Did he though? Did he make this? Or did he just pile together a bunch of clips? Or did he take a doc from a certain country and just post it on the internet?? 🙃
Wrt the Zodiac having experience as a police officer, while that is possible (and we saw such a case with the Golden State Killer), it has also been noted in criminal profiling that it's not uncommon for serial killers to be obsessed with law enforcement, even if they can't make it into actual law enforcement positions. They may even seek out employment as something like a security guard or spend time at places that are known hang-outs for law enforcement.
to me it feels aswell that he was just interested in it, as with the coding, if he has a hobby/interest in something, he goes into the subject verrry deep, this would also apply to police work, or maybe other interests.
His uncle was a cop. The uncle wrote murder pulps and that is how he was found (one way) his pulps were matching to the murders. The caliber of bullet cops use in this particular state matches up to some of the murders. The uncle lived in Riverside during the killling years, uncle and Zodiac left SF at the same time. I thought it was this uncle at first who was Zodiac, but then at the time of research, he was too old. I went to ancestry found the family tree and found one guy in the family that was the correct age to be Zodiac. Yes - that was a match to the name in Z340 and Z408 and the name of the suspect my partner found. The uncle was right on front page of Lady of Doom, a reissue. That is how I got the uncles name. Weirdly, that issue was the one circulated by Zodiacers.
Lets take a look at some facts. 5 minutes before the Darlene murder a cop called Richard is in the area, he radios station saying nobody is around. Right before the attack Mike believes a cop pulls up behind their car, Darlene exclaims 'It's Richard!'. A man (believed by Darlene to be Richard, by Mike to be a cop) opens the door a torch shining in the victims faces. Mike reaches for his wallet believing it to be a cop. The attack begins. Right after the attack a cop called Richard is on the scene. Admits to moving the bodies. Idk about you guys, but I think it was probably this guy Richard - who claims not to know Darlene, despite people believing he attended her party before.. not to mention he says he knows where she worked? How can he know that if he doesnt know her? Hes the guy. Simple.
I’ve always thought the zodiac killer was a cop,park ranger, someone of authority ….that’s why so many people pulled over and never tried to flee, why he didn’t get caught surely… someone must remember someone who was odd or always wanted to be involved with these cases when he was back in the force! Sounds like he would’ve had a personality a lot like bundy… or maybe even the golden state killer! Someone who blends in are always the hardest serial killers to catch.
I think it was law inforcement, because he seemed to be somewhat forensically aware, even though DNA didn't exist, I think they only ever got a partial print.
At 34:40, listen to how he hesitates before saying "murder". You can hear him begin to say "homicide" but then stop and correct himself. Could be an attempt to hide his profession 🤷♂️
28:27 Cecilia got stabbed many more times and was stabbed in her chest, vital organs and lungs while he was stabbed in the small of his back and in less lethal areas with not vital organs or lungs being hit. That is why she probably had less energy and didn’t end up making it. At the end of the day, no matter how much will you have to live, you might not make it. It depends on the injuries and how long it takes for you to get help. They waited for over an hour or two before getting medical attention. I don’t think her passing away. Had anything to do with her will to live. Saying “she gave up” or “had no will to live” is disrespectful.
The reporter never implied this at all. Just because he suggested that Brian made it because he had strong faith and will to live, doesnt mean he was suggesting that Cecilia didnt. He was talking about Brian, he was interviewing Brian, so he was telling his story. He wasnt being disrespectful, im sure he knew full well that Cecilia's injuries were fatal.
@@darlordvader that what I think happens if we ever do find out. I have a strange ambivalent feeling about it where I love the mystery and spookiness of it but I’m gagging to know who it was. I think the guy ended up in jail for another different crime which is why it went silent or at least that’s what I like to think.
Really excited to share this True Crime documentary with you, it was a passion of love, and given how new this channel is I don't expect it to get crazy views, so I'm looking forward to seeing if everyone who does watch it, enjoys watching it as much as I loved making it. Learned a lot making this, 200+ hours of editing and I still think I've got so much to learn. Enjoy and I'll see you guys on the next one
Great job Jason , doing what 250 others are up loading. It's great someone has thought of the true crime theme to focus on especially serial killers what gave you the inspiration ? Man it's all been repeated over and over it's old 2nd hand news fuck me it's not original .
I've always thought the way to get these people justice of course now it's too late is to find out where he was for the 3 years that he didn't write any letters. The only possible form of Justice they will ever get now on this planet as if he's identified. And I can tell you positively absolutely 100% the man they keep claiming is the zodiac is not and the police don't believe it either.
I really like what looks like, the "decode" effect where some of the words transition from what look like zodiac cipher homophones. I prefer runes myself.
i’m serious man this doc is amazing! if you continue making long-form docs like this your fan base will grow exponentially and i have no doubt about that. this was incredible, great work. now i have to dive into all of you other videos.
Thanks so much, this is only the second really long form documentary video, I decided a couple months back to switch to one video per month and the only goal is to make each one better than the last, aiming for 45-90 minute documentary style videos :) The only goal is to try make each one better than the last, hopefully if I do that the views will come! Thanks again so much for the comment, really appreciate it :D
@@Elle-elle-elle Including the sources would probably require respecting the work others made...and acknowledging possible copyright. I guess Hbomberguy didn't teach content creators enough...
As so many others, I have been following this case for a long time, seen most of the documentaries, done some own research (absolutely not professionally). I have to say that you really package this superbly! Great work!
Like most old people, I've followed the Zodiac story for over fifty years. This well constructed documentary was more informative than any others I've seen. Both informative and entertaining. Kudos.
@@EdEdwardsCiphers No, there is a documentary where a offspring of a person named Earl Van Best says their father was the zodiac killer. They show his name in the cyphers and such.
Hey Jason! Loved your UFO doco so super excited to get into this. Your channel is criminally under rated right now so I think big numbers on the horizon.
I've sometimes suspected with this one -- like a couple of others -- that there was one original guy and then another inspired by him through media reports, and the two of them got conflated.
Many actually think it was group of 3 in a cult. That why fingerprints do not match, descriptions do match, some have alibis blah blah blah so who knows
to me it seems more of a game, the killings or attempted ones as a cause to the game. coding is a hobby, how much of a mind game can you play, as he stated: killing humans is the most fun, as its the most dangerous animal. from "the big game". also why no additional kilings, why no additional letters or so, because to me, the game was over for him. also he stated: "im not sick i am insane, but that will not stop the game"
An impressive piece of work! Amazingly captivating and surprisingly refreshing style in how the acts, events, incidents with their established facts were so beautifully laid out with all their particular points of interest and/or contention, inconsistencies, etc. weaved in such a unique way that it was really effortless to follow along. Even without any prior knowledge about anything more than the mere knowledge that there once roamed a serial that called himself The Zodiac Killer and that he taunted the police, spreading unimaginable fear in the communities he was active in. I have to say that the pace/tempo that the entire video keeps is genuinely a feat that elevates the experience. As the retelling or describing of the actual killing thankfully wasn’t tried to be made more shocking, scary, horrific or disturbing than it already was. Thus contributing to an easier, much info intake. This is one of those super rare finds that one does but once in a while 🙌👊👌🤓 I thank you for sharing your amazing work, appreciate it! I do sincerely hope and look forward to seeing more of your skilled content production..well not the actual production per se but the product or that..production.. Cheers ✌️🖖!
Brian Hartnell didn’t call her by name, or GF. He said the “the girl” did anyone else notice that or think that was strange?? Even back in the 60’s seems weird!!
thank the good lord you actually put the names of the movies you put in your video , SO many youtubers show clips of good movies and no names , so i go in circles trying to find it , thank you !
Great job! I love these true crime documentaries. I’ve seen all of them. Great job intermingling the original investigation reports with the most current. You kept the facts straight. I don’t think it was Arthur L. Allen. Who it was we will probably never know. What a sad and disturbing case.
Thanks a lot! Yeah I wanted to make something, like the previous UFO doc, that is more for someone new to the case and give the evidence, the theories and then sprinkle in my opinion 😁
I always thought it could've been a team of two.... one man committing the actual murders, and the other writing the letters. That would explain why everything pointed to Allen but yet the handwriting couldn't be linked to him. It could be that the man writing the letters committed the taxi cab driver murder. But then you have the inconsistencies that Graysmith states in his book, so who knows... maybe Allen had nothing to do with it, but there was a hell of a lot of coincidences. The watch itself having the zodiac logo was a hell of a "coincidence."
