows he's responsible for defending whoever is in his house.
Why can't we just accept that each sex has different privileges and responsibilities?
I love how these films are edited. The video starts in the middle of a conversation and sometimes you wonder what was the previous discussion about "..yea a flamethrower took care of that, and then we had to deal with all the goats in the living room". You're like WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE?!
Tauno Kekkonen lol!!
The whole interview is available, it is edited here for topic id.
I live in a one bedroom apartment, with a roommate i might add. Just finished doing my laundry AT THE LAUNDRY MAT, I work 6 days a week just to survive and pay the bills for the meager lifestyle that i live. I am a 30 year old white male.
I had a teacher in college that said that black people can't be racist towards white people because the "have nots" cannot be racist towards the "haves" which to me seemed not only presumptuous, but a rather racist point of view in its own way.
As a white kid in New Orleans who took public transportation through high school, I definitely went into social situations where I feared being attacked for my race. Happened all the time. I was definitely not in a position of power and was harassed, robbed and spit on because I was in a minority. I did not feel privileged for being white.
This guy told happy gilmour to send the ball home now hes a professor, keep grinding people
It‘s strange cause Joe Rogan says overly generalizing things about white people all the time
His wife is a j*w.
F Fu no
F Fu makes sense. Plus I always find it interesting how privileged white men are always the ones who are trusted to decide what is and isn’t racism. Society perceives black people to want to use racism as an excuse. For that reason people who have never experienced or been disadvantaged by it are “qualified” to talk about it
F Fu Jewish is a religion and German is a nationality. Nothing that you just said had anything to do with race or racism
@@kieranc6841 Jews are a ethnoreligious group. It is a religion and also a distinct ethnic group. Nazis didn't just discriminate against Jews based on their religion. There was most definately a racial aspect to their hatred towards the Jews which you can clearly see in the propaganda of the time. If you don't know this go read some books. It isn't difficult to educate yourself on this, there is a lot of literature on it.
My brother signing up to play an early access game was rejected because he is a white male and "cis". But they accepted his friend because she is trans. The company literally told him that was their reason. My brother is their biggest fan and buys all their products but was turned down.
There really doesn’t need to be a discussion, it is not complicated. If you are judged solely on the basis of the color of your skin, that is racism, plain and simple anyone who says “well acktually” is either racist or apologetic to racists.
The oppressed have a vested interest in maintaining their oppression to avoid taking responsibility for their own actions and choices.
So what if they weren't oppressed anymore? How would that change the dynamic?
The devil speaks
Easy to talk when you don’t have any interactions with the oppressed.
EVERYTHING is a matter of YOUR perception.
You CHOOSE to be "offended".
Oh, now you're just being sexist.
I had a HISTORY instructor telling me that Black people can't be racist and Racism = Race + Powder.
the fucking irony.
As an American of Polish heritage I was told by a Black coworker that I had "no ethnicity and no culture".
The most ignorant thing you can say to a White American is "You have no culture" assuming that their family has been living in the USA for generations and/or haven't kept their European culture.
This conversation reminds me of a lesson taught in a high school English class. (Minnesota school, quite liberal) Our Asian teacher made it very clear that white people cannot be a victim to racism, and I accepted this as fact. An ideal that could prove very dangerous for white folks that are the minority in certain areas of the United States.
The guest doesnt seem to know what he is talking about. His example of opening the hotel door where as his wife wouldnt is a prime example. It is NOT a privilege to have an obligation to put yourself in harm's way. This is not about men being stronger and being more capable to protect ourselves. There are these things called knives and guns so it's not that he did not feel less endangered than his wife in this situation, but he was in fact doing what was expected of him as a man. That is a female privilege if nothing else.
Another prime example is his idea of the difference of how conversations could go if you are white as opposed to when you are black. This is nonsensical. ANY trait/occupation/hobby/political view/etc can be used to make this distinction depending on the situation. You can replace black/white in this scenario with gamer/jock/meathead/princess/gold digger/banker/teacher/redhead/disabled/etc. IF the people around you view this perceived quality of yours to have a negative connotation they can "spoil" the conversation. Limiting it to something based on race only works if you are biased towards race issues. As the NPCs are.
Razomir i don’t think you can say his wrong just because you disagree
@@Ignited_Trap Ergo the arguments I presented. So yes, I can, in fact.
Razomir no you can’t just because you did that it makes no sense to do that his not wrong you can disagree but you can’t say his wrong just because you think his wrong
@@Ignited_Trap On the contrary. You cannot say I "just" disagree with him when I have explained at length why I disagree and where. If you think my arguments are incorrect feel free to let me know where and why. But up until this point you have only made a statement of your opinion whereas I have made an argument, so I say again - I absolutely can say he is wrong as explained above.