I can’t believe you only have 11k subs. This was a fantastically high quality documentary. Incredibly polished. Very interesting documentary in it if itself. Great story boarding. Just so good. Keep up the fantastic work. You rock and will be huge one day. Even if you don’t somehow blow up one day, just know that your production quality is nothing short of amazing. Thank you!
I think about that a lot actually. It's funny that you're the first person to write what I've thought about for a while. I thought it was only me. I'll end up writing that somewhere I"m sure.
Yes, I think it's his grandson who came out recently on TikTok saying all the reasons why he's sure it's Richard Hoffman, his grandfather. Many people speculated that a police officer was the killer given the circumstances surrounding the killings.
My mother told me a story about Son of Sam. She was driving at night with a friend, and her car broke down on the side of the road. A guy stopped and offered to help, and said he just needed to get one tool. He kept trying to get my mother or her friend to join him in his car to go just down the road. This was while Son of Sam was doing his killing.
Some of the Zodiac murders were committed at Blue Rock Springs State Park. It is so eerie to hear the name of that place-I went there so often as a kid. When visiting my grandparents ( both sets) in Vallejo, it was a place they would take my sister and I. I always found it a strange place. It was always nearly empty. Peacocks roamed the grounds with their creepy cries that would come out of nowhere.
Yeah wild case, i wonder if they ever will! Glad you enjoyed it, you might like the new dating game killer one if you liked this, similar video but even crazier story :)
@thatjasonhassett Yes it is. I hope they find out who it was. But I don't think they will. He'll be unknown forever , like Jack the ripper! Again, thank you for the video! It wss really good.
Your video just popped up in my feed, watched, liked and subscribed! Definitely one of the best videos that I've seen regarding the Zodiac Killer, excellent work, well done! Keep 'em coming! 👍🏻👌🏼👏🏻
So your theory is that a hired gun decided to bring attention to his crimes by writing letters to the police in an effort to *distract* people from the killings? That doesn't make any sense to me.
A hired killer has a link to each murder through the person who hired them, while a serial killer does not. If the police think you're a serial killer (I think this is how the theory goes), they're not going to be looking at people in the victim's circle. The way they approach the case will work to a hired killer's advantage.
@@dsolosan That's some 400 level IQ stuff there. That's a lot of hoops to go through. I often wonder, if some choose to believe in particular theories because the truth of reality breaks their brains. Perhaps. Who knows?
@@EdEdwardsCiphers You've got to start searching somewhere because you never have enough resources to search everywhere. You have to deal with the evidence you have. I think some people choose to believe in particular theories because they've followed a path, and don't want to admit they were wrong, wasted their time, etc.
@@dsolosan I believe that applies to me as well. I've invested my resources, as meager as they are, in researching an actual serial killer. Who actually murdered couples. On actual lovers lanes. Who stayed a block from where Paul Stine was murdered. And is considered by many in law enforcement to both have been the Zodiac Killer. And to have killed many others.
Something I noticed in the Zodiac's writing. I think he purposely spells each letter and each number different. The only pattern I see is the Zodiac did his best not to leave a pattern in his writings.
Yeah he's either disabled or he's doing it on purpose. If it's on purpose it's either clever (not genius, just clever) or he heard of someone else doing it. Anyone can make a cipher that is extremely difficult to crack, just don't be consistent
@@no_peace He never even made one single cipher. Hes just clever, millions believe him and they should not have, that is why those so called ciphers werent solved in over 50 years.
He also made mistakes. They solved one of the few I cracked cyphers a few years back. The reason it went unsolved is that it had errors, making it that much harder to decipher.
@@Super.Whimsy It could be errors. I think the ciphers weren’t meant to be solved. Just something to keep the police business and a waste of resources.
The guy who was the Pedro in his blackout interview he's stops him self from chucking buy stopping and dropping his head with a smile on his face half way through a sentence trying to gather his front but can't and lifts his head with upturned side of his mouth,, guilty
I watched the film Zodiac yesterday, not initially realising it was based on true events. While interesting, I have found this documentary to be much more interesting. A very good presentation.
Military man operating as a gun for hire under the guise of a serial killer… that’s the *exact* thesis of Dave McGown’s Programmed to Kill. The seminal work on this topic.
Born/raised in Vallejo in the 70s (~ 90s). I lived blocks from the Ace Hardware store on Amador & Tennessee and walked by it every day to junior high (on Amador). I Even shopped there alone as a teen while ALA worked there (I cannot say I remember him at the store). My junior high was just 3 blocks from his home and 2 from the pancake house. We were allowed to leave school for lunch and would walk by his street to get to the nearby 7/11 and “Lileds” candy store. We were largely unaware he was a suspect, we didn’t have the internet back then. One thing I’d like to point out, that no one has, is that in that era, in Vallejo at least, people used a bottle of clear glue to glue stamps on. It was a clear plastic bottle with a red (?) large rubber tip meant specifically for that. They also used it at the post office. I remember it well because as a kid, I always wanted to put the stamps for my mom using that glue and we were always at the post office sending mail. I don’t know when people stopped using it. But anyhow, the fixation with the stamps plus the fact that ALA didn’t like to lick stamps, I would think he likely would have used the same glue. It was quite common! I may be wrong but I’ve heard that the DNA taken from the stamps is from the top of the stamp, not the bottom.
Not to mention using ordinary tap water. My mom had a gizmo that was basically a plastic tube with a sponge on one end. You filled it with water and used it to seal envelopes and affix stamps.
Allen could have written the letters (he seemed to like the attention) and the killer, was other guy. That makes the most sense to me. Cause the sketch wasn't similar to Allen in any way. That explains a lot. That's also why the DNA doesn't match. And maybe, just maybe, the killer was Richard Gaikowski: 1. Edited a magazine called "Good Times". Zodiac makes reference to "good times" in his ciphers. 2. Had a history of mental health problems, including violent outbursts. 3. The dispatcher recognised Gaikowski's voice as the Zodiac when he called the police 4. Went to a drop in mental health centre for treatment that was located opposite the library that 2 of the victims used. 5. His nickname in the Good Times office was "Gaik", which is a word that appears in the ciphers. 6. Had military training in both combat medicine and codes and ciphers. 7. The office of Good Times magazine was two blocks away from the site where the taxi driver was murdered. 8. Bears a strong resemblance to the police sketch of Zodiac. 9. Was discounted by the cops only because he claimed to have been out of the country at the time of the murders 10. During his stay at a mental health facility, the Zodiac didn't write for 3 years 11. One of the letters sent to the cops was a Halloween card with a skeleton whose right hand held up 3 fingers with the number 14 written on it, and with only one eye having an iris. Next to the skeleton is a text saying: 'I feel it in my bones, you ache to know my name, and so I'll clue you in...'. Gaikowski's birthday is March 14th. He also had a fake eye.
Phenomenal video my guy. It was super easy to follow along, especially for someone like myself who never really dug to deep into the subject. I will say, I always kinda figured the Zodiac had a military background, firearms proficiency, crew cut, borderline obsession with time, distance, and direction all kinda give it away imo.
One thing that I think comes up once you consider the Zodiac could have been a cop is that he could have lied about being responsible for the first two attacks - he could have access to the information necessary to convincingly make the claims.
Subscribed! I’m only 13 mins in, this channel is scarily underrated 😢 This very well could have been a Netflix Doc. I hope you get the channel recognition you deserve 😊
I'd like to hear more about the case for the "gun-for-hire" theory about the Zodiac Killer. From my current knowledge of the case, it seems like two of the attacks have potential motives for which someone might have hired a hitman - the Lake Herman Road murders (the clash with the drug dealer) and Blue Rock Springs murder (the potential jealous husband or ex-husband). I have never heard of any possible motives in the other murders, though.
Absolutely fantastic work ...i have watched a few channels that covered the zodiac but this one is the best in my humble opinion ❤ wish you much success i subbed 😊
Hey. At 00:00:30, there is an interview with a man saying 'this guy is a pathological psycho killer.' Do you by any chance know where I can find the raw footage for that? Is it on youtube?
What documentary did I copy and paste? This was fully edited by me…I used news, archive, photos, police documents etc and some clips from other documentaries and added my own commentary but it certainly wasn’t copy and pasted 😅 I don’t know where you got that from 🤔
Top quality documentary, congratulations. The Zodiac Killer was an idiosyncratic serial killer, he killed most of his victims quickly, with a gun or knife, in public places. Had it not been for the letters and phone calls, maybe the authorities would never have connected the dots, the Zodiac cases could have easily passed as unconnected burglary. He wanted a challenge, but not to lose it. Those puzzles created a major distraction for investigators, the ones that have been deciphered had no useful clue, and the news at the time gave all the attention he craved for. It's very sad for those innocent people who lost their lives, and for their families too, but the Zodiac gambled with public attention and authorities and won.
I told you how to solve and the true answersl They arent ciphers ! Name is in Z340 and Z408, it was missed Dont listen. You will hear in 2024. ZODIAC WAS A KID THAT DIDNT KNOW HOW TO DECIPHER, THAT IS WHY THE LANGUAGE HE STUDIED IS THE CIPHERS. tHEY AENT. lANGUAGE TRANSLATIONS JUST SOLVED WTIH TRANSLATORL iF YOU DO NOT WANT TO DO THEM, SEND THEM TO A TRANSLATING COMPANY tHIS IS 100 PERCENT TRUE, and people who say yoru spelling is wrong - you should go to a mental hospital and let them solve it for you. Tell them how.
Im about 1/3 of the way through this and i just wanted to say, this is incredibly well produced. Writing, storytelling amd editing are amazing. This Jason guy (whom i assume is responsible for making this) has a very good voice and tone for the narration bits in between. Thank you to whoever is involved in making these. I just found this channel, but its an immediate "subscribe" for me. Gonna eatch your other stuff next. Appreciate you making this available for us to watch here.
Thanks so much, yeah it's just me making these at the minute no team or anything (that's the dream one day if it gets big enough). Really glad you enjoyed it, I'm trying to just make each one a little better, this was only the second of them, but made a few more since :)
Excellent job putting this all together. For the past few years I've suspected Post as the possible zodiac. I can't recall hearing about the postage stamp being his name before. That's incredible and makes me lean more into him being the zodiac. Maybe one day they can 100% confirm if it's him or not. There's also the theory of it being more than one person.
The Faraday family lived across the street from me in Petaluma, CA on Colwood Drive. David & his sister Debbie were older then me. They lived there briefly in the very early 60s. I still have a doll case his sister gave me. This tragedy changed our innocent childhoods forever. This is the best film I've seen on it.
Its no accident that there is a male victim in all the confirmed attacks and that the only survivors are male. Zodiac fantasizes about being the 'alpha male' and humiliating 'beta males' in front of their girlfriends. He wants the males to feel weak and helpless and for their girlfriends to see them as incapable of protecting them. By injuring the men but not killing them he wants them to feel like failures for the rest of their lives and Zodiac derives sadistic pleasure from that. Notice that he never actually sexually assaults the woman in the confirmed cases. Instead the focus is on proving that her bf is inadequate as a protector. In the Lake Berryessa case for instance the bf watches helplessly while hogtied as Zodiac stabs the girl to death and bf can't do anything about it.
Why did he have the cab driver drive an extra block beyond the stated destination and then kill him there? I would speculate this was precisely so that the murder would be witnessed by the teenage girls across the street, exactly as transpired.
That's possible, he also talked about how he views his victims as 'slaves' for the afterlife in one of his encrypted letters. It's possible he wanted them, and made sure he had them for himself.
My theory's always been that the first couple of murders were one guy, but the rest were unrelated copycats who were inspired by the original murders and cryptograms they saw in the news.
Forensic genealogy can solve this case. In 2023, there must be hundreds and hundreds of people related to the killer in the databases of 23 and Me, Ancestry and other DNA testing companies.
One reason he was found. His uncle (same middle and last name) edited Lady of Doom reissue 55. I went to ancestry because he was too old to be Z. That is where his name was found. Uncle also did murder pulps and westerns in 30s and 40s - Zodiac tried to make fiction reality. And he did a good job. Erik and the town of Hassem Holland found him thru his yearbook Ramona High 66. Apparently "not Zodiac" is too lazy to solve the cipher or translations and see his true name. its there and he IS crackproof.
Can you imagine if the latest cipher that was decided ended up saying “be sure to drink your Ovaltine!” ? I mean that would have been hilarious in a way as we all know the zodiac was a prankster in a way I enjoyed this documentary - I just can’t get enough of this case
I think the unsolved cipher is jibber jabber. Otherwise, with all of the agencies who have tried to solve it, it would have been solved. Bletchley broke the Enigma code. We have much more advanced technology today.
@@AskAlex1999 All were solved in about an hour by just translating the language presented with Google translator, that is all you need. And lines 5-20 of Z340 is the most telling of any of them. Except for full name in Z408 No its not jibber jabber or its not even killing talk. But he does talk about the RED DRAWER he kept killing stuff in, it will be towards the end. THEY WERE SOLVED. You can solve everyone too, all you do is drag and drop. Remember to get special char.
Dennis Land sure sounds like a viable suspect for at least the Lake Berrisa stabbing. Pretty impressive collection of short videos you've put together here
I guess you missed the part where he was with others when the phone call was made? And did you consider that, since this crime is connected to the other two, he would have had to have done those, too? And continued? You'd have to line him up to all the others...
Have you read Kobek's book? I like Paul Doerr for the lake berryessa murder. Although I personally think that's possibly the only murder Doerr committed. The Paul Stine murderer was someone different to lake berryessa 100% imo.
The e-fits are completely different. Plus the MO. Also, what the person wrote on the car, again that wasn't something I think Zodiac would have done. The person who did the lake berryessa murder used Zodiac to get away with murder, simply. Also if you read Kobek's book, Paul Doerr is a slam dunk for this one. He would have been in the area at the same time and was likely wearing a costume to another event on that day. Also had a sheath for a knife identically to the one pictured (there's a picture with him showing it off.) But then there's absolutely no circumstantial evidence that could link him to any of the other murders, certainly the Stine one. Also there's the clear evidence that after the first 4 letters, the further 32 letters were clearly written by another person. There's absolutely no way all these murders attributed to Zodiac were done by the same person. It's impossible.@@joinedthenavy
🤯 whoa. Very well done. This was recommended to me today. I decided to give it a shot. Amazing work. I'm definitely subscribing and looking into your other work.
Your videos are great, the pacing is what i enjoy the most, its not over explained rather time is taken to make the important details understood. Cheers.
I lived across the bay in Belvedere and was in middle school. Our school bus driver told us that if the tires went flat she was going to keep on driving, she wasn't going to pull over. Just in case...
The fact that he hasn't been caught to this day and the methodology that he's carried out these murders....I'd say he's right. There's no way this was to cover up one murder. The cyphers and how he toyed with the authorities were too much to say this was an average joe that committed one crime of passion and tried to cover it up with others
12:44 The journalist mentioned for the first time how the killer chased them through the city with a car and cornered them! 12:47 Then the surviving victim, Michael Mageu, testifies: "We were chased by that guy, he chased us out of the restaurant...etc. My question is this; why on earth didn't those poor kids drive the car towards the police, stop only in front of the policeman and the police station (or the sheriff), honking at the police? Or why didn't they go to any place full of tourists, since it was all happening on the 4th of July holiday? I can't understand their thought process and reaction to a threat to life when adrenaline "takes over" the body and brain. A typical fight or flight situation, but unfortunately, the girl was killed and Mike has to deal with that trauma for the rest of his life.
Honestly I would not be surprised if Zodiac was a very clever, very well-informed hoaxer (probably an inside man) who took credit for murders that he didn't actually have anything to do with.
22:10 -> "There is no hunting like the hunting of man, and those who have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter." - Ernest Hemingway
True but the majority of men who hunt armed men do not like it. It is a soldier. The minority that like it are sick psychopaths anyhow... Hemingway for all his literally worth was a middle class ponce who talked gobblygook communist crap
I'm new to your channel and just finished your UFO doc, which was so well done, and I've always been fascinated with Zodiac since I live in the Bay Area. You are a talented filmmaker, and look forward to this episode.
For me I believed Arthur Leigh Allen and another individual were both the killers. They worked together that way it would make collecting any sketch’s, evidence, circumstantial evidence and eye witness testimony impossible as it’d always change between two people. One would always disprove the other.