@@Ignited_Trap You should try some punctuation. Otherwise your comments sound a bit like word salad. That being said, you either dont know how arguments work or are being purposefully obtuse. Anyone can say someone else is wrong if they provide a good enough argument. This is not a matter of personal preference and thus something subjective. On the contrary, the topic is quite factual and objective. If you say the world is flat I can tell you that you are objectively wrong. And it is not just because I personally disagree but because there are facts to support it. Same situation here. and by the way you are contradicting yourself. If I cannot say he is wrong "just" because I disagree with him, then you cannot say I am wrong just because you disagree with me. Get it? Bit of a double standard.
I'm mixed, visually Mexican, but I was raised by my white mother, so my perspective on this is that I have been more often ostracized and outcasted because of my "white" behaviors than I ever have been for being brown.
"But if you're black, someone is going to make an assumption."
I can't tell you how many times I've been yelled at by black AND white people for listening to rap music when I pull into a gas station...
“You can turn a good man evil; just exclude him, condemn his open-mindedness, & attack his character; he is now your enemy.”
- Jordan Reed
Bruh did you just quote yourself 😂
The definition is amorphous so they can apply it whenever they want to.
I can confirm this was being taught in high school, my senior year I was fully remote from school because of covid-19, I went to Brockton high school in MA, my English teacher showed an hour long UA-cam video of different people talking about and explaining how a black person cannot be racist, and my school being pro dominantly black I was one of the only white kids in the class and even through the screen from at home I felt I couldn’t say anything about it, and thankfully a friend of mine came on the class zoom call and said “I’m black and I’m not racist but If I were to say and act amongst the belief that all white people were racists or any adjective, that in turn would make me racist because I’m generalizing all of a race of people to be the same or similar, He said even good adjectives that people use and call stereo types like all Asians are good at math, even tho most people would say being good at math is a good thing, saying u believe someone that u don’t know is good at math jus because of their race well that is still a realistically racist statement” and jus about the whole class all agreed and someone else said anybody could be racist or any type of anything regardless of how they actually look or what they are. And when I tell u, this teacher actually sat there and tried to get into arguing with a class of 20+ none white kids about them all being invulnerable to being racist regardless of what they said and she got shut down so much I think she ended up scrapping all the assignments revolving around that subject, was som strange stuff
Was the teacher black or white? Such a weird thing to teach.
Imagine being a dude and some one is banging on the door yelling and you just hide away in your room. You are expected to go tell the guy to leave and risk getting into a dangerous encounter. It’s an expectation/duty not a privilege.
There is one golden rule that could end all this hatred and confusion... TREAT OTHER PEOPLE HOW YOU WISH TO BE TREATED YOURSELF. We can but but try. All of us. X
Affirmative action is privilege
Elliot Rodger having below par schools and living in areas that lack the facilities that your peers have is being under privileged. Yet people don’t want to take note of that factor. Race represents social class so when affirmative action helps black people that’s with the accurate assumption that the majority of black people have less privileges education wise than Asians. It evens out the playing field. I don’t necessarily agree with it but if we want to solve discrimination in education let’s start at the root of the problem and that’s giving everyone equal opportunity from day 1 not revoking a system that helps diversify higher education.
Affirmative action isn't privilege. It's an ineffective way of fighting privilege. Look at how underfunded schools are in black areas. Look at the advantages that the white/suburban students have from day 1. I don't like affirmative action because I don't think it's effective to try to even the playing field AFTER the black students have already gone through the inner city school systems. But when you say affirmative action is priviledge that's wrong because you're completely ignoring the reality of our world that leads to affirmative action being there in the first place.
@@omo2786 .... What exactly makes a school below par? Money? Public schools are predominantly made up of and paid for by the people of that same community. Moreover, most importantly, there are "white communities" across the country that receive far less funding per student that those in the "less privileged" black inner-city communities, and they don't have the same crazy drop-out rates that had to be bent by lower academic standards so that's not a good enough explanation. Quality of education has everything to do with the environment in which children are learning... I'm assuming you agree.... and what is that environment often like? Do know that many schools are now having to hire teachers from outside the US to work in those schools? Why? Because often those jobs are fkt up. Teachers have always had to get by with not enough unfortunately, not now they, and kids who actually want to learn, have to deal with a large contingency shyty people who have free reign to ruin it for everyone else. So what really is the privilege? That white schools have less of those people to contend with? Is that your point? More money would solve this problem? There have always been poor people... always... but their kids weren't taking crazy fist fighting the fkin teachers man. There is a problem, but it's a paradox of black people contributing heavily to their own demise. Calling white people "privileged" as if they are "given" freely something that others can't possibly earn themselves isn't honest, and most importantly it's not helpful because it doesn't describe the actual problems in any way. If one kid earns a spot in a university on merit, and doesn't get it because another is given it for the sake of some obscure concept of "diversity".... which means not white or Asian.... that's a privilege.