I’ve always thought the same thing, Allen is involved. He was at lake berryessa that day, wore a Zodiac watch, with the same name and symbol!!! Come on!! And we still don’t know how he came up on the cops radar. And I know Allen’s DNA doesn’t match the envelopes!! But that doesn’t mean anything to me. Also once they talked to Allen the murders stopped!
There was lots of people, even me when researching for this, that always had a suspicion of Hoffman but personally I don’t think so. There’s been lots of attention on him over the years, especially since the weird interview and never anything concrete :)
@@thatjasonhassettJust run a DNA test against the saliva on the Zodiac's stamp, like they did with Allen Leigh's, and that will prove his guilt or innocence more than any circumstantial evidence.
@@KC-Mitchpossible that the letter writer was a copy cat since Zodiac did not start with letters but, nonetheless, testing on stamps could pinpoint a killer.
That Brian boy is a strange cat.. They're in a very open area, but non chalant about a guy walking up in such a big space, then when a stranger dons a mask, eh thinks it's some sort of joke.. I gotta say, he's one real weirdo.
@@tgj42495 No one is "offering themeselves up to get stabbed".. But it is strange that in an open area, a person starts approaching you. That would get any normal person to be on alert.. This is called proxemics.. In an elevator if you are 4 feet away and moved only 1 foot closer that's strange.. But in an open area, people ususally go AWAY from others to maintain space.. When the killer donned a mask, he merely thought it was strange... Come on... you run or pull your gun or knife at that point and say GTF away.. Not just laugh at a person with a gun, he's says "he wanted to help him" and says he wasn't scared. Initially, they hear rustling and any normal man looks up cause they're protective and cautious, This joker says to the girl to look around while he continues to relax and report back when she says there's a man approaching he says to just ignore it.. Again, any normal man would first take their own assessment, but even after she reports a guy approaching he says "just ignore it". What a lame boy.....
Loads of videos about zodiac but this is one of the best I've come across very informative and well put together, never come across your channel before liked and subscribed 👍
No..I dont think so.. Zodiac didnt care ,Hartnell never saw him ,Zodiac didnt have a need to do such things.. He never even called his victims survicors to scare them.. It wasnt his thing..
I wonder if it's possible that the Zodiac could be James DeAngelo (the Golden State Killer) who was caught years after his crimes. Perhaps he didn't quit, he just moved and changed his modus operandi?
Well done my only issue is that you like most investigators are only looking into finding one perpetrator. Thats an assumption, that in this case in particular, that needs to be looked at again. Also its a good idea to look at the police and motives they would have to let us think its only one master criminal and not several different people all made to appear as one perpetrator.
Ran through a AI vocal isolator to remove background noise and then tried to clean it best I could so it wasn’t too tinny, nowhere near perfect but I’m still learning hehe
@@thatjasonhassett you’re doing better than some of the people I’ve worked with in television, audio mixing. Granted, they didn’t have such robust AI options, but I am seriously impressed. I actually thought you had hired voice actors to read news quotes; that’s how good some of them sounded.
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This is insanely well done, hat's off to you amigo. Appreciate you putting the time in on this.
Thanks so much 🙏
It's really well done. You do it yourself? I've got my 👁 on u.
Did he though? Did he make this? Or did he just pile together a bunch of clips? Or did he take a doc from a certain country and just post it on the internet?? 🙃
@@stevenb427 I dunno. It's the same thing I plan to do. So.
@@stevenb427that’s doing something. DUH.
Wrt the Zodiac having experience as a police officer, while that is possible (and we saw such a case with the Golden State Killer), it has also been noted in criminal profiling that it's not uncommon for serial killers to be obsessed with law enforcement, even if they can't make it into actual law enforcement positions. They may even seek out employment as something like a security guard or spend time at places that are known hang-outs for law enforcement.
You mean like….. a park ranger?
Edmund Kemper is case in point.
to me it feels aswell that he was just interested in it, as with the coding, if he has a hobby/interest in something, he goes into the subject verrry deep, this would also apply to police work, or maybe other interests.
His uncle was a cop. The uncle wrote murder pulps and that is how he was found (one way) his pulps were matching to the murders. The caliber of bullet cops use in this particular state matches up to some of the murders. The uncle lived in Riverside during the killling years, uncle and Zodiac left SF at the same time. I thought it was this uncle at first who was Zodiac, but then at the time of research, he was too old. I went to ancestry found the family tree and found one guy in the family that was the correct age to be Zodiac. Yes - that was a match to the name in Z340 and Z408 and the name of the suspect my partner found. The uncle was right on front page of Lady of Doom, a reissue. That is how I got the uncles name. Weirdly, that issue was the one circulated by Zodiacers.
Lets take a look at some facts.
5 minutes before the Darlene murder a cop called Richard is in the area, he radios station saying nobody is around.
Right before the attack Mike believes a cop pulls up behind their car, Darlene exclaims 'It's Richard!'. A man (believed by Darlene to be Richard, by Mike to be a cop) opens the door a torch shining in the victims faces. Mike reaches for his wallet believing it to be a cop. The attack begins.
Right after the attack a cop called Richard is on the scene. Admits to moving the bodies.
Idk about you guys, but I think it was probably this guy Richard - who claims not to know Darlene, despite people believing he attended her party before.. not to mention he says he knows where she worked? How can he know that if he doesnt know her?
Hes the guy. Simple.
I’ve always thought the zodiac killer was a cop,park ranger, someone of authority ….that’s why so many people pulled over and never tried to flee, why he didn’t get caught surely… someone must remember someone who was odd or always wanted to be involved with these cases when he was back in the force! Sounds like he would’ve had a personality a lot like bundy… or maybe even the golden state killer! Someone who blends in are always the hardest serial killers to catch.
I think it was law inforcement, because he seemed to be somewhat forensically aware, even though DNA didn't exist, I think they only ever got a partial print.
If this happened today, we would have him!!❤️
At 34:40, listen to how he hesitates before saying "murder". You can hear him begin to say "homicide" but then stop and correct himself.
Could be an attempt to hide his profession 🤷♂️
@@AskAlex1999just like o j and robert blake. Keep dreaming
I always wondered if it was the Golden State Killer.
28:27 Cecilia got stabbed many more times and was stabbed in her chest, vital organs and lungs while he was stabbed in the small of his back and in less lethal areas with not vital organs or lungs being hit. That is why she probably had less energy and didn’t end up making it. At the end of the day, no matter how much will you have to live, you might not make it. It depends on the injuries and how long it takes for you to get help. They waited for over an hour or two before getting medical attention. I don’t think her passing away. Had anything to do with her will to live. Saying “she gave up” or “had no will to live” is disrespectful.
People say so much poppycock to fill air time in true crime 😞
Quite agree to imply lack of fighting spirit a bit insulting. the poor girl had a knife buried up to the hilt in her chest amongst others ffs
The reporter never implied this at all. Just because he suggested that Brian made it because he had strong faith and will to live, doesnt mean he was suggesting that Cecilia didnt. He was talking about Brian, he was interviewing Brian, so he was telling his story. He wasnt being disrespectful, im sure he knew full well that Cecilia's injuries were fatal.
I got the same impression, I didn't like that line
@@paulinegallagher7821 who’s talking about the reporter? The survivor himself said that Cecilia had “given up” and that “she have no will to live”.
I've seen a ton of zodiac related videos over the years, and this is quickly becoming one of my new favorite ones. Very well done!
Amazing compliment, thanks so much!
@@thatjasonhassett You're welcome! Im going to look forward to future uploads
Who’s your favourite suspect?
@JMEcooper i like the idea of it being a total unknown we have no idea about and one day the case gets solved and everyone goes who is this guy?
@@darlordvader that what I think happens if we ever do find out. I have a strange ambivalent feeling about it where I love the mystery and spookiness of it but I’m gagging to know who it was. I think the guy ended up in jail for another different crime which is why it went silent or at least that’s what I like to think.
That guy that survived the stabbing with that girl is an extremely articulate man. Very smart guy, with a very detailed memory.
I've always thought so too.
He later became a lawyer. He has a brief cameo in the 2007 Zodiac movie.
Typical West Coast Lib. Thought he could talk down a psycho killer
How badly was he injured ?
Red flags and too self grandiose imo
Really excited to share this True Crime documentary with you, it was a passion of love, and given how new this channel is I don't expect it to get crazy views, so I'm looking forward to seeing if everyone who does watch it, enjoys watching it as much as I loved making it.
Learned a lot making this, 200+ hours of editing and I still think I've got so much to learn. Enjoy and I'll see you guys on the next one
Great job Jason , doing what 250 others are up loading.
It's great someone has thought of the true crime theme to focus on especially serial killers what gave you the inspiration ? Man it's all been repeated over and over it's old 2nd hand news fuck me it's not original .
It’s good.. but literally why do we still need to look for this guy. like sure maybe it’s for closure but honestly maybe it’s better we give this up.
I've always thought the way to get these people justice of course now it's too late is to find out where he was for the 3 years that he didn't write any letters. The only possible form of Justice they will ever get now on this planet as if he's identified. And I can tell you positively absolutely 100% the man they keep claiming is the zodiac is not and the police don't believe it either.
@@intergalacticolive why?
Well done mate, keep the work coming
This has an incredible amount of editing work put into it, as well as researching multiple news stations and documentaries. Great work!
It sure does. Gives me a great idea.
I really like what looks like, the "decode" effect where some of the words transition from what look like zodiac cipher homophones. I prefer runes myself.
i’m serious man this doc is amazing! if you continue making long-form docs like this your fan base will grow exponentially and i have no doubt about that. this was incredible, great work. now i have to dive into all of you other videos.
Thanks so much, this is only the second really long form documentary video, I decided a couple months back to switch to one video per month and the only goal is to make each one better than the last, aiming for 45-90 minute documentary style videos :)
The only goal is to try make each one better than the last, hopefully if I do that the views will come! Thanks again so much for the comment, really appreciate it :D
@@thatjasonhassett Please PLEASE continue with this long form content, you seriously have talent. I really enjoyed this one
@@thatjasonhassettwhere can we find the sources?
@@Elle-elle-elle
Including the sources would probably require respecting the work others made...and acknowledging possible copyright.
I guess Hbomberguy didn't teach content creators enough...
As so many others, I have been following this case for a long time, seen most of the documentaries, done some own research (absolutely not professionally). I have to say that you really package this superbly! Great work!
Like most old people, I've followed the Zodiac story for over fifty years. This well constructed documentary was more informative than any others I've seen. Both informative and entertaining.
Kudos.
have you seen the movie ??
It is pretty well done. I'm jealous.
Earl Van Best was the zodiac killer
@@the_quaint_gypsy Wait, are you saying Earl was the BEST Zodiac Killer? Like from the Team of Zodiacs?
@@EdEdwardsCiphers No, there is a documentary where a offspring of a person named Earl Van Best says their father was the zodiac killer. They show his name in the cyphers and such.
Really love your channel so far. Can't wait to see what the future brings!
Hey Jason! Loved your UFO doco so super excited to get into this. Your channel is criminally under rated right now so I think big numbers on the horizon.
Thanks so much! Really appreciate that! 😁
Ufo? Where? Love anything ufo related.
I've sometimes suspected with this one -- like a couple of others -- that there was one original guy and then another inspired by him through media reports, and the two of them got conflated.
Many actually think it was group of 3 in a cult. That why fingerprints do not match, descriptions do match, some have alibis blah blah blah so who knows
So basically their answer is they still don't know who he is (or who he was).
All
what if he didn't exist, maybe it was a cop trolling
@@tough3600“cop trolling“ is redundant.
Thanks for saving me an hour and a half.
to me it seems more of a game, the killings or attempted ones as a cause to the game. coding is a hobby, how much of a mind game can you play, as he stated: killing humans is the most fun, as its the most dangerous animal. from "the big game". also why no additional kilings, why no additional letters or so, because to me, the game was over for him. also he stated: "im not sick i am insane, but that will not stop the game"
An impressive piece of work! Amazingly captivating and surprisingly refreshing style in how the acts, events, incidents with their established facts were so beautifully laid out with all their particular points of interest and/or contention, inconsistencies, etc. weaved in such a unique way that it was really effortless to follow along. Even without any prior knowledge about anything more than the mere knowledge that there once roamed a serial that called himself The Zodiac Killer and that he taunted the police, spreading unimaginable fear in the communities he was active in.
I have to say that the pace/tempo that the entire video keeps is genuinely a feat that elevates the experience. As the retelling or describing of the actual killing thankfully wasn’t tried to be made more shocking, scary, horrific or disturbing than it already was. Thus contributing to an easier, much info intake.
This is one of those super rare finds that one does but once in a while 🙌👊👌🤓
I thank you for sharing your amazing work, appreciate it! I do sincerely hope and look forward to seeing more of your skilled content production..well not the actual production per se but the product or that..production..
Cheers ✌️🖖!
Wow! Thanks so much 😅🙏🙏🙏
Brian Hartnell didn’t call her by name, or GF. He said the “the girl” did anyone else notice that or think that was strange?? Even back in the 60’s seems weird!!
Absolutely!!
If I remember correctly, he had a gf at the time…
Not weird at all, it's like an emotional distancing
Also asking the killer to kill him first...and yet he survived.
@@ChessJourneyman what's wrong that? Bryan played dead, but what is clear is that the attacker focused more on the female
thank the good lord you actually put the names of the movies you put in your video , SO many youtubers show clips of good movies and no names , so i go in circles trying to find it , thank you !
Great job! I love these true crime documentaries. I’ve seen all of them. Great job intermingling the original investigation reports with the most current. You kept the facts straight. I don’t think it was Arthur L. Allen. Who it was we will probably never know. What a sad and disturbing case.
Thanks a lot! Yeah I wanted to make something, like the previous UFO doc, that is more for someone new to the case and give the evidence, the theories and then sprinkle in my opinion 😁
I also enjoyed this docu and agree - the zodiac and Jack the Ripper cases will never be solved
it was a cop that tried to frame allen and others
I always thought it could've been a team of two.... one man committing the actual murders, and the other writing the letters. That would explain why everything pointed to Allen but yet the handwriting couldn't be linked to him. It could be that the man writing the letters committed the taxi cab driver murder. But then you have the inconsistencies that Graysmith states in his book, so who knows... maybe Allen had nothing to do with it, but there was a hell of a lot of coincidences. The watch itself having the zodiac logo was a hell of a "coincidence."
I can’t believe you only have 11k subs. This was a fantastically high quality documentary. Incredibly polished. Very interesting documentary in it if itself. Great story boarding. Just so good. Keep up the fantastic work. You rock and will be huge one day. Even if you don’t somehow blow up one day, just know that your production quality is nothing short of amazing. Thank you!
It literally is ALL copied as in the work of others!!! Are you that dense?
I must have been deeply insane and scary that there were so many serial killers from the 1960s-1980s/1990s.
I think about that a lot actually. It's funny that you're the first person to write what I've thought about for a while. I thought it was only me. I'll end up writing that somewhere I"m sure.
Could be as many today, they just work differently.
@@nihlify Let's hope we never find out. Or wait, let's hope we do?
We didnt know much about it at the time, we didnt know much of what happened in other parts of the country untill cnn.
@@johnfontenot7861 Damn CNN. They ruined it for everybody.
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that’s the killer
richard allen hoffman
police officer and the zodiac killer
Yes, I think it's his grandson who came out recently on TikTok saying all the reasons why he's sure it's Richard Hoffman, his grandfather. Many people speculated that a police officer was the killer given the circumstances surrounding the killings.
I thought his behaviour in that interview was very suspicious definitely lying about not knowing her
His prints have been checked. Wasn’t him. Jason has a short talking about this.
My mother told me a story about Son of Sam. She was driving at night with a friend, and her car broke down on the side of the road. A guy stopped and offered to help, and said he just needed to get one tool. He kept trying to get my mother or her friend to join him in his car to go just down the road. This was while Son of Sam was doing his killing.
Was it in NYC? Son of Sam attacked ONLY in NYC.
@@joinjen3854
Yes it was there.
Son of Sam didn't work like that. He shot from a distance and never engaged in conversation.
Some of the Zodiac murders were committed at Blue Rock Springs State Park. It is so eerie to hear the name of that place-I went there so often as a kid. When visiting my grandparents ( both sets) in Vallejo, it was a place they would take my sister and I. I always found it a strange place. It was always nearly empty. Peacocks roamed the grounds with their creepy cries that would come out of nowhere.