Affirmative Action isn't just a privilege, it is the definition of racism. Offering someone a job or scholarship solely based on their skin color is fucking racist.
Vikinghammer87 well so is doing the opposite. It’s racist to diversify third level right? But I’m sure you weren’t saying it was racist when only white and Asian kids could get into college
i honestly think sexism is a bigger issue than racism
I like this guy and I think he means well, but him saying that he doesn't have to worry when he goes to social counters that somebody will make an assumption about his skin color just proves he doesn't hang out with people of different skin colors. My social group growing up was predominantly Black or Mexican and going to parties and experiencing racism towards me or an assumption towards me was a thing and it does make you self-conscious about how you will be perceived
Every time I hear racism, I can only see...
Humans, elves, orcs, halflings , dwarves
That’s race, we’re all humans.
PlagueInfected - 8492nd Fighter Wing well technically they're different species not races.
@@insertname1667 where's somewhere that they are labeled as a "species"? lol
I haven't heard one yet actually lol
PlagueInfected - 8492nd Fighter Wing no where that I'm sure of to be honest but that's the correct term to be using for the different fantasy "races" they're all different species of sentient animals from one another.
This podcast is such a blessing and a breath of fresh air. Thank you Joe.
No longer on yt😭
@@dheerajb1883 At least the highlights are still here
People mix up being culturally insensitive as being racist.
I had to do a privilege exercise in my Freshman English class at Virginia Tech. Literally just had everyone step forward if they were white, parents had stable jobs, etc
Yikes. So the rumors about colleges being closed minded is true?
5:08 that's not male privilege, it's naivety. If someone knocks on my door late at night with my wife and kids I don't care how nice the hotel is I am not opening that door and making sure I have my gun ready to go.
This is also the same guy that lets his daughter walk home alone in NY from the bakery. Geez.
My English teacher literally tried to teach my class this
My English teacher tried to do the same, but the entire class gave the aura of screw off. She took the hint and continued to teach. (She was pregnant at the time so we cut her son slack, and she was actually a really good English teacher).
What grade? University or grade school?
Bro the “wooo 😐” part got me
Guy: Is genuinely excited to go to the Golden Globes with his wife
Joe: *sarcastic who-hoo*
I go to a private school. I confirm this is being taught.
Seriously? That’s frightening.
I need to watch this video but that lip sound AHHHHHHTSTDUFUSTFUFJFUFUJFJC DRINK SOME WATER BUD
Fuck u i cannot unnotice hahahah
Nope once you hear it thats all you hear lmao
Yeah, it’s pretty nasty. Though a lot of it has to do with the SM7B mics they’re using. Great mics, but they have a unique ability to exaggerate mouth noise - especially with bad mic technique.
My main issue is that people don't realize that privilege isn't inherently a bad thing. By virtue of living in America, even minorities are very privileged most of the time, due to the wealth u likely get to enjoy. Yet, other people in the world also have much privilege to live in beautiful locations such as people living in Thailand or the Maldives. Like...should people *necessarily* feel guilty for having some privilege in life? I don't think so.
If I were in the top 1%, I would want to change the definition of racism to in saying only white men can be racist. That way people focus on racial differences and not class differences which helps me get richer.
2:00 - 2:20 definitely struck a chord with me. I have always felt this way ever since I saw/listened to George Carlin's rant on the context of hate speech. The fact that people can lambast anyone for making a soundwave with their vocal chords regardless of what the context is, is completely insane.
Not to long ago the company I work at (in SoCa btw, which is important to note because Cali is losing its minds over all this bullshit) had a mandatory sensitivity training season where his lady had a PowerPoint slide that read "it's not about the intent, it's about the impact." And I thought to myself, "there really is no hope for the human race, is there..." smfh
this is taught in south portland high school along with the wage gap, social genders, and talking about marx as if he was a great philosopher that did well to the world. maine used to be a red state.....
Marx was a coward who couldn’t be relevant in the world in any meaningful way. So he created a philosophy of hatred aimed at real contributors to society by appealing to other non contributing cowards by telling them they were oppressed because someone else had more power and was more successful than they were. So essentially, Cultural Marxism is a philosophy for the weak who would rather blame other more successful people for their personal failures rather than getting off of their asses and accomplishing something on their own.
That's pretty fucked up. I'm all for teaching to treat everyone kindly and with respect, but teaching that controversial idea as morally right is just wrong.