LOL!!!!!
same here, spent many days at Blue Rock. even went up to the rock face above it a couple times. they had that aviary there too
"Blue rock springs state park" damn thats a mouthful
I'm so hooked on the Zodiac killer. I hope they find out who he was, if not for family members of the victims.
Great video!!
Yeah wild case, i wonder if they ever will! Glad you enjoyed it, you might like the new dating game killer one if you liked this, similar video but even crazier story :)
@thatjasonhassett Yes it is. I hope they find out who it was. But I don't think they will. He'll be unknown forever , like Jack the ripper!
Again, thank you for the video! It wss really good.
Your video just popped up in my feed, watched, liked and subscribed!
Definitely one of the best videos that I've seen regarding the Zodiac Killer, excellent work, well done!
Keep 'em coming! 👍🏻👌🏼👏🏻
So your theory is that a hired gun decided to bring attention to his crimes by writing letters to the police in an effort to *distract* people from the killings? That doesn't make any sense to me.
A hired killer has a link to each murder through the person who hired them, while a serial killer does not. If the police think you're a serial killer (I think this is how the theory goes), they're not going to be looking at people in the victim's circle. The way they approach the case will work to a hired killer's advantage.
@@dsolosan That's some 400 level IQ stuff there. That's a lot of hoops to go through. I often wonder, if some choose to believe in particular theories because the truth of reality breaks their brains. Perhaps. Who knows?
@@EdEdwardsCiphers You've got to start searching somewhere because you never have enough resources to search everywhere. You have to deal with the evidence you have. I think some people choose to believe in particular theories because they've followed a path, and don't want to admit they were wrong, wasted their time, etc.
@@dsolosan lol, that's not true at all. Even if they THINK it's a serial killer they are still going to look at people in the victim's circle...
@@dsolosan I believe that applies to me as well. I've invested my resources, as meager as they are, in researching an actual serial killer. Who actually murdered couples. On actual lovers lanes. Who stayed a block from where Paul Stine was murdered. And is considered by many in law enforcement to both have been the Zodiac Killer. And to have killed many others.
Is that Bubbles from trailer park boys??? Hosting the show.
Something I noticed in the Zodiac's writing. I think he purposely spells each letter and each number different. The only pattern I see is the Zodiac did his best not to leave a pattern in his writings.
Yeah he's either disabled or he's doing it on purpose. If it's on purpose it's either clever (not genius, just clever) or he heard of someone else doing it. Anyone can make a cipher that is extremely difficult to crack, just don't be consistent
@@no_peace
No doubt he carefully planned everything and anything he did.
@@no_peace He never even made one single cipher. Hes just clever, millions believe him and they should not have, that is why those so called ciphers werent solved in over 50 years.
He also made mistakes. They solved one of the few I cracked cyphers a few years back. The reason it went unsolved is that it had errors, making it that much harder to decipher.
@@Super.Whimsy
It could be errors. I think the ciphers weren’t meant to be solved. Just something to keep the police business and a waste of resources.
The guy who was the Pedro in his blackout interview he's stops him self from chucking buy stopping and dropping his head with a smile on his face half way through a sentence trying to gather his front but can't and lifts his head with upturned side of his mouth,, guilty
Just read his subconscious body tells, they never lie
Great job on this project! A lot of good information and it's well put together I appreciate your effort.
I watched the film Zodiac yesterday, not initially realising it was based on true events. While interesting, I have found this documentary to be much more interesting. A very good presentation.
Amazing compliment thanks so much!
You must be young. You arebright. This was so much better than the film which is boring compared to this.
Once again, Excellent work. I remember the Zodiac Killer on the news, but it was light years away from us.
Thanks so much! Glad he wasn’t close, I’d possibly be down a subscriber 😅 Really interesting case! 🔥
@@thatjasonhassett No kidding Jason you can hear his life story and other details from me. FL Tak force, SFpd task force, FBI in both DOJ
Military man operating as a gun for hire under the guise of a serial killer… that’s the *exact* thesis of Dave McGown’s Programmed to Kill. The seminal work on this topic.
Born/raised in Vallejo in the 70s (~ 90s). I lived blocks from the Ace Hardware store on Amador &
Tennessee and walked by it every day to junior high (on Amador). I Even shopped there alone as a teen while ALA worked there (I cannot say I remember him at the store). My junior high was just 3 blocks from his home and 2 from the pancake house. We were allowed to leave school for lunch and would walk by his street to get to the nearby 7/11 and “Lileds” candy store. We were largely unaware he was a suspect, we didn’t have the internet back then. One thing I’d like to point out, that no one has, is that in that era, in Vallejo at least, people used a bottle of clear glue to glue stamps on. It was a clear plastic bottle with a red (?) large rubber tip meant specifically for that. They also used it at the post office. I remember it well because as a kid, I always wanted to put the stamps for my mom using that glue and we were always at the post office sending mail. I don’t know when people stopped using it. But anyhow, the fixation with the stamps plus the fact that ALA didn’t like to lick stamps, I would think he likely would have used the same glue. It was quite common! I may be wrong but I’ve heard that the DNA taken from the stamps is from the top
of the stamp, not the bottom.
Not to mention using ordinary tap water. My mom had a gizmo that was basically a plastic tube with a sponge on one end. You filled it with water and used it to seal envelopes and affix stamps.
Allen could have written the letters (he seemed to like the attention) and the killer, was other guy. That makes the most sense to me. Cause the sketch wasn't similar to Allen in any way. That explains a lot. That's also why the DNA doesn't match.
And maybe, just maybe, the killer was Richard Gaikowski:
1. Edited a magazine called "Good Times". Zodiac makes reference to "good times" in his ciphers.
2. Had a history of mental health problems, including violent outbursts.
3. The dispatcher recognised Gaikowski's voice as the Zodiac when he called the police
4. Went to a drop in mental health centre for treatment that was located opposite the library that 2 of the victims used.
5. His nickname in the Good Times office was "Gaik", which is a word that appears in the ciphers.
6. Had military training in both combat medicine and codes and ciphers.
7. The office of Good Times magazine was two blocks away from the site where the taxi driver was murdered.
8. Bears a strong resemblance to the police sketch of Zodiac.
9. Was discounted by the cops only because he claimed to have been out of the country at the time of the murders
10. During his stay at a mental health facility, the Zodiac didn't write for 3 years
11. One of the letters sent to the cops was a Halloween card with a skeleton whose right hand held up 3 fingers with the number 14 written on it, and with only one eye having an iris. Next to the skeleton is a text saying: 'I feel it in my bones, you ache to know my name, and so I'll clue you in...'. Gaikowski's birthday is March 14th. He also had a fake eye.
Phenomenal video my guy. It was super easy to follow along, especially for someone like myself who never really dug to deep into the subject. I will say, I always kinda figured the Zodiac had a military background, firearms proficiency, crew cut, borderline obsession with time, distance, and direction all kinda give it away imo.
The military has little to no effect on weapons proficiency.
@@joecentral-o9984I'm glad u told that clown off
One thing that I think comes up once you consider the Zodiac could have been a cop is that he could have lied about being responsible for the first two attacks - he could have access to the information necessary to convincingly make the claims.
Subscribed! I’m only 13 mins in, this channel is scarily underrated 😢 This very well could have been a Netflix Doc. I hope you get the channel recognition you deserve 😊
Thanks so much Courtney! Hopefully it gets there, not quite Netflix level yet but thats the goal over the next 2-3 years :D
I think Zodiac will not be solved at this point unless someone finds evidence while inventorying the belongings of a deceased family member.
Man production quality is amazing
next to jack the ripper, this is the most known unsolved crime ever
Great video with amazing editing. The 200+ hours were well spent. Amaxing production
Thanks so much 🙏🙏🙏😁
I'd like to hear more about the case for the "gun-for-hire" theory about the Zodiac Killer.
From my current knowledge of the case, it seems like two of the attacks have potential motives for which someone might have hired a hitman - the Lake Herman Road murders (the clash with the drug dealer) and Blue Rock Springs murder (the potential jealous husband or ex-husband). I have never heard of any possible motives in the other murders, though.
Yeah thats a good point dudde
I always thought the taxi driver murder was so random and very different from the rest, so the gun for hire theory would make sense
Imagining being in Cecilia's position, out at the lake in broad daylight and seeing a man in that hood stepping out of the trees. >Shudder
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Absolutely fantastic work ...i have watched a few channels that covered the zodiac but this one is the best in my humble opinion ❤ wish you much success i subbed 😊
Keep making this classic crimes documentary. I Love it 👍💜
Hey. At 00:00:30, there is an interview with a man saying 'this guy is a pathological psycho killer.' Do you by any chance know where I can find the raw footage for that? Is it on youtube?
The zodiac killer sketch looks like a certain Jason Hassett guy 🤣
Agreed!
nah u look like bubbles @@thatjasonhassett
Also looks like 90 percent of the male population in 1968 and 1969
I thought for sure this channel had millions of subscribers either way keep up the amazing work and it will
Thanks so much!
Not very hard you simply copy and paste a documentary and take credit for it. 😮
What documentary did I copy and paste? This was fully edited by me…I used news, archive, photos, police documents etc and some clips from other documentaries and added my own commentary but it certainly wasn’t copy and pasted 😅 I don’t know where you got that from 🤔
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I'd love to know who the little kid was that said "No, I'm not. I'm not afraid of that old killer."
Top quality documentary, congratulations. The Zodiac Killer was an idiosyncratic serial killer, he killed most of his victims quickly, with a gun or knife, in public places. Had it not been for the letters and phone calls, maybe the authorities would never have connected the dots, the Zodiac cases could have easily passed as unconnected burglary. He wanted a challenge, but not to lose it.
Those puzzles created a major distraction for investigators, the ones that have been deciphered had no useful clue, and the news at the time gave all the attention he craved for. It's very sad for those innocent people who lost their lives, and for their families too, but the Zodiac gambled with public attention and authorities and won.
I told you how to solve and the true answersl They arent ciphers ! Name is in Z340 and Z408, it was missed Dont listen. You will hear in 2024. ZODIAC WAS A KID THAT DIDNT KNOW HOW TO DECIPHER, THAT IS WHY THE LANGUAGE HE STUDIED IS THE CIPHERS. tHEY AENT. lANGUAGE TRANSLATIONS JUST SOLVED WTIH TRANSLATORL iF YOU DO NOT WANT TO DO THEM, SEND THEM TO A TRANSLATING COMPANY tHIS IS 100 PERCENT TRUE, and people who say yoru spelling is wrong - you should go to a mental hospital and let them solve it for you. Tell them how.
Im about 1/3 of the way through this and i just wanted to say, this is incredibly well produced. Writing, storytelling amd editing are amazing. This Jason guy (whom i assume is responsible for making this) has a very good voice and tone for the narration bits in between. Thank you to whoever is involved in making these. I just found this channel, but its an immediate "subscribe" for me. Gonna eatch your other stuff next. Appreciate you making this available for us to watch here.
Thanks so much, yeah it's just me making these at the minute no team or anything (that's the dream one day if it gets big enough). Really glad you enjoyed it, I'm trying to just make each one a little better, this was only the second of them, but made a few more since :)
@thatjasonhassett that's fucking wild. I'm beyond impressed! Looking forward to your channel blowing up
Excellent job putting this all together. For the past few years I've suspected Post as the possible zodiac. I can't recall hearing about the postage stamp being his name before. That's incredible and makes me lean more into him being the zodiac. Maybe one day they can 100% confirm if it's him or not. There's also the theory of it being more than one person.
I thought for a while that it had been solved and it was Post? Last year I think
The Faraday family lived across the street from me in Petaluma, CA on Colwood Drive. David & his sister Debbie were older then me. They lived there briefly in the very early 60s. I still have a doll case his sister gave me. This tragedy changed our innocent childhoods forever. This is the best film I've seen on it.
Its no accident that there is a male victim in all the confirmed attacks and that the only survivors are male. Zodiac fantasizes about being the 'alpha male' and humiliating 'beta males' in front of their girlfriends. He wants the males to feel weak and helpless and for their girlfriends to see them as incapable of protecting them. By injuring the men but not killing them he wants them to feel like failures for the rest of their lives and Zodiac derives sadistic pleasure from that. Notice that he never actually sexually assaults the woman in the confirmed cases. Instead the focus is on proving that her bf is inadequate as a protector. In the Lake Berryessa case for instance the bf watches helplessly while hogtied as Zodiac stabs the girl to death and bf can't do anything about it.
Why did he have the cab driver drive an extra block beyond the stated destination and then kill him there? I would speculate this was precisely so that the murder would be witnessed by the teenage girls across the street, exactly as transpired.
That's possible, he also talked about how he views his victims as 'slaves' for the afterlife in one of his encrypted letters. It's possible he wanted them, and made sure he had them for himself.
Was that a thing back then???
@branlex1315 I don't know? Women's rights where did start to get big in like the 60s and 70s.
10:59 😂
Great writing, editing. Subbed! 🍻
Just finding your channel and I really appreciate your work here please keep it up! Subscribed:-)
Thanks so much, plan is monthly videos on different subjects, want to try new ways to make each video better than the last :D
My theory's always been that the first couple of murders were one guy, but the rest were unrelated copycats who were inspired by the original murders and cryptograms they saw in the news.
That would explain a lot on how they could never find him. This has to be it.
I'm leaning towards this solution as well.
Sources should be disclosed.
Forensic genealogy can solve this case. In 2023, there must be hundreds and hundreds of people related to the killer in the databases of 23 and Me, Ancestry and other DNA testing companies.
One reason he was found. His uncle (same middle and last name) edited Lady of Doom reissue 55. I went to ancestry because he was too old to be Z. That is where his name was found. Uncle also did murder pulps and westerns in 30s and 40s - Zodiac tried to make fiction reality. And he did a good job. Erik and the town of Hassem Holland found him thru his yearbook Ramona High 66. Apparently "not Zodiac" is too lazy to solve the cipher or translations and see his true name. its there and he IS crackproof.
You killed it with this documentary. Best I've seen on the case.
Well done sir on a detailed and slightly different take on this well covered subject. You added new life into a fascinating unsolved true crime case
Can you imagine if the latest cipher that was decided ended up saying “be sure to drink your Ovaltine!” ? I mean that would have been hilarious in a way as we all know the zodiac was a prankster in a way
I enjoyed this documentary - I just can’t get enough of this case
Glad you enjoyed it :D
I think the unsolved cipher is jibber jabber. Otherwise, with all of the agencies who have tried to solve it, it would have been solved. Bletchley broke the Enigma code. We have much more advanced technology today.
“It’s just a prank bro” - The Zodiac 😂😂
@@AskAlex1999 All were solved in about an hour by just translating the language presented with Google translator, that is all you need. And lines 5-20 of Z340 is the most telling of any of them. Except for full name in Z408 No its not jibber jabber or its not even killing talk. But he does talk about the RED DRAWER he kept killing stuff in, it will be towards the end. THEY WERE SOLVED. You can solve everyone too, all you do is drag and drop. Remember to get special char.
Then you need to see whats in Z340 lines 5-20.
Dennis Land sure sounds like a viable suspect for at least the Lake Berrisa stabbing. Pretty impressive collection of short videos you've put together here
I guess you missed the part where he was with others when the phone call was made? And did you consider that, since this crime is connected to the other two, he would have had to have done those, too? And continued? You'd have to line him up to all the others...
Have you read Kobek's book? I like Paul Doerr for the lake berryessa murder. Although I personally think that's possibly the only murder Doerr committed. The Paul Stine murderer was someone different to lake berryessa 100% imo.
@@grobocop2213 curious why paul stine murderer and lake berryessa would have to be different? just based on the methods?
The e-fits are completely different. Plus the MO. Also, what the person wrote on the car, again that wasn't something I think Zodiac would have done. The person who did the lake berryessa murder used Zodiac to get away with murder, simply. Also if you read Kobek's book, Paul Doerr is a slam dunk for this one. He would have been in the area at the same time and was likely wearing a costume to another event on that day. Also had a sheath for a knife identically to the one pictured (there's a picture with him showing it off.) But then there's absolutely no circumstantial evidence that could link him to any of the other murders, certainly the Stine one. Also there's the clear evidence that after the first 4 letters, the further 32 letters were clearly written by another person. There's absolutely no way all these murders attributed to Zodiac were done by the same person. It's impossible.@@joinedthenavy
hmm. now im thinking zodiac is paul doerr and a few of his buddies from the militia group he had. @@grobocop2213
Great documentary. I’ve seen some of these clips before but not all. I’ve always been fascinated by this case.