Weirdly, this video pops up in my recommended 2 days after Reddit creates a special provision in their "hate speech" policy, allowing "hate speech" against "groups of people who are in the majority"
Wow so we can finally talk shit about poor people and low IQ people. I like this
I was in a restaurant in Chicago and I overheard a little white girl say to her mom "I wish I was something special and not white". The mother was playing on on her phone not really giving her daughter any attention and said "that's good".
Jay Leno’s brother?
If you define racism as treating people different according to their ethnicity or race, you will never “solve” racism. It’s human nature. Human beings feel comfortable and identify with people who look them, speak like them and share a common culture with. And therefore treat them differently.
If your tribe is inhabiting an area 100, 000 years ago, and some strangers mass along your village.....that was a real threat to your existence. It has been engraved into our DNA over the millennia. And it’s not restricted to white people. Try living in Chinatown or little Vietnam as a non Asian, you will be treated differently. Try living in Parts of east Los Angeles as a non Hispanic, you will be treated differently, Glendale, Watts, etc. The best option going forward in a multi ethnic country like the US, is to find common values or shared culture, and rally behind that, and expand that to set a base. If not, we will be in a perpetual state of mistrust and hostility towards one another.
your 100% right.
@The Flying Dutchman exactly why diversity is NOT our strength.
No but you don't understand the fucking point of the left is to take away all shared values. It's that there is no such thing as being able to communicate 1v1 with someone because "You're a fucking white male." It's to take away any sense of responsibility or morals. It's post modernism.
It's worse joe. it's not the victims of racism that are now using racism by wedponising definitions it's:
The defenders of the victims of racism, who have never experienced racism themselves changing the definitions and committing to racism, and predominantly against their own people as a form of internalised guilt mechanics that they themselves created over things that they never committed.
It's insane and we should be getting these people some mental health support.
Red-Lining is a perfect example of racism. Me saying I don’t like a certain ethnicity or religion is prejudice. An incorrect preconceived ideology of someone or something. More often times taught. Racism is more than hate or a strong dislike. Affecting groups of people of a certain ethnicity or religion. Or controlling there neighborhoods based off your prejudice is what’s racist. A bum calling me the n word isn’t racist it’s prejudice. He speaking from a position of ignorance not power. That’s a huge distinction we gotta acknowledge.
People of different groups have different privileges.
Julian Fischer what privileges do black people have? Name 2
@@kari1303 Race, ethnicity and culture offer different privileges, or advantages, or things of value. Specific to race: Blacks tend to have more muscle mass that can help them excell at certain sports like sprinting or football. This varies with ethnicity (ex. Ethiopians are generally not built this way, but tend to excell in long distance running).
Culturally, blacks often grow up with elements of African culture like dance, certain kinds of music and traditions that people of other races may not be exposed to (this is privilege). Some blacks grow up with certain values in their family depending on where they are from. Nigerian American immigrant families for example, tend to value personal responsibility and formal education more than other groups.
In terms of overlap between poor communities and blacks: blacks who grow up in households with many siblings are given opportunities to develop social skills and intimacy in ways that middle class children in smaller households are not.
Julian Fischer Bro. What the fuck. Ok I’m a 20 year old black man and that’s honestly one of the weirdest comments I’ve ever read. Go outside and meet people more, that’s our natural genetics those are not privileges. We do not benefit as a whole off of those things, shit if anything we just get stereotyped like you did with your comment. I’m 6’3 and I suck at basketball lol.
Julian Fischer As a white male in the “united states” you have an advantage Politically, economically, even socially I’d have to say you guys are privileged, we had to learn YOUR language that was spread everywhere with colonialism and the white media’s narrative. We created rock and all the other music you love but we only have Rap (barely). Idk man I don’t really care about this kind of shit but I’m just saying it’s disrespectful to just dismiss the truth. Intellectual dishonesty is rampant in this comment section
Julian Fischer I said “As a white male we had to learn your language” I didn’t specifically say we had to learn your language because you can be anyone behind your internet avatar that gives you courage to have conversations with people that you should in real life.
It’s dark times it really is
The discussion on inherent “privilege” was some of the most enlightening content I’ve seen on the internet in years.
How tf is saying someone is born racist going to solve racism if anything it makes it impossible for there to be an end to racism.
I'm disappointed to see them argue about racism but then agreeing on "male privilege."
Existential envy, everything else is just an abstraction on top of their core reason for changing the definition
When he said he went to open the door to confront a drunk stranger, I literally thought: NO DON’T DO IT YOU IDIOT! It’s such a deeply ingrained response.
Anyone who thinks you can’t be racist towards privileged people or sexist towards men think of this.
Your whole movement is based on EQUALITY.
Putting someone down because of their social or racial situation which they ALSO have no control over is not equality.