Thanks so much!
So which part of this video deciphered the zodiac killer
Great video, very creepy, and sickening, but very interesting too. Thank you for creating it.
Congratulations man, great work. Even though our style is different as a true crime channel, it was very enjoyable to watch you.
Thanks so much, I haven't seen your channel but just Subscribed, looking forward to checking out some videos!
🤯 whoa. Very well done. This was recommended to me today. I decided to give it a shot. Amazing work. I'm definitely subscribing and looking into your other work.
Thanks so much, next doc is in about 2 weeks 🙏
@@thatjasonhassett I'll be waiting patiently!
Your videos are great, the pacing is what i enjoy the most, its not over explained rather time is taken to make the important details understood. Cheers.
Thanks so much! Glad you enjoyed it! :D
Thank you for posting this and good luck!
Thanks so much!
I lived across the bay in Belvedere and was in middle school. Our school bus driver told us that if the tires went flat she was going to keep on driving, she wasn't going to pull over. Just in case...
The sketch of the Zodiac Killer looks a lot like the sketch of DB Cooper...
You killed it dude! 💥💣💢🔥🧯 Great Work! Thanks!!!
I always wondered if the Zodiac killer killed a few times just to hide one murder ..
Arthur lived about 25 yards away from the house of pancakes where Darlene Ferrin worked , maybe he was jealous for her ? Many possibilities I guess ?
That's literally the stupidest thing I will hear today
@@Tommytakanawa ok great perfect
The fact that he hasn't been caught to this day and the methodology that he's carried out these murders....I'd say he's right. There's no way this was to cover up one murder. The cyphers and how he toyed with the authorities were too much to say this was an average joe that committed one crime of passion and tried to cover it up with others
12:44 The journalist mentioned for the first time how the killer chased them through the city with a car and cornered them!
12:47 Then the surviving victim, Michael Mageu, testifies: "We were chased by that guy, he chased us out of the restaurant...etc.
My question is this; why on earth didn't those poor kids drive the car towards the police, stop only in front of the policeman and the police station (or the sheriff), honking at the police? Or why didn't they go to any place full of tourists, since it was all happening on the 4th of July holiday? I can't understand their thought process and reaction to a threat to life when adrenaline "takes over" the body and brain.
A typical fight or flight situation, but unfortunately, the girl was killed and Mike has to deal with that trauma for the rest of his life.
Honestly I would not be surprised if Zodiac was a very clever, very well-informed hoaxer (probably an inside man) who took credit for murders that he didn't actually have anything to do with.
Your editing really paid off. You have a great talent. Subbed 🫡
22:10 ->
"There is no hunting like the hunting of man, and those who have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter."
- Ernest Hemingway
True but the majority of men who hunt armed men do not like it. It is a soldier. The minority that like it are sick psychopaths anyhow... Hemingway for all his literally worth was a middle class ponce who talked gobblygook communist crap
Very well done. Great editing
I'm new to your channel and just finished your UFO doc, which was so well done, and I've always been fascinated with Zodiac since I live in the Bay Area. You are a talented filmmaker, and look forward to this episode.
Thanks so much, really appreciate that,, next doc is out Wednesday and it's about AI :)
@@thatjasonhassett Oh cool ! That's a subject I am currently thinking about.
This is the finest doc on the Zodiac killer ever conceived.
Cheers! Huge compliment!
For me I believed Arthur Leigh Allen and another individual were both the killers. They worked together that way it would make collecting any sketch’s, evidence, circumstantial evidence and eye witness testimony impossible as it’d always change between two people. One would always disprove the other.
I’ve always thought the same thing, Allen is involved. He was at lake berryessa that day, wore a Zodiac watch, with the same name and symbol!!! Come on!! And we still don’t know how he came up on the cops radar. And I know Allen’s DNA doesn’t match the envelopes!! But that doesn’t mean anything to me. Also once they talked to Allen the murders stopped!
I'd be too afraid of the other guy turning on me. Though there have been a few examples of detail killer pairs
It's was him and Don Cheney
@@MrJsv650 was thinking the same thing
@@Trev-jz6ywthere's no Zodiac DNA
First time watching your stuff new subbed!!
Wonderful work on this documentary. I appreciate your efforts and detail.
Thanks so much! Glad you enjoyed it!
This is mostly from the 2007 documentary "this is the zodiac speaking" excellent documentary with the real police officers and victims.
26:55 Why does he keep referring to Celia as "the girl"? That's creepy in itself.
I had the exact same thought when creating this!
Yeah… I felt the same!
Just a turn of phrase
@@thatjasonhassettis this the full video or is there something else connected to this I was just curious
This is the full video :) @@paulcarpenter7844
Who’s here after J Foys info about the zodiac being his grandpa?
There was lots of people, even me when researching for this, that always had a suspicion of Hoffman but personally I don’t think so. There’s been lots of attention on him over the years, especially since the weird interview and never anything concrete :)
@@thatjasonhassettJust run a DNA test against the saliva on the Zodiac's stamp, like they did with Allen Leigh's, and that will prove his guilt or innocence more than any circumstantial evidence.
@@KC-Mitchpossible that the letter writer was a copy cat since Zodiac did not start with letters but, nonetheless, testing on stamps could pinpoint a killer.
@@KC-Mitchthat's just what I was thinking old cases have been solved using DNA
How do you know it's Zodiacs DNA?
That Brian boy is a strange cat.. They're in a very open area, but non chalant about a guy walking up in such a big space, then when a stranger dons a mask, eh thinks it's some sort of joke.. I gotta say, he's one real weirdo.
If you’re trying to imply he might have offered himself up to get stabbed tf up and know who did it is silly.
@@tgj42495 No one is "offering themeselves up to get stabbed".. But it is strange that in an open area, a person starts approaching you. That would get any normal person to be on alert.. This is called proxemics.. In an elevator if you are 4 feet away and moved only 1 foot closer that's strange.. But in an open area, people ususally go AWAY from others to maintain space.. When the killer donned a mask, he merely thought it was strange... Come on... you run or pull your gun or knife at that point and say GTF away.. Not just laugh at a person with a gun, he's says "he wanted to help him" and says he wasn't scared. Initially, they hear rustling and any normal man looks up cause they're protective and cautious, This joker says to the girl to look around while he continues to relax and report back when she says there's a man approaching he says to just ignore it.. Again, any normal man would first take their own assessment, but even after she reports a guy approaching he says "just ignore it". What a lame boy.....
Loads of videos about zodiac but this is one of the best I've come across very informative and well put together, never come across your channel before liked and subscribed 👍
Thanks so much! Glad you enjoyed it :)
Dave McGowan's "Programmed to Kill" must be read to understand
yeah, okay.
As a movie - it was pretty well done, very well cast, all that. I was very surprised that it wasn't as well known on the East Coast.
I have always wondered if the Zodiac ever saw Brian Hartnell again,maybe he walked up to him and said Hello
No..I dont think so..
Zodiac didnt care ,Hartnell never saw him ,Zodiac didnt have a need to do such things..
He never even called his victims survicors to scare them..
It wasnt his thing..
I wonder if it's possible that the Zodiac could be James DeAngelo (the Golden State Killer) who was caught years after his crimes. Perhaps he didn't quit, he just moved and changed his modus operandi?
Well done my only issue is that you like most investigators are only looking into finding one perpetrator. Thats an assumption, that in this case in particular, that needs to be looked at again. Also its a good idea to look at the police and motives they would have to let us think its only one master criminal and not several different people all made to appear as one perpetrator.
This was outstanding! Very nice job 👍
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Did you use AI to upscale the audio?! The old news footage sounds amazing!
Ran through a AI vocal isolator to remove background noise and then tried to clean it best I could so it wasn’t too tinny, nowhere near perfect but I’m still learning hehe
@@thatjasonhassett you’re doing better than some of the people I’ve worked with in television, audio mixing. Granted, they didn’t have such robust AI options, but I am seriously impressed. I actually thought you had hired voice actors to read news quotes; that’s how good some of them sounded.
Hey man where can we find the sources you used?